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Eudora had this feature in the past, so you might want to look at it and see if it still does.

http://eudora.com/

It's apparently open source now, so if you could add this feature if it doesn't exist.

http://www.eudora.com/email/features/moodwatch.html

Google and see peppers here

1. Step 1: Download free Eudora: http://www.eudora.com/
2. Step 2: Unrar the .mbox file from your torrent download
3. Step 3: Rename the .mbox to .mbx, this should cause windows to detect it as a Eudora file
4. Step 4: Simply double click on the .mbx file and Eudora will load it with all the juicy emails! :)

Adeptus

Here's hoping the new Eudora includes the best features and functionality of both Eudora 7.x and Thunderbird (both of which I use daily). I haven't seen anything else which matches the the filtering capabilities in Eudora, but the HTML renderer is as powerful as a gopher browser. On the other hand, I really like Thunderbird's ability to keep multiple accounts separated and and treat their settings independently.

You can setup different users with different settings in Eudora:

How do I set up multiple users on one machine? For the Mac, for Windows, Multiple Users/Mailboxes (Windows)

Here's hoping the new Eudora includes the best features and functionality of both Eudora 7.x and Thunderbird (both of which I use daily). I haven't seen anything else which matches the the filtering capabilities in Eudora, but the HTML renderer is as powerful as a gopher browser. On the other hand, I really like Thunderbird's ability to keep multiple accounts separated and and treat their settings independently.

You can setup different users with different settings in Eudora:

How do I set up multiple users on one machine? For the Mac, for Windows, Multiple Users/Mailboxes (Windows)

Eudora's home page http://www.eudora.com/ says that the paid mode Eudora is no longer available, and that an open source version of Eudora is being developed by Mozilla. An article at http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=2 0078 says that the new Eudora will be based on the Thunderbird engine. This is apparently the Penelope project http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope , which claims not to be trying to supplant Thunderbird, but may be about to do so. Would an insider please clarify all this?

In the year since I moved to an Apple machine I've come to understand how solid and useful Pegasus Mail had become. In twelve months I've moved from Apple Mail (which I found much too limited), to Eudora (what a bizarre interface, at least for me) to Thunderbird, and now to Gyazmail.

Each of these lacks at least a couple of must have features that I used extensively on Pmail. Thunderbird tries hard, but it always seems that the feature that I need most isn't quite finished.

Gyazmail comes close, but still has some gaping weaknesses, like the apparent inability to add addresses to the Addressbook from within the program, and a good Search function.

Ultimately Pegasus was probably best loved by those who live and breathe e-mail, and who need power and flexibility, as well as reliability. yes it was free, but it was one of those programs that I would have paid for because it suited my needs so well.

That's nothing.
I thought of a MythTV box in a DORA office, playing Dora the Explorer videos and sending mail with Eudora to people in Eudora.

If only there was a windows based Outlook Replacement. (Evolution looks perfect but on win32 it's just not ready.) Thunderbird needs a bigger staff. Google, can we get a little help?

Eudora will be based on Thunderbird for its new versions.

Eudora wasn't "set free". Eudora was effectively dumped.

Sure enough, straight from the FAQ:

Why is Eudora moving to an open source development platform?
QUALCOMM has decided not to remain in the email market because it is not in alignment with the core business or strategic goals. By moving Eudora to an open source product, QUALCOMM can exit the Eudora business while still supporting Eudora users and advancing the Eudora e-mail client at a faster pace than before, through the power of the open source development community.

QUALCOMM is also announcing today the launch of the last commercial versions of Eudora, version 7.1 for Windows and version 6.2.4 for Mac.

Why is Eudora moving to an open source development platform?
QUALCOMM has decided not to remain in the email market because it is not in alignment with the core business or strategic goals. By moving Eudora to an open source product, QUALCOMM can exit the Eudora business while still supporting Eudora users and advancing the Eudora e-mail client at a faster pace than before, through the power of the open source development community.

If you read the Penelope page at the Mozilla Wiki, you'll see that the six core members of the project are Qualcomm employees. "QUALCOMM continues to have a keen interest in the users of Eudora, and is being kind enough to donate the time of the above staff members to the Penelope project." Rather than becoming faceless contributors to Thunderbird, they chose to continue the Eudora legacy.

