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Hit em where they live, move to MariaDB by cboslin · 2014-05-09 06:11 · Score: 1 · on Court: Oracle Entitled To Copyright Protection Over Some Parts of Java

Of course stop using any part of Java that Oracle is claiming a copyright on. Heck I thought it was 9 lines of code, now it might be 37 APIs, come on now...enough already.

If this really pisses you off, especially if you are in a decision making position for IT in your company, seriously look at mariaDB and if possible switch out Oracle's SQL database for mariaDB. If you are considering Atlassian (JIRA, Confluence, Fisheye, Crucible, Bamboo) than use MariaDB instead. The first thing they did when they wrote MariaDB is get rid of all the things wrong with MySQL.

Many Linux distros have finally begun moving away from MySQL and to MariaDB for LAMP. Redhat recently started shipping their Enterprise version with MariaDB over MySQL

If you are the CEO of a company, did your VP of IT even consider the savings to the company that maridb would mean vs Oracle's SQL database solution? If not, perhaps its time to find a VP of IT that will put your company first.

Do you buy stock in companies? Do they use SQL databases? Do they use Oracle? Perhaps its not the best solution. Any company that does not control its cost effectively will take a hit one day, not a matter of if, only when.

Java is a PITA for overhead anyway, ask yourself, can I accomplish my goal without Java when developing applications...you might be surprised at how much faster and customer responsive your app is if you can 86 Java.

If its the entire API and not just 9 lines of code, everyone needs to re-evaluate their use of Java in development and especially in Cloud applications. No more Service As A Dis-service (SAAD vs SAAS)!

If you are reading this, you are a developer, time to think outside the Java / Oracle box!

Re: really by garyisabusyguy · 2014-03-08 09:50 · Score: 1 · on Austin Has Highest Salaries For Tech Workers, After Factoring In Cost of Living

some?
http://resources.dice.com/2014...

looks like they are making their presence known, but hey who am I to judge?

Re:And that's exactly what I asked for. by __aajfby9338 · 2014-02-07 03:08 · Score: 1 · on Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds!

*from Dice Inc. "Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero. "

Also if you were curious why the redesign looks like it does, check out the other dice sites. It appears they are going for a bland unified style across sites. http://news.dice.com/ is especially telling of what the future of /. may hold.

Thank you for sharing that quote from Dice.com. That makes it clear that Dice.com really does just think of Slashdot participants as an audience. Their motivations with respect to Slashdot are just to get ad revenue and to use us to lure eyeballs to Dice.com. We are not a community to them; we are a tool to be exploited to further their goals.

It is now clear to me that the problem is not that the folks running Slashdot aren't listening. The problem is that they don't care. Or at least, their bosses don't care. They aren't going to "see the light" and abort the Beta travesty because they want us gone. The folks who are outraged by Beta breaking what brings us to Slashdot are not the passive viewers that Dice.com wants. We are not relevant to Dice.com's goals. We don't come here to view ads. We don't even come here to read the posted stories, except as triggers for the discussion that follows. Dice.com does not want the core Slashdot participants; they want to use the Slashdot name to lure the cloud of passive Slashdot viewers to suckle at their corporate teat.

This suggests to me that Slashdot as we know it is already dead. It is a community built around a tainted well. The well became tainted when Dice.com came along and shat in it, and I don't see how the well can be purified other than by Dice.com leaving and taking their shit with them.

Boycotting Slashdot isn't going to change Dice.com's mind about these Beta changes. It's time to leave Slashdot and move to a new place.

Re: Why? by Monkey-Man2000 · 2014-02-07 00:26 · Score: 1 · on Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds!

The change is apparently because they're trying to co-opt the /. brand by putting the DICE website on it (and hope to have bought the /. userbase). Fat chance that's going to work out...

Re:And that's exactly what I asked for. by moschner · 2014-02-06 19:11 · Score: 1 · on Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds!

