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Re:As usual with new Firefox releases...
In Windows try Kmeleon or Kmeleon CCF ME. Both are based on Win32 instead of XUL and use much less RAM. That said multi-process is NOT the way to go. There are still quite a few Windows and Linux boxes out there maxed out at 512Mb of RAM. For them Firefox works, whereas Chrome grinds to a halt.
I've also found if you are picky with your extensions memory usage in FF3 isn't bad. I am typing this on a 1.1GHz maxed out with 512Mb running Win2K Pro and it makes a great netbox, even with 8 extensions and multiple tabs. But adding multi-process is like sticking bandaids on a bullet wound. There needs to be more control on extension management, or at least a rating system with memory and CPU usage figured into the ratings. But please don't screw FF with multi-process BS. Not everybody is using a dual core with 4Gb of RAM you know.
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Re:A few thoughts...
I'm actually suprised how little press attention has been paid to this court ruling. This could be a very very big thing if applied to other digital content. http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/cloudification-of-your-content.html
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The Real Crooks
Awesome Rolling Stone article linked below on the real crooks behind most of this. Nothing is happening to them...and the way things look nothing will. Welcome to the new America. Bernie was an easy fall guy. Try putting the executhieves from the past 15 years of Goldman Sachs in jail for all of the securities fraud and Ponzi schemes they have and continue to pull! You would probably be met by business end of an M-16 by our own military. They have wiped out trillions from people of all walks of life all over the globe. Think it is only conspiracy theory? Read the article.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/06/goldman-sachs-engineering-every-major.html
Enjoy!
P.S. I am not affiliated with Rolling Stone magazine. That said, for clearer text and to support the author and magazine for taking a stand, please get a copy.
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More from Junk Food Science
Now the middle-age spread had been proven to be not only normal, but beneficial. Junk food science has a couple good articles on this study: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/even-obesity-paradoxes-cant-excuse.html and http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/paradoxes-compel-us-to-think-part-two.html
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More from Junk Food Science
Now the middle-age spread had been proven to be not only normal, but beneficial. Junk food science has a couple good articles on this study: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/even-obesity-paradoxes-cant-excuse.html and http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2009/06/paradoxes-compel-us-to-think-part-two.html
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Crackpottery
Quantum computing is one of biggest hoaxes/crackpotteries in the history of science, on a par with the flat earth hypothesis.
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freedom suckers webpage mentioned in article
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This and everything else
Can't see south park online or see full episodes of tv shows anywhere. even clips from shows are blocked on some sites like on some shows on Discovery. Can't rent movies on xbox, apple tv etc. There's a few online movie rental sites with a very limited catalog (20-30 movies). Can't get any proper recording boxes(want a record a show when it is available on any channel, and no microsoft media center is not an option)
Really, the best option are a RSS feed from eztv or nzbtv., a NAS(that can download too) and a Popcorn Hour media player. Then you can see the shows you want, when you want it even if they don't broadcast them in your country.
The TV and movie business are repeating the failures of the music industry(at least in scandinavia). I am sick and tired of seeing messages like this everywhere. http://martinklasch.blogspot.com/2008/10/cartoons-sorry-scandinavia.html
I have seen that Discovery Channel now are sending some TV shows without a year or two in delay. For examples shows like mythbusters are only a month behind or something like that.
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How long until general availability?
1. Get Google Voice.
From the web site: "Google Voice is currently available by invite only." How long did it take Google to get, say, Orkut to the point where invite codes were no longer needed? Google's blog claims that Google began activating accounts on June 25, 2009, but will the invite backlog become cleared before November 2009?
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Re:Old news
It's Sunday; the death occurred on Thursday and Google blogged on the "attack" problem on Friday.
And finally, Slashdot links to an article that won't be posted until tomorrow. From TFA
Google mistook MJ searches for net attack
by Phil Muncaster on Jun 29, 2009P.S. I already know about the International Date Line, you don't need to spoil the joke by explaining it... oops I just did.
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Old news
It's Sunday; the death occurred on Thursday and Google blogged on the "attack" problem on Friday.
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Stallman and Mono
One of the claims used to push Mono was that Stallman was OK with it. He has just recently issued a statement that he is against mono being included in Linux distros.
