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Microsoft Rebrands Live Search As "Bing"

JacobSteelsmith writes "Microsoft is attempting to re-brand its Live Search, also known as Kumo. Bing, as it's known, is another attempt by Microsoft to lure consumers away from Internet search leaders such as Google. Microsoft has posted a quarterly loss in its online advertising business, compared to Google's sales, $4.7 billion in the first quarter. According to the Live Search blog, Bing goes 'beyond the traditional search engines to help you make faster, more informed decisions' by combining a 'great search engine' with organized results. It also adds unique tools to help the user make important decisions. It is being touted as a 'decision engine.'"

443 comments

  1. Hmmmm... by skrolle2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Here, let me bing that for you."

    Hmmmm... No.

    1. Re:Hmmmm... by lavacano201014 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bing! Fries are done! Hmm. Progress, but still no dice...

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    2. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That said it's a marked improvement on Kumo.

      "Here, let me kumo that for you."

    3. Re:Hmmmm... by BabyDuckHat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh wait, nevermind. I already squirted it.

    4. Re:Hmmmm... by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 1

      Well to be fair it's not really that much worse than squirting someone a song from your Zune.

    5. Re:Hmmmm... by joe_cot · · Score: 1

      Makes sense to me. Microsoft sees other companies making truckloads full of money (read: mostly VC funding) with their cool Web 2.0 names (Digg, Twitter, ZigZagZoodilyDoo). Microsoft goes where the money is.

    6. Re:Hmmmm... by FesterDaFelcher · · Score: 1

      This ZigZagZoodilyDoo you speak of, I would like some more information. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?

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    7. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they still need a theme song for their upcoming marketing campaign.

      perhaps "My Bing-a-Ling"

    8. Re:Hmmmm... by arminw · · Score: 1

      ...Here, let me bing that for you...

      Here, let me eat those bing cherries for you. Microsoft has a real cherry here!

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    9. Re:Hmmmm... by Rary · · Score: 1

      "Here, let me bing that for you."

      Hmmmm... No.

      You joke, but that's probably exactly what they're going for. I'm sure Steve Ballmer "fucking hates" the fact that people use "google" as a verb meaning "to search on the web". His last attempt to create hip new lingo ("squirt") was a dud (even though I've found the product itself to be actually quite good). Now he's trying it again.

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    10. Re:Hmmmm... by NatasRevol · · Score: 1
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    11. Re:Hmmmm... by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      How do all of these VCs actually plan to monetize their investments in those cool Web 2.0 names? Do those social networking sites actually make any substantial non-advertising money? In an age when the American consumer is broke and the national credit card is maxed out how can money continue to pour into advertising? Besides, even if the social networking web 2.0 sites do start doing advertising or requiring subscriptions then someone will start up ZigZagZoodilyDoo with no Ads (at least to start) and pull away all of those fickle customers who don't have anything to spend anyway. The whole thing seems almost completely stupid to me. Who can possibly have 1,000+ "friends"? It doesn't make sense ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit!

    12. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they're going to need a name that sounds professional if they want to take on Google.

      Wait...

    13. Re:Hmmmm... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Hmmm, that's peculiar.

      Your search - ZigZagZoodilyDoo - did not match any documents.

      Suggestions:

      • Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
      • Try different keywords.
      • Try more general keywords.

      Personally, I think ZigZagZoodilyDoo is a heckuva lot better than "Bing!" Better hurry up and register it before Microsoft does!

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    14. Re:Hmmmm... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well to be fair it's not really that much worse than squirting someone a song from your Zune.

      Actually, it's much better for you to bing than than to squirt anything from your Zune if you live in Quebec.

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    15. Re:Hmmmm... by lightknight · · Score: 1

      I gotta ask. What new technology is behind this "Bing" search?

      I mean, I, like everyone on ./, can think of a thousand pun-related variations off of the word "Bing", but what exactly is a "Decision engine"? It feels like more rebranding of the old stuff, less on the new technology.

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    16. Re:Hmmmm... by CarpetShark · · Score: 4, Funny

      Microsoft staggers in the general direction of where the money is.

      There, fixed that for you.

    17. Re:Hmmmm... by tb3 · · Score: 1

      Ha! The joke's on him. The Zune web site is crawling with references to 'podcasting'.

      Guess what the 'pod' part of 'podcasting' refers to?

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    18. Re:Hmmmm... by geobeck · · Score: 1

      If Steve-o was the one naming it, it would be called the "FuckingKill" search engine.

      Well, the search action would be a lot more catchy than "Make sure you bing that company before buying anything from them."

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    19. Re:Hmmmm... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      So you're saying that Microsoft is so desperate for cash that they're looking for VC funding? And am I the only one that freaked out and Googled ZigZagZoodilyDoo because I had never heard of it?

    20. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....?

      Bing!

    21. Re:Hmmmm... by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      Kumbing, the new internet pass time.

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    22. Re:Hmmmm... by daveime · · Score: 4, Funny

      A more apt name from Steve would have been "Fling" ... I'm thinking chairs here.

    23. Re:Hmmmm... by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      "Decision engine" = cheap clone of Wolfram|Alpha = experiment that might or might not be better than Google.

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    24. Re:Hmmmm... by professorflipwig · · Score: 1

      It is an engine Microsoft uses to make decisions for you!

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    25. Re:Hmmmm... by aaron+alderman · · Score: 1

      Too late. Bill Cosby owns it already.

    26. Re:Hmmmm... by jo42 · · Score: 1

      "Bada Bing!" is what you proclaim when you actually find something on But It No Google.

    27. Re:Hmmmm... by SlashWombat · · Score: 1

      How about "Let me BONG that for you? (What were they smoking?)

    28. Re:Hmmmm... by sharkey · · Score: 1

      After said flinging, he is so excited that he squirts?

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    29. Re:Hmmmm... by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      They should have called it B|ng.

    30. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No its more along the lines of "Bing back the Bling" this is just a money train on a crash course. http://pics.livejournal.com/bingbackdabling/pic/000011se Hilarious.

  2. I think they might have someone by geekoid · · Score: 0

    starting to think. It's a great name, too bad the momentum has been lost.

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    1. Re:I think they might have someone by sznupi · · Score: 4, Funny

      You forgot "~" at the end of first sentence.

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    2. Re:I think they might have someone by UltraAyla · · Score: 1

      I really do think that this summary was pretty unfair to it. This really doesn't seem to be a rebranding, but actually a pretty solid rewrite of the features. I read a WIRED article on it earlier today and it sounded interesting - a little like the offspring of Wolfram|Alpha and Google. See http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/05/microsofts-bing-hides-its-best-features/

    3. Re:I think they might have someone by geekoid · · Score: 1

      No I'm serious.
      It's a very catchy name. I'm, it certianly isn't worse then google. Who caught a bit of crap for there name, back in the day.

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    4. Re:I think they might have someone by bigblackcar · · Score: 1

      Bing? Like Chandler Bing? Another unlucky comedian connection for MS.

    5. Re:I think they might have someone by xtracto · · Score: 1

      No I'm serious.
      It's a very catchy name. I'm[sic], it certianly[sic] isn't worse then[sic] google. Who caught a bit of crap for there [sic]name, back in the day.

      The problem with such kind of names is that they *already* mean something, thus to attach them the new meaning will be more difficult.

      Google on the other side, didn't mean anything on the first place (just the name of a new company) and its "verbness" has evolved after the service provided by the company.

      p.s. Yes, I am a Mexican grammar Nazi. If I can write English correctly why can't you?

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  3. Bing? Seriously? by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 4, Funny

    So what's the new branding going to be after this one fails? Bong?

  4. Otto by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Cherry site, Dude.

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    1. Re:Otto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Bing] Cherry site, Dude.

      Sorry dude, the mods are a bit slow today.

  5. We use the search engine that goes bing! by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Funny

    This has Monty Python written all over it.

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    1. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe that was PING!

    2. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by Kaki+Nix+Sain · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here is the link for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc

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    3. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe that was PING!

      Pinging bing.com [207.46.104.147] with 32 bytes of data:
      Request timed out.
      Request timed out.
      Request timed out.
      Request ti--look, User, this isn't pinging. A ping is a connected series of ICMP transmissions intended to verify a path between a server and a client. Pinging is an bidirectional process. This is just the automatic blackholing of any packet your client generates.

    4. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      And give MS more publicity? NEVER!

    5. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by DiscountBorg(TM) · · Score: 1

      *covers ears* Don't say that word! Suffice to say, is one of the words the Knights of Ni cannot hear!

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    6. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by hoooocheymomma · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you can use it to search for Holy Grails?

    7. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say Bing at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.

    8. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps bing can help diagnose the problem.

    9. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by VisceralLogic · · Score: 1

      What is thy bidding, my Master?ping www.bing.com
      PING a134.g.akamai.net (207.114.197.81): 56 data bytes
      64 bytes from 207.114.197.81: icmp_seq=0 ttl=60 time=129.300 ms
      64 bytes from 207.114.197.81: icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=127.930 ms
      64 bytes from 207.114.197.81: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=183.672 ms
      64 bytes from 207.114.197.81: icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=176.953 ms /code)

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    10. Re:We use the search engine that goes bing! by thane777 · · Score: 1

      Who knew the machine the goes "Bing!" came from Microsoft?

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  6. quarterly loss versus sales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in one sentence, you attempted to compare Microsoft's posting a loss on search with Google's 4.6B in 'sales'.

    you're comparing apples and oranges, aren't you?

  7. organized results by Narpak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bing goes 'beyond the traditional search engines to help you make faster, more informed decisions' by combining a 'great search engine' with organized results.

    Organized Results as in "higher rating the more you pay us"?

    1. Re:organized results by jonbryce · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Organised as in for example, you type in a particular model of a camera, and the results are organised between - where to buy, reviews, how to use the thing, etc.

      It sounds quite good, if it works as described.

    2. Re:organized results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Alternately:

      "Where to buy X"
      "Reviews of X"
      "How to use X"

      The end user is not made of stupid, you know.

    3. Re:organized results by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Funny

      Could their results be any more organised?

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    4. Re:organized results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      Wow, this is why you should be marked funny...wow, that is funny :)

    5. Re:organized results by aurasdoom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      3 searches instead of one. Hm...

    6. Re:organized results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, like Google.

    7. Re:organized results by theurge14 · · Score: 1

      (insert Janice laughter)

    8. Re:organized results by Philip_the_physicist · · Score: 1

      Maybe MS mean that Bing will ahve a clustering interface like, for example, Clusty. The previous version of this used the same sort of suggestion algorithm as Google suggest does, and used those suggested searches to group the results. This provides a better organisation of the results, which is very nice when searching for documentation of old hardware with missing or incomplete identification.

  8. Here's the problem by rob1980 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bing goes 'beyond the traditional search engines to help you make faster, more informed decisions' by combining a 'great search engine' with organized results.

    They change the search engine's name in an effort to draw a crowd, then they fuck it up by weighing it down with language that's awful damn close to the infinitely-scalable enterprise class web 2.0 productivity enhancement solution corporatespeak that makes people roll their eyes.

    1. Re:Here's the problem by hypnotik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh. No, that language has been around since Windows 95, when they promised us that it was the "fastest, most secure version of Windows yet" and that everything we do "will be more fun!"

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    2. Re:Here's the problem by kjart · · Score: 1

      "Informed decisions" and "organized results" are somehow corporatespeak? I think you are trying to find something that isn't actually there.

    3. Re:Here's the problem by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1
      This isn't really surprising.

      After all, We're talking about the company that named its "cloud computing" platform after the color of a cloudless sky...

    4. Re:Here's the problem by LaskoVortex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Informed decisions" and "organized results" are somehow corporatespeak?

      Perhaps. But 'beyond the traditional search engines' is some BS if I ever heard it. Hint: it's the internet, not a box of cereal. Google won because it was fast and lightweight. Google will continue to win because it is fastest and lightest-weight. No amount of BS is going to change the formula. Even if MS were to create a fast and lightweight search interface, they would weigh it down in no time flat because they couldn't help themselves.

      Since my guess is that you work for MS, I'll give you some advice: fast, light weight, and clean. Ring a bell?

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    5. Re:Here's the problem by professorflipwig · · Score: 1

      BS... Bing System!! It works on so many levels.

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  9. Would you wear this? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    I thought it was "bling" but the cool factor was lost on me.

  10. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what's the new branding going to be after this one fails? Bong?

    Actually it would be Bob...

  11. My first thought... by jav1231 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ned: "Guess who!"
    Phil: "Ned? Ned Ryerson?"
    Ned: "BING!"

    1. Re:My first thought... by kelzer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yup. Another example of that brilliant Microsoft marketing machine we've all heard about.

      I mean, when I think of cool and trendy, I think of Ned Ryerson. Wouldn't everyone want to buy insurance from that guy? Wouldn't everyone want him to do their searches?

      The truth is that Microsoft has never had much marketing ability. They just have tons of cash to throw at it, and they've always been good at leveraging monopoly power in one market to win the next. They leveraged their PC DOS monopoly to win the PC GUI environment market with Windows. They leveraged that to win the office suite market. They used their office suite dominance to wipe out Novell by giving big corporations huge Office discounts if they replaced their Novell servers with NT Server. They then leveraged NT Server's dominance to gain dominance in Back Office products like Exchange and IIS. Marketing has had little to do with their success. They of course also tied IE to Windows to thwart Netscape. And every time you installed a new copy of IE it defaulted to msn.com as the home page, otherwise MSN never would have had any market share. The list goes on and on.

