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Re:Is there a non-SCO mirror of the SCO kernel RPM
Right here. Knock yourself out.
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Hmm, can I sue SCO now?Just finished a quick bit of research and found a couple of interesting things...
1) I can download Caldera OpenLinux ISO images from here.
2) The SCO "register to access downloads" feature is a bunch of crap. Wander on over to Caldera's FTP site and download the source RPMs at will, the legal notice notwithstanding.So, what happens if I install OpenLinux 3.1.1 workstation on my box at home (it is free and I have a spare machine I'm not using) and SCO closes the Caldera website down? If I go to SCO and say I need the sources, they ask "Are you a Caldera customer, I say, 'No, I am using a free downloaded version of OpenLinux 3.1.1' and they reply "You need to buy a SCO Linux License.", I think I have the grounds at that point to sue them for violation of the GPL's terms of distribution since they cannot deny me the sources on a product they distributed just because I didn't buy it.
Also, here is a fun page on SCO's own website OpenLinux Supplemental Open Source Software. Hmm, does IBM need some more ammunition provided by SCO themselves?
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Reliant? Siemens?
In paragraph 75, it admits it "licenses and distributes" UnixWare, "OpenServer", "SCO Manager," and "Reliant HA", but "denies infringement".
Didn't Siemens (now Fujitsu-Siemens) acquire or market Reliant? Whilst on Siemens: According to this, SCO and Siemens are quite happily working together, while according to this headline, Siemens thinks SCO blows out of their arse. Anyone has more info? -
Re:This is totally irrelivant, but:
Here is another "irrelevant" doc from Caldera's site. Check out the 1 Nov 2003 remark.
ftp://ftp.caldera.com/pub/LTP/Legal_Notice:
NOTICE: SCO has suspended new sales and distribution of SCO Linux until
the intellectual property issues surrounding Linux are resolved. SCO will,
however, continue to support existing SCO Linux and Caldera OpenLinux
customers consistent with existing contractual obligations. SCO offers at
no extra charge to its existing Linux customers a SCO UNIX IP license for
their use of prior SCO or Caldera distributions of Linux in binary
format. The license also covers binary use of support updates distributed
to them by SCO. This SCO license balances SCO's need to enforce its
intellectual property rights against the practical needs of existing
customers in the marketplace.
Dear SCO customer,
Starting on November 1, 2003, SCO will institute new procedures
for you to access binary updates and source rpms. If you own an SCO
licensed copy of Linux (such as such as OpenLinux, eDesktop, etc.), it
will be necessary for you to register (or re-register) in order to
continue to receive support files. During the registration process
you will receive instructions on how the new access procedure will
work or you can visit:
http://www.sco.com/support/linux_info.html
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Re:Can you say, "Pump and Dump"?
How many people here know how to Google bomb?
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SCO has filed copyright lawsuit against Micro$oft
Where could I post this bogus URGENT information?
Apparently SCO group CEO Darl McBride has through license agreements with Micro$oft obtained Micro$oft source code. SCO's "compare all source code and render a verdict software" has found over 1 million similarities and "infringements". Darl McBride is quoted as saying:
"The copyright rules that underlie SCO's case are not disputable. They provide a solid foundation for any software development model,... Rather than ignore or challenge copyright laws,... developers will advance their cause by respecting the rules of law that built our society into what it is today.... In the meantime, I will continue to protect SCO's intellectual property and contractual rights. "
Their recent aquisition of approximately 5 times the reserve they had or could ever make has put them on solid enough ground to go after bigger apes than IBM. The suit is looking for undisclosed damages totaling well over 300 billion. We await Micro$ofts answer.
I wish I was smart enough to have copyrighted the "if...then" statement. Oh and that "else" statement too. -
The Reverse Slashdot Effect
...the privaty equity firm that is the controlling shareholder of SCO (I forget its name) managed to persuade another investor of the likelihood of a multimillior dollar settlement from big names.
The name you're looking for is the Canopy Group.
The /. crowd is generally unable to affect stock prices, but if we (a) start a campaign to hurt SCO sales and, even better (b) isolate the leading shareholders of SCO, figure out what other business interests they have, and boycott the whole lot of them, we're likely to have justice prevail.
