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In all fairness....
The Milonic DHTML Menu was totally free a little while ago.
For them to change the licensing terms retroactively ( "EVERY copy of our JavaScript menu needs to be licensed" - are they really insiting that older copies that were downloaded with it was advertised as free now be paid for and/or registered?) seems very shady to me. -
Re:Here's a working "Ancient Unix" link....The offer may have been online between 1999 and 2002!
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sco.com/o
f fers/ancient_unix.htmlStephen
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SILVER BULLET!! SCO denies ownership!!
Okay, the license text is available at The Archive, and it includes the following text (section 2.1, paragraph a:)
"SCO claims no ownership interest in any portion of such
a modification or DERIVED BINARY PRODUCT that is not part of a
SOURCE CODE PRODUCT."
So, their giving you FULL OWNERSHIP of any derivative binaries. That means that if you compile the source, you become an owner of that binary, not a licensee. As long as you are not trying to claim ownership of the source code. However, decompiling reproduces source to something you fully own. That means that you know own the decompiled source.
So SCO has completely given away the System V source in this manner. They can no longer claim full ownership because they offered this license.
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re: "Ancient UNIX"See: here, and here...
"...You can pay by VISA, MasterCard, or American Express credit card if you choose. Quote your credit card details in the cover note, if you are paying by this method, and authorize SCO to withdraw US$100 from your card..."
"... Wait for a response. SCO will try to respond within 3 weeks. If you have any questions about the license or its status, contact..."
Pay one hundred bucks and wait three weeks...
...such a deal.t_t_b
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re: "Ancient UNIX"See: here, and here...
"...You can pay by VISA, MasterCard, or American Express credit card if you choose. Quote your credit card details in the cover note, if you are paying by this method, and authorize SCO to withdraw US$100 from your card..."
"... Wait for a response. SCO will try to respond within 3 weeks. If you have any questions about the license or its status, contact..."
Pay one hundred bucks and wait three weeks...
...such a deal.t_t_b
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another link to SCO's old pages
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Software licenses for "ancient" versions of the UNIX operating system are now available! Licenses are available for the following versions: the Mini UNIX operating system; the UNIX V6 operating system; the PWB UNIX operating system; and the UNIX V7 operating system, which also covers Editions 1-5, and the 32V.
Follow these instructions to obtain a source code license for "ancient" versions of UNIX.
These licenses permit hobbyists and enthusiasts to have access to the source code of these historic releases, for personal and non-commercial use, and to share experiences and code updates with other authorized individuals having corresponding licenses. SCO has received numerous favorable responses from UNIX enthusiasts around the world, including messages such as, "Future computer historians will greatly appreciate what you have achieved!" and "I've wanted access to this material for nearly 20 years! Well done!"
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another link to SCO's old pages
quote:
Software licenses for "ancient" versions of the UNIX operating system are now available! Licenses are available for the following versions: the Mini UNIX operating system; the UNIX V6 operating system; the PWB UNIX operating system; and the UNIX V7 operating system, which also covers Editions 1-5, and the 32V.
Follow these instructions to obtain a source code license for "ancient" versions of UNIX.
These licenses permit hobbyists and enthusiasts to have access to the source code of these historic releases, for personal and non-commercial use, and to share experiences and code updates with other authorized individuals having corresponding licenses. SCO has received numerous favorable responses from UNIX enthusiasts around the world, including messages such as, "Future computer historians will greatly appreciate what you have achieved!" and "I've wanted access to this material for nearly 20 years! Well done!"
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Re:Here's a working "Ancient Unix" link....
The best part of the Wayback machine is that it captured the FAQ
From the FAQ:
Q: What can I do with this free license and media kit?
A: You can use it for learning about UNIX® systems, developing software that you do not sell, personal computing, or to run a personal web site. It can also be used for open source development and speculative development (Product development done before a product is shipped).You may not use it in your business or to support commercial or profit-making activities.
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SCO participated in Kernel development
And on this linke http://web.archive.org/web/20000816145931/www.sco
. com/linux/
you will find this... "A corporate sponsor of Linux International, SCO has always supported open standards, UNIX Systems and server-based technologies and solutions that benefit business computing. Our engineers have continuously participated in the Open Source movement, providing source code such as lxrun, and the OpenSAR kernel monitoring utility. We offer a free Open Source software supplement that includes many Open Source technologies as well as making our commercial UNIX products available free for non-commercial use. " -
Wayback Machine to the Rescue
You can find the archived pages for SCO's Ancient Unix Source Code here.
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archive.org I love you!!!