      We finally come to search engines. Other than making Windows and/or IE default to using Live Search, or whatever it gets rebranded to, they really just don't have much power to tie it to any of the markets they currently dominate.

      Guess only time will tell, but I'll be amazed if they gain more than a percent or two from Google in the search market, because I can't see any compelling reason to switch from what I've read so far.

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    2. Re:My first thought... by ILikeRed · · Score: 1

      Punxsutawney Phil! Thank you, I was racking my brain for a reference I knew I was missing!

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    3. Re:My first thought... by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

      Honestly this is the first thing I thought of. The scary thing is, you can kind of tell this is trying to be a verb.

      That and "can I be any more Chandler"

      Can I be any more hopeless trying to catch google?

    4. Re:My first thought... by dwiget001 · · Score: 1

      Groundhog's Day, one of my all time fave movies!

      And remember: "Don't drive angry!"

    5. Re:My first thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...which inspired this:
      http://bingnedryerson.ytmnd.com/

    6. Re:My first thought... by hoooocheymomma · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well technically, what you're describing *IS* marketing. Creating buzz through advertizing and branding are but one facet of the big picture of marketing.

      MS is better at marketing in the opposite direction. They sneak their products in under your nose so that all you know is their products. When this strategy is not an option, they try to do the whole branding thing, and fail miserably at that.

      I'm not sure it matters either way though. I hate when companies get too much selling power through any marketing techniques, be it MS, Apple, or Google.

      What seems more important to me, though, is that Bing is supposed to be a 'decision engine'. I feel like Google's search is so successful because they largely keep it simple in terms of 'making decisions' for the user. I think a huge flaw in a lot of the design of MS products is that they tend to insult the user by making a lot of decisions for him. Windows does it all the time by hiding known extensions, hiding system files, etc. I think they might be headed in the wrong direction if they think they can help users use search engines better than they have been for the past 10 years. I think we know how to find what we need.

    7. Re:My first thought... by kelzer · · Score: 1

      True. Technically, almost everything is marketing. The selection of products, and their features, are marketing. Setting prices is marketing. Etc.

      But the general public tends to think of marketing as being synonymous with advertising. I mean, think of how many times you've heard the phrase "sales and marketing" when in fact sales is a part of marketing.

      Over the years when Microsoft has been given credit for its marketing prowess it's my opinion that it's their advertising that people are usually talking about.

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    8. Re:My first thought... by hey! · · Score: 1

      The truth is that Microsoft has never had much marketing ability.

      That's definitely not true. "Marketing" is not something monolithic. Companies have positions, identities, brands -- even cultures -- that work better or worse in different market segments.

      What Microsoft has never been good at is marketing to consumers.

      It's always been good at marketing to institutions like large companies. It designs and manages its products in a way that keep them on the treadmill. It doesn't mean they hit a home run 100% of the time, or that they aren't vulnerable to game changing trends like open source, but they've done as well as you can reasonably expect any commercial outfit to do, going after the people in suits. I'm not a gamer, but I wonder whether XBox marketing works the same. Don't game titles largely drive console sales? So you've got to get, I dunno, a little, sweaty voice in the back of my head keeps saying, "developers!!! developers!!! developers!!!"

      Now Apple is wonderful at marketing to consumers, but has never showed a knack for marketing to institutions. It makes you wonder whether a company has to be one or the other.

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    9. Re:My first thought... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Ned: Hey, hey! Now, don't you tell me you don't remember me because I sure as heckfire remember you.
      Phil: Not a chance.
      Ned: Ned... Ryerson. "Needlenose Ned"? "Ned the Head"? C'mon, buddy. Case Western High. Ned Ryerson: I did the whistling belly-button trick at the high school talent show? Bing! Ned Ryerson: got the shingles real bad senior year, almost didn't graduate? Bing, again. Ned Ryerson: I dated your sister Mary Pat a couple times until you told me not to anymore? Well?
      Phil: Ned Ryerson?
      Ned: Bing!
      Phil: Bing.

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    10. Re:My first thought... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Chandler: From now on, I have no first name.
      Joey: So - you're just Bing?
      Chandler: I have no name.
      Phoebe: All right, so what are we supposed to call you?
      Chandler: Okay, for now, temporarily, you can call me... Clint.
      Joey: No way are you cool enough to pull off Clint.
      Chandler: Okay, so what name am I cool enough to pull off?
      Phoebe: Um... Gene.
      Chandler: It's Clint. It's Clint.
      Joey: See ya later, Gene.
      Phoebe: Bye, Gene.
      Chandler: It's Clint. Clint.
      Joey: What's up with Microsoft?

    11. Re:My first thought... by Kagura · · Score: 2, Funny

      They leveraged that to win the office suite market.

      They actually have a pretty kickass office suite. If there's one thing Microsoft does 99% well, it's Office.

    12. Re:My first thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ned Ryersonized Search Portal:

      http://msbing.atspace.com/

  12. Give up by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MS should seriously just stop trying to "improve" search engines. Its not profitable, labels you as a "Google clone", and unless you have some pretty neat features that can beat Google and iGoogle, you won't end up capturing any marketshare. Sure, there are some things that you could do with searching, such as desktop searches that aren't painfully slow that require tons of indexing, perhaps using algorithms to "guess" where files are placed? All that would be better for MS, but instead they go into the already saturated market with yet another search engine, how many do they have now? MSN, Live, and now Bing? Seriously, stop trying to be Google, you aren't and unless you happen to be really really good at what you do (and from past experiences in trying to be Google you aren't good at it) you won't get any marketshare despite how many ads you run and how many OEMs you bribe to set as the default homepage.

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    1. Re:Give up by DiscountBorg(TM) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's kind of what microsoft does though--copy other ideas and then market them until they stick. Windows (copied from Mac, Amiga), Internet Explorer, the zune, heck even direct3D, you name it...

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    2. Re:Give up by noidentity · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MS should seriously just stop trying to "improve" search engines.

      They're trying to improve their profit, not their search engine. More users = more eyeballs = more advertising income.

    3. Re:Give up by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unfortunately, they are once again just binging their head against a wall.

    4. Re:Give up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      MS should seriously just stop trying to "improve" search engines. Its not profitable, labels you as a "Google clone", and unless you have some pretty neat features that can beat Google and iGoogle, you won't end up capturing any marketshare.

      This same attitude showed up in the Zune HD story. I find it an idiotic viewpoint. Because one company has done something really well, nobody else should try? Do you seriously want people to stop trying to compete and trying to one-up other companies, just because the existing product or service seems to be all you could ever want?

      You want things to stagnate?

      Granted, we know MS will fail. But suggesting that they shouldn't try seems positively idiotic.

    5. Re:Give up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      sure but how is Microsoft going to "fucking kill" Google unless they compete head to head?

      Ballmer has promises to keep and i don't think he's focused on dollars and sense[sic]

    6. Re:Give up by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Since I'm out of mod points, I'm plagiarizing the above AC post.
      Mod him up if you agree:

      This same attitude showed up in the Zune HD story. I find it an idiotic viewpoint. Because one company has done something really well, nobody else should try? Do you seriously want people to stop trying to compete and trying to one-up other companies, just because the existing product or service seems to be all you could ever want?

      You want things to stagnate?

      Granted, we know MS will fail. But suggesting that they shouldn't try seems positively idiotic.

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    7. Re:Give up by eulernet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      how many OEMs you bribe to set as the default homepage.

      I bet the most searched word on Bing will be "Google", since clueless users search for their search engine, rather than configure correctly their IE browser.

    8. Re:Give up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let them try to compete if they want. There's only upside (at least, for those of us who don't work for Google -- and, maybe even for those that do).

      I mean, seriously, I see this type of statement all the time about MSFT's search efforts: give up, give up, give up.

      Presumably, the authors of these opinions hate Microsoft because they monopolized a market and that lead to things it always does for consumers: slower innovation, higher prices, customer indifference, arrogance, etc.

      The irony, and my point, is that the argument being put forth ("give up, submit to Google's dominance) will lead to exactly the environment that lead to the hate that lead them to write the argument.

      It's bizarre. Even if you believe Google will never "do evil", at the very least, let Microsoft keep trying so that you can make fun of them, so that they have fewer resources to dominate other areas, etc. As Napoleon said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".

    9. Re:Give up by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      ...and unless you have some pretty neat features that can beat Google...

      That's exactly the point. They believe they DO have some pretty neat features that can beat Google. Or they will (Bing is still in development and not yet available to the public).

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      $x='S24;r)>63/* h@<5+oZ)32"5cz';$me='phroggy'x$];
      $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
    10. Re:Give up by GooberToo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Finally someone that figured it out.

      Microsoft is not a technology company. They have not been a technology company for well over a decade. Microsoft is, rather than a tech company, one of the world's most powerful marketing companies. They just happen to be a marketing company that does some development too.

      I used to challenge people to name three MS technology innovations. To date, no one has been able to do it. True tech companies innovate.

    11. Re:Give up by tabdelgawad · · Score: 1

      What a ridiculous position! Everybody on Slashdot who's not a Google employee should be rooting for Microsoft to succeed. Competition is good, people!

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    12. Re:Give up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      We could apply the same logic 10 years ago.

      Google should seriously just stop trying to "improve" search engines. Its not profitable, labels you as a "Yahoo! clone", and unless you have some pretty neat features that can beat Yahoo! and My Yahoo!, you won't end up capturing any marketshare.

    13. Re:Give up by ATL_gadget_grrl · · Score: 1

      BING = "Big Idea: Nick Google!"

    14. Re:Give up by Mr+Europe · · Score: 1

      Microsoft's trying seems so pathetic. It is hard to thibk any way the old dinosaur MS could anyway create anything better search engine than google and (soon ready) Wolfram Alpha. There is no space between.

    15. Re:Give up by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 1

      Because one company has done something really well, nobody else should try?

      Agreed. Before Google, there was Yahoo; before Microsoft, there was IBM; before Slashdot, "Bored and confused geeks would scribble 'First Post' in the sand". All progress stems from prior art.

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    16. Re:Give up by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      All that would be better for MS, but instead they go into the already saturated market with yet another search engine, how many do they have now? MSN, Live, and now Bing?

      You forgot Wolfram | Alpha. Since I started using it, I've never needed anything else - a true Google killer.

    17. Re:Give up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft tries... fails.

      Microsoft tries... fails.

      Microsoft tries... momentum.

      Microsoft tries.. market dominance.

      Say what you will, but we've seen this happen before.

    18. Re:Give up by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      chair-throwing, embrace extend extinguish, and paying small companies large sums of money to randomly sue the competition (i.e. SCO).

      You didn't say anything about those innovations having to be useful or indeed to have any redeeming value whatsoever.

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  13. Feed me your data. by DiscountBorg(TM) · · Score: 1, Troll

    Thanks Microsoft, but as I value my online privacy, I'll stick with Scroogle instead.

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    "The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." George Bernard Shaw
    1. Re:Feed me your data. by doti · · Score: 1

      Interesting, but I can't make a search with the URL, hence no quicksearch (as in http: // google.com/search?q=%s).

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    2. Re:Feed me your data. by DiscountBorg(TM) · · Score: 1

      True. Evidently a work in progress.

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      "The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." George Bernard Shaw
  14. I can already tell it's going to suck... by DavidR1991 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...because the video shows a big image/background at the top. That's great, but part of the other reason Google is the leader (other than the results it produces) is the fact the page is a no-nonsense zone - sure, you've got the Google logo, but other than that, the page consists nearly entirely of blank space, or text/links. No stupid pointless pictures, no needless button images. It's fast, and it works. Once 'Bing' gets up to capacity though, I reckon it'll be dog slow, because it has useless decor. The search engine isn't the destination: So why the pointless crap?

    1. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      That seems petty, but you are absolutely right. Whenever this crap shows up on a site, I just move on. I don't want to be manipulated into watching a damn commercial.

                Brett

    2. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like live.com has today? Live has a big image loaded async after the page loads. It's always been snappy for me (it's been in production for quite a while, so I'm assuming it's "up to capacity", whatever that means). Since it's an async op, it doesn't stop you from going ahead and searching before the load is complete.

      Oh, sorry, forgot it's slashdot... you probably haven't actually tried anything but the crowd-recommended solution.

    3. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, sorry, forgot it's slashdot... you probably haven't actually tried anything but the crowd-recommended solution.

      Yeah, it's totally lame and not nonconformist to use a search engine that doesn't suck.

    4. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Mia'cova · · Score: 1

      If you're going to try this, you also need to set your country to United States. Just click the link along the top for the list of choices. I don't know which other countries, if any, the daily background image works for. Today's shot is a nice one of the Rio Grande..

      http://www.live.com/hps/RioGrande_EN-US822195324.jpg

      People archive the backgrounds so you can search for past ones too if desired.

    5. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Chazerizer · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is going to be designed for people who are actually clueless. I give you a direct quote from the page on the site. "While more searchable information is cool, nearly half of all searches don't result in the answer that people are seeking." I don't know about you, but I only fail to get the information I want if I'm looking for something really esoteric or poorly defined, like what the name of the bar is next door to where Fuddruckers used to be on the North Shore, or the name of the guy who invented the Eton Wall Game. You can't get that information on the web because it doesn't exist there (and may not exist anywhere). The problem with most of these comments is who they come from. Slashdotters (like myself), typically don't have a ton of problems with the internet. This isn't designed around us. It's designed for people who really have no idea how the whole thing works.

