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that's quite possibly the honest truth since neither that "war" nor "terrorism" has been defined to any degree.

For it is the doom of men that they forget. -- Merlin, Excalibur

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) In General.--That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

By their deeds you shall know them.

1996 Bin Laden's Fatwa - The following text is a fatwa, or declaration of war, by Osama bin Laden first published in Al Quds Al Arabi

1998 Bombing of US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya

2000 Photo: USS Cole - Video: 2000: USS Cole Attack in Yemen

2001 9-11

2002 Bali terror attack

2004 Madrid train attacks

2005 London 7/7 Terrorist Attacks

2009 Now classified as "workplace violence" - Nidal Hasan Admitted Jihadist Motive, Ft. Hood Victims’ Attorneys Say

2013 Boston Marathon Bombing

Note that this is only a snapshot of attacks, and doesn't include the many attacks that occurred in the Middle East (except the Cole). It also doesn't include the many plots disrupted by the security services, or cancelled by the terrorists planning them. It doesn't include the many arrests for terrorism related activity, but snapshot of that over a short period of time is below:

FBI’s Top Ten News Stories for the Week Ending January 27, 2012

Denver: Man Arrested for Providing Material Support to a Designated Foreign Terrorist Organization

Jamshid Muhtorov was arrested by members of the FBI’s Denver and Chicago Joint Terrorism Task Forces on a charge of providing and attempting to provide material support to the Islamic Jihad Union, a Pakistan-based designated foreign terrorist organization.

Baltimore: Man Pleads Guilty to Attempted Use of a Weapon of Mass Destruction in Plot to Attack Armed Forces Recruiting Center

U.S. citizen Antonio Martinez, aka Muhammad Hussain, pled guilty to attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against federal property in connection with a scheme to attack an armed forces recruiting station in Catonsville, Maryland.

Washington Field: Man Pleads Guilty to Shootings at Pentagon, Other Military Buildings

Yonathan Melaku, of Alexandria, Virginia, pled guilty to damaging property and to firearms violations involving five separate shootings at military installations in northern Virginia betwe

that's quite possibly the honest truth since neither that "war" nor "terrorism" has been defined to any degree.

For it is the doom of men that they forget. -- Merlin, Excalibur

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) In General.--That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

By their deeds you shall know them.

1996 Bin Laden's Fatwa - The following text is a fatwa, or declaration of war, by Osama bin Laden first published in Al Quds Al Arabi

1998 Bombing of US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya

2000 Photo: USS Cole - Video: 2000: USS Cole Attack in Yemen

2001 9-11

2002 Bali terror attack

2004 Madrid train attacks

2005 London 7/7 Terrorist Attacks

2009 Now classified as "workplace violence" - Nidal Hasan Admitted Jihadist Motive, Ft. Hood Victims’ Attorneys Say

2013 Boston Marathon Bombing

Note that this is only a snapshot of attacks, and doesn't include the many attacks that occurred in the Middle East (except the Cole). It also doesn't include the many plots disrupted by the security services, or cancelled by the terrorists planning them. It doesn't include the many arrests for terrorism related activity, but snapshot of that over a short period of time is below:

FBI’s Top Ten News Stories for the Week Ending January 27, 2012

Denver: Man Arrested for Providing Material Support to a Designated Foreign Terrorist Organization

Jamshid Muhtorov was arrested by members of the FBI’s Denver and Chicago Joint Terrorism Task Forces on a charge of providing and attempting to provide material support to the Islamic Jihad Union, a Pakistan-based designated foreign terrorist organization.

Baltimore: Man Pleads Guilty to Attempted Use of a Weapon of Mass Destruction in Plot to Attack Armed Forces Recruiting Center

U.S. citizen Antonio Martinez, aka Muhammad Hussain, pled guilty to attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against federal property in connection with a scheme to attack an armed forces recruiting station in Catonsville, Maryland.

Washington Field: Man Pleads Guilty to Shootings at Pentagon, Other Military Buildings

Yonathan Melaku, of Alexandria, Virginia, pled guilty to damaging property and to firearms violations involving five separate shootings at military installations in northern Virginia betwe

Great examples, I will add more ...

- The Eruv system, where on the Sabbath it is forbidden to carry stuff from one place to another unless it is an enclosed farm or something. So a wire is set up on utility posts to encircle the whole city, and therefore observant Jews can move stuff from one place to the other. This is implemented in several major cities in the USA.