I think Eudora would fit your needs. Its Cocoa version is coming soon and you would like its amazing set of settings.

http://www.eudora.com/

It never failed here. It runs SDI way opposed to MDI while you can use it "tab like" by enabling drawers.

ps: Advertising supported but not spyware if you don't buy it.

• Eudora - OS X and Windows
• Mulberry - Linux, OS X, Windows
• Thunderbird - Linux, OS X, Windows
• Mozilla - Linux, OS X, Windows

After reading your post and staring blankly at the screen for a few moments in disbelief, I can only come to the conclusion that:

A) You're a troll
B) You're drunk
or
C) You work with a bunch of saboteurs that intentionally crash their Treos to get paid downtime.

I've had my Treo 600 for about 2 years, now, and have experienced none of the problems you've described. The GP's description of no more than 1 crash per month is very accurate. Anytime it has crashed, it quickly boots right back up. I've never had to send it in to be serviced.

For those that think that a Palm is just an "organizer" and a PokcetPC is a "pocket computer", don't buy into stereotypes. I use my Treo as a computer. I have an ssh client installed that I use frequently to work on some servers I admin for. The thing came with a capable web browser, but I have many options to install something else, if I want. I also have a Samba client that works great, an FTP client, a VNC Client, and an Instant Messenger. Somebody already mentioned the superb movie player TCPMP, but that's not all, I also have a Video recorder that makes use of the Treo's built-in digital camera. I use a perl script I found to convert the video to mpeg1. I use a Photoshop-like image editor that has support for complex things like layers and blending modes. My Treo is also my mp3/ogg player and I use it to listen to podcasts in the car. I read ebooks and even /. using Plucker. I take audio notes using SoundRec. I even have a Python interpreter, and can code native apps in C right on my Palm. I won't even bother to mention all the games that are available. You can google for them yourself. I've seen apps out there for viewing/editing Word Docs and Excel files, but having never had a need for that, haven't installed them.

If you're stuck on Windows still, then Eudora is probably the best way to go. I'd pay for a Linux version if they had one. Though many others I know also like Thunderbird

In a perfect world, we'd run perfect software. We're not in a perfect world, and most of it uses MS software, so lets patch the holes with the tools we're given. If everyone on the road drives a ford, and fords have X mechanical problem, do you tell people how to fix the problem, or do you tell them to buy a toyota? I mean, be reasonable. maybe NEXT time they'll buy a toyota, but for now, they've GOT a ford.

Options like Mozilla, Firefox, Opera, Thunderbird, Eudora, and OpenOffice.org, to name a few for starters, should at least get a mention. They work here and now, even on MS-Windows. Aren't we talking about technology where we can choose the best tool for the job or is it a religion where we all face Redmond and bleat "yaaaay Bill!" ?

By neglecting to mention better options, even those options usable by MS systems, the site does two disservices. First, it turns an otherwise good idea into a state sponsored marketing campaign for a single vendor. Second, it keeps people in the dark, preventing them from improving their existing systems or to making more informed choices in the future.

Along the same lines, further proactive effort is needed to prevent defective systems from becoming a problem in your cars, television sets, taxes, public records or health care. All ofthis makes a good illustration of why commodity services and protocols are good for the market by preventing lock in.

Plus the advice summary is bullshit:

Install anti-virus software
That's corrective action. How about prevenaitive action like pointing out secure products and warning the public to avoid defective ones? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Keep your anti-virus software up to date
You can't patch fast enough. That includes so called anti-virus software. Someone has to get hit first. AV companies have to then react and update the AV software profile. Then users have to add the updated profile, over a modem that can take time. MS-Slammer reached saturation in 8.5 minutes.

Install a personal firewall
Web pages and e-mail go right through that fire wall, they're supposed to, so do outgoing connections usually. Unfortunately most MS malware comes in via MSIE (the web) or MS-Outlook (mail), so how exactly is a firewall going to help? How about swapping out vulnerable applications and services instead?