    6. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Look at the difference between gmail and hotmail. Gmail has a clean interface, and it's quick and snappy. The newly-redesigned (yet still crappy) hotmail has a cluttered, less usable interface full of minor annoyances, AND it's a sluggish buggy piece of shit.

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    7. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The background image (including the "hotspots" that link to searches related to the image) is loaded asynchronously after the page (including the search box) is rendered, so the image itself should not slow down a user.

      http://blogs.msdn.com/livesearch/archive/2008/07/30/new-home-page-aims-to-help-you-explore-more-on-the-web.aspx

    8. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Total page size for Google is 33kb, Bing/Kumo is 111kb. (Unless you have Google custom home on. Then google is much larger). Takes about 150ms longer for me to load Bing/Kumo. Not really a big deal as long has MS has the servers to back up the extra load.
       
      What it will really come down to is which service gives the results you want more easily. The time you spend analysing the SERP dwarfs the load time in both cases.

    9. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by whistlingtony · · Score: 1

      Amen!

      The no nonsense google home page is what lured me there in the first place. I was still using a ... modem.... at the time. Not loading crappy pictures was a feature to me, and still is. Go Google!

      That, and I don't want to see ads. When I'm shopping, I do want to see them, and lo, there they are. The rest of the time they should get the hell out of my way.

      -T

    10. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll give you google has a clean, no-nonsense interface, but actually try Live/Bing before you decide it's slow.

      The background image is loaded asynchronously after the page is complete and accepting input. It's actually kind of slick.

      Maybe you like or dislike the appearance, but it is quite snappy.

    11. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by pHus10n · · Score: 0

      The base i'm stationed at is in the middle of nowhere, so my iPhone cannot get a 3G signal. I loathe letting my wife check her Yahoo email on the phone because it takes so god damned long to download. As for my Gmail account, it only takes a few seconds. That's why I stick with Google for so much. Clean, fast, and efficient.

    12. Re:I can already tell it's going to suck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well - one company specializes in providing the information and tools you need, the other company has an interest in pressuring consumers to buy new computers. I wonder which company will provide a faster web surfing experience... ?

  15. But What If ... by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bing! Fries are done! Hmm. Progress, but still no dice...

    True, however:

    Developer One: "You know that hot girl I met at the bar last night?"
    Developer Two: "Yeah?"
    Developer One: "I bing'd her."
    Developer Two: "No way! What did you find?"
    Developer One: "Bing says she's categorized as head of a right wing conservative group that attracts females and funnels money into Karl Rove."
    Developer Two: "Ohhh, dude that sucks, maybe next time?"
    Developer One: "Yeah ... thank god for bing."

    --
    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:But What If ... by XanC · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can I have her number?

    2. Re:But What If ... by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Uh, into what part of Karl Rove are they funneling that money? Sounds... unsanitary.

    3. Re:But What If ... by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 4, Funny
      I bing'd her

      How can you possibly imagine that such a phrase could mean "I searched the web for information on her?" "I bing'd her" can only mean "I banged her," "I nailed her," "I balled her lights out," etc.

    4. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad Microsoft didn't rename it to, "Came all over."

      Developer One: "You know that hot girl I met at the bar last night?"
      Developer Two: "Yeah?"
      Developer One: "I came all over her."
      Developer Two: "No way! What did you find?"
      Developer One: "Who cares?"

    5. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      So you're saying the new pattern for dates will be Bing, Bang, BONG! ?

    6. Re:But What If ... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      "I bing'd her" can only mean "I banged her," "I nailed her," "I balled her lights out," etc.

      You're talking about developers here. They probably read Slashdot, too...

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      That is all.
    7. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rule 34

    8. Re:But What If ... by Duhavid · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can bing it.

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      emt 377 emt 4
    9. Re:But What If ... by coxxx011 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Microsoft obviously wants the street cred that comes with a Friends reference....

      Chandler Bing!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandler_Bing

      "I don't like what the WENOS is telling me!"

    10. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Developer Three: Dude you met Ann Coulter?

    11. Re:But What If ... by davester666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, it's bing, bong, then bang...

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    12. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    13. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Thanks for the citation.
      I'd never heard of "Friends".
      And "TV", what's that all about? Sounds cultish.

    14. Re:But What If ... by Ajaxamander · · Score: 1

      -1 No Hurley photos.

    15. Re:But What If ... by Korin43 · · Score: 1

      Is it really any worse than "I Googled her"? I except we all are used to Googling things now.

    16. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He said hot girl.

    17. Re:But What If ... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I dunno. The word google does vaguely imply searching, looking, grepping. To me anyway.

    18. Re:But What If ... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      I'd say yes, it is, because of what it sounds like (e.g. bang). The worst I can think of for Google is ogle, which I think most people would consider quite a bit more tame.

    19. Re:But What If ... by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      I could imagine someone really screwing up and going bong, bang, bing.
      I wonder if it will have information on STDs...

    20. Re:But What If ... by SlashWombat · · Score: 1

      See at least two things wrong ...

      Bing Crosby ... M$ are using something that is already a proprietary trade name (who'd have guessed!)
      Bing Crosby again ... I'm dreaming of a white Christmas. Its not only racist, but flies in the face of many other religions.
      It's the noise so many things make when their finished.
      In Australia, it is slang for an accident (well, bingle is ...) So I guess it may be appropriate anyway, and potentially descrptive of the search result!

    21. Re:But What If ... by phyrz · · Score: 1

      It sounds like the sound of a lightbulb popping up over someones head in a cartoon. maybe thats what they are getting at?

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      Don't point that gun at him, he's an unpaid intern!
    22. Re:But What If ... by gaspyy · · Score: 1

      The word google does vaguely imply searching, looking, grepping. To me anyway.

      That's because in 10 years you had the time to associate the word "google" with "search".

      For me, non-native English speaker, "google" meant nothing. Yeah, I know it's a misspelling for "goggle" but I never made the connection myself. And nobody in my country uses it as a verb.

      I actually like "Bing". I associate it with "Ping", so "Just bing it!" doesn't sound bad.

    23. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why Microsoft Named Its Search Engine Bing?

      According to PCmag readers:

      But It's Not Google
      Big Investment, No Goals
      Bing Is Not Groovy
      Brought in New Garbage
      Big Incompetent Net Grub
      Bill, It's No Good!
      But It's Nearly Google
      Be Innovative, Not Geeky!

      Source: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2347651,00.asp

    24. Re:But What If ... by Eivind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's because english defaults to sex. Atleast certain kinds of sentences do. And "I [verbed] her" is definitely one of those sentences that tend to mean sex.

    25. Re:But What If ... by Kugrian · · Score: 1

      Phoebe: So let's say I'm the interviewer and I'm meeting you for the first time. Okay. Hi. Come on in, I'm uh, Regina Philange.
      Chandler: Chandler Bing.
      Phoebe: Bing, what an unusual name.
      Chandler: Well you should meet my uncle, Bada.
      [pause]
      Chandler: I'll let myself out.

    26. Re:But What If ... by Krupuk · · Score: 1

      There are languages in which "Bing" is slang for "prison".

    27. Re:But What If ... by Cinder6 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The word google does vaguely imply searching, looking, grepping. To me anyway.

      That's because in 10 years you had the time to associate the word "google" with "search".

      Yeah, I know it's a misspelling for "goggle" but I never made the connection myself.

      You make a good point, but I'd just like to point out that it's a misspelling of "googol" (10^100), not "google" :)

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    28. Re:But What If ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's 867-5309 :D

    29. Re:But What If ... by Nicolay77 · · Score: 1

      For (almost all) native English speakers, "google" also meant nothing.

      That's the good thing about that name.

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      We are Turing O-Machines. The Oracle is out there.
  16. Re:Bing? Seriously? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Bob, where's my bong?"
    "Have you tried looking underneath your belt?"
    "Not that bong, Bob. The other bong."

  17. Bing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could this BE any lamer a name?

  18. Re:Bing? Seriously? by xenolion · · Score: 1

    Bob was first...now he's dead..and I dance around his grave.

  19. Stupid name by js3 · · Score: 1

    I love the meetings that result in this kind of dumb naming. Someone goes through the trouble of creating really nice presentations, hyping up how he has this new ideas and then forces us to attend at 9am Monday morning. 30mins later the uncreative bastards forced to sit through it all agree how awesome it is but somewhere in their dull brains are going "he is serious with this crap?". It eventually gets marketed to world and nobody buys it, sigh.

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    1. Re:Stupid name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      30mins later the uncreative bastards forced to sit through it all agree how awesome it is but somewhere in their dull brains are going "he is serious with this crap?".

      And this is why nothing good ever comes out of a room filled with yes-men.

    2. Re:Stupid name by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      They probably feel as motivated as the Zune team.

      What's that? You want me to beat my head against the wall? What? I should lookup futile in the dictionary?

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    3. Re:Stupid name by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      And this is why nothing good ever comes out of a room filled with yes-men.

      Cue Monty Python skit. I believe one of the employees tried to avoid saying "yes" by saying "splunge":

      Splunge: "It means ... it's a great-idea-but-possibly-not-and-I'm-not-being-indecisive!"

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      "No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai
    4. Re:Stupid name by Locutus · · Score: 1

      No kidding. Microsoft is so good at making effective marketing presentations, they must have been suckered in by their own bull sh|t. Haha.

      LoB

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      "Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
  20. Well, good luck with that. by tedgyz · · Score: 1

    The name has been changed to protect the guilty.

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    "No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai
    1. Re:Well, good luck with that. by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      Thank you Bon Scott.

  21. B.I.N.G.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bing Is Not Google

    1. Re:B.I.N.G.? by BlueKitties · · Score: 1

      GNUNB: GNU's not BING; GNU's not unix not BING is not google. GNU's not unix not unix not BING is not google is not google. *beats head into the ground.* I should plug this into a fractal generator.

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      "Sorrow is better than laughter, for by sadness of face the heart is made glad." [Ecclesiastes 7:3]
    2. Re:B.I.N.G.? by AlphaZeta · · Score: 2, Funny

      But Indeed No Google.

    3. Re:B.I.N.G.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go.

    4. Re:B.I.N.G.? by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is absolutely horrible. If I were a Microsoft Bing marketing drone, I would suddenly have gotten a disagreeable spurt of adrenaline into my abdominal circulation, goosebumps, the sudden urge to urinate, cold cold sweat, an incipient migraine, and the urge to run. Run anywhere. Run far away.

    5. Re:B.I.N.G.? by bigngamer92 · · Score: 1

      You just won the Comment Section.

      Not only is it an acronym but it actually makes sense. Microsoft really wishes that it can somehow win a victory over Google. They should be able to since they have the greater resources but considering the current situation it seems like they have failed. Maybe they should emphasize the web services that are working? Like Sky Drive, or that Microsoft Office Live thing (Has that gone the way of DNF?). I doubt Wolfram alpha will even make a dent in Google's marketshare although it may at least bury Google Squared.

    6. Re:B.I.N.G.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Recursive phrase! Must tear mind away!

      BING is not Google is not Google is not Google...

      Though notice as BING approaches infinity, BING is reduced and the phrase approaches an infinite "is not Google"...

    7. Re:B.I.N.G.? by ClayJar · · Score: 1

      Bad Internet! No Google!

      I'll refrain from making any comments about Bing cherry-picking the Net for results. I certainly won't claim that Bing is Microsoft crooning over their search engine. In fact, I don't think I'll even go the onomatopoeic route and say that Bing is the signal to stick a fork in them and see if they're done. Heck, with the number of things I'm not saying, I may as well not go into wordplay, either, although by analogy with sing/song...

      Bing me a bong I bang when I was young, one we all have bung before.

    8. Re:B.I.N.G.? by hey · · Score: 1

      LOL

    9. Re:B.I.N.G.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      recursive acronyms are not allowed.

    10. Re:B.I.N.G.? by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      Bing Is Not Google

      How about BINGOOGLE?

      Should I register bingoogle.com?

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      "No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai
    11. Re:B.I.N.G.? by jbacon · · Score: 1

      /thread

      That's it folks, game over.

    12. Re:B.I.N.G.? by Arterion · · Score: 1

      Absolutely beautiful!

      Some people spew a lot of vitriol at AC's in general, and then one posts a beautiful gem like this.

      Likely just because they don't want to harm their karma with the way Funny mods work. +5 Funny and +2 Overrated-MS-Fanboi is a bing on your karma.

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      "That which does not kill us makes us stranger." -Trevor Goodchild
    13. Re:B.I.N.G.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      true, true, but it's nearly google, better in network grokking, and blithely ignores naming glitches....
      I mean, really? Scottish mine tailings : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bing_(mining)
      Isn't this UNIX tool going to cause confusion? http://fgouget.free.fr/bing/bing_src-readme.shtml

    14. Re:B.I.N.G.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or simply, Bing Is Not Good.

  22. Yawn by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

    Microsoft wastes more time and effort on an Internet product almost no one will use. They really should just give up on trying to make money from the Internet. They just don't understand what people want.

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    If I were God, wouldn't I protect my churches from acts of me?
  23. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, on a web site focused on FOSS the readership will now complain about the name selected by Microsoft for their search engine.

