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DARPA money through Mudge
Note that a large portion of the money for DARPA is going to cybersecurity research with Mudge of the L0pht as the DARPA Program Manager.
[1] http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/219725/government_employs_hackers_in_brave_new_scheme.html
[2] http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/08/darpas-star-hacker-looks-to-wikileak-proof-the-pentagon/
[3] http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/07/internet-creators-ask-hackers-help/ -
Re:What game is this from?
A few days ago, Fox News published an article which was thoroughly torn to shreds for being misleading and just plain wrong. That image is from the Fox article, and is an artists rendition of a scene from the game. I presume it was created so as to avoid showing an actual scene from the game.
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Re:meet the new boss
The Supreme Court has long held (since the 1800s) that searches at international borders don't require a warrant.
In addition, the courts have repeated ruled that national security warrantless wiretaps are legal, such as this recent ruling:
Intelligence Court Releases Ruling in Favor of Warrantless Wiretapping
The judges ...concluded that the government's protections and restrictions included in the 2007 procedures were appropriate. "Our decision recognizes that where the government has instituted several layers of serviceable safeguards to protect individuals against unwarranted harms and to minimize incidental intrusions, its efforts to protect national security should not be frustrated by the courts," Selya wrote in the 29-page opinion.He added that requiring a warrant in such cases would probably "hinder the government's ability to collect time-sensitive information and, thus, would impede the vital national security interests that are at stake."
And here are just a few recent examples of why they might need to do so:
Daniel Boyd pleads guilty to US terrorism charges -9 February 2011
Domestic Terrorist 'Jihad Jane' Pleads Guilty to Four Charges - Feb 2, 2011
Stockham requests new attorney - February 05, 2011
Note: This individual is apparently an American Sunni Muslim who tried to attack a Shia Muslim Mosque.
Iranian Book Celebrating Suicide Bombers Found in Arizona Desert - January 27, 2011
Baltimore man accused of plotting to blow up military recruiting station in Md. - Thursday, December 9, 2010
Oregon Bomb Suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud Wanted "Spectacular Show," - November 29, 2010
Faisal Shahzad: 'War With Muslims Has Just Begun' - Oct. 5, 2010
2 MN women charged with aiding Somali terrorists - Aug 5, 2010
U.S. links 8 to Somali terrorist group - November 24, 2009
And here's one for the Canadians that could easily spill across the border: Converts Who Kill -
Re:Sad but not unexpected
The national security wiretaps are legal, and not an abuse of human rights.
They do them because people either in the US, or who come to the US, keep trying to conduct attacks. Just a few recent examples (there are many more):
Daniel Boyd pleads guilty to US terrorism charges -9 February 2011
Domestic Terrorist 'Jihad Jane' Pleads Guilty to Four Charges - Feb 2, 2011
Stockham requests new attorney - February 05, 2011
Note: This individual is apparently an American Sunni Muslim who tried to attack a Shia Muslim Mosque.
Iranian Book Celebrating Suicide Bombers Found in Arizona Desert - January 27, 2011
Baltimore man accused of plotting to blow up military recruiting station in Md. - Thursday, December 9, 2010
Oregon Bomb Suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud Wanted "Spectacular Show," - November 29, 2010
Faisal Shahzad: 'War With Muslims Has Just Begun' - Oct. 5, 2010
2 MN women charged with aiding Somali terrorists - Aug 5, 2010
U.S. links 8 to Somali terrorist group - November 24, 2009
And here's one for the Canadians: Converts Who Kill -
Re:No Time to Worry!
You forgot "Think of the Children."
Well, that's maybe where we differ. I think we need to be adults and think of everybody, especially if Al Qaeda is successful in getting nuclear weapons, which they already have permission to use.
But, if it will make you more comfortable, for the moment lets forget about the children, and see where we stand. We can recap, and maybe you could point out what is actually wrong instead of in essence saying "I don't like it".