Courtesy of the wayback machine:
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Here's a working "Ancient Unix" link....
You did not count on the Way Back machine Herr Doktor SCO?
Here's a working link..
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Old News
" Plan 9 is now open source"
I think this is old news. Press realease dates from June/2000 . Slashdot also has a story about it
Hey, but thanks to CmdrTaco its currently new news again according to Google. . You never know when dups come to hunt you...
In related news, micro$oft has just released Windows 2000 Server
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Cryogenic Barbeque
Add that to the Liquid Oxygen Grill and you've got yourself one cool party. Main course, desert, and pyrotechnic entertainment all in one.
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On the newer edge...
Charlie Hunter - 8 string (3 bass, 5 guitar - plays the two simultaneously, and it isn't a gimmick). Natty Dread was the album (jazz cover of Marley's great) that got me into it. He has all sorts of albums in his name with quartets, trios, a duo, and a solo album. He has also played with Pound for Pound and TJKirk (who covered T=henolius Monk, J=ames Brown, and Roland Rahsaan Kirk). Norah Jones among many other guests was on his second to last album as well. Also plays with Garage-a-trois, but they haven't released an album yet.
Then there is Medeski Martin and Wood, a great great jazz trio famous for their live jams. Their tonic album is all acoustic, but usually Medeski play the organ. Worth checking out, but you may need to listen to them a couple times. Combustication was the album that got me into them.
Both of these bands are taper-friendly, and Charlie's stuff is available at Archive.org's audio archive, including Garage-a-trois. While you are there, might as well check out Steve Kimock and Garaj Mahal, a couple other killer jazz musicians.
My last recommendation: Jazz is Dead. Jimmy Herring, Alphonso Johnson, a couple other guys I can't remember their names off hand, do jazz covers of Grateful Dead songs. They have at least 2 albums out that are just insane.
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Re:NIMBY
I once read that you could put all 6 billion people in a an area the size of Jacksonville, FL's city limits, and each person would still have 9 sq ft (3ft x 3ft) to themselves.
Physically, you could probably put that many people into that small a space---but then this is forgetting all the land needed to grow food and provide other natural resources. (Unless the writer was discussing turning Jacksonville into the world's biggest morgue...)
I came across this article some time ago, on a /. thread examining overpopulation more in depth. The numbers given there are all engineering approximations, but it goes to show that the "all 6E9 people can fit into {Texas|Jacksonville|Footown}" arguments are really not well considered enough to be meaningful.
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Re:I fear that IBM will win.NetWare had that since forewer.
Not the same thing. For example there is a Linux VFS interface that allows you to remotely mount an SSH session as if it were a local drive. Impossible on Netware. There are many other examples of similar feats that are impossible on Netware, Windows or any other "modern" OS.
Is that in any way different from software that encrypts your whole HD (including the swap file) like PointSec or Safeguard?
Hell yes. Encrypted swap space secures your data at run time. Encrypted hard disks decrypt the data before allowing user space processes access. That's a very bad thing, and negates the purpose of encryption in the first place.
This was possible with IIS in 1997. Was this feature available in Apache back then?
This feature was available at least a year before, I'm not exactly sure when version 1.1 came out, but it was the fist version of Apache to support it.
Face it, honkey, Open Source software has for the last 30 years or so defined the leading edge of software development. It certainly has never been dominant or as slick as the commercial alternatives, but it has always led the way.
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My favoritesThe Portland Pattern Repository is a fascinating reference site, even if you're not a programmer. It's also of interest as the very first WikiWiki site.
Then again, it's sort of redundant to mention the PPR in this story, since it tends to turn up in Google searches.
Bartleby.com has all kinds of reference books available, and lots of other stuff online. Like all of the Harvard Classics.
I'm suprised I'm the first to mention Project Gutenberg. Maybe people don't think of it as a reference site, since mostly it's good for downloading whole public-domain texts. But various volunteers (including me) are now in the process of proofreading the famous Britannica 11th Edition for inclusion in the Gutenberg set. At the current rate, it'll be done in about a year. But perhaps with more volunteers...
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Re:Rules of thumb
Older versions had an Information Diffusion Rule of Thumb which preceeded the rule of thumb #2.
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Re:First post
I don't know why but I get the feeling it will probably go here.
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Re:Definition of Vaporware?There used to be an excellent description of vaporware and why it is so damaging on Caldera's (aka, SCO's) website. It was also very damning of Microsoft and it seemed to have dropped off the net in 2001 (draw your own conclusions on how related those two points are to each other and to the the recent "licensing" done by Microsoft of "SCO's" Unix rights). Thankfully, you can still grab a copy from the Wayback Machine. The write-up is still good even if Caldera isn't.
