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Here's some of the excuses:
http://www.expressen.se/nyhete...
Google translate will do a good work of it.

If they *ACTUALLY* wanted to tackle extremism they would quit letting the fuckers out when they complain about their punishments being "too severe" and "racist".

That's exactly what happened in Sweden when an 18 year old migrant dragged a 13 year old girl into a public bathroom and anally raped her, then raped another girl days later. "Boo hoo 2 months is too long!!!" Shit like that is absolutely RAMPANT in Malmo, Sweden, and has been since 2014 when the scum started flooding into the country, but the media will not cover it. Castrate the motherfuckers and let him bleed to death. Until those psychos experience extreme punishment for their crimes, they will continue doing what they are doing. Furthermore, letting them off will only EMBOLDEN them more.

@Coren22: "Yes, conspiracy theories surely explain why he had sex with a woman while she was asleep after she told him no."

Except she couldn't decide what really happened until she discussed it with her friend the police interrogator and the very next day she appeared at a press conference as Assanges press secretary.

Interrogator in the Assange case friend with woman accusing Wikileaks founder.

'Anna Ardin deletes a blog entry on how to get revenge on unfaithful lovers.'

'Swedish chief prosecutor Eva Finné dismisses all charges'

Funny, here in Stockholm the use of the cleaners wall sockets in the newest commutertrains for gadget charging has been common practice for many years. There's now even official stickers showing where they are. Even better, the new bus model that's just being rolled out this summer have two USB charging sockets per double seat (newspaper article in swedish) and one socket at the weelchair spot (shared with any strollers).

A Swedish sports player will be able to testify via Skype regarding assault allegations as to not miss a game on the same day. In contrast, Swedish prosecutors have refused to question Julian Assange using the same methods for over four years.

So no, asking to be questioned over there is not asking special treatment. The fact that this was not done like the norm is the special treatment.
How is it that you think (mistakenly) that he has somehow NOT been mistreated or short changed? How?

He also said that he would go to Sweden for questioning if they could give him some guarantee that he would not be extradited to the US, something Sweden refused to give.
Like you pointed out, it's supposed to be just questioning, how could it be such a problem? It is pretty clear that the questioning is not the problem.

I guess most of us (yes, I'm Swedish) find it much more plausible that the decision came after the court having told the prosecutor that she did not fulfil the reasonability requirement for handling the investigation.

That happened this Tuesday.

På tisdagen bestämde Högsta domstolen att Riksåklagaren ska skicka in en svarsskrivelse i målet. Riksåklagaren ska där förklara hur utredningsarbetet ska fortsätta – speciellt när det gäller frågan om proportionalitetsprincipen.
Enligt principen ska olika intressen vägas mot varandra och åtgärder ska inte gå utöver det som är nödvändigt med hänsyn till ändamålet. Det kan till exempel gälla samhällets krav på säkerhet mot individens rätt till integritet.

http://www.expressen.se/nyhete...

Marianne Ny had no choice after this but to finally do what Swedish prosecutors do all the time - question people abroad.

(Looking at your post history on the subject of Assange your bias is extremely visible)

I know each time the Assange story comes up you like to jump on it because the whole thing is personal for you (I haven't forgotten the last time you lost the plot on the issue, don't worry), but you seem to be making things up that aren't even there, which is a new low even for you. The story states very clearly that he was convicted in absentia, not simply that he was simply awaiting an appeal when he died, using Swedish translations of common words like "prosecute" doesn't add weight to your case by the way, it just makes you look even more desperate in your argument.

"And the British court system has at every level ruled Assange to be in a state equivalent to charged under the British legal system."

What the British court has ruled is that he can be extradited under the extremely lax checks of the European Arrest Warrant, something which is a major bone of contention in the UK and has been the target of much political preference for removal by MPs and precisely because it's such an utterly stupid piece of law in the first place. Pretending stupid law somehow adds weight to your overriding bias that Assange is a rapist is another example of your further highlighting the stupidity of your argument.

