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Anyway, can anyone shed any light on how people already running Sarge can fix their apt sources up to be official?

My /etc/apt/source.list (below) currently returns a lot of 404 Not Founds:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

Do we just change 'unstable' to 'stable'?

Anyway, can anyone shed any light on how people already running Sarge can fix their apt sources up to be official?

My /etc/apt/source.list (below) currently returns a lot of 404 Not Founds:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

Do we just change 'unstable' to 'stable'?

And no.

The difference is: 'upgrade' will never change what packages are installed; 'dist-upgrade' will.

Say woody had a package foo, and sarge has a package bar, which replaces foo. 'upgrade' will not install bar and remove foo, whereas 'dist-upgrade' will.

Of course, if you read the release notes, you'd know all this... ;)

Or did you mean other apps compiled specifically for 64bit arch? If so then sorry, and ignore.

Well see for yourself: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=2 58880

As for the wireless card, you may want to try the Ubuntu live-cd too

From the release announcement:

With the development of the new debian-installer, this release features a new, modular and sophisticated installation routine with integrated hardware detection and unattended installation capabilities.

One problem for newbies solved.

Now if they only come up with a friendly alternative to dselect that lets you mix and match packages from the unstable tree, I might start reccomending debian to newbies. Heck, I might even use it myself.

All 14 CDs include EVERY package (...) and source.

Almost right, 14 CDs is just the binaries (on average, several architectures take 13, ia64 takes 15)

Source takes 15 more CDs

For a full set of CDs (that only an anal collector would actually want) for all 11 archs, and the source, you'll need 164 CDs :-)

As you say, the netinst image is the way to go, unless you want to send a copy to a friend who has no internet connection.

Hmm? But their official graph over release critical bugs still says 30. Guess they aren't that release critical after all?

http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/

DVD torrents

CD torrents (including net install)

DVD torrents

CD torrents (including net install)

For those who are using, or want to use, Debian Stable (now 'sarge'), but want KDE 3.4 (instead of 3.3), you can get it from pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org.

For those who've been using sarge via its 'Testing' monicker, I'm guessing KDE 3.4 will hit 'etch' (the new 'Testing') in the coming weeks.

Enjoy!

Yes, all kinds of images can be found here, and for DVD BitTorrents (x86) you can look here.

Yes, all kinds of images can be found here, and for DVD BitTorrents (x86) you can look here.

sounds like its time for bittorrent to take over eh?

go here

or direct links:
dvd1

dvd2

sounds like its time for bittorrent to take over eh?

go here

or direct links:
dvd1

dvd2

I'm glad Sarge is released but the release process needs better quality control. They're making the same mistakes as Netscape did recently.

For example, look at:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=p ound

There was a security problem in 1.8.2 (buffer overflow) that was fixed by the upstream developer and reported 40 days ago.

Did a security patch make it into Sarge? No. Did versions 1.8.3, 1.8.4, 1.8.5 or 1.9 make it into Sarge? No.

And yes, pound is a server-oriented program where security is critical. It is even used by Slashdot.

Anyone on the Debian team making fun of Netscape for the recent Firefox 1.04 fiasco is a complete hypocrite.

It does. http://www.debian.org/ports/

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/i386/bt -cd/

And if we run out, we will do http-redirects to our mirrors around the world, so don't be afraid to get your Sarge now!

/Mattias Wadenstein - mirror admin, cdimage.debian.org

• Offical Announcement
• Installation images
• Installation Manual

• Offical Announcement
• Installation images
• Installation Manual

• Offical Announcement
• Installation images
• Installation Manual

The original story (I'm the submitter) says that the main Debian site doesn't have the news yet. It has been updated to reflect the release between the time I submitted the story and the time it was posted.

The news release is here.

The only thing frustrated me -- the number of Release-Critical bugs is not zero! Why is it so? Could anybody give the answer?

Official announcement

Direct download links at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0/. Bittorrent, Jigdo or direct ISO downloads (CDs or DVDs).

Mail to debian-announce

News on www.debian.org

Congrats to the Debian project!

Mail to debian-announce

News on www.debian.org

Congrats to the Debian project!

