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Star Wars II (Attack of the clones) Trailer

tjansen writes "The Episode II Trailer is available. You need be a starwars.com member to watch it and must have installed the Quicktime plugin though." I guess thats 2 strikes against me. Glad I saw it in front of Monsters Inc.

451 comments

  1. no membership required... go here by AtaruMoroboshi · · Score: 5, Informative


    http://www.apple.com/trailers/

    1. Re:no membership required... go here by Kargan · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Yes! Thank you! I, for one, find signing up for free things exceedingly annoying. If it's free, WHO CARES WHO I AM? And even if it's not free? Oh, well. Thanks!

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    2. Re:no membership required... go here by cetan · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      because there's been an active push in the past weeks to fuck up the mod system. I've seen hundreds of posts moderated wrong. something and someones are making a very concerted effort to wrongly moderate posts.

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    3. Re:no membership required... go here by ryanr · · Score: 3, Informative

      The large version requires Quicktime pro. That sucks.

    4. Re:no membership required... go here by Kargan · · Score: 1

      Well, that must be why the Slashdot crew asks us at the top of the page every time we log in if we've metamoderated today... Guess we/I should do it.

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    5. Re:no membership required... go here by John_Booty · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes! Thank you! I, for one, find signing up for free things exceedingly annoying. If it's free, WHO CARES WHO I AM? And even if it's not free? Oh, well. Thanks!

      I have more of a problem giving out my personal information for things I AM paying for. Like when Radio Shack, or some other stores, ask you for your address after a purchase, so they can mail you spam, I suppose.

      I don't like having to sign up for free stuff either, but I guess I feel like I've got no right to complain, since I'm not paying for it. Usually I just choose to not sign up for it, or I use fake information.

      It really depends on the situation. In the case of the AOTC teaser, I dont want to give out my personal information just to watch advertising. That's silly. On the other hand, I didn't have a problem giving a fairly large amount of personal information to AMD after I won a sweet Athlon 1800XP and motherboard combo at one of their giveaways. :)

      Still, running a website isn't free though, it's actually quite expensive. Some things on the web are worth giving up a little harmless personal info for, if that's all they're charging you for a valuable service (I wouldn't put the AOTC trailer into this category however). Just keep that in mind...

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    6. Re:no membership required... go here by Klox · · Score: 1

      People are lazy: schwanerhill's post had a hyper link, but your's required a copy-paste (sad but true).

      But as I post this, your post is (Score:5, Informative) and schwanerhill's is (Score:4, Redundant), so maybe I'm wrong...

    7. Re:no membership required... go here by cetan · · Score: 1

      I did, for quite a while, metamoderate every day...but I fell out of the habit of doing it...this is a good reason to come back to it.

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    8. Re:no membership required... go here by Mr_Perl · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just give Radio Shack your current address, the address of the store. What can they say?

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    9. Re:no membership required... go here by jerrytcow · · Score: 1, Informative

      Here's a link to the large version
      http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/img/sw_ctp _640.mov
      This should work without quicktime pro. You'll have to cut and paste, it seems linking it doesn't work.

    10. Re:no membership required... go here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Strong form

      Weak form

      You're welcome - I hope you do well on your ASSignment.

    11. Re:no membership required... go here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my GOD!!! It must be TERRORISTS trying to TAKE OVER SLASHDOT!!!

    12. Re:no membership required... go here by singularity · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      As someone who MM's about six timws a week, I have given up trying to meta-moderate Redundant moderations. Doing so would require me to go back and check the original discussion to see what was posted when.

      I think that the Slashdot team just needs to remove it from the moderation possibilities.

      obTopic: I saw the teaser in the theatre, but it is good tobe able to download it. I am not planning on buying QuickTime Pro anytime soon, though, which sucks. I might have to go to the nearby Apple retail stores. They might have QT Pro installed and then I will be able to watch the trailer on one of their 22" LCD screens.

      The last time I went I downloaded the LOTR trailer and watched that in full screen. Very nice...

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    13. Re:no membership required... go here by cetan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well yes. There's always going to be "the stupids" moderating....but it seems that lately, there seems to be a more concentrated effort to mod down good quality posts. I don't know if it's just me seeing things (or wanting to see things) but the concentration seems "higher" somehow.

      Anyway, at least there still are some intelligent people with mod points to balance...

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    14. Re:no membership required... go here by x31337x · · Score: 2, Flamebait

      TFN has it also no membership required
      http://download.theforce.net/theater/episode2/ep 2_ large.mov

    15. Re:no membership required... go here by pjbass · · Score: 1

      Permission denied. It looks like they removed access to the file.

    16. Re:no membership required... go here by jilles · · Score: 2

      or use one of the p2p solutions. I'm currently downloading it using morpheus. Probably it is also available on the gnutella network.

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    17. Re:no membership required... go here by TWR · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      Oh no! It's a terrorist attack on Slashdot! Will those bastards stop at nothing to wreck our modern society?

      -jon

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    18. Re:no membership required... go here by ethereal · · Score: 1

      It's a lot tougher to fix cases of a first post being incorrectly moderated as "redundant", though, since the posts are no longer numbered from 1 on each article. I've pretty much quit meta-moderating "redundant" moderations because there's no good way to tell without re-reading the whole article.

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    19. Re:no membership required... go here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/img/sw_ctp _640.mov

      There was a space in the link.

    20. Re:no membership required... go here by Cow4263 · · Score: 0

      This reminds me of a recent kuro5hin posting...

      Can I have your zip code?

    21. Re:no membership required... go here by ksheff · · Score: 2

      Tried it. It still points to the one requiring QT 5 pro. Clicking on it sends me to the Apple Store.

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    22. Re:no membership required... go here by sulli · · Score: 1
      All first posts are redundant.

      Anyway, you got first post, right? Isn't that enough?

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    23. Re:no membership required... go here by AtaruMoroboshi · · Score: 1

      Oh great, now this been marked Troll... good one.

    24. Re:no membership required... go here by Hagakure · · Score: 1

      The easiest answer I've ever given Radio Shack employees to their fancy question of "May I please have your name and address" is "No." They usually won't push the issue.

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    25. Re:no membership required... go here by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      Wanted to let everyone know, FilePlanet has got it also!

    26. Re:no membership required... go here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is that if you metamod 3 or more posts as unfair, all 10 of your metamoderations get thrown out. If you metamod 5 or more unfair, you lose karma. How ridiculous is that. I rarely get less than 3 out of 10 unfair and often get 4 or 5. So I have to pick and choose the "best" ones that deserve it. I got tired of knowing that my metamoderation didn't do much good anyway, so I haven't done it in some time either. What a bunch of crap. It's a great idea but we're not even given the chance to help make it work. Oh well.

    27. Re:no membership required... go here by ren1999+disinformati · · Score: 1

      Attack of the Clones is a horrible title. ..and that's all I have to say about that.

    28. Re:no membership required... go here by feelafel · · Score: 1

      Hate to disappoint you there, fella, but that there's a "fake trailer" that was released about a year ago by "Director". I'm sure if you search the /. archives you'll find tell of such a thing.

      hint: freeze the frame on the massive Jedi battle - what? - they're wearing kilts!? Jedi don't wear kilts ...

    29. Re:no membership required... go here by Corvus9 · · Score: 1
      The "trailer" on theForce.net is a fake that's been around for months. It's a bunch of clips from episode I, other movies with the stars, and fan-produced material.

      It is also not even remotely similar to the teaser on http://starwars.apple.com.

    30. Re:no membership required... go here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Thanks for the link.

      It was a nice read.

      Personally, I just say, "No," and that's that.

    31. Re:no membership required... go here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      the mirrors are dead! argh! bloody /. effect!
      is it any surprise that 'Attack of the clones' is an anagram for fatal choke contest!!

    32. Re:no membership required... go here by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Think of it not so much that you are being punished for "abusing" others, but rather that you are using your karma to spend it to make a statement.

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  2. bastards! by jonbrewer · · Score: 1, Funny

    I was just about to watch the trailier, and you had to Slashdot it. arrgh.

    1. Re:bastards! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      I was about to not see the trailer [see my other post: I, for one, do not want to see it!], thanks for slashdotting it! %)

      On another note... who's going to be the first to parody it? South Park? Thumb?, An unknown yet sinister entity?

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    2. Re:bastards! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey check out troops its an old starwars paradoy with stormtroopers doing a cop spinoff. It's pretty funny.

  3. Episode II Trailer@Apple.com by citizenc · · Score: 0, Redundant

    http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/

    StarWars.com member? HA! =)

    1. Re:Episode II Trailer@Apple.com by Elminst · · Score: 1

      Not allowed to view this page error.
      So much for that.

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  4. Mirror by thetechweenie · · Score: 0, Redundant

    OK,
    Whose going to download it, and setup a mirror? I'ld love to see this!

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    1. Re:Mirror by thetechweenie · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yeah,
      This is really redundant. I posted before any posts were showing. You guys should take it easy on some of the first posts. This wasn't a AC doing FP's this was an actual question. Thanks.

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  5. saw at monsters, inc by cloudmaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I saw it at the front of that movie too. I was glad that there was a movie after the trailer, and that I hadn't gone just to see the trailer. The trailer doesn't make me want to see ATOTC, as it's more of a slideshow than a real trailer. Not that Lucas really needs to show anything other than a lightsaber to get the fans to go see it... :)

    1. Re:saw at monsters, inc by jerde · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It depends on your definitions. "Trailers" no longer trail the main feature, so we're already free to redefine.

      I'd call this one a "teaser", not a trailer. For shows that are so far off, the "teasers" give just a sneak peak to pique the interest of the fans.

      Compare to the Lord of the Rings. The teaser gave us glimpses of all three movies; now the true "trailer" for Fellowship is out.

      The Attack of the Clones is still a long ways off, so it'd be inappropriate, IMHO, to show a true three-minute trailer. The slideshow with the breathing was PERFECT, I thought.

      After seeing Hayden Christiansen's performance in Life as a House I am REALLY excited to see Episode 2.

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    2. Re:saw at monsters, inc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do people actually go to a movie JUST to see the "coming attractions"? That'd be extremely pathetic...

    3. Re:saw at monsters, inc by cloudmaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Do people actually go to a movie JUST to see the "coming attractions"? That'd be extremely pathetic...

      I've heard that it happens... *I* wanted to go see Monsters, Inc because of the truly amazing rendering. That big fluffy one with the hair looks like a real puppet in a lot of the shots. The individually rendered hairs on him and really amazing texturing most everywhere else are freaking incredible. The lifelike movement is generally very good as well. The story is decent (but then, I like cartoons anyway), but I went to see some first-class computer animation. It was just a little bonus that there was supposed to be a cool trailer before the movie (though, the trailer wasn't nearly as cool as those seen for the phantom menace). Anyway, if you go, pay attention to the fabrics in motion (like curtains and some clothing) and to the hairs on hairy monsters - especially how they bend around his muscles when he moves and in the scenes where he's moving very quickly. The physics are very well done in that movie.

    4. Re:saw at monsters, inc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FOTR will rule. AOTC will suck. period.

      The teaser sucked too.

    5. Re:saw at monsters, inc by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      I thought that was interesting. Pixar could of used more realistic eyes, but instead went for the muppet/cartoonish look. Why did they not want their monsters to be realistic?

      Or is it just easier to make a toy when the monster is designed like that?

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    6. Re:saw at monsters, inc by cloudmaster · · Score: 2

      I think it's just easier to make a realistic looking toy than a realistic person, as it doesn't have to look just like your uncle ernie. The toy/monster paradigm makes cool effects more belivable, as well. Could a person stick a handful of eyes on their face or turn invisible belivably? Besides, how do you know that monster eyes *don't* actully look like that? ;)

    7. Re:saw at monsters, inc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Somebody* needs to get a life, a g/f or both...

  6. Don't bother by billmaly · · Score: 1

    I saw the trailer as well. No dialog, but Darth's breathing was cool. It's all video, and sheds no light on the story. Patience.....

    1. Re:Don't bother by Flakeloaf · · Score: 0

      Story? You've got to be kidding me.

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    2. Re:Don't bother by Reikk · · Score: 1

      Visual effects, action, and comedy have been the hallmarks of star wars: the story and acting has always taken a backseat..

    3. Re:Don't bother by ahde · · Score: 1

      what do you mean acting took a back seat?

      chewy and r2 got way more callbacks than jar-jar and the haley-joel clone's career didn't turn out any better than luke (who was typecast, plain and simple)

  7. mirror mirror on the wall by DrSpoo · · Score: 0, Redundant

    post those mirrors people! i don't want to login to no stickin' web page...

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  8. Available without registering at Star Wars by schwanerhill · · Score: 3, Informative

    apple.com/trailers/. You still need the QuickTime plugin.

    1. Re:Available without registering at Star Wars by Cutriss · · Score: 2

      QuickTime Pro is only needed for the Large clip. You can view the small/medium clips with QuickTime.

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    2. Re:Available without registering at Star Wars by .pentai. · · Score: 2

      Get the medium clip, use wget to grab it, and play it through the latest quicktime under wine. Works for me atleast, with only minor UI glitches, but the movies are very watchable.

    3. Re:Available without registering at Star Wars by Bradee-oh! · · Score: 1

      I was trying to find the right place to make this comment, replying to this seems as good as any. Surprised no one else posted this discovery - I have Quicktime 5.02, the free version, and the large movie worked just fine - even let me save it to my h/d after viewing. It would seem their claim of PRO being required is b.s.

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    4. Re:Available without registering at Star Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BS. I just downloaded the large clip and it plays fine with the free player.

  9. In truth, a teaser by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is actually what the movie industry calls a 'teaser'. In todays movie industry, a trailer is the Cliff Notes version of the movie.

    This teaser, on the other hand, is a series of snapshots of different scenes where some fx has been completed. It requires no music, editing, and is basically the cheapest, fastest thing Lucasfilm can put out at this point.

    1. Re:In truth, a teaser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was about to point out the same thing. Teasers do just that, tease. A trailer usually has some narrator saying something along the lines of "A place where $story. In a time of s/war/peace/etc/." The other thing about teasers is sometimes, the scenes shown, are cut from the actually movie. In some cases (i.e., Star Trek movies), footage is shown from previous movies because they lack of footage and effects.

    2. Re:In truth, a teaser by cvd6262 · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is actually what the movie industry calls a 'teaser'.

      Agreed.

      The video file is 1:07 long, but after I cut out the Fox and Lucasfilm titles, and the end Star Wars logo, and then removed all of the blank screen, I was left with (I kid you not) 25 seconds of video.

      Here are the files:

      The whole 640 trailer

      The one I edited

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    3. Re:In truth, a teaser by ipxodi · · Score: 1

      >>In truth, a teaser
      How about In truth, the crappiest trailer ever made?. Christ, they could've made a more effective trailer out of scraps of the 4 existing movies.
      Sheesh, Lucas -- don't strain yourself......

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    4. Re:In truth, a teaser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU ar e a BAD MAN!!

    5. Re:In truth, a teaser by Peter+Dyck · · Score: 1
      some narrator saying something

      Ever noticed that the narrator guy sounds the same in every trailer?

      I wonder if there's some kind of a MPAA approved trailer narrator school out there. Something like Microsoft's MCSA program.

    6. Re:In truth, a teaser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, since you're editing the file anyway, is there any way you can save it in an MPEG format for the non-Quicktime world?

    7. Re:In truth, a teaser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've actually wondered the same thing.. and the rare few times you run into a movie that doesn't sound like 'that guy,' it freaks you out! It's strange because movies on all ends of the spectrum have the samn damn guy, or at least a group of people that sound the same.

      I'd like to see his picture, and match the voice with the face. Ah well.

    8. Re:In truth, a teaser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I mirrored your file (hasn't seen it, don't know if defect or something like that). It's here:



      http://www.fys.ku.dk/~soren/e2/epII_Long.mov

      Enjoy!?!

    9. Re:In truth, a teaser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every now and then they have a feature on "The Narrator Guy" on 20/20 or whatever. Suffice it to say, he does quite well for himself.

    10. Re:In truth, a teaser by Alsee · · Score: 1

      Doh!

      You only mirrored the long version which was itself a mirror.
      I want the new short version with the 63% worth of dead space removed.

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    11. Re:In truth, a teaser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the mirror. Getting that nasty "you need Quicktime Pro" crap from Apple is no fun.

  10. They Know! by under_score · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its disgusting how well they know how to get me. That teaser rips through my consciousness and grabs hold of my emotions instantly. I grew up with Star Wars. "A New Hope" came out when I was 5 - my dad took me to it. I'm not a huge raving fan, but the trailer gets me. Two things in particular: the breathing (!) scours my emotional memories, and the shot of Anakin and Amidala by the dome house brings up founts of anticipated grief!

    ARG!!!

    I hope that the story isn't ruined. Lucas came close with Ep. I. Please.

    1. Re:They Know! by zeus_tfc · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and the shot of Anakin and Amidala by the dome house brings up founts of anticipated grief!

