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You have the same issues in the open source world. Granted, it's slightly better in that anyone can look at the code but how many people can trust trust? Or how many can decode "Obfuscated C"?

Obfuscation takes care of the software side.... CPU microcode deals with the hardware end and then there are the actual circuits of the processors... remember how they etched "bill sucks" on an Intel (ironic name eh?) CPU? What other goodies are on the chips that go into the worlds systems? Undocumented features? http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=undocumented+x86

The only computer/compiler/software you can trust is one you build yourself from scratch. Anything else has varying degrees of mistrust.

http://clusty.com/search?query=nvidia+batman+arkham+asylum&tb=opensearch&

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33960034

http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=nvidia+amd+physx

http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=nvidia+cheat

And the list goes on and on.

Nvidia = Intel = Microsoft. Anti-competitive and anti-consumer to the end.

http://clusty.com/search?query=nvidia+batman+arkham+asylum&tb=opensearch&

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33960034

http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=nvidia+amd+physx

http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=nvidia+cheat

And the list goes on and on.

Nvidia = Intel = Microsoft. Anti-competitive and anti-consumer to the end.

http://clusty.com/search?query=nvidia+batman+arkham+asylum&tb=opensearch&

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33960034

http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=nvidia+amd+physx

http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=nvidia+cheat

And the list goes on and on.

Nvidia = Intel = Microsoft. Anti-competitive and anti-consumer to the end.

http://clusty.com/search?query=intel+monopoly

http://clusty.com/search?query=intel+apartheid

http://clusty.com/search?query=intel+monopoly

http://clusty.com/search?query=intel+apartheid

Clusty does in fact have image search.

Well, for one thing, searching for mozilla recommends bing doesn't return any hits relevant to this story. Unlike Google. And Bing.

I google with http://clusty.com/
It gives me much better results as well. I do not care for 500.000.000 results. I want to get to the information as fast as possible.

Maybe MS mean that Bing will ahve a clustering interface like, for example, Clusty. The previous version of this used the same sort of suggestion algorithm as Google suggest does, and used those suggested searches to group the results. This provides a better organisation of the results, which is very nice when searching for documentation of old hardware with missing or incomplete identification.

What strikes me is what is obviously missing in Adbuster's paper. They say Google is bad, but don't even mention the possibility to switch to another search engine. There is none, no list could be provided.
They must not hate Google in the end.

OK, the impact of n Adbusters users leaving Google may be harder to track than staying and clicking everywhere. Yes. For those who 1) use Firefox + 2) have broadband access + 3) install the extension.
I'd say, 50% of /. users will do this. And, 0.003% of the rest of the world.

My advice: use Clusty. The only one that sometimes indeed is more efficient, thanks to clustering.
http://clusty.com/

Use an entirely free search engine that works just as well with a better privacy policy.

I already do.

Just use http://www.clusty.com/ . The search results are just as good as google, and it generates a list of categories that you can select from.

Admittedly, "mechanical" isn't in there... The categories are quite a bit more specific, such as "baby", "shark" "wisdom", "cleaner", etc.

http://clusty.com/

Clusty is a search engine which does not track you. You can read their privacy policy. No cookies.

http://clusty.com/

And it is easy to forget how good it used to be. I did a search to see on how to watercool (is that even a word?) my videocard. I get some 500.000 hits on buying the card with some links to watercooling that I can also buy or the other way arround.

After adding a lot of + and - in the search, the nuber went down, but still no result.

I used to type one or two words and got what I was looking for. Now I need to expand my search result to show at least 50 on the first page to be sure that I can find something that is interesting to me.

More and more I start using http://clusty.com/ that puts it in nice groups (or clusters) where I can filter out things I do not want much easier.

A search for "watercooling videocard" gives me 536.000 results on Google and 2.042 on clusty.com and I rather have those 2.000 that are relevant then the shitload that Google gives me and where I must look around and do a search in the result.

I use clusty.com for searches. The results seem to be of the same quality as google's, and their privacy policy is much better.

Now I just need a good way to access usenet. My ISP dropped usenet access last month. I tried buying access from octanews.com, and they ripped me off (currently going through the chargeback process with the credit card company). So now I'm the proud owner of the email address ineverreadmailsenttothis@yahoo.com, which I used to register a google account so I can post on usenet via google groups. Yech. Anyone know a good company to buy a cheap block access (*not* monthly) usenet account from?

There are a lot of other search engines out there. I use clusty.com myself. While it has Google-style ads, it doesn't have any connection to Google, AFAIK. It also doesn't censor its results just to do business in non-democratic countries -- the major reason I abandoned Google.