- The seventh year farmland must be fallow rule (Shmita). Land owned by Jews in Israel is sold on paper to Palestinians using an intermediary lawyer, so it can be farmed and harvested that year, then at the end of the year, the ownership is transferred back to the original Jew.

- Jewish restaurants in Budapest serve patrons on Saturday, but you have to come a day earlier and pay in advance.

Yes, similar "juristic tricks" are in other religions. For example, some were developed centuries ago in Islam (called just that Hiyal: tricks, loopholes) to circumvent certain laws, and several authors have written against them condemning the practice.

That's not enough you have to own nothing capable of receiving tv signal

You don't even need a licence if you have a TV, as long as you don't watch it (you can even listen to the radio on it if you like).

Sure, because if you aren't allowed to depend on the users setting their local clock correctly you clearly will be allowed to assume their local timezone is correct...

And apart from not being able to use the local time-zone, check their supported browsers list, they need to make sure it works in IE 5.5, Firefox 2, Opera 9 and Safari 2. Testing alone is going to be quite some work. Especially when you want to be sure it works correctly when somebody watching during a daylight savings change etc. It might not be especially hard, it might not take a 100 days, but it is going to be a lot of work.

No you don't. You only need a license to watch or record broadcast TV live (or near live - a few seconds diff)
So:
live retransmitter sites - license required.
on-demand sites - NO license required.
iPlayer to watch something live - license required.
iPlayer to watch something broadcast yesterday - NO license required.

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_tv_progs/tvlicence

Yay - super interesting. Listening to the African stream thanks to you!

BBC African stream

Again, what is point of doing that on the bbc web site?

Reflecting historical corporate ID (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7271036.stm)

for general websites, none. But in the case of the BBC the clock had been used for years as part of the station ident between programmes and could easily be justified as reflecting the corporate brand. see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7271036.stm for more info.

The BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22768861

I wonder if that broadcast will include the attack on the US Liberty in which they killed 34 American Sailors and was covered up for MANY years

The attack wasn't covered up, it was front page news. The fact that you didn't know about it doesn't mean nobody else did.

USS Liberty attack tapes released

The NSA on Tuesday released audiotapes of Israeli pilots and ground control speaking in Hebrew, along with English transcripts.

The recordings were made by a nearby American surveillance aircraft in the immediate aftermath of the attack.

"For your info, it is apparently an Arab ship," says ground control.

"Roger," says the pilot.

"It is an Egyptian supply ship," says ground control.

"Roger," comes the response.

The NSA released the tapes and transcripts under the Freedom of Information Act in response to a request from Miami Judge Jay Cristol.

An author of a book on the attack, Cristol said the tapes show it was a tragic accident in a time of war -- that the Israelis mistook the ship for an Egyptian one.

"I don't think there's any question that anyone who reads these tapes would be absolutely convinced there was the fog of war out there," Cristol said.

Why did Israel attack USS Liberty?

It is a view with which historian Michael B Oren, a senior fellow at the Shalem Center, a Jerusalem academic research institute, concurs.

"Many thousands of documents related to the Liberty have been declassified and in none of these documents will you find a scintilla of evidence to suggest any of these conspiracy theories are true," he says.

"The Golan one is the easiest to disprove because of where the Liberty was, not off the coast of Israel, but Egypt. Its listening devices weren't that powerful that they could listen in on communications in Tel Aviv.
  "Moreover the Israelis were very upfront in telling the US that they planned to capture the Golan Heights and the Americans agreed to it.

"Regarding a massacre of Egyptian POWs, there's no evidence of that. And why would the Israelis try to cover up one atrocity by committing another?

He says the attack has remained a source of controversy because "it has all the ingredients of a good spy scandal. It involves espionage and it involves the Israelis, who are forever a focus of conspiracy theories.

"If I could prove the Liberty was attacked in a premeditated fashion, I would write it - it would be a great historical scoop - but the truth is far more mundane."

No. But it does equate to a double standard. A different standard is applied to Israel than to everyone else. What's worse is that the other Arab countries are treating their own people like shit.

Despite your flamebait moderation, you are essentially correct.

As far as a double standard against Israel, the UN is a great example of that.

