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Re:It's "viruses"
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Re:Scott Meyers
This comment alone summarizes your knowledge of what [sic] means.
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Billions and Billions
How much is a billion?
If you are American, it is undoubtedly 1,000,000,000. This amount is known to traditionally minded British people as `a thousand million', and by some more adventurous ones as a 'milliard', though this word has not made as much headway in English as in some other European languages. A trillion is then 1,000,000,000,000, and so on.
If you are British, on the other hand, a billion may be 1,000,000,000,000 (a million million), following the older convention.
If you are neither British nor American, you can take your pick! (Both systems were invented by the French, but are called 'British' and 'American' for convenience.)
Once the business world and the financial press found themselves discussing `thousand millions' so much, the 'American' system simply became more convenient, despite a certain lack of logical tidiness. -
Re:how odd (that you still can't research)sixty more seconds later i found the oxford dictionary definition:
irregardless
adjective adverb informal regardless.
ORIGIN probably a blend of IRRESPECTIVE and REGARDLESS.
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Re:R-A-I-D?!?!Ask Oxford's take on it.
Mr. Edison, I was informed, had been up the two previous nights discovering 'a bug' in his phonograph - an expression for solving a difficulty, and implying that some imaginary insect has secreted itself inside and is causing all the trouble.
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dictionary definitioncurrently the definition of "spammer" returned by the Oxford dictionary is something like this:
spammer, noun, derivative of spamming, verb: to send irrelevant or inappropriate email messages indiscriminately to large numbers of users.
personally i think it should be this:spammers, n. pl. lying thieving pig-licking toilet blockages with feet.
i believe this form of words was first discovered by Dan of Dan's Data. he also used the phrase "scum-sucking uncle-rapers", which has a certain charm. -
Re:sheesh
I don't know what shit-kicking town you were raised in, but in my public school, Romeo and Juliet was required reading. It's not like Shakespear is the most quoted author or anything.
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Re:Depends on your experience
Wrong.
You might like to read this article from the Oxford Dictionaries people about learnt vs learned.
I am British and therefore tend to lean towards learnt rather than learned. But since you started a slanging match about use of language perhaps you'd like to correct "english" to "English".
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Bugs = 'Natural Disasters'
A dupe bug would bring the economics of such a system crashing down.
Interestingly, the article's authors came up with a solution to the problem of software bugs, though I don't think it was their intention:
- Farms/Forestry: Farms produce perishable food, wood, or textile items in predictable quantities that may vary with the weather. Farms may be damaged or destroyed by war, mismanagement or natural disasters.
Just imagine a "software bug" in the context of the original "bug": an insect that causes big trouble (think Biblically, as in plagues of locusts).
Someone hacks into the system and steals $5,000 of real-world l00t? Bad news for local farmers, a cloud of hungry grasshoppers devoured your fields yesterday. Estimated damages are g$1 million ($5,000 real-world).
Game designer conference... in Barbados? News flash: last night's thunderstorms spawned an F5 tornado that tore through the center of Avatarville. No PKs, but damage is estimated in the g$Millions.
[FBI | SEC | DEA] investigation? We're sorry, but a record-shattering earthquake destroyed all your possessions, the bank where your money was kept, and by the way, You Are Dead.
As for myself, if I wanted that level of uncontrollable risk, I'd play Real Life. -
Re:can't you tell by my ridiculous accent?
IANAL (...linguist)
But, a quick search on dictionary.com for the word 'mail' shows that there is some evidence for the word having its origins in Old French. Whether this applies for the postal usage (versus in the context of armour for instance) I don't know. Any actual linguists have any more info on this?
This article states that
"Some words inevitably crossed national borders - l'Académie française failed to impose the word courriel as an alternative to email or mail (the Frenchified spelling mél is sometimes used)."
I can understand why the French don't like the English words creeping into their language (e.g. le parking, le weekend), but these words aren't replacing French words, they are used for new concepts. If the French want to get a chance to use French words for new things, then perhaps they should invent some new things of their own.
P.S.
Ah say, ah say, ah say - mah dog 'az no nose!
'Ow does he smell?
'e smells of garlic, and 'e eats onions and ah let 'im shit in ze street!