I pointed out that the courts have ruled against your assertion that the government's national security wiretapping is illegal, and a human rights violation: Intelligence Court Releases Ruling in Favor of Warrantless Wiretapping
Even the page you linked to noted the EFF defeat on the legal question:
EFF Plans Appeal of Jewel v. NSA Warrantless Wiretapping Case
Court Rules That Mass Surveillance of Americans is Immune From Judicial Review
San Francisco - A federal judge has dismissed Jewel v. NSA, a case from the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) on behalf of AT&T customers challenging the National Security Agency's mass surveillance of millions of ordinary Americans' phone calls and emails.I also pointed out just a handful of the many active terrorism investigations and court cases going on inside the US. This points to a genuine, current, dangerous threat of people being killed by militant Muslim extremists. I assume you don't debate that they are genuine.
Daniel Boyd pleads guilty to US terrorism charges -9 February 2011
Domestic Terrorist 'Jihad Jane' Pleads Guilty to Four Charges - Feb 2, 2011
Stockham requests new attorney - February 05, 2011
Note: This individual is apparently an American Sunni Muslim who tried to attack a Shia Muslim Mosque.
Iranian Book Celebrating Suicide Bombers Found in Arizona Desert - January 27, 2011
Baltimore man accused of plotting to blow up military recruiting station in Md. - Thursday, December 9, 2010
Oregon Bomb Suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud Wanted "Spectacular Show," - November 29, 2010
Faisal Shahzad: 'War With Muslims Has Just Begun' - Oct. 5, 2010
2 MN women charged with aiding Somali terrorists - Aug 5, 2010
U.S. links 8 to Somali terrorist group - November 24, 2009
And here's one for the Canadians: Converts Who KillI then pointed out that this current turmoil started with Al Qaeda's 9/11 attacks, and that according to Bin Laden, he won't stop trying to a
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Re:The USG Wants Two Things From You, Narus
All the actions of our government over the last few years are those of a governement afraid it's own people will rise against it, not one worried about our safety from terrorists, should be clear to almost anyone by now.
No, it's terrorists - that's pretty clear given the limited actions they've taken domestically along with the fact that we continue to change our government with elections, have a free press, free speech, 2nd Amendment rights, are free to work and travel largely as we please (even if there is the nuisance of security checks prior to flights). I'd love to see your version of how this somehow isn't the case.
To the extent they've stopped even a single credible terrorist plot (I haven't noticed they have prevented a single one) all they've managed is to deny me some good clean fun on moving target practice -- it's a total lose-lose.
Not hard to find... really....it's not. I'm guessing you've never looked.
(Just a sample - there are many, many more.)
Daniel Boyd pleads guilty to US terrorism charges -9 February 2011
Domestic Terrorist 'Jihad Jane' Pleads Guilty to Four Charges - Feb 2, 2011
Stockham requests new attorney - February 05, 2011
Note: This individual is apparently an American Sunni Muslim who tried to attack a Shia Muslim Mosque.
Iranian Book Celebrating Suicide Bombers Found in Arizona Desert - January 27, 2011
Baltimore man accused of plotting to blow up military recruiting station in Md. - Thursday, December 9, 2010
Oregon Bomb Suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud Wanted "Spectacular Show," - November 29, 2010
Faisal Shahzad: 'War With Muslims Has Just Begun' - Oct. 5, 2010
2 MN women charged with aiding Somali terrorists - Aug 5, 2010
U.S. links 8 to Somali terrorist group - November 24, 2009 -
Re:No Time to Worry!
The US is the only one allowed to use this tech to abuse human rights, and it really doesn't want to risk losing its lead in technology used for spying on citizens.
You are completely wrong. First off, it's legal, and not an abuse of human rights. (And no, this isn't the first time a court has made a similar finding.)
Second, it's necessary because some American citizens, immigrants, and visitors don't want to live in peace, but have taken up the cause of extremists. (Just a sample - there are many, many more.)
Daniel Boyd pleads guilty to US terrorism charges -9 February 2011
Domestic Terrorist 'Jihad Jane' Pleads Guilty to Four Charges - Feb 2, 2011
Stockham requests new attorney - February 05, 2011
Note: This individual is apparently an American Sunni Muslim who tried to attack a Shia Muslim Mosque.