      ANAKIN!! DON'T!! She's you SIST...
      Doh! Sorry, wrong movie.

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    2. Re:They Know! by pedaws · · Score: 1

      Remember, there WAS a "wuv" story in EPs IV, V & VI...Anakin doesn't seem as smooth (or funny) as Han Solo, but doesn't the Dark Lord of the Sith deserve a little piece, too? (he probably won't get much REAL luvin after he turns)

      Luke and Leia have to come from SOMEWHERE, right?

    3. Re:They Know! by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      Um, if Natalie Portman were *my* sister....

      Max

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  11. Direct link to the file by BoyPlankton · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can download it from here: http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/img/sw_ctp _320.mov

    Should be a link to the medium sized file. The large one requires QuickTime pro.

    1. Re:Direct link to the file by CamelTrader · · Score: 1

      this link be dead. Dunno if they cut it off when slashdot saw it or what. But its now a denied referral.

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    2. Re:Direct link to the file by BoyPlankton · · Score: 1

      Grrr ... worked for me this morning. Looks like they're checking the referral link to make sure that you are coming from apple of lucasfilm's sites to the trailer.

    3. Re:Direct link to the file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even when it "worked" it only downloaded a 9 KB file for me (with wget). I think "ctp" in the name stands for "control panel" or the like - thus it is not the movie itself. I've had similar problems with other Quicktime trailers (e.g. Monsters, Inc.) - anyone know how to get the actual .mov file for these (Or is streaming the only option?)

    4. Re:Direct link to the file by yawnmoth · · Score: 1

      a more direct link would be http://http.eds-us871.storage.akadns.net/6462/prod uction/ep2/breathing/media/promo/ep2_breathing_m64 0.mov , but i guess that the 64k file that the link you gave points at has some sort of authentication routines so it can access that other link... maybe...

    5. Re:Direct link to the file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do people use quicktime.

      Proprietary non-portable bullshit.

    6. Re:Direct link to the file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use quicktime because (a) it works well on my mac, (b) i like it, and (c) i don't give a fuck if it's proprietary or not - it affects me in to way whatsoever.

    7. Re:Direct link to the file by tighe · · Score: 1

      All that you need to do is to right click on the movie and then choose the "Plug-in Settings" and then check "Save movies in disk cache". That will dump them into your browsers cache directory. I use this to keep a copy of trailers that I like.

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    8. Re:Direct link to the file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People use QuickTime because it's got the best quality versus bandwidth ratio in the business.

      The alternatives are:
      1) Giganto mpeg2 files
      2) Proprietary, non-portable stuff from Microsoft, hacked or not.
      3) Beta quality open source codecs with no broad userbase.

    9. Re:Direct link to the file by Spencerian · · Score: 1

      What the AC said.

      QuickTime was the only way to see the Episode I trailers because it was the only video format with good quality that would work reliably on ALL computers.

      Too bad that Apple has decided to get greedy to get people to buy QuickTime Pro, however. Unless you're going to edit movies and sounds, you don't need it.

      Next time someone says that Macs or their technology are proprietary, I'll ask them to install a retail copy of Windows NT on an IBM ThinkPad without it exploding...

      Come to think of it, try installing Windows on anything except a homebrew PC without exploding (you or the computer)

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    10. Re:Direct link to the file by spoco2 · · Score: 1

      No, that doesn't work anymore, not since QT5. If you hunt around your computer you'll find a file which you can tell is the movie due to the date created and the size, but it's not a simple case anymore to just copy it to whereever you want, as it's not just a renamed QT file.

      Bastards... why don't they want us rewatching their ADS for god sake? Surely the more exposure the better for them?

  12. Tyr this URL. by Andreas(R) · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Have you tested this URL:
    http://www.apple.com/trailers/
    I think it's great!

  13. Use the Crossoverplugin to play Quicktime w. Linux by tarkin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Use this Crossover plugin from Codeweavers to play the Quicktime movies under Linux ! It uses wine and works great under Mozilla / Galeon / Netscape.

    I just saw the trailer with it ... yowza ;-)

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  14. I, for one, do not want to see it! by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Flamebait
    I want to go into the theater without any ideas what I'm going to see. Trailers, being the spoilers that they often are, often drive me from seeing a film because I can figure out the story, which is often "attitude" + "fireballs" + "stupid plot", etc.

    Granted this is a Star Wars movie, which I'm required by the Geek Code to see, so I'll go see it when it comes out. Until then it'll be stepping through a mine field of films trying to avoid seeing it. Thanks for the warning about it preceeding Monsters, Inc.

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    1. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hate to spoil it for you but Anakin becomes Darth Vader, his son is Luke. Luke and Vader have a fight and afterwards Vader kill the emperor to save his Luke.

    2. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by FortKnox · · Score: 1

      Avoid Harry Potter, cause it'll have a longer trailer attached to it (or just go to movies 15 minutes late and miss all the trailers).

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    3. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      Ohhhh, NOOOooooooooo! Dang! I was hoping he'd forget about Episodes IV-VI and, in Hollywood tradition, go in a completely different direction than the commonly known end of the book or previous film...

      "No, you're not my father!"
      "Yeth, but I didn't turn to the dark thide of the forth, I became and Igor inthtead. After my hand wath cut of I thewed it back on, thee?"

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    4. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by ekrout · · Score: 2

      CmdrTaco (from `cmdrtaco.net'): "I plan to complain on Slashdot that Disney, AOL-TW, and Fox -- coincidentally the companies who will be making money off Monsters, Inc., Harry Potter, and Star Wars Episode II, respectively -- are using their vast monetary resources to purchase laws in the United States Congress. The irony of blasting these movie studios repeatedly on my website and then in the same breath praising and promoting their movies is apparently totally lost on me."

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    5. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by SpryGuy · · Score: 1

      I went to a movie 15 minutes late once, and all I missed were the ads. I still got to sit through another 15 minutes of trailers. It was really annoying.

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    6. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      This worked to my advantage on Saturday. I went to see K-Pax, which started at 4:45. Got ticket at 4:35 and then stood in line for popcorn for the next 25 minutes. Still saw one trailer before the feature began. Oddly, theaters make most of their profit on popcorn, candy and soda sales, which are high profit-margin items, yet they had one girl, with purple hair, meticulously serving a line of ~30 people. An apparent manager helped from time to time, but several people were too frustrated to wait and stepped out of line. I'd like to point out that I go, not just to see the film, but for the whole viewing experience. Which includes carrying in my own salt, the really fine stuff, since most local theaters have taken to using plastic restaurant table salt shakers (ugh!) If I'm going to fork over $15+ to see a movie, I'm going to enjoy it, dammit! (c=

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    7. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by Paelon · · Score: 1

      Good luck. I avoided all the trailers for Ep 1. Unfortunately I think I missed the best part of Ep 1, which would be seeing the trailer. First and last time I try to avoid trailers. :)

    8. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by mgblst · · Score: 1

      and thats not all.... After seeing "The Empire Strikes Back", some people got the idea that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's real father. Although "Makin' Wookie" doesn't clear this up, it does reveal how an ancestor of Princess Leia befriends Yoda, who organizes the Jedi Knights, comprised of Darth Vader (then a young idealist in love with Lando Calrissian's great-aunt) and Obi-Wan Kenobi, who defend the Wookies when their home, the planet Kazhyyyk, is overrun by droids (film No. 11, "Cut and Droid") for more... http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/starwars/films/madmag. txt

    9. Re:I, for one, do not want to see it! by whopis · · Score: 1

      Man... that brought back memories..

      As I was reading your post it sounded strangely familiar, but I couldn't place it for a moment. I've probably not read that for almost twenty years...

      Thanks for making me laugh

  15. money talks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Although it is available on Apple's site you must BUY Quicktime PRO 5 to view the large version of the trailer ... this is a first.

    Is a 30 second trailer worth $28 ????

    1. Re:money talks by Schnapple · · Score: 1
      All the more ironic considering that you have to have it to view the DVD-only trailer being released Thursday, and the DVD doesn't even cost $30

      Plus Mac users can't play the DVD-ROM content and therefore can't see the Nov. 8 trailer, even though QuickTime is a Mac-borne concept.

  16. Teaser? by Knunov · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe I've become numb to such teasing in my old age, but the trailer did nothing to whet my appetite.

    The least they could have done was included a cutaway shot of Natalie's robe falling to the floor, just before her bare, firm buttocks appeared.

    I just teased myself into petrification. I'll be back in a few minutes.

    Knunov

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    1. Re:Teaser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, a post that had Natalie Portman, naked, and petrified in it.. and it got a 5!

    2. Re:Teaser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I predict a huge increase in the Natalie Portman fanboy posts. Where are you osm?

    3. Re:Teaser? by Peale · · Score: 1

      Geeze, I had forgotten all about the 'Naked & Petrified' posts. Has it's time come again?

  17. Looks alot like the 'fan' trailer... by Bonker · · Score: 2

    ... that got so much interest a while back. I remember reading something that the producer of that trailer said... that mostly he just looked for various 'head turn' shots, and incorporated them into his trailer.

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  18. Great news. by Anton+Anatopopov · · Score: 1
    How long can it be before someone gets this on DIVX ? I cannot wait. In my opinion, this will be the 'make or break' movie for the whole star wars franchise.

    I gave phantom menace the benefit of the doubt, but I will be reading the reviews of 'clones' very carefully before parting with my $$s.

    I may go and see 'harry potter' instead.

    1. Re:Great news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "make or break?" Wait a minute - Ep 4-6 are already among the most famous and largest grossing movies ever. This additional saga of 3 movies may live or die on its own steam, but the legend of the STAR WARS trilogy is undisputable, and can't be dragged down by recent additions to the series.

      +Kinnear

  19. Teaser? by ruiner13 · · Score: 1

    Let's hope the title "Attack of the Clones" is just a teaser as well as this clip. That is the worst thing Lucas has done since creating Jar Jar Binks (whom i've heard is on the Emperial Council!). I may wait for the video on this one... but we'll see. Episode 1 was very disappointing, seemingly focused on a pod race and a tribe of moronic underwater creatures.

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  20. Reverse expectations? by cvd6262 · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    I heard a lot of people whine that one reason Episode I was such a disappointment was that the trailer rocked.

    I guess Lucas figured out that he could make a less-than-impressive trailer so people wouldn't be so disappointed.

    PS - I don't think I saw this much face-sucking in the other 4 movies combined.

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    1. Re:Reverse expectations? by ASCIIMan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You forget the incestual face-sucking from the original trilogy.

    2. Re:Reverse expectations? by Paelon · · Score: 1

      I didn't see the Episode 1 trailer until after I saw the movie. I didn't want the trailer to ruin anything for me; the movie still sucked hard. :)

    3. Re:Reverse expectations? by earthpig · · Score: 1

      actually, episode 1 sucked because it, well. . . , just sucked !

    4. Re:Reverse expectations? by Yet+Another+Smith · · Score: 2

      Yeah, over-hyping a mediocre movie is a recipe for hatred, a lesson that Waterworld illustrated perfectly.

      But honestly, I thought Jedi sucked, and I hadn't seen any trailers, mostly because the plot wasn't as strong, and the ewoks were lame. I'd have thought it was fine, but it was being compared to the first two. Although the ewoks really were the poisoned pill.

      EP1 had the same problem. I wouldn't have liked it if it had been the first movie, and I'd never have seen the trailer. It was devoid of ideas and full of empty gimmicks. Marketing is a distant second to craft.

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    5. Re:Reverse expectations? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      > EP1 had the same problem. I wouldn't have liked it if it had been the first movie, and I'd never have seen the trailer. It was devoid of ideas and full of empty gimmicks. Marketing is a distant second to craft.
      Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wicker-work picnic baskets. Imagination without skill gives us modern art. (Tom Stoppard)
      And sequels and prequels, I might add.

      On an almost related note, Salon is currently an article about the so-called Phantom Edit of E1.
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  21. Heavy Vader breathing was interesting... by infinite9 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    If I got to bang natalie, I'd be breathing heavily also.

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  22. New Hope, ESB, RotJ trailers by KingJawa · · Score: 1

    Being born in 1977, I only saw Jedi in theaters, and am too young to have seen the New Hope and Empire trailers.

    As luck (and eBay) would have it, I purchased a copy of the Star Wars Holiday Special (it is -hideous-). Appended to the end were a lot of trailers... and the EpII trailer (Vaderbreath) is a lot like one of the Empire ones.

    Empire is my favorite one of them all, so, keep hope alive.

    1. Re:New Hope, ESB, RotJ trailers by Reductionist · · Score: 1

      Oh yes.. The infamous Star Wars holiday special that George Lucas wishes would go away.

      I saw it the first time around in '78. I was 9 years old at the time, so I don't really remember much. Until recently I wasn't sure if it was real or just some horrible bad dream from my childhood. Nevertheless it is real and Salon did a piece on it about a year ago.

      http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2000/12/05/s ta r_wars_tv/index.html

  23. boring? pointless? what? by rootofevil · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Who says its boring?!

    NATALIE PORTMAN MAKEOUT SCENE.

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  24. From a Star Wars Universe Point of View by _J_ · · Score: 5, Interesting


    The Phantom Premise caused me concern in that I found it hard to reconcile what I was seeing with what I understood the SW universe to be.

    The clips in the Episode II trailer (send in the clones for anyone who remembers an RPG game called Paranoia) make me think that Lucas could bring the story back.

    Maybe it's just wistful thinking, but scenes of Ewan McGregor with a beard looking older and wiser and Hayden Christianson - who won't be shouting "Yippeee" - looking to do a servicable job as Anakin make me think that Lucas could get it right this time. And finally to see the explanation of the Clone Wars. Children growing into Storm Troopers. Finally we will see how Palpatine seized power.

    I had high hopes for the first one too, I hope I won't be disappointed again.

    IMHO, as per,
    J:)

    1. Re:From a Star Wars Universe Point of View by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who f'ing cares?

      This Ed Wood titled piece of crap is going to totally sUx0r- and we all know it.

      Gee, maybe we'll get some more LAME DRAG RACES, goofy KID-FRIENDLY ALIENS that should all be sent to the camps with the EWOKS, chase scenes with really big fish in which the SAME GODDAMNED NEAR-MISS OCCURS THREE TIMES IN A ROW, more INANE JAR JAR(ack), low-level shibboleths about symboisis as a SOP TO PC, and some love story that would be constitute statuatory rape in all states save for west virginia and delaware. I like how Lucas and Co. relased the rumors last week about Natalie Portman appearing partially nude in this episode- the only way he's going to get geeks back onboard the Star Wars bandwagon after The Phantom Plot. Ooh, meesa hornay.

      Will more Siths drive around on their gay Darth Maul scooters? Will that kid's acting convey any emotion other than 'yippee?' Will Natalie Portman's acting have matured beyond her three emotions (stoic, worried, and happy)?

      WILL WARFARE BE SANITIZED, PC, and BLOODLESS? Will the only things that die in battle be asinine robots that say, "roger, roger?"

      And are unlucky audiences going to get treated to more REALLY FAKE LOOKING COMPUTER GENERATED GRAPHICS?

    2. Re:From a Star Wars Universe Point of View by MindStalker · · Score: 3, Funny

      I could be wrong. But did you just insult Ed Wood??!! *Slaps you with a large trout*

    3. Re:From a Star Wars Universe Point of View by Happy+Monkey · · Score: 1

      Ed himself may be good, but any other person's films are bad if they can be compared to his.

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    4. Re:From a Star Wars Universe Point of View by quecojones · · Score: 1

      Will more Siths drive around on their gay Darth Maul scooters?

      Correction. It's Shits and not Siths.

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  25. mirrors anyone? by dood · · Score: 1

    Arg.. all sites are *hosed*. Can anyone mirror this?

    1. Re:mirrors anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/img/sw_ctp _320.mov

      just save target and dl it from that. :)

  26. Damn! There's Jar-Jar by cvd6262 · · Score: 2, Flamebait

    About half way through, there's a shot of a rather pensive Mace Windu, with Yoda behind him facing the other way.

    Yoda is looking at an approaching group. Among them are the Queen (Natalie Portman!), and Jar-Jar Binks.

    I think I'll wait for the DVD.

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    1. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 1

      Lucas was interviewed in the UK press over the weekend. He said he doesnt have time to read what 10,000 people think of his movies. I got the impression he couldnt care less - and who can blame him?
      I got the impression that he`s an integral part of the plot. Perhaps Lucas personally really likes the character, and doesnt realize he`s so despised. Or perhaps he really doesnt care.
      He also said he sees the DVD as what he really wanted to do in the first place, before it was cut/changed for the distributors, and that DVDs will be seen as the definitive `directors cut` versions, and the cinema/tv versions as merely commercials for them.

    2. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by Jboy_24 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I made the move to Silicon Valley and ran into a friend here. We were comparing notes on who from our school in Vancouver (ECIAD) made it down. We started talking about one guy who was a great animator and got a job at I.L.M.! Instantly we felt envious.