From: Middle East Quarterly - Winter 2004
The Case for Israel

... The Case For Israel ... Dershowitz points out that a full 27 percent of the U.N.'s country-specific resolutions critical of a state have been directed against it. In contrast, no resolution in the history of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights has condemned Syria, China, Saudi Arabia, or Zimbabwe, all of which are self-evidently far worse violators of human rights. Israel, asserts Dershowitz, has a "far better record on human rights than any other nation in the Middle East and most other nations in the world." As evidence, he notes that "Israel is the only nation in the world whose judiciary actively enforces the rule of law against its military during wartime" and that "Israel has killed fewer innocent civilians in proportion to the number of its own civilians killed than any country engaged in a comparable war."... The Case for Israel

Fighting the Lies Harder Than Fighting the War - Israel does not "deliberately" target civilians.

Regarding the mistreatment of Arabs by Arabs, two interesting cases that immediately come to mind:

Black September - In Context
Hama 1982 – The Syrian massacre you never heard about (Not for those of weak constitution. The SS had nothing on the Syrian Army.)

For some reason you never really hear about those. What makes it doubly interesting is that Black September was specifically against the Palestinian Arabs.

Researchers at Fukushima Medical University, which has been taking the leading role in the study, have said they do not believe the most recent cases are related to the nuclear crisis.

In a homogenous society like Japan, what would you expect them to say? Do you also know that the Japanese never used Korean "comfort women"? Except maybe in Okinawa:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22666899

There is a possible conspiracy though.

The government (Cons) want to pass through the so-called "snoopers charter" to make note of all of our emails and web traffic. The LibDems and a few others have blocked this so far, but we've recently had a murder case (April Jones: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-22781411) during which it was found that the killer had had child porn on his computer. There are now the requisite "block child porn from the internet" calls, as you'd expect (including the NSPCC saying there's a link between looking at kiddie porn and going out and harming children). Further, John Carr, the government's Internet advisor has said Google et. al should be logging actual humans to searches (not just IPs or pseudonyms) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22726004) - side comment: I should imagine Google is probably the worst place to find 'hard' porn of any kind, let alone kiddie porn, so this seems deeply flawed, regardless of your stance on such things).

So... the conspiracy here is that the government has pressured the police to have a bit of a crack down. When the police find it difficult, they too can join in the cries for "we need more monitoring on the internet, because otherwise crime fighting is hard". That'll bring the police in line with MI5, the Culture Secretary and the child-porn fighting public who are asking for action. Then, the government can re-propose it's draconian measures, and we'll all accept them because we don't want to be paedophiles.

I'll give it a month before the chief of police says something like "I wish we had more powers to monitor people's internet usage".

There's 2 main different types of Marmite, the orignal British and a New Zealand version. There was a major shortage of the NZ variety after the Christchurch earthquake.

In new-from-the-factory and FCC/equivalent-approved condition, sure. But if it's faulty it might continue to function while internally having developed an internal electrical fault that's causing the noise.

It wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened either:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/beds/bucks/herts/8327549.stm

For once the UK leads the USA in the long, slow slide to a police state. They take them from kids a lot

For once?
The UK leads the way in the slide to Police State in almost every way, and has for a long time.

For once the UK leads the USA in the long, slow slide to a police state. They take them from kids a lot

What's this "long, slow slide"? We (The USA) are there already. Whenever the police push their bounds and it gets to the SCOTUS, they go through the motions, deliberate, and then say, "Yep, the cops can do it." and make some sort of tenuous rationalization on how it's OK by the Constitution.

If I were a cop/federal agent or whatever, I'd do whatever the fuck I wanted knowing that SCOTUS will back me.

Now, the whole IRS thing .... the IRS agents made the mistake of picking on a big corporation. If the IRS agents did what they did to some citizen, you can bet your ass that NOTHING would have happened to them.

In the US, if you're not cop (or a one percenter), you're little people.

It's been answered: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/825641.stm

For once the UK leads the USA in the long, slow slide to a police state. They take them from kids a lot

I've only spent a few months in the USA, but I don't remember any restaurants I saw offering all-you-can-drink including alcoholic beverages along with a fixed price meal, and yet I recall this being fairly common in Tokyo. Or are you deliberately misreading the grandparent so that you can call him a retard?