Note: the link points to an old copy of drdos.com. Dr-Dos was recently sold to some other company, but the vaporware paper was taken down long before that.
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Re:Going to concertsActually, they're not an exception at all. In fact, their recording policy pretty much sucks (it basically says you have to hand hold the mics and run directly into a recording device, no preamps or anything else). There are TONS of bands out right now that support audio recording, and most of them have nowhere near the popularity Pearl Jam has (I can only think of DMB and Phish that are more popular than PJ that allow recording).
Check out Etree.org, they are all about the legal trading of music. There are tons of bands on their site. There's also Archive.org, and FurtherNet. Just because you don't hear about bands like this all the time, doesn't mean that they're not out there.
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Now I can write that GIF recovery program
I've got GIFs from a defunct website that were sitting on a hard drive that developed errors throughout the drive because I put it on a bus that can't handle both master and slave drives. (I was attempting to make a backup and instead corrupted the original and backup drives.) Now I have a bunch of GIF files with errors in pairs of bytes randomly distributed in the file.
Now that the patent on GIF's compression is about to expire, I can work off of open source algorithms now legally distributable without royalties, attach my error fixing routines to the error detection code, progressively display the images, and fix the errors as they are encountered. And return my code to the public.
(I would have gone to the Internet Archive Wayback Machine to get error-free copies, but they don't have the images for the site available. I only managed to get what I could by browsing image directories, and AFAIK I have the only "surviving" copies.) -
Re:MTV
Archive.org has it mirrored on a super-fast server. I'm currently getting over 250K/sec on a cable modem.
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Re:cache - http://www.streamload.com/steve/gollum_
Even better, archive.org has it mirrored on a super-fast server. I'm currently getting over 250K/sec on a cable modem.
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Re:What's all this then?
Oh, Anonymous Coward, you must be joking?
;-)
The WDR is the organisation, who deleted a critical online article after pressure from the master of censorship.
For more infos about this see ÂEine Zensur findet doch stattÂ. -
Re:The ONLY Universal EBook Format!
But now that the PG dream of preserving and distributing the printed word through digital technology has stagnated into a dogmatic cult with the goal of preserving ASCII
Obviously spoken by someone who hasn't checked out PG in the last few years. When possible, PG keeps an ASCII copy, yes. But PG also has Japanese and Chinese texts with no ASCII copy. Even for mthose that PG offers an ASCII text (including for some reason French texts), many of them have Latin-1, UTF-8 and/or HTML copies in the same directory.
Encoding the PG texts in Unicode would require no extra effort on the part of the PG volunteers
No extra effort? I don't know what world you live in, but Unicode is not the simplest thing for everyone in the world to handle. Considering the almost non-existant technical savy of some of the volunteers at Distributed Proofreaders, using Unicode would be a serious pain to explain and would drive away many of our proofers.
please stop using linefeeds every 70 characters within paragraphs. WTF do you Project Gutenbergers imagine we read these texts on TRS-80s?
WTF do you imagine we read these texts on TRS-80s? I read mine in an xterm using less. IMO, there's no point in producing a plain text version without linefeeds like this; if you expect to wrap the text, you might as well go ahead and produce a simple HTML text. -
Hope this won't be another Gamecenter
Let's hope this doesn't turn out to be like another Gamecenter-Gamespot case.
Remember the days when we have a mature, well-written, not-on-the-big-gaming-companies-payrroll gaming site? I've felt at loss ever since Gamecenter was dropped in favour of more profitable Gamespot. Ohwell, let's hope this doesn't happen to GameFAQs too.
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Re:Dastar vs. FOX
Improper copyright notice or failure to renew. That's why there are a significant number of public domain films at the Internet Movie Archive.
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Re:Katy Johnson mirror
The Google cache doesn't last forever, you know. That's why I made this mirror of the disputed essay.
Better make sure that one gets into the Wayback Machine!
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Re:Real Purpose
Their homepage (which was completely insane - I hope somebody has a backup) used to be at http://www.korea-dpr.com
Set the Wayback Machine.
(For an overview go here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.korea-dpr. com.
Comedy GOLD!
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Re:Real Purpose
Their homepage (which was completely insane - I hope somebody has a backup) used to be at http://www.korea-dpr.com
Set the Wayback Machine.
(For an overview go here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.korea-dpr. com.
Comedy GOLD!
