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That is a cool page, it is interesting to see how the Yahoo! homepage has evolved from the one you show until what it is today, I was curious(??) and went to The Archive of course, between months there is not much difference, but what about between each year!

The sad thing, is that the archive only have yahoo! pages from 1996...

Man, 1995... I still remember being awed by the way that places like yahoo.com and hotwired.com looked in Netscape (was 2.0 even out yet? I forget, heh), compared to what I was used to before that (stuff like pine or gopher running on green-screen terms). I was 16 at the time, in college a couple of years early, and looking back (20/20 hindsight and all that), I wish I'd taken the hint on my early fascination and gone into programming/web-related studies and jobs then instead of chemistry... I guess I felt obligated to pursue a "real job" like chemistry. Here, ten years later, I'm a programmer and chemistry is just sort of my side hobby. I wonder sometimes what my life would have been like had I gotten into CS and gone into the IT workforce by '97-'98 instead of picking it up as hobby later and entering the IT workforce right before the bust.

Anyway, for some good nostalgia, here you go:
Archive of old versions of Netscape back to 1.1 days on multiple platforms
Wayback machine link for Yahoo! front page, late 1996 (hotwired.com excludes wayback, darn it... i recall it being visually louder than a hawaiian shirt on fire. the current wired.com is actually subdued compared to what I recall it being)

For readers who haven't seen "Duck and Cover", check it out at http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?colle ction=prelinger&collectionid=19069. Brought to you by the miracle of the Internet!

Simulated Partial Specialization for non-compliant C++ compilers. Allows a user to obtain many of the benefits of partial specialization of C++ templates without direct compiler support.

Python action plug-in for Adobe Photoshop. Allows a user to write Photoshop action plug-ins using Python. Has Python interfaces to all the actions APIs.

Python plug-in for Adobe Illustrator. An Illustrator plug-in adapter that allows users to access the C level API from Python

Python plug-in for Adobe After Effects. An After Effects plug-in that allows users to access the C level API from Python.

Python module for Perforce SCM. A C coded Python module that provides access to all the calls in the Perforce source code management system SDK.

-Don

Simulated Partial Specialization for non-compliant C++ compilers. Allows a user to obtain many of the benefits of partial specialization of C++ templates without direct compiler support.

Python action plug-in for Adobe Photoshop. Allows a user to write Photoshop action plug-ins using Python. Has Python interfaces to all the actions APIs.

Python plug-in for Adobe Illustrator. An Illustrator plug-in adapter that allows users to access the C level API from Python

Python plug-in for Adobe After Effects. An After Effects plug-in that allows users to access the C level API from Python.

Python module for Perforce SCM. A C coded Python module that provides access to all the calls in the Perforce source code management system SDK.

-Don

Simulated Partial Specialization for non-compliant C++ compilers. Allows a user to obtain many of the benefits of partial specialization of C++ templates without direct compiler support.

Python action plug-in for Adobe Photoshop. Allows a user to write Photoshop action plug-ins using Python. Has Python interfaces to all the actions APIs.

Python plug-in for Adobe Illustrator. An Illustrator plug-in adapter that allows users to access the C level API from Python

Python plug-in for Adobe After Effects. An After Effects plug-in that allows users to access the C level API from Python.

Python module for Perforce SCM. A C coded Python module that provides access to all the calls in the Perforce source code management system SDK.

-Don

Simulated Partial Specialization for non-compliant C++ compilers. Allows a user to obtain many of the benefits of partial specialization of C++ templates without direct compiler support.

Python action plug-in for Adobe Photoshop. Allows a user to write Photoshop action plug-ins using Python. Has Python interfaces to all the actions APIs.

Python plug-in for Adobe Illustrator. An Illustrator plug-in adapter that allows users to access the C level API from Python

Python plug-in for Adobe After Effects. An After Effects plug-in that allows users to access the C level API from Python.

Python module for Perforce SCM. A C coded Python module that provides access to all the calls in the Perforce source code management system SDK.

-Don

Simulated Partial Specialization for non-compliant C++ compilers. Allows a user to obtain many of the benefits of partial specialization of C++ templates without direct compiler support.

Python action plug-in for Adobe Photoshop. Allows a user to write Photoshop action plug-ins using Python. Has Python interfaces to all the actions APIs.

Python plug-in for Adobe Illustrator. An Illustrator plug-in adapter that allows users to access the C level API from Python

Python plug-in for Adobe After Effects. An After Effects plug-in that allows users to access the C level API from Python.

