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Desktop As a Cellphone Extension?

spaceman375 writes "Like many slashdotters, I've given up on landlines and have only a cell account. The problem: when I am home I don't want to carry my phone on my person, AND I don't want to have to run (possibly up or down stairs) to answer a call. Landlines solved this with extensions. I could go buy an xlink or other Bluetooth-to-POTS solution, but that takes money for equipment. My desktop has Bluetooth, as do my laptop and cell. All I want is a program that can use my cell's Bluetooth to make and receive calls from my Linux PC. I can do this with asterisk or related programs, but that is like buying UPS when I just need a taxi ride. Yet all I can find are programs that either use 'presence' to shift other-sourced calls to my cell, or ways to use a Bluetooth headset when receiving a call on a PC. Has anyone found a way to use their desktop to make and receive calls through their cell via Bluetooth?"

199 comments

  1. Let me get this straight... by MikeV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You don't want to be bothered with carrying the phone with you (the easiest solution), and don't want to be bothered with having to run up or downstairs to answer the phone, so your idea is to what - answer it from your PC, which if you're away from it would STILL necessitate you having to rush to it up or downstairs to answer??? Just pocket the stupid phone and be done with it.

    1. Re:Let me get this straight... by Khris · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have to agree. It sounds like you're trying to reinvent the wheel when the problem can be solved by simply carrying your cell phone with you. It's not like it's a 50lb weight strapped to your back.

    2. Re:Let me get this straight... by Cylix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I just have a cordless base station which connects to my cell via blue tooth.

      It pairs with the phone when I get home and cordless phones are easy to get too.

      You can buy more too.

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    3. Re:Let me get this straight... by rednip · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the problem can be solved by simply carrying your cell phone with you. It's not like it's a 50lb weight strapped to your back.

      Do you carry your wallet all the time in your house? When I'm home, sometimes I don't even have pockets.

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    4. Re:Let me get this straight... by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

      Link?

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    5. Re:Let me get this straight... by Khris · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually yes, I do always carry my wallet with me.

    6. Re:Let me get this straight... by malkir · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you really want to imagine the general /. population naked?

    7. Re:Let me get this straight... by MikeV · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Solution A: Put on a pair of shorts with pockets or put the phone on the desk where you're working and relocate it when you move your operations to the TV room.

      Solution B: Spend hours looking for non-existent software to try to make some whizzbang blue-tooth solution work with your PC which is not really a solution since the PC is also stationary and you don't necessarily spend all your time at the PC if you have half a life.

      Solution C: Buy whizzbang extenders.

      The easiest is apparent. Unless you're a nudist, a pair fo shorts with pockets is something we all have. And unless we're physically challenged, we all have hands that can pick up the phone and transfer it to the next place we park our butts. And what's wrong with having to get up and run across the house anyway? For some that's probably the only exercise we get anyway - so a little running could actually do us some good.

    8. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I leave my wallet in my coat pocket, where it belongs (I don't need my wallet when I'm at home).
      Your phone is a way to *contact you*.

      If you don't want to be contacted, turn it off.
      If you want to be contactable, keep it with you.

      Yes, it really is that simple.

    9. Re:Let me get this straight... by zonky · · Score: 4, Informative

      google has suggested: http://www.cell2telgateway.com/

    10. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another reason to want this is something I ran into at college this year. My crappy t-mobile service does not work in any building on campus, including my room, so the phone has to stay on the window sill behind my raised bed, making picking up phonecalls inconvenient. I ended up using a bluetooth headset, but a computer solution would have been easier.

    11. Re:Let me get this straight... by ls671 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe the guy is ALWAYS on his PC when at home. Maybe he even falls asleep in front of the PC before waking up in the morning to go do his daily tasks ;-))

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    12. Re:Let me get this straight... by no1nose · · Score: 1

      We need some kind of bandoleer to hold cell-phones, remotes, tools, network adapters, etc... for those times when we don't have pockets.

    13. Re:Let me get this straight... by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      Ok Cell phone coverage is limited to certain parts of the house , maybe i want to put the thing on charge my wifi coverage is pretty good. better than the cell phone coverage.

      so it could be pretty cool to leave the handset somewhere with a good signal and use it remotely via my lan. It really shouldn't be that hard to achieve, plenty of bluetooth in car solutions around.

      The daft thing is i can use bluetooth to put my netbook online even use skype via the cell network. Why not use it for voice calls or forwarding sms to my netbook.

      As it happens i'm watching satellite tv on my netbook , sat box has a web page which lets me download a m3u file i can open with vlc. If I can easily watch a film live over my lan then a phone call should be easy.

      In practice probably not, but its an interesting problem, who cares you can carry the mobile around :)
       

    14. Re:Let me get this straight... by Khyber · · Score: 1

      I leave my wallet in my front pocket, even at home. See, guests might have that urge to go snooping through other's stuff - My wallet stays on my person unless I'm in bed or in water.

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    15. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      OfficeMax has a fairly basic "cell fusion" phone for $60.
      http://tinyurl.com/n4t25n

    16. Re:Let me get this straight... by LihTox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Cellphones generally have to be charged, and cellphones don't always work everywhere in the house.

    17. Re:Let me get this straight... by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 1

      Coat?! Who on earth wears a coat with any regularity?

    18. Re:Let me get this straight... by anagama · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Solution: Better guests.

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    19. Re:Let me get this straight... by imamac · · Score: 2, Informative

      1. Get Google Voice. 2. Set it to ring your cell and a Skype number. 3. No step 3. See how easy that was?

    20. Re:Let me get this straight... by impaledsunset · · Score: 1

      Yep. Keep the phone in your pocket and don't bother with anything else.

      But if you really want to, use Asterisk. Or use FreeSWITCH as suggested in another post. They would be easier to set up than looking for other solutions, they are not much resource intensive, so the comparison with UPS would be more acceptable if you could buy them for the price of the taxi. Not only they would do everything you need, but should you decide to extend your needs, you'll be able to do it with just a little change in the configuration. Both are decent solutions, and the fact that they are used for much more massive installations with gazillion of users shouldn't bother you. They're good for one user, too. It's not an overkill when it doesn't increase the cost.

    21. Re:Let me get this straight... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      I also carry my wallet and cellular phone, a programmable calculator, as well as a passport and handgun (with extra clips) at all times in the house. I use a standard ziplock plastic bag and a lanyard around my neck when I'm in the shower. Sometimes, my wife gets angry because it pokes her in the eyes when we're having marital relations, and it did cause a bit of a problem for my late first wife (may she rest in peace) when I once left the safety off. You have to be prepared should local law enforcement demand to see your papers, or if the need should arise to make a cellular call, solve a differential equation, prove my status as a natural-born US citizen, stop a charging Kodiak bear or retrieve a phone number from one of the many slips of paper in my wallet.

      You never know, and it's best to always be prepared.

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    22. Re:Let me get this straight... by Demena · · Score: 5, Funny

      Robert Heinlein is that you?

    23. Re:Let me get this straight... by Wamellx · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Another problem, Google Voice isn't open to the public yet.

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    24. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Solution: sell your house, live in box, wear coat always

    25. Re:Let me get this straight... by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      I take it you don't know much about kodiak bears...

      Unless that "handgun" of yours is a high powered Magnum, the bullet will bounce right of its #$*&$'ing head!

    26. Re:Let me get this straight... by Cylix · · Score: 3, Informative

      Panasonic has models with the integrated blue tooth link.

      They also do not cost 99$.

      I'm sure there are many products out there. My intention is not to advertise a product, but rather explain that such a device exists (with multiple competitors).

      The advantage of the particular model I have is that you can use it for both land line and blue tooth pairing, but the draw back is that only one line can be in use.

      The land line portion is actually connected to a VOIP analogue adapter. Now, it would be nice if I could simply have everything in one package, but it works well enough for now.

