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I've seen this before in AD groups. Windows will do a 'delayed write' of a file, then let you know later on if the write failed. Great if you're copying files up, terrible if you're saving a document while quitting the application and you get told 30 seconds later that your data was lost.

Example: http://cdslash.net/temp/images/datalost.png

Quite frustrating. I've yet to lose serious amounts of data so far, but I'm sure it'll happen.

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

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How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

Looks like Linux has found it's answer to the BSD babe!

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

God damn you have some low standards, even for a geek.

That redhead is barely a 5 on a scale of 1-10, and the rest are some of the fuglier dogs I've seen. I stepped through one of the sites though, and found the following two pictures that weren't too bad. Is that Aleshia Silverstone with the tatas a poppin?

God damn you have some low standards, even for a geek.

That redhead is barely a 5 on a scale of 1-10, and the rest are some of the fuglier dogs I've seen. I stepped through one of the sites though, and found the following two pictures that weren't too bad. Is that Aleshia Silverstone with the tatas a poppin?

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

How can people say BSD [freebsd.org] [freebsd.org] is dying when it has a mascot [freebsd.org] [freebsd.org] like this?! Linux [debian.org] [debian.org] needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks [hope-2000.org] [hope-2000.org] and gorgeous babes [hope-2000.org] [hope-2000.org] that BSD [openbsd.org] [openbsd.org] has to offer!

You just can't take Linux [redhat.com] [redhat.com] seriously when its fronted by losers [nylug.org] [nylug.org] like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux [suse.com] [suse.com] groupies need to find some sexy girls like her [hope-2000.org] [hope-2000.org]! I mean just look at this girl [madchat.org] [madchat.org]! Doesn't she [madchat.org] [madchat.org] excite you? I know this little hottie [madchat.org] [madchat.org] puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox [spilth.org] [spilth.org]. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy [spilth.org] [spilth.org] little minx [spilth.org] [spilth.org]. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass [dis.org] [dis.org]?!

With sexy chicks [minions.com] [minions.com] like the lovely Ceren [dis.org] [dis.org] you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD [netbsd.org] [netbsd.org] if she [dis.org] [dis.org] told you to? Come on, you must admit she [cdslash.net] [cdslash.net] is better than an overweight penguin [tamu.edu] [tamu.edu] or a gay looking goat [gnu.org] [gnu.org]! Don't you wish you could get one of these [drexel.edu] [drexel.edu]? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close [dis.org] [dis.org] to such a divine beauty [czarina.org] [czarina.org]!

Join the campaign for more cute [madchat.org] [madchat.org] open source babes [madchat.org] [madchat.org] today!

You are kidding me right? If your gonna troll atleast do it right. And there are
a lot
more
where
that
came
from
PS. BSD=APPLE's Loop hole to the GPL
GO DEBIAN!

You are kidding me right? If your gonna troll atleast do it right. And there are
a lot
more
where
that
came
from
PS. BSD=APPLE's Loop hole to the GPL
GO DEBIAN!

You are kidding me right? If your gonna troll atleast do it right. And there are
a lot
more
where
that
came
from
PS. BSD=APPLE's Loop hole to the GPL
GO DEBIAN!

You are kidding me right? If your gonna troll atleast do it right. And there are
a lot
more
where
that
came
from
PS. BSD=APPLE's Loop hole to the GPL
GO DEBIAN!

You are kidding me right? If your gonna troll atleast do it right. And there are
a lot
more
where
that
came
from
PS. BSD=APPLE's Loop hole to the GPL
GO DEBIAN!

How can people say BSD [freebsd.org] [freebsd.org] is dying when it has a mascot [freebsd.org] [freebsd.org] like this?! Linux [debian.org] [debian.org] needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks [hope-2000.org] [hope-2000.org] and gorgeous babes [hope-2000.org] [hope-2000.org] that BSD [openbsd.org] [openbsd.org] has to offer!