This is just because many japanese people lack the gene to process alcohol efficiently so can't drink for shit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2262318.stm

This makes excessive drinking more of a cultural taboo than it is in Europe and America where it was essential to drink in order to get the nutrition you needed to survive from seasonal crops that only came once a year in our climate. Japan and the far east had the ability to grow crops that could be harvested throughout the year unlike grain.

If anything was News for Nerds, this is it.

Not just Nerds. The installation of a new Doctor may not be up there with a new Prime Minister or Pope, but it still gets mainstream coverage in the UK.

"after spending the last four seasons in the titular role of The Doctor" - no, it was only three. The British do TV different than the Americans but there were only three "seasons" (including the current one) with Smith.

"where he will star alongside a majority of the other actors who have taken on the character" - That was the fan theory ages ago, but the casting has long since been confirmed by the BBC and David Tennant is the only other former doctor to appear in the special.

Regardless, Smith had a great run. I was skeptical at first at the "youngest ever doctor" but I was thrilled with the result.

But you see, while there's "1500+" Android devices (LOL), there are only a handful of really popular ones (probably you could count on your hands -- Galaxy S series, One series, one or two specific budget phones), and even then, there are only a handful of chip platforms (Snapdragon, Exynos, Tegra) -- testing on one device will likely have a working app on other phones.

There are a ton of companies that have successful applications on Android. Just because one developer can't fix bugs or doesn't know how to program in Android properly just means that that company chose their developer poorly -- a problem you'd also have on other platforms.

Sure. It just takes longer on Android than on iOS - and not just because of the fragmentation. Just one example

"If you look at the amount of energy we spend on Apple, it pales in comparison to what we spend on Android. And that's right - we agree with the audience." But he then outlined the challenges involved:

RCJ: Why is there this gap between the BBC's offering for Apple and Android - I've heard talk that it's all about the fragmentation of the Android ecosystem?

DD: "It's not just fragmentation of the operating system - it is the sheer variety of devices. Before Ice Cream Sandwich (an early variant of the Android operating system) most Android devices lacked the ability to play high quality video. If you used the same technology as we've always used for iPhone, you'd get stuttering or poor image quality. So we're having to develop a variety of approaches for Android."

"badgers are considered an endangered species" except where it's been decided to kill lots of them.

I won't comment except to say that it seems very inconsistent. J

They still get in the way and need a cull once in a while. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22614350

Are they really endangered? (Getting offtopic...)

Can we please stop pretending that "market share" means "winning?"

No I'm a consumer :) I think better specification/OS at better value/choice with Android is winning...and the fact that that it has greater market share (with a stronger Application Market) reinforces these things.

As for any idea why people here talk about market share over (short) term profits. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22274324 Apples profits are falling

As for the gravy train being over, by what metric? Their sales certainly aren't growing at the rate that Android's are, but by any measure, they are still massively successful. Their rate of sale has continued to grow incredibly fast, and their profits in PCs and mobile devices represent either a plurality or majority in each of those markets.

They bought back shares to stop the bleed in share price, and the negativity around it, and it has stabilised at around $450 from its high of $705. Its a poor move that slowed the drop in price of the shares, but not the cause of the drop; The end of the gravy train being over.

I am not sure why the post was modded informative. Here are the IDC numbers http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24085413. There rate of sales growth was single digit for Apple at 6.6% behind the market...at 41.6%...and samsung at 60.7%...and LG at 110.2%..and Huawei at 94%...and ZTE at 49.2%...even Others gets 37%...so you must be using some other measure of incredibly fast.

Nothing is mentioned about their PC's which are basically treated like cancer by Apple, but have incredible drops of 22%..and (the more manageable) 2% over the last 2 quarters, despite Windows 8 being hated universally. I cant help but notice Microsoft and Intel do not appear on the Pie chart...who are destroying the PC industry with their massive 70% margins.Its why Manufacturing companies are running to Android.

...the bottom line though in reference to Apples ONE saving grace...its profits...they dropped http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22274324, posting an opinion piece that pretends the reverse does not change that.

Malaysia car thieves steal finger

I don't feel the need to post this in response the request for a car analogy, but rather in response to any intended real world application of biometric security.

Indirectly yes. You don't have to stab somebody or shoot them to kill them. Psychological harm can be just as effective.

If you accept that kind of indirect blame, then right now you're murdering a starving African child.

