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" - added support for CodeWeavers' CrossOver plug-in (provides support for QuickTime, etc.) screenshot"

It's CodeWeavers , not CodeWarrior .
But both make great products.

You download the CrossOver plugin, and then you can run the installer for the Windows version of Quicktime under you precious GNU/Linux.

Crossover. It plays Quicktime, Shockwave, Ipix, Efax, and other win32 web browser plugins under Linux.

Works with Galeon, Moz, Netscape, and KDE 2.2.2 (currently in CVS).

Proprietary license, but most code is given right back to the Wine project. In fact, Codeweavers seems to be almost THE Wine project - founder Alexander Julliard and many other core Wine developers earn their living at Codeweavers. So they seem good for the community.

Download the demo or buy the real thing here.

I own it, and its good (especially the recent 1.01 version). Yay trailers for movies that won't come out in Australia for ages, and banned Bjork film clips!

I believe Wine is LGPL.

This entry in the Wine FAQ says otherwise:

Wine is free software, and its license (contained in the file LICENSE in each distribution) is X11 style.
Basically, this means that you can do anything with Wine except claim that you wrote it.

I seem to remember reading about a license change to an X-style license at one point.

I think the problem with running Wine on anything other than x86 is the need to interpret x86 machine code.

Yes, hence my references to interpreters and binary-to-binary translators.

Even if you got it to work, it would be slow.

Well, with a good binary-to-binary translator, it might not be. Anybody know how well FX!32 did running NT/x86 binaries on NT/Alpha?

But even there I expect Windows source code to have a lot of x86 assumptions.

Some might, some might not. (Then again, there's probably an unfortunate amount of code written for Linux with x86 assumptions or, at least, "the world is little-endian" assumptions; I've certainly seen code contributed to Ethereal, for example, which worked only on little-endian machines....)

unless maybe while on a LSD type trip Codeweavers ports Wine to Solaras x86.

The "about" page on the Wine Web site says Wine "works on most popular Intel Unixes, including Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris."

Wine is tighed as tightly to x86 as Windows is.

Well, that depends on the part of Wine you're talking about. As the "about" page says:

Wine provides both a development toolkit (Winelib) for porting Windows sources to Unix and a program loader, allowing unmodified Windows 3.1/95/NT binaries to run under Intel Unixes.

The program loader part - which is what CrossOver uses - is tied to x86 (I guess if somebody were really ambitious they could try to make it run MIPS, PowerPC, or Alpha Windows NT binaries - and at some point somebody might do that for IA-64 - but there are a lot fewer non-x86 Windows binaries than x86 Windows binaries, so there's probably not going to be much effort devoted to that soon). So you probably aren't going to see CrossOver for Solaris/SPARC; Solaris/x86 might be possible, but there's probably not much effort going to be devoted to that, either.

(Well, I suppose somebody could try gluing an x86 interpreter, or x86-binary-to-native-binary translator, to Wine, to make a version to run x86 binaries on non-x86 UNIXes, along the lines of Sun's WABI. I don't know whether anybody's thinking about that, however.)

The Winelib library, however, does, I think, work on non-x86 platforms, letting somebody who has source to a Windows application - that "somebody" might be the developer; the idea is, I think, that this can be used for closed-source applications, which I suspect is why WINE isn't GPLed or LGPLed - port it to UNIX.

One of the services that Codeweavers offers is assistance in porting Windows applications to Linux; they speak of "native versions", so this may involve using Winelib.

If it counts, i'm another happy user of the CrossOver Plugin. What got me to jump on board and fork over cash for the 1.0 release? Easy. truth in advertising.

Maybe a little off-topic, but when is Codeweavers going to release another preview version on Wine 1.0? Their "preview versions" work better than the snapshots at the Wine page.

inquiring minds want to know.

They have an interesting coming soon product. I'm referring to the second item, basically a simple client workstation built just to run Windows apps, but without purchasing Windows. I don't think this'll take off for internet appliances (might as well make a special Linux distro for that with custom apps), but it may open some eyes to other possiblities. Maybe distros built specifically to replace MS licenses. Maybe transitional product lines for moving MS users to free-as-in-speech platforms. I think making that transitional product is a great idea, and of course charging for it is logical and potentially very profitable in the long run.