"But do you somehow know more about Swedish and British law..."

What I know is that not all these things are in agreement, so to try and stack them together to add weight to your argument is again, a further example of the weakness of your argument. I know for example that the prosecutor your refer to when stating her case in British court actually admitted that Assange could indeed be interviewed and charged here under the MLA framework (exactly like they did for this guy in Serbia: http://www.expressen.se/nyhete...), but simply insisted that she be able to do so in person in Sweden regardless.

What I also know is that whilst I may not be a professor of Swedish law, that professors of Swedish law also completely disagree with you, so your appeal to authority fallacy fails miserably in the face of a similar but opposite appeal to authority:

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/a...

Another thing I know is that the British courts regularly get such human rights issues wrong, they spent 10 years restricting the liberties of Abu Qatada only for him to be found innocent when he finally got to Jordan, and there have been many other cases where British courts got such issues wrong. The idea you're pushing that they consistently get such issues right, and aren't ever swayed by politics is demonstrable false, again, as in the Abu Qatada case. The British justice system is imperfect and easily manipulated by politics, in fact, the whole reason we have a Supreme Court is because politicians wanted an overriding court with a politically appointed judge panel precisely so that politics could play a part in justice, which is yet one more thing that shows how utterly laughable your appeal to authority fallacy is in this respect.

So Rei, I think you should accept what you accepted last time this discussion came up, that this issue is one that is too personal for you, and that in Rei land a man accused is a man guilty is a man convicted is not how things should work in the real world. In the real world we like justice and due process, if that isn't being followed, which it isn't - because the Swedish prosecution are insisting on avoiding processes that could resolve this issue fairly and objectively, then there's a problem.

I really could not care if Assange is found guilty or not, I have no presumption of innocence unlike your presumption and insistence of guilt, I think there's a fair chance he may well be guilty all the same. I appreciate some of the things he has talked about and some of his goals, but that's by the by, I appreciated some of the things Rolf Harris did but it doesn't change the fact it's all overshadowed b

[...], and Gripen proving that it was better at strike missions in Libya.

Err... no.

In Libya the Gripen has only been used for recognition, not for strike.

Why ? Political choice, so they do not risk to kill civilians, and here Carl Bildt said the Gripen was not suitable for strike (which is BS, but an excuse for not to strike).

About Dassault writing the report, I'm interested in anything backing this idea (fact,quotes,...). To me it doesn't look like so.

Actually no.

Researchgruppen is an ultra-leftist organization, run by people who have committed assaults. They are offering a 50 000 SKR bounty for someone to hack the Flashback site to de-anonymize their political opponents there.

These "racist" sites are the ones which post news without Swedish white pixelization and political correctness. However it is true that there are comments which are negative - just like comments in any media outlet.

What Expressen and Researchgruppen did was that they de-anonymized their political opponents. They are also targeting people who have nothing to do with Swedish Democrats, just ordinary people who disagree with the nation wide consensus of immigration and do not want lose their jobs for expressing their opinions.

As a Finnish citizen I am very worried of the state of democracy in Sweden. Swedish media is hell bent to destroy Swedish Democrats and they use any means. Swedish ultra left is extremely violent and seems to enjoy total freedom. It is not the ultra right or racists who do the majority of political violence in Sweden.

Outing political opponents and making a illegal registers of identities breaks Swedish and EU laws. Harassing people because of this also breaks laws, anonymous or not, people have right to express their opinions in the network and ordinary citizens can not expect to be chased by the media or extremely violent political groups because of that.

We Finns always joke how Swedes "Diskuterar" so much of everything but it seems we are little bit outdated on that belief. Swedish media do not want to have civilized discussion and extremist groups are using violence to advance their cause.

Child porn laws are frequently abused to target political and business opponents, as under the U.S. federal law, possession of CP is a strict liability and there are NO affirmative defense allowed on it.