Technically that's true. Just as anybody who buys clothes in Benetton, Primark, Matalan, Mango, Bonmarche, and the other companies sourcing from places like this bear some responsibility. Those companies source in countries with no unions, no ban on child labour, no minimum wage, and no workplace safety laws because their customers demand quality clothes a bargain basement prices. If you are a customer, you can't pretend it has nothing to do with you.

The only real choices made here were (a) to film this unfortunate girl in a compromising position and (b) to post it on Facebook for the world to see. Everything else was a consequence.

What about the choice to go to the party, and the choice to start drinking and maybe doing drugs, and the choice to keep drinking until she got drunk? Those choices were even more fundamental than the ones you listed.

So we should all stay home in case some douchebag videos us? I'm sure most other people at the party were in various stages of inebriation as well. That doesn't make them fair game. The choice to make the video and post it on Facebook were deliberate pre-meditated acts.

Like I said you don't always have to physically commit murder. Often inflicting psychological damage can do the job just as well.

Out of 1000 murders, how many do you think have no physical interaction, just psychological damage?

And this is relevant how? If you drive somebody to suicide you can't pretend it has nothing to do with you just because you didn't physically attack them. Numbers have nothing to do with it.

It may have worked for you for a long time but the world is slowly awakening to just how evil the behaviour of Israel is.

Given your views, you should probably hope that the world isn't awakening to evil behavior, otherwise the there some unexpected drubbings that are going to be handed out.

Palestinians Celebrate after Brutal Murder of Fogel Family
The Jews Were Brought to Palestine for the Great Massacre
Palestinian Myth Machine
Fighting the Lies Harder Than Fighting the War
Goldstone: You Cannon Undo a Slander
The European Left and Its Trouble With Jews
Why the al-Dura Blood Libel Still Matters

Yes, much of the world joins to condemn Israel, often based on lies, but either passes in silence over true horrors of the genuine mass murdering regimes in the Middle East, or actually defends the real butchers.

Hama 1982 – The Syrian massacre you never heard about
Commentary: Remembering Iraq's mass graves

What happened to Iraq's 'human shields'?

If Israel was only as evil as Iraq or Syria, the Paelstinians would have disappeared into mass graves long ago. That clearly hasn't happened.

As is common in this matter, you have things badly confused. Israel did nothing to Iran to deserve they way the new Iranian government turned on them. If you think otherwise, please provide a list. One hint to reduce the chances of you going down the wrong path again: the Palestinians are not Iranian, and the Iranians are not Arabs.

As to "untermenschen," that would be the view of post-revolution Iranian government, and many Arabs living in Palestine.

Reading Mein Kampf in Tehran

On Monday, the Iranian Foreign Ministry held an international conference. Nothing unusual in that: Foreign ministries hold conferences, mostly dull ones, all the time. But this one was different. For one, "Review of the Holocaust: Global Vision" dealt with history, not current politics. Instead of the usual suspects — deputy ministers and the like — the invitees seem to have included David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader; Georges Theil, a Frenchman who has called the Holocaust "an enormous lie"; and Fredrick Toeben, a German-born Australian whose specialty is the denial of Nazi gas chambers.

The guest list was selective: No one with any academic eminence, or indeed any scholarly credentials, was invited. One Palestinian scholar, Khaled Mahameed, was asked to come but then barred because he holds an Israeli passport — and also perhaps because he, unlike other guests, believes that the Holocaust really did happen.

In response, Europe, America, and Israel expressed official outrage. The German government, to its credit, organized a counter-conference. ...

Hamas video: Killing Jews is 'worship that draws us close to Allah'
The Jews Were Brought to Palestine for the Great Massacre

As to the rest, you should catch up on some reading and get back to me.