    Some examples of the naming accumen of the FOSS crowd:
    - Ogg Vorbis
    - Gimp
    - Apache
    - IceWeasel
    - Thunderbird
    - X
    - Gnome
    - Prefacing thousands of KDE apps with K
    - Gnu
    - A thousand other recursive acronyms
    - etc etc etc

  24. Bing 'cause you need a Bong to use it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Noscript Firefox plugin seems to disable the entire functionality of 'Bing'..
    Now if someone could please pass me the Bong 'cause I reckon it will help me make faster decisions than this shitty website..

  25. Terminology by mmkkbb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft may have posted a quarterly loss, but comparing that with 4.7 billion dollars of gross revenue doesn't even make sense. Did Google make a profit on that 4.7 billion and how much? That's the important question, and none of the press releases linked here have an answer.

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    1. Re:Terminology by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Informative
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    2. Re:Terminology by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 1

      Yes, Google has profits. Microsoft's online division, in the other hand, has been losing money for _years_. They don't make many money with the xbox division either. Windows, Office and server tools - those are the wash cows from where all their money comes from

      The only way microsoft has succeeded in xbox and MSN/live is by using money from their cash cows to cover the loses.

    3. Re:Terminology by Americano · · Score: 1

      those are the wash cows from where all their money comes from

      (Emphasis mine)

      I think you meant "cash cows". But the unexpectedly surreal turn of phrase made me chuckle anyway, so thank you.

    4. Re:Terminology by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

      You're right, of course, but the comparison is off. You cannot meaningfully compare sales of one party with profit of another.

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    5. Re:Terminology by dzfoo · · Score: 1

      That's the important question, and none of the press releases linked here have an answer.

      Try binging it...

      sorry,

              -dZ.

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      ...Can you save Christmas?
    6. Re:Terminology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me Bing that for you and get back to you with an answer!

  26. Marketing BINGe? by Celeste+R · · Score: 1

    It's been said that good marketers sell products, products don't sell themselves... but I think this is an exception to that rule. A product has to be able to sell itself to the minds of people taking a second look at something new. To me, name like "Bing" is... well, we'll say that it's about as inspired as a rock in a cave. Yes, there was Bing Crosby, but I always knew him as Crosby, Bing was hardly in my vocabulary. What I use and show others reflects on me and my businesses. I'm not going to print off a page off that engine, just so that I can get snarky comments about me trying to bring back the old shows. I'll stick with Google, TYVM.

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  27. BING stands for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    But It's Not Google.

    I guess M$ is tired of people saying "But it's not Microsoft" so they are turning the tables.

    Maybe someday they will try turning the tables with better products.

    HAHAHAHA.. like that would ever happen!

  28. cashback? by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to the Why Bing page:

    And features like cashback, where we actually give you money back on great products, and
    Price Predictor, which actually tells you when to buy an airline ticket in order to help get you
    the best price -- help you make smarter decisions, and put money back in your pocket.

    The price predictor thing sound kinda cool (though pretty easy to clone).

    But giving money back on "great products?" Is that like discounts on MS software, or some other silly gimmick? Smells faintly like desperation, that does. I guess we'll see.

    1. Re:cashback? by Quothz · · Score: 1

      The price predictor thing sound kinda cool (though pretty easy to clone).

      "Easy to clone" is why they're offering it. There's a number of places on the 'Net offering this service, some of which have been doing so for years. This isn't innovation, it's renovation.

    2. Re:cashback? by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 1

      The price predictor thing sound kinda cool (though pretty easy to clone).

      Yes, as in they have cloned the functionality of sites like Priceline.com.

    3. Re:cashback? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      I think it's much more trivial than that.

      "Live Search" was a sucky name, because you can't make a decent verb out of it. You google stuff, but you don't "lively search" it, or whatever. But you can bing it for sure...

      Then, of course, the fact that Bing Is Not Google is hardly a coincidence, either.

      Still, I'm not particularly fond of the name.

    4. Re:cashback? by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 1

      I was picturing it working like, "I'm looking to fly to Missouri in September. When should I buy tickets so I'm likely to get the best prices, all things considered." Does Priceline do that? ( I honestly don't know, I don't it).

    5. Re:cashback? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      But giving money back on "great products?" Is that like discounts on MS software, or some other silly gimmick? Smells faintly like desperation, that does. I guess we'll see.

      It's called Live Search Cashback at the moment. That's the only time I've used Live Search. Last fall I bought $1600 bucks worth of stuff for $1200 thanks to 25% cashback on eBay "buy it now" purchases. If MS wants to help me buy expensive stuff, then more power to them. But yeah, it absolutely reeks of desperation on their part.

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    6. Re:cashback? by milas · · Score: 1

      The price predictor thing sound kinda cool (though pretty easy to clone).

      Microsoft bought www.farecast.com a while ago, so I imagine they're just integrating Farecast into Live/Bing.

    7. Re:cashback? by theun4gven · · Score: 1

      The price predictor thing is just farecast.com. It's a fairly useful site despite the bloat and slowdown since Microsoft bought it out.

    8. Re:cashback? by jshackles · · Score: 1

      I was picturing it working like, "I'm looking to fly to Missouri in September. When should I buy tickets so I'm likely to get the best prices, all things considered." Does Priceline do that? ( I honestly don't know, I don't it).

      Not if you're planning on flying to Missouri, it doesn't! In fact, I think their system is now smart enough to suggest a different vacation destination!

    9. Re:cashback? by SaDan · · Score: 2, Informative

      The cash back stuff is tied affiliate marketing/advertising, which is what MS is trying to tie in to their search results. I see mention of http://farecast.com/ in other comments, but I believe most of their "tech" for the cash back program was pulled out of http://jellyfish.com/ . MS purchased jellyfish.com a while back, sucked all the goodness out of them, and tossed the carcass aside recently during layoffs.

      There are still plenty of really good sites for finding deals, and http://fatwallet.com/ offers a competitive cash back program as well. Why wade through all the meaningless search results when trying to shop online, when you could go some place that ONLY has good deals? This is why MS's search will fail as a revenue generating product.

    10. Re:cashback? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this isn't a scam, it actually works. All they ask you to do is search for and go to the product website/page through live.com. Many large websites participate (ebay, newegg etc). A percentage of what you spend is then given back to you in 60 days. Percentages range from 1% to 25% depending on the website.

      I really don't see the point in it though. I go through live.com, buy the product and go back to Google to do my searches.

    11. Re:cashback? by zuperduperman · · Score: 1

      > But giving money back on "great products?" Is that like discounts on MS software, or some other silly gimmick? Smells faintly like desperation, that does

      No, it smells like MS selling your search details and privacy to advertisers for a quick buck. I'm actually open minded enough to try a search engine from MS if they really turn a new leaf with it, but that statement had me running for the hills.

    12. Re:cashback? by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Meh, I don't have to look, because somewhere 20 pages deep it states that this is US or US + Canada (and maybe the 51st state) only. The other few billion people are of course freshly out of luck.

      Or am I guessing wrong this time around? I would be utterly amazed if I was.

  29. As in Chandler "Bing"? by freedom_india · · Score: 1

    ...those who used to watch FRIENDS every Thursday night will get this joke. Others, you don't what fund you missed.

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    1. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by origamy · · Score: 1

      Funny that nobody knew what Chandler worked on. Now we can say we do!!

    2. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by swordgeek · · Score: 0

      Ah yes. The most resolutely mediocre and unentertaining show on television.

      There are shows that were less funny by means of offense or tasteless, but I don't know if anything has managed to surpass it in terms of utterly bland, unfunny gags propped up by excessive laugh track use.

      Hated that show with a passion.

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    3. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by PingXao · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up. Every generation has "their" shows. "Friends" was a generational answer to something, Seinfeld I guess. Or maybe it was the Love Boat. Anyway, it wasn't very good by all objective measures. Anyone who thinks hanging out at a coffe shop is better than hanging out at a bar (Cheers, anyone?) is smoking something out back in the alley.

      Mediocre at best sums it up perfectly. I don't judge people by superficial crappola, but if I overhear someone say they liked Friends (or even worse, LOVED it) then I have a pretty good idea of the kind of person I'm dealing with.

    4. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by MosX · · Score: 1

      Opinion != Fact

    5. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by xrayspx · · Score: 1

      Have you SEEN the WENUS?

    6. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by hansraj · · Score: 1

      ... but if I overhear someone say they liked Friends (or even worse, LOVED it) then I have a pretty good idea of the kind of person I'm dealing with.

      And every time I hear someone saying how something as mundane as a preference for one TV show over another highlights anything deep, I wish they would just shut the fuck up. Seriously, I enjoy some stupid goofy sitcom and you don't - is that such a big deal? Go ahead and find something deeper in a sitcom if that if your thing, but don't expect everyone to do that.

    7. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 1

      but if I overhear someone say they liked Friends (or even worse, LOVED it) then I have a pretty good idea of the kind of person I'm dealing with.

      One that doesn't have a stick shoved up their ass?

    8. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations, you're an idiot.

      I love to talk about serious topics, I'm a libertarian, I've read "Godel, Escher Bach, speak 3 languages fluently, hold multiple degrees, enjoy xkcd and Dostoievsky, and am an overall cool and interesting guy. And I fucking LOVED "Friends". Never saw it on TV while it was "hip", watched the whole ten seasons in 2008 and early 2009, and it kicked ass.

    9. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      Gee, thanks for that bit of insight!

      Seriously, 'mediocre' and 'bland' in relation to something like comedy are inherently going to be value judgements. If I were to say that it was funny, fresh, and clever, I'd also be stating an opinion.

      However, try watching the show (or any show for that matter) with the sound off and closed captioning on. Without the laughtrack telling you when something is funny, I'd warrant that most people find the 'Friends' dialogue banal and forced.

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    10. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Get out.

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    11. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the every thing is equal fair and balance BS argument.

      Firends was tupid, focused on stupid people who have insepid lives.
      It's demographic was "14-22 years old, who needs to be spoon fed even the simplist of concepts before going out to buy more shoes."

      Seriously, it's not that any other show is particularly deep, it's that if friends was any more shallow it would be 2 dimensional.

      And no, The Big Bang Theory isn't any better. Its Friends with often vague or incorrect science statements.

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    12. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by freedom_india · · Score: 1

      Firends was tupid, focused on stupid people who have insepid lives.

      FRIENDS appealed to the "intelligent and well educated populace". The jokes would have got a bit sophisticated for you to understand, considering the abysmal level of your spelling mistakes in such a small, tiny post which betrays your poor, poor intellect and a single-digit IQ fit enough to be cast in the movie Idiocracy.
      And FYI the demographic was college students sitting in dormitories and watching the growth of FRIENDS. But then as someone who can never enter a college on merit, you can never understand it.

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    13. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by freedom_india · · Score: 1

      Are you newly born? or extremely old so as to remember the fact that once, there were no audio tracks in movies and everything was s slapstick comedy like Charlie Chaplin and Orange & Lemons?
      Probably you are one the very few, still alive, people who love watching Discovery channel report on Bumblebees without the audio track...
      (again a line picked from Ross Geller)

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    14. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by freedom_india · · Score: 1

      Well Said. It still kicks ass. The non-egotistic actors who refused to accept Emmys unless awarded to all of them are still the best.
      Its a pity they don't make a movie out of FRIENDS.

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    15. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by freedom_india · · Score: 1

      Data Processing, Statistical Configuration.

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    16. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      Um...one of us is missing the other's point. I'm not sure which one, though.

      My point was that if something isn't funny without a laugh track to prompt you, it's not funny. Physical comedy if done right (and Chaplin absolutely did it right) can be damned funny. Standup and sitcoms and movies can all be funny.

      The purpose of a laugh track is to tell you when it's time to laugh at something. If you need prompting to know when to laugh, it's can't be that funny!

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    17. Re:As in Chandler "Bing"? by freedom_india · · Score: 1

      Oh... sorry. Misunderstood you.
      I guess you are right.
      The laugh track provides a psychological feedback for you to laugh on cue.
      Although some jokes in friends don't need one.

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  30. Re:Bing? Seriously? by eldavojohn · · Score: 2, Funny

    So what's the new branding going to be after this one fails? Bong?

    Nah, I think it's going to be "Bang" so that sentences like this happen:

    "I couldn't find the answer in my textbook so I Banged it."

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  31. Re:Bing? Seriously? by MeanMF · · Score: 1

    Did you just disrespect the Bing? I would keep an eye out for Tony Soprano if I were you.

  32. Yeah, that's retarded. by Petersko · · Score: 1

    Microsoft has posted a quarterly loss in its online advertising business, compared to Google's sales, $4.7 billion in the first quarter.
    br. Yeah, whoever wrote the summary screwed it up. Might as well compare Microsoft's loss to the cost of my auto insurance, or maybe the inflation rate of the cost of a handjob at Sapphire in Vegas over the past two years. That statistical comparison would be equally useless.

  33. A rose by any other name... by BurzumNazgul · · Score: 1

    At first I'm tempted to dismiss this as nothing more than a renaming of Microsoft's current crappy search engine. (I mean who really uses it anyway?) But I think it would be a little hasty to totally ignore the sheer amount of cash Microsoft can dump into advertising. You tech guys out there should expect your circle of computer dummies to start asking "So what's this bing thing anyway?". I don't think they'll overthrow google anytime soon but I'm fairly sure they have a chance of taking a slice of their users.

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    1. Re:A rose by any other name... by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 1

      But I think it would be a little hasty to totally ignore the sheer amount of cash Microsoft can dump into advertising.

      If that was even remotely effective they wouldn't still be behind Yahoo in rankings.