      Turns out he has to animate Jar Jar ....

      Poor, poor guy.... I feel sooo sorry for him.

    3. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by NutscrapeSucks · · Score: 2

      Lucas sits on a farm up in Marin county and has surround himself with yes-man nerds that do nothing but kiss his ass all day so that they can play with the latest Avid and ProTools or whatever.

      He's got no Irving Kirshner Hollywood Battleaxe around to tell him that his ideas are cornball (and borderline racist) and that his plots make no sense. So, he does whatever he wants to, his nerd henchmen think his ideas are great because they involve lots of computers. The result is big suckbomb movies that appeal to neither kids, nor the Comic Book Guys who still idolize the movies they saw as childern, nor the broader audience as a whole.

      That being said, JarJar wasn't the worst idea dramatically. He played the role of C3P0 in the originals -- to communicate what was going on to the kids in the audience in simple terms. The problem was that he was massively overplayed and, worse, 3CP0 was still in the movie, and even worse (from Lucas' wallet's perspective), Darth Maul got about 30 seconds of screen time.

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    4. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by selectspec · · Score: 2

      What a crock of sh$t. Lucas paid for the Episode I film and could have cut it any damn way he wanted. This DVD - director's cut - is just a bunch of marketeering BS to get you to buy the DVD even though you thought the film version was tripe bathos.

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    5. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by revscat · · Score: 2

      I saw a news segment a while ago about the guys (yes, all men) in NYC who's job is to go check out the huge freaking sewers that come out of the Manhattan whenever they get clogged, pipes that are big enough to stand in full of human excrement. Yes, it is as nasty as it sounds. Their job is to be walking fecal decompactors.

      I'd rather be one of those guys than your buddy who is animating Jar-Jar. At least then I wouldn't be embarrased about my job.

    6. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying Episode I didn't appeal to kids or Comic Book Guys? What is it like in your parallel universe, anyway?

    7. Re:Damn! There's Jar-Jar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boxoffice and merchandising were nowhere near expected, and that's what counts.

  27. A new hope and meaning to... by GISboy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "Trailer Trash" which is what non Mac OS/QT Pro users must be named.

    (I'm not trolling or posting flamebait, people, I made that oddball connection and am still grinning. I hope someone sees the humor in it too).

    There is actuall a way to save the trailer even if the ability is disabled...I'll see what I can do about making it into a DivX (now that OS X.1 has ffmpeg to watch DivX's).

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  28. ASCIIvision? by Calle+Ballz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could someone make a sort of quick & dirty java ASCII knockoff of this trailer? I'm at work right now and I don't have the administrative privelages to install the software to view this, so I have to wait until I get home, but that is in 6 hours and I don't know if I can wait that long!!!

    *desperately awaiting new star wars footage*

    1. Re:ASCIIvision? by acroyear · · Score: 3, Interesting

      actually, i want the south park version...the south park edition of the Phantom Menace trailer is still one of the funniest 'net downloads i've got.

      Though Troops has its moments, too...

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    2. Re:ASCIIvision? by interiot · · Score: 2

      I'm at work too, but if someone can convert it to mpeg1, this will convert it from mpeg1 to ascii.

    3. Re:ASCIIvision? by ShelbyCobra · · Score: 1

      You tease us by mentioning parody trailers, and then do not give locations...

      Where are these downloads that you speak of?

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    4. Re:ASCIIvision? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Where are these downloads of which you speak."

      Moron.

    5. Re:ASCIIvision? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got an internet. Learn how to use it.

    6. Re:ASCIIvision? by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1

      Google is your friend...

      Troops

      It's rather good :-)

    7. Re:ASCIIvision? by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Or maybe just an animated .gif file... I always thought mpeg was a scam, come on the compression cant the that much better?

  29. Every saga has a new beginning... by akiaki007 · · Score: 1

    OK, those 3 lines in the trailer from the first one were good...here are the ones from this one...

    Every general leads in battle...
    (fade out to show Obi-Won)
    Every queen discovers her destiny...
    (fade out to show portman)
    Every boy becomes a man...
    (fade out to show a very yound canadian...)

    OK, now that last line makes me crack up...This is funny stuff

    The first teaser trailer made me want to watch I, that and the anticipation. Now that I've see I, this teaser sucks. I hope that the real trailer/movie is better. And of course I'm still going to see it on opening night...it is Star Wars after all.

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    1. Re:Every saga has a new beginning... by EpsCylonB · · Score: 1

      That is the fan made trailer. The real trailer doesn't have writing or sound (apart from vader breathing).

    2. Re:Every saga has a new beginning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That trailer you're talking about is a fake. This one has no words in it...

    3. Re:Every saga has a new beginning... by Pooua · · Score: 1
      The first teaser trailer made me want to watch I


      The trailer you mention should have made you want to watch II, because the trailer lines you cited were from the fan trailer made for II. I guess I should also point out that the person who made the fan trailer has no way of knowing what's in Episode II; he just pulled together a bunch of stuff. The scene with the mob running with lightsabers is a doctored scene from "Braveheart."

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  30. Dark Horizons has links to .mpg versions by iainl · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those either on Linux and unable to, or just hate Quicktime for some reason, Dark Horizons has links to these four mirror sites in .mpg format. Note that these seem pretty hosed as well though...

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    1. Re:Dark Horizons has links to .mpg versions by gotroot801 · · Score: 1

      The MPEGs from theforce.ca seem to be gone - now it's replaced with links to the MOV files.

    2. Re:Dark Horizons has links to .mpg versions by ksheff · · Score: 2

      The quicktime movies work just fine on linux with the CodeWeavers CrossOver plugin. I view movie trailers on Apple's site all the time from within Galeon, Mozilla, or Netscape.

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  31. No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by Nos. · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Went to see Monsters Inc. this weekend at a local Famous Players theatre. There was a note up at the ticket counter saying there would be no refunds to tickets purchased for Monsters Inc because of the SW Ep2 Trailer.

    1. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by Pope · · Score: 1
      They did the exact same thing at Cineplex Odeon theatres for the Episode I trailer attached to "Wing Commander."

      At least "Monsters, Inc." is a movie I want to see!

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    2. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by scribblej · · Score: 1
      I saw it this weekend at 600 N. Michigan (One of Chicago's trendy downtown theatres... can't see how it's any different from any other theatre -- oh,y es, location counts when you're watching afilm, I guess). Anyhow, I did notice a sign that said "NO REFUNDS FOR MONSTERS INC" and it scared me; I thought "Is the movie THAT BAD?" But not that I read your post, it all makes sense.


      KITTY!!!

    3. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by tswinzig · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      You can pick your friends,and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

      In that same vein, George Carlin once said that on TV, "you can say you pricked your finger, but you can't say you fingered your prick!"

      So there.

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    4. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      A friend of mine told me that he went to one of the very early screenings of The Matrix, and there were a whole slew of Star Wars freaks who watch the Ep1 trailer and then left.

      Little did they realize that they left a movie that was, oh, 10 times better?

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    5. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      I would be that Mr. Carlin never had access to usenet...it sounds like something that you could probably find in some of the newsgroups :)

    6. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by bobgoatcheese · · Score: 1

      I personally work at a local movie theatre and was told a week ago not to give refunds to people watching Monters Inc. only to view the Episode 2 trailer. Now if only we had a contingency plan for the droves of people who wanted a refund for The One......

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    7. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by milkme123 · · Score: 1

      The episode 1 trailer was not attached to The Matrix. Especially not any early screening of it.

    8. Re:No Refunds at Monsters Inc. by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      Don't know if these google group links will work for you, but I found at least two people talking about it...

      Number 1

      Number 2

      If they don't go through, try searching for "matrix saw episode 1 trailer". Why were you so sure that it wasn't shown with The Matrix?

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  32. Re: QuickTime *5*, mind you... by zaren · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's also the fact that QuickTime 5 is needed to view any of these trailers/teasers. Something of a pain, since I can't upgrade past QT4 on this locked-down-piece-of-an-NT-box they gave me at work...

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  33. Also available to FilPile Members... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup. You can find it on the Movie Pile at File Pile.

    I'm AC'd because, the first rule of File Pile is NOT to talk about File Pile. (See FilePile for more details on this.)

    1. Re:Also available to FilPile Members... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will somebody please mirror this mpeg for God's sake??? FilePile won't take anymore new registrations. This is worse than blue nutz.

    2. Re:Also available to FilPile Members... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROTFLMAO. Well so much for that site now, huh?

    3. Re:Also available to FilPile Members... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did I forget to stress that it is available to FilePile MEMBERS?

    4. Re:Also available to FilPile Members... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did I forget to stress that you are a douchebag?

    5. Re:Also available to FilPile Members... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It would have been nice if you had stressed that if you were not a member, they WON'T LET YOU BECOME ONE.


      Maybe instead of being a corn-cob you could mirror the damn file?

    6. Re:Also available to FilPile Members... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you tried offering a donation? Sure, they'll letcha become a member. Just ask really nicely and offer a few cool pics.

  34. Re:SORRY! by Andreas(R) · · Score: 1

    But the site is in .ASP
    Sorry, my Mandrake doesn't like that any better...

  35. Re:SORRY - Yes I am indeed! by iainl · · Score: 1

    Not only is one of them in .asp, but the others are either slashdotted or have replaced them with links to the quicktime version. Sorry everyone, Apple have beaten be to it.

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  36. NOW YOUVE DONE IT!!! by mastixxz · · Score: 1

    After this post so many users tried to access the site that it's down. Oh man!!!

  37. Looks like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like we'll get to see some Boba Fett action as well

    1. Re:Looks like... by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1

      I think you mean Jango :-)

    2. Re:Looks like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you'll get Boba and Jango Fett...although I don't know who Jango is.

  38. Woohoo! by xonker · · Score: 1

    Note that Jar-Jar does not appear in the trailer... maybe Lucas is taking the criticism seriously. :)

    1. Re:Woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Jar Jar is in the trailer. Look closely behind Mace Windu...

    2. Re:Woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that was Yoda immediately to his left. Was Binks also there?

    3. Re:Woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not necessarily - I looked at it closely too. It could just be a regular gungan.(hopefully)

  39. wow by 2MuchC0ffeeMan · · Score: 1

    i have one good reason NOT to see episode 2...

    episode 1...

    and, i thought the first one was hyped up enough? what the hell is this?

    get over it, it's a horrible trailor anyway.

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  40. Re:membership required... go here RE: SCREWY MODS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup. I just had a post myself. Here are the ratings so far:

    Moderation Totals: Insightful=1, Interesting=1, Informative=1, Overrated=2, Underrated=1, Total=6.

    I was insightful, interesting, overrated, overrated again, then underrated, and finally informative.

  41. Quicktime? by Master+Of+Ninja · · Score: 0

    Does anybody know of a way to get these to a none quicktime format? I resisted from using quicktime recently as its a bit bloated, I hate the skins and that annoying "upgrade to quicktime pro" message that always seems to start.

    It's a shame as I liked the quicktime technology but the actual software seems to have been filled with useless features. If anybody has a codec for this to work under windows media player (yep a win2k box) please post it.

  42. Quicktime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You need be a starwars.com member to watch it and must have installed the Quicktime plugin though.

    Or you can grab the nine MB mpeg off gnutella...

  43. For those in Australia... by little_fluffy_clouds · · Score: 1

    Unless you are in possession of great qualities of bandwidth, you only just saw the Episode I trailer on the big screen (like me, during "The Man Who Sued God" which I really did enjoy, pity it won't get an international audience).

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  44. that was a slideshow, NOT a trailer by mozkill · · Score: 0, Troll

    i went to see Monsters, Inc. this weekend, and I saw the disappointing trailer. It was a slideshow, NOT a trailer. NOT NOT NOT NOT !!!!

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    1. Re:that was a slideshow, NOT a trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a teaser, not a trailer. The trailer is supposed to come out with Harry Potter.

    2. Re:that was a slideshow, NOT a trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to see a real slideshow, check out the "Choices" trailer on the Star Wars DVD site. *That's* a slideshow.

  45. Morpheus/Kaaza... by billnapier · · Score: 1

    As usual, when all the mirrors are swamped: find it on P2P.

    1. Re:Morpheus/Kaaza... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grokster is a much better client for the KaZaA/Morpheus/Whatever-the-big-title-for-the-netw ork-these-clients-use-is network.

      It has less ads (that is easily blocked with hosts) and unlikes KaZaA, no spyware.

  46. Re: QuickTime *5*, mind you... PRO by Grizelmac · · Score: 0

    This is the PAID version as well, so even if you have QT 5, like I do, you still can't see it.

    I'm pretty impressed that that /. brought down the starwars.com site.

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  47. Apple.com slashdotted again by iainl · · Score: 1

    Whatever happened to all the Apple trailers being hosted by Akamai? When they were, I never had this kind of hassle accessing things, even when the _huge_ Episode 1 trailers were up at 640. Apple really shouldn't have stopped using them.

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    1. Re:Apple.com slashdotted again by hearingaid · · Score: 2

      Apple hasn't stopped using Akamai. Go to the Apple homepage, all the images are on Akamai.

      My guess is that the Akamai charge was a little too much for Apple to absorb, given that many of these trailers are remarkably large.

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  48. Lame. by UUDDLRLRBASTRT · · Score: 0

    You have to be a member to watch a commercial (the trailer) so that you'll go buy their product (the movie). That is beyond lame.

  49. Star Wars II / QuickTime / Crossover plug-in by peel · · Score: 2, Informative
    I just got done watching this trailer on my linux box. Yes it was from the Star Wars site and in QuickTime. So everyone who keeps complaining about not being able to view QT on linux.. buck up and get the crossover plug-in from codeweavers, and stop complaining. I do not work for them nor do I have any affiliation with them but I work on macs everyday at work and quicktime is a part of my life. Lack of QuickTime has always been my biggest gripe about Linux. But now it is no longer. That's just my two cents.

    go get crossover plug-in, watch quicktime on linux, stop complaining, smile.

    computers never mkae mistooks. --Tandy T1000

    1. Re:Star Wars II / QuickTime / Crossover plug-in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      of course, one very valid answer would be:
      "Quicktime sucks ass, why bother?"

  50. There is no New Hope by Pope · · Score: 2, Interesting

    AFAIC, there is no movie called "A New Hope."
    It's "Star Wars," no extra anything. Lucas added that only after Empire came out to make it look more like a continuing series than a one-shot deal that hit paydirt.
    He said at the time that it cost $15 million to make, and expected and get about $25 at the box office, if he was lucky. He got *real* lucky. :)

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    1. Re:There is no New Hope by arkanes · · Score: 1

      The title on the box is Star Wars (no subtitle). However, in the opening text, it clearly says "Episode IV: A New Hope".
      That is all.

    2. Re:There is no New Hope by T.+Will+S.+Idea · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At the time that Star Wars was released it was widely known that this was the 4th in a series of nine stories. There was a lot of buzz about it because the idea of a prequel was strange to people at the time. I think that "A New Hope" was not part of the title on the movie posters, but I think that it appeared at the head of scrolling text that begins the movie.

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    3. Re:There is no New Hope by ahde · · Score: 1

      I remember arguing vehemently as a kid that there were 9 star wars books out there and eventually they'd all become movies. I had a habit in those days of saying "I bet you a million dollars..." whatever. After seeing the Phantom Menace, I realized that I owe some people a lot of money.

    4. Re:There is no New Hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was added for the re-release right before Empire. The original run was not called "A New Hope" or "Episode IV" (and the scrolling text was significantly more simplistic).

    5. Re:There is no New Hope by blazer1024 · · Score: 1

      I remember arguing this same thing. Who fed us this kinda crap, anyway?

    6. Re:There is no New Hope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If I remember correctly, it was the magazine Starlog. I still remember the fresh crispness of issue #7 at the Rexall drugstore. It had the cool picture of an X-wing firing lasers on the cover. There was an article with a preliminary sketch (which showed that even the stormtroopers had lightsabers!)

      Somewhere in all the interview, it was mentioned that this was the first movie in the middle trilogy of a trilogy of movies. "NINE!", gasped my feverish junior high brain. "Nine science fiction movies with all these cool gadgets and effects! What did I do to live in such a wonderful time?", I wondered.

      I watched "Star Wars" about 30 times at the theater. (This was back in the day, before VCRs. I paid for each of those tickets!). I was one of the annoying kids who had the dialog memorized. If I had listened to my Dad, I could've put that money into Apple stock in 1977 and been a millionare today. Sorry Dad, you were right.

      Yes. The "Episode IV: A NEW HOPE" line was back-edited into the movie. It definitely was not there in the original release. I remember the first time I saw that line. It stood out like a sore thumb.

      Anonymous Kev
      Proudly posting as AC since 1997

  51. In a word... by SaDan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    No.

  52. That's a good approach: by mblase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...not *all* trailers spoil the entire plot for a movie. But some do. And in my experience, the ones that do that do so because they had to scrounge the entire film in order to find enough interesting, amazing, or funny bits to make a trailer. Once you've seen the trailer, you've seen all the bits worth watching. (Commercials for sitcoms work much the same way.)