You just can't take Linux [redhat.com] [redhat.com] seriously when its fronted by losers [nylug.org] [nylug.org] like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux [suse.com] [suse.com] groupies need to find some sexy girls like her [hope-2000.org] [hope-2000.org]! I mean just look at this girl [madchat.org] [madchat.org]! Doesn't she [madchat.org] [madchat.org] excite you? I know this little hottie [madchat.org] [madchat.org] puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox [spilth.org] [spilth.org]. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy [spilth.org] [spilth.org] little minx [spilth.org] [spilth.org]. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass [dis.org] [dis.org]?!

With sexy chicks [minions.com] [minions.com] like the lovely Ceren [dis.org] [dis.org] you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD [netbsd.org] [netbsd.org] if she [dis.org] [dis.org] told you to? Come on, you must admit she [cdslash.net] [cdslash.net] is better than an overweight penguin [tamu.edu] [tamu.edu] or a gay looking goat [gnu.org] [gnu.org]! Don't you wish you could get one of these [drexel.edu] [drexel.edu]? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close [dis.org] [dis.org] to such a divine beauty [czarina.org] [czarina.org]!

Join the campaign for more cute [madchat.org] [madchat.org] open source babes [madchat.org] [madchat.org] today!

How can people say BSD [freebsd.org] is dying when it has a mascot [freebsd.org] like this?! Linux [debian.org] needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks [hope-2000.org] and gorgeous babes [hope-2000.org] that BSD [openbsd.org] has to offer!

You just can't take Linux [redhat.com] seriously when its fronted by losers [nylug.org] like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux [suse.com] groupies need to find some sexy girls like her [hope-2000.org]! I mean just look at this girl [madchat.org]! Doesn't she [madchat.org] excite you? I know this little hottie [madchat.org] puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox [spilth.org]. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy [spilth.org] little minx [spilth.org]. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass [dis.org]?!

With sexy chicks [minions.com] like the lovely Ceren [dis.org] you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD [netbsd.org] if she [dis.org] told you to? Come on, you must admit she [cdslash.net] is better than an overweight penguin [tamu.edu] or a gay looking goat [gnu.org]! Don't you wish you could get one of these [drexel.edu]? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close [dis.org] to such a divine beauty [czarina.org]!

Join the campaign for more cute [madchat.org] open source babes [madchat.org] today!

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

With sexy chicks like the lovely Ceren you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD if she told you to? Come on, you must admit she is better than an overweight penguin or a gay looking goat! Don't you wish you could get one of these? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close to such a divine beauty!

Join the campaign for more cute open source babes today!

Angel? Angels? Angels? ?

Don't you mean daemonettes?

It's Nokia's latest offering, full of innovation that would be best-placed in something that is either one or the other. It's a GSM cellular device, so it only works with two cellular providers in Canada, one of which isn't really available anywhere except the major cities, and it's a game console that doesn't play any games you'll want to play for more than ten minutes.

Interested? Well now you too can enjoy this medocrity for only twice the price of a PS2 or XBox, 2.5 times the price of a Gamecube, a little over three times the price of a Game Boy Advance SP, or five times the price of a regular Game Boy Advance.

Sound too good to be true? Well, let's look at it from another angle, and you'll see that this advanced technology can be yours for a mere ten times the price of an ordinary cellphone or only twice the price of a premium cellular phone at street market prices.

Hey, maybe it'll be as well-concieved and value-priced as the N-Gage. Wouldn't that be nice.

--Dan

Here are those same screenshots: non-temp site. No popup. The site will last indefinitely.

--Dan

> Administering a Windows 98 machine on a 2K network is horrible. The methods for implementing everything are mixed up, you can't specify a home directory, the netlogon scripts don't even run (they run, but do nothing), and so on.

Excuse me, but did you think that this was 'accidental'.

No, of course not. I can tell you what it was though: Windows 98 was designed with this idea of 'hey, what if you could do x?' and so they implemented it, and you know what? It sucked. So in Windows 2000, they said 'hey, that sucked, let's get a clue and do it right', and they did.