Python module for Perforce SCM. A C coded Python module that provides access to all the calls in the Perforce source code management system SDK.

-Don

Simulated Partial Specialization for non-compliant C++ compilers. Allows a user to obtain many of the benefits of partial specialization of C++ templates without direct compiler support.

Python action plug-in for Adobe Photoshop. Allows a user to write Photoshop action plug-ins using Python. Has Python interfaces to all the actions APIs.

Python plug-in for Adobe Illustrator. An Illustrator plug-in adapter that allows users to access the C level API from Python

Python plug-in for Adobe After Effects. An After Effects plug-in that allows users to access the C level API from Python.

Python module for Perforce SCM. A C coded Python module that provides access to all the calls in the Perforce source code management system SDK.

-Don

He didn't have flash until the 10th or so of this month. It was pure html and sliced images. I don't know why he got it converted to flash, I really just... don't.

It's been html the whole time it's been up, since 2001 or whenever. It's gone through quite a few major redesigns, originally as "jet pack industries" it was an image map of a factory and the stones out front had the words + links. before the tour it was just a front page of the album cover along with tour locations. At one time, they used a design from OSWD. Now, for some unknown reason, it's flash.

Feel free to check The Archive. According to that, the relaunch happened after Feb 13.

Disclaimer: I'm not defending flash, it sucks. I'm defending xomc for resisting flash for so long.

He didn't have flash until the 10th or so of this month. It was pure html and sliced images. I don't know why he got it converted to flash, I really just... don't.

It's been html the whole time it's been up, since 2001 or whenever. It's gone through quite a few major redesigns, originally as "jet pack industries" it was an image map of a factory and the stones out front had the words + links. before the tour it was just a front page of the album cover along with tour locations. At one time, they used a design from OSWD. Now, for some unknown reason, it's flash.

Feel free to check The Archive. According to that, the relaunch happened after Feb 13.

Disclaimer: I'm not defending flash, it sucks. I'm defending xomc for resisting flash for so long.

TELEPHONE! YIP YIP YIP YIP YIP! UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH!! YIP YIP YIP YIP! BUURRRRRRING! YIP YIP YIP! TELEPHONE! UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH! BURRRRRING!! UH HUH UH HUH UH HUH! TELEPHONE! YIP YIP YIP YIP YIP!!

Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted! Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING. Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted! Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING. Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted! Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

(Is it my fault they actually did yell?)

And Google Groups is always a lot of fun.. you can see Jeff Bezos asking some questions about marketing Amazon here, and even searching for developers here

I know somewhere the very first attempt at a bookstore by Jeff Bezos is still archived, but I can't remember where..

And Google Groups is always a lot of fun.. you can see Jeff Bezos asking some questions about marketing Amazon here, and even searching for developers here

I know somewhere the very first attempt at a bookstore by Jeff Bezos is still archived, but I can't remember where..

Oh come on. Yahoo didn't copy anything. Advanced users of yahoo were using search.yahoo.com all the time and it was simply like that.

Also http://web.archive.org/web/19961017235908/http://w ww2.yahoo.com/ . So, Google copied Yahoo's clean interface?

You guys may hate all the information on front page but there are people already using it. Thats why Yahoo is still nr1 destination on web.

Have fun with ex NSA founded Google which harvests your private mail text to show you relevant ads. Wonder what would you geeks do if any other company did it.

Have fun censoring me too, mods.

Found some more information and thought I'd post it. archive.org has a page where you can see all the spidered revisions of the Apache FAQ (for as long as it was at the URL www.apache.org/docs/FAQ.html, at least).

The October 28, 1996 archive entry (the earliest that archive.org has) has this explanation of the name:

Why the name "Apache" ?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

Then, the May 6, 1999 snapshot captured this version:

Why the name "Apache"?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

For many developers it is also a reverent connotation to the Native American Indian tribe of Apache, well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and inexhaustible endurance. Online information about the Apache Nation is tough to locate; we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, Infoseek, or AllTheWeb.

In addition, http://www.indian.org/ and http://www.nativeweb.com/ are two excellent resources for Native American information.

Then, in the October 4, 2004 snapshot, we see that the last paragraph (with the "excellent resources") has been removed.

Then finally, in the December 15, 2002 snapshot, we see that it's been changed to make "A PAtCHy server" into an "incorrect" name.

Why the name "Apache"? The name 'Apache' was chosen from respect for the Native American Indian tribe of Apache (Indé), well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and their inexhaustible endurance. For more information on the Apache Nation, we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, or AllTheWeb.