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Re:A success? Some people disagree...
This blog chronicles the failure of this project: http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/
Wonder how this would compare with similar projects involving proprietary software. Assuming that it would be possible to blog in such a way without the software vendors and contractors setting their lawyers loose! -
The scientific method applies to climate science
In this article, the author writes, "Science is not a popularity contest. The assertions we make, our assumptions and methodology, must stand up to critical scrutiny in order to carry any weight. Anyone with an elementary education should be able to understand and bear witness to such an exposition if it is carried out clearly and free of unnecessary jargon. We can all understand and judge for ourselves the difference between good science and bad science." I suggest you read Carlin's paper, it's quite accessible, and draw your own conclusions about the quality and worth of his comments.
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Re:Both sides of the story
And look, already a comment on the Switzerland story.. maybe the first of many? Who knows? *shrugs*
From http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/2009/05/switzerland-acknowledges-that-there-is.html#comments:
Anonymous said...
Someone linked to your blog on
/. and it is not going well for you, your ideas, or your writing style. You might want to disable your comments section - just based on my analysis of your failure to grasp the basic tenants of reporting.
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Both sides of the story
Here's the blog from Floria Schiessl, project leader of the LiMux distro and the Munich migration: http://www.floschi.info/
Here's a blog from someone who believes the Munich migration was a failure: http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/
From reading both, I tend to gravitate towards the failure side. It's 2009 and only 10% migration? Wasn't this suppose to save money? It's a frigging embarrassment! How are you suppose to point to Munich as an example of free and open-source software working on a city scale when they can't even implement it in a reasonable time-frame?
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A success? Some people disagree...
This blog chronicles the failure of this project: http://limuxwatch.blogspot.com/
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Re:Oh this "best fit"
1) show me a correlation between solar activity and temperature
The causal correlation actually appears to be with cycle length, not activity directly. You really should be able to google the various relevant theories on your own, but start here:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/254/5032/698
Or, just watch the news. As Solar Cycle 24 is being kind enough to help us out by being unprecedentedly long to get started, and temperatures are declining exactly as predicted, you are SITTING IN THE MIDDLE of the correlation right now -- it's the graph I originally posted! And concomitantly, if temperatures turn up again before sunspots do, well then I'll take that as quite sufficient disproof. If I was you I wouldn't put any money on that actually happening, but we'll see, won't we?
2) propose a plausible theory of why past temperature correlates so closely with CO2 excursions, but why this CO2 excursion won't in turn cause a large temperature excursion.
Because C02 levels track the temperature, not lead it, by an 800-odd year margin. Unless you believe causation follows effect, there is nothing more to discuss here, is there? I would hope I could presume that you have at least enough knowledge of the subject to realize that's uncontested peer-reviewed science, but just in case you're actually that ignorant here's a quick starter for you.
http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/09/end-of-last-ice-age-co2-innocent.html
that would require you to show that CO2 is instead increased by temperature,
Which is quite easily showable, as water absorbs C02 proportionally to temperature -- you've noticed the recent spate of articles about "ocean acidification" yes? -- and therefore your graph is the expected consequence of oceanic temperature rise. Which I currently feel the best explanation for is lowered cloud cover as described by Svensmark et al., but I'm perfectly willing to change my opinions based on the results of the CERN CLOUD experiments and whatever other actual evidence turns up. As a secondary effect, higher temperatures mean more rotting plant material, that's the thawing of the permafrost and all you've no doubt heard of, but I'm pretty certain that'll turn out a bagatelle next to the oceanic effects.
or that CO2 and temperature increases have typically had a common cause.
Nope; the only primary driver of C02 fluctuations is oceanic temperatures, that's where I'll put my bet. With a tiny hedge for the biosphere carbon cycle perhaps turning out more important than is apparent right now, but that seems vanishingly unlikely to be important over any longish term.
it'll be hard to show that CO2 increases don't cause temperature changes: the physics of the CO2's heat-trapping effects and
Actually, it's not that hard, because artificially raised C02 environments do not show significantly raised heat retention. This indicates that there's much less energy actually available for absorption by C02 to make any difference in the real atmosphere as opposed to idealized physics models. But I won't bother googling anything on the subject, since we already noted above that for C02 to be a significant driver of climate it would have to work backwards in time, which certainly would be a fascinating trick indeed but sane people deem unlikely.
the feedback effect of increased water vapor are well-understood.