      You tech guys out there should expect your circle of computer dummies to start asking "So what's this bing thing anyway?". I don't think they'll overthrow google anytime soon but I'm fairly sure they have a chance of taking a slice of their users.

      I'm pretty sure Google can afford to lose the 3 people that might actually hear about this and actually think it's good.

  34. Re:Bing? Seriously? by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I'd agree that those names are mostly worthless. Doesn't mean that Bing still wasn't a dumb choice of a name for the "new" Live Search.

  35. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot 'Ubuntu'

  36. The truly sad thing.. by SchizoStatic · · Score: 1

    I use google now just because it is what I am use to. The same argument that tends to be used for why people don't switch to windows. Heh.

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  37. Virtual pimp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So today we're introducing a new kind of search that goes beyond traditional search engines to help you make faster, more informed decisions. It will do this by combining a great search engine (with powerful new features to improve your results for any query), more organized results, and unique tools to help you make important decisions. We think of Bing as a Decision Engine.

    Sooo, does this mean it will find the best pr0n that will still fit your hard drive and still satisfy?

  38. Oh boy, another branding identity crisis. by narfspoon · · Score: 1

    Are we going to be surprised when the actual output of this search engine prove to be low quality?

    1. Re:Oh boy, another branding identity crisis. by omnichad · · Score: 1

      No....Wolfram Alpha softened the blow for that. We're already prepped.

  39. Bing! by spire3661 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ned: Phil? Hey, Phil? Phil! Phil Connors? Phil Connors, I thought that was you!
    Phil: Hi, how you doing? Thanks for watching.
    [Starts to walk away]
    Ned: Hey, hey! Now, don't you tell me you don't remember me because I sure as heckfire remember you.
    Phil: Not a chance.
    Ned: Ned... Ryerson. "Needlenose Ned"? "Ned the Head"? C'mon, buddy. Case Western High. Ned Ryerson: I did the whistling belly-button trick at the high school talent show? Bing! Ned Ryerson: got the shingles real bad senior year, almost didn't graduate? Bing, again. Ned Ryerson: I dated your sister Mary Pat a couple times until you told me not to anymore? Well?
    Phil: Ned Ryerson?
    Ned: Bing!
    Phil: Bing.

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    1. Re:Bing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know where you're going...can you call in?

    2. Re:Bing! by Kozz · · Score: 1

      And let's not forget...

      Phil: Listen, Ned, I don't know what you're doing later, but I've got a hotel room, and ...

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    3. Re:Bing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  40. Dear MS. Bing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Q: I'm feeling lonely, down and out, what will make me feel better? Please help me decide.

    A: Easy. Upgrade to Vista Ultimate, then Windows 7 ultimate. If that doesn't work buy a Zune, an X-Box 360, and a Surface. Bing-OOOO! Problem solved.

  41. Bing - the sound of being ricocheted all over MSN by Locutus · · Score: 1

    "Bing" huh, it reminds me of the sound of a ricochet and than makes me think that using Microsoft's search is going to return results that'll bounce you all over the place and most likely, only to MS partners. After all, the most effective ricochets are those in confined spaces. Maybe the internal name is really "Bing bing bing, bing, bing bing, bing." Followed by a bunch of "$" signs.

    LoB

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  42. BUNG! by ScooterComputer · · Score: 1

    I hope this new 'decision engine' wasn't consulted about its own name, otherwise it should be avoided given the quality of its decision-making.

    What a joke. Begin with the proctological comments...

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  43. BING Is Not Google by A12m0v · · Score: 1

    BING Is Not Google

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    1. Re:BING Is Not Google by BabyDuckHat · · Score: 1

      Bing Is No Google.

  44. Obviously they didn't research the name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bing = Swedish slang for "Dumb"

    1. Re:Obviously they didn't research the name... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is Romanian slang for "gaping anus"

  45. Chameleon is a much better name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like one search thing like http://www.elookinto.com. Don't know if it will include the 'Chameleon' as a choice

  46. I'll squirt you that page I binged for by a09bdb811a · · Score: 1

    "Chi so ha, bing do wa!"

    Translation: I use Google.

  47. What's going on by Phroggy · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a little confused, but as best I can figure out:

    Microsoft is developing a new search engine that will replace Live Search. The new engine was going to be called Kumo, but they've decided to call it Bing instead. It's still in development and not yet available to the public, but eventually it will be online at bing.com. Presumably, once Bing launches, live.com will redirect there. The search field on msn.com (which most IE users have set as their home page) will redirect there too.

    Since the new engine isn't available to the public and most people weren't aware that it was going to be called Kumo, this rebranding is a complete non-story.

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    1. Re:What's going on by cekander · · Score: 1

      this rebranding is a complete non-story.

      I wouldn't go that far. In and of itself, changing a name is what it is, and that's not much. But it is SOMETHING.

      Remember all the buzz about the Nintendo Wii? All those creative news headlines? All that criticism: "what a stupid name"? Well, no news is bad news, and I think that applies here.

      Also the name-change probably has something to do with the power of branding with a verb.

      This last point is stretching, but perhaps an onomatopoeia like "bing" instills a feeling of speed as in, "Bing, see how fast that was?"

    2. Re:What's going on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the new engine isn't available to the public and most people weren't aware that it was going to be called Kumo, this rebranding is a complete non-story.

      Headline says they're rebranding *Live Search* as Bing, not Kumo... so, its still a rebranding (and not a non-issue).

    3. Re:What's going on by gtall · · Score: 1

      Yes it is somewhat of a non-story. But then you aren't thinking like Business School Product. By making an Announcement, they get to make an Announcement. This is considered an achievement for Business School Product. Another feature is that if you succeed by a great advertising campaign, that's all well and good for your organization, but what does it do for you, the Bog Standard Business School Product? Not much. If, on the other hand, you can introduce into the mindless waste that is "the buzz" a new Official Buzz Word (voted Most Likely to Make it on Buzz Word Bingo), then you as Business School Product have achieved the highest pinnacle of success. And if your new Buzz Word becomes an Official Buzz Verb, then you will go down in Business School Product as one of the greatest artistes of pop culture. You have finally made the big time, able to get into trendy nightclubs with but a wave of your Jedi marketing hand, "I'm Big Business School Product, don't look behind my curtain".

  48. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 5, Funny

    <VOICE type="Chandler Bing">
    Could this branding be any more lame?
    </VOICE>

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  49. Re:Bing? Seriously? by ILikeRed · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, but I predict people will start pronouncing it as "Bung". As in:

    I went to google the answer, but this damn computer has the wrong search installed and my question went down the bung hole!

    I love how the live desktop search tells you everything install chronologically after it is going to stop functioning if you remove the MS search. Well, maybe bung will finally let you find answers to technical issues half as well as google search - then MS might be able to bribe some more people to play with it's bung.

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  50. Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ... by mr_death · · Score: 1

    "Biinnngg!" (with apologies to M. Python).

    Or, Bing ... o! It is certainly true that your search results are a gamble when you use Microsoft search.

    When will Ballmer and company stop throwing billions down this rathole and acknowledge that Google has soundly kicked their ass?

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  51. A Microsoft Travel Aggregator? by stoicfaux · · Score: 1

    One of the examples in the video was searching for a flight/hotel/etc.. Is Bing trying to compete with existing travel sites? Can a general search/decision engine outperform a dedicated travel site? Is Bing going to be a threat to travel sites?

    Who decides how the decision engine decides? How are the result categories created? Are there a lot of MS employees creating categories based on typical search queries? Will users be able to create or suggest categories?

    Will there be Bing specific HTML tags that sites can use to suggest what categories their site should belong to?

    Are they trying to be the Mac of search engines?

    Are there technical details on how Bing works? It's still vaporware unless you're a MS employee. Google and Live Search do not appear to have any technical details (or my search-fu is lacking.)

    Given the lack of details and the lack of a product, I'm not inclined to take this "decision engine" effort seriously.

    1. Re:A Microsoft Travel Aggregator? by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      I think you're thinking along the lines of a more traditional search engine than what Microsoft is going for here. You are thinking the user will select a 'Hotels' radio button and enter a city and date in a form specifically for hotels. I think what they are actually going for is you simply typing in something like "3 star las vegas hotel june 26" would supply the obvious but might also give you details about show times, flight information, and package deals.

      Something like a cross of Wolfram Alpha, Google, and Kayak: WA's natural language processing, Google's indexing of the web, and Kayak's aggregation of travel stuff.

  52. Re:Bing? Seriously? by flibuste · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hum...Let' see..
    • 1 - Make crappy search engine.
    • 2 - Fail at taking over the world with crappy search engine
    • 3 - Rebrand crappy search engine with new look
    • 4 - ??????
    • 5 - PROFIT!!

    It's just that (4) isn't clear.

  53. Chameleon should be the name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't know if something http://elookinto.com will include 'Bing', the chameleon. Maybe not since it is not a 'search engine'.

  54. Bob's cousin Bing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, Bob's cousin Bing is finally getting out into public? I'm sure they'll spend a lot of time together, wherever Bob is now... :-)

  55. So many search engines lately by merc · · Score: 1

    Really google serves all my needs pretty well and I can't imagine using anything else everyday. There is a new search engine called topsy.com and it seems pretty cool but it seems more directed towards tweets, blogs, forums, etc..

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  56. Superficial criticism by Jamamala · · Score: 1

    Good god the introductory video is annoying. 95% of it consists of an actual video recording a screen and looks horrible: why on earth didn't they use a screen-capturing program? The other 5% is made up of a woman frowning at said screen to tell the viewer what's bad about all other search engines.

    The page design is strange; no overt MS branding anywhere. It's almost as if they don't want you to know...

    1. Re:Superficial criticism by HikingStick · · Score: 2

      To top it off, the video doesn't really show anything that exciting or innovative. There have been a number of search services over the years that tried to organize results, and I don't know if any of them are still around (because I never switched to using them).

      Microsoft always seems to come up with ideas it believes will enhance the user experience, but their track record in that area is poor. I've been using Office 2007 for over a year now, and I still run into brick walls where it takes me time to find features that were intuitively placed before. Think of headers/footers (that was the first one that caused me grief). In pre-Office 2007 releases, you would "view" a header or footer. In Office 2007, you need to "insert" a header or footer. Thinking of page layouts, the header and footer is already there--there's nothing to insert--so its not intuitive. That's just one example. I hope their categorization system in Bing doesn't try to improve the search experience too much, or they'll simply cement their position as the loss leader in search.

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  57. Another bad recursive acronym wouldn't surprise me by narfspoon · · Score: 1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_XNA

    This is how Microsoft has an identity crisis to trumpet it's "me-tooism" that they're trendy and hip in the world of computing.

    Here's some other recursive acronyms to show how dreadfully 'clever & original' the "_________ is not ______" style is.

    Personal story: I'm not a coder but the only place I've heard of XNA was from a frat boy dropout who wanted to be a game programmer that wouldn't shut up about it on our WoW ventrilo.
    Yet he didn't know what Blender or C++ are.
    Hell he couldn't write any LUA mods or tank worth a darn, so he was useless to us.
    All he did was misquote EJ forums into every guild discussion and somehow turning it into an argument to show how smart he was.

    Yeah we hated that kid.

  58. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 1

    I know someone who works for Redmond's marketing team. If "Bing" fails, the next name will be "Squirt". It will be introduced by an expensive advertising campaign featuring Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld. We'll see the "fun" side of Bill and the unfunny side of Jerry. At the end of each segment, Ballmer will burst through a wall, his face painted purple, screaming "OH YEAH!"

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  59. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and the worse of all

    - Microsoft

  60. Shakespeare by PeeShootr · · Score: 1

    "A turd by any other name still stinks really badly"

  61. GooglePLEX(tm) by relguj9 · · Score: 1

    trademark pending

    1. Re:GooglePLEX(tm) by relguj9 · · Score: 1

      or even.. tenduotrigintillionle

    2. Re:GooglePLEX(tm) by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Why would MS go after a trademark on the name of Google's headquarters?

    3. Re:GooglePLEX(tm) by relguj9 · · Score: 1

      Well, Microsoft is trying to get a leg up on Google (which is a play on the word googol) with Bing. Calling it Googleplex would be like playing on the world googolplex, which is 10^10^100. Connecting the dots now, oftentimes the adjectives "larger" and "bigger" are associated with being "better." Or, quite literally in this situation, the more searches and profit, the better.

      Bing actually looks pretty good, it's like a clean wrapper for live search with some nice features.

  62. The name is nto their problem by docbrody · · Score: 1

    Think about it. If there was no "Google" already, and Microsoft choose that as a name, we would all be saying how dorky it was. Same goes for "yahoo" or "skype" or any number of web company names you could pick from a hat.

    Their problem is that they really have to come up with something that is a few orders of magnitude better than Google or its not worth switching. It can't be "as good" or even "a little better." Its got to be way way better than google (just like how google was way better than everyone else when they first showed up).

    1. Re:The name is nto their problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come now, it's a search engine. How hard can it be to change search engines? All Microsoft needs to do is get it to show up by default in IE (or OEM installations of other browsers) and they're golden.

  63. Synergy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Right or wrong, I always suspect that MS search is designed with the purpose of pointing me preferentially towards MS owned content while Google is more neutral. It is just too easy to imagine the meeting where some aspiring young MBA presents their power-point slides showing how a search portal that secretly directs people towards other company assets will leverage the synergistic potential, or some other BS like that. I just don't trust MS to create a product that puts my interests (neutral indexing of internet content) ahead of their own (market share and stock price).