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Re:what is the world coming to?According to the Wayback machine, Ebay was indexed in 1997, but if you go to the page in question, it shows a copyright notice of 1995-1996. http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ebay.com
Assuming the other guy documented the idea one year before he filed the application, it's pretty close. Somebody else has got to have prior art before 95-94?
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free music
Also, all the etree usage (live show recordings of bands which permit it) is completely legal. BitTorrent's total bandwith usage would be quite substantial even if the etree distributions were all it was used for.
many people are not aware bands like Dave Matthews Band have an open taping policy. while not soundboard, many audience recordings are really close. many tapers spend $5000-6000 dollars in equipment and acheive pristine copies of the concerts. access to the shows has become even easier thanks to an amalgamation between archive.org and etree.org, we now have the etree.org audio archive.
these files are distributed in the lossless SHN format so each copy will sound the same no matter which generation of the disc you have.
with the addition of BitTorrent the trading of these concerts has become even easier. Many links can be found under the music of Smiler's BitTorrent site. But here are a few direct links; here and here.
Check out the etree newbie FAQ and the etree trader database for more info.
The best part is the RIAA can do nothing about it, imagine that legal free music!
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free music
Also, all the etree usage (live show recordings of bands which permit it) is completely legal. BitTorrent's total bandwith usage would be quite substantial even if the etree distributions were all it was used for.
many people are not aware bands like Dave Matthews Band have an open taping policy. while not soundboard, many audience recordings are really close. many tapers spend $5000-6000 dollars in equipment and acheive pristine copies of the concerts. access to the shows has become even easier thanks to an amalgamation between archive.org and etree.org, we now have the etree.org audio archive.
these files are distributed in the lossless SHN format so each copy will sound the same no matter which generation of the disc you have.
with the addition of BitTorrent the trading of these concerts has become even easier. Many links can be found under the music of Smiler's BitTorrent site. But here are a few direct links; here and here.
Check out the etree newbie FAQ and the etree trader database for more info.
The best part is the RIAA can do nothing about it, imagine that legal free music!
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It was done on the Amiga in ~1986
I've liberally coped from Mr. Hartford's archived website.
People Meter
Published by Aminetics
People Meter was a biofeedback device for the Amiga. It measured galvanic skin response via two metallic Velcro straps hooked up to a small hardware module which plugged into the joystick port. Included software allowed the user to monitor his stress level via analog meters, digital meters, changing the color of the user interface (MoodBench), and even play through a digitized video clip based on stress level. It was bundled with an arcade game called "Stress 'n Bake", loosely based on an "I Love Lucy" episode where a bakery goes haywire and assembly line workers struggle to keep up with the constant stream of wedding cakes. A particularly evil part of the game was that as your stress level went up, the game actually got harder to play. -
Re:Aw C'mon
I'm guessing there will soon be exemptions for archiving various things. For example, Brewster Kahle at archive.org is trying to get an exemption for archiving old software.
However, I think the laws surrounding the DMCA will start to spiral out of control because of exceptions like this. Probably wishful thinking though given that it involves lawyers and politicians. -
Re:Can we revoke their license under the GPL?IANAL but, If they claim ownership of Linux IP, which they released under the GPL (see caldera linux, way back machine) and they are claiming ownership of sources, that they themselves distributed under the GPL....
It seems to me, that the easiest thing to do, would be for the Linux community to come out and say "We don't believe you do own X and X" Buttt.... "Since you released linux, we will grant you GPL license over the code in question...." It would be a smack in the face of the real developers, (if the code in question really is unique) and would actually HELP their claims that they *OWN* that IP... but they would own a freely distributed GPL'd source... so... they would be screwed. -
Re:OOK!Uhuh, so we can't deep link to mozilla.org?
If bugzilla can't cope with Slashdot, maybe Bugzilla should get fixed with a simple caching mechanism, for example?
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Re:SCO Response Contradicts their own website!
It would be interesting to cruise the Wayback Machine to seem how the claims have changed over the years.
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Re:Not the intended use of broadbandBroadband wasn't really intended to be used for P2P networks in the first place. It was mostly advertised as a way to cut down on loading times for web pages and interacting with media-rich pages. Even for those media-rich pages, the user isn't constantly downloading at the maximum rate; it's sporadic, at best, and most sites don't provide download speeds that can max out a broadband connection.
From the Comcast website circa 1999:
Feel the rush of video, sound, and tons of information screaming in and out of your computer. Connect to the Internet with cable and feel your Web experience go from frustrating to fantastic. It's called Comcast @ Home and it will revolutionize the way you use the Internet forever!
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HAPS "myth"
I remember when my Dad was telling me about this company called SkyStation in 1997 which was going to do the same thing. I doubted it would be possible. They still haven't delivered.