> Microsoft's problem has always been keeping backwards compatibility until it shot them in the foot.
MS's _actual_ problem is that the older OS's, '98, 'NT, and 2000 and Office '97, '2000 have been 'good enough' for most users. These users stopped throwing money at MS, which is a real problem.

No, Microsoft's actual problem is that people keep using Windows 98, and complain that 'Windows is unstable'. They don't patch their systems, and complain that 'Windows is insecure'. They use MS Word to type up a resume without even changing a single font, and complain that 'Office has too many useless features'. They complain that the Windows interface is ugly, and then complain that 'Windows XP is ugly'.

Yes, MS has planned obsolescance, but you can't sit down with the Linux kernel, version 1.0.35, and expect that all your hardware will work, can you? You can't view my CSS-enabled website in NCSA Mosaic the way it was meant to look - and HTML was *designed* to fall-back. Why? New tags. The markup I use didn't exist back then, nor did the image formats.

The difference between MS's changes and HTML's or Linux's is that the latter two aren't PLANNED. Microsoft will publically say 'As of the end of 2003, we are no longer supporting Windows 98 in any way', and if you want to upgrade to 2K, go ahead, and if you want to change to Linux, fine. They don't care. That being said, you can't use an OS for five years and expect it to stay perfectly well supported.

As for throwing money at MS - can you HONESTLY blame a corporation for trying to make money? That is the sole purpose of the corporation. They don't exist to help you sleep at night, to tuck you in and read you bedtime stories and look under your bed for monsters, they're there to make money, and by god, they'll do everything in their legal power to do so, because the CEO can be sued by the board of directors for doing something they (the board) see as a bad business decision, as if losing a $500k-1m/yr job isn't enough of a kick in the face.

It isn't about making new products better, it is about making old products worse.

I've been using Windows since before Win3.1. There are improvements. I've been using MS Word since before Windows. There are improvements. There are a slew of features in the recent versions that make my life scads easier. The newer versions are, believe it or not, smaller (Office 2k3 is the smallest install yet, and I installed more stuff than I usually do... and it's *beta code*), they're as fast or faster (Outlook 2k3 loads about as fast as Outlook Express or Eudora, and it does more and looks nicer), they include features that people actually use, and they work as I expected them to.

As for DRM, here's what I'm expecting: You're not entitled to view a document, you can't. I can write a memo to my boss's boss without risking that he'll get a copy somehow and read it and see me overruling him. I won't end up on the street because people shouldn't be reading my confidential memos. Companies won't have to worry as much about getting 'hacked' (think social engineering == remote network access), because important documents can't be read outside of the company.

As for your pseudo-witty virus comment, Office 2k3 lets you not install VB scripting support. Yeah, they should've had that as an option before, but at least they added it eventually. Gift horse, and all.

Yeah, MS is no saint, but neither am I, and neither are you. If you don't like it, vote with your money. I do like it, and I vote with mine, and apparantly, MS is 'good enough' for most people.

I shouldn't be ranting to an AC, since you'll probably never even know I replied, but a lot of the points you make seem good on the surface, and I don't like FUD, no matter whom it is against, and I feel this post in particular needed a reply, just to clear some stuff up.

--Dan

PS: If you do read this, why not post as a user next time, and attach your name to your ideas?

Actually, the military isn't playing Counterstrike, what they're doing is far more.. shall we say, productive?

I was looking through my website logs the other night, and found that I had a few hundred hits from .mil, so I decided to check them out...

The logfile of the accesses is online, and the most common entry point from the military to my site is via a Google search, which leads them to part of my images gallery. Not that I can blame them, but they never seem to stay. Go figure.

--Dan

Actually, the military isn't playing Counterstrike, what they're doing is far more.. shall we say, productive?

I was looking through my website logs the other night, and found that I had a few hundred hits from .mil, so I decided to check them out...

The logfile of the accesses is online, and the most common entry point from the military to my site is via a Google search, which leads them to part of my images gallery. Not that I can blame them, but they never seem to stay. Go figure.

--Dan

This is what my website does, and Google indexes it fine.

