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I just had a look for myself now to see if it was still active, this is a little worrying: http://www.gimpshop.com/uninst...

Says the advertising stuff can be disabled though but I'm always suspicious.

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Ech, whatever happened to a regular installer?

What ever happened to GimpShop?
http://www.gimpshop.com/

Thanks for reminding me that this existed. Wish my distro had a package for it. Not that hard to build from source, but a bit tricky to replace the default version. Maybe this time I'll try installing it in my ~/bin and leaving the version installed by my distro alone.

I tried to like The GImp, it is an amazing app, no doubt about that, but I agree, the UI is.. awkward.

What ever happened to GimpShop?
http://www.gimpshop.com/

I'll admit part of my issue with The Gimp is the long history of using Photoshop 5,6,CS and having to try adapt to their UI - just not happening.

Paint.net for Windows is very cool though still too feature limited but it has potential, very slim, fast, even follows the Windows colour scheme (yay!) - I hope it eventually has most of Photoshop CS's featureset.

100% agree!

If businesses were smart they all would chip in $10 say towards LibreOffice, Inkscape, Krita, FreeNAS, GimpShop, etc.

They could be free of the tyranny of proprietary vendor-lock file formats for once and for all. But yet they would rather pay to suffer ! **shrugs**

Could you image how much development could get done if open source alternatives to X could get funding!? Not say money is a silver bullet TM but it certainly would go a long way!

GIMPshop is BACK!!!

What almost kills me is that there's a version of GIMP that has been altered to look and feel just like Photoshop... but what really almost kills me is these "power users" that have such a need for photo manipulation on the go that they need to have Photoshop installed on every device they own right down to their phones... and what actually kills me is that they only use Photoshop for adjusting brightness and contrast on their crummy snap shots, and making boobs look bigger in some of their pr0n pics. Kills me... the entitlement these little fucking nouveau nerds that spend countless technical hours working to something working that even when it's working its not worth a fucking thing... then they fucking post it on slashdot and expect some kind of "hey wow." Well... I'm sick of it... how about no "hey wow?" How about a "go fuck yourself, you fucking waste of oxygen?"
 

Not to mention they spent that effort duplicating something that has already been done years ago by GimpShop:

"It shares all GIMP's advantages, including the long feature list and customisability, while addressing some common criticisms regarding the program's interface: GIMPshop modifies the menu structure to closely match Photoshop's, adjusts the program's terminology to match Adobe's, and, in the Windows version, uses a plugin called 'Deweirdifier' to combine the application's numerous windows in a similar manner to the MDI system used by most Windows graphics packages."

For those that aren't completely retarded and yet still unwilling to learn a new interface, there is a GIMP plugin to make its UI approximate Photoshop

http://www.gimpshop.com/

And a set of downloads to make it behave like PS. They are of course mutually incompatible, but probably you would run into copyright issues making a program that exactly duplicated another program's UI and functionality. I further submit that it is somewhat unreasonable to desire or expect that from F/OSS.

http://laptoplogic.com/resources/configuring-gimp-2.6-to-replace-adobe-photoshop

The above article also refers to an alternative to GIMPshop called GimPhoto: GIYF.

I don't make my living making images, but I make LOTS of images for web. I used to use PS all the time before I dove into Linux. It takes me twice as long to do anything in PS than in GIMP, because I've learned how to use GIMP. I even used to use GIMPshop to ease my transition from PS to GIMP, and now I don't need it anymore. I have yet to find a PS plugin (that's worth using) that doesn't work in GIMP, brushes are compatible, etc.

Photoshop is a UI nightmare for me, but I suppose I adapt to my environment quicker than most. I love showing up PS kids with GIMP skills too :)

I can't stand the interface either. Have you tried GIMPShop?

We do need a PS replacement that isn't so damn annoying. Imagine if the KOffice, OpenOffice and GNOME Office document writer apps were a white window where your typing went and each tool bar a separate window. People would hate it. PS/GIMP is no different.

There's a fork that combines everything into one window.