Here's a list of the Canopy Group's portfolio companies, including some that should know better and might be encouraged put some pressure on their investors to stop this nonsense. Do you do business with these companies or recommend their products? If suing their partners and customers is just part of "the Canopy Way" should you or your company worry about litigation from them next? If you're an investor or employee and Canopy loses, should you worry about your stocks or your job? Maybe it's time to start the "reverse slashdot effect."
Altiris
Axiom Press
Center7/Inc.
Cerberian
Cogitoinc
Communitect
Data Crystal
Devicelogics
DirectPointe
Fat Pipe
Geolux
helius
homepipeline
iArchives
Industrial Training Zone
LearningOptics
Linux Network
luxul
MaxStream
Mi-Co
mti
MyFamily.com
Perimeter Labs
PlanetEarthTools
Power Innovations
SCO/Caldera
Trolltech
Tuglet
viawest
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Kiss and say goodbye to Java language!!
No Java, no JSP man. Simply use PHP for web development.
Forget Java man and go to PHP!
PHP is 4 times faster than Java technology 'JSP' (Java server pages).
This tallies because compiled "C" program is 4 times faster than Java.
Moreover, PHP is getting the object oriented features of Java language.
The real usefulness of Java is 'Java applets' which run on client browsers but on the server side you simply use PHP.
PHP is a very lightening fast object oriented scripting language. PHP is 100% written in "C" and there is no virtual machine as in Java. Nothing can beat "C" language ("C" is a language which never dies!!)
(Java is just another language. The PHP project needs millions of Java programmers who can add the Java's language features like inner classes, static, private, protected and others to PHP. PHP already has some of java' features).
Java programmers will really "LOVE" PHP as PHP class is identical to Java's class keyword.
Read the benchmars of Java JSP and PHP. PHP tops in the speed!!
Read the doc here and mirrors at [1], [2], [3], [4]. -
Give me a break!
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Re:Hotplug CPU and RAM support?
It reall shouldn't be that difficult to add thia feature. Most of the work has already been written, and adding it to Linux should require no more than simple cut n paste job.
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More SCO theory....
Why is SGI trying to comply with SCO if these supposed code segments are "trivial" and why is SCO trying not to cooperate with SGI? Maybe SCO doesn't care about the code while SGI (knowing SCO would deny this good gesture ahead of time) is trying to add more evidence to a pump-n-dump case.
Meanwhile, hundreds of miles away, no one comes out of SCO HQ to greet Monninkhof. So I started wondering, is this a matter of mistreating their business partner or not enough employees to come outside? I suspect that there's less than the 339 employees they claim. Laying off a dozen or so could probably pay off the legal fees and spins for the press since july. And who honestly keeps a counter of their employment on a web page? I'm having visions of those counters on the bottom of ebay auctions: "Free Employment counters and Services from Andale." Looking at their site: "There are currently no job openings at SCO," and the history of SCO stops at 2002. Hmm...Their site also doesn't list any new beta software and no announcements that there will be, so are they even still developing? And on what?
But, there's still 25 days to the end of the "SCO year" and their "SCO IP license for Linux" offer ends in 9 days. I'm feeling pretty lucky, so I'm going to predict at least 12 SCO stories to hit slashdot headlines by Oct.31. Place your bets. -
Re:Good to be kept honest, anyway.That's not going to happen; at least, not with a sane defendent.
We're talking SCO here; so what's your point?
On a more serious note, a poster to GROKLAW ran across this SCO product brochure from 2002 which points out that the very features that SCO says infringe on their intellectual property (XFS, JFS, NUMA, etc.) are selling points in SCO's version of Linux. This makes it kind of hard for SCO to claim that they didn't know these features had been included in Linux and their release of the code under the GPL doesn't constitute GPLing the code.
I could be wrong but this only leaves SCO with three choices:
- They can't complain about the features, just individual code fragments. They have just told SGI that fixing the individual code fragments isn't sufficient.
- They challenge the GPL.
- Drop the suits against IBM and SGI and watch their stock tank.