There are a lot of other search engines out there. I use clusty.com myself. While it has Google-style ads, it doesn't have any connection to Google, AFAIK. It also doesn't censor its results just to do business in non-democratic countries -- the major reason I abandoned Google.

Google realizes that it cannot make money through advertising indefinately...

Right, buying stuff like youtube has nothing to do with the extremely high amount of pageviews and the ability to add ads in their videos either. C'mon, stop being a google fan boy and at least admit that there's nothing google does without thinking about advertising.

Try clusty. It even looks good without adblock ;-)

And one day, I will learn how to make links! clusty.com

Completely correct. However, having a taxonomy of some type is still useful. That's why an automatic taxonomy, generated from your result set, can be extremely useful. Check out clusty.com for an example.

IMHO, there is only one search engine that poses competition, and is (in any way) better than Google, and that is http://www.clusty.com/

If you search for a diverse subject, or a key word that is used many different ways, for many different things, Google just becomes a mess of irrelevent links, and trial-and-error GUESSING what other key words you need to use in conjunction with what you want to find is rather difficult, time consuming, etc.. Clusty actually provides a list on the left of categories.

IMHO, the one problem with Clusty is a higher amount of spam, generally towards the end of the list of results. However, these seem to exclusively come from "Wisenut" results they've included. By visiting the preferences page, you can disable search results from Wisenut quite easily.

Ask: Tries to categorize, but does so incredibly stupidly... A search for "Putty" turns up categories that are all something about "silly putty".

Yahoo: Gives results that aren't much worse than Google most of the time, anymore, but that's not the makings for a real alternative... Just an also-ran.

AllTheWeb: Actually rather funny it's still around... It's a dinosaur. A remnant of the old days, when a search for any subject turned up a bunch of irrelevent links, often to porn. Until recently, hit #3 for "slashdot" was goatse. More ironic, since it appeared just before Google took over the scene, and forced every other (even older) search engine to change.

You might want to try clusty. It has a system akin to what you describe.

I started using Clusty search engine http://clusty.com/ intially because of their privacy policy. I honestly thought, quite scepically, that it wouldn't be much good and within a few weeks I would end up going back to Google. That was one year ago. Fact is, Clusty is a superior search engine and I couldn't live without it now. It's the default search on all my browsers. Once you get the concept, that it clusters data into semantic groups, Google seems like a poor second.

Clusty does something similar. Searching for "Apple" will show categories for OSX and fruit, for instance.

That's because librarians are slow. Those questions can lead to saving a great deal of time off the top.

A search engine is fast, effectively providing a ton of answers in seconds or fractions of seconds. The problem then is that we are slow. We can't go through all the hits as fast as the search engine spits them out.

What would be helpful would be if the search engine clustered results as if in response to the sorts of questions our hypothetical librarian might ask. The Clusty search engine attempts this.

Palladium

For the lazy: Clusty

While computer component manufacturers operating in China are also technically subject to Chinese censorship laws, as a practical matter, such laws are irrelevant because of the nature of their business. Google, by contrast, is an Internet content provider. Unlike computer component makers, in order to legally do business in China, Google necessarily has to be directly involved in enforcing/enabling these odious laws.

The moral (although unprofitable) choice for Google is to not do business in China. And a good choice for those looking for an alternative search engine which doesn't filter its results for any country is, IMO, http://clusty.com/.

Only n00bz and other idiots use Google. Just ClustyFuck it.

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giving away bars of gold and blow jobs.
I have banned access to any and all google IP's and products.
No machine connected to my lan can access anything google has to offer.
Boycott google.
use Clusty --> http://clusty.com/

I live where Rita struck in 05. We took a direct hit from the eye, I live at ground zero.
I brought up google maps and google earth (linux) and both are showing POST hurricane photos, at least for the area that Rita hit..
I even know the approximate date of the photos because of my roof and yard, I put a white metal roof on the house in spring of 06 but still had trees down in the back yard, so it's my guess that the google maps photos of our area were taken around April or May of 06.

The previous google photos of our area were at least 10 years old.
Several other aerial photo services such as M$ and two or three others all have very outdated photos of our area.

I still think google is evil to the core and I avoid using them at all costs, I won't use google search at all anymore, I prefer http://clusty.com/

Google made my list of sucky corporations a long time ago.
I've banned google from my network. There's a new search engine in town.
http://clusty.com/

See ya google.

Thanks for the suggestion. For the curious, it is now called Clusty.

http://www.vivisimo.com/ is the company.

however, their search engine can be found here: http://clusty.com/ , which also appears to be in the list.
maybe you also want to re-bookmark it, as the page is much nicer :)

I stopped using google. Here are some alternatives:

Scroogle (uses Google)
Clusty

I started using Clusty a few months ago. It does a good job, though occasionally I can't find something with it. In those rare situations I use Scroogle.