Oh, GOD, do we even need to start making a list of programs with crappy, non-standard UIs? I can think of GIMP, Blender, most jukebox progs, etc... just off the top of my head. There have been some serious genius coders contribute to OSS, but it doesn't really take a genius to apply standard methodologies to building the UI. Something kind of like the Apple User Interface design guidelines would stop a lot of this bullshit from happening in the first place.

"Thankyou, sUp3rK0d3r. We really appreciate your contribution to the distro. You did follow the Linux UI Standards 3.2 didn't you? No? I'm sorry, we really can't have our distro looking like a kindergarten project. All the apps have to give a unified "user experience". Maybe you could change the UI in time for our next release in 6 months. Goodbye. *whisper* loser */whisper*"

The arguments from the Blender and GIMP devs about their UIs just come across as unwarranted arrogance. One of the best "remakes" of GIMP is GIMPshop, where it was re-skinned to be very "Photoshop compatible". Maybe someone could do something like that for Blender. They may be masters of code-fu, but their UI (and PR) skills suck. Badly.

Hi,
Firstly if you're looking for opensource app replacements you can always try www.osalt.com.

Personally I'd try:
Photoshop: GIMP or GIMPShop or Krita
Illustrator: Inkscape or XaraXtreme
InDesign: scribus
Dreamweaver: KompoZer or Aptana or seamonkey or Amaya or href="http://net2.com/nvu/">NVU

I also found this website which might help: www.thefreesuite.com

Here are the relevant OSalt links:
photoshop
illustrator
indesign
dreamweaver

Photoshop has enough trouble crashing without adding to the issues. If only The GIMP had a proper interface.

It does try GimpShop .

Geezus these arguments get old. The fact is that being similar can help win new users, as *well* as being better. So, even if you have a better program, you may not get as many converts of everyone is used to another method that isn't as "good". Then there's also the fact that often "good" depends on who you ask. Maybe Gimp should fork and become Gimp, and Gimpshop. ;) Oh wait...

You have a good point: for people to transfer easily to Linux they need at least the default common apps like Office and Photoshop to work in a similar way.

Gimpshop is a customization of Gimp that is meant to look and feel like Photoshop - worth a try. http://www.gimpshop.com/

For the record I do use Gimp, but I quite regularly feel as if I'm fighting with the interface to get something done, or having to make lots of extra clicks to deal with window focus changes.

If you like GIMP but not it's GUI you can try Gimpshop which has a more Photoshop like gui.

Falcon

There is a Photoshop Compatibility Mode .. To draw a straight line, select pen and then press SHIFT .. To draw a circle use this or else a script someone produced ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=s4z7f2_BpBA&gl=GB

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/lwcon/gimp/script-fu/draw-circle-point.htm

http://www.gimpshop.com/

What professionals are you talking about?

If you mean: "I do photography for a magazine," or "I do big budget advertising work." Yeah, sure. Lack of CMYK support and good color calibration are a killer. The GIMP is not a suitable tool for those professionals.

If you mean: "I'm a reporter for a small weekly newspaper who is also expected to be her own photographer and do her own photo cropping and correction," the GIMP is ready today. It was ready several years ago when a friend in exactly that position gave it a try. She was using Photoshop to do the work and found that the GIMP was a complete replacement. (She didn't like the interface, but GIMPshop instantly eliminated that complaint.) If you mean, "I'm doing web design for a small company," the GIMP is ready today.

I am also curious what people did before Photoshop itself got CMYK support, or good color calibration, or whatever it is you're whining about today. Were there just no professionals in the field then?

If GIMP had a decent GUI and a more intuitive workflow, a lot less of this book would really be necessary and GIMP might actually find some greater acceptance.

I disagree, it's different than Photoshop but gets the job done. But why not let people make their own minds up. Hands-on experience is worth any amount of reviews ..

'the GNU Image Manipulation Program. It is a freely distributed piece of software for such tasks as photo retouching, image composition and image authoring. It works on many operating systems, in many languages'

Here's a modification that replicates the look of Photoshop - GIMPshop

check out gimpshop.

I'll definitely buy this book. I dislike GIMP intensely, but knowing it better might take an edge off.

Have you tried GIMPshop?

I agree, GIMP is a BITCH to use. I can use it, but Photoshop's UI just obliterates GIMP's. It's not just that I have to learn something new, it's much harder to learn with a confusing approach to how to use tools.