--Dan

I actually have my own test URL up (http://www.cdslash.net/temp/back.htm which makes a great companion to my XP logout exploit which works great in IE6 (that example logs out WinXP and Win2K with crappo security settings. If you don't have a logoff.exe, you're fine).

Results so far, it works for me, but it does NOT work for a friend who is running Win98, as I am, but IE 5.x instead of 6.0 (which I have).

--Dan

I actually have my own test URL up (http://www.cdslash.net/temp/back.htm which makes a great companion to my XP logout exploit which works great in IE6 (that example logs out WinXP and Win2K with crappo security settings. If you don't have a logoff.exe, you're fine).

Results so far, it works for me, but it does NOT work for a friend who is running Win98, as I am, but IE 5.x instead of 6.0 (which I have).

--Dan

I stand by with what I said earlier: Properly coded pages render just as perfect in Opera 6.01 as they do in Mozilla 0.9.9 and IE 6. Anyone, claiming the opposite, is a lying sack of shit. I know, since I use Opera every day and often compare its performance to other browsers.

http://cdslash.net/index2.php - this page does not render properly in Opera. Maybe you need to get down off your zealotry horse and get a clue? Incidentally, the page is 100% validated XHTML Strict 1.0 and the css (http://cdslash.net/cdslash.css) is validated too. There are some warnings about not having a colour with my background colour specification, but those will be fixed when I get more time to work on the site.

If you're interested in seeing what I see, check this out:

http://cdslash.net/temp/browsers/opera.png - This is what Opera thinks the page should look like. It totally ignores the width: attribute of the navbar. This isn't even something fancy, like layers, or DHTML, this is setting the width of a table cell. Tell me now that Opera renders things perfect.
http://cdslash.net/temp/browsers/mozilla.png - For reference, this is what Mozilla renders it as, which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it's supposed to look like. Weird how that works, isn't it? IE looks exactly the same too, in case you were wondering.

Anyway, maybe you should 'often compare its performance to other browsers' without deciding your results beforehand. Maybe you'd get better results that way.

--Dan

I stand by with what I said earlier: Properly coded pages render just as perfect in Opera 6.01 as they do in Mozilla 0.9.9 and IE 6. Anyone, claiming the opposite, is a lying sack of shit. I know, since I use Opera every day and often compare its performance to other browsers.

http://cdslash.net/index2.php - this page does not render properly in Opera. Maybe you need to get down off your zealotry horse and get a clue? Incidentally, the page is 100% validated XHTML Strict 1.0 and the css (http://cdslash.net/cdslash.css) is validated too. There are some warnings about not having a colour with my background colour specification, but those will be fixed when I get more time to work on the site.

If you're interested in seeing what I see, check this out:

http://cdslash.net/temp/browsers/opera.png - This is what Opera thinks the page should look like. It totally ignores the width: attribute of the navbar. This isn't even something fancy, like layers, or DHTML, this is setting the width of a table cell. Tell me now that Opera renders things perfect.
http://cdslash.net/temp/browsers/mozilla.png - For reference, this is what Mozilla renders it as, which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it's supposed to look like. Weird how that works, isn't it? IE looks exactly the same too, in case you were wondering.

Anyway, maybe you should 'often compare its performance to other browsers' without deciding your results beforehand. Maybe you'd get better results that way.

--Dan

I stand by with what I said earlier: Properly coded pages render just as perfect in Opera 6.01 as they do in Mozilla 0.9.9 and IE 6. Anyone, claiming the opposite, is a lying sack of shit. I know, since I use Opera every day and often compare its performance to other browsers.

http://cdslash.net/index2.php - this page does not render properly in Opera. Maybe you need to get down off your zealotry horse and get a clue? Incidentally, the page is 100% validated XHTML Strict 1.0 and the css (http://cdslash.net/cdslash.css) is validated too. There are some warnings about not having a colour with my background colour specification, but those will be fixed when I get more time to work on the site.