This is a case in Sweden where CP was planted in a politicians machine using a remote desktop software, causing failed re-election, stress, and millions of dollars in legal fees:

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/offer-for-porrkupp/

Sure I've been.

9+3 months may be correct here to. I don't know exactly.

I don't live in California.

The bottom one here says newly built. The one I've been in hasn't looked like that. Each cow have their spot here to but at least it's bright and looks rather clean:
http://www.lansstyrelsen.se/halland/Sv/lantbruk-och-landsbygd/lantbruk/utbildning-och-radgivning/Pages/Okad_djurvalfard.aspx
Maybe not as good as the Californian one but still pretty good.

I can't find any good pictures because googling for the Swedish word for farmyard mostly brings up a bunch of kid toys and what not.

But the ones I'm used to seeing are things similar though maybe a little bigger than this:
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Estlandssvensk_bondg%C3%A5rd_p%C3%A5_Nuck%C3%B6_i_augusti_1993..jpg
Which is rather small scale. And old. Maybe in this case bigger is better rather than the opposite.

The brightness here seem more correct to what I would expect:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article16233191.ab
http://www.expressen.se/kvp/trillingar-i-baset-pa-bondgard-i-knislinge/
http://sverigesradio.se/diverse/appdata/isidor/images/news_images/3762/2372613_520_292.jpg

This is about what I typically would expect from a Swedish farm yard:
http://www.expressen.se/noje/hanna-mjolkar-efter-karleken/

These of similar style to what you linked actually seem like a better idea, at least if the interior looks like this:
http://www.cover-all.se/djurstallar.htm

I don't know if something such would be used during winter time to or not. I guess it's a pain to heat it up. Very little insulation and huge space?

Guess newer is better:
http://www.soderasensmiljoforbund.se/Tillstaandspliktig-djurhaallning.htm

And I guess maybe those ugly closed sheds actually may be better because they are newer, still look rather boring to me:
http://gunnarodsgard.skanemejerier.se/?p=2927

This is more similar to the one you linked to:
http://www.tectum.se/stalbyggnader/lantbruk/

This was a weird picture:
http://www.metro.se/nyheter/52-kor-dog-blixten-slog-ner-i-stangsel/Objhjz!17_3854-45/
It's cattle who has gone towards the fence during a lightning storm in Uruguay but then the lightning hit the fence and killed 52 of them.

Ã-rebro is 59Â 16â 26.2â N, 15Â 12â 48.1â E

Right in the middle of Hudson bay would be the same amount to the north over in north america.

Sure I've been.

9+3 months may be correct here to. I don't know exactly.

I don't live in California.

The bottom one here says newly built. The one I've been in hasn't looked like that. Each cow have their spot here to but at least it's bright and looks rather clean:
http://www.lansstyrelsen.se/halland/Sv/lantbruk-och-landsbygd/lantbruk/utbildning-och-radgivning/Pages/Okad_djurvalfard.aspx
Maybe not as good as the Californian one but still pretty good.

I can't find any good pictures because googling for the Swedish word for farmyard mostly brings up a bunch of kid toys and what not.

But the ones I'm used to seeing are things similar though maybe a little bigger than this:
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Estlandssvensk_bondg%C3%A5rd_p%C3%A5_Nuck%C3%B6_i_augusti_1993..jpg
Which is rather small scale. And old. Maybe in this case bigger is better rather than the opposite.

The brightness here seem more correct to what I would expect:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article16233191.ab
http://www.expressen.se/kvp/trillingar-i-baset-pa-bondgard-i-knislinge/
http://sverigesradio.se/diverse/appdata/isidor/images/news_images/3762/2372613_520_292.jpg

This is about what I typically would expect from a Swedish farm yard:
http://www.expressen.se/noje/hanna-mjolkar-efter-karleken/

These of similar style to what you linked actually seem like a better idea, at least if the interior looks like this:
http://www.cover-all.se/djurstallar.htm

I don't know if something such would be used during winter time to or not. I guess it's a pain to heat it up. Very little insulation and huge space?