    Case in point: Disney threw in a trailer for their theatrical sequel to "Peter Pan," cleverly entitled "Return to Neverland." It involves Wendy's daughter and the entire Neverland cast of the original movie, and apparently some Wacky Adventures. Based on that (and, admittedly, my previous experience with non-Pixar Disney sequels), I now know everything I need to know about this movie. My wife and daughter can go see it themselves in February; I know for a fact I won't be missing anything.

    If they don't provide an entire plot to you, then you're probably safe going to see it. There will be enough surprises to make it worth your $7.50. Otherwise, take a pass and wait for the Rotten Tomatoes rating to come in.

    1. Re:That's a good approach: by RAVasquez · · Score: 1

      "Return to Neverland" sounds like one of Disney's interminable made-for-video sequels, in which the hero and heroine from the first movie get married and their adorable offspring gets to participate in the Wacky Adventures. The premise never varies; I wonder if Disney's getting a government grant to promote nuclear families for cartoon characters.

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    2. Re:That's a good approach: by Peale · · Score: 1

      I can appreciate previews ruining the plot to movies.

      Anyone see The Bone Collector? With Denzel Washington & Angelina Jolie? I hadn't seen this, and rented it on DVD. Usually the first thing I do is check out some of the extras. I don't go deeply into the disk b/c of the risk of spoiler content. So, I usually watch the trailer, b/c they're not going to have spoiler info in there, right?

      Wrong; the killer starts spouting off, just a few seconds into the preview. He's got an extremely distinctive voice, so immediately, it's quite apparent who's who. I spent the rest of the film cursing.

    3. Re:That's a good approach: by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      I wonder if Disney's getting a government grant to promote nuclear families for cartoon characters.

      Well, it would be about time, no? After all these decades of three ducklings; Huey, Dewey and Louie; hanging around with their bachelor "unca" Donald, and two mice; Morty and Ferdie; hanging out with their bachelor uncle Mickey.

      Now Lucas on the other hand, has a father turn to the dark side of the force, while his erstwhile wife hides his twin children. That's a family american's can related to...

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  53. Anakin's lightsaber color changes by Scryber · · Score: 1
    The only thing I give a damn about are the saber fights, so I thought it was interesting that Anakin's saber blade is green in one scene (with Obi-Wan) and blue later (in the duel).

    I'll leave it to the die-hards to speculate what that could mean plotwise.

    1. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by macdaddy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps it's not a lightsaber at all but a Moodsaber®. It's green when he's around big, handsome and studly Obi-Wan, blue around the other guy that doesn't swing that way, and purple around the princess....

    2. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by HongPong · · Score: 2
      Perhaps it's not a lightsaber at all but a Moodsaber®. It's green when he's around big, handsome and studly Obi-Wan, blue around the other guy that doesn't swing that way, and purple around the princess....

      If that was Annakin's true nature, wouldn't the moodsaber turn purple (put on your Jerry Falwell caps everyone) around "studly Obi-Wan"?

    3. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by Happy+Monkey · · Score: 1

      It's green when he's around big, handsome and studly Obi-Wan,
      ...
      wouldn't the moodsaber turn purple ... around "studly Obi-Wan"?


      Uh-oh. You've done it now! Oh - wait. Wrong show...

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    4. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by whovian · · Score: 1

      A sign of losing his virginity?

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    5. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

      I recall from one of the earlier movies that a Jedi Knight was supposed to make his own lightsaber near the end of his apprenticeship. (That's a convenient skill. Nobody else seems to have them. So being disarmed in a remote location would be a long-term problem if you had to visit a jedi armory to rearm.)

      Perhaps the distinct color is supposed to be an artifact of the individual home-brew devices.

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    6. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...purple's the official color for engineering -- all the engineers on the titanic wore purple uniforms, and they stayed on the ship fighting to keep it afloat till the end.

      purple is also the color associated with sexual repression.

    7. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 2

      > NORTH
      Senate Antechamber

      Your lightsaber is glowing with a faint blue glow.

      > EAST
      Inner Quarters

      The emperor is here.

      Your lightsaber has begun to glow very brightly.

    8. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by smaughster · · Score: 2

      Basic idea is that the colour of a light saber is determined by the crystal that is used to focus the energy beam. You can have lightsabers with several crystals, allowing for several different colours and different settings of beam length etc.

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    9. Re:Anakin's lightsaber color changes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Naw. That's when it goes from curved to straight. Like Dilbert's tie.

  54. Re:Use the Crossoverplugin to play Quicktime w. Li by friedmud · · Score: 1

    I was just looking at this last night. Does it work as well as they say? Is the installation seamless?

    Is it worth the money? I think it might be for me (Now that I spend all of my time in linux).

    Give some details.

    Derek

  55. And the theme song is... by Kevin+S.+Van+Horn · · Score: 1

    "Send in the clones"!

    1. Re:And the theme song is... by DoomHaven · · Score: 1

      "They're...al...read...y...heeerrrrrrreeeeee...."

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    2. Re:And the theme song is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAHAHAHAHHAAHH! HAHAHHAHHAHAHAH! AhhAAHHAHAH! HAAAAHAHAHHAAHHA! Damn. Haven't heard that one before! AHAHAH! HAHAHHAHHAH!

  56. Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its too late I know, but Im really beginning to believe this prequel idea was a horribly bad one. I dont see Episode 2 being much better.

    Plot: Episode I sets up the plot for the next film, but without much conviction. How can we see Anakin freeing the slaves, with "Yippee" in our minds. They will need a heavy dose of the Jedi Mind Trick (TM) to get us to forget so much of the flaws of the previous film.

    Characters: After the 1st film, we dont have a good association with any of the characters. Anakin was a child, and we had a difficult time understanding the kid. Amidala was always shifting from Queen to friend and back, so we dont really know the real Amidala. Qui Gon is dead, Yoda and Mace were introduced to us like we've known them for ages. The only one we have the slighest insight into would be Kenobi and Binks (sad but true). As such, we really arent motivated to learn more about them.

    Lack of surprises: The first trilogy succeeded because we WANTED to know what Jabba looked like. Had to wait 3 movies to find out. 3 movies to see the evil and dreaded Emperor (minus the teaser in Empire). 3 movies to find out about Leia...3 to find out what was under the mask. Episode 1 throws it all out on the table. Midichlorians cause the Force, Emperor in-you-face, etc. I dont see the room for the great plot twists of the originals.

    Special Effects: George is hooked on 3d. And it truly sucks. The models used in the originals made it the best special effects ever, and blows away anything they can do today on computers. I dont want to go see on the big screen what Star Trek manages to do on the little screen. After Episode 1, the awe of the space adventure has been cheap-nd. And with the investment in Jar Jar, it shows no sign of going away.

    Episode 2 is as doomed to fail as was #1. It may have a more adult theme, but the "magic" of Empire will not be there. And its all because of Episode 1.

    Can 3 fix all this? Perhaps but still not likely. 3's problem will be continuity. Its clear Lucas hasnt thought his plots out, and as such by the time 3 rolls around, the continuity will be completely hosed. It will be fun to hear James Earl Jones again, but those kinds of things are the only things that will make it worth watching.

    Besides, when you know how the outcome will be, how can we be expected to side with the protagonist? Is this movie going to be about Anakin, or more about Kenobi? Ep 1 had us on Anakin's side. Somewhere in 2, we HAVE to make a switch to siding with Kenobi. This is awkward, and will lose quite a few.

    They should have kept on going after Return of the Jedi. Make the final 3 movies instead of the first 3.

    1. Re:Bad idea by bribecka · · Score: 2

      . I dont see the room for the great plot twists of the originals.

      That probably explains why you spend your days posting on slashdot as an AC while George Lucas is a multi-billionaire.

      The models used in the originals made it the best special effects ever, and blows away anything they can do today on computers.

      Please, get real. The SFX from 1977 blow away the SFX in Phantom Menace? Say what you want about Ep1, but the SFX was not one of the weak points. I guess you forgot how in the original Star Wars, a group of 3 fighters had to move absolutely in sync (ie. battle at the Death Star).

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    2. Re:Bad idea by malducin · · Score: 2

      Lack of surprises!!! Well that depends if you look out for spoilers on the Internet. I tried to stay spoler free as much as possible, and I did my "mom" test, I asked her and she didn't know anything except for what she see on the trailers. Some people have a "fast food" instant gratification mentality but there are many others wanting to be surprised. Your other points are subjective they are valid opinions, but they are not certainties. I mean have you ever played with a little brother or nephew? They talk like that aand I don't see how just saying Yipee will later prevent someone from growing up and doing stuff. As I said a valid opinion but there are others. Just let Lucas make his movie.

      yeah like the previous poster said, first check the facts before making such bold statements.

      Episode 1 was the biggest project the ILM model dept. has undertaken. There are tons of models in there, from battle tanks, spaceships, set pieces, practiacl elements and interiors. Just check out the Beginning documentary in the DVD or better yet the best source of info, Cinefex issue 78:

      Cinefex issue 78

      Too bad the official site is kinda hosed, you could check some there.

    3. Re:Bad idea by Kotukunui · · Score: 1

      They should have kept on going after Return of the Jedi. Make the final 3 movies instead of the first 3.

      I'm not so keen to see the "next 3". I mean in ROTJ, the Empire is defeated, the Rebellion triumphs and it is the beginning new era in galactic harmony yada, yada, yada...
      What are they going to do next? Sure there is a chance to develop the characters further and follow them into Han and Leia making babies etc...
      That's fine but I don't think it would make a particularly exciting movie. It would put us back in the position of TPM. Having to invent a "Trade Federation Blockade" (who cares!!) or similar to inject drama.

      To my mind it would all seem a bit mundane after the epic events of the "middle 3" movies.

      That situation is not unlike "The Scouring of the Shire" in LOTR. Interesting to see how the characters have developed but not really anywhere the drama of the final battle to defeat Sauron and the "Return of the King".
      If the reports are to be believed, I think Peter Jackson has decided to leave out the scouring from LOTR:ROTK, and I think Lucas has made the correct decision to do the same with the Star Wars universe.

      Cheers
      K.

    4. Re:Bad idea by Happy+Monkey · · Score: 2

      EP1 SFX quality is better than the original trilogy, but I'd have to give the design award to the originals. The spacecraft and "grunt" robots were remarkably uninteresting in Phantom Menace. The only exception I can think of is that donut ship. The non-grunt rolling robot was pretty cool, too.

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    5. Re:Bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah hell man, that was one of the best trolls I have ever read. Congratulations on a superb effort

      (Naw, not being funny. That was indeed a great and well written troll post and deserves congratulations. You really put the so called trolls in this place to shame. But to be honest, I agree with most of your points.)

    6. Re:Bad idea by infinitey · · Score: 1

      I concur with your observations/predictions. I was also extremely disappointed with Episode I. I believe George Lucas is more of a visionary than a storyteller. Perhaps with today's technology, he is trying more to "WOW" us with the visuals while sacrificing the story line. Lucas seems to be infatuated with showing us grandiose 3D images, and this teaser confirms that.

      The special effects are very nice, but unfortunately, they also look terribly fake and unconvincing. All the scenes look they could have been rendered with a souped-up video card. What gave the former trilogy its edge was the fact that most of the scenes were not rendered entirely with CG. The miniature models made all the difference.

      There have been a lot of comments on Slashdot that points out that our biases and expectations will ruin our overall movie experiences. I agree with this statement, but to a certain extent. I believe that a person who can relatively make honest and objective comments will know whether a movie is good or not. I may have created some "cushion" surrounding my experience with Episodes 4-6 and would have been disappointed with Episode I no matter how it came out. Unfortunately, deep inside I can confidently say that Episode I was a really, really bad movie. It just fails at too many levels. If you can leave a movie theatre without having rationalized what you saw and are still satisfied, then the movie was most likely good.

      So far, it looks like Episode II will be all shots but no scenes. Hope it turns out I'm wrong.

    7. Re:Bad idea by SparkyMartin · · Score: 1
      Someone saying the lego-block Special FX in SW:ANH is superior to SW:TFM gets modded up as 5:Insightful??

      If you think the original Star Wars FX beats TFM, you must pee your pants when you watch the original Star Trek series.

      Man you gotta loosen up. It's just a movie. SWE1 was a fair movie-not good, but fair. Go see E2. If you like it, great! If you don't, so be it, Jedi. As you said, we know what happens. We know who the emperor is, we know what happens to Anakin, we know all the Jedi except Obi-wan and Yoda are slain, we know Anakin has a kid and what his destiny turns out to be. We know what happens-we just don't know how it happens. Expect to forget about real life for 2 hours. That's what movies are for.

    8. Re:Bad idea by Bosconian · · Score: 1

      Concerning SFX:

      CG is cool and impressive. It just doesn't look solid yet. It's still too smooth and cold.

      Compare the X-Wings opening S-foils for the Death Star approach in ANH vs. the yellow Naboo fighters heading for the donut.

      Deep down, you know the X-Wings are models, but you don't know the scale. It's definitely film of a solid object, and you don't have to work too hard to imagine that you're 6 meters away from the canopy of the fighter that's going to shoot a proton torp down an exhaust port.

      CG looks like CG, and it's going to be a few more years before I get used to how it looks now. Either go total immersion a la Final Fantasy, or a purposeful mix like Tron or Last Starfighter. But the style of effects are bleeding life from the fantasy instead of adding to it. TPM felt a bit like Roger Rabbit in space with poor Liam Neeson trying to deliver lines to Phantom Actors, along with all the obvious animations.

      I realize and accept that except for matte shots or C. B. DeMille, CG is the just about the only way to show a humongous army on a fictional world. But using it just because it's there is an aesthetic crime. And no, I don't believe vinyl sounds better than CD.

      The CG jarring effect is bad enough for me that my favorite set of tapes is the original trilogy right before it was taken off the market for the "Special Editions." Though, I'd be curious to check out the newer ESB and RotJ just to check the scenes. But I have both SW and SWSE, and I keep being dragged out of the second by an animated bantha or a screentest macking Jabba... At least I know I could theoretically touch everything in the original. I can even overlook the halos of the TIE fighters...

      It's tough to explain--It's like the only thing missing in the scene is you, vs. a post card that says, "Wish you were here!" with a few Playboy cutouts pasted on the beach photo on the front.

      I eagerly look forward to the day when I can't tell the difference. But I predict about 10 years to patch it up to that level. Unfortunately, because it is so cheap compared to plastic and latex, it will continue to be used "until further notice." All that even after Lucas and Dykstra did phenomenal groundbreaking work with computer guided camera systems and movement.

      Well, here's hoping anyway.

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  57. Teaser Trailer on DLP! by jqs · · Score: 1

    On Friday I went to see MI at the Paramount in Toronto, lo and behold the theatre we saw the film and ALL trailers in was using a DLP projector. This was just excellent! Everything was crisp (too crisp in terms of static text), no jittering and no defects in the 'film'! As soon as Texas Instruments gets the resolution a little higher to get rid of the last of the jaggies, consider me sold!

  58. Direct Link by macdaddy · · Score: 3, Flamebait

    Here's the direct link to the larger movie. NOTE: They appear to have done something funky with the web server to first check to see if you have QuickTime 5.0 before they let you download anything. If you do not have 5.0, you will not get to download the movie. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a packet sniffer though. :-) The large movie is 12.1MB. Looks more like a slideshow to me though.

    1. Re:Direct Link by prototype · · Score: 1
      Doesn't seemt to work here:

      Referral Denied
      You don't have permission to access "http://applesw.download.akamai.com/ep2/breathing/ media/pro/ep2_breathing_640.mov" on this server.

      Never seen that response before. Maybe it's the Apple version of the /. effect?

      liB

    2. Re:Direct Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Never seen that response before. Maybe it's the Apple version of the /. effect?

      No, it simply means that the Akamai server hosting the movs will only allow Apple's servers to refer someone to the files. I'm sure you can get around this by modifying HTTP headers, but I don't know how..

    3. Re:Direct Link by DocJohn · · Score: 1


      Clicking on the direct link to the larger movie actually now results in a "Referer denied" error message, but copying-and-pasting the link into a new browser window will still get it for you. Apparently they've noticed the /. effect...

    4. Re:Direct Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The link works if you copy and paste it into the address bar

    5. Re:Direct Link by kindbud · · Score: 2

      Actually, that is not a direct link. It's a link to binary file of some kind containing a pointer to the actual movie file out on Akamai's network. If you do not have QT5Pro, it still prompts you to upgrade before downloading the file from Akamai.

      I may be in violation of the DMCA for having used the notorious hacker program strings(1), but here is the Akamai link I found in the pointer file downloaded from the link above. Hope Apple doesn't sue.