Iranian Book Celebrating Suicide Bombers Found in Arizona Desert - January 27, 2011
Baltimore man accused of plotting to blow up military recruiting station in Md. - Thursday, December 9, 2010
Oregon Bomb Suspect Mohamed Osman Mohamud Wanted "Spectacular Show," - November 29, 2010
Faisal Shahzad: 'War With Muslims Has Just Begun' - Oct. 5, 2010
2 MN women charged with aiding Somali terrorists - Aug 5, 2010
U.S. links 8 to Somali terrorist group - November 24, 2009
And here's one for the Canadians: Converts Who KillAnd how did this get started? September 11 attacks
If you bother to read bin Laden's 'letter to America', you will see that in order for him to call off his minions, Americans will have to convert to his flavor of Islam, give up the constitution, implement Sharia law (which will mean cutting off hands of thieves, stoning adulterers, no more alcohol (prohibition again), drugs, porn, executing homosexuals, etc., etc., etc.), and many other odious demands.
Ultimately this is about various factions of Islam trying to extend their power by force. It won't go away soon. I suggest you get used to it.
By the way - the Muslim Brotherhood is not helping.
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In case there's not enough here,
there's already a 1000 comments over on fox's website slamming the article. Though, I don't appear to be able to link to them. Stupid Ajaxy website breaking the Internet!
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Re:Free Staters?
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Re:The /. crowd is no better
Can I interest you in some 9/11 Commemorative Coins?
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Re:Why aren't we trying something new? No unobtani
I think the most realistic alternative launch technique is a rail gun like the one the navy recently demonstrated. You could use it at first to launch a scramjet vehicle up to the supersonic speeds it needs to begin working. Later as the technology develops you might be able to launch payloads at orbital velocities directly from the railgun. This would reduce the weight and size of the vehicles, and hopefully their cost along with it.
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No cheerleaders?
This weekend's Super Bowl clash between the Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers will be the first in the game's 45 year history sans cheerleaders.
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Re:IANA's final, not ARIN's final
I'm afraid this explanation would go right over the head of the reporter who wrote this. After facing ridicule in the comments they fixed the absolute worst factual error, which read "Web developers have tried to compensate for this problem by creating IPv6 -- a system that recognizes six-digit IP addresses rather than four-digit ones." But the rest is pretty clueless too. Who knew that HTML and PHP coders were responsible for the IPv6 transition? Besides Fox, I mean.
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Risk vs. reward
The only angle of validity I could believe that the Continental study may have is risk vs. reward behavior. Games tend to emphasize this, and the reward is commonly disproportionately greater than the risk involved. However, in reality, ordinary well-adjusted people recognize that there are consequences for driving irresponsibly. Personally I like to drive fast, and I've got two speeding tickets in my 13 years driving to show for that. On a day to day basis, though, I keep my speed within 10 mph (16.09 kph for the rest of the world) of the posted limit to mitigate the risk of being cited again.
I'm of the belief that games generally improve driving ability, due to common requirements of the two activities such as concentration, environmental awareness, reflexes, and rapid judgment. I know benefits to hand-eye coordination are well-documented in various studies, but I'd be interested to see more research in this area. As regards driving games specifically, I suppose that they would boost confidence behind the wheel. I felt like a driving god when I finally earned the S-class license in the original Gran Turismo. The game had some relevant advice for real-world driving in the license test briefings too.
Also, maybe gamers are simply more honest about their mistakes? This was a survey of 1000 gamers and 1000 non-gamers. Gamers do experience failure on a very regular basis, and discuss those failures pretty openly in my experience. Primarily to overcome them, and progress further in the game, but who knows? Maybe this is habit-forming.
Aaaaand... Fox News is on the case, naturally.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/01/31/study-says-video-gamers-make-dangerous-drivers
Here's Jalopnik's version. At least they provide some context. (Since the Metro version is nowhere to be found.)