Having transitional products is the best way to show corporations how much money they can save from MS licenses, while getting them onto free software. This is very and sounds like a great business model (at least for this specific product).

List of Fixes in 1.0.1

• Support for Powerpoint Viewer 97/2000.
• Support for ModPlug.
• Now available as a demo version.
• Better handling of xalf via a new LDPreload option.
• Fixed the 'XtDisplayToApplicationContext undefined symbol' that appeared with Mozilla 0.9.4 and later releases.
• Fixed an incompatibility with the SVGA driver of the XFree 86 servers.
• Fixed the title corruption that was occuring in QuickTimePlayer in 24bpp.
• Fixed the QuickTime plugin progress bar behavior in 24bpp.
• Fixed a clipboard related lockup that could happen during QuickTime installation.
• Fixed the handling of file names containing spaces. Especially useful with the Microsoft viewers.
• Updated to the new QuickTime installer and fixed the installer update issues.
• Fixed the TechTV channel QuickTimePlayer freeze. All channels should work now.
• Added 'out-of-the-box' printing support.
• Added a quicktimeplayer.sh script to let you start the
• QuickTimePlayer from the command line.
• Added traces to make it easier to diagnose font problems.
• Added the regapi Wine tool and a script, regapi.sh to launch it more easily.
• Improved cleanup_crossover.sh to really kill all Wine processes.
• Improved winedbg support to help us better diagnose problems.
• Many other improvements in the pluginsetup interface, the documentation and various other bug fixes.

I'd pay for a port of DirectX that *worked*. I wouldn't pay for the *chance* that said port will come out (i.e. Codeweaver's subscription philosophy) when there's really a lower chance that it will happen.

I think you're confusing Codeweavers with Transgaming. Codeweavers is selling a product to support Quicktime, Shockwave, and a few other plugins on Linux. It works right now. Transgaming is selling subscriptions for effort in supporting Windows games.

If it counts, i'm another happy user of the CrossOver Plugin. What got me to jump on board and fork over cash for the 1.0 release? Easy. truth in advertising.

They made a point of telling the truth about their product and are making all due effort to support and enhance it. Great company who are doing a needed service for the Community. Not only that, they are a major supporter of the wine project. Got a few bucks? They deserve our support.
As for me, the software has been absolutely flawless. I did have some issues on a Mandrake box but it ended up being Crossover was fighing a battle with Plugger. One minor plugin deletion / restart later it installed like a dream.
Support the community! They deserve it!

Note that the movie from the quicktime standalone screenshot on their site is CmdrTaco's "Hamster Havoc".

I purchased Crossover several weeks ago and have been completely satisfied. Quicktime works great. Being able to watch the Fellowship of the Ring trailer on Linux is great! Shockwave works well for many sites. (In particular, Shockwave plugins for stuff like 3D has problems.) Codeweaver's tech support mailing list is great, the developers reply quickly and are very helpful.

While I would prefer that Crossover be free software, at least Codeweavers is contributing most of their improvements back to the main Wine project. Pretty much only the Crossover plugin itself is proprietary software. Buying Crossover is a great way to support the development of Wine and get Quicktime support on Linux right now.

I purchased Crossover several weeks ago and have been completely satisfied. Quicktime works great. Being able to watch the Fellowship of the Ring trailer on Linux is great! Shockwave works well for many sites. (In particular, Shockwave plugins for stuff like 3D has problems.) Codeweaver's tech support mailing list is great, the developers reply quickly and are very helpful.

While I would prefer that Crossover be free software, at least Codeweavers is contributing most of their improvements back to the main Wine project. Pretty much only the Crossover plugin itself is proprietary software. Buying Crossover is a great way to support the development of Wine and get Quicktime support on Linux right now.

The links for HTTP and FTP download don't work for me but I found the directory anyway Clem.