If Photoshop works for you and you can afford it that's great. If however the GUI is holding you back there's a version of GIMP who's GUI is like Photoshop's, GIMPShop. I tried GIMP years ago and I wouldn't use it now except for basic editing. The only reason I thought if using anything other than Photoshop, like CinePaint, is because of the cost. I'm disabled and on disability so just Photoshop CS, not a suite, costs as much as one month of disability. If after I try CinePaint I find it does not work for me then I'd have to try to find a way to pay for Photoshop. Perhaps buy an older but upgradeable version off of eBay.

Yeah, and I've never, ever, ever heard anyone ever say "photog" ever, and it does sound stupid.

Google returns more than 2,500,000 results with photog. One of them is a freelance photographer, notice the domain name.

Falcon

Similarly, can you name anyone who uses Linux for professional photography editing? Eh? I mean, the GIMP is nice, but it's no photoshop.

I have a friend who does professional photography and he uses The GIMP. As far as I am concerned I have no idea how to use PhotoShop so I could easily use the GIMP if I wanted to without trying to make useless comparisons.

Yes the GIMP is not PhotoShop but you can get gimpshop which makes the GIMP have a PhotoShop look and feel and it is still free while PhotoShop costs. Of course if you as a professional photographer still want PhotoShop and pays for it (cough !) you can still run it under Linux via Wine see this .

In many respects comparing PhotoShop to the Gimp is not much more different than comparing MS Office to Open Office. Yes the one you pay for will have more functionality and most likely look prettier however the the overall differences in usable functionality for most people is negligible. Comparing most proprietary software to their Linux equivalent usually sees this trend so why pay for something that has a particular functionality that you are rarely if ever going to use.

Precisely because Gimp is open source that someone was able to tweak its GUI and make GimpShop. That's qbzzt's point.

Ah yes, that must explain why Apache is doing so terribly in terms of market penetration...

Most non-technical people have never heard of "patching" and the technical ones all know about Apache.

The GIMP certainly has a stupid name, but I sincerely doubt that it affects its take up anything like as much as the shere existing mindshare of PhotoShop. In fact I'll bet that the GimpShop hack improves its prominence more than a "pure" name change, and I'll bet that most of that is down to the obvious connection with PhotoShop not the sanitization of the user interface.

I can just use the GIMP to do my photo touch ups and other editing.

I tried GIMP years ago when I had Windows but found it seriously lacking. So I tried out Paint Shop Pro. Now that I have a Mac I'll try CinePaint, aka FilmGIMP. Because colour bit depth is important to me I consider it better than GIMP. Whereas GIMP only has 8 bit colour depths CinePaint has 16. Which brings up something I don't like about the GIMP developers. A programmer submitted code to the project that had 16 bit colour depth, several years ago, but they refused to use it. So he, or she I don't know who is was, forked GIMP. Many years later GIMP still only has 8 bit colour depths while movie studios work with CinePaint.

I used Photoshop a few years ago, and the interface was sleeker than the GIMP

Have you tried GIMPshop? It's interface was designed to be more like Photoshop.

Falcon

If you like the gimp, but crave the UI of photoshop you should check out gimpshop.

from their website:

"GIMPshop is a modification of the free/open source GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP), intended to replicate the feel of Adobe Photoshop. Its primary purpose is to make users of Photoshop feel comfortable using GIMP.

It shares all GIMP's advantages, including the long feature list and customisability, while addressing some common criticisms regarding the program's interface: GIMPshop modifies the menu structure to closely match Photoshop's, adjusts the program's terminology to match Adobe's, and, in the Windows version, uses a plugin called 'Deweirdifier' to combine the application's numerous windows in a similar manner to the MDI system used by most Windows graphics packages. While GIMPshop does not support Photoshop plugins, all GIMP's own plugins, filters, brushes, etc. remain available."

http://www.gimpshop.com/

http://www.koffice.org/krita/
http://www.inkscape.org/
http://www.gimpshop.com/
http://www.getpaint.net/

You can even get an Alpha of Krita 2.0 for Windows these days. All of those are free.