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    27. Re:Let me get this straight... by ortholattice · · Score: 2

      Just pocket the stupid phone and be done with it.

      My cell phone doesn't work in the basement, where I spend time at my workbench (or doing laundry) and have a landline extension. I also get only 2 signal bars in some parts of the house, and have to walk to a different part of the house when receiving a cell phone call there if I don't want chopped speech and unexpected dropped calls. Surely I'm not the only one with this problem. I haven't given up my landline, but if I do I'll need a solution like Cell2Tel or something to provide landline-type extension phones.

    28. Re:Let me get this straight... by Jstlook · · Score: 5, Funny

      Isn't it obvious? He uses the handgun to prove he's a natural-born US citizen.
      He uses the credit cards to stop a charging Kodiak bear, since they only maul tourists.
      Besides, with a cellular phone, a programmable calculator, a phillips screwdriver, and a short piece of string (or the lanyard), even Macgyver could encourage the most obstinate of bears to charge his wife, instead of him.

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    29. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another reason to want this is something I ran into at college this year. My crappy t-mobile service does not work in any building on campus, including my room, so the phone has to stay on the window sill behind my raised bed, making picking up phonecalls inconvenient. I ended up using a bluetooth headset, but a computer solution would have been easier.

      Have broadband? Get a phone from t-mobile that has WiFi, get an access point. Instant t-mobile coverage in your room. Works great with my Blackberry - and no, I don't have their data plan. But yes, minutes used over your WiFi do count on your plan (with most of their plans, anyway). That's a ripoff -- I pay for the bandwidth, then pay them for using it.

    30. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, cell coverage is weak in my basement, but UMA (unlicensed mobile access - WiFi in my case) coverage at my house is great on every floor. So, my Blackberry is happy to use that instead.

    31. Re:Let me get this straight... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      I haven't given up my landline, but if I do I'll need a solution like Cell2Tel or something to provide landline-type extension phones.

      ...or alternatively, some sort of cellphone signal relay or booster. There are several available, with big variations in price and usefulness depending on just how bad your signal is.

    32. Re:Let me get this straight... by MrCrassic · · Score: 0

      I have a God-like body, you insensitive clod!

    33. Re:Let me get this straight... by supernova_hq · · Score: 1, Funny

      A slashdotter with a wife...?

    34. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a nudist, no pockets.....

    35. Re:Let me get this straight... by topnob · · Score: 1

      why not sow a pocket into your pillow, then someone can't nick it while you are sleeping!! now all you need is a water proof bag... now its with you at all times!

    36. Re:Let me get this straight... by thegoldenear · · Score: 1

      And fry your balls?

    37. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pic of the "clips" for your handgun please(as I have never seen one). Or are they magazines?

    38. Re:Let me get this straight... by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "which if you're away from it would STILL necessitate you having to rush to it up or downstairs to answer???"

      What is this "away from it" of which you speak?

      I spend lots of time on the computer and such a solution would avoid having to reach for the phone, dig it out of my belly folds, etc. To be able to respond to calls with a mouse click, have all data/messages displayed on my laptop screen, etc would be genuinely useful.

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    39. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also carry a ... handgun (with extra clips) at all times in the house. ... stop a charging Kodiak bear or retrieve a phone number from one of the many slips of paper in my wallet.

      You never know, and it's best to always be prepared.

      I'm in Kodiak Alaska right now, and that handgun isn't going to do sh*t against the bears here!

    40. Re:Let me get this straight... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "I leave my wallet in my front pocket, even at home. See, guests might have that urge to go snooping through other's stuff - My wallet stays on my person unless I'm in bed or in water."

      Wow....that's kind of sad.

      I"d hope you could get better friends/guests. Hell, pretty much most of my friends I have in town actually have keys to my house. Right now I think I have about 5-7 keys to my place with friends around the country. There are at least 5+ more people I'd give them too if they wanted them. Especially friends that live outside the city and come to visit, that way if they fly in to the airport while I"m at work..they can take a cab and let themselves in, and leave they same way if need be.

      I have a decent number of people I trust pretty much implicitly.

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    41. Re:Let me get this straight... by JSC · · Score: 1

      If he'd use cash, the Kodiak wouldn't be able to charge. By using his credit cards, he's only enabling the poor bear. Next thing you know, we'll be hearing about credit help services for bears.

      "Do you have have more than $10,000.00 in credit card debt? Are threats of foreclosure endangering your family's cave leaving you to worry about where you will hibernate this winter?"

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    42. Re:Let me get this straight... by msi · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a God-like body, you insensitive clod!

      Shame its buddha

    43. Re:Let me get this straight... by green_shadow622 · · Score: 1

      Well, I myself would need an extention if my cellphone was my only phone, because in the basement, I get no signal. But, we have VOIP, so I'm covered. ;)

    44. Re:Let me get this straight... by inmytaxi · · Score: 1

      Try a studio apartment, makes my life simple enough.

    45. Re:Let me get this straight... by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1
    46. Re:Let me get this straight... by sorak · · Score: 1

      I can think of one scenario in which the OP's thinking would be valid (of course there could be many more). In my home, I can only pick up a signal in certain spots. I would say that reception is sketchy in 50% of the house, and non-existent in 25%. So, it may make sense, if I cared enough to do it, to find one spot where the phone gets good reception and either use a bluetooth headset, or a PC solution as a way of making and receiving calls when in dead zones, or, if the range isn't quite good enough, to put the phone in the one spot of the living room where I know I can get a signal, and not have to worry about dropped calls, if I wander into the dining room.

    47. Re:Let me get this straight... by mdm-adph · · Score: 1

      You mean "Hotei." :P

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    48. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Favorite thread ever.

    49. Re:Let me get this straight... by eth1 · · Score: 1

      You forgot:

      Solution D: Learn how to ignore the damn phone. Every cell I've ever seen comes with voicemail. You can check it the next time you go downstairs to get a drink/go to the bathroom/whatever.

    50. Re:Let me get this straight... by swillden · · Score: 1

      I also carry my wallet and cellular phone, a programmable calculator, as well as a passport and handgun (with extra clips) at all times in the house.

      Being prepared is good, but that's overkill. Leave the passport in a drawer near the back door.

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    51. Re:Let me get this straight... by hmar · · Score: 1

      Hephaestus?

    52. Re:Let me get this straight... by whoisjoe · · Score: 1

      Wow. I often don't even wear pants. Oh, wait, you're talking about being at home.

    53. Re:Let me get this straight... by argiedot · · Score: 1

      Ah ha, so you're formless?

    54. Re:Let me get this straight... by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Problem: Surrounded by Republicans.

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    55. Re:Let me get this straight... by Xerolooper · · Score: 1

      Link?

      Your wish is my command. Panasonic Phone W/Bluetooth to Cell linking I have one sitting on my desk right now. It also has a cool ring tone recording ability. You can use a Bluetooth headset with it etc.

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    56. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pic demonstrating those two terms are not the same goddamn thing, please. Yes, I'm quite ignorant of your firearm jargon, but I'd love to figure out just how much difference we are talking about, that leads to your rather snobbish post. I'd be willing to bet a good majority of "never owned a gun but saw a lot of cop shows on TV" average folks consider those words synonyms.

  2. no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no

  3. No, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then I haven't looked.

  4. Grand Central by cps42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I understand you dont want to run for your phone -- Bluetooth won't reach up and down stairs, so linking phone and computer are likely not going to solve your problem. Why not use Grand Central http://www.grandcentral.com/ and a Skype number? Have Grand Central ring your cell and your Skype number at the same time. Then whichever you're closest to, you can answer.

    1. Re:Grand Central by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Grand central isn't available to the general public yet.

      They have been opening it up to those on the waiting list over the last few days, but overall it's still a closed site.