Guess newer is better:
http://www.soderasensmiljoforbund.se/Tillstaandspliktig-djurhaallning.htm

And I guess maybe those ugly closed sheds actually may be better because they are newer, still look rather boring to me:
http://gunnarodsgard.skanemejerier.se/?p=2927

This is more similar to the one you linked to:
http://www.tectum.se/stalbyggnader/lantbruk/

This was a weird picture:
http://www.metro.se/nyheter/52-kor-dog-blixten-slog-ner-i-stangsel/Objhjz!17_3854-45/
It's cattle who has gone towards the fence during a lightning storm in Uruguay but then the lightning hit the fence and killed 52 of them.

Ã-rebro is 59Â 16â 26.2â N, 15Â 12â 48.1â E

Right in the middle of Hudson bay would be the same amount to the north over in north america.

Similar comments have been seen in Scandinavia too, from e.g. Ana Maria Narti in tabloid Expressen:

"Varför har vi lagar om religionsfrihet, varför har vi religiösa skolor och varför får religionen plats i det offentliga livet, t ex vid riksdagens högtidliga öppnande? Inte i första hand därför att internationella konventioner kräver det, utan därför att religion utgör en oerhört viktig del i många människors identitet. Det finns folk som definierar sig själva genom tron – vissa grupper av judar, armenier, tibetaner. Vi visar respekt för alla medmänniskor om lagarna, skolan och det offentliga livet skyddar alla individers och alla gruppers identitet. Och lagarna behövs därför att våldet riktat mot tron fortfarande är närvarande mitt bland oss. "

Google translation:

"Why do we have laws on religious freedom, which is why we have religious schools and why religion must place in public life, such as the Parliamentary solemn opening? Not primarily because international conventions require it, but because religion is a very important part of many people's identity. There are people who define themselves by faith - some groups of Jews, Armenians, Tibetans. We show respect for all fellows of the laws, school and public life will protect all individuals and all groups identity. And the laws are needed because the violence directed against the belief is still present in our midst."

Releigious people want to have something to say, in and as part of everyday society too I am afraid. They were essentially kicked out of politics a few centuries ago in the educated world but the recent happenings on the international scene has made religious beliefs "part of an identity"... Sigh...

This is getting dangerous, all over the world. Science has not killed off superstition and vague, wishful ideas.

According to the Swedish newspaper Expressen, at least one of the founders (Mr Neij), currently living in Bangkok, does not intend to evade his sentence.

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/1.2696506/hovrattens-pirate-bay-domar-star-fast

Google translate:

"Fredrik Neij now lives in Bangkok and he is disappointed with the HD's ruling. But he will not stay out of the sentence.
- But I'll probably try to get the punishment commuted, perhaps to electronic tagging or so, says Neij told TT."

Why not start with some of the most well known ones? All published a couple of days before ./ Not sure about the printed versions, but DN definitely had the it. DN, Aftonbladet, SvD, Expressen.

Thankfully they have put down all new paving stone in the city area.

And there will probably be ways around it. The question is why it takes so fucking long for everyone to start using them?

I doubt the average Swede got what it takes to do anything though...

Though some people have proven that they can react:
http://www.svd.se/multimedia/dynamic/00108/16698348_108431b.jpg
http://cdnstatic.expressen.se/polopoly/bilder/2007/02/11/1.454042TS1283934948235_defaultImage.jpg
http://www.fokus.se/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/vfgoteborg.jpg
http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/multimedia/archive/00027/deb221_27196w.jpg
http://www.bioroxy.orebro.se/bilder/terror.jpg

The government has to be reminded who's in charge every now and then ..

The rape charge has been withdrawn now, but in this article one of the women explains how she met the other and they decided to go to the police together: Expressen

You can probably get an intelligible English version by feeding it through Google Translate.

No you are wrong. RTFA you idiot. Assange is arrested for "på sannolika skäl misstänkt" which is the highest suspicion level and allows the prosecution to keep the suspect incarcerated the longest.