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Re:Don't worry big media, the fix is in
Palin has on multiple occasions demonstrated that she has a profound misunderstanding of the First Amendment. I can respect someone I disagree with, but I can't respect someone who would swear to uphold the Constitution (had she been elected Vice President) yet gets such a critical part of it so fundamentally wrong.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2008/10/31/palin/index.html
If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations, then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/05/14/palin-backs-miss-calif-blasts-liberal-onslaught/
I applaud Donald Trump for standing with Carrie during this time. And I respect Carrie for standing strong and staying true to herself, and for not letting those who disagree with her deny her protection under the nation's First Amendment Rights,
https://twitter.com/sarahpalinusa/status/21534515854
Dr.Laura:don't retreat...reload! (Steps aside bc her 1st Amend.rights ceased 2exist thx 2activists trying 2silence"isn't American,not fair")
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But the REAL authorities say...I particularly like FocksNews' report: "...the second biggest star in the universe..."
I bring Focks up merely as ongoing evidence that Rupert Murdoch bet T. Boone Pickins half-a-bill (i.e., $500M, chump change) that he could lower the average American IQ by 25 points in 25 years. And, yes, Murdoch's winning.
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Re:Tin foil hats
I'm right there with ya, buddy. You know, I live just an ICBM's throw away from the Everglades, with all its secret government "training" camps, and ever since Fox News told me (on 1/1/11, no less!) that my astrological sign was changing, I've been afraid to leave the bunker.
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Re:Don't worry
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Re:Dude.
Check out the comments on there.
Careful, you do have to wade through the comments to get some meat and engage people in thoughtful discussion there to get past the knee jerk reactions. I'm a regular poster on there. Keep in mind a lot of the off the wall posts are from both sides of the fence and are mimicing the wacko rhetoric that is headline sensational and not representative of the thoughtful thinking of either side of the fence. Some of it is just people having fun arguing while discussing a touchy subject. But like I said from my first sentence if you actually engage the posters in discussion and ask tough questions and such you can get the meat. Its all of what you make of it.
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Dude.
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Apply this fundraising method for Mars mission!
This funding method might work better than advertising: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/30/nasa-scientist-publishes-colonizing-red-planet-guide/ I'm ordering this book in couple of moths by the way
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Re:Or they flew over a CAFO
If your argument can be used to support very bad things (like "vegetarianism/abolition is bad for the economy") then present more arguments (especially since the prediction that slavery would be bad for the economy was proven false). Let's delve deeper, not be satisfied with superficialities.
The reason I don't eat meat is because I don't want to be eaten. Until I know that an animal wants to be eaten, I'm going to err on the side of safety.
Vegetables are a different matter, because it is their survival strategy to produce fruit that birds eat and fly to other places and excrete seeds that spread the vegetable's genes.
By this logic, root vegetables such as potatoes, carrots, onions, garlic are not ethically edible since you kill the plant. Jains have worked out a whole science of moral eating.
The ultimate goal is to stop eating. Gain energy directly from the sun, or die by self-starvation to demonstrate your mastery of bodily instincts.
But these are voluntary, self-imposed goals; Jainism includes lesser vows (anuvrata) for householders, who can choose to put off ultimate enlightenment until later in this life, or the next.
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Re:TSA Agents
But it is good to remember that, like everybody, they're only human.
No.
"Only human" is telling an off-color joke with your buddies in the lunch room. "Only human" is maybe getting a little drunk and disorderly at the bar on Friday night after a tough work week. Kidnapping your child and getting into a shoot-out with the cops is not "only human", nor is the behaviour of several other TSO's like this guy, this guy, this guy, or this guy. That's sub-human, and is proof that "We the People" have handed over WAY too much authority to these thugs in the airports. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? and all that. -
Re:Enemies of the State
There are many Tea Partiers and people at Fox News who agree with you COMPELTELY on the TSA.
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Glenn Beck HATES the TSA.
I am not a fan of Glenn Beck, though many times I end up watching his show for the same reason car wrecks are fascinating. But I agree COMPLETELY with Glenn Beck on the TSA, which is hard for me to say. Glenn and I share a hatred of the TSA. Source.
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Re:Perhaps.