    2. Re:Grand Central by chipschap · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You don't need to pay for a Skype number; get a Gizmo account. That works perfectly in conjunction with Google Voice (formerly Grand Central). Google Voice will ring your cell phone and your Gizmo SIP number simultaneously. This makes for a completely free solution (but people will have to learn to call your Google Voice number). You can also make free domestic calls from Google Voice, via Gizmo. Google Voice will ring your Gizmo SIP number and then connect your call. Of course, the other option, as many here have stated, is to put your phone in your pocket and be done with it.

    3. Re:Grand Central by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to say that I use this service. which is now voice.google.com and I love it. Obviously it is still not open to everyone but you can request an invite. I wish it would still let me invite people or else I would. But I have this one number ring my cell, my comp and my office. The downside to this is that if someone calls your cell phone directly it will still only ring your cell phone not all of them because you get a new number with Google Voice.

    4. Re:Grand Central by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

      I've had problems with simultaneous ring service with cellphones before; there are inevitably circumstances where the cell goes straight to voicemail and terminates the IP call. "Find me, follow me" works well though, ring the IP phone a few times, then switch to cell.

    5. Re:Grand Central by adolf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google Voice doesn't have that problem.

      It just rings all of the phones of my choosing, and if someone answers one of them, it talks to me: "You have a call from [caller's name]. Press 1 to answer, 2 to send to voice mail, 3 to listen in on the voice mail, or 4 to accept and record the call."

      Since neither my home answering machine nor my cell phone's voice mail know how to dial 1, calls don't get terminated if voice mail (or whatever) answers inappropriately. It'd work the same way with a Gizmo SIP extension, if I'd ever bothered to set one up . . .

      I don't remember if this was the default behavior, or something that I had to set up with Google Voice, but it works just fine for me.

    6. Re:Grand Central by chipschap · · Score: 1

      Google Voice has worked fine for me also, with cellphone, Gizmo, and office number, with no cross interference from pre-emptive voicemail answering. Interestingly enough, I also have an incoming Skype number (a "regular" phone number also called "Skype-In"), and it does *not* play well with Google Voice. If I am not signed in to Skype, then Skype voicemail picks up immediately and kills ringing on the other phones. There seems to be no Skype option to tell it to wait a few rings, or for that matter, to even turn off voicemail.

    7. Re:Grand Central by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vonage offers something similar

    8. Re:Grand Central by adolf · · Score: 1

      Why bother with Skype, if you've already got Google Voice, a cell phone, and Gizmo?

    9. Re:Grand Central by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why not use Grand Central?

      Oo, oo, I know I know! I know the answer to this one! Lookit:

      Because nobody can frickin GET a Grand Central account? I've been on the waiting list for that thing for about 2 years.

    10. Re:Grand Central by chipschap · · Score: 1

      Skype is a legacy thing.

    11. Re:Grand Central by NigelTheFrog · · Score: 1

      It's Google Voice now. You may need to re-apply.

    12. Re:Grand Central by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Solution: Put the cell phone in the middle of the stairway.

      Now you only need to run half the way up or down the stairs!

    13. Re:Grand Central by Mythrix · · Score: 1

      Hmm..... Why was that posted as AC? Did I accidentally check the "Post Anonymously" box? Is there a bug somewhere? Bah.

    14. Re:Grand Central by cellurl · · Score: 1

      I just tried to get google-voice. It says its full, try back later? When will it open again??

    15. Re:Grand Central by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      That's because it's now Google Voice - they removed everyone form the Grand Central list when the bought it, just didn't tell you ;-p

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    16. Re:Grand Central by jas203 · · Score: 1

      My Bluetooth link runs up and down stairs without any problems - the "base-station" is using a Class 1 radio and actually reaches further than my WiFi router for all the laptops in my house.

  5. No such functionality by Alex+Belits · · Score: 0

    Celphones, at least ones I have seen, do not allow initiating calls from a remotely attached computer or forwarding audio there. It may be possible to make a computer pretend to be a headset, however an easier solution would be to simply wear a Bluetooth headset with sufficient range.

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    1. Re:No such functionality by theeddie55 · · Score: 2, Informative

      look like a twat (wear a bluetooth headset all day) is not a good solution to anything, i'd have to stick with carrying the phone, if you tend to wear cloths without pockets, get a belt clip. If you're a naturist, get a lanyard to hang your phone on or stick the phone up your ass, there's always a way. (BTW that last bit was a joke, unless you feel that it's something you want to try. :-))

    2. Re:No such functionality by ttldkns · · Score: 2, Informative

      check out bluephone elite. its for the mac, but it does everything the OP wants

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    3. Re:No such functionality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Celphones, at least ones I have seen, do not allow initiating calls from a remotely attached computer or forwarding audio there.

      The devices certainly exist. Once my cell phone is paired with my car, I can see the phone's contact list on the car dashboard, place calls using the steering wheel controls and the phone call audio is routed through the car's speakers. Even the phone's voice recognition works via bluetooth.

      I haven't heard of this functionality for a pc, but there's no technical reason preventing it.

    4. Re:No such functionality by smoker2 · · Score: 1, Troll

      Bollocks. You can easily make calls using the phone from the computer. If a headset can do it, what makes you think a computer can't ? I can make calls with one touch from my earpiece. Or do you mean YOUR cellphone doesn't ? Get a decent phone or provider than.

    5. Re:No such functionality by Khyber · · Score: 2, Funny

      "(BTW that last bit was a joke, unless you feel that it's something you want to try. :-))"

      Yep, I can see it now. everyone's got their phone set to vibrate, and it's up their ass. War-dialing never seemed more tempting!

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    6. Re:No such functionality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical slashdot. Loads of posts lambasting the poster, and the post that contains a solution to his problem is stuck with a score of 3

  6. It's possible, but... by Burpmaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The BlueZ code to host the handsfree profile is fairly new and might be immature. And I don't know of a program to actually use it, so you might have to write your own client program.

  7. Use Forward by lunk · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just forward my calls to my asterisk instance with *72 on Verizon. *72111-222-3333.

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  8. Two options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Install an elevator so you don't have to run up and down stairs, or carry your phone with you.

    1. Re:Two options by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      There is no cellphone reception in the elevator. So how is he supposed to get back to his Flintstones?

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  9. 1989 called. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Informative

    They want their breezeblock-sized phones that run off a car battery back. Apparently you were supposed to go and buy a modern phone that you can carry with you.

    1. Re:1989 called. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll? Really? My cheap Samsung (European) GSM flip phone is tiny, with a battery that lasts for nearly two weeks of light to moderate usage.

      If you're moving around, outside or in, stick it in your pocket. If you're at home in one room for a while, take it out if you must. Unless you're wearing really tight jeans or leaning on your hip, I can't imagine you even notice it. I've seen a lot of absurdly petty Ask Slashdots, but this one takes the cake in creating a problem where none exists.

    2. Re:1989 called. by Dysproxia · · Score: 1

      What if my underpants don't have pockets?

    3. Re:1989 called. by quenda · · Score: 1

      Gordon, The 1990s called. Apparently they want back their joke about calls from a previous decade.

  10. From a previous /. thread... by EvanED · · Score: 1

    How 'bout something like the XLink or one of these similar products?

    This isn't what you're asking for, but it might actually be close to what you really want.

    (I haven't used anything like these, but a couple people said good things about the XLink one in a previous /. story this was mentioned in.)

    1. Re:From a previous /. thread... by nsayer · · Score: 1

      You didn't read the summary, did you?

      I could go buy an xlink or other Bluetooth-to-POTS solution, but that takes money for equipment.

    2. Re:From a previous /. thread... by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Wow, I sure missed that. Feel free to mod my original post into oblivion. ;-)

  11. HFP Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Take a look at HFP for Linux: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/linux/125997-hfp-linux-bluetooth-hands-free.html. I've been able to dial my phone over bluetooth, and use the desktop's mic and speakers for the call.