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    6. Re:Direct Link by Witchblade · · Score: 1

      That's still not the movie file, just another binary acting as a pointer. If anyone can download this serve it on a mirror I think that'd be a big help. ;)

      I'm in the strange situation of actually having QT5 Pro, but on the G4 at home with the 56k modem only capable of getting 28.8 on a good day, thanks to monopolistic telephone companies. Here at the university I have a T1 but no way to watch the clip on any available machine. Downloading the actual movie, saving to a disk and watching it when I get home would make me very happy, but appears to be the one thing Lucasfilm/Apple are going out of their way to make impossible.

    7. Re:Direct Link by mcjulio · · Score: 1
      Fill in the appropriate missing variables. The referrer (spelled referer) is what's being checked, so you can hack it.

      #!usr/bin/perl -w use strict;
      use warnings;
      use LWP::UserAgent;
      use HTTP::Request;

      my $req = HTTP::Request->new('POST', "http://$host/post.asp");
      $req->header('Accept' => 'text/html');
      $req->header('Referer' => $url);
      $req->header('Accept-Language'=> 'en-us');
      $req->header('Content-Type' => 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded');
      $req->header('Host' => $host);
      $req->header('Content-Length' => 207);
      $req->header('Pragma' => 'no-cache');
      $req->header('Cookie' => $cookie);
      $req->content("name=value\&name2=value2");
      my $ua = new LWP::UserAgent;
      $ua->agent("Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)");
      print $ua->request($req)->as_string;

    8. Re:Direct Link by macdaddy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Flamebait? I hate it when newbie on crack get mod points.

  59. Here is the audio by Whatever+Fits · · Score: 5, Funny

    poooooooohhhh
    paaaaaaaahhhh
    poooooooohhhh
    paaaaaaaahhhh
    poooooooohhhh
    paaaaaaaahhhh
    poooooooohhhh
    paaaaaaaahhhh
    .....
    Followed by a lightsaber crash....

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    1. Re:Here is the audio by El_Nofx · · Score: 1

      no kidding that was a waste of bandwith

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  60. :( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Starwars.com Site Error

    We are currently experiencing technical difficulties.
    Our droids are hard at work bringing the system back on-line.
    Please try again later.

  61. DOH! by vgaphil · · Score: 1

    During the trailer the lady sitting in front me says, "Oooo they are making another one!"

    I, of course, replied by saying "DOH!"

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    1. Re:DOH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The correct response, of course, would have been "DUH!".

  62. Saving a trailer w/o QT Pro by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 1

    After downloading the teaser/trailer, go to your browser's cache, if possible.

    I use iCab pre2.6 on Mac OS9, which caches into "System Folder -> Preferences -> iCab -> iCab Cache"
    iCab Cache is a collection of folders labeled "a" through "z".

    IE caches into one single file that I don't know how to get into.

    Anyways, I just poke through the cache folders (or use Sherlock to search for all ".mov" files) and look for large, ".mov" files. Drag-n-drop outa the cache, rename, and BINGO! There you go.

    I did this with the LOTR full-screen, but it didn't work for the AOTC medium; the cache folder size decreased as I downloaded, but it didn't show up...

    Hope this helps.

    (tig)

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    1. Re:Saving a trailer w/o QT Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, i just clicked on the little triangle at the lower right corner of the movie window and I was given the option to save the trailer as a MOV file. I downloaded the large trailer and I don't have QT Pro, by the way. Go figure.

    2. Re:Saving a trailer w/o QT Pro by CdotZinger · · Score: 1


      IE caches into one single file that I don't know how to get into.

      The Mac IE "Download Cache" file is a corrupted .zip file that no unzipping utility recognizes as one (because it's corrupted, because Microsoft is evil). However, the guys who make iCab also make a little util called WAC, which converts IE's messed-up .zip files into regular zip files (with iCab type/creator info). So, go to icab.de, get WAC, drop your IE "Download Cache" on it, then drop the resulting file on ZipIt or Stuffit Expander, and fish through the folders for what you want to save. Total pain in the ass, but it works.



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    3. Re:Saving a trailer w/o QT Pro by monkeydo · · Score: 1

      IE caches into one single file that I don't know how to get into.

      Just open Tools--Internet Options
      Under "Temporary Internet Files" click "settings", "view Files"

      Scroll down to the file you want, copy and paste into anohter directory.

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    4. Re:Saving a trailer w/o QT Pro by fjordboy · · Score: 2

      one way to get movies and embedded files out:

      This is the way I got the LOTR movies and all sorts of .swf files. The way I do it is to view the source of the page, find the file name, add the file name to the last directory in the URL, copy the url, open notepad, create and html file and link to the link you copied, open the html file in netscape or IE or whatever, right click on the link and click save target as, and then you can download whatever file they were trying to prevent you from downloading. I dunno if this is easier than searching your cache, but it is definitely easy for flash animations and whatnot.

  63. Re:Direct Link [MOD Parent Up] by ecampbel · · Score: 2

    Thanks, that link worked great!
    The quality is oustanding. Best video I've ever seen on the Mac; it easily surpasses DVD video. Go Sorenson 3!

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  64. After all that work by PeterMiller · · Score: 1

    Flying between different sites, searching newsroup binary groups, P2P seraching, and finally found a link that worked.....it really wasn't worth all the effort.

    With all the hype about the trailer/teaser, I was half expecting my PC to float in midair, slap my face, and explode with excitement. What did I get? 45 seconds of very short clips that look nice, but don't tell me anything.

    Hey, I love Star Wars as much as the next guy, but what an anti-climax.

    So here's a question: Now what?

    1. Re:After all that work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now what?

      You'll sit there and wait for the next trailer. And the next one and the next one and you will downloadn them all and then you will go see the movie.

  65. QuickTime for Linux by update() · · Score: 5, Interesting
    CodeWeavers makes the CrossOver plugin to view QuickTime under Linux. It costs $20, but for all the complaining about the absence of a Linux viewer, I'm sure there'll be a healthy market, right? Right?

    I submitted this as an article when it was announced but it was rejected. Apparently, weekly articles complaining about editors' inability to run QuickTime (while they're happily playing one Windows-only game after another) is News For Nerds, but a solution isn't.

    1. Re:QuickTime for Linux by rufus+t+firefly · · Score: 1

      There already was at least one story dealing with CodeWeaver's CrossOver plugin posted on slashdot within the last few months.

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    2. Re:QuickTime for Linux by update() · · Score: 1
      Yeah, you're right.

      My bad, although I had subsequently looked to see if the story had ever made it up and didn't find anything. Probably a Slashdot database disappearance thing that got fixed when Bender was installed.

    3. Re:QuickTime for Linux by alech · · Score: 1

      This comment no longer makes sense, as the original article got changed! It was different the first time I read it.
      Does this bother anyone else?
      It reminds me a little of Orwells 1984 - changing the past? The ranting about Quicktime has never been there, has it?
      How many Slashdot-Articles got changed later on, and how many will?
      An update (as usual) would have done...

      ALeX

  66. The worst offender by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Was definitely Hot Shots with Chuck Sheen. What was especially sad was that they were able to fit *all* the funny scenes into a 30 second commercial.

  67. uk mirror by obidex · · Score: 1

    mirror up at http://dangermouse.pod4.org/breathing.mpg for those of you without starwars.com membership :)

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  68. Colon by rsimmons · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Super Colon Blow anyone?

  69. Apple: Oh What a sweet deal! by Sixty4Bit · · Score: 2

    So, after about 15 minutes of download install download install, I finally get a message from the Star Wars site: To view this you must have Quick Time Pro. Click here to upgrade.

    Gees, another upgrade... off to Apple's site I go (again) and what's this? $29.95 ?!!? TO see a TRAILER!! SCREW THAT!!

    Please, someone tell me that I am wrong, that I missed something, that I don't have to PAY to see a trailer. Please, because this is just killing me that Lucas would think his followers would PAY to see this trailer.

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    1. Re:Apple: Oh What a sweet deal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You missed something.

      Only the "large" version requires Quicktime Pro.

    2. Re:Apple: Oh What a sweet deal! by White+Roses · · Score: 1

      You missed something else: you've been paying to see trailers all your life. $30 is a little steep, but the MPAA will have us paying that to see Scary Movie XVIII anyway, so get used to it.

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  70. How to teaser in Mac OS X 10.1 by silly+window · · Score: 2, Informative

    Click link on website to play teaser. After teaser is downloaded go to your /tmp/501/Temporary Items/ directory. There should be a QTPluginTemp* file in the directory. Copy the file as a .mov file. I don't know if /tmp/501 is the same for all OS X systems, but the cached file will definitely be in there somewhere.

    1. Re:How to teaser in Mac OS X 10.1 by silly+window · · Score: 1

      I just realized the 501 in /tmp/501 is your user ID...

  71. And they all laghed. (True Story) by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    It was very amusing to watch the preview of Star Wars and at the end of the preview they saw it name and a relly good %(over 50%) of the audence (Including me) Laughed at the name. At least it is not just slashdotters who thinks it is a stupid name.

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    1. Re:And they all laghed. (True Story) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could have been worse, they could have called it "got clones?"

  72. The last one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I remember correctly, The Phantom Menace was directed specifically towards boys ~10 years old. Would I be correct in assuming that we may be moving up the ladder in the target audiences age??

    Now that they have the 10yr olds hooked, etc...

  73. Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 3, Troll

    It's always amusing to see the dichotomy between Slashdotters blindly hating all corporations (Borland is giving their C++ compiler away for free, but not the source code! They are evil; down with Borland!) and the love of various other corporations, like AMD, Paramount, Lucasfilm, FOX, and so on.

  74. Good and Bad results of trailers by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    George Lucas, after deciding to take a break from Star Wars films, utterly snowed audiences with the plug for Willow, proclaiming it would change the way the audience views pictures, or some similar accolade. The result was an "OK" film, but massive disappointment and a fairly quick exit from theaters for a film Lucas had staked a lot to. So, did the trailer for Willow increase viewing, or decrease it through unmet expectations and negative reactions?

    Many slashdotters won't remember this, but for Alien, back in the late 70's the trailer was very brief, showing an egg cracking and light radiating through the crack, with the tag line "In space no one can hear you scream" Pretty effective, didn't give away a lick of what was going to happen besides a very very well done film. It really helps a suspense story not to be giving away anything. While I don't expect Star Wars movies to have the same level of suspense, it helps the experience that there is some and I don't remember seeing something in the trailer that will dilute the suspense.

    I've seen many trailers where the entire movie was given away, all the good jokes, all the exciting action, that's another view, drumming audience expectations and therefore attendance. That is a kind of fraud, IMHO.

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    1. Re:Good and Bad results of trailers by mblase · · Score: 2

      Even better example, which I somehow forgot in my first post: The Matrix trailer. You can still find it at www.whatisthematrix.com, although it's kind of buried. It gives lots of clips from the movie, but succeeds terrifically in two ways: first, it gives away absolutely NOTHING about the movie plot. Second, it shows a lot of the eye candy from the movie while still saving lots of equally-good eye candy for the people who buy tickets.

      Not quite as minimal as the Alien trailer you cited, but just as effective. At least for me.

  75. Re:Use the Crossoverplugin to play Quicktime w. Li by dinivin · · Score: 1


    It's one of the best products I've ever purchased for Linux... It's just a shame that it requires money to use otherwise free plugins under Linux.

    Dinivin

  76. Re:Direct Link - not working by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1

    Strange ... all I'm getting from this is a 2k .qt file.

  77. Apple's quicktime site has it. n/t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  78. Re:Use the Crossoverplugin to play Quicktime w. Li by amblin · · Score: 1

    Yes it's pretty darn good. Use it every day.

  79. Saw it at Monsters, Inc as well by maddman75 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Went to take my 2 year old to see Monsters, got treated to this teaser as well as a longer trailer for LOTR.

    When she saw the lightsabers, she said "Hey! That's my Daddy's movie!"

    The force is strong in this one....

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  80. This looks like a really good story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    !

  81. suck suckity suck suck by fleener · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I want those 60 seconds of my life back. When will a real trailer be released? I'll gladly endure viewing a clip containing Jar Jar if the rest of the trailer has substance and elicits at least a modicum of excitement and suspense. This EP2 trailer makes me want to work in my cubicle all day.

    1. Re:suck suckity suck suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you look closely at the scene where Samuel L Jackson is in contemplation (probably about how in the hell he ended up in star wars, and how bad ass it is to have a light saber) you can see jar jar walking in the background, hopefully right before being shot at by a bunch of clone warriors or something....

  82. Re:Direct Link - not working by ecampbel · · Score: 1

    You need to have QuickTime 5 or massage the headers that your browser sends to the server indicating which plugins you have.

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  83. They used the wrong music!!! by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was hoping to hear Weird Al Yankovic's "I think I'm a clone now" song as the background instead of the typical Star Wars type music.

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  84. eh. I'll stay home... by mnot · · Score: 1

    ...and watch Farscape. Much better.

  85. Attack of the clones?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn it! I feel like i am on IRC now...

  86. FYI: Free Download Version of CrossOver Available by knitfoo · · Score: 1
    We were planning on putting a free demonstration version of CrossOver online this afternoon; we rushed it into 'production' after we saw this post.

    You can download it here.

    Jeremy White, CEO, CodeWeavers

  87. Don't rush out and download it by jlv · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As mentioned, it's just a teaser. Except that it isn't much of a teaser, either.

    There isn't much of anything shown. Most of the teaser is "fade in from black, show something for 2 seconds, fade out to black".

    In fact, it was a large let down. If you go to the effort to download it, you'll just be sorry. Even a diehard fan of the series should agree with that!

    We saw the teaser with Monsters, Inc. Now, that rocked!

    Of the 4 trailers attached to it, Clones was the most second most forgettable; the other being some lame computer animated movie called Ice Age about a band of prehistoric animals saving a human child from the ice age. Lame.

    Two good things were shown with Monsters, Inc.

    - the trailer for Fellowship of the Ring. While I can't wait for this, I felt the trailer did not do the story justice. (and I'd already downloaded this, too)

    - the Pixar short For The Birds. This is hilarious! If you feel like downloading something, then go to http://www.pixar.com/shorts/ftb/index.html and see the first half of it. You won't be sorry!

    1. Re:Don't rush out and download it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you people expect? That Lucas should show you everything in the trailer?

    2. Re:Don't rush out and download it by ellem · · Score: 1

      I dunno I thought Ice Age looked really funny.

      I love the part with the Sabre Tooth Tiger playing peek-a-boo with the (rightly) frigtened child.

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  88. Oh Please! Please! by dmaxwell · · Score: 2

    I hope there is a nice lovingly drawn out and detailed scene featuring Jar Jar and an interrogation droid. Maybe it can jab that syringe into his tongue. It could be a sort of Clockwork Jar Jar thingy. If EPII turns out to be nothing more than yet another sappy melodrama with great special effects then I'll still pay to see it if there is a decent torture Jar Jar scene. What would really backfire and add to the tastiness is if the torture scene is supposed to be a dramatic emotional moment. The cheesy orchestra music can play up the wincing of the other characters as the so-called bad guys get a standing O from the Jar Jar haters.

  89. Download Now No Waiting! by litewoheat · · Score: 2

    No stupid Stawars.com user id needed either... Off you go

  90. Sad by maxxon · · Score: 1

    The trailer was uninspired, pretentious, and boring. Given how pathetic Episode I was, I'm sure that's a sign of what we have in store for Episode II.

    At least they're using CG for Yoda now. He looked downright laughable.

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    1. Re:Sad by dawnsnow · · Score: 1

      I thought in episode 1 DVD, lucas said he will never replace yoda to CG character. Or maybe I remember wrong

  91. Teaser trailer background by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a little off-topic, but I heard that the Episode 2 trailer was physically attached to the beginning of the reels of Monsters Inc. So, in essence, the teaser is the beginning of Monsters Inc. This was arranged by George Lucas and Pixar since 20th Century Fox and Disney didn't want the trailer in front of it and it's usually up to those companies and the theaters to put the trailers together before the film. Pixar used to be part of Lucasarts, but Lucas didn't want to go the whole CG'd route so they broke off, but they're still good friends with Lucas. So Lucas basically called them up and asked them to put his little teaser at the beginning of the prints for Monsters Inc.

    I thought that was kind of interesting, but according to theforce.net the trailer isn't on all prints or some theaters are chopping it off so it's possible some people won't see it in front of Monsters Inc. Just thought some people might find that interesting.

    1. Re:Teaser trailer background by Jburkholder · · Score: 2

      You know, that makes sense of how the "trailer" was placed right before the movie.

      Usually, you get the all the previews, then they run "lets all go to the snack bar" or whatever kind of ads they have that aren't trailers and then the movie starts.

      Yesterday when I saw Monsters, the StarWars teaser was played apart from the other previews, *after* the concession stand pitch, where the movie would normally have started.

      I thought "Birds" was one of the best Pixar shorts and it made up for the stupid SW trailer (my kids were giggling well into the movie credits).

    2. Re:Teaser trailer background by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh.. somebody modded this down as flamebait? That's pretty funny..