PayPal Inc.
2211 North First Street
San Jose, CA 95131
(402) 935-2050 (thanks for the 1-800...)

At least that's what the WHOIS record says. It's also buried in different places around the site.

Worse, connection to the live blacklist is optional, so you may be browsing with an antique blacklist.

I've been using Clusty for the last 18 months. A meta-searchengine combined with a Wikipedia-search, the best of both worlds!

I just tried the clusty cloud technology. Way cool: http://cloud.clusty.com/

You can even have the results generated in the 'Slashdot Green' color.

Actually, the suck-iest (is that a word?) search engine name is Clusty. Oddly enough, the name of Clusty's parent company, Vivisimo, is probably also ahead of A9 on the "suck meter".

The weird thing about it is that I believe Clusty's seach engine is much better than Google. Go ahead and try it, check out how it clusters the results.

http://clusty.com/search?query=QTFairUse6

I would also provide a link to /files/31103061/QTFairUse6-1.0.zip.html on rapidshare.de, but that would be wrong.

Vivísimo does not rent, sell, or share its server logs with other people or non-affiliated companies except under the following circumstances:

• We provide the information to companies who work on behalf of or with Vivísimo under confidentiality agreements. However, these companies do not have any independent right to share this information.
• We may share with third parties certain pieces of aggregated, non-personal information. For example, the number of searches for a particular term, or how many clicks occurred on a particular advertisement.
• We respond to subpoenas, court orders, or legal process, or to establish or exercise our legal rights or defend against legal claims.
• We believe it is necessary to share information in order to investigate, prevent, or take action regarding illegal activities, suspected fraud, situations involving potential threats to the physical safety of any person, violations of Vivísimo's terms of use, or as otherwise required by law. When you click on an advertising or revenue-generating search result, Vivísimo Web Search Services are contacted, do record information, and such information may be shared with affiliated sites.
• Vivísimo works with vendors, partners, and other service providers in different industries and categories of business. For more information regarding providers of products or services that you've requested please read our detailed product and solution information.

Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal information about you with other people or nonaffiliated companies except to provide products or services you've requested, when we have your permission, or under the following circumstances:

• We provide the information to trusted partners who work on behalf of or with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These companies may use your personal information to help Yahoo! communicate with you about offers from Yahoo! and our marketing partners. However, these companies do not have any independent right to share this information.
• We have a parent's permission to share the information if the user is a child under age 13. Parents have the option of allowing Yahoo! to collect and use their child's information without consenting to Yahoo! sharing of this information with people and companies who may use this information for their own purposes;
• We respond to subpoenas, court orders, or legal process, or to establish or exercise our legal rights or defend against legal claims;
• We believe it is necessary to share information in order to investigate, prevent, or take action regarding illegal activities, suspected fraud, situations involving potential threats to the physical safety of any person, violations of Yahoo!'s terms of use, or as otherwise required by law.
• We transfer information about you if Yahoo! is acquired by or merged with another company. In this event, Yahoo! will notify you before information about you is transferred and becomes subject to a different privacy policy.

Clusty has an excellent privacy policy. I'm going to try using them for a while and see if the results are comparable in quality to google's.

And before anyone says that you don't need to worry if you aren't doing anything illegal, try reading up on the history of the FBI. They had a massive file on Einstein, who, e.g., belonged to "communist front" organizations like the the American Crusade to End Lynching. Check out the Wikipedia article on COINTELPRO, especially the part about the murder of civil rights activist Viola Liuzzo (by a carload of Klansman with an FBI agent riding along), and the FBI's subsequent smear campaign against Liuzzo.

Do not forget that
a) Google keeps a permanent cookie
b) If you ever used gmail, that same cookie has been linked to your permanent cookie

We need something that will keep those results private, something such as:
a) Greasmonkey/adblock setup to disallow google searches access to the cookie
b) Automated searching tools that will pollute ones searches with fakes,
c) Deeper leveled (ie Proxomitron / privoxy ) scripts that clear this out

and while here, I would like to talk about clusty.com, they have a fantastic privacy policy, I encourage you to read it: http://clusty.com/privacy

To exemplify my point, take a look at the differences between the results of a Google search for "record" vs. a Clusty search for "record". Clusty's results are much, much, much better:

• http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=record
• http://clusty.com/search?query=record

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pick your poison. There's more than just google.

Top clusters?

http://clusty.com/search?input-form=simple-clusty& query=lesbian+porn

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From Clusty:

http://clusty.com/search?query=Who+is+the+presiden t+of+united+states

First cluster: "Bush"