  64. Re:Bing? Seriously? by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 2, Funny

    If "Bing" fails, the next name will be "Squirt".

    But won't that confuse the 2 owners of a Zune who have been squirting songs to each other?

  65. Rebranding -- that's what's needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If only they'd called "Microsoft Bob" something else...

    "Steaming Pile of Shit" would have been a bestseller!

  66. Re:Bing? Seriously? by s_p_oneil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think 3 was "Try to make people believe Google is a monopoly so we can sue them and then monopolize another market." That would make 4 the rebranding effort, and I would change the "!!" at the end of 5 to "??".

  67. Bing! You're hypnotized! by KritonK · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the Donald Duck story The Hypno-Gun, where Donald's nephews had a gun with a spinning disk in front, that they would point at each other shouting "Bing! You're hypnotized!" and pretend that they had been hypnotized. Of course the gun was just a toy, only working on Donald, with the expected hilarious results.

  68. Scribblings on the wall? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a great name, too bad the momentum has been lost.

    And there lies the rub. Sure, there are plenty of us who still harbour deep suspicicions about Google and its motives, but those reservations pale by comparison to those surrounding Microsoft.

    Once all the hype about MSN search and Windows 7 has died down, I wonder if Microsoft might be forced into a position where its most secure bastion is MSOffice. Whatever we might think of MS, the latter is still probably the only one of their products that really qualifies as a "killer".

    Disclaimer: my personal preference is for OpenOffice or NeoOffice, dependent on platform.

    1. Re:Scribblings on the wall? by fullgandoo · · Score: 1

      I hope that doesn't mean you believe "Google is for ever" and everyone should just die a quiet death and there should never even be an attempt to enter a field dominated overwhelmingly by someone.

  69. That'll fix it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The root cause of their search woes is not due to deficient search results. Obviously, the issue is the the lack of a Web 2.0-ey name. Duh.

  70. Name it Bling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should have named it Bling... :p Yeah, they definitely need more Bling.

    1. Re:Name it Bling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We *did* name our Googe kier Bing. It's just that a etter on our keyboard is broken, and we forgot the At-number-pad way to enter it. Can somebody point us to a hepfu UR with instructions we can foow?

  71. Long-term pattern by psydeshow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Among Microsoft's many problems as a company is that they seem to systematically change the names of their products every few years. This is an incredibly wasteful policy. Every time they enact one of these name changes they:

        - throw out years' worth of marketing effort
        - break documentation and references throughout their website
        - break third-party web resources, including howtos, forum advice, and other forms of community support
        - force everyone who has to support the product to change all of their references, documentation, marketing, etc.

    Why MS shareholders and partners don't see name churn as having a real, damaging impact on the company's long-term success is beyond me.

    1. Re:Long-term pattern by sribe · · Score: 1

      Simple, they rename products because they're trying to leave behind the bad reputation those products have developed.

    2. Re:Long-term pattern by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      throw out years' worth of marketing effort

      "Zune". Any other questions?

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    3. Re:Long-term pattern by psydeshow · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but why not just make the existing products BETTER?

      Dumb question, I know I know.

    4. Re:Long-term pattern by Archimonde · · Score: 1

      It is almost a common practice between mobile operators here in croatia. Every couple of months or less they introduce "new" services, which are nothing but reshuffled old ones. They will introduce "more flexible" pricing when in fact that is just another word for raising the current ones. And every month or so you will get some "special offers" which expire in a month leaving you with old pricing.

      Similar to this, but more infuriating for business users was constant rebranding of our national mobile and land operator after the acquisition by t-com. iirc it went from HT, to T-HT to T-Com, (cronet->t-mobile etc) but worst of all, e-mail addresses went from @xx.tel.hr to @xx.hinet.hr to @xx.t-com.hr. That was great news for business users who had to change business cards every year or less. I'm even sure I missed a change or two in the mail addresses, and that easily explains why many people went with web based mail.

      So this was not really a case of bad service (live.com comes to mind) but just changing name for the sake of looking fresh even though fundamentally nothing changes.

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    5. Re:Long-term pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They also prevent people from associating the old train-wreck of a product with the shiny new rebadged product. I'd say it's a net plus.

    6. Re:Long-term pattern by ais523 · · Score: 1

      That sort of thing happens everywhere, not just Croatia. (The latest mobile phone pricing gimmick over here in the UK is to multiply all their prices by a factor, and money topped-up onto prepay phone tariffs by the same factor; so we have loads of adverts saying things like "top up £15 and get £50 worth of calls!". So we now have the weird situation in which you pay pounds to prepay on your phone, and you get credit for making calls in units which are called pounds, but aren't.)

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  72. what's in a name? this time, truth: by circletimessquare · · Score: 0, Troll
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  73. Re:Bing? Seriously? by jd2112 · · Score: 2, Funny

    So what's the new branding going to be after this one fails? Bong?

    Well, it would be popular with the stoner crowd..

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  74. Re:Bing? Seriously? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

    No, but I predict people will start pronouncing it as "Bung".

    Yes, but only in New Zealand. ;-)

  75. The name is dorky by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    The names of almost all "Web companies" are dorky. "Yahoo"? Someone actually named their business "Yahoo"?

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  76. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Eggz+Factor · · Score: 1

    Doesn't roll off the tongue, but at least it has some meaning behind it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)

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  77. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

    So what's the new branding going to be after this one fails? Bong?

    Chandler.

    That guy hasn't had much work recently, he's probably available to promote it too.

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  78. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Bob, where's my bong?" "Have you tried looking underneath your belt?" "Not that bong, Bob. The other bong."

    Did you try binging your bong?

  79. Some got style, some don't by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Take an decent blouse of mine, it still looks like crap on me. Put it on my gf... oh alright my sister, and she looks absolutely hot in it. As Terry Pratchett once noted in a book, for the truly cool, anything they wear looks good.

    MS is not cool, it is about as far from cool as you can get with burning yourself. It shouldn't try to be cool. It is like Balmer doing the monkey-dance, it don't fit. He is a boring man and if he tries to be hip, he just end up looking more foolish then he ever could just being boring.

    MS search. THAT is a PERFECT name for an MS search engine. It says what it does and who it belongs to. JUST as Micrsoft Word, Internet Explorer and such are great names for a boring company.

    stick with your image, it works far better then going against it. Just ask any politician who tried to rap.

    Google got away with its name because it was new. MS isn't. Would you buy a IBM mainframe called the iFrame?

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    1. Re:Some got style, some don't by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Depends, what are the spec and how to they balance against the cost? WIll it cost more or less then are current maintenance contract?

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    2. Re:Some got style, some don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't, but apple fanboys sure would.

    3. Re:Some got style, some don't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the iSeries?

      I'm sure with enough marketing and brand reputation, iFrame could be a perfectly legitimate-sounding name. People are biased towards familiar names.

      If you think about it, a lot of well-known brands have names that sound kind of silly if you think about it. Costco? Burger King?

  80. pluses and minuses by tubeguy · · Score: 1

    Plus- it's easier to say than "Google" Minus- it's not Google

  81. All that money into marketing ... by Frag-A-Muffin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How many millions (billions?!) do they spend on marketing and branding. If I paid that much, and all they came up with was Zune, Squirt and Bing .. I'd be pissed and would want a refund.

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    1. Re:All that money into marketing ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long before "Bing it" becomes "Bin it" ?

  82. They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's already another tech company, Terabyte Unlimited, using that moniker as shorthand for their boot manager product, BootIt Next Generation. If they've trademarked the abbreviation as well as the full name, they might wind up suing Microsoft over their use of it.

    It's an utterly stupid and non-descriptive name for a search engine, anyway.

    1. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      Won't fly, because they're wildly separate products. Trademark violations crop up where there is a good chance that one product will be confused with another given a similar name.

      If you want to make a glass cleaner and call it "Windows", there is nothing microsoft can do about it.

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    2. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by Phurd+Phlegm · · Score: 1

      It's [Bing is] an utterly stupid and non-descriptive name for a search engine, anyway.

      Not meaningful like "Google" or "Yahoo?"

    3. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's an utterly stupid and non-descriptive name for a search engine, anyway.

      Is Google any more descriptive?

    4. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 1

      "Google" actually *is* meaningful. "Yahoo" might be another example of stupid. I never said Microsoft had exclusive license to stupidity, though I'm sure they've tried to get it.

    5. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by Phurd+Phlegm · · Score: 1

      "Google" actually *is* meaningful.

      Okay, I'll bite. What does "google" mean besides "search?" That clearly didn't apply when it was named, and the number "googol" is spelled differently.

    6. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ya, and no one said that about Google..

    7. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by seandiggity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's an utterly stupid and non-descriptive name for a search engine, anyway.

      I'm no M$ fanboi, but I'm gonna have to let them off the hook for the name choice. Yahoo! and Google are also utterly stupid and non-descriptive names for search engines. Microsoft is trying to create buzz and picked a word that people might actually use as a verb, like Google. I don't think that'll happen, but I guess one never knows. I can think of worse names; at least they didn't use a Web 2.0 name generator for this...

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    8. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by omnichad · · Score: 1

      But the fact that the name Google is a reference to the word Googol is meaningful. It describes the product well.

    9. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 1

      Actually, yes! Think about the word from which they derived the name and how that now relates to the number of pages they serve every year.

    10. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 1

      ^^^ What he said!

    11. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 1

      They probably did at first, but Google has lived up to the term, hasn't it? I'd wager they actually serve a "googol" of pages every year.

    12. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 1

      I'd agree that Yahoo is also a stupid name, both then AND now, and Google might have arguably been at first, but Google has certainly lived up to the word from which they derived the name, haven't they? From exactly what vaguely relevant word has Microsoft derived its ridiculous new name? That's right, there isn't one, because they just yanked it out of thin air. Or maybe they want people to think their search engine is as sweet as a cherry? Doubt it.

    13. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Next, they could go after the Cherry growers.

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    14. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 1

      That's not even a usage in the same industry. Your sarcasm fails.

    15. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And "google" is so descriptive, isn't it? If you're going to go MS-bashing, at least borrow a brain cell from somewhere first. Fuckwit.

    16. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 1

      Actually it is descriptive, genius. Had you bothered to skim the rest of the conversation before you foamed-off at the mouth, you'd have thought better of your retort.

      I won't be borrowing any of your brain cells any time soon. I hope you bought the extended warranty with 'em.

    17. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It doesn't describe the product at all.
      explain how 10 to the 100 explains 'Internet search engine'?

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    18. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by omnichad · · Score: 1

      It explains "lots and lots of web pages indexed."

    19. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an utterly stupid and non-descriptive name for a search engine, anyway.

      Google, you mean?

    20. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by macraig · · Score: 1

      Been there, replied to this already. Read the rest of the conversation here!

    21. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by s1lverl0rd · · Score: 0

      I agree that it's utterly stupid, but Google isn't very descriptive for people that don't know it either.

    22. Re:They're asking to be sued over that moniker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure you quite grasp the enormity of a googol.

  83. binger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahaha... You would think that MS would google their own product... It seems pron-stars also like the name "Bing" just Google: "bing sucks"

    Tee hee ;)

  84. Hotels in Dublin by TheNinjaroach · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course I didn't RTFA, but I did visit bing.com to watch a promotional video - which surprising enough wasn't done in Silverlight. Two things about this promotional video really stuck out about how bad Microsoft really wants to be Google.

    The first thing that struck me was the name. Over time Google's name has become a verb, you can "Google It" (tm) for yourself. So Microsoft innovates the only way they know how by scheduling a series of marketing meetings for their droids to come up with a name that out-verbs the competition. "Bing" there you have it, an uninspired and pathetic attempt to squeeze a brand name into our common vernacular.

    The second thing that really caught my attention in the video was the first search they show. While the narrator goes on about revolutionary new ways to search the internet, he pulls up Bing to search for "Hotels in Dublin" - a natural way to search for hotels near Dublin that Google implemented into their mapping engine years ago. Just as the search itself was ripped off from Google, so are the results. A map of Dublin pops up with a number of icons, each representing a hotel exactly as Google did... years ago.

    Bing's marketing narrator continues on about these "new ways to search" that feel so familiar, and well, old. I'm not convinced they have anything new to offer, but maybe if they keep saying "Bing" enough they will at least convince themselves. I think the only people who will "Bing" anything in the near future are the same ones who have always used Live Search simply because it was available by default.

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    1. Re:Hotels in Dublin by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 1

      Bing's marketing narrator continues on about these "new ways to search" that feel so familiar, and well, old.

      Well, for a Microsoft employee, these probably were new ways to search.

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    2. Re:Hotels in Dublin by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      The first thing that struck me was the name...So Microsoft innovates the only way they know how by...

      stealing an already used name?

      $ apt-cache show bing
      Package: bing ...
      Description: Empirical stochastic bandwidth tester
        Bing is a point-to-point bandwidth measurement tool (hence the 'b'),
        based on ping.
        .
        Bing determines the real (raw, as opposed to available or average)
        throughput on a link by measuring ICMP echo requests' round trip times
        for different packet sizes at each end of the link.
      Homepage: http://fgouget.free.fr/bing/bing_src-readme-1st.shtml

    3. Re:Hotels in Dublin by Raenex · · Score: 1

      stealing an already used name?

      If they did it with Windows, why not some piddly little command line tool?

  85. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'

  86. Re:Bing? Seriously? by ppanon · · Score: 1

    Nah. Bing and Bob have to be separate products. Microsoft needs to promote them together with a road show.