Their current FAQ boasts, "When will the Sky Station system be available?
With flight testing commencing later this year, Stratospheric Telecommunications Service will commence with the first Sky Station platform deployment in 2005. Sky Station platforms will be implemented in accordance with user demand as expressed by responsible organizations in each country."
Enter the Wayback Machine for this same FAQ page:
1998 claims of launch in 2000
1999 claims of launch in 2002
2001 claims of launch in 2004
Stating that a test launch will occur "later this year" (hey, that makes it easier to update the page), and they're planning deployment in 2005. How the hell can they even know when they'll be deploying if after 7 years they still haven't done a test launch.
Let's not forget StratSat or the Japanese Airships for cell phone use. Comon', someone show me a non-artist rendored picture or active deployment with one of these. Until I see that, it's all vaporware left over from the dot-com sucker era. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just wondering about it being economically feasible and the unreliable in the atmosphere from ever-changing winds and weather conditions.
Here is that promised document from China talking about all these other blimp-type platforms (a sucker is born every minute):
http://www.bakom.ch/imperia/md/content/english/fun k/forschungundentwicklung/studien/HAPS.pdf -
HAPS "myth"
I remember when my Dad was telling me about this company called SkyStation in 1997 which was going to do the same thing. I doubted it would be possible. They still haven't delivered.
Their current FAQ boasts, "When will the Sky Station system be available?
With flight testing commencing later this year, Stratospheric Telecommunications Service will commence with the first Sky Station platform deployment in 2005. Sky Station platforms will be implemented in accordance with user demand as expressed by responsible organizations in each country."
Enter the Wayback Machine for this same FAQ page:
1998 claims of launch in 2000
1999 claims of launch in 2002
2001 claims of launch in 2004
Stating that a test launch will occur "later this year" (hey, that makes it easier to update the page), and they're planning deployment in 2005. How the hell can they even know when they'll be deploying if after 7 years they still haven't done a test launch.
Let's not forget StratSat or the Japanese Airships for cell phone use. Comon', someone show me a non-artist rendored picture or active deployment with one of these. Until I see that, it's all vaporware left over from the dot-com sucker era. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just wondering about it being economically feasible and the unreliable in the atmosphere from ever-changing winds and weather conditions.
Here is that promised document from China talking about all these other blimp-type platforms (a sucker is born every minute):
http://www.bakom.ch/imperia/md/content/english/fun k/forschungundentwicklung/studien/HAPS.pdf -
HAPS "myth"
I remember when my Dad was telling me about this company called SkyStation in 1997 which was going to do the same thing. I doubted it would be possible. They still haven't delivered.
Their current FAQ boasts, "When will the Sky Station system be available?
With flight testing commencing later this year, Stratospheric Telecommunications Service will commence with the first Sky Station platform deployment in 2005. Sky Station platforms will be implemented in accordance with user demand as expressed by responsible organizations in each country."
Enter the Wayback Machine for this same FAQ page:
1998 claims of launch in 2000
1999 claims of launch in 2002
2001 claims of launch in 2004
Stating that a test launch will occur "later this year" (hey, that makes it easier to update the page), and they're planning deployment in 2005. How the hell can they even know when they'll be deploying if after 7 years they still haven't done a test launch.
Let's not forget StratSat or the Japanese Airships for cell phone use. Comon', someone show me a non-artist rendored picture or active deployment with one of these. Until I see that, it's all vaporware left over from the dot-com sucker era. I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just wondering about it being economically feasible and the unreliable in the atmosphere from ever-changing winds and weather conditions.
Here is that promised document from China talking about all these other blimp-type platforms (a sucker is born every minute):
http://www.bakom.ch/imperia/md/content/english/fun k/forschungundentwicklung/studien/HAPS.pdf -
Re:Bad Idea
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Re:Bad Idea
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Re:old unix code
This the page you meant?
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Re:MP3 file format?
No stupid. Unless you got oodles of bandwidth and money you don't put audio in a lossless format on a site.
Oh really? What about the Internet Archive's Live Music Archive. Not to mention all of the volunteer ftp sites found from etree or even a site like this. -
Re:MP3 file format?
No stupid. Unless you got oodles of bandwidth and money you don't put audio in a lossless format on a site.
Oh really? What about the Internet Archive's Live Music Archive. Not to mention all of the volunteer ftp sites found from etree or even a site like this. -
It's already done !
Well, at least like this : Hollywood Produces BIG Budget Evangelion Film
(unfortunately, original page no longer exists, this link is from "Wayback Machine" )