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compared to sayEnglish is cool. We cram every word we like into our lexicon. According to this site, English is composed of the following:
Latin, including modern scientific and technical Latin: 28.24%
French, including Old French and early Anglo-French: 28.3%
Old and Middle English, Old Norse, and Dutch: 25%
Greek: 5.32%
No etymology given: 4.03%
Derived from proper names: 3.28%
All other languages contributed less than 1%
I tried to find a word count for French vs. English lexicons, but unfortunately after about 15 googlings I came to the concensus that you can't count how big a lexicon is, only the number of words in a dictionary. I remember a high school teacher telling me that there are about 100,000 words in the French lexicon, though. English is a magnitude larger, and impossible to give a straight answer- do you include technical words? medical words? colloquial words? -
Apostrophe elitism
Lately I've been seeing an increase in apostrophe usage pedants on slashdot. The thing is, I can't understand where they're coming from: in forming the plural of abbreviations it is perfectly acceptable to use the apostrophe. I get this from http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/abouts
p elling/pizza. (I admit that using an apostrophe to pluralize abbreviations that do not contain internal punctuation is not the preferred way to do it, but is still acceptable)
Now as for the use of an apostrophe in "Dell's" and "Mac's", that has a point. But please, let's keep our grammar pedantry in check; there's no need to whine about "G5's" or "TP's". After all, there are certainly enough posts that still confuse "you're" and "your" or "its" and "it's"; surely those provide much more fertile ground for grammar complaints. -
didn't I kick your ass on this subject already?Oh, boy. Not THIS again. This horse has been well and truly beaten already.
True that. Some people, no matter how much logic and evidence you throw at them, insist that the earth is flat, Elvis is alive and copyright infringment is a form of theft. The litmus test is, has there been a loss of property to some other individual? No loss of property, no theft.
the crime known as "copyright infringement" is a special class of the general activity known as "theft."
No. Just because something is a crime doesn't mean its theft. If I burn down your house, is that committing theft? After all, I have deprived you of your worldy possessions. But wait, its not theft because neither you nor I have possession of your property because it has been destroyed. That's why we call it arson, because it has vital charachteristics that make it a completely different crime than stealing. If I copy your research paper behind your back and pass it off as my own, thats called plagerism. If I bring a 20 dollar bill down to the copy shop and xerox a few for some extra cash, its not theft. Its forgery. It's highly illegal and I'll be scrwed if the Secret Service catches me, but just because something is illegal doesn't mean its theft. If you are an artist and I make copies of your music and give them to my friends without paying you, thats copyright infringment, because you still have possession of all of your property. Again, no loss of property, no theft.
take: to get into one's possession
Nice that you left out the relevant explanation of that definition:- 1 To get into one's possession by force, skill, or artifice, especially:
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a. To capture physically; seize: take an enemy fortress.
b. To seize with authority; confiscate.
If I capture, seize, or confiscate your property, I have control and possession of your property while you lose it. That is the point you cannot see. If I don't take, or remove your property there is no theft. There might be copyright infringment, forgery or plagerism, but there is no theft without a transfer of possession.
But if that's not good enough for you, perhapse you'd like a few more. While you're noting the complete absence of any copying of so called "intellectual property" from any of those, check out how many specifically say "taking and removing". Thats because theft is concrete. I've either stolen your car from your garage or I haven't. I've either removed some stereos after breaking into Radio Shack or I haven't. That doesn't apply to downloading a copy of Office XP without paying for it, because there is no guarantee that I would have bought it in the first place. And even if it was guaranteed, MS has only "lo -
didn't I kick your ass on this subject already?Oh, boy. Not THIS again. This horse has been well and truly beaten already.
True that. Some people, no matter how much logic and evidence you throw at them, insist that the earth is flat, Elvis is alive and copyright infringment is a form of theft. The litmus test is, has there been a loss of property to some other individual? No loss of property, no theft.
the crime known as "copyright infringement" is a special class of the general activity known as "theft."
No. Just because something is a crime doesn't mean its theft. If I burn down your house, is that committing theft? After all, I have deprived you of your worldy possessions. But wait, its not theft because neither you nor I have possession of your property because it has been destroyed. That's why we call it arson, because it has vital charachteristics that make it a completely different crime than stealing. If I copy your research paper behind your back and pass it off as my own, thats called plagerism. If I bring a 20 dollar bill down to the copy shop and xerox a few for some extra cash, its not theft. Its forgery. It's highly illegal and I'll be scrwed if the Secret Service catches me, but just because something is illegal doesn't mean its theft. If you are an artist and I make copies of your music and give them to my friends without paying you, thats copyright infringment, because you still have possession of all of your property. Again, no loss of property, no theft.
take: to get into one's possession
Nice that you left out the relevant explanation of that definition:- 1 To get into one's possession by force, skill, or artifice, especially:
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a. To capture physically; seize: take an enemy fortress.
b. To seize with authority; confiscate.