The quicktime movies work just fine on linux with the CodeWeavers CrossOver plugin. I view movie trailers on Apple's site all the time from within Galeon, Mozilla, or Netscape.

You can download it here.

Jeremy White, CEO, CodeWeavers

I submitted this as an article when it was announced but it was rejected. Apparently, weekly articles complaining about editors' inability to run QuickTime (while they're happily playing one Windows-only game after another) is News For Nerds, but a solution isn't.

go get crossover plug-in, watch quicktime on linux, stop complaining, smile.

computers never mkae mistooks. --Tandy T1000

go get crossover plug-in, watch quicktime on linux, stop complaining, smile.

computers never mkae mistooks. --Tandy T1000

Use this Crossover plugin from Codeweavers to play the Quicktime movies under Linux ! It uses wine and works great under Mozilla / Galeon / Netscape.

I just saw the trailer with it ... yowza ;-)

XMMS does have Quicktime support, but none of the Linux Quicktime players can play most Internet movies, because they use the proprietary Sorenson codec, of which there is no Linux port (except for the CodeWeavers plugin that uses Wine).

Why do so few people ask us for help?

Is it because it's mostly the developers trying this, who have no budget? Or am I missing something else?

Thanks for listening,
Jeremy White, CodeWeavers

Wine has improved dramatically in the last six months. Might be worth a new try. It now includes compile installation scripts, or just get CodeWeavers Wine, which many people seem to find easy to use (haven't tried it myself).

As for DLLs, Wine simply has not completed implementing all the DLLs, and not all of them are perfectly implemented. That is why Wine is still considered alpha software. But the DLL situation is much better today than six months ago. And it continues to improve daily.

By the way, Codeweavers also has an application database which indicates success and/or failure that many people have had installing various apps under Wine, both with and without Windows.

Wine has improved dramatically in the last six months. Might be worth a new try. It now includes compile installation scripts, or just get CodeWeavers Wine, which many people seem to find easy to use (haven't tried it myself).

As for DLLs, Wine simply has not completed implementing all the DLLs, and not all of them are perfectly implemented. That is why Wine is still considered alpha software. But the DLL situation is much better today than six months ago. And it continues to improve daily.

By the way, Codeweavers also has an application database which indicates success and/or failure that many people have had installing various apps under Wine, both with and without Windows.

Or if you are using Linux, then you can go to Codeweavers and get the Crossover Plugin (which comes with Quicktime 5). Not free, but it is cheap. It works great with Linux and Netscape for me on the Apple movie trailers; the chemistry movies appear to be /.ed.

Quicktime is a wrapper format. It works at a nigher layer than the actual codec, which can be be any number of format,s but is usually Sorenson.

Sorenson is exclusively licensed to apple. The Linux programs that play and make Quicktime fils do so with other codecs. You can play the films made on Linux back under Windows Quicktime, but 99.95% of the content avaliable on the web won't play under these Linux players, because they're Sorenson, and the players don't support Sorenson.

For Quicktime under Linux, use Codeweavers crossover

As far as I know, quicktime doesn't run under Wine (at least not for me).

You can run QuickTime on Linux. You can even run it as a browser plugin in Netscape, Mozilla and soon Konqueror. Just go over to CodeWeaver's web site:
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover

Besides, there already are quicktime players for Linux. They just can't play movies encoded with the propriatery Sorenson codec

And most movies out there are based on the Sorenson codec. Which is why running QuickTime with CrossOver is interesting: it lets you play Sorenson movies, and with good performance (which is not the case of many other solutions like xanim).

which Apple couldn't port anyway because the owners of the codec won't give permission for a port.

If Apple had really wanted to port QuickTime to Linux they would have found a way to do so. The truth is they have not done it in the past four years (just counting from 1997 when Linux became more 'popular'), so there is no reason to expect them to do it now. And they may not have any incentive until the Linux market share on the desktop grows. And this is the whole point of things like CrossOver and Wine: remove the "but I cannot run all my Windows applications" obstacle that stop people from even considering switching to Linux (true for both users and software vendors).