      "Whut? Yew sayin George's forcin' people tuh watch preevyews? That thar's flamebait!"

    3. Re:Teaser trailer background by artemis67 · · Score: 2

      Pixar used to be part of Lucasarts, but Lucas didn't want to go the whole CG'd route so they broke off, but they're still good friends with Lucas. So Lucas basically called them up and asked them to put his little teaser at the beginning of the prints for Monsters Inc.

      I would assume that it also had to do with the relationship Steve Jobs is building between Lucasfilm and Apple. This is the second time that Apple has featured a Star Wars trailer on their QuickTime site.

    4. Re:Teaser trailer background by Sodium+Attack · · Score: 2

      Where I saw Monsters Inc., the theater's own little promo was between the SW2 preview and the film. So either the rumor is untrue, or else the theater chopped up the reel.

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    5. Re:Teaser trailer background by Yoje · · Score: 2, Informative

      When I used to work as a theatre projectionist (before they all went south and had the managers do projection work instead), several films had trailers attached directly on the movie, or in the can with the movie. Usually, though, these were advertising other films by _that studio_.

      At one chain I worked at, it was company policy at the time, and probably still is (Regal), to cut off the MPAA "green/red" warning in front of all preview trailers, and attach ALL trailers together (if it was attached to the film, we were to "remove" it from the film and re-attach it to the rest of the preview trailers). I'm sure other theatres have similar policies, since they assume that the audience assumes the feature presentation is next after the "theatre chain" ad & sound trailer (for those theatres that still bother to put sound trailers on the film).

      So while it isn't that interesting that the trailer is directly attached to the print, and it isn't that interesting that the trailer is being chopped off/moved around/replaced (has been happening for years), it is rather interesting that a Fox movie trailer was attached to a Disney film.

    6. Re:Teaser trailer background by blair1q · · Score: 2

      Disney has the killer-app movie of the fall kids' market.

      Lucas has the killer-pap movie to sell for next summer's kids' market.

      Disney needs cash.

      Lucas has all the money.

      --Blair
      "Do the math. Show your work."

    7. Re:Teaser trailer background by g0rath · · Score: 1

      It has been mentioned that if the theater did not follow Lucusfilm's rules for Episode I, that they would not recieve any more promo materials from Lucasfilms in the future.

    8. Re:Teaser trailer background by Apotsy · · Score: 1

      Almost every movie comes with at least one trailer that is physically attached. The difference in this case is that the theaters were forbidden from intercutting their normal logo trailer between it and the movie, which they are normally allow to do.

    9. Re:Teaser trailer background by staeci · · Score: 1

      er is this trailer bundling? Should we call the DOJ? ;-)

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  92. Holy /. Batman! by cvd6262 · · Score: 1

    Ok, this is OT, but I thought I'd share.

    Posting those .movs on my IBM X20 laptop was probably not a good idea, but it has given me the chance to see how Apache would hold up.

    Since September 18, 2001, Code Red 2 has hit me with 1177 GET requests.

    In the last hour since I posted the Episode II trailer, Slashdot has hit me 662 times.

    Needless to say that I've moved to another station to get some work done.

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    1. Re:Holy /. Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you cvd6262, you rock! I mean that.

  93. Actually the Correct URL by BrookHarty · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pro/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov
    Is the large version that requires Quicktime pro.

    Quicktime will use your default proxy (on windows) all you have to do, is parse the proxy log for the 2nd .mov that it downloads.

    GET /ep2/breathing/media/pro/ep2_breathing_m640.mov HTTP/1.1
    Connection: keep-alive
    Host: starwars.apple.com
    Range: bytes=0-
    Accept: */*
    User-Agent: QuickTime (qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1)

    1. Re:Actually the Correct URL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get access forbidden with that one. Here's another:


      % curl http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pro/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov > ep2_breathing_m640.mov


      /T
    2. Re:Actually the Correct URL by Some+Dumbass... · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the correct URL, but did you really have to ram it down our throats like that? ;)

    3. Re:Actually the Correct URL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could use KaZaA...after fucking around for ten minutes on starwars.com and being led back and forth without ever getting in sniffing distance of the movie, I gave up and found it in ten seconds on KaZaA...very nice quality, I'm quite pleased. Looks pretty.

  94. Attack of the Clones, Part II by fobbman · · Score: 5, Funny

    All four of those servers are painfully slow. Looks like "Attack of the Clones" is also another term for the /. effect.

    1. Re:Attack of the Clones, Part II by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Shouldn't that be, "Attack of the Trolls"?

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  95. What a load by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 1

    The first three (Star Wars, Empire, Jedi) were EXCELLENT stories, although the best by far was the first. It opened up a whole new genre of both movies AND toys (miniature action figures, and all that came with them. THATS where Lucas made the $$$. He owned ALL the rights to ANY toy based on SW. my first was Darth Vader, with the sliding light sabre - 8th birthday). The original Star Wars was unlike those that have followed in that it was capable of standing on it's own, as a complete story. Empire ended with the capture of Han and the cutting off of Lukes hand, while Jedi couldn't exist without Empire.

    Anyways, to claim that the movies relied mainly upon visuals, action and comedy is ludicrous. Up until Phantom, the story was what it was about. All the rest was the proverbial cherry on top...

    Just my $0.02

    (tig)

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  96. Question about Crossover by mindstrm · · Score: 2

    Will this interfere with, say, native plugins? Or does it simply allow you to use whichever windows plugins you want...

  97. Doh, Correct URL., messup post. by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Informative


    http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pr o/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov
    Is the large version that requires Quicktime pro.

    Quicktime will use your default proxy (on windows) all you have to do, is parse the proxy log for the 2nd .mov that it downloads.

    GET /ep2/breathing/media/pro/ep2_breathing_m640.mov HTTP/1.1
    Connection: keep-alive
    Host: starwars.apple.com
    Range: bytes=0-
    Accept: */*
    User-Agent: QuickTime (qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1)

    1. Re:Doh, Correct URL., messup post. by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

      Someone mod the parent up!

      His link works so long as you (if you're in Windows AND IE) right-click the link and "Copy Shortcut" (Slashdot's line-wrapping crap inserts a space in the text URL, so it's semi-broken I believe).

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    2. Re:Doh, Correct URL., messup post. by ChazeFroy · · Score: 1

      Or just use wget or curl :)

    3. Re:Doh, Correct URL., messup post. by pjl5602 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Or for the technically challenged Linux user type:

      wget -U "QuickTime (qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1)" http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pro/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov

    4. Re:Doh, Correct URL., messup post. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need all the user agent crap... works fine with just wget.

  98. Ripping the movie / mirroring by khofTim · · Score: 0

    I extracted the trailer by "export"-ing it out of Quicktime Pro, does anyone have 9 MB of webspace left?

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  99. The fake one was better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I for one was not impressed. Actually the fake trailer was way more interesting...

    1. Re:The fake one was better by ellem · · Score: 1

      That's fake? It _is_ better than the real one!

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  100. How Is QT5 Pro Detected? by Buran · · Score: 2

    So... I'm curious ...

    What is it that makes it fail if you don't have QT5Pro installed?

    Also, since I work in a research lab where we use QuickTime all the time, we have it on all machines -- so I don't even know what it does if you don't and click the link anyway.

    1. Re:How Is QT5 Pro Detected? by macdaddy · · Score: 2

      I'm not a buff on the specifics of the HTTP protocol(s) but I believe there is something similar to the information you send about the name (identity) of your browser and the version number that shows plugins and versions. I believe that's what they are looking at. If their server detects that the connecting client meets the requirements, it serves the file. If it doesn't, it serves an alternate file. I think... I really don't know though. That's my $.02.

    2. Re:How Is QT5 Pro Detected? by Buran · · Score: 2

      I thought about your response for a bit and recalled reading that there is a way to use JavaScript to go through the available plug-ins one by one to see if any of them meets the ID string of the one you're looking for.

      This one is for Netscape 3 or higher and detects a VRML plugin:

      <!--
      function DetectNetscape() {
      var retVal = 0;
      var version = parseFloat(navigator.appVersion);
      if (version>=3) {
      var plugin = navigator.mimeTypes["model/vrml"];
      if (plugin != null) {
      retVal = 1;
      }
      }
      return retVal;
      }
      // -->

      The snippet is from http://web3d.vapourtech.com/workshop/embed/ which has details on how to do it in IE along with a script that makes use of this function.

      It might be fun (but I'll probably forget) to write a simple page that just spits out all the ID strings of all installed plugins on your system. Then one could remove the serial number from the QT control panel to make it think it's unregistered, load the page, put it back, and see if anything changed.

      Or maybe if I get bored I'll just turn Javascript off and see what the trailer loader page does without it.

  101. Resolution won't likely go up. by tgd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most DLP projectors in theaters are 1920x1080, progressive scan (progressive scan 24fps version of HD's 1080i).

    Most film editing systems run using 2k scans (2048 pixels across), so there's not any extra resolution available in the output from the production of the film.

    Some effects houses use 4k scans for input to heavy effects scenes, but as a general rule thats beyond the capability of the film stock to hold. (A 35mm film frame is less than 1/2 the area of a 35mm print frame on your normal film camera, and those barely get any benefit from a 4k scan).

  102. gnutella mirrors more efficiently by abe+ferlman · · Score: 3, Informative

    The gnutella network is a fine place to find an mpg version of this trailer, and as more people share it the mirrors will be more and more widespread. Peer to peer networks shine best in when they solve bandwidth problems by distributing the cost of mirroring popular data over the internet.

    I recommend gnut, a text-based GPL'd gnutella client you can use over telnet or whatever, and you can even open a shell over top of it so you can continue interacting with the file system. it's the coolest.

    It may be a good idea to search for "monsters" since the correct trailer (the one I found) was marked that way. Otherwise you might end up with the very well done forgery that has been circulating the net for a while.

    Bryguy

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    1. Re:gnutella mirrors more efficiently by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      Try searching for "MTV + star wars" too. They ran the trailer on MTV around 4:00 this afternoon. They politely kept all of their logo shit in the black space at the bottom too. Somebody should have a capture up by now. I'd make one, but my dialup doesn't handle a million DSL-kiddies at a time very well.

  103. Re:Direct Link [MOD Parent Up] by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

    1) There's a link further up that should be modded up, this link doesn't by-pass the check for QuickTime Pro (AFAIK!).

    2) QuickTime most certainly is NOT superior to DVD video. I've seen MPEG-2 streams that look much nicer than this and are comparativly sized.

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  104. Boba Fett by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It looks like Boba Fett is in this movie too. It looks like him in the background and with his jet pack blazing in one of the scenes.

    Also, Yoda appears to be CGI instead of a puppet this time. He actually looks really good to my eye.

    1. Re:Boba Fett by geomcbay · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's Jango Fett flying, Boba's dad.

      Boba Fett is just a kid in this movie, and is shown in the trailer as one of the clone kids sitting in the room with the blue helmet-thingys on.

    2. Re:Boba Fett by Lord+Kenja · · Score: 1

      Impossible. Slave 1 (Boba's ship) is also shown in the trailer. And as you know (if you know your Star Wars universe): Slave 1 was a special design made by Boba Fett (based on a Firespray). So if the good old Star Wars consistency is in place. It cannot be a his dad.

      Also note that Boba is quite an old rat in Empire Strikes Back. So it should be possible for him to be active some approx 20 years before ep IV

    3. Re:Boba Fett by geomcbay · · Score: 2

      Warning: SPOILERS, Perhaps.

      Sorry, but that's incorrect. In any case you'll see when the movie is out. Essentially all of the plot has been leaked, and that includes the information about Jango Fett, Boba Fett (he's the first clone, and given as a gift to Jango for his help in destroying the Jedi), etc.

      The Slave 1 is in the trailer, but keep in mind that the 'special design' stuff is not canon, its taken from somewhere else (books? RPG?) and Lucas has never promised that the films will be consistent with the 'Expanded Universe' stuff from other media. In fact, if you remember back to the time of the original trilogy, much of plot of 'Splinter of the Minds Eye' (a book released pre-ESB) was inconsistent with what occured in ESB.

      I'm quite sure of the Jango/Boba Fett information.
      Take a look at some of the star wars fan sites like www.theforce.net for confirmation, or even look at the official site which makes numerous mentions of Jango Fett in Episode 2.

  105. You are all a bunch of whiners by Zed2K · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I can't believe how much whining is going on. They call it a teaser for a reason! What did you expect? A download showing the entire plot, introducing all the new characters and some behind the scenes footage? It wasn't called the Star Wars 2 Teaser Collectors Edition! Some of you people really need to get out more.

  106. Is it still called... by Tom7 · · Score: 2


    Is this movie still called "Attack of the Killer Clones" or something stupid like that?

  107. CNN.com's write-up of the trailer/teaser-- by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

    Check out CNN's write-up of the teaser; apperently the author of this article thought it'd be worthwhile to list tons of thoughts of people who posted on starwars.com's message boards, such as these--

    -- It was "dark" in style, according to at least two posters.

    -- Natalie Portman, who stars as Queen Amidala, looked "hot."

    "It was freakin' awesome!!!!" posted jacenggf.

    I dunno... the middle one, about Natalie Portman, just struck me as funny for a news outlet to quote.
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    1. Re:CNN.com's write-up of the trailer/teaser-- by t_allardyce · · Score: 2, Funny

      Its not funny, its a serious issue, Natalie Portman _is_ hot, and some people just don't understand how hot she is. I actually hated episode one and two will probably be just as bad, but i will be forced to part with cash because i must get my fix of Miss Portman on a big screen.

      Every day, people are turned to crime to pay for their Portman fixations, something must be done about it.

      Is this something you consider funny? - seeing peoples' lives ruined because Natalie Portman is to hot? maybe your the sort of person that drowns little puppies and kittens too? CNN has every right to inform us on this.

      You can also donate money to help people who have suffered from prolonged exposure to Natalie Portmans beauty, and keep kids off the streets by donating to www.np-rehab.org

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    2. Re:CNN.com's write-up of the trailer/teaser-- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is very true.

      Case in point: osm.

    3. Re:CNN.com's write-up of the trailer/teaser-- by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Note that she didn't look hot,

      she looked "hot".

    4. Re:CNN.com's write-up of the trailer/teaser-- by SpryGuy · · Score: 1

      Hey, the guy playing Aniken sure looks hot too! Now we have equal-opportunity "hotness"! :-)

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      There are three kinds of people in this world: those that can count and those that can't
  108. Re:My first thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Smoochin'???

    What are you, seven?

  109. The Last Hope by bryanbrunton · · Score: 3, Funny

    In the far distant future...

    After George Lucas is dead. And his copyrights on the original Star Wars material have expired.

    A new film director arises and reshoots the Star Wars Episode I to III as they should have been done.

    This new director focuses on story telling and character development. The new films do not make use of fart jokes, inane action sequences that only exists to have action sequences, and highly annoying animated aliens that only school children can appreciate.

    All you need to know about CmdrTaco is that he actually liked The Phantom Menace.

  110. Re:Direct Link [MOD Parent Up] by tchapin · · Score: 1

    My favorite palindrome is:

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  111. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by ColdCuts · · Score: 1

    I can't speak for others, but I like to root for the little guy. I figure the big corps got enough momentum going for them, nice to see #2 make a few correct steps once in a while.

    If nothing else, it keeps the marketplace honest.

    Sorry if you've got a problem with that.

  112. Jar Jar's Back by DrStrange · · Score: 1

    In addition to seeing a glimpse of what could be him behind Samuel L. Jackson in the traier, IMDB has him listed as a cast member:

    Ahmed Best .... Jar Jar Binks/Achk Med-Beq

    So much for that bit of improvement that could have been between EpI and EpII.

  113. OT, your sig by Dyolf+Knip · · Score: 2

    What were the skies like when you were young?

    Where is this from? It sounds very familiar and I can't place it.

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    Dyolf Knip
    1. Re:OT, your sig by White+Roses · · Score: 1


      Little Fluffy Clouds by The Orb, I think, although that was sampled from something else of which I do not know. The girl sounds amazingly stoned though.

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    2. Re:OT, your sig by complex · · Score: 1

      you know this from the orb song 'fluffy white clouds'. it's been injected into pop culture thanks to it's usage in one of the first vw new beetle commercials.

  114. Quick instructions on how to get this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Download and install Morpheus (www.musiccity.com)

    2) Search for "Quicktime Pro 5.1"

    3) Search for "Quicktime 5 Keygen"

    4) Install/run both of those

    5) Search for "star wars 2 trailer"

    6) Download the trailer

    7) Double click it

    A great big giant happy face :) and thank you go out to Apple Computer Corporation, Inc. and Anonymity on the Internet :) Have a great day. What a wonderful time to be alive. :)

  115. Trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Terrible . . . bloody terrible.

  116. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by mickeyreznor · · Score: 1

    So, you either have to love all corporations, or you have to hate all corporations? I guess no shades of grey are allowed.

