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Ekiga (http://www.gnomemeeting.org/) does video chat for Linux under Gnome. I'm sure KDE has a similar application. In addition, the Jingle protocol has been developed to allow voice and video chat over XMPP. It works now, and is usable with a number of clients on Windows, Mac, or Linux, which you can find on that page.

When communicating using drums, the sender will identify himself at the start of the transmission with the specific notes corresponding to his personal moto, and those of the other correspondant in order to draw his attention. This technic is also used in another communication language, without drums, called Ekiga, which consists in reproducing the notes, without words, emitting the syllable "ke" in a falsetto voice, and repeating it with the corresponding tones.

There are several free Linux software projects which might or might not what you are looking for. The first thing that comes to mind is something called ZoneMinder which, if I am not mistaken, is a Linux home security sytem which uses remote wireless Internet cameras.

Then there is also the well known Myth TV project which among other things is mainly used by people who bouild their own Personal Video Recorders(PVR). Myth TV supports both HDTV, NTFS and possbly also some other video broadcast standards.

A third possiblility that comes to mind is VLC which is a cross-platform media player and streaming server.

And then there are various other video related programs for Linux such as TvTime the televison application, or MPlayer the movie player. Concievably even something like the Ekiga (formerly known as GnomeNetMeeting) might be relevant. Ekiga supports Full-Screen Videoconferencing. Ekiga supports Video4Linux and Firewire Cameras Support through plugins.

Many Linux video projects seem to be built building block fashion, using other previously written free Linux software, as dependencies. In many cases there are also various other free video projects which are sometimes just user friendly front ends for other free video software. I could not even begin to list all of those free Linux software projects for video and other things.

By the way, Linux has never had virus problems but, even so, there are free anti-virus programs available for Linux. The one that I use is Clam Anti-virus. There are also several good free firewalls avilable for Linux which allow you to control which IP ports are open or closed. There is one other interesting video project which is interesting but, probably not what you are looking for is the free movie studio in a Linux box.

I hope that something that I mentioned might be usesful. You can then decide if Linux is really what you want or not. I personally like it anyway.

In Europe, Siemens sells the Gigaset M34 USB adapter which lets you use a number of DECT handsets for VoIP. The adapter comes with a (customised) version of Skype. I have not tried this thing yet but I might give it a go, given that I've been using a DECT phone for several years now. Not with Skype though, as I'd rather use something standards-based (ie. a SIP phone like Linphone or the upcoming SIP-enabled version of GnomeMeeting).

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/

GnomeMeeting has been doing that for years with H.323 and SIP. They are using the same protocols and technics to cross NAT.

Sorry, but I really don't see what's new with this openwengo thing.

Everyone here at our university is using gnomemeeting now. Some of the codes offer ways better voice quality than Skype did and the video chat quality you get with gnomemeeting is awesome. I couldn't live without it.

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=4

Integrated Instant Messaging/Video Chat: Alright, I'll give them this one. Though gaim is coming along and skype has video now I believe.

Either way, GnomeMeeting works very well and ships by default as part of GNOME.

Skype calls are encrypted end-end. Even if RIAA gets the wiretapping rights to see if VoIP calls are really U2 songs, it'll be hard for them to snoop in. And skype is just a beginning.

It's not Free software, how do you know? The intelligence agencies probably have their own back doors built in. I wish that skype will die and that it will be replaced by some open and free standard. Like the gnomemeeting guys said, skype is hype

Does anyone know how to use gnomemeeting in conjunction with a firewall? My last attempt to connect from Gnomemeeting to Netmeeting failed

but I used to have to boot into Windows at home every weekend so that I could actually SEE my girlfriend.

I can suggest using Scribus for making great quality pamphlets. I can suggest using GIMP to touch up those images of yourself with dazzling beauty. Here is one GREAT meeting software using Gnome. I am dang sure there is other software out there, in addition to Skype.

GnomeMeeting? Supports H.323 and their CVS version also supports SIP.

hype (the comment halfway down the page sums it up nicely.)

Then again GnomeMetting and calling cards from Linuxjack.com pretty much gives us spoofing anyway. Not that the phone number is spoofed in any way, it's just that it changes once you've used up your calling card and buy another one.. Personally I've assumed this to be a bad thing, but I do see the value with all this talk about caller id spoofing....

Talking about Skype voice quality, I advice people to read what GnomeMeeting developers have to say about it. It's on the front page.

You mean like http://www.wirlab.net/kphone/ or http://www.gnomemeeting.org/? kphone only has a few codecs and I can't vouch for it's full functionality since I haven't used it for calls (though it seems to authenticate me just fine). gnomemeeting doesn't do SIP yet, but they're working on it.