There is a fundamental problem in the idea for this "revamped slashdot".
The idea of making the site more inclusive and appealing to a wider "audience" by changing how the looks and works is a bad idea. /. is a community. If you want growth for the site, you don't water down your site and do things that upset the community. You make get to know the members of your community and make sure they are happy with the site and properly engaged. You address the needs of the community and allow its members to spread the word.

Those now running this site do not understand the community. If they did, they wouldn't be doing this awful redesign. They would be looking at improving the site as it exist. They would be curating stories that are NOT glorified press releases or PR stunts. They would be looking for stories that fit the theme of "Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters." They would be seeking out ads and ad partners that would respect the community with non-invasive non-tracking relevant ads.

The fact they had to post and that this thread has to exist is testament to how far out of touch with the community they are.

I'm sure someone somewhere decided that /. was under-preforming* and thought "I know lets re-brand it for the people we want to use it." No where was there thought about the people currently using it except the assumption current users would simply go along with it. At most they probably (possibly rightly so, only time will tell) assumed that people would bitch and moan but in the end stick with the site either out of habit or ignorance. The people in charge don't care about us and will happily play chicken to see if anyone sticks around. Besides, the managers responsible for this fiasco will be moved on to other jobs before any real fall out.

What we should be doing is making our voices heard to any person or company that advertises on any DICE site. Let their advertisers know they don't care about the people and that we won't buy products from people who support Dice Holdings, Inc. or any of their subsidiaries or affiliates.

*from Dice Inc.
"Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero. "

Also if you were curious why the redesign looks like it does, check out the other dice sites. It appears they are going for a bland unified style across sites. http://news.dice.com/ is especially telling of what the future of /. may hold.

Side note:
I was curious who this timothy guy was, so I clicked his name up there. Brought me to: http://www.monkey.org/~timothy...
If that is his personal site, how in the world should this person be allowed anywhere near the design of /.

Acct. Exec Job Open by Guy+From+V · 2014-02-06 08:25 · Score: 0 · on The Standards Wars and the Sausage Factory

At Dice for Slashdot Media Here:

http://www.dice.com/jobsearch/...

Only Human Waste need apply.

Re:Traget outsourced IT operatations by chipperdog · 2014-01-17 05:40 · Score: 1 · on Target Credit Card Data Was Sent To a Server In Russia

Not everything is outsourced at Target, they always have listings of Dice for Technology positions http://www.dice.com/jobsearch/company/DiceId_10111064/Target+Corporation

Re:All because they don't want to pay people by ebno-10db · 2014-01-15 08:01 · Score: 1 · on Code.org: Give Us More H-1B Visas Or the Kids Get Hurt

Salaries in technology are rising at a rate of 7.5% or so per year [forbes.com].

No, they're projected to increase by that much in 2014, by folks who have a vested interested in making it look attractive. If you look at historical data, you'll see them rising by 23% over the last ten years. That's less than the inflation over that period.

According to the BLS [bls.gov], they're projecting a 22% increase in demand for developers.

Here's another one from the BLS that says 8% (same as average). The BLS breaks up software jobs into a bunch of categories that nobody has been able to figure out.

The supply has gone up, but not by that much.

It could. You're talking about 10 years. CS enrollment was booming in the 90's. Then came the crash in 2000/2001. CS enrollment dropped by over a third. High school students are not as dumb or historically ignorant as some people believe. They know what happened back then, and so are much less likely to fall for the current hype.

Unemployment among techies is about 4.4%

Which makes it 1.1% higher than the average for people with bachelor's degrees.

Re:Indormation by Anonymous Coward · 2014-01-11 06:18 · Score: 0 · on Dell Joins Steam Machine Initiative With Alienware System

I couldn't agree with you more, commenter. And neither can the new Slashdot Beta, brought to you by the fine people at Dice.com where you can find a job posting well tolerated spam on Slashdot.

Re:Where have I heard this before? by asmkm22 · 2013-11-04 14:21 · Score: 3, Informative · on Silicon Valley Could Be Heading For a New Stock Collapse.