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  87. CROSBY by baomike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    not the town in North Dakota.
    For my generation Bing is followed by Crosby.

    I am sure the people at MSFT are to young to have that association,

  88. Doesn't work for me by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

    I clicked on the link, and then on the "Why Bing" button. Nothing. Is it because I'm using Firefox? I can't find any way to actually search on the bing homepage.

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  89. Chandler? by tikram · · Score: 0

    Did they name it after Chandler "not gay" Bing? :D

  90. Ned Ryerson's search engine? by LeedsSideStreets · · Score: 1

    It's impossible for me to think of anything other than Groundhog Day upon hearing this name.

  91. Fire your marketing staff by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

    Bing, Live, MSN, Kumo... what the hell is the difference?

    How about you fire your marketing department and use names people can understand, like:
    Microsoft Web Search
    Microsoft Webmail
    Microsoft Product Search
    Microsoft News Portal ...etc

    Would save money and leave the users a lot less confused.

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    1. Re:Fire your marketing staff by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Like:
      Google
      Yahoo
      Microsoft,
      And other names consumers understood right away~

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  92. Kayak.com Copied by Game_Ender · · Score: 1

    There flight search is a direct rip off of kayak.com. Its so blatant that I have to assume they are licensing the tech from that site directly. If not its just another use of Redmond's photocopiers.

  93. Re:Bing? Seriously? by dzfoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actualy it's:

    • 1 - Make crappy search engine.
    • 2 - Fail at taking over the world with crappy search engine
    • 3 - Rebrand crappy search engine with new look
    • 4 - Fail at taking over the world with crappy search engine with new look
    • 5 - Repeat step 3 at least twice
    • 6 - ???
    • 7 - PROFIT!!

    They're still in step 3.

            -dZ.

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  94. BBC by damona · · Score: 1
    The BBC article has some pretty interesting comments from Paul Stoddart, Microsoft UK search lead.

    "Google haven't been able to innovate a lot of the UI"

    Huh?

  95. Bing? Bing? by argent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Holy mother of marketing. They'd do better calling it "Microsoft Bling", at least it'd sound like something someone might actually want to use. This may be the worst product name since Bob.

    1. Re:Bing? Bing? by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Personally I thought that the name "Bob" did describe the product pretty well. Maybe "Bing" will do so as well. They could even combine the two to keep it bobbing around.

    2. Re:Bing? Bing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft Blob?

  96. Did they even try to make a background check... by McNihil · · Score: 1

    On the word Bing?

    There is a couple of languages that I know of that when calling a person bing or beng (dialect differences) implicates that that person is a complete and utter moronic idiot.

    Note this is not Microsoft bashing this is just facts.

    I for one will NEVER use a service called something like that.

    1. Re:Did they even try to make a background check... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boofuckinghoo

  97. He said *what*? by argent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dear Paul:

    Google's UI innovation is that people want the fucking UI to get out of the fucking way. People don't want the user interface innovated in new, exciting, and distracting ways. They want you to stick to what works, and make the back end work better. If they notice the user interface, you've failed.

    Love, Peter.

  98. buh buh buh buh by stuntpope · · Score: 1

    It also adds unique tools to help the user make important decisions.

    Like a sack of oranges to beat you with?

  99. Still more buzzsh*t by DigitalContradiction · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A "decision engine" that goes "beyond the traditional search engines" ? Doesn't it sound just like a cheap try to surf on the hype wave from Wolfram|Alpha ?

  100. What ever you do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dont search google for: "Bing sucks"

  101. Yaaawwwnnnnn by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    Yet another lame attempt by Microsoft to be a wanted part of people's online experiences.

  102. ...is still a turd. by moronikos · · Score: 1

    lol

  103. Re:Bing? Seriously? by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

    So what's the new branding going to be after this one fails? Bong?

    Well, it does explain what the marketing people were smoking during the brainstorming sessions.

  104. Two letters wrong by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

    Clearly 'bing' is a mistake - it was intended to be 'billg'. The original plan was for a little cartoon Bill Gates (think xbill) to pop up and explain answers to you - 640 kilobytes should be enough, and so on. That would have been cool (and certainly more useful than Wolfram Alpha) but the marketing guys made a mistake somewhere.

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  105. "Bing"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Bing" as in "Crosby"?

  106. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apache, X, and Thunderbird are perfectly good names.

    And not all recursive-acronym names are bad. Wine is perfectly good, for example.

    I'll give you Gnome, K*, and Gnu, though. IceWeasel is rubbish, but it's not the name given by the product's actual developers, so doesn't count.

    And Gimp is undeniably the worst name ever.

  107. They need new marketing advice by oDDmON+oUT · · Score: 1

    Didn't they say much the same things about Vista?

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  108. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bling!

    The net seems to be down, here let me ping Bing, er ,Bling...

  109. Re:Bing - the sound of being ricocheted all over M by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ricochet Rabbit?

  110. Competition is good for everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so, everyone saying for M$ to give it up, I say keep going. We need competition and if everyone had the same attitide most have on this post, we would not have any. I personally never use Live Search, but thankfully they are there to ensure Google does not have a clear road to do whatever they want. It was M$ who stopped the Google/Yahoo ad debacle.
    So, keep it up M$ we need competition. Good or bad....

  111. Sopranos? by highfidelitychris · · Score: 1

    Just like in the Sopranos, you go to the Bing to see naked ladies.

    1. Re:Sopranos? by spyder-implee · · Score: 1

      YES! I knew I wouldn't be the only one who after seeing the word Bing thought of strippers.

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  112. MS who decides? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its the MS "Random Word Monkey's" fault ,Better not make it mad or it will Squirt you with Its Zune,or just throw a chair at you

  113. Named after Bing Crosby? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From Wikipedia:

    "After Crosby's death, his eldest son, Gary, wrote a highly critical memoir, Going My Own Way, depicting [Bing] as cold, remote, and both physically and psychologically abusive."

    I think it's a good name.

  114. Sidney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For my generation Crosby is followed by , Sidney.

    I'll get off your lawn and go back north now.

  115. Chandler Bing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if Chandler will have a plugin for it.

    1. Re:Chandler Bing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean Miss Chanandler Bong?

  116. But is proprietary software any better? by tepples · · Score: 1
    But is proprietary software any better at coming up with names?

    Ogg Vorbis

    MPEG layer 3

    IceWeasel

    Opera

    Thunderbird

    LookOut, I mean Outlook

    X

    DirectX

    Prefacing thousands of KDE apps with K

    Win prefix

    1. Re:But is proprietary software any better? by slashtivus · · Score: 1

      MPEG layer 3 is a technical description. Motion Picture Experts Group + layer 3, which was the 3rd iteration of the compression. Nothing wrong with that.

      I was a Netscape user until the piece-of-poo version 7. Opera meant to me: A well orchestrated piece of quality performing software that was designed to be the sum greater than its pieces. Nothing wrong with that.

      Outlook is a bit off, but really, since it also included a scheduler and email, it was a way to see "Out" to the world (email) and see "Out" to the future (schedule). Nothing wrong with that.

      I'll give you DirectX and Winmodem (win-etc), though.

  117. neoneoneoconservativism by karl3 · · Score: 1

    wow, "so you can feel confident you're not taking the advice of say a 13-year-old boy". do we officially have neoneoneoconservativism!? they even had to use the number 13...

  118. Bing vs. Google by tepples · · Score: 1

    Doesn't mean that Bing still wasn't a dumb choice of a name for the "new" Live Search.

    What makes Bing any worse than Google, other than that Bing is newer and hasn't yet been promoted?

    1. Re:Bing vs. Google by FlyingBishop · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google doesn't sound like a euphemism for sexual intercourse when used as a verb.

      Also, Google is a reference to the massive number of webpages available through their service.

      Bing! is a mindless word MS expects to 'sound cool.'

      I'd call it an epic fail. Compare:

      I just Google'd Jessica Alba.
      I just Bing'd Jessica Alba.

      ?

    2. Re:Bing vs. Google by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

      Google might very well have been a reference to googol, but the first time I heard of it I thought it was much more like ogle or goggle and I know I'm not alone (perhaps a statistically meaningless sample, but not a solitary one). So it might have a reference to all the massive number of webpages available through their service but I thought it was more that you could look at the web through their service.

      That being said, whether I'm right or you are (or perhaps both), it has some reference to what the service does. Bing on the other hand is just the name of a roommate I had in college.

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    3. Re:Bing vs. Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever you may have thought it sounded like, they're right, you're wrong.

    4. Re:Bing vs. Google by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Google doesn't sound like a euphemism for sexual intercourse when used as a verb.

      I dunno. I vaguely recall this exchange from a old "Buffy" ep:

      "Did you google her"
      "Willow, she's 17". :)

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  119. Shoulda called it the Soprano by axl917 · · Score: 1

    Bada Bing!

  120. I am dubious at best by tim1602 · · Score: 1

    "It also adds unique tools to help the user make important decisions" Well as long as we can have the Government and Microsoft helping us make "important decisions" we should be fine.

  121. What does Wolfram Alpha know about Bing? by anderesa · · Score: 1

    Q : What computational answer does Wolfram Alpha return about Bing as input?
    A : Language spoken by 1200 people in Papua New Guinea.

    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=bing&t=igg01

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  122. Yeesh. by neiras · · Score: 1

    Yet another search engine?

    Redundant. Redundant.

  123. BING-O? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like Micro$oft is one letter short again...

    Or is that pronounced like "binge" - as in "I was on a searching binge all night trying to find a real search engine".

  124. Because it's badder. by chrisbtoo · · Score: 1

    Badda bing!

    Sorry if it's been done.

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  125. Reminds me of an old Dylan song... by crovira · · Score: 1

    "How many roads must a man walk down..."

    before they "bing" him in the head with a brick.

    Microsoft, living examples of the principle of:

      "You might be an idiot if you do something over and over again,
        and you keep expecting different outcomes,
        and are genuinely surprised when you step in the same shit again."

    This time, its not working.

    There are now anti-trust regulations and Microsoft can't try the old "buy out, or out spend, the opposition."

    They were to late to the party.

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  126. Wii by Longfinger · · Score: 4, Informative

    If the Slashdot crowd's reaction to a new brand has any predictive power, then Bing is going to be a big hit.

    http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/27/1625208

  127. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Alinabi · · Score: 1

    Given the way Microsoft behaves, it's probably gonna be Bada Bing!

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  128. 'Kumo' == 'spider' / 'cloud' in Japanese by helpacoder · · Score: 1

    Seems an apt name for the search engine, so why change the name?

  129. Bring me a shrubbery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or I'll say Bing!
    Bing!
    Bing!

  130. I hear... by mrCasual · · Score: 1

    ... it beats its kids.

  131. Re:Bing? Seriously? by TheUser0x58 · · Score: 1

    The difference is that someone (or more likely a team of people) was paid to come up with "Bing". Not so for the majority of what you've mentioned.

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  132. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Speare · · Score: 1

    I prefer "binge," but "bung" beats "bling."

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  133. But, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to fucking KILL Gooogle!

    Steve Ballmer

  134. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wine is perfectly good, for example.

    But WINE Is Not an Emulator!
    :D

  135. B.I.N.G by CptnQuixar · · Score: 1

    Ballmer Is Not Gates

    Ballmer's Ideas Never Gel

    Ballmer's Into Negating Google

  136. Re:Bing? Seriously? by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    Hey, I happen to like the KDE beatboxing app... KRap

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  137. Re:Bing - the sound of being ricocheted all over M by rts008 · · Score: 1

    "Bing" huh, it reminds me of the sound of a ricochet and than makes me think...

    [my mental image completed this sentence as...] ...of Ricochet Rabbit and Droop-a-long Coyote.

    "Bing, bing, BING!, Ricochet Rabbit!"

    IMHO, Microsoft is not anywhere near as cool as Ricochet Rabbit!

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  138. Apologies to John Sladek by Orgasmatron · · Score: 1

    "Tik-Tok, like you to meet Neeta Hup, the President's Special Advisor on
    Communications; what was it?"
    She laughed. "Special Advisor on Leisure Communications, Media
    Aesthetics and Bong."
    "Bong?" I asked, as Hornby drifted away again.
    "I felt the word _Art_ didn't belong on the end of a string of syllables
    like that, so I changed it to _Bong_," she said. "The President was furious,
    but so far no one else official has noticed. Maybe I'll try introducing bong
    into the language. People are tired of art, give them bong."
    "For bong's sake," I murmured. "_How_ do you advise?"
    "I buy, I make acquisitions for the President's collection. He wants to
    be the biggest bong collector since Goering. He's heard what a good investment
    it is, isn't that pathetic?"
    "Oh, I don't know. Money is real, money endures. All the noblest
    sentiments can be beautifully expressed in money. If everyone showered artists
    with money whenever they saw them, wouldn't this be a finer world?"

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  139. Bing? by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

    Is the the sound a flying chair makes when it hit a developer's skull when Ballmer throws a fit about being owned online?

  140. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by that logic wouldn't step 7 really be step (n + 1)

  141. You can cover a piece of poop in gold.... by JasonWM · · Score: 1

    but all you have is a gold plated piece of poop

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  142. The sound of "found": Bob Hope by David+Gerard · · Score: 1

    This morning, our dear leader Steve Ballmer is unveiling our completely new search service, unrelated to anything we at Microsoft have ever done before: Bob Hope.