  12. HFP For Linux by kylegordon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You probably want to look into the No Hands project. It'll allow you to control your phone remotely over bluetooth from your PC. Aimed primarily at in-car situations, I guess it'll work just as well on the desktop.

    1. Re:HFP For Linux by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      Aspire one netbook running ubuntu jaunty belkin micro usb bluetooth adapter and an old motorolla v3

      sudo apt-get install subversion g++ autoconf libtool libspeexdsp-dev libasound2-dev libbluetooth-dev libaudiofile-dev libdbus-1-dev

      svn co https://nohands.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/nohands/trunk
      cd trunk/ ./autogen.sh ./configure
      make
      sudo make install
      sudo hciconfig hci0 scomtu 64:8
      hfconsole

      pair the phone and the laptop

      dial out using the netbook

      It works not sure of the audio device settings yet thou just took a few minutes to download build and install

      you can use checkinstall to build a deb package
      sudo apt-get install checkinstall
      and instead of make install use
      sudo checkinstall

      easy :)

    2. Re:HFP For Linux by anilg · · Score: 1

      Thanks.. simple interface.. works as advertized.. and exactly what the poster wanted. everyone tag "nohands" on this story

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    3. Re:HFP For Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Appropriation of others posts? I wouldn't expect that ./

      And yes, it works on desktop...
      Maybe a little bit buggy at the time, but nothing that can't be fixed...and improved. If only i had more time next few weeks
      i could get my hands dirty a little bit... (and in some kernel stuff i've been waiting for too).

  13. Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use a skype phone number, and set it to forward calls to your cell if you don't pick or you're not logged in.

    Seems much simpler.

  14. Three options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Carry your cellphone with you. Could be a problem if you like to roam the house naked.
    2. Get a landline. Could be a problem if you're allergic to landlines.
    3. Let the damn thing ring. Could be a problem if you have some compulsive need to be instantly at everyone's beck and call. In that case see a shrink.

    1. Re:Three options by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      I believe there may be a hybrid of option #2 and #3 out there... a box that allows you to connect your landlines to your cellphone.

    2. Re:Three options by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Er, #1 or #2. Duh.

  15. Why so complicated? by fluch · · Score: 3, Informative

    Place your battery charger at a convenient place and when ever you get home plug the phone into the charger and do NOT unplug it untill you leave the house. Then you have the same functionality as you had with a fixed line phone with a cord. You cannot misplace your phone anymore.

  16. OS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On OSX there is BluePhoneElite. http://mirasoftware.com/BPE2/

    Your big issue is Bluetooth range.

  17. You're over thinking it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You want to be able to answer your phone from your computer? That would indicate that you plan on being at/near your computer while you are home. Why not just leave your cell phone sitting on your desk? Since you would have to be there to answer it using the computer anyway you won't have to go any further than you would with your idea.

    You're trying to over think this one.

  18. Asterisk & chan_mobile by ewirt · · Score: 1

    Check out the Asterisk software, and specifically the "chan_mobile" extension. It allows you to use a cellphone (with bluetooth) as an "incoming" channel for a phone system, or to use the cellphone as an extension on the phone system. I believe that chan_mobile is included by default in the newest (1.6.x) version of the asterisk software.

    Asterisk has a fairly steep learning curve, so it will likely be a time consuming adventure to get it all working, but assuming the bluetooth on your phone supports it, it should allow you to do what you want. You will need to have a Linux computer that has bluetooth, runs the asterisk software, and you will also need an "FXS" port (can be a $15 internal card, or a $30 IP based one) that connects your home phones to the computer.

    The voip-info.org site and the asterisk-users mailing list are both invaluable if you are just starting out with asterisk.

    If diving into setting up your own asterisk server from scratch is too daunting, it may be easiest to try a prebuilt setup (such as Trixbox CE) and then following one of the guides for adding chan_mobile support to it. I can't personally say how involved this would be, since I've never used any of the pre-setup Asterisk systems.

    Good luck!

  19. Hunkasaurus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever Google Voice decides to launch, your problems will be solved.

  20. This thread is fucking stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, get with the now.
    You feel comfortable carrying your laptop with you, but your mobile is too much of a problem?

    Fucking wank American.

  21. Change Bluetooth Adapters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe change to a Class 1 Bluetooth adapter so you can put the phone anywhere. With the latest Widcomm/Broadcom Bluetooth stacks, you can answer calls on the PC. (Windows)

    At least with Sony Ericsson phones, you can make/answer calls with Bluetooth.

  22. My solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a solution called a "cell phone belt holster", and it cost me $14 at some store in the local mall. If my phone vibrates, no matter where I am inside or outside my house, I can answer it immediately.

    If the phone's NOT on my belt, it means I don't want to answer a call. When I had a landline, if it rang while I was brushing my teeth, it went to voicemail. My cell phone's no different.

  23. Same problem- so fixed it by iamtheprincess · · Score: 2, Informative

    We are not near the computer at all times sometimes out side working so not realistic to have the cell phone on you. and have to have it inside pluged in to charge. So I got a house phone with base unit and 3 portable phones. solved all problems karen http://www.iamtheprincess.com/

  24. Let me get this straight by Pokey.Clyde · · Score: 5, Informative

    You neither want to carry your phone with you, nor do you want to have to actually walk somewhere to answer it. Are you really that damn lazy? It's a damn phone. Stick it in your pocket and be done with it. Shit, do you need help tying your shoes, too? Get a helmet and go on about your life.

  25. Cellphone, home phone, sip and the freebox by orogorhotmail.com · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you live in France you get a my favorite ISP, (don t have any commercial relation but be one of his customer), free (appears at fbx.proxad.net on irc )who has what they call a freebox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebox), which is one of the inventor as what we know now as triple pay for internet, phone, and video, and they offer as a small but good geek bonus an option like a sip account, wifi, and redirections of your phone line linked to your adsl account to that sip account you own. now if you have a phone on which the sip works (bought a n85 a week ago), then you can do what as you want, have a single device. However note that peoples still have 2 numbers to contact you and you still have 2 outgoing choices for phone calls. They got other bonuses like tivo like recoder with HD channels, about 180 channels, and phone to landline to 60 countries for 30â, good news server retention, usualy, 6MB adsl, ipv6, Gb sized mail with zimbra and web account with apache mysql. (note that they had to inovate and redo the dslam infrastructure to do that), hoo too much goodies. I even like their geeky tv ads, and i mean by anyway , long time ago in france when isp were charging us for internet access on top of the phone comunication fee (which was way higher than now), and free was the first to have no charge on top of the phone fees, and that's where they got their name and then their infrastructure and budget to do what they do now. Now also be prepaired to wait for 3 months to get your dsl line, because the historic operator always make a few errors when switching the connecting to their lines.

    1. Re:Cellphone, home phone, sip and the freebox by pimpimpim · · Score: 1

      aren't they also the ones who offer additional tv packages with lots of anime series? Good to see that at least some companies understand the internet.

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  26. I went with a a hardware solution by midicase · · Score: 2, Informative

    I thought about these issues and ended up just buying a Panasonic bluetooth capable home phone: http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/telephones_central/bluetooth_phones/default.asp
    I paid about 100 USD.
    When the cell phone is in range the base acts just like a headset but relay's the call to any of the three cordless phone handsets around the house. My wife has even grown accustomed to it but there are a couple drawbacks. Weak bluetooth signal drains the battery, fast. No voicemail alert.
    I west so far as to port my land number to wireless and just leave the extra cell phone plugged in the charger near the base-station. I can't even see the cell or the base-station, just have the threee handset strategically placed around the house.

  27. Chose FreeSWITCH over Asterisk by diego.viola · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have been using FreeSWITCH, it does much more things than Asterisk and it's a lot more stable and flexible, check it out: http://www.freeswitch.org/

    Most VoIP providers such as Teliax Inc, Bandwidth.com, iCall, etc, are switching from Asterisk to FreeSWITCH because of it's flexibility, stability and features.