Tech unemployment for the third quarter is at about 3.9%

http://marketing.dice.com/pdf/2013-q3_TechTrends_Report.pdf

Re:Link broken? by Monkey-Man2000 · 2013-10-01 23:27 · Score: 1 · on Come Try Out Slashdot's New Design (In Beta)

Yikes. You aren't kidding.

I knew there was a real reason **OMITTED** left; I'm surprised more haven't jumped ship yet. This new management is going to kill ./ for good.

Re:Link broken? by CamD · 2013-10-01 17:54 · Score: 1 · on Come Try Out Slashdot's New Design (In Beta)

This is clearly a styling to match dice.com

Yikes. You aren't kidding.

Huh huh. Heh heh. by Hognoxious · 2013-09-15 22:16 · Score: 1 · on The Man Who Created the Pencil Eraser and How Patents Have Changed

I wonder if he comes from here? And maybe this vacancy from /.'s front page will be of interest.

Re:Mah nishtanah, ha-laylah ha-zeh, mi-kol ha-leyl by Looker_Device · 2013-03-15 00:40 · Score: 1 · on Australian PM Targets Imported IT Workers

And how is this different from the controversy over this exact same subject here in the US

Well, in Australia the Prime Minister is actually OPPOSING visas that cut native IT workers out of work (and artificially lower wages). In the U.S, by contrast, the President is falling all over himself to say how great they are, and ask for even more.

OT: /. drives traffic to corporate sister site by guanxi · 2013-03-05 11:08 · Score: 5, Interesting · on Best Buy Follows Yahoo in Banning Remote Work

Should Slashdot include a disclaimer when linking to a corporate sister?

In case you don't know, Slashdot is owned by Dice Holdings (see the bottom left of the page you are reading), which also owns this link from the front page story:
http://news.dice.com/2013/03/05/yahoos-telecommuting-policy-could-find-fanboy-ceos/

Please just stop. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-13 10:15 · Score: 1 · on Reasons You're Not Getting Interviews; Plus Some Crazy Real Resume Mistakes

I wish they'd just stick to maintaining the side bar with the job listings. "herp derp shameless plug shameless plug herp derp jobs jobs resume herp derp" isn't really interesting to any of us. If I wanted resume writing tips I'd just do a Google search for it on my own time. Here's hoping there's a way to set filters on the story submissions ... I haven't heard about people doing that since the Jon Katz days...

Study suspicions by R.+M.+Dasheff · 2013-02-08 05:10 · Score: 1 · on How Red Hat Hires

The link to the article (that's custom-tailored) that talks about customizing your resume refers to a study conducted by TheLadders.com, a recruiting agency. There are no details there as to how the study was conducted and no way to determine whether or not the results are in any way significant. YMMV.

Re:Normally I would agree with keeping the limit l by greg_barton · 2013-01-25 07:40 · Score: 1 · on Senators Seek H-1B Cap That Can Reach 300,000

If that's your employment situation then you should seek another employer. Unemployment among tech workers is half of the national average, and among some tech categories it's as low as 1.7%: citation

Normally I would agree with keeping the limit low by greg_barton · 2013-01-25 06:29 · Score: 1 · on Senators Seek H-1B Cap That Can Reach 300,000

But... :) Tech sector unemployment is quite low, so there actually is a demand for workers now. Adding tech workers to the employee pool will allow firms to grow, which will create jobs in the long run.

It is a wonder... by drkich · 2012-12-10 08:14 · Score: 3, Insightful · on How To Use a Linux Virtual Private Server

It is a wonder Linux has such an image problem with anyone, but the converted. Granted this article may not be the best, but let's do a quick google search for the actual article that the poster is refering to:

http://news.dice.com/2012/12/10/linux-virtual-private-server/

David Bolton talks about what he did. Good or bad, he documents it and shares it with his readers.