Once Linux owns a big part of the desktop market, we will see companies write native Linux applications. Until then, Wine and CrossOver are the catalysts that can help Linux gain that market-share.

Also, The official AOL client works
under WINE (You'll probably have the best luck using the 16-bit version of the AOL client).

If you check the Linux Half-Life page you will find the HOWTO.

Full disclosure: I tried this once and I couldn't get it to work. However, I run a bleeding-edge Debian "unstable" system, and perhaps WINE was unstable that day. I plan to try this again soon.

By the way, Starcraft and other fun games run well under WINE. You can check the WINE app database to see if other people have had success running a particular game.

Good luck and happy gaming!

steveha

Alas, no. It is commercial software available from CodeWeavers.

As I understand it, revenue from the sales of this plugin is an important source of funding for their work on the WINE project. So if you want to help WINE or if you really want to see Sorensen QTs (and other things) play on x86 Linux or you just want to marvel at a hack, and $20 isn't too much for you, head over to their web site with your credit card number and you'll be downloading it in just a few minutes.

If $20 is too much for "just a browser plugin" and WINE development is not of interest to you or you refuse to "pollute" your system with non-free software, then CrossOver will not be useful to you.

As with many things, we all share the powers and responsiblities.

You can play Sorenson movies on Linux using the CrossOver plugin.

Granted, you have to pay for it (just $20 for the download version) but it is possible.
CrossOver will also let you use other plugins like Shockwave (also known as director!=flash) and the Word/Excel/Powerpoint viewers. Also you will have the satisfaction to have helped a company that contributes a lot to Wine (which is open-source).

Although I haven't tried it with this movie yet, you might want to check out Codeweavers' CrossOver Plugin. It's a hacked version of WINE that serves as an environment for running MS Windows plugins on x86 Linux. Costs $20 or $30 if I recall. I'll give it a try tonight on this particular clip and post a followup regarding success (assuming I remember to do it, am successful at downloading the clip, etc).

... is of course the S l a s h d o t E f f e c t.

Sooo... congresscritters are thinking of passing a nasty ole law? Rob could just threaten to post a story like "An anonymous coward writes: Streaming video of Natalie Portmans hot grit's posted to the US Congress Web site. "([sic] - TacoLexicon in force. my real grammar is better.)

Congress would naturally cave in and meet all our demands. Well, maybe not RMS's...

I bet this comes up with every wine post, but according to the name, the sourceforge page, and one of the the FAQ answers, WINE is not an emulator. Much like GNU is not UNIX. :)

-Puk

I bet this comes up with every wine post, but according to the name, the sourceforge page, and one of the the FAQ answers, WINE is not an emulator. Much like GNU is not UNIX. :)

-Puk

Go to Codeweavers. It'll cost you a couple of bucks, but it's worth it.

Oh, and yes, this is the only thing out there that works.

I'm not sure what constitutes some of these relationships; I thought Gnucash had been cut loose, but maybe I'm wrong. Does anyone have information about these corporate sponsorships, or what Xandros's acquisition of Corel means for them?

Then what the hell is it? An emulator?

Bochs is an emulator. TuxNES is an emulator. DGen is an emulator. SNES9x is an emulator. Transmeta's Crusoe uses Code Morphing, which is an emulator. But WINE is not an emulator but "an implementation of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs on top of X and Unix. Think of Wine as a Windows compatibility layer" for FreeBSD, Linux, and Solaris. It's also a complete Windows application server that uses thin clients called X11 terminals.

Good chance that they already use some CAD program on *nix, probably Irix. Thier sales force which most of that 33,000 likely only use Desktop productivity software plus broswer and email. All of which is available on GNU/Linux, even if some of it is proprietary software like Applixware or Corel Wordperfect. The OpenOffice, Gnome Office, and KOffice all are shaping up pretty well, and any one of them would meet at least 99% of your needs.

Any internal applications should be available in source code and probably can be recompiled for a new OS. And there are companies such as CodeWeavers that are ready to help with the porting effort.
BTW, thanks troll, this might be a good start on my master's thesis.