Use Windows updates to patch security holes
There are other systems besides MS-Windows. Currently these do not even get viruses or worms. Some of these (e.g. Ubuntu) are easy to install and work on existing x86 hardware. Macintoshes are low maintenance and work out of the box. Unless you're a heavy gamer, you don't need MS-Windows.

Do not open e-mail messages that look suspicious
A virus is only harmless data, unless your system is designed to run it on sight. How about choosing an e-mail client that's not designed to spread viruses. Thunderbird, Mozilla, and Eudora are excellent choices.

Do not click on e-mail attachments you were not expecting
Use one of the above mail clients and/or switch to an operating system not designed to spread viruses.

Yes, and I'm surprised that the mozilla group didn't think of something like this first, though I'm sure we'll see it implemented shortly :)

Some more info (screenshots etc) on the Eudora system can be found at:
http://www.eudora.com/email/features/scamwatch.htm l

I personally use Firefox and have also installed it as the primary browser on all user computers I support (including family and friends). The amount of malware has dropped to almost zero, and what little bit does manage to get through it readily dealt with via Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc.

User education is also important. I've found that to be the case with viruses/worms as well.

Speaking of viruses/worms, in the same context as before, while IE is the predominant target of web-based malware, the predominant target of mail-based malware is, you guessed it, OE. So, don't use it!

I've switched to Thunderbird personally, though prior to that I was a solid Eudora user, which is what I have installed for family and friends. Honestly, if users are tied to the OE interface, Thunderbird should work fine for them. What mail-borne malware still makes it through, that's what antivirus is for.

Finally, look at the other common vectors, including the Windows Messaging service. There are a number of services such as this that should not be on (but are on by default). XP SP2 is highly recommended. Also, if you're on Win2k or XP, check out the benchmark scoring tools and guides available from CISecurity. Some of the recommendations might be too draconian for many locations, but the general advise in the benchmarks is dead on.

Single Sign On (dependent on the environment) can be as easy or as difficult as you and the environment make it. There are a ton of programs that ust block ALL access until sign in, and then they act as a 'proxy firewall' to the differing applications and processes based on a role or security priviledge attached to the account of the user. Most just pass the information in a Header of the requesting page. (ie. Username & Password). This would probably be the easiest method to implement with an LDAP implementation and either a PSP or Java based system. By passing the information of the user in the header, most programs were able to access and use the information without issue.

• Will MS join the bandwagon and jazz up Hotmail (or provide a premium service) that does all the javascript funkiness (drag-n-drop, context menus etc)? They've already done this for exchange web access. If so, is that not kinda shooting desktop Outlook in the foot? Will they fall behind again on this New Thing due to their dekstop blinkers?
• Why do the funky interface thing anyway? A website is a website, and a lot more people are comfortable with the webforms approach to email, because it is a fairly engrained standard (e.g. their online banking is webforms based). Perhaps everyone is being led by the nose by GMail? Never! Fastmail is just one example of thousands of slick webforms-based webmails
• Besides, why not just use IMAP into your rich client of choice.

From a development perspective, it's hard to be in the tool space. O.S.S. contributes to this affect as does Microsoft itself. Why purchase Mind Genius when I can just download and use Free Mind for free? Why purchase Eudora when Outlook Express is already bundled (for typical users) with the machine?

Does OSS hurt I.T., E.R.P., or niche programming? No. In fact, O.S.S. enables development in these spaces dramatically by lowering the barrier to entry.

Ummmm, yea. Mozilla (Windows and Linux), Evolution (Linux), Eudora (Mac). Need I go on?

I had the same experience with Mail -- I let it chug away *overnight* to import my mail. The next day when I tried actually *using* Mail it was too slow compared to Eudora. What a waste of time :(

FYI, Eudora 6.1 now has address book integration. See here

I know that with some MUAs one can specify certain folders for local mail storage, and you can do this with Eudora in particular (you can probably do it with The Bat or maybe even Outlook; I've used neither of those, so I can't say). So install Eudora, and create your shortcuts for each user like in the link. You'll want to create folders on a different drive letter for each user. User #1 gets h:\mail, User #2 gets i:\mail, etc.