Which brings us back to the oceans as mentioned above. To sum up the progression:
1) Solar magnetic flows vary, which is apparently correlated to cycle length;
2) GCRs penetrate the earth's magnetic field in proportion to solar flows;
3) Cloud formation, especially over oceans, is directly and markedly proportional to GCRs. (We await the above-mentioned CERN CLOUD experiments and more years of satellite data for incontrovertibl
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Google Wave and room for multiple visions
Google Wave (be sure to watch the video, it's long, but there is lots of interesting stuff in it) will provide a system based on open standards and open source code. It will let folk use their own email inbox, IM client, and blog as the focus of their communication with the world. The open federated model will end the stovepipe model where I must have 5 IM systems, 3 to 5 social networking systems, and hundreds of blog logins what I must keep track of to communicate with folk. FaceBook will probably integrate and play with it, so they won't die overnight, but they wont' become the center of the internet. Google Wave, assuming it works as envisioned, will probably cement the "Google at the center of the internet" model, but it will leave room for other players, probably even help them, even those who could challenge Google Ads.
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Re:Come to the USA!
#1: We have rights of expression, assembly, thought, speech, and, yes, privacy enshrined in the Constitution.
But you also have police officers with batons and tasers who love to play Rambo against normal unarmed people, wiretapping against normal citizens and a President who helped to approve a law that gives immunity to the telcos that were caught spying. (Obama didn't oppose the FISA act).
We do, in fact, have the 2nd amendment (right to bear arms) specifically so we can unseat any tyrant who tries to take our rights away.
Do American people still believe in this bullshit? The right to keep firearms is no different than the right to buy a SUV, it only serves the interests of lobby groups.
Try walking with a discharged gun 100 meters near the White House then come back telling if they respect your right.#2: As a culture, we prize freedom the way Israel prizes "never again" or Iran prizes "Islam".
That's completely true, unfortunately what's written on paper doesn't always match with what is being done. the American principles of Freedom are the dream of a lot of people in various countries, mine included, but again, these are just words written on paper. The founding fathers wrote nothing about over 400 deaths by tasers.
"I just want to be left alone" is the only argument you'll need to get any American on your side.
Tell that to those people around the world who have to show papers to enter their damn home just because their government was beribed into letting the US build a military base nearby.
#5: From a feudalistic standpoint, you would go from being a subject of a crown to a citizen of a country -- theoretically speaking, from a king's slave to a king's peer.
I believe the monarchy is the least among all problems UK people have to deal with today.
Don't get this post as anti American or offensive. My point is just that what's told is often very different from what's done.
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Re:freelegoporn.com is not cybersquatting
Trademarks are certainly not protected by fair use. Fair use is an affirmative defense in copyright infringement cases, not trademark infringement cases
This is criticism, not parody, but certainly suggests the concept of "fair use" can be applied to trademarks, as well as copyright.
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Re:Cap & Trade = Energy Rationing
Bingo -- thanks dc29A, I was just about to make the post having just read that Tabbi piece.
Folks, if you haven't yet read that Rolling Stone PLEASE DO. This is the next CDS massive wealth transfer for GS and other investment banks, and it's being billed as this wonderful green gift with a giant green bow.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/06/goldman-sachs-engineering-every-major.html
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one of my fave tools is hounded similarlyThere's a site that uses Google search systems to find music on blogs called chewbone. It's been a great tool for me. I have a few thousand vinyl records I've collected since the early 70s, and a lot of it is really obscure weird shit that never made CD, and I'll be damned if I'm going to piss several thousand hours away digitising it. A few here and there, sure. But not the bulk. So, it's much easier to search and find other people who have done a few and uploaded them. Saves tons of time and effort.
The problem is, chewbone is regularly slammed by Google for his efforts. Bunch of assholes, IMHO. (chewbone - if you're reading this - hat's off, dude. Thanks!)
RS
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Creating Chaos for Profit
Put a cap on the emissions that industry can output, then create a market where companies can trade the right to pollute. Cap and Trade.