Secondarily, and more popularly (though incorrectly) accepted, it's a considered cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

So basically, it wasn't until just over 2 years ago that "A PAtCHy server" was called incorrect by the FAQ. And Apache is, of course, nearing 10 years old, so for over 75% of its lifetime, "A PAtCHy server" has been the official explanation of the name given in the FAQ.

So, I'm confused how the current FAQ can even endeavor to call it "incorrect". At the least they should say "no longer correct" or something.

Found some more information and thought I'd post it. archive.org has a page where you can see all the spidered revisions of the Apache FAQ (for as long as it was at the URL www.apache.org/docs/FAQ.html, at least).

The October 28, 1996 archive entry (the earliest that archive.org has) has this explanation of the name:

Why the name "Apache" ?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

Then, the May 6, 1999 snapshot captured this version:

Why the name "Apache"?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

For many developers it is also a reverent connotation to the Native American Indian tribe of Apache, well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and inexhaustible endurance. Online information about the Apache Nation is tough to locate; we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, Infoseek, or AllTheWeb.

In addition, http://www.indian.org/ and http://www.nativeweb.com/ are two excellent resources for Native American information.

Then, in the October 4, 2004 snapshot, we see that the last paragraph (with the "excellent resources") has been removed.

Then finally, in the December 15, 2002 snapshot, we see that it's been changed to make "A PAtCHy server" into an "incorrect" name.

Why the name "Apache"? The name 'Apache' was chosen from respect for the Native American Indian tribe of Apache (Indé), well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and their inexhaustible endurance. For more information on the Apache Nation, we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, or AllTheWeb.

Secondarily, and more popularly (though incorrectly) accepted, it's a considered cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

So basically, it wasn't until just over 2 years ago that "A PAtCHy server" was called incorrect by the FAQ. And Apache is, of course, nearing 10 years old, so for over 75% of its lifetime, "A PAtCHy server" has been the official explanation of the name given in the FAQ.

So, I'm confused how the current FAQ can even endeavor to call it "incorrect". At the least they should say "no longer correct" or something.

Found some more information and thought I'd post it. archive.org has a page where you can see all the spidered revisions of the Apache FAQ (for as long as it was at the URL www.apache.org/docs/FAQ.html, at least).

The October 28, 1996 archive entry (the earliest that archive.org has) has this explanation of the name:

Why the name "Apache" ?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

Then, the May 6, 1999 snapshot captured this version:

Why the name "Apache"?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

For many developers it is also a reverent connotation to the Native American Indian tribe of Apache, well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and inexhaustible endurance. Online information about the Apache Nation is tough to locate; we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, Infoseek, or AllTheWeb.

In addition, http://www.indian.org/ and http://www.nativeweb.com/ are two excellent resources for Native American information.

Then, in the October 4, 2004 snapshot, we see that the last paragraph (with the "excellent resources") has been removed.

Then finally, in the December 15, 2002 snapshot, we see that it's been changed to make "A PAtCHy server" into an "incorrect" name.

Why the name "Apache"? The name 'Apache' was chosen from respect for the Native American Indian tribe of Apache (Indé), well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and their inexhaustible endurance. For more information on the Apache Nation, we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, or AllTheWeb.

Secondarily, and more popularly (though incorrectly) accepted, it's a considered cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

So basically, it wasn't until just over 2 years ago that "A PAtCHy server" was called incorrect by the FAQ. And Apache is, of course, nearing 10 years old, so for over 75% of its lifetime, "A PAtCHy server" has been the official explanation of the name given in the FAQ.

So, I'm confused how the current FAQ can even endeavor to call it "incorrect". At the least they should say "no longer correct" or something.

Found some more information and thought I'd post it. archive.org has a page where you can see all the spidered revisions of the Apache FAQ (for as long as it was at the URL www.apache.org/docs/FAQ.html, at least).

The October 28, 1996 archive entry (the earliest that archive.org has) has this explanation of the name:

Why the name "Apache" ?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

Then, the May 6, 1999 snapshot captured this version:

Why the name "Apache"?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

For many developers it is also a reverent connotation to the Native American Indian tribe of Apache, well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and inexhaustible endurance. Online information about the Apache Nation is tough to locate; we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, Infoseek, or AllTheWeb.

In addition, http://www.indian.org/ and http://www.nativeweb.com/ are two excellent resources for Native American information.

Then, in the October 4, 2004 snapshot, we see that the last paragraph (with the "excellent resources") has been removed.