In a brillant marketing sting, Steve Jobs of Apple, the Debian Developement Team and 3DRealms united and tried to get the attention of the world today by confirming the long rumored news of the release of their respective flagship products, the Intel-microprocessor based "Macintosh Computer", the linux operating sytem "Debian 3.1" and the so called first person shooter game "Duke Nukem Forever" within hours and by doing so slashdotting the website "Slashdot.Org" - the only thing of the whole internet thought to be unslashdottable.

In a brillant marketing sting, Steve Jobs of Apple, the Debian Developement Team and 3DRealms united and tried to get the attention of the world today by confirming the long rumored news of the release of their respective flagship products, the Intel-microprocessor based "Macintosh Computer", the linux operating sytem "Debian 3.1" and the so called first person shooter game "Duke Nukem Forever" within hours and by doing so slashdotting the website "Slashdot.Org" - the only thing of the whole internet thought to be unslashdottable.

Debian does not ship mplayer for two reasons: first, the official reason: there are too many legal issues that they do not wish to tackle. Second, in the past, maintaners, developers, and contacts with mplayer have resulted in more heat than light, for example this message.

Though there is an attempt to resolve these issues. Documentation of these efforts is avaliable on one of the Debian developer's websites.

Debian does not ship mplayer for two reasons: first, the official reason: there are too many legal issues that they do not wish to tackle. Second, in the past, maintaners, developers, and contacts with mplayer have resulted in more heat than light, for example this message.

Though there is an attempt to resolve these issues. Documentation of these efforts is avaliable on one of the Debian developer's websites.

Here you can find a summary of the mplayer-debian status.

have you tried the debian installer,"r"); i=~getchar(); putchar(getc(c)^~i)); }

have you tried the debian installer,"r"); i=~getchar(); putchar(getc(c)^~i)); }

have you tried the debian installer,"r"); i=~getchar(); putchar(getc(c)^~i)); }

I mean, have you tried it in the past 18 months?

-Isn't Fedora supported pretty well by Red Hat? -Debian currently has around $50K it hasn't touch according to the Project Leader report in April. -Gentoo... I'm not sure. Anyways, I think the money would be better used to pay for individual software projects and not for an overall distrobution.

None of (1), (2) or (3) are true: There's this on Debian's Wiki, Installing Optimized Kernel Package, which points to the package list. The package list for testing/sarge contains 386-, 586-, 686-, K6-, & K7-optimised 2.4 kernels, 32-bit generic, 386-, 586-, 686-, K6-, K7-, 64-bit generic, EM64T- and AMD64-optimised 2.6 kernels.

AMD64 will be unofficialy released with sarge, and with security support. The reason it's not official is that the archive have grown quite considerably and ftp-masters are worried but the size of the full release (all archs), I'm not totally convinced by that, but they know a lot more than I do. Other reasons are that the port came quite late in the release cycle (it's late enough as it is), and waiting for the planned biarch support. As for which archs will be supported in the future see the Vancouver proposition http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005 /03/msg00012.html and the debate following that on debian-devel (there's nothing conclusive).

There is Debian support for AMD64; it's currently waiting to be included into the official Debian archive once Sarge has been released (probably next week). Currently, the AMD64 port consists of an unofficial archive containing a complete 64bit binary port of both unstable and testing distributions. The AMD64 Debian site has even netinstall iso's. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/

All your complaints are obsolete. You know Ubuntu's ultra-mega-spiffy installer? Guess what? That's the new debian-installer which will be "official" when Sarge becomes the stable version.

You don't have to wait for that, however...

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

See the homepage of the The Debian X Strike Force - X.org and Xfree86 guys.

Found this link from the Project Leader's page

It's a text editor.

Your page says 16 release critical bugs right now. But this other page says 26. And it has a nice graph :).

I quote:

http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/

Number concerning the next release (excluding ignored and not-in-testing): 26

See this post by the RM:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005 /05/msg00011.html

The number is arrived at by excluding security bugs, because they should not hold up the release (because there will always be new security bugs, and they can still be fixed after the release).

Jan

For those wanting more precisions from Debian mailing lists, here's the related post.
Release update: minor delay; no non-RC fixes; upgrade reports

I must be living in an alternate universe. http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ is showing 26 release critical bugs now. I've never seen it as low as 17.

Perhaps you need to take updates more frequently. Firefox was at 1.03 and updated to 1.04 sometime last week.