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Shifting names
Originally SCO stood for "Santa Cruz Operation".
Eventually, SCO sold off its OS division, the one that made SCO UNIX and coincidentally happened at the time to own the original Unix copyrights (having bought them from Novell in 1995), to Caldera, a linux company. The remainder of what used to be SCO, the part Caldera didn't buy, is still operating under the name Tarantella.
Caldera, after buying SCO UNIX, changed its name to "The SCO Group." SCO doesn't stand for anything here. It's just "The SCO Group". Shortly after this the company's co-founder, Ransom Love, was replaced as CEO by Darl McBride, and SCO began to serve the Wyrm.
"The SCO Group" is owned by and has since Caldera's inception basically been under the auspices of an umbrella corporation called the Canopy Group. It has been repeatedly theorized that somewhere about the time McBride came in, the Canopy Group gave up on ever making any money ever again on Caldera's projects. Now, goes the theory, the Canopy Group is using the SCO group for no purpose other than as a front/shell company, so that the Canopy Group can engage in illegal but profitable enterprises such as slander, barratry, and fraud, and then when all hell breaks loose as a result and the countersuits start rolling in, "the SCO Group" gets all the blame and takes all the damage and quietly goes bankrupt, and the Canopy Group walks away scot-free. -
SUCCESS!
For those of you wondering what this whole SCO vs. Linux thing was about, I can finally reveal the truth.
As chairman and CEO of Canopy I've done a lot for the Open Source community. I've promoted investments in companies like Linux Networx, who make the third fastest supercomputer in the world and use Linux to do it. Companies like Lineo the masters of embedded Linux. Also Trolltech producing the incredible QT widget set used by the KDE project. And of course Caldera, producing the finest Linux distribution and pushing forwards the United Linux initiative.
But one shadow lay over my record of achievements. Despite all I had done for the Linux and Open Source communities, I still had never achieved the triumph I most desperately sought. Not once had an article I submitted been accepted by Slashdot :(
I'm sure my fellow Slashdotters can understand how this gnawed away at my soul.
Together with Darl McBride and David Boies I hatched a master plan, to achieve my dream of an accepted Slashdot article or to destroy Linux trying.
Caldera would purchase IP rights from the Santa Cruz Operation and with funding from Sun and Microsoft would use them as the springboard to launch a devastating legal and PR blitz against Linux. As part of this Darl would write a searing open letter to the Open Source community, drawing responses in return. One of these from Groklaw would give me the opportunity I needed...
As you can see everything has gone exactly to plan. I have my successful Slashdot submission, and I'm sure that looking back on it you can all see it was worth any 'collateral damage' along the way.
Darl, you can call off the dogs now.
God bless you all.
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The missing bit
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You'd be Broke
If you had been shorting SCOX all this time.
They're around $18 right now. In May they were in the $3s.
Feast your eyes on this lovely chart.
SCO is doing what Enron, Worldcom, Tyco, and so many other companies have done. They do absolutely anything, legal or not, ethical or not, to pump that stock. And keep in mind that for the stock to trade higher and higher means that people have been standing in line to buy it. Those asses share some of the blame. It's just a bunch of people trading, overall, lots of the world's time, energy, and money, for a little personal gain.
Fuck them.
Fuck McBride. His method of improving SCO's business here brings into serious question the supposed successes he ha d at other companies.
Speaking of the snake, does anyone have personal information on him? It would be a real shame if he personally were to receive indications of the world's negative feelings about him...
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Re:Outlook
The $699 license fee is for servers. I pay only $199 per workstation. Also, that license is good forever, not for one year like Micro$soft's "license."
Frankly, I believe that $199 is a perfectly fair price for Linux.
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Re:Childish screening procedures.
Google for Santa Cruz Operation. See what company comes up.
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What is suspicious behavior?
I'll tell you what suspicious behavior is... When a terrorist overlord has factions in 82 countries wages a campaign of shock and awwwww upon a target demographic....
The squeaky wheels of justice need greasing...
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Busy making "Technical" presentationsLook at this highly informative presentation on the OpenServer Growth strategy presented at the annual SCO forum here a few weeks back.