The federal government already gets the public databases pulled it in to their databases. This is exactly why multiple Fusion centers were set up in almost every state, at least what they are willing to admit publicly from the middle of 2009. Who knows how many they actually have now. They are not part of the federal government, but rather setup by the state and local governments, even though they get federal DHS money to set these up. Since they are not federal agencies, they are not restricted by federal rules for data mining and privacy. They collect information from public sources and private databases (think credit reports, grocery stores, and others that sell their databases), link up with businesses, state and local police and then pass all this up to the federal level such as the FBI and Homeland Security. The FBI and DHS then send down terrorist watch lists, and lists of people that the Fusion centers and law enforcement should monitor in their areas. The stated idea was to allow more data sharing between local law enforcement and federal law enforcement along with the help of businesses. What in fact has happened is that the federal government has gotten around rules about what data they can collect by having it passed to them from another/third party, in this case the state Fusion centers. Technically they didn't mine the data, the states did and they just passed the information along to the federal government. So vast amounts of data is being collected already about the public and what is going on in the US, and most people have no clue at all that this is being done.
The problem with all of this is who the Fusion centers are putting on the terrorist watch list. They have put the ACLU on the watch list in Tennessee, Ron Paul supporters in Missouri, people who vote third party or support them, people who advocate for the Constitution, those who are over friendly, people who buy lots of jeans, owners of certain kinds of historical flags, and other crazy things that have come out. It just insane who the Fusion centers are putting on the terrorist watch list, and the insane criteria being used to put people on the terrorist watch list.
http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1156877184684.shtm
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/dec/22/aclu-bristles-over-terror-list/
http://publicintelligence.net/florida-fusion-center-monitored-bp-protests-ron-paul-events-code-pink/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/23/fusion-centers-expand-criteria-identify-militia-members/
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Fox News, never listen
They couldn't get the simplest article on growing lights correct: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2010/12/23/build-high-tech-indoor-garden-winter/?test=faces
It was so bad I had to actually create a FoxNews account to correct the nonsense. Looks like my comment is still the top one, at that.
I won't trust this Fox News article any further than I could trust the one I linked. They seem to enjoy using outdated stuff AND they love to not cite any deep sources.
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Re:The Democrats don't help
"We need a Fairness Doctrine for the internet. For example maybe you'll visit foxnews.com and a popup will ask if you want to read democrat.org too. We need to include that as part of net neutrality and other FCC regulations."
[citationneeded]. I can't find any record of a quote like this.
"We need to pass a law to remove MSNBC and FOXnews from cable television." The latter came from a Congressman Kennedy who is a nobody
I can find a Kennedy who has opinions on MSNBC and FOXnews, but he isn't a Congresman, and he does not appear to be calling for censorship. George Kennedy - former managing editor at the Missourian and professor emeritus at the Missouri School of Journalism. He says:
"I’m not arguing that our traditional approach to journalism is inherently superior to the ideological model. After all, that model has served Great Britain and much of Europe pretty well for a long time. But it’s sure not what we’re used to, and confusing to many, even within the industry.
For us consumers, the important thing to remember is this: Fox and MSNBC are playing by different rules than the broadcast networks or NPR. If you like your news straight up, you’ll prefer the latter. If you like it with a twist, you know where to look."
There was a Senator Rockefeller who said:
“There’s a little bug inside of me which wants to get the F.C.C. to say to Fox and to MSNBC, ‘Out. Off. End. Goodbye.’ It would be a big favor to political discourse; to our ability to do our work here in Congress; and to the American people, to be able to talk with each other and have some faith in their government and, more importantly, in their future.”
A lamentation of ideologically driven news media - quite different from the claim that he is actively seeking laws to shutdown ideological news organizations.
And then of course there's Obama himself who gave a college speech advising them not to read the internet news sites and only listen to WH press releases
What he actually said:
The class of 2010 is "coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don't always rank that high on the truth meter," the president said, earning an honorary doctorate of laws degree during the ceremony.
"And with iPods and iPads; and Xboxes and PlayStations -- none of which I know how to work -- (laughter) -- information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation. So all of this is not only putting pressure on you; it's putting new pressure on our country and on our democracy
With so many voices clamoring for attention on blogs, and on cable, on talk radio, it can be difficult, at times, to sift through it all -- to know what to believe, to figure out who's telling the truth and who's not. Let's face it, even some of the craziest claims can quickly gain traction. I've had some experience in that regard,"
Funny that you interpret it as an attack on freedom, when even FoxNews acknowledged that this bit of the speech was a reference to some false internet rumours: "Obama has endured some nasty rumors at the hands of the Internet. Blogs and comment pages continue to allege that the president has not been honest about his place of birth -- Hawaii -- or about his religion -- Christian."