"there is nothing like Photoshop,"

http://www.gimpshop.com/

"no killer video capture and editing software"

i don't know if any of these are 'killer' and some are not editors... but
sourceforge has 300+ linux/bsd apps for avi

my problem with video editing, has been reliability... i hate it when FOSS causes the audio and video to desynchronize! but i haven't tried hard to see if all tools are bad.

Yes there is. However, from what I understand the bigger problem is that GIMP doesnt understand CMYK color formats.. though I could be wrong there.

I don't understand why GIMP doesn't just layout its windows like photoshop does. It wouldn't lose usability, surely, and it would help the transition of first-time-users immensely.

There's GimpShop for those who want a Photoshop like interface.

If they are already proficient with Photoshop, pimp Gimpshop to them.
Otherwise, like you say, show them, The GIMP with some good tutorials.

The beauty of open source is... if the GIMP team doesn't want to make a Photoshop-clone interface, you can fork GIMP, and make a version with a Photoshop-clone interface.

Gimp has many such fundamental problems, such as the choices made in interface design. It's not a case where all they need is some help developing, it's definite choices they have made which conflict with what some people want.

Actually, the coolest thing would be to fund gimpshop!

http://www.gimpshop.com/

That would make the photoshop bigots happy because the GUI would be the way they expect,
and the functional improvements would make their way into gimp, warming the cockles of the gnu obsessed.

win-win

http://www.gimpshop.com/

I read the article and I was sure, to find a GIMP joke here - because the UI of Gimp is really a bad joke ;) There was already a good GUI redesign - but because this guy was ignored by the GIMP developers (which are not really open-minded) he started "GIMPshop" - http://www.gimpshop.com/ - a picure can be found via Google Picture Search. But they want to stay with their window policy which is IMHO unusable for a image manipulation program

I read the article and I was sure, to find a GIMP joke here - because the UI of Gimp is really a bad joke ;) There was already a good GUI redesign - but because this guy was ignored by the GIMP developers (which are not really open-minded) he started "GIMPshop" - http://www.gimpshop.com/ - a picure can be found via Google Picture Search. But they want to stay with their window policy which is IMHO unusable for a image manipulation program. I don't say that GIMP should orientate on Adobe Photoshop. But at least it should also do a complete redesign of the GUI. For a complex program like that they also shouldn't go to tight with the Gnome UI definitions, it is completely okay to go the "blender way" - a own UI for a program like the blender 3D program.

I don't know about Paintshop, but there's a Photoshop-esque makeover for GIMP called Gimpshop. It has a couple of rough edges, but it's a testament to the modularity of design that a self-declared novice developer could take the existing GIMP framework and remake it in PS's image.

The download link can be found here.

http://www.gimpshop.com/download.shtml

Whenever I use that program, I always feel like a GIMP. Even though it is free, and is the PS equivalent for Linux users, more or less, the UI is terrible. Most people aren't programmers, so I find that point moot. Luckily, however, I recall a digg story indicating on a blog the GIMP team were taking in suggestions on how to improve the UI (as well as the program itself).

If you don't like GIMP's GUI interface, there's a version of GIMP with a Photoshop type interface, GIMPShop.

C'mon guy, give a link at least...

You're probably thinking of GIMPshop. Haven't used it, but I do remember seeing it in another thread. http://www.gimpshop.com/index.shtml

... IMO OpenOffice is probably easier for MS Office people to learn than the new "improved" Office..

(Though a project that aims to reskin the OO interface to have the same menu placements and keyboard shortcuts, not unlike GIMPshop for gimp + photoshop, would be a pretty good idea IMO...)

GIMPshop definitely: http://www.gimpshop.com/

I'm not sure about The GIMP, but I know GIMPshop actually does support most of the plugins and filters that Photoshop does. I imagine that means that The GIMP does, also. http://www.gimpshop.com/ is the URL for downloading GIMPshop, the Photoshop-lookalike for GIMP.

Another good site for it is http://www.gimpshop.com/ for a straight-forward download site.

Just for those who are interested in Photoshop's interface, but would like to use The GIMP, there is GIMPshop: http://www.gimpshop.com/