If you like old cars that is. The Growth strategy consist of 5 photos of different cars.
Thought I should die laughing whan I saw it. Do they really show grown- ups this shit?
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Registering my linux on SCO.com
Sadly I was unable to register my Linux installs on sco.com. You see, after entering my information, except for SCO Linux, there is not realy an option that describes my personal Linux solutions, so I was unable to register my Linux with SCO. Ohwell.. I don't think they can send mail to fake@real.com anywho.
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Re:Linux. The Future is Open. IBM.How naive. It's really simple. IBM is trying to rake in a few billion selling software they don't have to pay for.
Not totally true. If they want to sell it as a service then they have to test it TWICE or THREE TIMES than the usual since they can't trust that a single patch don't go over someone else's IP or don't start overwriting the system in an erratical way, trashing everything on the customers system. Still they have to pay a good deal for Quality Assurance.
I don't know what's giving you a warm fuzzy feeling. It's not charity. They're not "supporting the community", they're simply saving tens of millions on software development by letting gullible, naive college kids work for free.
Naive college kids certainly lack the interest to support exotic hardware like IBM's S/390. Also "Naive" college kids usually want MORE to haxx0r the neighbour box or to enter on teacher's pc and change their votes. I know this because I am still a CS student. (No, I am also working in the meanwhile).
Less naive college kids instead want to collaborate on the linux kernel, the gnu system or whatever other project (bsd, reactos, xfree, their own videogame emulator) because:
a) it is a system they use and they want it to work well for them,
b) they want to gain more expertise in security or programming in a certain language, or simply make that grade in the "Operating System Course",
c) they maybe are doing it as an hobby, since they otherwise would get bored with other hobbies,
d) maybe they also hope for a "head hunter" to notice their work, OR to be able to use their software for a private, succesful infrastructure on which they can sell support (see VALinux's Sourceforge for an example).Helping the opensource community is a balanced act between greed and helping people, between learning and teaching.
It's the same thing that happens at my local food co-op. The food co-op plasters the word "community" on everything, and people stand in line to "volunteer" there. The co-op is a business, and they're just using the same kind of gullible, naive people to work for free for them. Same fucking thing. Fuck it. Labor is expensive.
Yes, labor is so expensive that you have to buy retarded software that helps your business to be competitive by cutting jobs, and sending people with 3 or 4 children to the land of the joblessness.
I bet that at least your local food "co-op" doesn't teach your children that treating people like a mop is rightful a thing to do. Hell, It looks like we got back to the time of the ancient romans, who used to have a philosopher that said that "slaves were talking tools".
Yes, let's go back to the Roman Empire, where if you didn't worship the empereor you were sent to the arena to be eaten by Lions while we are at it.Maybe I'll convert my business to a "co-op", and let the "community" "volunteer" to run my business while I sit in the back raking in the money.
Why not start a TacoMcStarbucks instead? More or less the it is the same greedy business than a food co-op, Labor is cheap as well, but usually the returns are better than the normal "co-op" with food from the third world. Oh, and you don't also fuck people plastering the place with >, but instead you can honestly do the big bad ugly employer who juggles the careers of very young people. Ask them to work overtime then fuck them giving no extra unpaid holidays.
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To be back ontopic: at least "co-op" give you a _good_ dream and _good_ memes as well. With everyone spreading bullshit like "enterprises and capitalism are better than the happiness and completeness of individual", "co-op"s are a useful point for stating that the individual IS the center of the society, and that if the individual is oppressed, the society loses.Also remember that I reminded that IBM was a bad guy as well in the first place...
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Yes
This guy is my boss and DAMN he's an idiot!
(Unfortunately, it looks like someone has DoSed the site. Bummer.)
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Re:DOS too?
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Re:licensing fees
The reason for the "do as we say, not as we do" comment is probably because SCO originally described Linux as a bicycle next to the luxury car that is SCO UNIX. Of course, SCO changes what they are saying frequently, so that's old news at this point.
84. Prior to IBM's involvement, Linux was the software equivalent of a bicycle. UNIX was the software equivalent of a luxury car.
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Re:How many for Linux?