  117. duh, link to non member quicktime 4 trailer :) by jimCATDOG · · Score: 1
    1. Re:duh, link to non member quicktime 4 trailer :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a fan-film, not the real thing. That said, it's more interesting than the real teaser

  118. Re: CrossOver plugin by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    No, actually, I'm willing to bet the "CrossOver" plug-in won't do extremely well at $20 a pop.

    Quite frankly, I'll well past the point of being willing to pay anything extra to be able to view a specific video file format. If people doing advertising want me to see their sales-pitch for a new movie (what a "teaser" is, after all), they should provide it in multiple formats - not just proprietary Apple format.

    I appreciate the work that was put into trying to get Quicktime movies to play on Linux - but if they expect payment for it, I just can't cost-justify it. If others can, great. I hope it does well for them.

  119. fast connection..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's not forget the fast connection also.....

  120. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by ainsoph · · Score: 1
    Yes.. hear hear.. It became all too evident when epiode 1 came out that Lucas had lost his Buddhist yearnings and decided to make puja with that all mighty and powerful god of money. Was he always a complete sell out?

    While I liked the movie (Episode 1), you certainly won't see me prostrating around the theatre in attempt to get quasi-religious significance out of it. On the countrary, there are other films that have taken that place in my heart at this point, thanks...

  121. apostrophe strikes back! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1


    I guess thats 2 strikes against me.

    And the third strike against you is your failure to comprehend the ever-tricky apostrophe.

    In this instance, you should have used an apostrophe to create the contraction of "that is" for "that's".
  122. what passes for journalism by mshomphe · · Score: 1

    Check out this link on CNN.com:

    http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/05/sta r. wars.trailer/index.html

    Apparently journalism now consists of checking out web boards and reprinting what you see there.

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    1. Re:what passes for journalism by msm1th · · Score: 1

      Do you suppose CNN probably had something, oh, I don't know, more important to concentrate on?

    2. Re:what passes for journalism by mshomphe · · Score: 1

      Yes there are things that are more important, news-wise. However, just because a story isn't as important as another one doesn't mean that the reporter should half-ass the story.

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      She sat at the window watching the evening invade the avenue.
  123. My reaction by Tomster · · Score: 1

    (I'm a Star Wars fan. I loved the movies as a kid, and enjoy them today while recognizing their flaws. I didn't camp at box office lines, I don't go to theforce.net or starwars.com every week. But I do have some Star Wars Lego sets. Now you know a little about my viewpoint.)

    It looks a little gloomier than EP I (as well it should, being the second act... wonder how Lucas is going to portray the third act, given how EP IV starts. My guess: lots of gloom and doom, but the last scene references Luke and Leia. Now I'm way off the subject, time to close this parenthetical.)

    The city on stilts in the water looks interesting. The shot of the spaceport (on Naboo?) is beautiful. The opening shot of Amidala with the garden wall behind her is adorable. (So's she. But does anyone else think she has a somewhat vacuous expression in a lot of places -- both in EP I and this shot -- like she doesn't really believe she's in a 'space opera' movie or she just doesn't 'get it'?)

    We see Anakin in a black outfit... gosh what a surprise there, not like Lucas would foreshadow anything. (Yeah, I'm being sarcastic. I realize you're not supposed to wonder who the bad guy is, but I sometimes resent having things shown/explained to me as though I were a five year old.)

    Speaking of Anakin, looks like the young man playing him is doing pretty well. I slo-mo'd through the whole 20+ seconds and he seemed believable. No dialogue tho.... Still {rhetorical question alert}, can he do worse than Mark Hamill?

    Obi Wan looks good in his beard... is that him captured in the blue field?

    I'm hoping (perhaps unrealistically) that since we only saw one little bit of Jar Jar that he won't be a huge part of the movie... but it is just as likely that they haven't done many scenes with him yet. All that computer time... utterly wasted.... I can deal with goofball droids, and put up with cute fluffly Ewoks, but I'd rather see those computers spend CPU cycles on Fractint. At least the images are pretty!

    New spaceships and atmospheric craft, new landscapes and settings, new people. It's amazing that Lucas is able to put together any continuity with everything that changes -- in the first three movies as well. But he does a good job of keeping the main plotlines moving along.

    Nice to see that C3PO has his parts covered :).

    Lucas has done some cool things with every episode. I look forward to seeing a full-length trailer.

  124. episode II links by ericsante · · Score: 1
  125. Strange way to sell Quicktime Pro by SiW · · Score: 1

    So what happened this morning? Did someone wake up and think "Damn it, we need to maximize the piracy of Quicktime 5 Pro!"?

    Or do they expect everyone who quickly grabbed an illegal serial number today to see how many "fantastic features" they've been missing and honestly pay up the 30 bucks?

  126. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

    So, you either have to love all corporations, or you have to hate all corporations? I guess no shades of grey are allowed.

    If you are a zealot that rails against the evils of corporate control, then yes, you do.

  127. Difference between Geeks and Dorks by Chuck+U+Farley · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Geeks go to Star Wars flicks.
    Dorks toss $7.50 down to watch a trailer, then leave.

  128. You heard music? by finkployd · · Score: 1

    I just heard what souded like an obscene phone call

    finkployd

    1. Re:You heard music? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If there were a picture of Vador falling off a platform, then it would have been an obscene clone fall.

      Bahda-boom bahda-bing!

  129. Re:Bad idea (some spoilers) by ejracke · · Score: 1

    "we dont have a good association with any of the characters.... As such, we really arent motivated to learn more about them."

    Umm, A good association? the first film was supposed to be an introduction with partial fillin's. we are introduced too each player with ties to their future... You must understand that we DON'T know how each character will develope.... That will be Lucas's job. we already have an impression, being good or bad to each viewer doesn't really matter at this point, but it should be enough motivation to find out how each character will play a part later.

    "Lack of surprises" Did you know Maul was going to die? along with Qui Gon? Do you know that there are various new jedi's we have never known before and will play major roles in the next 2 episodes? Can i say Christopher Lee (Darth Tyranus)... Oh and for all you bitter and too mature for Jar Jar Fans, do you know how jar jar will die... I'm sure that is something many are looking forward too.

    "Special Effects: George is hooked on 3d. And it truly sucks. The models used in the originals made it the best special effects ever, and blows away anything they can do today on computers."
    WHAT!!!!! Are you insane! The reason lucas could not make the films better was because he didn't have the tools for making a more 'realistic' picture... The production using cga is amazing. Why do you think they produced their own software? What kind of visions could you produce using models rather than cga? I would love to see that production!

    "Its clear Lucas hasnt thought his plots out, and as such by the time 3 rolls around, the continuity will be completely hosed."
    Hasn't thought these plots OUT! He based the last three episodes on plots he's developing stronger than the first three movies... Remember, he had to create the first three episodes before the last three episodes...
    "Ep 1 had us on Anakin's side. Somewhere in 2, we HAVE to make a switch to siding with Kenobi. This is awkward, and will lose quite a few."

    We HAVE to do that?.. In an interview with Hayden, he states the decisions that anikan goes through is something we all can relate to... He presses the point that some people might actually feel for anakin and is troubled destiny, and will probably take his side! wow

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  130. You don't need to be a member... by sootman · · Score: 1

    to get the trailer from http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/
    but you need QT Pro to view the largest.

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  131. NO DARTH VADER (or at least I doubt it) by PortHaven · · Score: 1

    My opinions... DON'T EXPECT TO SEE A BLACK SUITED CHARACTER WITH A BIG HELMET

    I believe the breathing we all hear, is from the very end of the movie. I have no information on this, but I believe what we will see when we see what we were hearing in way of heavy breathing will be Anakin Skywalker on heavy life support. And I believe that is how EPSIODE II will end. They will fight the war, something will happen to Anakin along the way (obviously) and then Anakin and Obi Wan will fight (I will be very curious to see how Obi Wan defeats Anakin (one who has a lot more in tune with the force than Obi Wan)...and in the end will be a half dead Anakin being kept alive on life support.

    Hence the breathing was very long slow and unchanging.

    (Of course this is all speculation, we might find that we don't even hear that breathing. I thought the trailer did well. Showed characters and not much more. I DON'T WANT PLOT DETAILS. I am going to try to avoid them. Sometimes the trailers give away all too much. Anyways, we shall see. The one thing I'd have liked to see in the trailer would have been Bubba Fett.)

    - Jason

    1. Re:NO DARTH VADER (or at least I doubt it) by ChiefCrazyTalk · · Score: 0

      Remember the original poster for TPM showed the shadow of Darth Vader, who obviously wasn't in that movie (in suited form, that is). My guess is no Mask OR breathing in SW2 movie.

    2. Re:NO DARTH VADER (or at least I doubt it) by SpryGuy · · Score: 1

      Since Hayden is signed on for the third movie as well, I'm not sure you'll see him transform in THIS movie. I think this movie will only set the stage for it (it's more about getting Amadela pregnant in this movie I think ;-)

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    3. Re:NO DARTH VADER (or at least I doubt it) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You're right, Anakin will become Vader in Episode 3. They have the breathing in there, probably so people will think "Cool, Darth Vader!"


      From what I've seen online from supposed inside sources, (and of course, these things will not be confirmed until the film is released), Episode 2 will be considerably more substantial than Episode 1 was in terms of plot, though I think it will be Episode 3 that really will capture the feel the old movies had. Jar Jar is still in it, but I don't think he's gonna be annoying in every scene.


      Surprisingly enough, they cut out the scene in Episode 1 where they show Anakin's tendancy towards the Dark Side. I don't know what Lucas was thinking with that, OR the extra-lame name for Episode 2. I really hope that they decide to change it to something else (much like they changed Episode 6 from "Revenge of the Jedi" to "Return of the Jedi") given that people apparently laughed at the name when they saw this preview trailer.


      Anyway, long story short, Anakin will become Darth Vader in Episode 3.

  132. Just where do you live... by gaudior · · Score: 1

    Ahnk, or Moorpork?

  133. MOD IT UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mod him up you stupid idiots!!! the link wirks great!

  134. AHAHAH!!! by Ganzeman · · Score: 1

    For a breif second I swore I saw a penis in there!!!

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    1. Re:AHAHAH!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pulleralarm! Pulleralarm!

      Sorry, couldn't resist...

  135. if Anakin swung that way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it would fit in with the rest of his emotional problems, and his eventual turn towards violence and hatred... at least that is what I see from the liberals in the US. If you don't believe me, just check out the wreckage after one of their hypocritical hate filled 'protests'... violent psychopaths

  136. Re:Use the Crossoverplugin to play Quicktime w. Li by tarkin · · Score: 1

    Well , it works great inside the browser window. I use it as my main quicktime and even mpeg viewer. You *can* launch quicktimeplayer independantly using their wine stuff but it's too slow for my taste. Opening the movie file in Galeon/Mozilla is much faster and really stable.

    The crossover plugin installs quicktime, wordviewer and excell viewer but you should be able to install any windows plugin ( via the executables ) into the crossover plugin environment. I haven't tried any other installer yet.
    I think it's really worth its money , but I didn't pay for it cause i beta tested it and received the release cd in the mail ;-)

    Since I installed the plugin and aviplay , I did not have to boot to winblows to see some tasty media files... And that's just fab !

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  137. Where is a readable version? by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know where you can download the trailer in a decent format (ie mpg, DivX etc)?

    Shame on Lucasfilm for choosing quicktime again.

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  138. "New Hope" was a hack by Monte · · Score: 1

    However, in the opening text, it clearly says "Episode IV: A New Hope".

    Then you've never seen the original release of Star Wars, which didn't have the Episode IV text - that was added retroactively, after the movie made several bargeloads of money and Lucas realized he had a franchise on his hands, and then some. A little post-facto editing, a re-release, and voila! the man is a visionary genius.

    I distinctly remeber seeing the "Episode IV" text for the first time - I did a quick reality check with my friends, it was a surprise to all of us (I'd seen SW maybe half a dozen times by then).

    George Lucas has hacked history.

  139. man... I bet she gives GREAT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, you know ;)

  140. Watch out for the fakes... by pipeb0mb · · Score: 1

    Remember, if you see a trailer with any of the following, it's fake. Trust me...sigh.

    *The title: "ep2_large"
    *Christopher Walken
    *A blonde girl with a lightsaber
    *Dozens of Braveheart actors carrying photoshopped lightsabers.
    *Merv Griffin
    *Gabriel Byrne

  141. Actors Comments by stylewagon · · Score: 1

    Aussie actor Jack Thompson was interviewed on the *cough* Ray Martin Show last night, here in Australia.

    He talked a little about his role as a "moisture farmer". Talked about the set in Tunisia and how he took his son along to the set each day.

    He also mentioned that video-cameras were allowed on the set... I'm not aware of any leaking yet - but even after the film is released, this footage would be gold.

    Can't wait.

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  142. Re:Character Development by dy_dx · · Score: 1

    anakin: he was a kid...his character has nothing to do but develop (and it will be interesting to see where and when and why and how quickly the character change from "good" to "evil" happens).

    amidala: the fact that she used a disguise to stay with the action allowed her character to be developed throughout the film. also, the principle of that action gives some insight into her character.

    only kenobi and binks: first of all, i want to see kenobi developed further (there's got to be something more than recklessness to both creating and evading darth vader). second of all, there are plenty of characters for lucas to develop that we've already seen--in the sequels.
    for example, i am _incredibly_ anxious to see boba fett develop into a real character. you get a short glimpse of him in episode 6, and if you've read the books, you know that he's an established badass, but i want to _see_ him be "coldly efficient" while "exploding into action."

    i really don't see how there are big star wars fans who are pessimistic about this...i, for one, have been and will continue to eagerly await it. i trust lucas to entertain me (i wouldn't be a star wars fan if i didn't).

  143. But I do have something to say about this. by ren1999+disinformati · · Score: 2, Insightful

    George Lucas, Paramount, and FOX Television lawyers who go after fansites because they believe they are protecting their copy rights are really destroying free advertising for themselves and estranging their most loyal fans.

    1. Re:But I do have something to say about this. by vicviper · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess it comes down to what they (aka "them") really want: Loyal fans who provide free advertising, or the right to defend their IP.

    2. Re:But I do have something to say about this. by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah. The fans are just running away screaming.

      Star Wars fans are George Lucas's BITCH. He doesn't have the time to bitch slap all the whiners, but I suspect he'll start hiring people to do the job after this next movie makes ANOTHER billion for him.

      The loyal fans will buy the DVD of this movie, then buy the next 5 alteration and "Remakes" of this movie.

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  144. name and address - almost completely OT by PONA-Boy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    John Booty Writes:

    I have more of a problem giving out my personal information for things I AM paying for. Like when Radio Shack, or some other stores, ask you for your address after a purchase, so they can mail you spam, I suppose.

    PONA-Boy chimes in:

    Since I was a Radio Shack employee for (too) many years, I feel uniquely qualified to add my two cents on the name/address issue here. When you are indoctrinated into the Radio Shack system of retail bliss, it is ingrained in you that an enormous amount of return business is generated from the seemingly-intrusive practice of asking for names and addresses. It was, to me, an uncomfortable practice to get into the habit of doing but I eventually relented and pursued it. In fact, your performance reviews were partly weighted by your name/address percentage rate.

    Believe it or not, the truth is that the marketing geniuses ad Tandy Corporate were right - the more names and addresses we gathered, the more monthly flyers and promotions were mailed out to people in our area, the more advertising revenue went into our district, the more people came into our store, and the more money Tandy (and we lowly slugs) made. I can remember asking overandover again for the last four digits in someone's phone number...which was how the POS system managed groups of names back then.

    It was intrusive and borderline downright obnoxious but it really did generate a great deal of revenue for our business. I assume it still does...

    I saw the trailer at Monsters, Inc, this weekend myself. As much as I am going to try and insulate myself from the marketing chatter and numerous spoilers, I still enjoyed seeing those brief glimpses of what is to come. Looks like Ewan's got a beard in this one!!!

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    1. Re:name and address - almost completely OT by BLAG-blast · · Score: 1
      PONA-Boy chimes in:

      Since I was a Radio Shack employee for (too) many years, I feel uniquely qualified to add my two cents on the name/address issue here. When you are indoctrinated into the Radio Shack system of retail bliss, it is ingrained in you that an enormous amount of return business is generated from the seemingly-intrusive practice of asking for names and addresses. It was, to me, an uncomfortable practice to get into the habit of doing but I eventually relented and pursued it. In fact, your performance reviews were partly weighted by your name/address percentage rate.

      One line from the movie Cool Hand Luke seems to spring to mind: "calling it your job don't make it right, Boss."

      Thanks for the information all the same.

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    2. Re:name and address - almost completely OT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, mistar smartey man with the WACKEY MOIVIE QUOUTES!

  145. One guy by ucblockhead · · Score: 2
    That's because one guy narrates the vast majority of all trailers.


    I saw a short thing on it. That's how he makes his living. Nothing but movie trailers.