We joined the EU and now we can't decide anything of our own.

Also with people letting people like Thomas Bodström be part of the government we're screwed. But he's eye candy! Never mind he decides to not show up for this government duties because he'd rather earn some extra cash doing his second job as a lawyer.

But it seem pretty common that our elected decide that they got something more interesting to do rather than showing up in the parliament.

Depends on what you call MAJOR.
Most of of the large newspapers in Sweden has picked up the story (all in Swedish of course):
http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.1941889/video-pastas-visa-usa-soldater-som-skjuter-ner-irakier
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/video-av-massaker-publicerad-pa-natet-1.1072665
http://www.svd.se/nyheter/utrikes/video-visar-hur-civila-dodades_4525379.svd
Some, like the last one even has it as the first news on their main page. The same page also says that the article are taken from TT the largest Swedish news agency.

Most articles also mention that the video was classified by the US Military. Of course some articles contain the bullshit from the US Military spokesperson.

The second text, signed by 13 MPs, is available in English here at the main author's blog. It's mostly a reply to another piece by the copyright lobbying organisations and the secretary of the Swedish Academy, so it may be a bit confusing if you haven't read that one (which only seems to be available in Swedish here).

Virtually all major swedish newspapers (http://www.aftonbladet.se , http://www.dn.se/ http://www.expressen.se/ http://www.svd.se/ are leading with the "Pirate War" and news that Pirate Bay is back online.

Media coverage have so far been very good, concentrating on the mismanaged raid, suffering of other hosted servers and the fact that the raid was not in line with the popular will.

Swedish state television have also done a news report connecting US lobbying and the swedish minister of justice to the raid, which is seen as extremly bad. Several other politicians and the justice ombudsman have started investigation into the legality of the raid.

Check out the middle image.

Swedes burning their own flag on their national day.. here. Morons.

Who's this "Madeleine" on that newspaper site there? rowr.

A swedish reporter (from Expressen) did this a few months ago.
After a while, he ended up meeting one of the people behind the scam.. in amsterdam. For anyone able to read swedish, the article can be found here.

The best part is definitely the 26th of April.

Back in stockholm
I call Lucas up:
Hi, it's Ingvar
-Where did you go? Are you trying to con me?
Lucas, I'm not who you think I am. I'm a reporter from a large newspaper, I'm just investigating your business.
*silence*
*click*

A swedish reporter (from Expressen) did this a few months ago.
After a while, he ended up meeting one of the people behind the scam.. in amsterdam. For anyone able to read swedish, the article can be found here.

The best part is definitely the 26th of April.

Back in stockholm
I call Lucas up:
Hi, it's Ingvar
-Where did you go? Are you trying to con me?
Lucas, I'm not who you think I am. I'm a reporter from a large newspaper, I'm just investigating your business.
*silence*
*click*

Here's the coverage (in Swedish) from all the four major newspapers:
Expressen
DN.
SvD
Aftonbladet

Some great quotes from Mr BodstrÃm (Minister for Justice) include:
"We have not done this to satisfy the big record companies"
"The police will not come running into people's homes looking for these things"
He is clearly completely clueless. I bet he has no idea that it's even possible to trace people with their IP address.

This law is unenforceable and will not be enforced. The police can't even keep child porn off the p2p networks here, so really, this is ridiculous.
The real enforcers will be Antipiratbyrån, the anti piracy bureau, a group of lawyers representing a number of companies. You can see a list of the member companies here. Most should be familiar to non-swedes too.
This is the only organisation activiely looking for copyright infringement online. (and their efforts so far has been very sporadic, even they have the sense to mostly go after CD bootleg sellers). In practice this all means that if you are careful not to share anything from the member companies of Antipiratbyrån on your favourite p2p network, you will not get caught.

The first semi-official statement from bin Laden: An article (in swedish) in the swedish newspaper Expressen says (13:15 today) that "the saudian dissident Usama bin Laden congratulates those who performed the terror attacks against USA, but denies any involvement, says a person working close with Usama".