UN agency stops aid imports to Gaza, cites Hamas 'thefts'
Looters strip Gaza greenhouses
Gazans seethe over taxes and blackouts
Sewage flood causes Gaza deaths
Hamas Bulldozes UN-Designated Historical Site to Make Room for Terrorist Training Camp
In Gaza, Hamas rule has not turned out as many expected
Rights watchdog accuses Hamas of torture, abuse of Palestinians
Hamas accused of routine torture of detainees in Gaza Strip
Palestinian Authority: Still Stealing "Hundreds of Millions," Hamas Taking Over
NY Times ignores Gaza's millionaires, hypes poverty, blames Israel (natch)

According to reports in the Arab press, a thriving smuggling economy in Gaza has produced no fewer than 600 millionaires. Hundreds of tunnels to Egypt have become bustling export and import conduits -- with the ruling Hamas elite siphoning off milli

Where in the world did you get the "anti-jewish slant" from, exactly?! The GP mentions Jerusalem Post which is an Israeli reference, but nothing about Jews. You realize people can dislike Israel and their actions without disliking all Jews or the Jewish religion. You also realize that Israel continues to be one of the most negatively viewed countries in the world according to a BBC World Service poll, so you can cry all you want but when so many people dislike a country over so many years, something's wrong with that country and not the people.

Australia are also on the band wagon too http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22685332 Seems like every hacker the world over now spoofs "inside China" as their point of origin. VM rental in Chinese datacentres must be big business in International espionage.

I'm a British nobody and I knew that. It was all over the news a couple of months ago. Here we are.

Which demonstrates further that almost all classification is about hiding secrets from ones own citizens.

full hspa+ coverage on and around the peak.

it actually is a cell tower
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6676901.stm
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-09-21/news/34002418_1_base-camp-base-station-mount-everest-base

From this article, (well worth the read, BTW)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22680192

"Westerners can pay anything from $10,000 (£6,600) to $100,000 (£66,000) for permits to climb the mountain and guides to accompany them..."

So, $2k extra seems modest. I'm sure this argument could be quickly solved by an apology and payment of the $2k retrospectively.

Reminds me one time I was skippering a ship for some friends in the Caribbean; the mooring fees seemed pretty high to me, (just to tie up to a small buoy for the night; no other amenities).
When I commented on this to the official, he said "you've got a yacht, you can afford it".
I looked out of the window of his grubby shack at our (rented) 42' boat. Yeah, he was right.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1248068.stm

It is old ass news but the concept is correct. The jet stream is better than the surface. Don't worry about commercial airlines they run 10k feet lower.

From TFA:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10519166

The 49-page handwritten letter allegedly sent to police by Moat, which was also handed to The Sun newspaper, said: "Last night I called 999 and declared war on Northumbria Police before shooting an officer on the West End A69 roundabout in his T5.

"Rang again and told them they're gonna pay for what they've done to me and Sam.

"I went straight but they couldn't let it go.

"The public need not fear me but the police should as I won't stop till I'm dead."

First off, full quote for "b" is:

(b)the use or threat is designed to influence the government [F1or an international governmental organisation]F1 or to intimidate the public or a section of the public, and

... and it's not "radical" but "racial" under "c".

His explanation for "declaring war" covers the ideological cause under "c".
"A" being covered, threatening the police covers "b" as intention to influence the government (police being a government organization and a vital part of government's justice system) AND "a section of the public" - police officers and their families being a section of said public.

Not that "b" or "c" really matters because:

(2)Action falls within this subsection if itâ"

(a) involves serious violence against a person,
(b) involves serious damage to property,
(c) endangers a personâ(TM)s life, other than that of the person committing the action,
(d) creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public, or
(e) is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system.

(3)The use or threat of action falling within subsection (2) which involves the use of firearms or explosives is terrorism whether or not subsection (1)(b) is satisfied.

I.e. You don't have to try to influence the government or public.
Simply threatening to endanger lives (or say, disrupting "an electronic system") with guns and/or explosives is good enough to be classified as a terrorist act.

I.e. Moat calling in a threat already made his action a terrorist act, even before killing police officers.

At least one police force continuously record the main hum, which they claim both provides a unique signature and also enable to tell if the recording has been modified. Not sure if it would work for a battery-powered camcorder, tho'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20629671

If you RTFA, it mentions that the 'main hum' is embedded in the audio track. It emanates from anything connected to mains power (lamps, plug socket, lights, pylons, etc), and the audio recording of a camera picks it up. Thus forensic investigators can look at an audio spectrogram and compare it to the historically recorded data. The article further mentions that this method is currently for audio evidence only.

At least one police force continuously record the main hum, which they claim both provides a unique signature and also enable to tell if the recording has been modified. Not sure if it would work for a battery-powered camcorder, tho'.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20629671

Murder is already very, very illegal. No new laws are needed.
Planning murder is already very illegal. No new laws are needed.
Soliciting murder is already very illegal. No new laws are needed.