The big question is, what is this Change going to do to the US economy?
- Create asymmetry between US industry and global industry for future growth. Why should I build my factory in the USA and go through the regulations when it just became more profitable to build it overseas?
- Existing price structures are scrambled. Estimates from the power industry say that once you add in the costs of Cap-and-trade, this will make Coal more expensive than Natural Gas fuel, completely flipping the fuel makeups of almost all electricity production markets. Since Coal is used as fuel for about half of the energy production in the US, this will be disasterous to the wholesale markets. Since corporations always pass costs down to consumers, expect to see your retail electric bills go up by 5-15%, or an average of $700-1400 per family per year.
- Who exactly is benefitting here? Estimates are that about $50 to $300 billion is getting ready to change hands, with the government running the auction for the "rights" to pollute. It essentially puts extra costs on industry that uses polluting fuels, and the claims are that some of the money will become subsidies to cleaner/greener energy producers. Since zero-emission technology is currently 3x as expensive as fossil based technologies, there will not be any savings to the public, hense the comparisons to a "tax" for the public.
While all of cap-and-trade appears very poorly thought out, Pres. Obama actually fully intended this to happen, as interviewed almost a year ago. So, hold on to your wallet, change is coming...
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Try working on just improving the codePerfect for procrastination.
Just sit down with it, but instead of writing new code, clean it up, or add some tests around it. There are two benefits:
- It will start looking much better, and you'll have a better feeling about it.
- You'll get yourself back into context, and before you know it, you'll find you want to do some development at it.
I have a similar problem: I have a project that I would really like to work on, but can find time only occasionally. I have found that coming back to it after a long time is very hard. I have my lists, but starting something is just formidable. So, I start by reading around, doing little stuff here and there and just cleaning it up, until I feel confident enough to do something.
And in general, it's very good to have your code thoroughly tested. Read about it here: http://manent-notes.blogspot.com/2008/08/developing-under-severe-time.html
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Re:real children + real pornongraphy = ???
That is true but we are talking about child molestation, and the abuse of the child when she is made to be a subject of pornographic pictures. This is not what you could call victimless. This is because even if she is right under the legal limit, we as a society have decided that allowing people under the age of majority as the subject of erotic photos or films is unacceptable
This issue is at what point does it stop being child pornography. An adult female dressed up in catholic school girl clothes diddling herself gets closer to that line than if that same adult female was wearing a sexy nightie. A picture of an actual catholic school girl(minor) diddling herself is child pornography, even if she were wearing adult clothing. But, the issue is does taking the actual real face of that catholic schoolgirl and pasting it on top of the adult make the picture child pornography?
I would have to say yes.
Lets say I photoshop a picture of you. I put your face on another person's body, and thus make it seems that you were cheating on your spouse. Your spouse sees the picture and is pissed because he or she sees it as a picture of you cheating. That picture is about you, even if it is faked. Using the face of a real minor makes it about that minor, and even if part of the picture, or most of it, is not her, her face makes her the subject of the picture.
Now, to respond to you comment about prostitution, the prostitutes are the victims in that scenario. While there are a few prostitutes that can not be called victims (such as the workers at the Bunny Ranch), many are trapped in a cycle of abuse and self destruction. Sometimes, arresting these prostitutes is the only chance they have of escaping their situation. And it doesn't even work well. But you can't claim prostitution as a victimless crime, especially when the average starting age of a prostitute in the US is 13. -
Re:Another two words
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Re:Firefox password save??
You still need to be ware of the saved password features in some browser (Firefox & Chrome at least.) There are ways that your saved password could potentially be viewed in plain text by anyone that has a few seconds of access to your browser.
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Showing passwords In plain text is always bad...
Anytime your password is visible in plain text is bad. This includes when it's stored in a database, written on a post-it and pasted to your monitor, or anywhere else.
As a software developer, there is no reason for me to ever show you your password in plain text even while it's being entered. In my opinion, the security benefits of the mask definitely out-weigh the usability costs.
Just like how your stored passwords are visible in plain text in Firefox and Chrome to anyone with a few seconds alone with your computer, showing them in plain text while entering them into passwords fields is a horrible idea. -
Showing passwords In plain text is always bad...