The first semi-official statement from bin Laden: An article (in swedish) in the swedish newspaper Expressen says (13:15 today) that "the saudian dissident Usama bin Laden congratulates those who performed the terror attacks against USA, but denies any involvement, says a person working close with Usama".

• Official site for the match
• Brain Games network
• CNN report
• CBS News report
• BBC News report
• The Times
• Financial Times
• Daily Telegraph
• Associated Press
• Reuters
• Britannica India
• International Herald Tribune

• Netzeitung report (German)
• Yahoo.de (German)
• ORF Futurezone (German)
• Financial Times (German)
• Chesslines survey (French)
• CNN en Español (Spanish)
• CNN Italia (Italian)
• BBC Brasil (Portugese)
• Express (Swedish)
• El Comercio Peru (Spanish

According to Swedish press they had hired some external IT consultants to aid on the raid.
The raid was not conducted by the police but by the Enforcement agency.
The software company they raided has some free services like webspace and email, sorta like hotmail, freebox.com.The hacker/cracker had supposedly put up a copy of the files somewhere on freebox.com. The hacker/cracker goes under the 'hacker alias' LEEIF says the press too.
This info from an article in the Swedish newspaper 'Expressen' (in Swedish).

Hotmail Scandal - Sexbuyer identity revealed?

Someone has hacked an email account that belongs to two young prostitute girls and sent out their correspondance on Internet. There is revealed the name and telephone number of many of their clients. "I want only to know if they were prostitutes for real", says a medium director whose name appears on the correspondence.

On Monday the Express revealed that anyone could read other's email at Microsoft's email without entering a password. After that the Microsoft staff took the whole ten hours to fix the problem before it could work safely again. During this time, someone accessed the email account of two prostitute girls, then posted the messages on an anonymous homepage on an american server where who that everyone could read them.

Intimate details
On the homepage is revealed many intimate details about those who wrote the messages. "I am a pleasant and kind person, married, who needs more then what I get at home", writes a man whose name and telephone number appears on the homepage. Many of the persons who wrote to the girls explained that they are businessman who sometimes seek escorts in Stockholm and want to have contacts. The person behind the homepage request readers write email and call the men. A director in a well known medium company appears on homepage. He has written email to the girls and wrote "I am seriously interested in french lessons with you on a continuing basis. Can you tell more about your lessons, it would be nice if you also could attach a picture with the course plan". When the Express contacted him he knew already that his name and phone number was on the webpage "It is horrible and I understand that it is easy to ruin one's reputation" he said. He maintains that he did not buy sexual services and he only was curious to find out if they really were prostitutes.

• Anonymous homepage
• 
  The homepage where the names appearede is on an american webserver there who everyone can log on tanonymously for free. Therefore it is impossible to find out who is behind the page with the sensitive information. "What has happened with Hotmail is regrettable, but it is a whole other thing to take someone else's information and publish it on a website", says Lars Backhans, Microsoft's highest official for Hotmail in the Nordic Countries. "This here is abominable"
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The Swedish newspaper Expressen reports today that the Hotmail security breach has led to some serious consequences in Sweden. Someone used the "security issue" to steal and publish the email of a circle of Swedish prostitutes, containing data about their customers including sexual preferences. One of the customers named is the "leader of a major Swedish company". My Swedish is, ahem, a little rusty, but here is the article. (No, Babelfish doesn't offer Swedish as a source languange.) I saw it reported first at ct News Ticker (in German).

The Swedish newspaper Expressen reports today that the Hotmail security breach has led to some serious consequences in Sweden. Someone used the "security issue" to steal and publish the email of a circle of Swedish prostitutes, containing data about their customers including sexual preferences. One of the customers named is the "leader of a major Swedish company". My Swedish is, ahem, a little rusty, but here is the article. (No, Babelfish doesn't offer Swedish as a source languange.) I saw it reported first at ct News Ticker (in German).