What do I read here, explatives, degrading remarks, and just plain snobbery. Here and there are some useful remarks. What I was hoping is to read a helpful discussion on what he recommends/did and what could be done better and how. There is so much vitriol to sort through, I don't even bother.

Pathetic.

Re:That's an odd... by Nuke+Bloodaxe · 2012-12-10 08:02 · Score: 1 · on How To Use a Linux Virtual Private Server

You are right, it is a mere part of the original dice article at: http://news.dice.com/2012/12/10/linux-virtual-private-server/ . It also does not help that the HowTo was written by someone who really does not fully well know what they are doing, and it is this sort of thing that catches out people trying to learn how to do things properly. What would help, though, would be if the guy actually got someone who knew what they were doing, and added those bits to his article so it was more complete [this is where a more collaborative blog is essential.]

For the record my first VPS was a pretty interesting beast at nosupportvpshosting.com, where you have to know what you are doing or suffer the consequences [I quite like them because they keep out of your way, plus I use it mainly for self-education purposes.] The HowTo at dice pretty much glosses over the security issues with a non-adequate solution in my opinion [if you have seen the nasty stuff flying around recently then you'll know what I mean.]

Re:Oh fuck by xaxa · 2012-12-10 07:31 · Score: 5, Insightful · on How To Use a Linux Virtual Private Server

Because it's from Dice: http://news.dice.com/2012/12/10/linux-virtual-private-server/

(The company that bought Slashdot.)

Re:Let's Just Hope They Leave Well Enough Alone by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-18 03:36 · Score: 5, Funny · on Dice Buys Geeknet's Media Business, Including Slashdot, In $20M Deal

*looks at Dice's News Page*

*looks at Slashdot*

*begins nervously wringing his hands*

What's the worst they can do?

Hire editors?

Let's Just Hope They Leave Well Enough Alone by eldavojohn · 2012-09-18 03:28 · Score: 5, Informative · on Dice Buys Geeknet's Media Business, Including Slashdot, In $20M Deal

*looks at Dice's News Page*

*looks at Slashdot*

*begins nervously wringing his hands*

Re:Wrong place to do a Q&A by Tough+Love · 2012-07-17 13:12 · Score: 2 · on Rob CmdrTaco Malda AMA On Reddit

Slashdot is increasingly cited by, if not mainstream media, at least the next tier.

Citation please

Example: http://techtalk.dice.com/t5/Tech-Nation-Discussion/Wedel-case-being-discussed-on-Slashdot/td-p/290688/page/3

Find more here

Look into straight-up part-time work for ideas by Beeftopia · 2012-01-28 17:23 · Score: 1 · on Ask Slashdot: Money-Making Home-Based Tech Skills?

Have you considered just looking for a straight-up part-time job? If you're an extrovert, you could try your hand at being a real estate agent. You only need to make a few sales a year to bring in some cash. Typically 3% commission on the cost of a house and you pocket your cash at the point of sale. That's one option.

As far as computing goes, if you had some coding experience, you might be able to rustle up a part time gig. Check out dice.com for part-time tech gigs. Go to advanced search - expanded to find part-time work. I think looking for a part-time gig will give you the best opportunity of flexibility in terms of where you work.

Re:Yay! I'm above average. by SomePgmr · 2012-01-07 06:56 · Score: 1 · on IT Salaries Edge Up Back To 2008 Levels

I didn't mean the summary here, I meant more like these:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-08-15-cnbc-it-jobs-unemployment_n.htm

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2011/06/09/tech-sector-unemployment-half-the-u-s-national-average/

http://marketing.dice.com/techtalentdemand/

Maybe they're lying, but reports throughout the recession have said tech sector unemployment has remained at half (or less) of unemployment nationwide.

Re:C programmers? Wanted! by phantomfive · 2011-09-02 04:59 · Score: 1 · on Age Bias In IT: the Reality Behind the Rumors

Don't know, maybe you're looking in the wrong place. This job seems to match pretty close. Here's another one. It mentions C along with shell scripting and Java, but as a 30-year programmer if you can't branch out to Java or shell scripting from time to time when it's needed, you have other problems (ie you suck). Also might want to consider that you sound a bit bitter......I can imagine some people sitting in an interview with you thinking, "oh dang, this guy is so miserable, I sure don't want to work with him every day." Unfortunately or fortunately personality matters.