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    1. Re:One guy by SpryGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      You have to wonder if the guy ever gets tired of saying, "In a world...."

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  146. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by kreyg · · Score: 2

    Except... Lucasfilm isn't a corporation, it's privately owned (I believe - LucasArts is privately owned, I'm sure of that).

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  147. Yes, they should have gone with "after" Jedi by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 1

    Who's to say that it had to be in some civilized, well-mannered part of the galaxy? Why could it not have taken place along the fringes, in the backwaters, amongst the gutters? And just because the "Rebels" won, that doesn't mean that peace is sure to reign; just look at todays real world. The underdog defeated the mighty evil over in Afghanistan (Mujihaddin(?) vs. USSR), but did it bring on an era of peace? No, they immediately fell to in-fighting, and opened the door for an even greater nemesis - the Taliban.

    Face it, George Lucas has grown fat and sedentary. He has lost his creativity. 'Phantom' was a joke. The best character, Darth Maul, was created as an after-thought ; the actor was originally hired to train others for the sabre duels, and when George saw is abilities, he wrote the character in at the last minute. Only to kill him off. Jar-Jar Binks is a not-very-funny joke. And where the HELL did he get the LAME idea to incorporate R2-D2 and C3PO?

    I'm not holding my breath.

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    1. Re:Yes, they should have gone with "after" Jedi by SpryGuy · · Score: 1

      And where the HELL did he get the LAME idea to incorporate R2-D2 and C3PO?

      Um, from what I understand, the entire 9-movie series was supposed to be from the point of view of these two robots. The were supposed to be the only characters common to all nine movies. No single character other than them were supposed to exist in any more than four movies (e.g. Obi-Wan was in 1,2,3 and 4, while Luke was in 3 (as a baby) 4,5, and 6).

      The final three were supposed to not have anything to do with Luke/Lea from what I originally read. When Lukas decided not to film the final three, he "released" that time frame for the book writers, who then started writing post "Jedi" books. However, those books have nothing (necessarily) to do with teh movies Lukas had originally envisioned for the final trilogy.

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  148. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by metachimp · · Score: 1

    Uh, just because it's privately held doesn't mean it's not a corporation.

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  149. Not quite by flimflam · · Score: 2

    Speaking as someone in the industry (and who sells DLP projectors) let me clarify. The actual DLP resolution is 1280x1024. This gets you almost the full vertical resolution of 1080 HD, but considerably less than the full horizontal resolution (1920 pixels).

    Most film editing systems still run at NTSC resolution (720x486). Perhaps you meant most film compositing systems. Many of them do, in fact, work at 4K, and it is getting more economical to work at that resolution (and it will get considerably more so when the Spirit 2 comes out next year -- it does 2K in real time and 4K at 4fps). And a 35mm film frame definitely has more resolution than will fit in a 2K scan -- anyone who says otherwise obviously doesn't work in the business. Remember that you have more apparent resolution in motion-picture film because of the non-grid layout of the film grains. A scan of one frame may not appear all that sharp, but run them by at 24 fps and watch it sharpen up!

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  150. KaZaa by olman · · Score: 1

    Morpheus is also nice for mirroring.

    Don't care it's EVIL closed source. Works for me.

    And since I like giving a little back to the community, I'm leaving the morpheus client on overnight..

  151. Who is the Dark Side? by alister.b · · Score: 1

    We are many, you are few.

    Numbers verses money.

    Intelligence verses the law.

    If a bad law falls, is it wrong to help it down?
    If a good law wins, is the world a better place?
    If a bad law wins, is the world a better place?
    If a good law falls, is it wrong to help it down?

    Knowledge wants to be free.
    Knowledge must be protected.

    You are the corporate interests, we are the geeks.
    We give your gift to the world, to allow others to see it,
    to view your work unfettered by your own petty limitations,
    sharing your message with all.

    Without our kind, the technology we manipulate with our magic,
    black, white and shades of gray - you cannot exist as you do.
    Six of our technomages run a network, the network is a company
    you would ignore us only at your peril. Your eyes are closed.

    I do not think this is a battle you can win,
    I do not think this is a battle we can win,

    The winner may never be known.
    This is the technological world.
    The future is

    (Score +5, offtopic)

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  152. Trailer?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Im sure the movie will be great but the trailer was the stupidest thing ive ever seen

  153. Apple and trailer hosting by Wonko42 · · Score: 2

    Sorry to disappoint you, but Apple hosts trailers for just about every new movie that's released these days.

    1. Re:Apple and trailer hosting by artemis67 · · Score: 2

      Sorry to disappoint you, but Apple hosts trailers for just about every new movie that's released these days.

      Duh.

      But does Apple get the EXCLUSIVE ONLINE DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS for every major release? That generally has to be negotiated.

      I don't know if they have it for the AOTC trailer (I haven't seen it anywhere else, though), but I know that they did have it for TPM.

  154. trailer sucks, but Monsters Inc and Birds rock! by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

    Have to agree, saw four trailers with Monsters Inc - one was Harry Potter (must see), one was Send in the Clones (worst trailer I've ever seen, but will still see movie), one was Fellowship of the Ring (must see), and one was the short of For The Birds (hilarious).

    Monsters, Inc rocked!

    Don't know who did the trailers for Star Wars, but they should be immersed in Wookie entrails and left for dead on ice planet BillG.

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  155. For the love of Allah, get a life ! by Augusto · · Score: 2


    And just because the "Rebels" won, that doesn't mean that peace is sure to reign; just look at todays real world. The underdog defeated the mighty evil over in Afghanistan (Mujihaddin(?) vs. USSR), but did it bring on an era of peace? No, they immediately fell to in-fighting, and opened the door for an even greater nemesis - the Taliban.


    Wow, you sure don't have any fun. Sucks to be you !

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  156. Oh, I didn't notice Jar Jar by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

    Darn. You could be right. But they definitely did not stress Jar Jar being in the movie. There was more footage of the winged beastie trader/slaver, so maybe Lucas heard some of the criticism and downplayed his role a bit.

    Rumor: Jar Jar dies in the volcano accident ...

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  157. To make the above link work... by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    OK, well that almost works except if you just click on that or copy it into your browser it'll complain about a referrer error and no permission... that's because it expects you to be comming from the page with that movie on it... so, first go to http://www.apple.com/trailers, click on the starwars EPII link, then click on the large link, then on the page that says it requires QT Pro, to download click here... now paste in the above link... bingo... the last page the browser saw was the correct one, and you'll be able to view the movie... and as a bonus you can then jump into your temporary internet folder and copy the .mov file to elsewhere... as I just did... man it's a lot better quality than the smaller one! :)

    I'm now very excited about the second movie... it could be a winner... I hope.

  158. horrible trailor ? by Augusto · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    1st, what the heck is a "trailor" ?

    and 2nd, it's called a "teaser", but hey don't let me get in the way of your inane rantings.

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  159. Using cURL is easier by commander+salamander · · Score: 1

    This is easier...open a terminal window, and type:

    curl -A "QuickTime(qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1" -O http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pro/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov

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    1. Re:Using cURL is easier by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
      "curl -A "QuickTime(qtver=5.0.2;os=Windows NT 5.1" -O http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/media/pro/ ep2_breathing_m640.mov"

      bwahaha ... thank you my friend!

      And if you're stuck on windows, try using DLExpert, a freeware downloader that allows you to use a different user-agent for each download. [Notes: The site is down often, and make sure you use Ad-Aware to clean the transponder spyware that comes with it.]

  160. I HATE Quicktime by jezerbel · · Score: 0

    I fart in it's general direction..

  161. Suck Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pity you pathetic wankers that are going to dutifully pay big bucks to suck shit from Lucas' ass.

  162. Even Star Wars demands us to be information whores by bwhalen · · Score: 1

    This is deplorable, I thought the idea of promotion was to get people to see your ad?

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  163. A simple answer by Mashiki · · Score: 1

    Right Click
    Save target as.

    Download movie in 45mins across a 56K connection...no freakin' problems!

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  164. Watch the Trailer on CNN by Pooua · · Score: 1

    I watched the trailer on CNN:

    http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/05/sta r. wars.trailer/index.html

    Whoops! Too late! It's not on CNN, anymore...

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  165. Wasn't it originally meant to run to nine? by Atrax · · Score: 1

    I was reading a cheapo 'encyclopaedia of sci-fi' picked up from a charity shop which imparted this information..

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  166. Offtopic, but I really want to know by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1
    Are you saying the projected image on a movie screen is about 4000 pixels wide? I've wondered for a long time about this. I recall that the resolution for the work in T2 wasn't nearly as high as it is today. Can you elaborate on this? For example, since almost every single frame of Pleasantville was scanned into digital form so it could be made black and white, or only have some color to it, what resolution would it have been scanned at? Was the finished output significantly less detailed than the capabilities of the film it was projected on? One more question, when movies are filmed with digital cameras and projected with digital projectors, will that be the end of film grain? I hate the grainy look as I prefer sitting about in the sixth row from the front. Audiences are used to the look of grain, but they don't know what they're missing.

    1. Re:Offtopic, but I really want to know by flimflam · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, it's hard to say exactly what the resolution of film is, because there are many variables:

      1) The film stock used makes a huge difference. Kodak has made incredible strides with their stocks (as has Fuji, for that matter). Their 800ASA stock has less grain than their 500ASA stocks of a few years ago. That said, there's a big difference between shooting 5245 which is a 50ASA stock and, say, 5279 which is a 320ASA stock -- the 45 is virtually grainless.

      2) The format used makes a difference. There are many different ways of shooting 35mm film, all of which use different portions of the negative. Basically, the more neg you use, the less grain and the more resolution (because the less magnification you have to make to get it on the screen).

      3) The exact post-production chain makes a difference as well. The more optical steps you have to go through, the more apparent the grain will be.

      I believe that T2 was mostly scanned at 4K actually, which is higher resolution than most films done today. Pleasantville was done at 2K. However, the technology for printing digital files back to film has improved greatly since then, so it could definitely be done better now. Hopefully more films will be done at 4K in the future as hard-drive space gets cheaper (a big concern since film compositing is typically done uncompressed and with at least 10 and up to 16 bits per color channel per pixel, which means that even at 2K each minute of film is at least 11GB.)

      A complete digital chain does indeed get rid of film grain. There are digital techniques that are just becoming available to eliminate grain on film originated material as well.

      However, digital projection will, at least in the near term, bring about its own artifacts from compression, the lack of resolution, and some other things that are particular to the current technology (DLP can produce some strange flickering in certain colors due to the way it works). (All this is being worked on, of course).

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  167. Re: CrossOver plugin by NeMon'ess · · Score: 1
    So you're ignoring that fact that Troops and plenty of other files are available in Quicktime that aren't adds? Quicktime is a great format, far superior to .mpg in visual quality for a given file size.

  168. So it has Natalie Portman.... by Chester+K · · Score: 2

    ...and she's not petrified.. and I didn't see ANY hot grits!

    Screw that! I've been reading Slashdot for the past few years... Lucas is gonna have to do better if he wants to impress ME!

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  169. Episode 2 Plot Synopsis by schmaltz · · Score: 1

    here.

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  170. Re:Download Now No Waiting! by Legion303 · · Score: 1
    Referral Denied You don't have permission to access "http://applesw.download.akamai.com/ep2/breathing/ breathing_md.html" on this server.

    They don't like Slashdot. :)

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  171. Re:OT, your sig is fluffy.... by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

    Little Fluffy Clouds - The voices are those of Rickie Lee Jones and Levar Burton from the TV show "Reading Rainbow". I think she plays a Native American talking about life on the plains as a child.
    ;o)

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  172. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Case in point all Lucas companies are privately
    held LLC's ( Limited Liability Corporations ).

  173. Converting from quicktime to mpeg1/mpeg2/DivX by kyoko21 · · Score: 1

    I am in the process of converting the quicktime file to mpeg1, mpeg2, and DivX. The video portion is actually done already, but it will take some time to rip the audio portion out....

    when I am done, if someone wants to host the files, let me know.... :-)

    kyoko

  174. A better title? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Attack of the Clones? For god's sake, that is a horrible title, how about killer space tomatoes. Why not simply call it the "clone wars".

  175. Re:Down with corporations! Except Lucasfilm. by kreyg · · Score: 2

    Ah, well, LLC actually stands for Limited Liability Company. As far as I have been able to determine, an LLC is somewhere between a partnership and a corporation. Since the goal of this particular LLC is not to make faceless stockholders very rich, but rather to make George Lucas very rich... well take that however you like.

    Corporations aren't necessarily inherently evil anyway (although I'm not sure about their lawyers).

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  176. Re:OT, your sig is fluffy.... by Majik+Sznak · · Score: 1
    Outstanding! Let it be known that Reading Rainbow was a fantastic show.


    Thanks for pinpointing the source of that sample. I'm happy now. :)


    (Really OT)

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  177. fans? by Twobyfour · · Score: 1

    I wonder how long the line will be for that one?

  178. Captions and Analysis on the teaser... by antdude · · Score: 2

    A friend of mine sent me this URL. It was very interesting and I didn't notice a lot of scenes :).

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  179. Looks like you hit a nerve there by Woko · · Score: 1

    Some $3 crack smoking moderator is probably in tears over that tirade.

    Its true though.

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  180. They played it during the News in Seattle by nider · · Score: 1

    As stated in the subject, they played the trailer during the news here in Seattle. Stupid trailer.

  181. Re:Direct Link [MOD Parent Up] by ecampbel · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I might have spoken a little soon about the quality. However, the link does work for me, and I don't have QuickTime Pro, but you do need QuickTime.

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  182. Poor Trailer by Martin+S. · · Score: 2


    I think this is a pretty poor trailer, (especially when compared the LOR trailer) it gives nearly no feel for the movie.

    1. Re:Poor Trailer by pedaws · · Score: 1

      gotta read more closely... they called it a "teaser". ( I think they called it that so they could say "Nyah, Nyah. You paid $8.50 to see a star Wars slide show, now you have to listen to 5 year olds whime and giggle during Monsters Inc." )

      A number of "trailers" will be released to bolster upcoming 20th Centutry Fox films. I believe each trailer will concentrate on different aspects of EP 2. (Romance btw Anakin and Amidala, Obi Wan, etc.)

      Can wait to hear the MOANING 'round here after the romantic trailer :)
      "Is this a kissing book?" -Fred Savage

      Adventure, beh... Excitement, feh... Bootie-knockin', hah... A Jedi cares not for these things.

  183. free by leuk_he · · Score: 1

    I have the unregistered (free) version but it locks up my win95 pc......

    somebody mirrored a short version where the bullshit is cut out but that one is /.'ed/

  184. Re:From a Star Wars... Send in the clones! by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

    Yes, Paranoia was great stuff. And the "Send in the Clones" reminds me so much of this Star Wars. It also reminds me of something Dan Rather (or some other news anchor) said. That "We should be on the lookout for an unknown attack from an invisible enemy."

    Personally, I think Paranoia should be brought back. But this time, instead of communists, it should be terrorists. (Which would integrate well with the "secret societies".)

  185. Windows Mozilla & Netscape users wanting Quick by dannyspanner · · Score: 1

    Windows Mozilla and Netscape users wanting QuickTime support should vote for bug 74327 on Bugzilla.

  186. Who's a bad man? by Tarel · · Score: 1

    He's a bad man?

    Anyone out there can download quicktime 5 from apple for free without having to give out any information. And if you didn't want to watch the 'Large' quicktime of it, there would have been no need to go to google.com and type 'quicktime 5 serial'.

    I think the bad people are to be found at the Lucas studios... over a minute of listening to someone with a lung condition, punctuated by three lightsaber lightsaber clashes. Not to mention the complete lack of anything to cause salivation (as I usually do at the mention of Star Wars).

    When I finally finished jumping through hoops, and sat down to watch the 'Teaser', I felt like I had been ripped off (and that's considering all it cost me was time). I am saddened to think that all this is going to be, is a remake of the fast and the furious with lightsabers and Jar Jar Binks.

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  187. why hasnt he thought of it? by Xel · · Score: 1

    This is a thought that's been kicking around in my head ever since I first saw the infamous Phantom re-edit.
    Lucas has all these neat digital toys. And we know he's not loathe to reediting his own work. Why not release a G-rated movie, AND an R-, or at least PG13-rated version? Go nuts, George, put in 90 minutes or Jar Jar footage, more Eewoks than you can shake a stick at. And in true G.I. Joe fashion, have people use blasters till they're JUST close enough to break into a wholesome, bloodless fistfight. As long as the REST of us get to see Palpatine popping hapless victim's heads like grapes and Queen Amidala gettin her freak on!

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  188. The new trailer is out today!!!!!! by imac_boy · · Score: 1

    Today is the 16th, and a new trailer came out today. As far as I can tell you can only see it on starwars.com, and you have to be a member. The trailer is way longer and has a whole bunch of really cool stuff, chief among them is Natalie Portman. Check it out now, you won't be disappointed.