Now, install BestCrypt. You have three users, so create three container files. Have each roommate type in their own passphrase. Open each one, mounting each on the drive letter where the icon shortcuts above point to. Ensure that Eudora can get/send mail (look for mtimes on the .toc files for the inboxes if nothing else).

Now create three small batch files, one for each Eudora shortcut from above. In each, you'll have a line with the command for that user's bcrypt container mounting command, then the text in the "Target" from the Eudora icon above after that. Edit the properties of each icon, and point them to the appropriate batch file.

When User #1 clicks his Eudora desktop icon, BestCrypt will fire off, asking him for a passphrase. Then once the container with User #1's mail folders is mounted, Windows will start Eudora, pointing it at the newly mounted drive. It'll check mail, and store everything. When User #1 is done reading his mail, he can either leave his mail container moutned, or right-click the system tray icon and unmount it. (You could alternately create a batch file that shuts down Eudora and then unmounts the container.)

It sounds like a lot of work, but it should take more than 5-10 minutes to set up. And it'll be secure. You can pick many different algorithms with BestCrypt. Using Blowfish with a 256-bit key ought to be just fine for your needs. An alternate solution would be to go on ebay and find some cheap used laptops for your roommates' mail needs. Then you can encrypt your entire filesystem.

-B

Wow, that was the second on topic-post... :-)

For myself, running OS X (Panther), it's:

1. LaunchBar
2. Default Folder
3. ASM
4. LiteSwitch (I use Adobe apps and don't want to learn new selection-tool-switching habits)
5. FruitMenu
6. WindowShade
7. Little Snitch
8. Net Monitor
9. Eudora
10. Mozilla


slide

and for Linux - postfix, squirrelmail, screen, apache, mysql, squid, php, courier-imap, rsync, cvs - in no particular order

posted this list at my blog too - First Ten Programs

no good excuse not to uninstall Outlook from their machine
There is one good reason..
Like Internet Explorer it's part of the OS now. You'll kinda mess things up.

For users who want an industreal e-mail client Eudora is far better than Outlook anyday.

Also some users (*Cough* Rush Limbaugh *Cough*) complain that the massive amounts of e-mail they get kills most e-mail clients.

As Unix experts learnned long ago Pine has no such problems and there is a Windows version.

Mahogany is annother full featured e-mail client that could easly drop in replace Outlook in most cases.
And it's open source.

I think people go out of there way to suggest Mozilla mail over Eudora becouse Mozilla is open source.

But... Mozilla is a web browser and EVERYTHING takes a back seat to that. Including the e-mail client.
If any e-mail client outside Microsofts own Outlook were to support viruses it would be a browser based one and Mozilla is not immune.
Highly unlikely true.. but it's the MOST likely cannidate.

Scribe looks intresting for corprate e-mail.

The point being here there are quite a few alternitives and it might be worth your time to check them out before advocating a client change to your friend or boss.
You'll go a lot farther if you advise a client suted to the needs, environment and culture of the target.

• Built-in OS X Mail.app
  
• Microsoft Entourage (think Outlook/Exchange)
  
• Eudora
  
• Mailsmith (hard core)
  
• Mutt
  
• Pine
  
• Elm...
  

>> Outlook runs my business..., and I have a
>> zero trust factor for Napster...

Do you not care about your business? Try Eudora, because friends don't let friends use Outlook.

As for zero trust for napster, thats great, this isn't Napster, nor is it Napster 2.0.

Does Eudora work on Linux? It's been great on my Mac from back in 1993 or so.

To me the definition of Spyware is any program that spies on it's users for any reason. Targeted adds is just one example. If a program is watching what I am doing and reporting it back to anyone, whether I knowingly installed it or not, it is Spyware. Here's the Jargon File definition.

Adware is software that displays adds as a way to provide the author with a source of revenue. Again, the Jargon File definition.

The Jargon File definitions aren't as clear as mine, but they do support mine.

It can be argued that most Spyware is also Adware, but there are examples of Adware that is not Spyware. Opera and Eudora are both programs that I consider to be Adware, but do not consider to be Spyware. For the sake of companies like this, it isn't fare to lump the two together. I will be writing to both of them encouraging them to speak out on this issue and maybe even sue Gator for tarnishing their reputations.