    "How does FreeSWITCH compare to Asterisk?"
    http://www.freeswitch.org/node/117

    1. Re:Chose FreeSWITCH over Asterisk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work with a few of the freeswitch guys and have seen one of their future works... it's impressive to say the least.

    2. Re:Chose FreeSWITCH over Asterisk by diego.viola · · Score: 1

      Yep, indeed... I also like the fact that you is extremely extensible, you can script it with whatever language you want. Freeswitch itself supports Lua, Perl, Python, etc. and you can call any dialplan application from it's event socket, the event socket has two modes: inbound and outbound, and you can let Freeswitch connect to your own script, ie: a ruby script, and control it in whatever way you want, it's amazing.

    3. Re:Chose FreeSWITCH over Asterisk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I'm sure you have no relation to the Freeswitch effort and are making these claims from unbiased personal experiences.

    4. Re:Chose FreeSWITCH over Asterisk by diego.viola · · Score: 1

      Yes I have, I have suggested tons of ideas, helped their users and their community and I'm currently writing a web application (billing application) that works with FreeSWITCH.

      I'm sure you are a coward, as your name says "Anonymous Coward", login with your real user and come back if you are enough of a man.

    5. Re:Chose FreeSWITCH over Asterisk by mercutioviz · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'd call Diego's personal experiences quite biased. His intro into the FreeSWITCH community was rather rough, but because FS did a better job in his scenario than Asterisk he scored points at his job and has been quite the cheerleader ever since.

      For posterity's sake here's an interesting email thread from a suggestion Diego made, namely that YAML might be a better solution than XML for FS configs: http://lists.freeswitch.org/pipermail/freeswitch-users/2008-June/004019.html

      (BTW, when he suggested that we all thought he was nuts... in fact, we occasionally still think he's nuts but then again most of us in #freeswitch @ irc.freenode.net are a bit crazy.)

      I can attest to Diego doing a good job of helping new ones get up and running, especially when they speak Portugese as a first language.

      Just my $0.02 - do with it as you will.
      -MC

    6. Re:Chose FreeSWITCH over Asterisk by diego.viola · · Score: 1

      Oh the infamous YAML email ;)

      Yeah that just showed how great the community is and how skilled Anthony Minessale is as a programmer, I still can't believe he made that module in just 3 hours after never hearing of what YAML was *respect*.

      Now after using FreeSWITCH for a year, I understand why XML is a good thing on the project, it makes things very dynamic, flexible and easily extensible, it also makes things easier to build things on top of FreeSWITCH, I think the XML is one of the stronger points of FreeSWITCH.

      If you are new to VoIP or are looking for a rock solid telephony platform, chose FreeSWITCH, you will never look back :-).

  28. So, you're a cheap consumer? by holophrastic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You have a free solution -- putting your phone in your pocket, which is actually easier than leaving it somewhere.
    You have a convenient solution -- you've listed a system that gives you the pots.
    You have an extravagent solution -- you can go ups.

    And you still aren't happy?!

    Write your own, and stop whining. I'd kill to have those three solutions for any of my problems: do little, spend money, or get a lot. You aren't happy with any of them?!

  29. Carry the phone with you by Ernesto+Alvarez · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I find it amazing that you're asking for a solution that requires no effort to set up, lets you answer the phone everywhere and does not require any investment. It looks like you're asking for the impossible. However the solution is very simple:

    CARRY THE DAMN PHONE WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES

    If you don't want to carry it, that's what extensions are for. You're asking how to convert your PC in an extension. Also, you'll need to rush to the extension (or your PC, and let me tell you that buying an extension is cheaper than buying a PC) every time it rings.

    You're asking for the ultimate solution in telecommunications. It doesn't exist yet.

    1. Re:Carry the phone with you by SheeEttin · · Score: 1

      He could nail the phone to his head. That'd satisfy all his conditions.

    2. Re:Carry the phone with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nails are not free, you insensitive clod!

    3. Re:Carry the phone with you by Spatial · · Score: 1

      You're asking for the ultimate solution in telecommunications. It doesn't exist yet.

      Wrong. The 'Off' button is already invented.

  30. Google Talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this would require that you either have a landline or voip setup in your house, but check out google talk
    http://www.google.com/talk/

  31. Convergence by ivoras · · Score: 1

    It's not very imaginative to conclude that the ultimate goal of these technologies is to achieve convergence between the various devices, to seamlessly use them all from either one of them.

    My own short-term wishlist is:

    • Store personal information, like the address book, possibly e-mail and other messages, etc. mirrored (synced in real time) between my mobile phone and a datacenter in a bunker somewhere safe. I carry my mobile phone around with me all the time, so every desktop should just pick up the data from it. OTOH, I also need a secure backup if I lose it. Encryption can solve most of the issues here.
    • Have a high-speed low-range wireless link between my desktop and my phone when I put it on the desk (or are somewhere in the room). By "high-speed" here I mean "enough to transfer data such as the mentioned address book, e-mail, etc." in real-time back and forth. 54 Mbit/s looks "good enough" for this purpose. I imagine something like Bluetooth on steroids, only less sucky, probably using IPv6 rather than some internal ad-hoc packet formatting. I want the mobile phone to be a regular network node and that's where Bluetooth fails. I also don't want for the phone batteries not to be excessively drained from using the link, so WiFi also fails.
    • If the mobile phone CPU is strong enough (and it looks like the new 500 MHz+ mobile phones are bordering "enough"), run some basic applications on the mobile phone but access it via "remote desktop" (e.g. VNC, RDP, whatever) from the desktop. Even better, use something like VMWare and similar applications do and make "seamless" integration between the windows of the mobile phone and the "real" desktop, with smart sharing of specific services like audio and phonecalls made from the desktop. Of course, I don't want to run big or CPU-intensive applications on the phone, but I imagine something with the capabilities of Word 95 (remember, it ran on 486 machines with 100 MHz and 4 MB of RAM) would be fine.
    • Have a long-range low-bandwidth connection for general Internet access (of course, with fallback to the low-range high-bandwidth one when in range), capable of relatively (from 2009. point of view) low-bandwidth tasks like streaming standard-def YouTube videos, city-wide.

    This is what I think I need, YMMV. Much of these points are very very near of being done already. The major thing that's holding the whole concept back is that the cell-phone manufacturers (or probably more probably, the telcos) insist that the phones don't run a general purpose OS that would make it all possible with custom applications.

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    -- Sig down
  32. Unpopular Answer by thpdg · · Score: 1

    For Windows, most of the Bluetooth dongles I've tried come with the profile and drivers to use the PC as a Bluetooth speakerphone for a paired PC.
    Is there such a possibility for Linux?

    --

    -Patrick

    "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

  33. HFP for Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are interested you can try HFP for linux ( http://nohands.sourceforge.net/ )
    I seem to have some problem with hearing my mobile while i'm at computer with headphones... so it's always nice to have
    an On Screen Display to show me of incoming calls at least.
    And for all those ./ers who are just discussing why you want that solution instead of giving hints, maybe because they don't know the solution i've to say... grow up!

    good luck with it!

  34. Panasonic has a solution for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know where the OP has been shopping around, but Panasonic makes a Bluetooth based DECT home phone system. Just place the cell phone next to the main unit. And all incoming/outgoing calls go through the handsets. And you can add more handsets for each room of the house. Last time I checked, Fry's Electronics (brick and mortar stores) were selling these for around USD$75 for a starter kit.

  35. Easy Cheep Way by WillRobinson · · Score: 1

    Go buy a flipping magic jack, and call forward your cell. Plug your old pots phones into the magic jack and done. for 20$ a year or so. That cheep enough??? Unlimited long distance too.