If you're interested in seeing what I see, check this out:

http://cdslash.net/temp/browsers/opera.png - This is what Opera thinks the page should look like. It totally ignores the width: attribute of the navbar. This isn't even something fancy, like layers, or DHTML, this is setting the width of a table cell. Tell me now that Opera renders things perfect.
http://cdslash.net/temp/browsers/mozilla.png - For reference, this is what Mozilla renders it as, which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it's supposed to look like. Weird how that works, isn't it? IE looks exactly the same too, in case you were wondering.

Anyway, maybe you should 'often compare its performance to other browsers' without deciding your results beforehand. Maybe you'd get better results that way.

--Dan

I stand by with what I said earlier: Properly coded pages render just as perfect in Opera 6.01 as they do in Mozilla 0.9.9 and IE 6. Anyone, claiming the opposite, is a lying sack of shit. I know, since I use Opera every day and often compare its performance to other browsers.

http://cdslash.net/index2.php - this page does not render properly in Opera. Maybe you need to get down off your zealotry horse and get a clue? Incidentally, the page is 100% validated XHTML Strict 1.0 and the css (http://cdslash.net/cdslash.css) is validated too. There are some warnings about not having a colour with my background colour specification, but those will be fixed when I get more time to work on the site.

If you're interested in seeing what I see, check this out:

http://cdslash.net/temp/browsers/opera.png - This is what Opera thinks the page should look like. It totally ignores the width: attribute of the navbar. This isn't even something fancy, like layers, or DHTML, this is setting the width of a table cell. Tell me now that Opera renders things perfect.
http://cdslash.net/temp/browsers/mozilla.png - For reference, this is what Mozilla renders it as, which, coincidentally enough, is exactly what it's supposed to look like. Weird how that works, isn't it? IE looks exactly the same too, in case you were wondering.

Anyway, maybe you should 'often compare its performance to other browsers' without deciding your results beforehand. Maybe you'd get better results that way.

--Dan

The only renderer I've seen that is better than FT2 is BitStream's FontFusion (found in QNX RtP) and the only reason I like it better is because it is less heavy-handed with the anti-aliasing.

I have to say that the rendering in the GNOME screenshots I see is, while better than none in some ways, ass ugly in other ways.

My personal favourite antialiasing engine is the one in the Macintosh shareware control panel SmoothType, which does a great OSX-style job of rendering fonts, and is surprisingly fast too.

before and after screenshots as examples. The FT2 rendering seems similar, but there's just something ugly about it that rubs me the wrong way.

Certainly, FT2 blows away Windows' font rendering. Compare Arial in FT2 to Arial in XP, and you'll notice that FT2 renders the text visibly more clearly.

FT2 indeed does have beautiful antialiasing, though I can't say whether XP does or not. Most of the fonts Windows uses (in my experience) are not antialiased (MS Sans Serif for example), nor are the common file sizes (12 pt or something), so unless it's changed big-time in XP (which wouldn't surprise me) you don't gain a whole lot from MS Antialiasing.

On a related note, anyone know of antialising render engine replacements for Windows 98?

--Dan

The only renderer I've seen that is better than FT2 is BitStream's FontFusion (found in QNX RtP) and the only reason I like it better is because it is less heavy-handed with the anti-aliasing.

I have to say that the rendering in the GNOME screenshots I see is, while better than none in some ways, ass ugly in other ways.

My personal favourite antialiasing engine is the one in the Macintosh shareware control panel SmoothType, which does a great OSX-style job of rendering fonts, and is surprisingly fast too.

before and after screenshots as examples. The FT2 rendering seems similar, but there's just something ugly about it that rubs me the wrong way.

Certainly, FT2 blows away Windows' font rendering. Compare Arial in FT2 to Arial in XP, and you'll notice that FT2 renders the text visibly more clearly.

FT2 indeed does have beautiful antialiasing, though I can't say whether XP does or not. Most of the fonts Windows uses (in my experience) are not antialiased (MS Sans Serif for example), nor are the common file sizes (12 pt or something), so unless it's changed big-time in XP (which wouldn't surprise me) you don't gain a whole lot from MS Antialiasing.

On a related note, anyone know of antialising render engine replacements for Windows 98?

--Dan