Gator is trying to clean up its reputation by confusing the issue. This isn't fare to legitimate Adware authors, and I hope someone sues over it. Gator's reputation is well deserved and bullying sites because they state the obvious, only serves to further tarnish their reputation. I make it a point to remove Gator from any computer I work on. This isn't going to change that. If anything it's going to make me insist on it's removal even for users who think it's useful in some way. There is nothing Gator offers that users can't get someplace else, without the Spyware.

My suggestions for the Windows side...

For email I'd definitely recommend Eudora as it can be used free (ad based, but small add window) and isn't suceptible to propagating the many viruses that target Outlook.

As someone previously mentioned, I'd also recommend Opera, again, ad based, but a solid browser and mouse gestures rule!

Someone else also mentioned AVG for antivirus, probably the best option for free antivirus.

CDEX is a great MP3 ripping program that I've always used.

We can't forget Sonique and WinAmp for playing your MP3's. I prefer Sonique but that's just me.

Then of course there's Winzip, Adobe Acrobat, QuickTime, VNC, and ZoneAlarm or BlackIce (all available at download.com). These are all (except perhaps VNC) must have utilities for a Windows box.

Eudora from Qualcomm is a great alternative to outlook. I made my mom use it because I just don't trust outlook.

• Instead of Mozilla, I prefer the leaner Firebird for browsing and Eudora for email. If you take the time to learn how to use the Filters feature, Eudora's pretty good at filtering spam. Especially if you crank up the size of the History of addresses you sent to and store your contacts in the address book. You can then filter messages whose sender "doesn't intersect" your address book or history into a spam folder.
• Instead of WS FTP, I prefer Filezilla, which is truly free (you have to pretend to be a student or a non-profit to use WS FTP for free) and does sftp as well.
• TTSSH is a much less clunky ssh client than PuTTY.

• If you use a Palm, PalmEudora Sync keeps your addressbooks synchronized (which will help with those Eudora spam filters).
• Mark's Adding Machine is much better than the Windows calculator for balancing checkbooks.

Some free, Free and not so free applications:

Webbrowser Mozilla Firebird (Win / linux)
Email Eudora (win) Evolution (linux)
Office suite OpenOffice.org 1.1 (win / linux)
SSH client putty (win) openssh (linux)
Videoplayer VLC (win / linux) or BSPlayer (win) and Xine (linux)
Editor Textpad (windows) Kate (linux)
Chat Jabber PSI (win / linux)
Firewall Kerio (win)
Anti virus F-Secure (not free) (win)

- Ost

I just got a call from the Data Security guy in my office. I've had run-ins with him before, because their scans of my PC would occasionally find that I run Eudora for my personal email rather than routing it through the corporate virus portal known as Outlook Express. My bosses have been supportive -- as long as I get my work done, who the heck cares what I've got installed?

Now, I get 50-100 messages from "helpful" virus checkers telling me that I sent them a virus. Duh, of course I didn't. But what's worse is when they try to help my by sending the damned virus back to me! So my Eudora inbox fills up with viruses. No problem, I just delete them, right?

But we've got real-time virus scanning installed, and the admins take a dim view of tweaking it to skip certain directories. It finds that In.mbx contains a virus and kills the file. Poof, there goes my Eudora inbox. Frustrating, but it was full of junk anyway.

This morning, though, I get a call from the head Data Security honcho. Norton called mommy when it found the virus, and did it often enough for me to show up on the admin guy's radar again. Now, I'm going to have to quit using Eudora at work, just because brain-dead virus protection is sending me viruses! I'd fight it again, but I have to agree -- if I keep downloading viruses, I'm part of the problem.

Thanks for nothing, AV companies. All you're doing is keeping yourselves in business with false virus alerts. Or maybe that was the "2. ???" in between "1. Spread Viruses" and "3. Profit!"

2) I'm not quite sure what you want... More than just sorting by a field? Or a custom filter?

Well, I want what Eudora has, I'm sure others must have it.