And, BTW, like others have said before Speex is unrelated to NAT.

• Microsoft Netmeeting on Windows (still included in XP, even if it's "hidden" inside Program Files)
• Gnomemeeting on Linux
• OphoneX for OS X.

That's the bad solution. You need to open loads of ports and it is still tricky to get to work.

I suggest using AIM/iChat on Windows/OS X since audio and video is the best in the business. Also works through firewalls without need to open ports. This solution isn't available for Linux afaik, but it might be in the future. The protocols are open.

All of these will interoperate. They get tricky when used behind NAT. The best option I have found in that case is to use a gatekeeper.

Gnomemeeting for Linux

OphoneX for OS X

Netmeeting for Windows

Have you tried a Linux webcam app? GnomeMeeting is very nice. There is also a list of others here under the "Video: Security / Webcams / Monitoring" section.

Use GnomeMeeting !

So... how much will a Jabber-based or Gnome Meeting-based conference call or any of the other open-source IMing/conferencing systems cost?

Looks like AOL is giving us one of many reasons to quit AIM. Cleartext messaging is another big reason. Not that the NSA isn't recording everywhere, including our cell calls and can't break sophisticated communication codes anyway, but some modicum of an excuse for privacy might be nice.

Some of it comes with the base debian install:

GCC,G++
<flamewar>vim/emacs</flamewar>
links-ssl/curl-ssl-wget
ssh
Perl

Then a whole lotta debs for Gnome/KDE...

Then the actual desktop GUI:
GDM
IceWM
Idesk
Endeavour 2


Then the base apps
Anjuta (C++ IDE)
Gedit Notepad
Mplayer + plugins
XMMS + plugins
ALSA framework
Frozen Bubble!
the GIMP
Open Office
Thunderbird+Firefox
GAIM
Gnome-meeting

And the latest 2.6.x kernel

I've created a CD which will give you all the above in one disk. Automatic installations. Just create a linux/swap partition, and it will install to the largest available 'nix partition, also adding any windows partitions to the lilo.conf

ALSA Sound support is ready (though you must edit /etc/modules with whatever soundcard module you have)

X GUI starts in SVGA mode (best to xf86config and choose your GUI)
USB mouse support through /dev/input/mice

I'm considering putting it up online, but at about 620MB for the ISO I'd need some decent hosting space for that. So far we're using it at work to convert windows desktops to dual-boot... it's XP themes so the windows lusers can figure it out rather easily.

It's also configured to build the base menu structure when a user logs in... and idesk will mount a CD+browse with endeavour on doubleclick, or unmount+eject on a right-click.

I love to see both sexes taking an active part in open source development. Particularly when it's ladies like this.

Or do the developers just like hanging out in #SaucyTeens chat rooms?

This one is nice too

here

this one is better :D

image

What's really put me off trying it is the fear I might end up talking to this trannie

damn, mannish features or what

http://www.gnomemeeting.org/admin/screenshots/late st/GnomeMeeting_In_a_Call.png

I'll just fuck with gnomemeeting.

Hot chick and Translator of Gnomemeeting
Models developing software, what's the world coming to.

i think you better be look at the screenshot again.

Eugenia keep up the good work, dont let this jerks drove you from what really matters. Stuff for nerds of course :D

Bah! you happy now?

Have a look at the Gnome Meeting webpage; there are many more screenshots there with some preferences and other parts of the app shown that don't appear in the OSNews article. -- Steve

And the most important point of it all (from their FAQ):

2.2. Does it work with Netmeeting?
Yes, GnomeMeeting is compliant with all H.323 products, software and hardware.

At least the Windows users on the other end don't have to download any additional program, they can just continue to use what they did before...

1. There aren't many state-owned phone companies left in the world due to "Structural Adjustment Programs"
2. Where there are State-Owned Telcos, IBM will probably be paying them for internet connectivity
3. This is really just a sign to sell stock in companies that produce PBX equipment but not VoIP servers/handsets

OpenH323 for more info about VoIP PBX whatevers... or GnomeMeeting for a client so you can start getting your hands dirty now...

Good things with DV tapes are that they come with ~10GB of storage space and 3.5MB/s speed. Works very nicely with dvbackup

Of course DV tapes are a non-standard solution, longer tapes do not exist yet and the solution does not scale - but hey, this is advice you find on slashdot.

-pfl

Isn't GnomeMeeting do the same thing and more? I think it supports NAT too.

Isn't GnomeMeeting do the same thing and more? I think it supports NAT too.