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Bots skin...
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Re:Oooh!
Corrected link here.
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Why is that people who whine so much . . .
never seem to discover Wine?
All kidding aside, I have been absolutely suprised by Wine recently. I sent my sister a computer (Linux, of course) and she said, "Great, but we absolutely have to have Paltalk." Suprise, suprise, Paltalk has Windows and Mac (or should I say, BSD?) versions, but no Linux version. Okay, so I go to this site and am pleasantly amazed to find the different apps that now run under Wine (according to this one site). And, this is the FREE version of Wine I am talking about (though, if you are new to Linux, you might want to just buy something like Crossoffice). So my sister gets a stable, virus free computer that does EVERYTHING she wants it to do, and I can support her remotely through SSH (she lives a thousand mile away from me).
Honestly, between the apps that are getting ported and the steady progress of Wine, I think it is time for you to find a new excuse why you are not using Linux. If you run out of reasonable/coherent excuses, you can always check these guys out.
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Let us lobeth a grenade at SCO and be done.
Taco:Yes, of course! The Holy Slashdot of OSDL! 'Tis one of the sacred relics Brother Cowboy Neal carries with him. Brother Neal! Bring up the Holy Slashdot!
AC's chanting: Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem.
Brother Neal: Armaments, chapter two, verse nine to twenty one.
Brother Neal: And Saint Stallman raised the Slashdot up high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy Holy Slashdot that, with it, Thou mayest slashdot Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy'. And the Lord did grin, and the AC's did feast upon first posts, trolls, GNAA posts, and...
Taco: Skip it a bit, Brother.
Brother Neal: And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou click on the holy link called Slashdot. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, clickest thou holy Slashdot of OSDL towards thy server, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'
Taco: Amen -
Dear Jesus
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Re:SCO has declared warOne interesting way of fighting back is a realspace DDoS, contacting SCO in any way possible with our (valid!) "concerns". It would be especially useful to clog SCO's media and licensing channels with such communications, as this could lead the media to believe SCO's clamming up.
The only problem is that it takes more time to compose something like the parent's letter than it does to ignore it. Perhaps an automated letter generator, taking pre-written paraphrases of key points, is in order.
If you're willing to give your name and address or phone number, snail mail and POTS is probably the best way, but email isn't horrible either (and it's easier to automate).
http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/index.html ,
http://www.sco.com/licensing/piracy.html ,
1-800 726-8649,
And probably many others I don't have time to find, including investors relations and any media channels.
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Re:Naww!!!
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Re:The End is Near
That picture is from way back. Or at least after a glamour remake. The true Darl has bed head, fake smile, 5-day sloppy goatee, 29% body fat, and sports rumpled colorless business fashions.
You can't fool me Darl. You only look like an OSS developer.
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Re:Not quite what I wroteI just checked and it looks like they pulled the sponser document as demonstrated at http://www.caldera.com/2003forum/sponsors.html. However, the google cache is out there. This is golden as you can see other sponserships (gone south?) and potential candidates you can contact.
As sites may be removed from google's cache, here's a listing of the companies that were listed
Premier Sponsor
HP
Gold Sponsor
CRN
Silver and Bronze Sponsors
Microlite Corporation
Rasmussen Software Inc.
Equinox Systems
Century
Digi International
TeleVideo
Multi-Tech Systems
InoStor
TelSoft Solutions
Open Systems
Lone Star Software
DTR Business Systems
Maxspeed Corporation
Tarantella
Basis International
Vultus Inc.
SDSI
fp Technologies
TAKgroup
NextAxiom
Now all those sites reference a site, but that has been taken down too...OR HAS IT!!! mwaHAHAHAHA!!
But, yeah, that page is much more informative. Also for those interested on what the diff sponsorships mean[pdf]...
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Re:Not quite what I wroteI just checked and it looks like they pulled the sponser document as demonstrated at http://www.caldera.com/2003forum/sponsors.html. However, the google cache is out there. This is golden as you can see other sponserships (gone south?) and potential candidates you can contact.
As sites may be removed from google's cache, here's a listing of the companies that were listed
Premier Sponsor
HP
Gold Sponsor
CRN
Silver and Bronze Sponsors
Microlite Corporation
Rasmussen Software Inc.
