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I guess they don't want the thousands of gentoo users to participate.

Hey now, don't take it personally. That's not what it's about. It's just a matter of prioritizing our limited resources. I would love to add Gentoo to our list, and in fact foser has expressed an interest in teaming up. We just need to find the time to get all the pieces put together.

BarbieOS is what pre-adolescent girls want in a mobile Linux.

Heh, there's a Linux like that already. It's called Gentoo Linux.

Gentoo is patching the nVidia drivers successfully for 2.6.0-test5 for me, you might want to look at their
patchset (look in the files directory).

KDE takes 20 seconds to start up and each application takes a couple of seconds to load.

Prelinking the libraries and applications is supposed to help in this area. See the Gentoo guide to prelinking for more details.

Hmm,
Linux or BSD for PPC?

Why, that's crazy enough to work.

Would this be a good answer?

Just incase nobody else mentioned it.... http://gentoogames.com/

Access to ISO's via ftp/ bittorent

America's Army + Castle Wolfenstein
I especially recommend Castle Wolfenstein, 87.3% guarantee you will like it if you give it a chance.

More about gentoo games here http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030519-newslet ter.xml.

No, you don't need to be using Gentoo.

Are avalible from SuSE, Gentoo, and Debian!

SO if you are complaining "theres no 64 bit os yet", stop complaining, leave the evil empire behind and see the REAL power of opensource.

Gentoo is very close to slack except that I am up an running in 20 minutes after inserting the CD for install, Gentoo REQUIRES a broadband connection to install it, slackware can be installed without a connection to the internet.

Note: A complete Gentoo Linux 2-CD set contains the Gentoo Reference Platform, which is a complete pre-built Gentoo Linux system including GNOME, KDE, Mozilla and OpenOffice. The Gentoo Reference Platform ("GRP") was created to allow rapid Gentoo Linux package installations for those who need this capability. The "compile from source" functionality, which is the cornerstone of Gentoo Linux, will always be a fully-supported installation option as well. The purpose of the GRP is to make Gentoo Linux more convenient for some users, without impacting Gentoo's powerful "compile from source" installation process in any way.

It's been in the tree ( or at least the ~x86 tree ) since at least thismorning.

DarwinPorts is TCL-based, just as Gentoo Portage is Python-based, so neither of these are really BSD Ports. For a real BSD Ports, the system must be based on Makefiles, not Portfiles or ebuilds.

The NetBSD Packages Collection "pkgsrc" claims it can run on Darwin because it is cross-platform. It is based on Makefiles. However, I don't know how well it works on Darwin.

With an OS where you can compile your own apps.

You don't remember the Gentoo/Unreal Live CD?

Unreal Tournament 2003 Gentoo Live CD

Posted on 16th September 2002 by drobbins

Epic Games' much-anticipated Unreal Tournament 2003 Demo is now available on a self-booting Gentoo Linux-based LiveCD, allowing you to play the Unreal Tournament 2003 Demo using any modern PC with an NVIDIA GeForce 2 or greater graphics card and a CD-ROM drive. Full networking, OSS sound and Creative Soundblaster Live! and Audigy support included, allowing for the full gaming experience including LAN/Internet play, EAX environmental audio and of course 3D accelerated OpenGL graphics. The CD also serves as a fully-functional Gentoo Linux installation CD. You can download the CD using this link.

"Aside from the CPU and northbridge, the chips involved are standard components, and should be familiar to anyone who knows PCs. This is an early revision, not sporting evidence of Firewire (though there are some mysterious pin-headers lurking about) or RAID, but you can see a Via 686B handling sound and legacy ports, and the usual surface-mounts backing up the Ethernet and perhaps USB 2.0. What's that big one marked 'Radeon?' :-D (Speculation says it may be a Mobility Edition, which would bode well for both power consumption and board size -- those pack their own RAM in the package.) Everything else is definitely wait-and-see; I have to wonder if they really meant 'Cardbus' instead of 'CF.'

"Obviously it's no alternative if Windows is your thing, but Linux is available -- in fact, it's the only option until AmigaOS 4 ships. Debian, SuSE, and Yellow Dog are known to run and have accepted patches for the platform (outdated product pages to the contrary; AmigaOnes have no relation to last-generation APUS hardware), and Gentoo is at least in-progress. Users who like their penguins cool *and* fast take note; benchmarks are thin on the ice right now, and RC5 numbers are by no means a good comparison, but the G3s were cranking those without an unfair boost from Altivec.

Oops, step 3 should have been to run the addpatches script. It expects your kernel source to be at /usr/src/linux/.

Also, r7 has the addon patches already so you shouldn't need them. I'm using r5, so I added them manually.

BTW, the ebuilds are viewable here.

The latest gentoo-sources patch for 2.4.20 can be downloaded here. Warning - really huge directory listing if you browse all the files.)
Addon patches that update this one can be downloaded here.