    1. Re:Easy Cheep Way by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      I've got a Dlink VTR unbundled from vonage (I never had a vonage contract) plugs into my router and can be used to provide 2 lines ,used it with a Pabx 16 extensions (free landline calls) (replace a landline and use adsl or cable), even works (just) with mobile broadband).

      theres a few similar boxes around that don't even need hacking to work.
      still not ideal people have the mobile number and call him, voip requires a 2nd number or him paying to get his calls forwarded to his voip number.

      now getting the call from the mobile and forwarding using sip could be ideal.
      How about using an old mobile phone no contract sat at his house routed via his server to his location anywhere in the world. That vtr box of mine doesn't care where its connected on the net, with an access number which is local (free) for my friends and family to use via regular pots.

  36. The Easy Answer by Quothz · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a low-cost, public-domain solution I use. It's called "not answering my phone". If I'm working at home or anticipating a call, I keep my phone nearby. Otherwise, I feel no special obligation to answer it. If you have to worry about emergency work/family calls, assign special ringtones to potential callers-with-emergencies. If you are the sort of person that absolutely must answer it regardless, then simply smoke lots of pot until you're no longer that sort of person. Easy!

    1. Re:The Easy Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, no offense, but I actually have people that I want to talk to even when it's not an emergency. I call them 'friends'. Only on /. could 'just don't answer' be considered Insightful.

    2. Re:The Easy Answer by Quothz · · Score: 1

      Only on /. could 'just don't answer' be considered Insightful.

      I'm'a tempt irony by agreeing with you. If it makes you feel any better, I typed that with my tongue firmly in cheek. I s'pose there's a grain of truth in every joke, tho': It's silly to feel obligated to always answer the phone.

  37. Dock n' talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp

  38. windows mobile to XP (and Vista) by blackest_k · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.inspectmygadget.com/2007/04/30/use-your-computer-to-receive-your-mobile-phone-calls-via-the-hands-freeheadset-profile-using-bluetooth-wm5/

    Ok theres a windows solution for windows mobile phones (it looks like it should work for other mobiles).

    now who can find a linux solution.

  39. Ignores reality of houses by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In a number of houses, if you go in the basement the cell signal may die off. Just having it with you doesn't mean you'll always get calls... that's why something like a cell phone docking station that can stay up where signal is strongest makes sense.

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    1. Re:Ignores reality of houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Femtocell or WiFi UMA would solve that problem, assuming you have broadband and neither your phone nor broadband service provider is stuck in the last millennium. Some providers even offer unlimited calling on the UMA service (well, unlimited for a flat monthly fee, anyway).

    2. Re:Ignores reality of houses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's not invent a new problem the OP didn't specify. Besides, there are edge cases that could disqualify almost any solution. It doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to work.

    3. Re:Ignores reality of houses by jbarr · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how well they work, but there are some "cell phone booster" devices that claim to boost the signal. They'll set you back a couple hundred bucks, but supposedly, they help eliminate just the problem you describe.

      --
      My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
  40. Here's an easy solution.. by SuperCharlie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Kids less than ~12 yrs old. It goes like this.. GET ME MY PHONE :)

    1. Re:Here's an easy solution.. by DanJ_UK · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe the OP was looking for a cost effective solution that doesn't require extra equipment. I believe (don't quote me on it), that children have a substantial overhead in terms of cost, time and patience.

      --
      - Dan
    2. Re:Here's an easy solution.. by DRACO- · · Score: 1

      If you have kids, you wont have to worry about incoming calls and finding the cellphone. The cellphone will be attached to the child if you dont get them their own and incoming calls will just get ignored or sent to voicemail.

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  41. You are now in the dictionary ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Under the entry "educated idiot".

    You're lucky I'm not in charge, because if I was you'd be taken away in the night for a few years of
    hard labor, after which I am willing to bet you'd quit worrying about problems you don't even have.

    Now excuse me while I PUKE at the thought of your existence.

  42. ubuntu gammu sms gateway by blackest_k · · Score: 1

    http://john.mcclumpha.org/linux/Build_your_own_SMS_gateway_with_Ubuntu_Linux_and_Gammu/

    no voice calls but that might be interesting an ubuntu sms gateway.

  43. simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    use ooma..one time hardware purchase..

  44. Bluetooth Cordless Phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an old Uniden ELBT595- it pairs to a cellphone as a handsfree and you can use it like normal after that. Still on Uniden's site, but I don't see it at BestBuy's anymore- and its only single extension. Going to Telephones/Cordless/Bluetooth on Bestbuy's site came up with a couple DECT expandable setups - AT&T TL92278 and Panasonic KX-TH1212B as examples. Seems like what you are after to me.

    LTGTFY - http://tinyurl.com/lq3pml

  45. Asterisk... by lordsid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Congratulations you answered your own question in the very same post you posed it in.

    There is no "buying" asterisk, it's open source. At most you will need an FXS card/box. The FXS card allows you to ring your house phones. If you want to deal with a real land line you need an FXO card.

    Using the FollowMe feature in Asterisk will give you exactly what you ask for. In all you shouldn't have to spend more then $300 on the card and computer. Best part is you can keep using the same house phones you've had all along. (SIP phones cost $90+)

    Your ideal setup would be a cellphone with a friends and family package where you pick a number you get unlimited calls to. Setup a SIP account through one of the many services. This will give you a callable number. Pick this as your number in your friends and family package. Connect the asterisk box to the sip account. You can now call home to your asterisk box over the internet for free, you can then call out again using your asterisk box to any other sip user for free or to any other landline for a small charge depending on the service (typically $0.01/min).

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    1. Re:Asterisk... by vlm · · Score: 1

      (SIP phones cost $90+)

      I also used to believe that. Technology and mass production have dropped prices dramatically. Back when asterisk was a "new idea to me", seems like at least a decade ago, sip phones were hundreds of dollars, so I said, forget about asterisk.

      I was surprised when I priced out ip phones a couple years ago.

      http://www.voipsupply.com/gs-200

      $54 each plus shipping.

      This is by no means a stripped down phone. It has most features you'd expect in a desk phone. I have no connection with Grandstream or Voipsupply other than being a happy customer w/ three of those phones, and absolutely no problems whatsoever, they just work...

      Somewhere in my office, I have the remains of a bulk pack of ATA (analog telephone adapters) that I bought on sale for something like $50 for five. You have to shop carefully to spend less on the ATA than on the long CAT-5 cables to connect them. The "worst buy" $50 25 foot cat-5 cable is a bit unreasonable to connect a $10 ATA that has a $15 analog phone plugged into it. For testing, experimentation, and educational purposes, a couple $10 ATAs, 7 foot patch cables, and $5 walmart phones works pretty well.

      --
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  46. Want HAL or Minerva (or her sister Athene) by rcpitt · · Score: 1
    OK - so I plug my cell into the USB dongle that charges it - now I want the phone to be answered by the AI in my machine - and filter the call: pass it through via the speakers and microphones in the house, record a message, or call the FTC/CRTC for the voice spammer.

    So I want all the functionality of turning the phone into a demarc point to the cell service - so I can call out, answer, ignore or whatever - but through the AI (penguin powered) in my home.

    There's a product in there somewhere!

    --
    Been there, done that, paid for the T-shirt
    and didn't get it
  47. pleasurable solution by ragutis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Solution 1:
    Wear clothes
    Wear cellphone

    Solution 2, if you don't want to wear clothes.

    Acquire velcro cable ties

    Attach above to cell
    Set cell to vibrate

    Call friends, leave messages.

    Use velcro to attach cell to proper body part

    enjoy.

  48. My Suggestion by webheaded · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Take your cell phone and put it on your computer desk. This is the most retarded question I've ever seen.

    --
    "Those who would sacrifice essential liberties for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - BenF
  49. why? by speedtux · · Score: 1

    Bluephone Elite for the Mac kind of does what you are asking for. But why? A cell phone is actually better at making phone calls than a desktop PC, desktop microphone, and desktop speakers.