Equinox Systems
Century
Digi International
TeleVideo
Multi-Tech Systems
InoStor
TelSoft Solutions
Open Systems
Lone Star Software
DTR Business Systems
Maxspeed Corporation
Tarantella
Basis International
Vultus Inc.
SDSI
fp Technologies
TAKgroup
NextAxiom
Now all those sites reference a site, but that has been taken down too...OR HAS IT!!! mwaHAHAHAHA!!
But, yeah, that page is much more informative. Also for those interested on what the diff sponsorships mean[pdf]...
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Re:Not quite what I wroteI just checked and it looks like they pulled the sponser document as demonstrated at http://www.caldera.com/2003forum/sponsors.html. However, the google cache is out there. This is golden as you can see other sponserships (gone south?) and potential candidates you can contact.
As sites may be removed from google's cache, here's a listing of the companies that were listed
Premier Sponsor
HP
Gold Sponsor
CRN
Silver and Bronze Sponsors
Microlite Corporation
Rasmussen Software Inc.
Equinox Systems
Century
Digi International
TeleVideo
Multi-Tech Systems
InoStor
TelSoft Solutions
Open Systems
Lone Star Software
DTR Business Systems
Maxspeed Corporation
Tarantella
Basis International
Vultus Inc.
SDSI
fp Technologies
TAKgroup
NextAxiom
Now all those sites reference a site, but that has been taken down too...OR HAS IT!!! mwaHAHAHAHA!!
But, yeah, that page is much more informative. Also for those interested on what the diff sponsorships mean[pdf]...
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Re:The End is Near
Man, he does look like he was a fucking jock earlier in life, whose career path is of course bullshiting his way into management, who's never related to or respected the nerd culture. just one major asshole. "The DNA of Linux is SCO code."? Fuck you man!
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Re:What if I do not use SCO code?
Yes but Unix code in general has been used as examples in operating system programming. One of the big problems SCO has is Unix has been around so long that core features of it have been used in many other places than Unix.
So here are some links with some history and the battle SCO has is to prove that the code they see in Linux didn't come from these sources instead of IBM because if it came from these sources there is nothing SCO gets.
Public Money, Private Code
Quote from above: In 1992, Berkeley released its version of Unix and TCP/IP to the public as open-source code, and the combination quickly became the backbone of a network so vast that people started to call it, simply, "the Internet"
Why Caldera Decided to Release Unix
From that article note that Caldera did release Unix source code on some version and again SCO has to defend against the chance that code came from this source. And though it appears in protected System V it was also present in the release V7 and V32.
Introducing the Caldera OpenLinux Workstation
From thie quote on the above:OpenLinux is Caldera's self-hosted source code Linux distribution that conforms to commercial software release procedures. OpenLinux is based on the most current stable open source technologies, but subjected to rigorous testing procedures similar to those used for proprietary operating systems. How can SCO clain they did not see infected code go into Linux if they had standards that if up to proprietary operating systems would include a check as such.
Berkley Lab Notes
My question here is if you follow the links on this page and understand the history of Unix and how it became freely released can anyone tell me what if anything was left propietary in Unix?????
And maybe that is a question SCO should be answering.
And really this needs to be explored in detail because what does System V have that BSD does not and how does the BSDi vs USL case affect the Unix propietary code.
I know this is redundant it has all been said before but the Q&A is right. Without SCO showing the code in question and that code be compared to so much of the Unix system that legally leaked into the world they have no case. -
Re:What if I do not use SCO code?SCO code is SHIT, if there web applications are any indication.
I just thought I'd peek at their site right now, to see what phantasm they were conjuring now.
They had a promising looking link at http://www.sco.com/licensing. The link says REGISTER , which in good fun, I clicked... Getting pages of badly escaped error in SQL connection. A Caldera URL, domain and coding are evident... Enough info in the error to guess that their CGI fields map to names in the table space.
A decent SQL injection could probably drop the DB, who knows? Maybe more. Real amateur job they've done.