Then finally, in the December 15, 2002 snapshot, we see that it's been changed to make "A PAtCHy server" into an "incorrect" name.

Why the name "Apache"? The name 'Apache' was chosen from respect for the Native American Indian tribe of Apache (Indé), well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and their inexhaustible endurance. For more information on the Apache Nation, we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, or AllTheWeb.

Secondarily, and more popularly (though incorrectly) accepted, it's a considered cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

So basically, it wasn't until just over 2 years ago that "A PAtCHy server" was called incorrect by the FAQ. And Apache is, of course, nearing 10 years old, so for over 75% of its lifetime, "A PAtCHy server" has been the official explanation of the name given in the FAQ.

So, I'm confused how the current FAQ can even endeavor to call it "incorrect". At the least they should say "no longer correct" or something.

Found some more information and thought I'd post it. archive.org has a page where you can see all the spidered revisions of the Apache FAQ (for as long as it was at the URL www.apache.org/docs/FAQ.html, at least).

The October 28, 1996 archive entry (the earliest that archive.org has) has this explanation of the name:

Why the name "Apache" ?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

Then, the May 6, 1999 snapshot captured this version:

Why the name "Apache"?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

For many developers it is also a reverent connotation to the Native American Indian tribe of Apache, well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and inexhaustible endurance. Online information about the Apache Nation is tough to locate; we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, Infoseek, or AllTheWeb.

In addition, http://www.indian.org/ and http://www.nativeweb.com/ are two excellent resources for Native American information.

Then, in the October 4, 2004 snapshot, we see that the last paragraph (with the "excellent resources") has been removed.

Then finally, in the December 15, 2002 snapshot, we see that it's been changed to make "A PAtCHy server" into an "incorrect" name.

Why the name "Apache"? The name 'Apache' was chosen from respect for the Native American Indian tribe of Apache (Indé), well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and their inexhaustible endurance. For more information on the Apache Nation, we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, or AllTheWeb.

Secondarily, and more popularly (though incorrectly) accepted, it's a considered cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

So basically, it wasn't until just over 2 years ago that "A PAtCHy server" was called incorrect by the FAQ. And Apache is, of course, nearing 10 years old, so for over 75% of its lifetime, "A PAtCHy server" has been the official explanation of the name given in the FAQ.

So, I'm confused how the current FAQ can even endeavor to call it "incorrect". At the least they should say "no longer correct" or something.

Why does everyone seem to want to perpetuate this myth? [ meaning the myth that 'Apache is "A PAtCHy server"'. ] It's not true.

Ah, but it IS true. Or at least it was true at the time. If you don't believe me, take a look at the archive.org archives of the www.apache.org FAQ as of October 28, 1996, where it clearly says:

4. Why the name "Apache" ?

A cute name which stuck. Apache is "A PAtCHy server". It was based on some existing code and a series of "patch files".

This is kind of an interesting development. I can see four possible explanations:

1. It could mean that the apache.org people are misinformed. They may just not know their history. I don't know how many of the original people are still involved; maybe it's a whole different set of people.
2. It could mean that the apache.org people were wrong in the past, i.e. this page as posted on October 28, 1996 was, though it was the FAQ on their own web page, not the correct description of how the name came about.
3. It could mean that the official meaning behind the name has simply been changed. This has actually happened before. For instance, "gcc" used to stand for "GNU C Compiler", but now because the compiler suite supports so many languages, the name has been changed so that "gcc" now officially stands for "GNU Compiler Collection".
4. Finally, it could mean that the apache.org people are being historical revisionists for whatever reason. I don't know for sure that this is the case, but I can't rule it out either, so I thought I'd include it.

I have to say, at the very least, the current FAQ entry is so misleading that it's bordering on deceptive. If people who believe it stands for "A PAtCHy server" believe so incorrectly, the current FAQ ought to point out that the reason they believe that is that a previous version of the very same FAQ told them so!

He'll be missed.

Back in the days of Winamp 2.91 there was a bug that meant when Winamp started on shuffle it would always play the first track. I think the behaviour of shuffle was also tweaked by the legendary Ryan Geess to not repeat a track until 50% of the other songs had been played. This may well have had statistical side effects.

contact them, sounds up their alley. Internet Archive

I didn't see it on the tv...because....I don't have a TV ..in addition..

Reminded me of this.

And it (the song) used to have a great website.

Thanks for the link about lotteries. Has I understood what they were doing it would fit the " If it is a sweepstakes, winners are selected in a random drawing from all eligible entries received." Exact details are now unavailable.