I believe that level of perfection in the law was reached by 1613. Are you suggesting that in the last 400 years that all subsequent new laws were unneeded? There was no need to ban guns, since killing people was already illegal? No need for any of the anti-terrorism laws, since killing people was already illegal? There was no opportunity to improve matters that are governed by law? No possibilities to improve evidence gathering? No possibilities to improve cooperation between different ministries and agencies? No limits on extremist activity that might inhibit the already far too many people in HM realm that are disposed to commit acts of terror. Also note, by your reasoning there should have been no reason to effectively ban self-defense, since murder is already illegal so no further laws are necessary. I don't think I can agree with that.

Starting from July 7/7/2005, an average of 7 people are killed per year due to terrorist attacks. That's on the same level as eye-wateringly obscure medical diseases.

I am unaware of any obscure medical diseases that might cause one to burst into thousands of pieces of steel shrapnel to kill dozens of people standing nearby. That is a constant threat of terrorism of the sort already seen in Britain. The absence of regular incidents of such is a result of convictions, not luck or magic stones.

Basically, any money put into preventing those is a complete waste: the money would be vastly better spent elsewhere, such as improving road safety.

Those numbers can change rather quickly if just one plot gets through.

No, I'll try and shoot them, just like the police shot at these murderers. And see, no new laws were needed.

That would be use of an offensive weapon. There are severe penalties for violating the Queens peace like that.

"The rest of your post is boasting about how much you got from government which is in contradiction to your assertion that you got less from government than you put in."

I clarified that so I'm not sure why you're still confused about the point. My original comment that I'm not a net beneficiary was that I'm not directly financially a net beneficiary - I don't use the services enough directly to be worth it right now, I don't get any benefits like child tax credits, unemployment, disability or anything like that.

But that doesn't mean I don't benefit indirectly, it doesn't mean I haven't benefited in the past, and it doesn't mean I wont benefit in the future.

Yes right now I'm certainly not benefitting directly but that doesn't mean I'm getting screwed. When I was born, when I was going through school someone was subsidising me, and it's quite possible when I'm old and need end of life care that someone may well be subsidising me depending on what happens in the future. The simple fact is we cannot be self-supporting for every minute of our existence, it's not possible, we're all dependent at some point.

"But you said you live in the UK. One merely needs to look at their public surveillance system or their laws on slander and libel to see that they're kind of retarded."

As opposed to a nation with warrantless wiretapping, that bans kinder eggs deeming them more dangerous than guns and that is full of cities with absurd ordinances such as determining how much grass you must have in your garden? Yeah, so much for the land of the free, home of the brave.

What's it like being barely more liked than China? -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22624104

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22614522

Lead investigator Dr William Jacobs, professor of microbiology and immunology at Albert Einstein College of Medicine at Yeshiva University, said: "We have only been able to demonstrate this in a test tube, and we don't know if it will work in humans and in animals.

3D printers turns materials i,e, thermoplastic) into a shape. But you still need the base materials. We are far from CHON food syntetizers. They must have some input, and better to be nutrient complete (and not what they think is nutrient complete, but what our body effectively needs). What it will use? Insects?, Soylent green ?

Anyway, just giving shape to something that you already have don't seem so big breakthrough. Just making a smoothie with them should be pretty similar.

Education is something best left to non-Americans if the record is any indication. Icelanders are calm and collected, why not have them introduce American gun policy.

This article is about google and amazon in the UK. In an attempt at link baiting, there is a single line about apple in the US in the article so they would write Apple in the headline for clicks.

And slashdot fell for it - and so did I.

Actually the summary refers to the fact that Apple do this too.

Just because it's not specifically mentioned in the linked article, doesn't mean it's not happening.

I applaud National Carpet Day. A great opportunity for carpet flying, carpet munching and carpet cleaning.

It isn't thought crime that is the concern, but rather "ball bearing" crime.

This is what happens when you catch them before they attack.

Bomb plot: Life sentence for Irfan Naseer, ringleader of Birmingham men planning wave of UK suicide attacks

This is what happens when you don't.

Madrid Train Station Blasts Kill 190
Bali bombing remembered 10 years on
London Attacks
Investigation of Boston Marathon bombings continues

I would think this is easy to understand.