I've had plenty of occasions to make small changes to applications running on my Linux box.

For example, earlier this year I installed GnomeMeeting, which is a Linux audio/video conferencing program that will talk to NetMeeting clients. I very quickly discovered that when GnomeMeeting starts up, it automatically selects the microphone input on my sound card as the "recording" input. Which isn't what I want -- my microphone is actually connected to a mixing board (along with a synthesizer and an electric drum kit) which runs into my sound card's line in jack.

I Emailed the author to suggest that he make this option configurable... Got a very detailed and completely polite response from him less than an hour later, saying that he's very sorry, but since he's trying to compete with NetMeeting, simplicity and ease of use are of the utmost importance to him, and he feels making this an option would confuse too many people...

So I looked through the source code, found the piece of code that selected the microphone input, and just commented it out.

Another example: I have a friend who reads Yahoo's News section on a regular basis, and whenever she finds something she thinks is interesting, she sends me the URL to it over ICQ... But since Yahoo disallows deep linking, I never end up at the page she thought she sent me to. And if she goes back to her ICQ history and clicks on the URL, it pops up fine for her -- because the URL currently loaded in her browser was still one from Yahoo's servers. So naturally, she blames me for the failures.

I haven't actually tried doing this, but I keep thinking I should add something into Firebird that'll make it so that whenever the "real" Referer URL is on a different domain than the URL being requested, the top page of the domain being requested gets sent as Referer instead. I'd think it wouldn't break too many things if it doesn't effect the behavior when going between two pages on the same site.

'course, if this became common practice, the /. effect would become a much more fearsome thing.

But really, the best argument for this suggestion is much closer to what you were originally saying. It's quite possible that programs are doing "something funny." While having the right to view the source code would make it much easier to detect if this is the case... Actually having the entire source code in a readily compilable form would enable you to easily disable the "funny" behavior.

In other words, it would assure you that you'd still get the functionality you were promised when you paid for the program, even if there's some functionality in it that you find objectionable and would like to disable. It would give you a much larger level of control over what your system does and what it doesn't do.

But heck, we all know that's not going to happen... Because if we give users control, the companies lose control.

What actually happens is the exact opposite. Case in point... Earlier this year, with iTunes 4, Apple introduced the ability to MacOS X computers to automatically stream their MP3 libraries to other Macs over the Internet. A large amount of software very quickly showed up to let you download and save MP3 files over this protocol, instead of just listen to the streamed versions.

But, lucky for Apple, they soon discovered that there was some sort of bug in iTunes 4 that caused MP3 files to sound horrible if you had your computer's volume set very nearly to the top. (I'm not exactly clear on the precise nature of the bug -- I rarely have my volume set anywhere near the top. Most of the music I listen to is fairly quiet.)

And, naturally, the same update (iT

NetMeeting or GnomeMeeting using an $80 QuickCam.

Gotta mention... GnomeMeeting. VoIP for Linux.

You should be using GnomeMeeting.

You can use GnomeMeeting (here)

Will they work with a standard PC sound card? I could use a good (sic) headset to replace my mic and speakers when I want to chat with friends via Gnomemeeting.

Or he could use Gnomemeeting if the comp is running Linux.

If you want to remain compatible with your windows netmeeting using co-workers, try gnomemeeting .

Then to answer your nat/firewall question, consult this from the gnomemeeting FAQ. (NOTE: this might give you hints regarding netmeeting behind a firewall as well).

Hope this helps.
chepati

If you want to remain compatible with your windows netmeeting using co-workers, try gnomemeeting .

Then to answer your nat/firewall question, consult this from the gnomemeeting FAQ. (NOTE: this might give you hints regarding netmeeting behind a firewall as well).

Hope this helps.
chepati

How about Gnomemeeting?
Seems to work well, assuming you have your sound card set up to do full
duplex audio correctly.

Should be able to talk to this device no sweat as well.

Just in case you still have some doubts...

Yet another perfect application for mesh networking! (And another oppotunity for a shameless plug, but I digress...)

One of the products my company makes is a software mesh for 802.11. We have ported this software to PocketPC, so a device like a Compag^H^H^H^H^H^HHP iPaq with a wireless card can mesh with other devices around it. As nodes go down or enter the network the devices seamlessly configure themselves and route traffic around breaks or congested areas. If the access point you were using went down, you could hop through a neighborss handheld and his neighbor's, so on, until you found an AP.

Of course, you could also do this with free software. Familiar + iPaq + AODV would be a viable open source alternative. Once you have the connectivity you could use just about any app. Gnomemeeting or OpenH323 would enable VoIP. Email apps are there too.