So if there's confusion by Republicans, it's because of what they are he
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Re:We borrow money from China to fund corn...
Control Government Spending or Face Apocalyptic Pain
The problem with that article is that Coburn is a fucking idiot.
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Re:Maine is the Same
Michigan has some other bad laws in place. Apparently, it is considered a crime to use someone else's public wifi network without their express authorization. There was a case where a guy used a coffee shop's free wifi, but from his car and not from inside the store. He was charged with a felony and he ended up pleading to a $400 fine and 40 hours of community service. I'm not sure how much discretion the prosecutors have in a case like this, but I definitely fault the legislature for making something like this a felony that could be punished by 5 years in jail.
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Re:We borrow money from China to fund corn...
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Re:Traitorware?
If you ever want to work on Madison Ave, you'll have to do better than that. I believe the word you want is homicide bomber... As seen on TV. It's got a nice catchy ring to it.
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Re:What a suprise
To balance the crazy left-wing nutcase view of huffington post here is the opinion of one of the FCC commissioners who is against the proposal:
If you want to actively counterbalance it, here is how Fox is reporting the same event:
"FCC Approves Plan to Regulate Internet WASHINGTON -- The Federal Communications Commission on Tuesday approved a plan to regulate the Internet despite warnings that it could strangle industry investment and damage an economy that is still struggling to recover. The 3-2 vote fell along partisan lines with Democrats capitalizing on their numerical advantage...
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Re:Backlash
Speaking of FOXNews, here's something from them on net neutrality. It might surprise folks here, should they care to read it.
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Re:Unsurprising...
Who knows? If it's explained honestly to people, they will care. And you might be surprised about Fox: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/21/need-care-net-neutrality/ In terms of harm that the media causes, I think Fox is a relatively small player because most know they're full of it. As opposed to, say, the NYT http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5631882395226827730#
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Information is the best perspective
Funny enough, if you look at the bottom of another heavily slanted Fox article, you can find some actual information. The details seem much better than hinted at in the Huffington Post.
The rules would require broadband providers to let subscribers access all legal online content, applications and services over their wired networks -- including online calling services, Internet video and other Web applications that compete with their core businesses.
But the plan would give broadband providers flexibility to manage data on their systems to deal with problems such as network congestion and unwanted traffic like spam as long as they publicly disclose their network management practices.
Senior FCC officials stressed that unreasonable network discrimination would be prohibited.
They also noted that this category would most likely include services that favor traffic from the broadband providers themselves or traffic from business partners that can pay for priority... The proposal would
... leave the door open for broadband providers to experiment with routing traffic from specialized services such as smart grids and home security systems over dedicated networks as long as these services are separate from the public Internet.Public interest groups fear that exception could lead to a two-tiered Internet with a fast lane for companies that can pay for priority and a slow lane for everyone else.
The plan would prohibit wireless carriers from blocking access to any websites or competing applications such as Internet calling services on mobile devices. It would require them to disclose their network management practices too.
But wireless companies would get more flexibility to manage data traffic as wireless systems have more bandwidth constraints than wired networks.
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Who won?
Well pro-corporate right wingers. You've won again.
The pro-corporate right-wingers are calling this a coup d'état by the left, based on the same level of speculation without the actual order details on which the left is characterizing it as a sell-out to industry.
Maybe, just maybe, before characterizing who won, we should find out what is actually ordered?
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Re:Get Some Perspective!
Commenters here and at Huffington Post are seriously suggesting we have a second American Revolution because you didn't get everything you wanted on a Net Neturality policy change?
Right, and on the other side, Fox News is publishing an opinion piece labelling this a "coup d'état".
The funny thing is that none of the people publishing these radical perspectives actually know what is in the order being voted on.
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Re:What a suprise
Have you heard the Tea Partiers and Conservatives on this issue? They're braying about "government takeover" and calling net neutrality an assault on basic liberties.
Sometimes they're being that restrained, but other times they're also going much further, and calling it a coup d'état
:President Obama’s Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has fittingly chosen the darkest day in 372 years to impose potentially devastating regulations on the up-to-now free market Internet.