Did we already try this? http://web.archive.org/web/20010223211530/http://w ww.ogsproject.org/ in 2001! It even made it onto /. http://slashdot.org/articles/01/02/13/1854219.shtm l. Did it go anywhere? no!

Why not look at something that is useful outside of groupware like building on top of syncML or using xmlrpc/soap or something that is designed for real time data exhange. Then you can hook other applications into your groupware too, not simply share between a handful of groupware platforms. DAV+[i|v]Ca[l|rd] looks nice and suggests supporting existing open standards, but it isn't a real solution.

I don't have all the answers but, here goes for a list of the problems I see with with GroupDAV:

* DAV is designed for file storage
* [i|v]Ca[l|rd] is designed for import/export not sharing
* What else uses this "standard"
* Why go for something which is lowest common domininator?
* Shouldn't efficiency of the protocol, not the speed of a few apps implementing it be the major considration?

Side question - has any other groupware suites been invited to participate? Like "FOSS Champion" Novell's Groupwise or Open Souce Crusader IBM's subsiduary Lotus with Notes? What about any of these http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft &forum_id=0&group_id=0&atid=0&words=groupware&Sear ch=Search?

Come on we can do better than a half baked concept that has taken 4 years to go anywhere - technology moves on - and we should too!

User-agent: ia_archiver
Disallow: /

User-agent: ia_archiver
Disallow: /

The Slashdot blurb missed one of the significant upgrades: the battery life in both iPod mini is now a lot better. The original iPod mini only lasted about 8 hours (according to Apple), the new one supposedly lasts 18. And if that turns out to be exaggerated, even 15 hours would be a very good battery lifetime for that kind of device. I wonder how they've done that - the weight hasn't increased, so it's probably not simply a battery twice as big.

Beppe, As one of the inventors on that patent as well as the person heading up the standardization efforts for the CLI, I'd like to explain why I've never felt the two are in conflict. The ECMA process requires that all patents held by member companies that are essential for implementing its standards are available under "reasonable and non-discriminatory (RAND) terms" for the purpose of implementing those Standards. This is the normal condition used in all International Standards organizations, including both ECMA and ISO. But Microsoft (and our co-sponsors, Intel and Hewlett-Packard) went further and have agreed that our patents essential to implementing C# and CLI will be available on a "royalty-free and otherwise RAND" basis for this purpose. Furthermore, our release of the Rotor source code base with a specific license on its use gives wide use to our patents for a particular (non-commercial) purpose, and as we explicitly state we are open to additional licenses for other purposes.

There's always The Wayback Machine

A while ago I looked up what the original authors of BSD-on-the-386 ( 386bsd ) authors had been up to, I just searched again and found http://www.interprophet.com and http://www.telemuse.net ...

Their new gig was putting the TCP/IP stack into the silicon for performance, the Internet Archive version says they've been at it since 1989...

I wonder if Intel licensed their patents, or if this is similar stuff...

i think it's pretty obvious mame.net has been using it for years, the logo shows up in this archive http://web.archive.org/web/20000301045012/www.mame .net/

Don't know if it counts... but I had a simple search history feature on my search engine back in Nov of 2003. Before A9 came out. The history was stored in a cookie on the users computer. The archive shows where the history was shown. http://web.archive.org/web/20031119184600/http://d hund.com/

Allready happens, its called the The Way Back Machine

As much as I actually did think the site was a fake ( wishful thinking ) after being told it was, I have to agree with fm6 that you've made a very weak argument here.

"A very weak argument".. Am I the only one *not* blind here?
For christ's sake, have a decent look at the two pictures before talking (one and two). The *only* difference between them is a manipulation of the eyes (which don't belong to the same person, it's quite evident) and of the colors. *Everything else* is exactly the same: look at the mouth, the nose, the hair, the tie. The pics are based on the same head shot.

I stopped answering to that other guy because I came to the conclusion that he was simply trolling. Now I don't know what to think.. is it a troll festival, or is there an epidemy of impaired eyesight?..

The manipulation *proves*, exhaustively, that the site's a fake. A brilliant satire, if you ask me - since sadly there are too many religious nuts asserting such things for real - but still a fake (luckily).

Here's a link to the archive.org snapshot

So he's used a domain which he's owned for ages to sell games and make some money. Big deal. The logo's different and couldn't be confused in a hundred years. If Game Group wanted it so bad theyshould have offered him a reasonable amount, instead the offers seem pretty pathetic - less than a year of game.co.uk's profit!