Anytime your password is visible in plain text is bad. This includes when it's stored in a database, written on a post-it and pasted to your monitor, or anywhere else.
As a software developer, there is no reason for me to ever show you your password in plain text even while it's being entered. In my opinion, the security benefits of the mask definitely out-weigh the usability costs.
Just like how your stored passwords are visible in plain text in Firefox and Chrome to anyone with a few seconds alone with your computer, showing them in plain text while entering them into passwords fields is a horrible idea. -
Shameless plug
I wrote about that option when I first read Nielsen's article: http://live2dev.blogspot.com/2009/06/should-we-stop-masking-passwords.html
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Android == Native code support!!
Google just announced a Native Code Development Kit for Android:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/06/introducing-android-15-ndk-release-1.html
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Re:Questions from a DNS implementor
I'll post a summary of the discussion to my blog. I welcome open discussion, but I feel more comfortable posting to a place where I can filter out the trolls.
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Questions from a DNS implementor
OK, since Mr. Kaminsky is following this thread, I figured this would be a good place to open up some questions and a discussion between a DNS implementor and Mr. Kaminsky.
Let me introduce myself: My name is Sam Trenholme and I am the implementor of MaraDNS, a recursive and caching DNS server. Right now, I am in the slow process of re-writing the recursive DNS resolver. While MaraDNS has always been as secure as non-DNSSEC can be against Mr. Kaminsky's bug (DJB knew about the problem back in 1999 and I implemented his solution to randomize both the query ID and the source port back in 2001), I am wondering:
How hard is it to implement DNSSEC in my recursive cache? How many RFCs am I going to have to toil over to understand DNSSEC well enough to implement it? About how long will it take me to code MaraDNS to have full DNSSEC support?
I have a bad feeling that DNSSEC is a monster to implement and that we will not see many independent implementations of it; right now BIND and Unbound appear to be the only DNS servers to support it. DjbDNS doesn't support it, of course, and probably never will. My own MaraDNS and PowerDNS also don't support.
What are your thoughts? Has a reasonable effort been made to make DNSSEC easy to implement?
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Questions from a DNS implementor
OK, since Mr. Kaminsky is following this thread, I figured this would be a good place to open up some questions and a discussion between a DNS implementor and Mr. Kaminsky.
Let me introduce myself: My name is Sam Trenholme and I am the implementor of MaraDNS, a recursive and caching DNS server. Right now, I am in the slow process of re-writing the recursive DNS resolver. While MaraDNS has always been as secure as non-DNSSEC can be against Mr. Kaminsky's bug (DJB knew about the problem back in 1999 and I implemented his solution to randomize both the query ID and the source port back in 2001), I am wondering:
How hard is it to implement DNSSEC in my recursive cache? How many RFCs am I going to have to toil over to understand DNSSEC well enough to implement it? About how long will it take me to code MaraDNS to have full DNSSEC support?
I have a bad feeling that DNSSEC is a monster to implement and that we will not see many independent implementations of it; right now BIND and Unbound appear to be the only DNS servers to support it. DjbDNS doesn't support it, of course, and probably never will. My own MaraDNS and PowerDNS also don't support.
What are your thoughts? Has a reasonable effort been made to make DNSSEC easy to implement?
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Some pics
Here's a pic of the subject hooked up to the machine.
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Re:Wow!
Feel free to mod me down if this is regarded as spam, but I'm working on a UI called Brevity, which will be based on Clutter.
The idea is to create a user interface that is like a huge wall that can be zoomed in and out of. You'll have apps that run where you start them, and you start them by clicking on an empty space on the wall. A 3x3 app launcher will pop up around the mouse pointer with the browser in the middle.
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Re:No wayback archive copy available.
There's a (presumably incomplete but who knows given that the original is missing!) archive here:
http://nightjackarchive.blogspot.com/
I just started reading in reverse order. It's powerful stuff.