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Re:Here is the timelineVery impressive! You've managed to throw logic and reason out the window and get modded up for it. Let's bask for a moment in your apparent disregard for common sense...
...and now, let's move on to reason.You're right about one thing: Darl McBride is provably an ambitious young twit. In fact, looking at his photo, I'd say he's likely a mega-twit. Why, then, do you insist that he needs help from Microsoft (or anyone else) to do his dirty deeds?
This is a case of a few men's greed, pure and simple.
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Re:Here is the timelineVery impressive! You've managed to throw logic and reason out the window and get modded up for it. Let's bask for a moment in your apparent disregard for common sense...
...and now, let's move on to reason.You're right about one thing: Darl McBride is provably an ambitious young twit. In fact, looking at his photo, I'd say he's likely a mega-twit. Why, then, do you insist that he needs help from Microsoft (or anyone else) to do his dirty deeds?
This is a case of a few men's greed, pure and simple.
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How the current poll and this article are related.
Perhaps all the choices should be set aside in favor of
SCO zealots
From their website
"1999 SCO launches numerous Open Source Initiatives: 1) Offers free Open Source applications and tools to SCO customers; 2) Extends Professional Services to include audits and deployment consultation for customers interested in installing Linux and Open Source technologies; 3) Invests in LinuxMall.com, the leading portal for Linux-related products and services; 4) Enters strategic agreement with TurboLinux to develop services for TurboLinux's TurboCluster Server and provide Linux Professional Services for TurboLinux customers."
Sometimes the sellouts pretend to be the most zealous zealots of all. Kinda sad, really.
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Re:Forgive my possible naievityIf there actually is any infringement, which does seem possible, I would think that a rational judge would say "fix it, you have 1 month" or something to that effect, and a month later all would be peachy and dandy. Meanwhile SCO refuses to show anyone the "infringing" code because they know it'll just get fixed. If they were honest businesspeople trying to make some money off their UNIX, they would have just shown the code, asked for it to be changed, and that would have been the end of it. But no; not only do they refuse to show anyone what needs fixing, but they continue to offer linux, directly violating the GPL.
By the way, Microsoft is backing SCO against IBM.
There's a start for your answers.
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Re:Please Copy "Let's Put SCO Behind Bars
I had skipped over your post the first time I saw it. However, after some reflection, I came back and read it. You make many good points. I believe that any number of them could be valid cases. However, I believe you've missed one of the most simple ones. (Simple to understand and difficult to defend.)
You state:
SCO's license is actually no license at all, and it is fraud for SCO to be claiming it has a right to offer a binary-only license. If anyone tries to add additional restrictions to code that is covered by the GPL, they lose the privileges the GPL granted them.
If this is the case (and I believe that it is), then SCO is violating the copyrights of thousands of developers around the world who have code (contributed under the GPL) in Caldera's current version of their OpenLinux. Caldera no longer has premission to copy the software and they still are: (From ftp.caldera.com: The Linux rpms available on SCO's ftp site are offered for download to existing customers of SCO Linux, Caldera OpenLinux or SCO UnixWare with LKP, in order to honor SCO's support obligations to such customers.).
This makes it a simple Copyright Infringement case, which everyone understands.
As an added benefit, if the pressure actually forces SCO to pull the Linux distribution from their site, it seems that they will be in violation of service contracts with existing customers. This would provide a nice basis of a class action suit from thier customers. Since all this was started over contract violations, this seems a fitting end to the farse.
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a stunning observation from Gartner
Since we're sharing news
From Caldera's own site
"Regardless of the outcome of the suit, SCO has lost significant goodwill in the Linux community."
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Teh Slashdot has You
Agent Cowboy Neal: Tell me McBride, what good are your licenses if your servers can't even speak?
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Re:Here are more pictures.
> This is another picture of the great ape in its natural habitat
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Hybrid
How about hybrid gorilla/human or chimp/human?
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Re:License Fees for caldera?
SCO has come up with a FAQ for current and potential users... Check out SCO's Decision to Suspend Linux Activities Frequently Asked Questions. I believe they say that previous owners of THEIR Linux Distro is exempt from the $699 fee. (Go figure)
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