TBH, the 1,000,000 figure suggested to Game group is probably a bit low, given 60,000 annual profit and taking into account how much further profit a big outfit like Game Group would make on the same unit sales with their massive margins. They'd be looking at well over 100 grand. If a company's values at 10x annual profit, that's straight past a million.

Next they'll be suing anyone selling games that have the word game anywhere in there name - gamestation jumps to mind, but they're woned by blockbuster now. I doubt Game Group would have the bottle to fight against another heavyweight... :)

I personally hope downloads become more of a broadcast medium. Sure, throw some commercials in that 320x240 video! I'll watch them to watch decent News/Information/Entertainment. If I could subscribe to the Daily Show and scrap cable, I would. Even for like $10-$20 a month. I grab legal stuff from some places like Archive.org and play it on my PDA. There's some good content online both streaming and to download, but the models for getting to it (subscribe al la iFilm/Real, finesse google syntax, pray) suck when compared to downloading a file that I can convert into any format for any player I wish from the pirate channels. This, like other entertainment IP problems, comes down to convenience for a lot of folks. Listen up Networks!

That's how it looks now.
I had a quick look at the archived site and it looks like it was a perfectly legitimate online store.

Nice thought, but the Google cache DOESN'T INCLUDE IMAGES. If you see any, they're from the original site, so (for an article like this, where the picture is vital) you'd save time just waiting for the original page to load. (This rant provoked by the idiots modding it "informative", no disrespect meant to the well-intentioned OP.)

Mirrordot however does usually get both the images and text; if the page isn't brand new, try the Wayback Machine.

The current version of the OSI FAQ avoids saying that specifically, but it is implied: http://opensource.org/advocacy/faq.php

The old version claimed that "Open Source" was a trademark, but they had to drop it: http://web.archive.org/web/19981201223102/www.open source.org/faq.html

The MD5 crack team....

http://www.md5crk.com/ (wayback archive)

Google Groups claims to have 1 billion articles. At about 3 KB per article, that's 3 TB. Compress at 30:1 (although I think that's a bit too high) and you're at 100 GB. So, less than 25 DVD-Rs.

The problem is getting the old data.

The Internet Archive has some Usenet data, but they never accept proposals when I visit that page.

Google Groups claims to have 1 billion articles. At about 3 KB per article, that's 3 TB. Compress at 30:1 (although I think that's a bit too high) and you're at 100 GB. So, less than 25 DVD-Rs.

The problem is getting the old data.

The Internet Archive has some Usenet data, but they never accept proposals when I visit that page.

It looks like Opera added the SDI (tabs) in v6.0, around the beginning of 2002:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020203124042/www.oper a.com/windows/new/

NetCaptor had them in 1999:
http://web.archive.org/web/19991012033213/http://n etcaptor.com/
7/30/1999: "NetCaptor turns the browser world upside down. Unlike other browsers which only view one site at a time or crowd multiple windows together, NetCaptor opens sites on separate browser tabs."

It looks like Opera added the SDI (tabs) in v6.0, around the beginning of 2002:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020203124042/www.oper a.com/windows/new/

NetCaptor had them in 1999:
http://web.archive.org/web/19991012033213/http://n etcaptor.com/
7/30/1999: "NetCaptor turns the browser world upside down. Unlike other browsers which only view one site at a time or crowd multiple windows together, NetCaptor opens sites on separate browser tabs."

The core of the .NET Framework, and what has been patented by Microsoft falls under the ECMA/ISO submission. Jim Miller at Microsoft has made a statement on the patents covering ISO/ECMA, (he is one of the inventors listed in the patent): here.

Basically a grant is given to anyone who want to implement those components for free and for any purpose.

If you want to accept such grants without a signed document saying that you are allowed, for all the life of the patents, to use such patents without any kind of compensation, in money, cross licensing, no agression treaties or such other conditions, then it's up to you. Saying the risk is not there is not right, until the patent holders provide such documents.

Later in that question they talk about ASP.NET (non ECMA) and other things, which are also patented, but they'll try to avoid the patented methods. The ECMA parts are still patented and required for MONO, and all they can show is an afirmation in a mail list, that says "royalty free and otherwise RAND". RAND can be .25 cents per program copy.

C# and the CLI are both ECMA and ISO standards. As such, any patents have to be licenced under reasonable and non-discriminatory (RAND) terms.
In this case though, microsoft etc. have gone further and said that they will be made available royalty free in addition.

more info here