  50. you are asking such a backwards question?!? by crispytwo · · Score: 1

    In all seriousness... it shouldn't be, "can I share my cell phone with other devices?", it should be "may I use several devices with my phone number?" Notice, it is the phone number that is at issue here, not the "talkie" part.

    The simple answer is yes, but not the way you want to. And no, because the cell phone company will likely not participate... yet. The cell phone companies don't want to provide just "data service" since they wouldn't be able to severely bill you for the extra features on your phone.

    I see that in an ideal world, i.e. the one we don't live in, we would have data access on our phones and that's it... thus voice communication would be just something that your "cell" device can do.

    Today, the easiest way to accomplish what you want here is to use VoIP.

  51. Simple Solution by niteshifter · · Score: 1

    Duct tape.

    Just tape the damn phone to you, like under an arm. Then you won't be bothered with having to keep the phone with you. Just position it so that the charging jack is accessible, plug it in while you sleep.

    Now wasn't that easy, quick and simple?

    On a less sarcastic note: You do know that nearly all cell phones use low power BT and that the 30m range is for absolutely perfect conditions? That in the real world of walls / wiring, metal clad big appliances and ambient noise that range can be as low as scant (single digit) meters?

  52. Similar to the unpopular Answer by PapaSmurph · · Score: 1

    I've been looking for something exactly like that, but for my Windows Vista notebook, that way, I can use my notebook mics and speakers as a hands free phone. HFP for Linux would be great, but not being much of a Microsoft code monkey, I doubt I could get it to work.

    Patrick (thpdg (519053)), any ideas if the software for those dongles would work with the "HP Integrated Module with Bluetooth 2.0 Wireless Technology" in my notebook?

    Anyone?

    Anyone?

    1. Re:Similar to the unpopular Answer by PapaSmurph · · Score: 1

      Bueller?

      Bueller?

  53. Encrypted cellular by dyfet · · Score: 1

    I had experimented with pairing a PC bluetooth with a cell phone. Mostly though I was experimenting with establishing a ZRTP-like session over bluetooth audio to do secure end-to-end media over the cellular network, rather than the application proposed here.

  54. AT&T DECT 6.0 by AvenNYC · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I bought the AT&T DECT 6.0 from best buy not too long ago once my old land line died. It comes with 2 handsets (a base with answering service, and additional charger and handset). You can add as many more handsets as you want (I'm sure there is an upper limit...like 10 or 12).

    http://telephones.att.com/telephones_ui/phone_store/dsp_product.cfm?itemID=3930&parent=23655

    Sure I had to put some gaff tape over all the AT&T Logos, but small price to pay. When I walk in my house, my iphone cuts in automagically and all calls ring through to the home handsets. The only downer is that it pulls the caller ID information and compares it to the internal phonebook, and not the phonebook in your cell phone. If a number is in your phone but not in your AT&T phone it will just show you the number on the ID, and not the name. When I walk out of the house, by the time i'm down the block I'm into normal cell operation again. Haven't had any problems with it at all. Looks sleek too.

  55. Hey there, Third of Five. by rantingkitten · · Score: 1

    You are not a Borg. You do not have to be plugged into the collective hive mind at all times. Come home from work, put the phone on your desk / table / kitchen counter, and leave it there. If it rings while you're away, call the person back if you must.

    Or just leave the thing in your pocket. I'm "old school" enough to still have a Razr, which is thin enough to keep in my back pocket at all times without my even noticing it's there.

    Yes, I realise that wasn't the solution you were seeking, but you are asking for a solution to a "problem" that seems ridiculous to most people, judging from the commentary. If you want to get serious answers you're probably going to have to give us some context or rationale, because otherwise your question seems, well, let's just say "eccentric".

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  56. Just think about it by tengu1sd · · Score: 1
    One option is simply to carry your phone around

    Or you could set up a Vonage line and have it simultaneously ring your cell. I worked at home for 4 years and took advantage of this. Any calls to my home number were promptly answered.

    Or just wait for Google Voice

  57. How long until general availability? by tepples · · Score: 1

    1. Get Google Voice.

    From the web site: "Google Voice is currently available by invite only." How long did it take Google to get, say, Orkut to the point where invite codes were no longer needed? Google's blog claims that Google began activating accounts on June 25, 2009, but will the invite backlog become cleared before November 2009?

    1. Re:How long until general availability? by DRACO- · · Score: 1

      I wasnt an early adopter but I received my invite last week to google voice. Got a pretty nifty phone number too, all the number series are local exchange numbers anyone could remember and the last 4 digits spell drac

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  58. Thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wrote the question, and I just want to thank everyone who kindly suggested that I just carry the phone with me.
    I know it will seem hard to believe, but that never occurred to me! So thank you! Slashdot comes through again!!!

  59. bluetooth? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Informative

    In any case, the fact that bluetooth adds another load to your phone battery besides the usual cell coverage, it occurs to me that any solution involving this might leave the device tied to a charger too much to be useful. I agree with the earlier poster: just carry the phone with you.

    On the other hand, while we (may) no longer need a POTS phone, it's usually simple enough to just connect a VOIP phone, with as many extensions as you need. Most people are perfectly capable of coping with you having more than one phone number.

    1. Re:bluetooth? by grub · · Score: 2, Informative


      In any case, the fact that bluetooth adds another load to your phone battery besides the usual cell coverage

      Simple: put your phone charger near the bluetooth-enabled base station. A nightly charge should be plenty.

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    2. Re:bluetooth? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      A nightly charge should be plenty.

      It would indeed be enough to keep the battery alive for shortish periods of time, but there is still the issue that current Li-ion batteries have a life roughly equivalent to the number of charge cycles they go through. Partial charges are reputed to count as much as full charges in this regard.

      I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I've had a lot of bum batteries lately...

  60. Re:Grand Central is voice.google.com by vaporland · · Score: 1

    they changed the name. they're sending out invites now.

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  61. Solution seeking another problem by fletchzip · · Score: 0

    The limited range of bluetooth is going to impact just how far the phone can be from your PC. Up and downstairs are exactly the type of barriers that bluetooth struggles to overcome.

  62. When i first read that... by pjr.cc · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Like many others, when i first read it i thought "you lazy cheap SOB". Then it was "wait, he wants to carry around his computer rather then his phone? HOW BIG IS THE F**KING PHONE?"....

    But, it is an interesting techo question in the "can it be done" basket. I've tried "nohands" myself previously and wasnt overly excited by it, it would be nice to be able to walk in my home, stick my phone on charge, have it associate with the server at home which can then route my calls in through the ata and out to the pots phones i have (perhaps it could even do the skype ones too). It would be nice for it to figure out the mobiles plugged in and route out-going ones through there as well (given that work pays for my mobile).

    I think alot of people missed the "if tiny a piece of hardware can be a handsfree kit, why cant a laptop" idea behind it all. In all fairness the geeks here on slashdot (i include myself) do alot of things because we can, not because we should and because its intriguing to the simple geekly instincts within us. This kind of question certainly qualifies

    just my $0.02

    1. Re:When i first read that... by Nikker · · Score: 1

      I think it's a cool idea, if you are able connect your cell phone to your network it does give the ability to use that service from applications(Astrix, IVR, Call Branching). It also makes it easier for other people in the house to call out with out having to ask you for your cell, as long as your cell is close to the blue tooth receiver. At the end of the day once you get all this set up grabbing a VOIP number will be too easy to ignore, you could even swap your cell # with the VOIP # having important calls routed to your new number. But for a band aid solution it would make a neat temporary fix.

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  63. The BT stack can do this by elad · · Score: 1

    My depressingly cheap and tiny USB dongle comes with a bluetooth stack that allows you to do just that - connect to the phone via BT, dial, and use PC's speaker and mic as the BT headset.

