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I don't think they're looking at putting Linux on desktops at the moment (like Dell seems to be).
Dell isn't "looking" to put Linux on desktops.. They already have. Unfortunately, due to their "Winmodem" policy, you can't get a desktop with a modem (if you prefer Ethernet, you likely don't care, especially if you live in a dorm). A quick skim through their site should back that up. (I'd post a direct link, but their site loads too slowly for my tastes)
Of course, I still think it's funny that they appear to offer Logitech mice, but in the custom config page for their Linux systems, you aren't given a choice. It's MS IntelliMouse or.. well.. MS IntelliMouse. Yay!
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Re:256 bytes of memory!!
The Dell press release on this quotes the owner as saying
It became a bottomless pit because of constant upgrades.
so maybe he'd upgraded it to 64K or something (or whatever the maximum was on that machine) at some point in its life.
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Re:So... which distribution(s)?
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Re:So... which distribution(s)?
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Re:Hard to find Info
What's so hard to find?
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Re:Ouch, reading with threshold=-1 make brain hurtIf I wasn't a longtime
I don't think that's too far fetched; some of the stuff posted on
Anyway, back to VA. They make some nice systems, but they got some serious competition coming from Dell nowdays. Check out that 410 workstation on Dell's Linux page. A dual P2-400 system is not that expensive, and a dual P3-450 should only be about $100 more when they get around to selling one.
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Dell cases ARE easy!Anyone who has ever serviced a GX1 or similar full tower dell machine knows this. For those who haven't, check it out...
They're very well put together machines, you can lock them, and if someone opens the case when you're not there, you are alerted when the machine boots up. "Alert! Cover previously removed!".
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Dell cases ARE easy!Anyone who has ever serviced a GX1 or similar full tower dell machine knows this. For those who haven't, check it out...
They're very well put together machines, you can lock them, and if someone opens the case when you're not there, you are alerted when the machine boots up. "Alert! Cover previously removed!".
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Dell cases ARE easy!Anyone who has ever serviced a GX1 or similar full tower dell machine knows this. For those who haven't, check it out...
They're very well put together machines, you can lock them, and if someone opens the case when you're not there, you are alerted when the machine boots up. "Alert! Cover previously removed!".
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Burlington orders 1250 Linux Boxes...
Did you catch the note about Burlington Coat Factory ordering 1,250 Linux desktop machines?
To me thats the big news, not Dell's investment.
Read it here http://www.dell.com/corporate/media/newsreleases/9 9/9904/6a.htm
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Dell Doesn't Think Linux Lags ...
They just bought part of Red Hat Dell Press Release announcing equity investment in Red Hat
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It does not seem to be available for Canada
I checked at Dell and I couldn't choose RH linux
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Preinstalled Linux Starting March 17
According to this page, you'll be able to get linux preinstalled starting on March 17, saving "you up to 2 hours of loading time." Maybe it takes that long on an Alpha with old firmware...
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linux in the pulldown
go to http://support.dell.com. they have full specs on all their machines.
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No Linux mentioned on Dell's web site ( almost )
Call me paranoid, but it almost seems like Micro$oft pressured Dell into offering Linux. This would let Micro$oft use the Linux defense in court.
Dell may be offering Linux, but you can't just go to www.dell.com and click your way down to a page where you can customize a PC, and choose "Red Hat Linux 5.2" from a selection list.
Dell Precision(TM) WorkStations 410 and 610 are supposed to be offered with Linux as an option.
Fair enough.
Now, I challenge you to go to the Dell web site and order a Dell Precision(TM) WorkStation 410 or 610 with Linux on it.
You can't!!!
"Operating System" is found as an option, but the choices are:
- Windows NT Workstation 4.0,CD
- Windows 95, No CD
- Windows 95 w/CD
- Windows 98, w/CD
Why is Linux not offered as a choice? Why do you have to ask for it first?
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Dell is getting away with appeasing both Micro$oft and the Linux crowd.
What do you think?
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No Linux mentioned on Dell's web site ( almost )
Call me paranoid, but it almost seems like Micro$oft pressured Dell into offering Linux. This would let Micro$oft use the Linux defense in court.
Dell may be offering Linux, but you can't just go to www.dell.com and click your way down to a page where you can customize a PC, and choose "Red Hat Linux 5.2" from a selection list.
Dell Precision(TM) WorkStations 410 and 610 are supposed to be offered with Linux as an option.
Fair enough.
Now, I challenge you to go to the Dell web site and order a Dell Precision(TM) WorkStation 410 or 610 with Linux on it.
You can't!!!