The field is called "Who" (rather than "Sender" or "Recipient"). So if I am the sender, the Who field would contain the recipient. If I am the recipient, the Who field contains the sender.

See http://www.eudora.com/email/43/screenshot.html

(outgoing messages are shown in italic to distinguish them from incoming)

It is SO much more useful that having seperate sender and recipient fields.

Other co-workers with Eudora are less fortunate, since they spend better than an hour clearing out all those emails.

Oh sure. Nobody really needs a simple POP/IMAP client, right?

I guess that means Eudora will be getting more business.

Of course on my laptop I just run mail.app

Not that I'm anti-Mozilla (I use it as my primary browser, though I keep IE for IE specific sites). But I wanted to make sure that no one forgets about Eudora, which has a free (well, sponsored by innocuous ads) email program.

Tungsten comes with the Palm Web Browser, and you know what's stupid in it? That it requires a *beep*ing proprietary proxy to work!

I aim my Treo's IR port at the one on my Nokia cell phone with built-in 9600bps modem and get online with no problem. I prefer not getting the images so I can browse faster.

The biggest problem is "clever" webmasters who put in code that checks your browser and refuses to show you any web content if it doesn't recognize it. Morons. Let ME decide if the content is usable.

Yes. The palm itself is not powerful enough to resize the images and render the documents, so they use a mandatory proxy that does the job. I don't know how fast it is, but it's really annoying that the palm can't connect directly.

I hate the concept so much because:

1. AvantGo has to do the same thing, and their proxy is overloaded and many times you must reload. I don't know if the palm thing is different.
2. What if Palm dies? Their proxy will die too and that will render the browser useless.

How do I know that it uses a proxy? If you look at the palm web browser page, you'll see on the bottom of the page that they mention that ports 8827 and 8775 must be open. I can't check if this thing would work without a proxy, because their browser won't work with earlier palms.

I should mention the Palm (III and above?) can do normal TCP/IP as long as you use a modem and not the proprietary web-only palm.NET service (I think it can even listen too but I doubt it can run servers), and there are a couple of palm browsers that access web servers directly without a proxy, like the free EudoraWeb and Xiino. But nobody seems to support them anymore and they got problems: EudoraWeb is very nice but can't load docs bigger than 21k, and Xiino is even nicer than EudoraWeb but it got a very annoying bug with radio buttons (when there are many radio buttons, it makes some of them selected).

I couldn't find any usable browser for palm which doesn't have the problems I listed above, even that I looked a lot. If anyone can recommend me one I'd be very glad, but till then I am really disappointed and frustrated at Palm. I bet that the browsing in the competitors (PocketPC/Zaurus) is much better.

Well according to this page, their email client is KMail, the increasingly popular Outlook -styled-email.

While I applaud their efforts, and I am sure I am nit-picking, wouldn't it be like a Eudora-styled-email-client, or at least an Outlook Express-styled-email-client? I mean Outlook is more like a complete Personal Information Manager (PIM), for better or worse...

While I'm the first to agree that kids ought not to be receiving unsolicited porn email, I am very hesitant to invoke the familiar "save the children" cause in prosecuting spam-- I presume that the bulk of pr0n spam is sent from fairly unprosecuable locations anyway, whether they be sufficiently obfuscated or from a riverboat off the coast of Nigeria.

If I were a parent I'd set up a POP account for the grommet and then whitelist filter incoming stuff at the server anyway.
oh. and use something like eudora and "don't automatically download images" (no email/web bugs). By the time they're smart enough to get around these measures, they're smart enough to be getting their own porn anyway.

In this case, other sites that covered this week's pair of Microsoft worms first -- and they'll cover next week's first, and so on. ZDNet, eWeek, Infoworld, Reuters, the Register and others covered it first. ZDNet has the bad habit however of sliding stories that reflect badly on MS quickly off the top pages and into obscurity.

Worms like sobig and bugbear only affect products with design flaws. Brian Valentine, senior vice president in charge of Microsoft's Windows development, said it best:

Our products just aren't engineered for security.

Check out Eudora Pro and the plugin Spamnix. Both are free to use, but if you register you don't get adware or annoyances.