Job hunting is a skill, just like any other, when was the last time you improved your resume? It's a two step process. If you aren't getting interviews, then work on improving your resume (or job searching skill, maybe you're looking in the wrong place until you are getting interviews. Step two, if you are getting interviews but not jobs, then work on improving your interview skills.

And it doesn't hurt to branch out and improve your skillset. You're not THAT old, try learning another language.

Why Educational Technology Has Failed Schools by Paul+Fernhout · 2011-06-23 04:46 · Score: 1 · on Why Johnny Can't Code and How That Can Change

http://patapata.sourceforge.net/WhyEducationalTechnologyHasFailedSchools.html
"Ultimately, educational technology's greatest value is in supporting "learning on demand" based on interest or need which is at the opposite end of the spectrum compared to "learning just in case" based on someone else's demand. Compulsory schools don't usually traffic in "learning on demand", for the most part leaving that kind of activity to libraries or museums or the home or business or the "real world". In order for compulsory schools to make use of the best of educational technology and what is has to
offer, schools themselves must change. ... So, there is more to the story of technology than it failing in schools. Modern information and manufacturing technology itself is giving compulsory schools a failing grade. Compulsory schools do not pass in the information age. They are no longer needed. What remains is just to watch this all play out, and hopefully guide the collapse of compulsory schooling so that the fewest people get hurt in the process."

I wrote that essay after working towards some FOSS tools to make it easier for kids to get into programming.

Also related:
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/16a.htm
"I'll bring this down to earth. Try to see that an intricately subordinated industrial/commercial system has only limited use for hundreds of millions of self-reliant, resourceful readers and critical thinkers. In an egalitarian, entrepreneurially based economy of confederated families like the one the Amish have or the Mondragon folk in the Basque region of Spain, any number of self-reliant people can be accommodated usefully, but not in a concentrated command-type economy like our own. Where on earth would they fit? In a great fanfare of moral fervor some years back, the Ford Motor Company opened the world's most productive auto engine plant in Chihuahua, Mexico. It insisted on hiring employees with 50 percent more school training than the Mexican norm of six years, but as time passed Ford removed its requirements and began to hire school dropouts, training them quite well in four to twelve weeks. The hype that education is essential to robot-like work was quietly abandoned. Our economy has no adequate outlet of expression for its artists, dancers, poets, painters, farmers, filmmakers, wildcat business people, handcraft workers, whiskey makers, intellectuals, or a thousand other useful human enterprises -- no outlet except corporate work or fringe slots on the periphery of things. Unless you do "creative" work the company way, you run afoul of a host of laws and regulations put on the books to control the dangerous products of imagination which can never be safely tolerated by a centralized command system."

And, speaking as someone who has been using computers for thirty years, and while thinking everyone should ideally have a baisc computer literacy to be an informed citizen, how many programmers does the world really need? Kids are smart. They know there are fewer and fewer "good" jobs in technology for all sorts of reasons.
http://philip.greenspun.com/careers/women-in-science
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~dg/crunch_art.html
http://community.dice.com/t5/Tech-Market-Conditions/Alice-Dice-s-claim-of-4-Unemployment/td-p/235866

From:
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4209831/Engineering--The-next-generation
"We often hear from readers who are engineers that they try to dissuade sons and daught

does vivek know wtf he's doing? by jsepeta · 2011-04-28 09:09 · Score: 3, Informative · on US Gov't To Close 137 Data Centers In 2011, More By 2015

I think NOT.
http://community.dice.com/t5/Current-Events/US-CIO-Vivek-Kundra-at-best-a-lightweight-at-worst-a-fraud/td-p/216786

he's also not to be trusted.
http://gawker.com/#!5174642/obamas-thieving-geek-guilty-of-bad-taste

Nonsense by Xugumad · 2010-08-23 08:42 · Score: 2, Insightful · on Skills Needed For a Future In IT

> Consider, he says, that graphics chips are doubling in capacity every six months. That translates into a thousandfold increase in capacity over a five-year period -- the average shelf life of most game platforms. "We've never seen anything like it in any industry," he says.