    We spent lots of time listening to you, except when you told us how much MSN Search^W Live Search^W Kumo sucked ’cause you're just wrong about that, to learn which buzzwordy Web 2.0 thingies you use search for today. Finding a webpage that has anything to do with the search terms you entered is so passé, dahling.

    So today we're introducing a new kind of search, that goes beyond traditional search engines that do tedious things like find stuff, to instead help you make faster, more informed decisions. (Windows 7 is peachy keen, by the way.) We think of Bob Hope as a Decision Engine. We've sued Stephen Wolfram into atomic dust using our patents on FAT and Mono, co-opted the Wolfram Alpha engine and swapped Mathematica for Visual Basic and Wolfram's brain for the exhumed corpse of Bob Hope.

    So why did we pick Bob Hope as the new brand name? We needed a brand that was as fresh and new as our approach. It needed to be like the product: optimized for the Internet. A name that was memorable, short, easy to spell, and that would function well as a URL around the world.

    And just look at these results!

    What do we want?
    Braaains.
    When do we want them?
    Braaains.
    What do I need to run Windows 7?
    Braaains.
    What's Bill Gates got that means you should buy everything you can from the company he founded?
    Braaains.
    What's the final proof of Steve Ballmer's equal genius to Steve Jobs?
    Vistaaa.

    This is something new, something improved! You need to try it! It'll give so much more betterer results than that other search engine we can't name because Steve will wedge another chair up our butts! Please, come and try our new and improved service! FOR GOD'S SAKE TRY THE DAMN SERVICE. OR THE PUPPY GETS IT. We're Microsoft. We're serious as a heart attack on this one.

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  143. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    4. Government bailout.

  144. Re:Bing? Seriously? by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

    Nice loop unrolling! Does that make it go faster?

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  145. Re:Bing? Seriously? by ozbird · · Score: 1

    So what's the new branding going to be after this one fails? Bong?

    <sound="Game show fail">Bing bow?</sound>

  146. Hey Chandler by HermMunster · · Score: 1

    Hey Chandler, Chandler, Chandler Bing.

    I'm sorry but these guys at Microsoft just need to give up software and sell XBOXes and Zunes and leave the rest of the world to clean up their mess.

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  147. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Arterion · · Score: 1

    The Bing Bong Brothers?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4iiyRv_NrQ

    Yeah, I don't really like that one.

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  148. Ned Ryerson? by clarkn0va · · Score: 1

    ""Needlenose Ned"? "Ned the Head"? C'mon, buddy. Case Western High. Ned Ryerson: I did the whistling belly-button trick at the high school talent show? Bing! Ned Ryerson: got the shingles real bad senior year, almost didn't graduate? Bing, again."

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  149. Re:Bing? Seriously? by dzfoo · · Score: 1

    It depends on whether Bill Gates participates in the publicity campaign.

              -dZ.

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  150. Re:Bing? Seriously? by mqduck · · Score: 1

    It's just that (4) isn't clear.

    Congrats on figuring out the meme. ;)

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  151. Read It As... by mqduck · · Score: 1

    I read the headline as "Microsoft rebrands Live Search with 'bling'", which will likely prove closer to the truth.

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  152. Re:Bing? Seriously? by anonymousNR · · Score: 1


    Oh My God.
    <Voice>

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  153. In other news, the Crosby estate... by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

    In other news, the Crosby estate sues Microsoft for violation of trade dress in re: "Bing's Greatest Hits" volumes 1 through 94.

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  154. Re:Bing? Seriously? by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 0

    -iWork
    -iTunes
    -iMovie
    -iPod
    -iPhone
    -iMac
    ...is Apple any better? I sometimes flinch when I talk about Oggs or the GIMP, but Apple's names sound pretty cheesy too. I think any name for software is going to strike the wrong nerve with someone, because everyone has their own personal tastes. Even the GNOME apps with names like 'Web Browser', and 'Text Editor' (not their real names, but what the environment - and by extension, the user - refers to them as) are boring and ordinary. Your name can be the stupidest thing in the world, but at least people will remember it, which is all that counts.

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  155. We finally know what phase 2 is!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Phase 1: Collect Underpants
    Phase 2: Bing
    Phase 3: Profit!

  156. OneNote's pretty awesome by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 1
    I don't know if it counts as something as generic as "technology innovations" but it's a damned fine piece of note-taking software.

    Pretty much the only app I wish I could have on my linux box, and have spent time looking to replace (unsuccessfully)

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    1. Re:OneNote's pretty awesome by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      The point is, what technology has MS really innovated? I'm fairly sure collaborative software isn't a MS innovation. I'm not really familiar with that piece of software - so you may need to correct me here. Typically the items people offer have been acquisitions of other companies who have innovated. Rebranding and marketing is the business model of a marketing company, not a technology company.

      Marketing and acquisition is now MS' primary focus - and has been for over a decade. And to be clear, I don't have a problem with that business model, but it doesn't make them a technology company as its no longer their core business focus. The fact that they are marketing technology is only a secondary consideration.

  157. I'll guess it makes a sound more like... by pbrooks100 · · Score: 1

    thud. Google FTW!

  158. Re:Bing? Seriously? by noidentity · · Score: 1

    Bing! from the company that brought squirting to the masses.

  159. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Kagura · · Score: 1

    His name was Robert Paulson.

  160. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hum...Let' see..

    • 1 - Make crappy search engine.
    • 2 - Fail at taking over the world with crappy search engine
    • 3 - Rebrand crappy search engine with new look
    • 4 - GOTO step 2
    • 5 - PROFIT!!

    There, fixed that for you.

  161. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

    - Ogg Vorbis

    Ogg: Named after a game tactic akin to a single-unit zerg rush
    Vorbis: book character
    Theora: TV character
    Xiph (foundation developing ogg): a fish

    - Apache

    Indians, by military helicopters are cooler.

    - IceWeasel

    Pun on 'Firefox'

    - Thunderbird

    Vaguely similar in theme to Firefox, also the name of a car

    - X

    It's Unix predecessor was 'W', I believe.

    - Prefacing thousands of KDE apps with K

    Why not?

  162. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they would like into the 'hip' crowd, maybe they could call it "Coolgle"?

    I think the Fonz would approve. Heyyyy :p

  163. CA - Computer Associates - Could Learn From This by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Among Microsoft's many problems as a company is that they seem to systematically change the names of their products every few years. This is an incredibly wasteful policy.

    CA have renamed their products several times in the last few years which has resulted in great confusion and annoyance.

    The overhaul of their website doesn't help either. I *STILL* can't find pages that I have bookmarked in the past. To be more specific, some pages are still there.. I just can't figure how to get to them using the menu.

    It is lovely reporting to management that the procurement is for CA's 'SCM' software.
    Oh, what's that?
    "Software" "Change" "Manager"
    # Right. Ok. I got that we need software for change management and that CA has something we can use.
    > yes. It's called CA Software Change Manager
    # Okay. Right. So, this works for everything?
    > No. Just midrange. For mainframe it is "Software Change Manager for Mainframe"
    # Isn't that what you just said?
    > No. "Software" "Change" "Manager" is for midrange. "Software Change Manager for Mainframe" is for mainframe.
    # Okay. Right. Thank you for clearning that up...
    > *sigh* Listen. CA have two products. One is called "Harvest". It is for software change management on midrange. They also have a product called "Endevor". This is for software change managemenr for mainframe.
    # Why didn't you just say so?
    > *sigh* Because CA rebranded Harvest to 'SCM' and Endevor to 'SCM for Mainframe'.
    # That is confusion.
    > No. Really?

    I've had this conversation at least 10 times now in meetings. There is a very good reason why you pick a NAME for your software - to identify it what it is, what it does, how it is used, who should use it.. etc. Giving it a bland generic name can be really annoying when it isn't used by everyone on the planet.

  164. Re:Bing? Seriously? by hawkingradiation · · Score: 1

    4. is the same as 1, 2 and 3 ad nauseum: doing "something" but will never result in 5. Time for an organizational shuffle.

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  165. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hum...Let' see..

    • 1 - Make crappy search engine.
    • 2 - Fail at taking over the world with crappy search engine
    • 3 - Rebrand crappy search engine with new look
    • 4 - ??????
    • 5 - PROFIT!!

    It's just that (4) isn't clear.

    4 - GoTo 2

    Crappy programming, I know. But hey, it's Microsoft! And then they are left wondering why they never reach the Profit-part...

  166. When? by mathman47 · · Score: 1

    Anybody know when Bing will be released? So far I haven't able to Bing (or Google) that info.

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  167. Re:Bing - the sound of being ricocheted all over M by Locutus · · Score: 1

    I thought it was Droop-a-long Cassidy. Right-eo on the MS is not-as-cool factor.

    LoB

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  168. Never name things without research by coffeechica · · Score: 1

    Dubious product qualities aside, 1.3 billion Chinese won't want to touch it. "Bing" (pronounced like non-Chinese people are likely to) means "illness" or "plague". It's a really common word.

  169. Re:Bing? Seriously? by chthon · · Score: 1

    I always supposed that Ogg came from Nanny Ogg, which is also a character in the Discworld series.

  170. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

    I always supposed that Ogg came from Nanny Ogg.

    Word of God* says no.

    *I have lost hours of my time to that website.

  171. Not so good in Scotland either ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... where a bing is one of those large heaps of unwanted stuff that is dug out of a coal mine - a slagheap in other words.

  172. Re:Bing? Seriously? by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    "Bong: Searches for sure."

  173. Favicon by Tronks · · Score: 0

    The web's favicon looks suspiciously similar to ebuddy's logo.

  174. I'm immature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The video froze on me for some reason near the beginning, leaving me with the image of someone searching for "world's largest rod"...

  175. Re:Bing? Seriously? by xtracto · · Score: 1

    Oh shit... whoever wrote this should really get those mod points (in a non-anon account).

    This is one of the most funny comments I have read in a long time :)

    I hope you don't mind using this as my new sig :)

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  176. Re:Bing? Seriously? by xtracto · · Score: 1

    Actualy it's:

    • 1 - Make crappy search engine.
    • 2 - DO
    • 3 - Rebrand crappy search engine with new look
    • 4 - Fail at taking over the world with crappy search engine with new look
    • 5 - ???
    • 6 - while (Fail)
    • 7 - PROFIT!!

    They're still in step 3.

            -dZ.

    I think it is more like that...

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  177. To hell with karma by TractorBarry · · Score: 1

    Sadly all this did was remind me of a (very) poor joke (which should really be said in a Scottish accent).

    Q: What's the difference between Bing Crosby and Walt Disney ?
    A: Bing sings and Walt disnae.

    Sorry about that :)

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  178. Google is from "googol", not "goggle". by KWTm · · Score: 1

    For me, non-native English speaker, "google" meant nothing. Yeah, I know it's a misspelling for "goggle"

    No, "Google" is a misspelling of "googol". (That's why the Chinese version is called "Baidu", which means "googol".) Actually the word came from the founder's baby daughter (not sure if Sergey's or Larry's), but the founder remembered that the word had a meaning so he went with that.

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  179. Faulty financual comparison, 5 yard penalty. by dj_segfault · · Score: 1

    Shame on the author for comparing MSFT's net profit/loss to Google's gross sales.

  180. Re:Bing? Seriously? by wastedlife · · Score: 1

    - Thunderbird

    Vaguely similar in theme to Firefox, also the name of a car

    I'm pretty sure the name thunderbird came before firefox. Originally it was called Minotaur when Firefox was called Phoenix. The Phoenix BIOS people complained of trademark violation, so Mozilla started calling it Mozilla Phoenix. Phoenix Technologies was still pissed so they renamed it Firebird. The Firebird database people then complained about the name. Again, Mozilla tried "Mozilla Firebird" before changing to Firefox. Thunderbird was named in reference to Firebird, but I'm not 100% sure if that move was before or after the switch to Firefox.

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  181. Re:Bing? Seriously? by wastedlife · · Score: 1

    This was funny the first few times it was posted.

    Anyway, Debian stable is a fantastic server OS, where you install, configure it for your needs, and leave it, installing security updates as needed.

    Ubuntu server LTS versions are good too if you want to have an easy install and paid support from Canonical, but you pay for it by some stupid dependency configs and unnecessary packages. I'm not sure if they fixed this in more recent versions, but if for example you have the "ubuntu-desktop" package installed, you can't remove Firefox without removing the entire "ubuntu-desktop" package. Granted, you can configure X, Gnome (or KDE or XFCE or whatever), and the rest of the DE. But you might as well use Debian at that point. Before you say that you should not need a DE on a server, I know this, but many paying clients wont accept that.

    For normal desktop use, Ubuntu is fantastic, it is nice to not spend many hours configuring the base OS, and just have a quick install with most things configured the right way by default.

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  182. Yeah, you're right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, you're right... everyone else thought it was a great name. :P

  183. Me too! by clevergeek · · Score: 1

    That's the same sound I make every time I come to a conclusion... This may be the search engine for me!

  184. oblig by RexDevious · · Score: 1

    "Bing!"

    That means your business model is still alive!

  185. Re:Bing? Seriously? by suffe · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't that be Chanandler Bong?

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  186. Re:Bing? Seriously? by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

    Quit giving them ideas, nitwit!

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  187. Re:Bing? Seriously? by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

    I am a stoner M$ hater, you insensitive clod!

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    I know tobacco is bad for you, so I smoke weed with crack.
  188. Bing Is Not Google by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Amazing nobody has mentioned this.

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    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
  189. Re:Bing? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, step 5 is simply, "GOTO 3"