If I capture, seize, or confiscate your property, I have control and possession of your property while you lose it. That is the point you cannot see. If I don't take, or remove your property there is no theft. There might be copyright infringment, forgery or plagerism, but there is no theft without a transfer of possession.
But if that's not good enough for you, perhapse you'd like a few more. While you're noting the complete absence of any copying of so called "intellectual property" from any of those, check out how many specifically say "taking and removing". Thats because theft is concrete. I've either stolen your car from your garage or I haven't. I've either removed some stereos after breaking into Radio Shack or I haven't. That doesn't apply to downloading a copy of Office XP without paying for it, because there is no guarantee that I would have bought it in the first place. And even if it was guaranteed, MS has only "lo -
Re:top hits on google == language definition?
Call me a skeptic, but I think it takes longer than 42 days (and the limited audience of blogs) to coin the meaning of a new term.
Well, there's an interesting legend about the origin of the word "quiz"... -
"double edged sword"?
It doesn't mention the by-products of burning biodiesel, but I would think more sources of diesel-like fuel is one of the LAST things we need.
Environmental damage and pollution from livestock is a very serious problem and probably the main reason I'm "pescatarian".
But I'm far from convinced that this process of converting the waste into fuel and burning it like diesel isn't just an equal-but-different evil, or worse. A far better option would be to treat industrialized meat as the sister-evil to SUV's. AKA Ridiculous Consumption in the vast majority of cases. -
Re:THERE IS NO APOSTROPHE IN CPUs - Yes, there is
Are you anal because your head is up your ass? Learn the rules of grammar (see rule 2) before you stick your foot in your mouth.
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Re:"Sporting Event"
i[sic] wonder why you didnt[sic] had[sic] pick up the british dictionaire[sic]?
My guess is that the main reason the OP used it was that dictionary.com is easier to remember and to search. He could have made the point that the way a modern language is spoken where it originally evolved should not a priori define that language, which runs counter to what the English might want. However, in this case the two versions of English under discussion agree. One abbreviated version of the OED is on line, and from that, definition 2 of ball:"2 usually spherical object used in game,"does not require a 'ball' to be spherical, merely that it be used in a game. The non-spherical balls used the the games the US and Canada each call football fit this definition.
Also from the OED, the definition of footballagain is consistent with the games North Americans call football, given the above definition of ball: "1 large inflated usually leather ball. 2 team game played with this."
To what 900 year old English dictionary do you refer? The Oxford English Dictionary, which is the generally accepted UK dictionary, began to be compiled in 1857 and a complete edition was not published until 1928. There were previous British dictionaries, notably Samuel Johnson's 1755 dictionary, but I do not believe any exist which were written 900 years ago, and if they did, consulting them for modern definitions would be ridiculous.
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Re:"Sporting Event"
i[sic] wonder why you didnt[sic] had[sic] pick up the british dictionaire[sic]?
My guess is that the main reason the OP used it was that dictionary.com is easier to remember and to search. He could have made the point that the way a modern language is spoken where it originally evolved should not a priori define that language, which runs counter to what the English might want. However, in this case the two versions of English under discussion agree. One abbreviated version of the OED is on line, and from that, definition 2 of ball:"2 usually spherical object used in game,"does not require a 'ball' to be spherical, merely that it be used in a game. The non-spherical balls used the the games the US and Canada each call football fit this definition.
Also from the OED, the definition of footballagain is consistent with the games North Americans call football, given the above definition of ball: "1 large inflated usually leather ball. 2 team game played with this."
To what 900 year old English dictionary do you refer? The Oxford English Dictionary, which is the generally accepted UK dictionary, began to be compiled in 1857 and a complete edition was not published until 1928. There were previous British dictionaries, notably Samuel Johnson's 1755 dictionary, but I do not believe any exist which were written 900 years ago, and if they did, consulting them for modern definitions would be ridiculous.
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Re:Sounds cool and all...
According to the Oxford Dictionaries team, an apostrophe in this particular case is acceptable, although 1900s is preferable.
Also, 'c.' is the usual abbreviation of 'circa'.
So, in order of preference:
- c. 1900s
- circa 1900s
- c. 1900's
- circa 1900s
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Canceled PersonaSo, if Microsoft has canceled Persona, does that mean we can refer to it as Persona Non Grata ?
Ack! Stop with the rotten fruit already!
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Re:A thousand times NO!
>Though I have to wonder sometimes if he just used
>to make a lot of words up :-)
Methinks he invented quite a few. (e.g. critical, monumental, obscene, majestic)