Yes. I definitely remember my XBox 360 being 3 orders of magnitude more powerful than the XBox. I hate to cite Wikipedia, but this appears to show a 5 times increase in 4 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transistor_count&oldid=374101890#GPUs

> At the same time, colleges can't adapt their curricula fast enough to prepare students for the complexities of cloud computing and virtualization, not to mention specific technologies such as Microsoft SharePoint, observers say. Recent graduates also seem naive when it comes to business basics and how computing foundations apply to the real world, says David Buzzell, CIO at The Sedona Group, a Moline, Ill.-based workforce management services provider.

That's not new. Most colleges/universities do theory-heavy courses designed to let you learn the next big technology. If you want a MS certificate to say you grok Sharepoint, you can get that for a LOT less than a college degree.

> Another didn't know what an invoice was.

If you advertise for a someone with 2-5 years experience of a software package with 2007 in the name... http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&dockey=xml/0/5/0598524509067860fbf7aef52a6ae982@endecaindex&c=1&source=20

Re:Pay gaps by crossmr · 2010-06-28 10:31 · Score: 1 · on Women Dropping Out of IT

Equal experience levels doesn't mean employees are doing equal work at equal levels.
http://marketing.dice.com/pdf/Dice_2008-09_TechSalarySurvey.pdf
here is the actual survey, I see nothing in there which breaks it down by experience level and gender. It is simply a blanket average for genders. Experience level is on page 7 and isn't broken down by gender at all.
It is the same as it always has been. misleading statistics to try and make some imaginary point.

Re:Raytheon by Anonymous Coward · 2010-01-27 04:04 · Score: 1, Interesting · on Antarctica Needs a Network Engineer

For anyone who's interested, Raytheon Polar Services is almost always hiring for positions at the US South Pole research facilities.

It's interesting to note that the Navy (NMCI) blocks web traffic to http://www.rayjobs.com/ but not to http://www.monster.com/ or http://www.dice.com./

Re:Salary by Herkum01 · 2010-01-26 07:01 · Score: 1 · on Is Programming a Lucrative Profession?

Perl is a tough market, it only has a few good job markets and relatively few positions available compared to Java or .NET or c# stuff. I looked for positions on http://jobs.perl.org/ and http://www.dice.com./ Dice has more Perl listings but I have gotten responses from both.

Like I said, Perl positions are spotty, I moved to Pittsburgh for 6 months, there was only one company advertising for one Perl position, that was it. Nothing else even close. Good job markets are in LA, San Fransico, NYC and after that, it becomes slim pickings with a position popping up every once in a while in a location.

Re:Asp.Net is NOT a 'popular' business framework. by bit+trollent · 2009-12-18 02:03 · Score: 5, Insightful · on Has a Decade of .NET Delivered On Microsoft's Promises?

Where I live, on Dice.com there are 74 open ASP.NET, and 17 open PHP jobs.

You are totally talking out of your ass. I really hope you understand the irony of starting with, "please dont bullcrap if you are not in industry".

I may not be in the dumb, arrogant PHP developer industry, but I can assure you that I am in the industry. There is a good chance that if you haven't used a website that I helped develop, you have at least used one that my company has. Where I work, we use ASP.NET (Primarily .NET) and Java, but not PHP.

But hey, don't let that discourage you the next time you want to post an uninformed and totally inaccurate rant about PHP and how you are in the industry but nobody else is...

Re:You should have asked this a year before. by Snugglypoo · 2008-10-14 04:49 · Score: 1 · on Getting Hired As an Entry-Level Programmer?