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Re:Wow
# Atari could not "buy out" ScummVM from us
# There is no possibility to double license ScummVM, at least SCUMM engine
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If you want ScummVMs take on this
Here you go:
http://sev-notes.blogspot.com/2009/06/gpl-scummvm-and-violations.htmlFrom The blog Post:
The finals
Thus, the facts were:
* There is a GPL violation (their denial has to be proven in a court, strings in executables and the bug above clearly show it)
* Atari could not release source codes because of Nintendo NDA
* Atari could not put GPL clause because of Nintendo NDA
* Atari could not "buy out" ScummVM from us
* There is no possibility to double license ScummVM, at least SCUMM engine
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Re:RIAA
I'll see your LG Voyager and raise you one LG VX8300. Nice phone, but Verizon butchered its capabilities. See this website for some examples of what I talking about. Pay extra attention to the post titled "Make MP3 and MIDI Ringtones".
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Re:I stopped reading the summary
ZFS support for OSX: http://alblue.blogspot.com/2008/11/zfs-119-on-mac-os-x.html
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If anyone is interested in a solar water heater...
I've written a blog on my solar water heater which covers about the same year period as Loyd's solar panels about 100 miles north of Sunnyvale. Loyd's story is very useful to me as I've been debating if solar panels would improve the efficiency of the solar water heater. I'm still not sure this was a wise financial investment, but I do like how I get free hot water when the sun is out and the hot water never runs out (like with a tankless). Anyway, for those interested in solar water heating: http://suburbiasolarwaterheating.blogspot.com/
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Re:Why not real trees?
To put it differently according to the following article:
http://withouthotair.blogspot.com/2008/06/last-thing-we-should-talk-about.html
"So the area of forest per person required to fix a European output of 11 tonnes of CO2 per year is 7500 square metres per person."
However the forest also converts solar energy and CO2 into O2 and organic material. This is what CO2 storage doesn't do. Trees may not be particularly efficient at it but the storage problem should be solved by just letting them stand for some couple of hundred years until we can figure out what to do with it.
The problem with the trees is that in my country there are about 2 people living on one hectare already, so to make that work we would have to shrink in numbers, which we do, or lower our carbon footprint towards which we make half assed steps at best.
The idea with the forests might not be entirely impossible but we would have to deal with a growing amount of organic matter around us which would only be allowed to stop growing as soon as we stop using fossil fuels.
A bbc article mentions:
"He predicts that one synthetic tree could remove 90,000 tonnes of CO2 in a year
So it means the CO2 output of 8000 people could be sucked up if the numbers are correct. This thing is remarkable.
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Re:Get a pringles can and go to Iraq
Do they make Halal Pringles?
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Re:Judgement
A little perspective please...
Yes, spam is damn annoying and the guys deserve imprisonment, and confiscation of every penny they earned through spam. But to compare fraudulent execs favorably to these, is a little overboard. Cheating you out of your money is lesser crime than spam?!?!
I think it's a tough call between the two: both cause enormous waste. You probably don't realize just how much email is spam because companies like Google, Yahoo and Microsoft do a pretty damn good job of filtering it out of their webmail products. Similarly your employer probably has spam filters etc. All of that junk email costs time, money and power; and those resources could probably be more effectively used elsewhere.
Some good stats are in this informative article: http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2009/01/2008-year-in-spam.html
The average number of spam emails a user would have received per day: 194.
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This is silly
We can solve all of our energy problems with nuclear power right now. We have enough uranium fuel to last hundreds of years. If we switch to thorium there's ten thousand years of fuel just in the known reserves alone. Here's a little reading
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hydroelectric
They already do this quite regularly with the oldest green source of power you managed to omit: Hydroelectric.
According to a UN study I read hydroelectric dams are economically poor, cost more than the proposals said, and do not return the economic benefits they were sold are providing. I didn't find the study but I found this: "UN study advises caution over dams". And then there are problems with dams like those on the Klamath River in southern Oregon and northern California or the Three Gorges Dam in China. Indian tribes in Oregon by treaty have rights to salmon that use the Klamath, however the dams prevent salmon from making it to their spawning grounds. In China the government forcibly relocated more than 1 million people, and India is doing the same for a new dam there.
Falcon
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Re:Amish are people too....
Plus, I personally have never heard of Amish drunk driving.
http://townhall.com/Common/PrintPage.aspx?g=6db7f947-3093-40b0-b99b-8198ab770d00&t=c
http://swartzamish.blogspot.com/2008/07/watsontown-police-amish-buggy-driver.html