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  64. The obvious solution.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The solution to this is very obvious.. just get a small cell phone and carry it with you everywhere. Why would you want to route your calls from a small portable device to a big desktop computer? It makes no sense. You would still have to run around to your computer/laptop when you need to answer a call. Just carry a small cell phone.
    And by the way, why would you use a Bluetooth headset to connect to your PC to answer calls, when you can connect the Bluetooth headset directly to your phone?

  65. This is why ENUM was invented by Compukid · · Score: 1

    This is why ENUM was invented. This is roughly how it works: 1. Convert the phone number to a DNS query. 2. The result is the preferred way to connect to the user. And DNS can change quite fast so it's dynamic :) EC500 on Avaya phones also has some interesting features. More details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENUM

  66. Bacchus? Ganesh? Kali? by Kupfernigk · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...I think you need to elucidate.

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  67. Femtocell? by GotenXiao · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since the problem seems to be one of coverage (i.e. his basement gets none) a better solution (that would allow him to keep the phone with him) would be to install a femtocell in his house so he can get coverage. Vodafone are launching them in the UK, people like IP Access (http://www.ipaccess.com/picocells/index.php) produce them.

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  68. Hands-free and Remote-SIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bluetooth already has profiles for exactly this use case...just about every car out there that has Bluetooth support implements the Hands-free and Remote-SIM profiles.
    Those allow the car kit to take over call handling from the phone. Think of the phone as becoming just a Bluetooth voice modem.
    Hands-free lets you use the car's mic and speakers and Remote-SIM gives the car kit full address to your address book to access the missed/last-dialled/etc calls list, do address book searches and do calling ID/name lookups.

    The down side: Linux has been very slow in embracing Bluetooth, IMHO of course...and support's very patchy. Focus seems to have been on either just phone tethering or OBEX file send/receive. SCO/voice/audio/A2DP and the more advanced profiles seem to be mostly ignored/neglected which is sad. A well-intregrated set of Bluetooth profiles would be really awesome (not that Windows does an amazingly better job on integration)

    Andries

  69. Re:Bjorg yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just embed the phone in your brain ..become a Bjorg.

  70. Is this for real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You must live in an awful small space. Doesn't Bluetooth only go 30ft? Put it in your pocket or belt clip (or velcro it to your chest) and quit whining.

  71. If you don't like the answer change the question! by msh317 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're thinking about the problem in far to conventional way - change the question - what you need is a number that friends, family, colleagues, business, etc can reach you. Your cell phone is just one of many systems designed to carry voice. A great example of reversing this problem is the former "Grand Central" now "Google Voice". (Note: I have it under good authority that if you are on the waiting list an additional one million new subscribers will be added as soon as July) There are dozens of other one number systems - Google Voice is just free. Now you have a single number of which your cell phone is just one of many ways to answer or place calls. PS - For those of you keeping up with the Skype/SIP discussion - Skype has agreed to begin providing interconnection to commercial SIP providers. They have been testing this for about a year and I can attest that the system works very good. I've been able to place calls to and from my Skype account from any phone including my Cell.

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  72. Fattie by elnyka · · Score: 0, Troll

    The problem: when I am home I don't want to carry my phone on my person, AND I don't want to have to run (possibly up or down stairs) to answer a call.

    No wonder we are nation of fucking fatsoes and pencilnecks. I don't carry my cell phone with me at home, but that doesn't stop me from running, what, 20-30 feet, to get it when it rings.

    Seriously, this was a lame excuse to throw some money @ technology for the hell of it while moving one step closer to be one of those Wall-e space fatties on floating platforms. Amazing that you even call that "a problem" .

  73. Buddha is not a God by Kupfernigk · · Score: 1

    Look up Buddhism. Judaeo-based monotheism is not typical of the world's religions, in fact despite its important role in the development of Western civilisation, in some ways it's remarkably backward.

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  74. Asterisk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    install asterisk 1.6 and configure chan_mobile

  75. Re:If you don't like the answer change the questio by z_gringo · · Score: 1

    If only google voice would allow termination to a SIP number, it would be a great solution.

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  76. Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pull the battery when you get home.

  77. I went with a cheaper hardware solution by Bugs42 · · Score: 1

    They're called "pockets", and many articles of clothing have them.

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  78. Use SIP telephony! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi,

    Here in Sweden, there are several landline/mobile operators using VoIP. I have Megaphone as a telephony provider (www.megaphone.se), a VoIP box from Linksys connected to my fiber access at home and a Nokia E51 (has a built-in SIP client, which works with both WiFi and 3G+). From my operator I have 2 SIP accounts linked to the same phone number (a landline numer). So I can pick up all calls from either the cell or one of my landline phones.

    Advantages:
    - One number, answer from any phone.
    - CHEAP calls abroad: about 0.01Euro/min within Europe + the data traffic on 3G if I use the cell (add 0.03E/min). They also have a plan with "unlimited" 3G (up to 1GB I believe) for 20E/month. [Prices are actually in Swedish Crowns, 1E is about 10Kr]

    Drawbacks:
    - Megaphone does not guarantee that there is enough bandwidth on their 3G+ (HSPA@7.2Mbps) network, so the sound can be terrible. In such cases, I call back using the GSM number.

    Stephane

  79. It's all about integration. by ooglek · · Score: 1

    I have a home phone (Vonage), a cell phone (Sprint), a cell phone extender/femto-cell (Samsung Airave), a VoIP phone connected to an Asterisk server, Skype, Adium, and a Mac Pro.

    I work from home, so much of my time is spent in front of my computer. My kids are home from time to time taking a nap, and my wife is at home fairly often as well, so I wear headphones almost constantly so I can listen to music and other beeps and boops from my random communication applications without bothering others, and at a low enough level where I don't get hearing loss, but I also don't hear the outside world.

    Although the poster asked only about one solution, I can see where they are getting at -- Telecom integration.

    It would be convenient to be able to answer all of my various incoming communications -- cell, land line, Skype, SIP and VoIP -- on my desktop. It would also be convenient to be able to place calls from my desktop to others via whichever route I choose -- Skype, Jajah, Google Voice, SIP, cell phone, land line -- or to be able to build a little LCR (Least Cost Routing) db that chooses for me, based on criteria I can set. Having access to all of those pieces in a desktop format would enable me to do some cool stuff, and also allow providers I use to add new features via an API to make communications even easier.

    As it is now, in theory this is all possible, but no one has come up with an easy way to integrate it all. Sure, there are hacks like Asterisk, but then you have to run an additional server or Virtual Machine, and it isn't for the feint of heart. A desktop app that could do this would be very slick, but there is still the difficulty of integration. Is it a single device which handles your cell and land lines? Can you transfer a call in Skype through your desktop to your home phone line, so you can take a call in the bathroom? Maybe I need to leave and want to continue talking on Jajah but transfer to my cell.

    It just doesn't yet exist, and if it does, it is difficult to do.

  80. Get a smaller house by javajedi · · Score: 1

    I've never lived anywhere that I could be in the house but not within ear-shot of/easy walk to my cell phone. Maybe you should consider getting a smaller house. :)

  81. You don't get it by microbee · · Score: 1

    He is ALWAYS with his pc while at home. And his couch. And TV.

    What kind of life are YOU having at home?

  82. too big? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly your home is too large - find somewhere smaller...

  83. Get another one... by Tug3 · · Score: 1
    I had a bit of an similar issue.

    I wanted to have my mobile to come in two sizes. The BIG one for email, websurfing, and all that. The small one that fits in my jeans' front pocket, confortably. - The solution was two phones. Obviously. But I didn't want to swap the SIM-card every time.

    MultiSIM to the rescue! - Luckily the operators in Finland finally started to sell this multi SIM-service. Basically I have two lines that share one number. If both phones are on, they both ring. First one to answer gets the call. When I call out, they both are billed as my primary. (I can actually make double billing by calling out with both phones at once, if I really wanted to.)

    Only problem is the SMS. They only go to the primary SIM. I can send naturally with both, but only really receive with one.

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