Let's see what Code Weavers did - they emulated the part to run Windows version Netscape plugins. Meaning - if you install a player/plugin which supports Netscape (like all of them *currently* do) - then you'll be able to use it under Netscape, Mozilla and Konqueror (with Konqueror's Netscape plugin support). The whole thing will be just a Linux Netscape plugin. Now - 2 things: A. they released it for embedded devices, and it costs the developer money. B. It only supports those players who supports Netscape plugins. They will release a Desktop version later this year if I understood correctly. Now - let's see what Malte and Niko (the reaktivate guys) did:

The reaktivate idea is quite simple - a small layer added in higher priority to nsplugins layer in Konqueror. Now - when an app wants to install ActiveX, wine will run and the application will things this is Windows and MSIE, so it's kosher to install ActiveX. Then Reaktivate will download the ActiveX, asks the user premission to install and installs it on the wine [you don't need any windows DLL's - one of the authors doesn't have any windows installation at all - so he's making it sure the Reaktivate development can be run without any windows stuff needed - so fake Windows directory which wine can create is enough). Now - regarding the security - I understood that they'll add layer of protection, and probably the signature check for any ActiveX before installation. Add to that the your actives will run CHRoot, and as a user (not root), then you got a pretty good protection. The Reaktivate way will let you install new plugins in case the software house decides that Netscape plugin is not necessary because of a very small browser market [for example]

For about $6,000 (less if you already have "old" computers), you can set-up a lab with e-mail, browsers, office suites, image programs...

But, as another poster mentioned, can K12LTSP run Reader Rabbit? It's not listed in the educational games section of the WINE compatibility database.

Consider using WINE . Nowadays, WINE really works for many applications.

Try the CodeWeavers release. CodeWeavers release packages WINE in a GUI installer-config application. It's easy to set up right first time.

Please, give it a try with that software. You will be nicely surprised.

I was.

Do they release the enhanced portions of their code?

Are you going to do any research at all on this thread, or just continue to make an ass of yourself?

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I glanced around their homepage, and codeweavers don't even seem to be open source, as far as I can tell.

Perhaps you should have done more than glance, as should the moderators who modded you up to +5 for this uninformed opinion.

Their primary product is enhanced Wine, completely Open Source. Even this article makes it clear that they're discussing possible release of this new product under the Artistic License, which is what Perl uses. Folks may argue whether Perl's license is Free Software, but I haven't seen it argued that it ain't Open Source.

They say in their "About" page that they actively support open source.

They link to the FSF on their "links" page.

All their upcoming projects (all of them) are based on Wine, which is under the X11 license.

They're not GPL, but they're Free Software and Open Source as anybody. At this point, more so than Red Hat, for instance.

Oh, yeah; they pay people to work on Wine. They even have a web page devoted to it.

What the hell else do you want from them? Source code for the stuff they haven't written yet?


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oh yeah...

this, from http://www.codeweavers.com/about/news/?view=200012 05b

While it's it may seem like a win for Linux, this is definitely a loss for free software. This will encourage people to use proprietary browser plugins for windows, rather than developing native ones for Linux. This sort of thing will end up restricting Linux to a secondary, niche market, which is just where MS wants it.

I glanced around their homepage, and codeweavers don't even seem to be open source, as far as I can tell. Their mission statement is a perfect piece of corporate doublethink, which might be more plainly interpreted as: "To free Macromedia and Real Networks from the hassle of ever having to support anything except windows ever again."

While it's it may seem like a win for Linux, this is definitely a loss for free software. This will encourage people to use proprietary browser plugins for windows, rather than developing native ones for Linux. This sort of thing will end up restricting Linux to a secondary, niche market, which is just where MS wants it.

I glanced around their homepage, and codeweavers don't even seem to be open source, as far as I can tell. Their mission statement is a perfect piece of corporate doublethink, which might be more plainly interpreted as: "To free Macromedia and Real Networks from the hassle of ever having to support anything except windows ever again."

Have a look at this. It might be what you're looking for.