1. Decide if you want the aavm or rmap VM. If you want aa, delete the files ending in .rmap (and vice versa)
2. I followed what the ebuild script does and deleteted the patches starting with 1, 6 and 8.
3. Apply the addon patches in the order that they're listed in the ebuild script.
4. Run your normal make menuconfig/xconfig and turn on the desired options like Preemptible Kernel and Low latency scheduling. I have Timer frequency (HZ) set to 200 since I only have a PII 450. Some people set it to 500 or 1000 for faster CPUs. I also use supermount and grsecurity.

Some people like the gaming-sources for pure speed but fewer features. The pfeifer-sources are the most bleeding edge patches that eventually become gentoo-sources after testing. Read about the different patches here.

The latest gentoo-sources patch for 2.4.20 can be downloaded here. Warning - really huge directory listing if you browse all the files.)
Addon patches that update this one can be downloaded here.

1. Decide if you want the aavm or rmap VM. If you want aa, delete the files ending in .rmap (and vice versa)
2. I followed what the ebuild script does and deleteted the patches starting with 1, 6 and 8.
3. Apply the addon patches in the order that they're listed in the ebuild script.
4. Run your normal make menuconfig/xconfig and turn on the desired options like Preemptible Kernel and Low latency scheduling. I have Timer frequency (HZ) set to 200 since I only have a PII 450. Some people set it to 500 or 1000 for faster CPUs. I also use supermount and grsecurity.

Some people like the gaming-sources for pure speed but fewer features. The pfeifer-sources are the most bleeding edge patches that eventually become gentoo-sources after testing. Read about the different patches here.

Here is the Debian rpm package.

Here is a Gentoo ebuild.

Gentoo has gone a long way towards faster booting already. It doesn't have compiled boot scripts, but it has a much more sophisticated runlevel management system than is described in the article. It has real dependencies and whatnot, and boots very very quickly.

Here is Gentoo's own explanation..

Pretty swanky really, and very easy to use.

I have written a worm that exploits a critical hole in dpkg. If you do not mod this up I will release it. Serves you right for using out of date software! (Even Unstable is obsolete), you can backport all you like, but you can't polish a turd.

(Reposted because a Crapian zealot is abusing his mod points, metamods, please help!)

Yeah right zealot! Stop advocating your useless obsolete software. Even the geeks have seen the light and have switcthed

You should too! Debian is a time bomb waiting to happen!

There's no ebuild pushed out for it yet, but the second link describes a workaround. (Haven't tried it yet, but will in the near future.)

There's no ebuild pushed out for it yet, but the second link describes a workaround. (Haven't tried it yet, but will in the near future.)

If you like a vanilla-Python then try Portage for Cygwin and you'll have only packages you really need.

If you just need Zope (with Plone) then try Plone for Windows installer or Zope Windows installer, either way as far as I remember it has Python inside in a an exelent shape to run everything as complex as Zope and Plone.

If you like a vanilla-Python then try Portage for Cygwin and you'll have only packages you really need.

If you just need Zope (with Plone) then try Plone for Windows installer or Zope Windows installer, either way as far as I remember it has Python inside in a an exelent shape to run everything as complex as Zope and Plone.

Well, like i said i have no patience for this kind of stuff. But anyways i just went back to ATI's Driver website section, selected linux in the first box, picked Graphic Driver in the second, picked Radeon 9800 in the third. Looks like there's something for Xfree 4.3, oh wait damn .rpm! And i never clicked on those eh. I don't have rpm installed and i'm not planning on installing it either.

downloaded the drivers for my card, unpacked them, make, make install

I'd like to know where you got the packages. feel free to point me in the right direction, I haven't seen anything close to that on their website back then, and i'm still not seeing this on their website either. I got stuck with a gentoo distro with no hardware acceleration, because gentoo didn't have an ebuild for the card i had and because i couldn't get my hands on the source in a reasonable amount of time.

Now I just went to the gentoo portage listing. Oh a new ebuild :)

Like i said, they might work now, back then i got frustrated and gave up on playing at work ( lol might be good thing! ).

Anyways, it was a real mess. I never thought for one instant that it would remain that way but i still question ATI for only releasing a RPM and no source, why? Do I have to call them to get it or what ? if so .. it's pretty lame.

NX ebuilds for Gentoo have been made available by Stuart Herbert. A NX client version also exists for the original Linux distribution that comes bundled with the Sony Linux Kit.

Any directory tree a user should be able to write to (/home and /tmp /var), should be on a separate partition and use disk quotas. Portage uses /var/tmp to compile files so that partition should be large. This reduces the risk of a user filling up your "/" mount point.

Same here. And if I want to lock down a computer, I'll use grSecurity on Gentoo and probably some chroot jails.