"Operating System" is found as an option, but the choices are:
- Windows NT Workstation 4.0,CD
- Windows 95, No CD
- Windows 95 w/CD
- Windows 98, w/CD
Why is Linux not offered as a choice? Why do you have to ask for it first?
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Dell is getting away with appeasing both Micro$oft and the Linux crowd.
What do you think?
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Re: G4 vs. Pentium IIa pentium II 450 actually(usually regular hardware and compilers) does 12 specint95 and specfp95
Wrong. For instance, Dell Precision Workstation did 17.6 SpecINT with a PII-450, and the Precision Workstation 610 does 19.0 SpecINT. SpecFP is 15.2.
The important point is that all this is commercially available:
- The Dell Precision Workstation 610 is available at about $5000 without monitor and stripped downat Dell Online Store
- The SPEC benchs were done with the commercially available Windows NT 4.0 and Visual C++ (for the libraries).
- The Intel C/C++ compiler used, designed to be integrated with Microsoft Visual C++ IDE (as a plugin-compiler), is can be ordered by these means for about $429.
And I used the Dell example only because there were uncontestable proofs of the performance of the PII/Xeon. This doesn't imply that dirt cheap PII systems correctly designed couldn't reach the 17 SPECint.
And for compilers, there are no proofs that they are all that bad ; the point is moot anyway since the Intel Compiler is cheap ($400). Any software company having performance intensive applications, and compiler performance problems, would be able to afford it.
a G3 450 doing 20 shows that a G3 is much faster than the pentium
Now I'm waiting for you to provide informations of how to get a G3 doing measured 20 SPECint (where to get compiler, OS and hardware).
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Sounds great
Even more support for Linux in the commercial world, it just keeps getting better.
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Form versus function, ad nauseum...From the various articles I've read over the past few days regarding the new iMac flavors and their impact on the personal computer market as a whole, I've gleaned one sensible comment - that the personal computer has reached a level, as a commodity, at which it can be considered a standard home appliance.
As such, certainly visual appeal and functional design are sure to become more influential factors in choosing a PC than they have ever been before. But my question is, why only now, and in particular, why has the iMac triggered this media blitz (which is sure in turn to trigger new product lines from everyone under the sun, who will say they all had it under development anyway)?
PC users have cried out against their cases for years. If those of us who build our own machines weren't screaming about the ugliness of beige, surely we were complaining to each other about the difficulty we had with working (physically) in our machines, the odd tools often required, and even the injuries we had sustained (no one who's done any sort of PC maintenace extensively has escaped some level of personal injury, ranging from scrapes and bruises to the deaded "slot bite" which results from inadvertenly inserting a finger through a case expansion slot and attempting to retreive it).
In fact, years ago PC makers took a great deal of effort to make it damn near impossible to work on your machine. And Apple lead the pack. In high school, I once had to repair a Mac in newspaper class because the school system lacked the funding to call a certified technician. Not only was it put together with torx screws, but they were so deeply seated as to require an obscure driver (luckily the same sort of driver is sold at auto stores for replacing headlamps in automobiles). IBM also contributed to the nonsense by putting together all of their earlier home systems (especially all the microchannel ones) with screws capped by a trademarked nonstandard head design, much like the gamebit screws which close Nintendo systems and cartridges.
While I'm happy that in the past several years, "screwless" PC cases such as those made by Enlight have seemed to dominate the market, and proprietary systems like Dell's now come standard with easy open cases which facilitate adding peripheral cards and internal devices, I do not share the media's apparent bliss over the iMac inspired "form over function" design revolution at all, because aside from it's transparent plastic gumball appeal, the iMac case represents a step backward in usability.
Now granted, that's part of the iMac's purpose, and the Macintosh mentality in general - make it pretty, make it easy, make it simple, I don't want to know how to work inside it or configure it myself (right down to the single button mouse). But is this sort of design implementation really what PC consumers want?
Take the bloated looking latest generation proprietary machines you see at Comp USA and Circuit City these days. You know, the latest line from Compaq, Gateway, et al. Large, heavy cases covered in pretty plastic shells which bend and buckle when you try to pick the machine up and move it, feeling more like packaging material than sturdy construction. And look at the way the plastic elements of these cases "snap" together, rnedering them useless if a single plastic bar should bend, warp or break off (versus a screw hole which you could at least attempt to re-tread).
Perhaps, this overhyped new design evolution will include remedies to such existant PC problems as well as relief from the ever boring beige regime we have all become far too sickened of, but I am skeptical that this will happen. Personally, I'll stay where I am for now, with my screwless Enlight tower, spray painted black by hand.
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-Khyron