Put in for the jobs that require 2-5 years experience.
Worst thing that can happen is you bomb a phone screen.
Best thing that can happen is you get a sweet job.
Always look for "entry-level" jobs on job websites.
http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?SAVESEARCH=&op=300&caller=2&LOCATION_OPTION=2&AREA_CODES=&ZIPCODE=&RADIUS=64.37376&COUNTRY=&METRO_AREA=33.78715899%2C-84.39164034&TRAVEL=0&SORTSPEC=0&FRMT=0&DAYSBACK=30&NUM_PER_PAGE=30&N=0&EXPANDED_NE=&FREE_TEXT=entry+level+programmer&Ntx=mode+matchall
Don't be afraid to relocate.

Re:Sounds like B.S. to me by xTantrum · 2008-08-05 06:52 · Score: 1 · on California Can't Perform Pay Cut Because of COBOL

i think dice.com would probably agree.

Re:Consider the source by walterbyrd · 2008-05-14 12:47 · Score: 1 · on Techies Keen to Keep Jobs In the Family

So, I'm curious, you say that you foresee the end of the US IT job market. Why?

Aggressive off-shoring. Jobs are being sent off-shore like mad, and off-shore workers are being brought in to do whatever jobs are remaining.

There will still be some IT jobs in the USA, of course. Some US citizens will still be hired. But the supply/demand ratio will make IT about the worst field you can enter.

What is happening to IT now is something like what happened to auto and steal workers in the 1980s. Except the assembly line workers did have to invest in specialized training, or fight to get specialized experience.

Don't take my word for it, read the headlines:

High Tech Industry Laying Off American Workers While Seeking Huge Increase in Guest Workers
> "Currently, the Department of Labor estimates that there are about 656,000 unemployed IT workers in the U.S. In addition, the slowing economy has led to a loss of jobs across the board including in IT. The Denver-based Rocky Mountain News reports that Colorado -- the state with the third highest concentration of IT workers -- has lost 47,200 technology jobs since 2001."

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_may08nl02

Gains in US high tech employment more than offset by off-shore worker visas"
> "According to the AeA Cyberstates yearly reports, "High Tech" employment experienced job losses of 945,000 in the 2001 recession. Since this drop in employment, the "High Tech" sector has recovered about 300,000 jobs, but during the period in question, a probable 669,681 H-1B and L-1 computer-related workers were added to the workforce."

http://tinyurl.com/3pj2c3

IT job security plummets five times faster than nationwide average
> "Job security for IT professionals plummeted more than 10% from January to February of this year, far surpassing the average job security declines seen nationwide in a rigorous analysis of U.S. employment patterns."

http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/edu/2008/033108ed1.html

Take a look at the forums on dice - they are filled with people who have a degree, but can not get a job. Here are some examples:

"I graduated with a B.S. in Computer Science from New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT) back in January 2005. After I graduated, I was unable to find a job . . . so in order to pay bills and student loans, I had to get a temp job doing customer service, making $12 an hour"

http://seeker.dice.com/olc/thread.jspa?threadID=6562&tstart=0

"I have bachelors degree in computer science. I have 10yrs of experience in software and 5yrs in .net. But now i have been laid of and out of job for past 4 months."

http://seeker.dice.com/olc/thread.jspa?threadID=7151&tstart=0

"I am a cliche . . . I am 24 year old, B.Sc. Computer Science grad from an above average state school, and I'm unemployed."

http://seeker.dice.com/olc/thread.jspa?threadID=4896&start=0&tstart=0

"I graduated with a B.S in Computer Science last year May 2007. Though after applying to hundreds of places I've only gotten a handful of interviews and no IT job as of yet! All my other friends who majored in business or accounting managed to get jobs fairly easily."

http://seeker.dice.com/olc/thread.jspa?threadID=6875&tstart=0

"Soooo. I graduate May of 07, with a 3.3 and a BSIT but no experience in IT Security . . . And I am $#*7 out of luck"