That's what we settled on. The entire rest of our world is Apple PowerBooks, iBooks and Gentoo boxen (except the internal web server -- it's an old RedHat machine).

We tried and tried and tried all the other IMAP servers, since we had to support Outlook XP, only UW-IMAP seemed to work with TLS and Outlook.

I would not want to run Gentoo on my mailserver. I want fast, fire and forget. I love Gentoo and OS X on my G4 PowerBook, on my desktop and even in the server and testbed farms.

Not email.

Not for a while.

Don't listen to the people that assume it's a bear in production. It makes life so much easier. First of all, here is everything you will need to get a courier-imap server up and running with SSL and Postfix and MySQL and Mailmail and Squirrelmail.

Virtual Mailhosting System Guide

I can vouch for this system because I did it and use it. Works wonderfully. The client had no use for Mailman, so I didn't install it. The client also only had 4 company domains he was concerned with, so he isn't taking full advantage of the virtual hosting aspect of the system. Smart choice going with Gentoo. Keeping the machine up to date is so easy, the client is doing it. Just a small bombshell to avoid, don't use Reiserfs unless you don't want to support quotas. This customer had a need for quota on the same server and I had to go through hell tracking down the patches for Reiser quota and getting them installed. Chris Mason was VERY helpful when I had problems. THANKS CHRIS!

Gentoo has a HOWTO using various packages here.

then use a mirror, genius...

Whew! Now that I've come clean about that, my family can accept me back again.

I've downloaded gigs and gigs of stuff.

Some applications, like OpenSSH, have keychain functionality too.

As to the number of packages, let me refer you to this URL:
Gentoo list of packages

The current count was 5280 when I last checked. Computation of percentage is left as an exercise for the reader. ;)

And, as always, users are encouraged to submit their own ebuilds for any packages that aren't in the portage tree yet.

Thanks to the static IP:
- Host my development shit
- Host my imode services for access with my crappy imode phone
- Subscribe to a few hundred mailing lists
- Webcam with family and friends
- Free phone on the modem w/o going through weird VoIP shit
- Fast browsing
- Always on
- Only 30 / mo
- emerge -up world
- I don't watch TV but a few friends happen to record on their PC, and send me clips sometimes. Quite nice.

I keep upto date with KDE from CVS (using Gentoo's excellent KDE CVS ebuilds) and noted, along with the large number of changes, that in the last week or so the default splash screen has been changed to the group photo.
It's nice an' all, but could we have it changed back please? :)

Just like the 2 guys on the left I was also like "whoa, there's a girl here. how'd she get in?!?! *stares*" (mrgreenfur).

Kudos to the KDE Developers too, some good work going on.

Open-source anti virus software.

At least you can run a Mainstream OS on it.

emerge posfix courier-imap
# edit three lines of /etc/postfix/main.cf as
# described in the article
/etc/init.d/postix start
/etc/init.d/courier-imap start
# start sending and reading mail

I followed this guide to setup a an email server with multiple virtual domains, using a combination of postfix, courier-imap, and other cool stuffs.
Users are managed using a mysql database and some PHP tools I wrote.

I'm also not sure what he means by "company", because as far as I'm concerned Gentoo Technologies, Inc. has the legal status and enough products for sale to qualify as a company... and the only Linux company that has made any money off me is Mandrake.

I'm also not sure what he means by "company", because as far as I'm concerned Gentoo Technologies, Inc. has the legal status and enough products for sale to qualify as a company... and the only Linux company that has made any money off me is Mandrake.

SCO are just a pack of lying shits.

TWW

The Gentoo People and an AC the previous SCO thread beat me to it. There's a very interesting discussion over at LWN, in which Bruce Perens points out that Caldera has put that code under a free licence.

... or maybe they're punishing AMD for assisting Linux? ( SuSE Enterprise and Gentoo ( near the top of the page ) )

AMD simply doesn't DARE make AMD64 chips in volume until MS releases an AMD64 version of their OSs, and delaying the SP that coincides with AMD64-capability-in-MS-Windows means knocking-out a, what, a half-billion bottom-line $$ from AMD?

.. and yeah, I realize Gentoo's doing it on their own, but it must burn MS to see Linux gaining ground on kit that MS didn't authorize, and this'll hurt AMD deeply more than it'll give-ground to Linux, IF AMD obeys and doesn't release quantity AMD64 processors until MS allows it to...

And No, I don't believe for an instant that that could be the primary motivation, but it could have been an internal-to-MS political tipping-point, since that is the way authority-politics works...

There seems to be nothing of value here. As pointed out by Starborn this comment goes at least as far back as BSD 2.11, which, according to the file, is from subr_rmap.c 1.2 (2.11BSD GTE) 12/24/92

...

The linux version is slightly modified with some differing variable names, but the algorithim seems to be nearly identical.