As the moon was eclipsed earlier today, Congress and the American people will be eclipsed by this regulatory coup d'état -- orchestrated by the White House -- that will substitute the judgment of three Democrats at the FCC for the legitimate democratic process.
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Re:Obsolete
Proposed to be changed.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gbLR9rd2uUzbSFy6SMkIYJZ2y7PA?docId=ccc0ce3ccf8146c48ea9a496ce852576
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/24/AR2010112401239.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/24/ap-exclusive-color-coded-terror-alerts-end/
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Re:Overthinking it
Ohh... didn't pay attention to the source.
Well, Maybe this isn't true. But it might be. You never know with fox.
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You mention "Fox".
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Re:now..
Say, if Yahoo is laying off so many people, why are they trying to hire contractors and such?
Because of uncertainty about the future:
This is the first entirely "temporary help service" job recovery. Our current "recovery" might be in its seventeenth month, but the few new private sector jobs have come from companies temporarily hiring staff on a contract basis. What were once jobs reserved for people hired to cover seasonal demand or permanent employees on sick leave have become the standard employment for many workers. Companies simply don't want the risk of hiring workers that they might soon have to get rid of. Since the recovery started in June 2009, the total number of private sector jobs has increased by 203,000. But these weren't "regular," permanent jobs. Indeed, permanent private sector jobs fell by 257,000.
The explanation behind temporary job creation is pretty simple: uncertainty.
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Re:Seriously?
Fox news disagrees: Billionaire Soros Pays for Additional Reporters for NPR Partner Initiative
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Re:Fox News is fine...for news
People have to separate the channel as a whole from the actual news shows. Their actual news is fairly decent and objective.
Do you mean "decent and objective" like the Fox & Friends legal analyst who criticized the Senate for failing to pass a bill providing health care for 9/11 first responders, yet never once mentioned that every single one of the votes against bringing it to cloture were from Republicans?
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Re:Fox News is fine...for news
As an example of bias, compare the Fox News article on today's House Judiciary Committee's hearing on Wikileaks to The Hill's coverage.
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Re:Two years...?
A VERY interesting article with a lot of detail from (I know) Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/26/secret-agent-crippled-irans-nuclear-ambitions/ A bit more detail that I'd read elsewhere. I strongly encourage everybody to read this. Quite an admirable job. But then you think that of course this could happen to control systems in the US as well. We all know countries and organizations that might be happy to attack. I'm sure this sort of thing will only grow in the years ahead.
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You seem to have left out some important details, including, oddly enough, the title of the story.
Pentagon: New WikiLeaks Doc Dump Endangers Lives of Iraqi Informants
Lapan said Pentagon officials don't expect any huge surprises from the scheduled dump of classified "significant activities" documents by whistleblower website WikiLeaks, but he repeated his warning that releasing the identification of individuals who worked in close cooperation with U.S. and allied forces puts their lives at risk.
"We know terrorist organizations have been mining the leaked Afghan documents for information to use against us and this Iraq leak is more than four times as large. By disclosing such sensitive information, WikiLeaks continues to put at risk the lives of our troops, their coalition partners and those Iraqis and Afghans working with us," Lapan said in a statement.
Of course, there is another article that people should see...
Taliban Seeks Vengeance in Wake of WikiLeaks
After WikiLeaks published a trove of U.S. intelligence documents—some of which listed the names and villages of Afghans who had been secretly cooperating with the American military—it didn’t take long for the Taliban to react. A spokesman for the group quickly threatened to “punish” any Afghan listed as having “collaborated” with the U.S. and the Kabul authorities against the growing Taliban insurgency. In recent days, the Taliban has demonstrated how seriously those threats should be considered. Late last week, just four days after the documents were published, death threats began arriving at the homes of key tribal elders in southern Afghanistan. And over the weekend one tribal elder, Khalifa Abdullah, who the Taliban believed had been in close contact with the Americans, was taken from his home in Monar village, in Kandahar province’s embattled Arghandab district, and executed by insurgent gunmen.
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As of the middle of October, even Fox News admits no one has been killed in Aghanistan because of the War Logs.
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