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. . . Suggested reading:
https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/...
https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/...
https://www.scmp.com/video/chi...
https://www.rfa.org/english/ne...
https://www.theguardian.com/wo...
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018...
https://www.hrichina.org/en/pr...
https://qz.com/1129837/human-r...
https://chinachange.org/2017/1...
https://www.sciencealert.com/c...
https://news.slashdot.org/stor...

Dateline CHINA: Interpol Chief Disappeared!

Evidently I am one of many in North America who was unaware of the status of the Interpol chief, incorrectly assuming when I heard his name that he was a Chinese-European --- and appalled to learn he was a Chinese national and member of the Chinese Communist Party who had been number man at their intelligence organization, the Ministry of Public Security!
Holy Mother of God !!!!!
And there are still fools --- and minions of the oligarchy --- who question and criticize Brexit!
The devil with those jackals!
The government of China is a vile, despicable totalitarian capitalist state full of corruption of the princelings, the spawn of the founders of the Communist Party in that country and it is obvious that the Interpol chief, Meng, was with the competitor political faction to Xi Jinping's political gang --- Xi Jinping being China's self-appointed emperor. (Jinping's daddy was the author of the original Chinese constitution which Xi amended.)
This is a most blatant and public insult from China to the EU --- suggestive of China's bellicose and warlike stance against the democracies of the world!
Let us not forget the many recent disappearances performed by China: against pro-democracy academic critics, journalists, and the wholesale disappearance of most --- if not all --- of China's human rights attorneys of several years ago!
In America, those jackals of the Business Roundtable, National Association of Manufacturers, Cato Institute, American Enterprise Institute and too many other viper nests, assured us that if all the jobs, technology and investment were offshored to China they would have long since morphed into a democracy by now.
So much for the feckless self-serving assertions of jackals!
With China's program of "soft" intelligence penetration by way of their Confucius Institutes (from a decidedly anti-Confucius government) coupled with their Trojan horse of foreign property acquisition through debt warfare (their One Belt One Road (One Ruler) Initiative) --- and their militarization of artificial islands in the seas of the Pacific, especially the South China Sea, of which two-thirds of the oil shipments traverse --- their global martial strategy is evident.
Add to that their insidious implementation of an ultra-Orwellian control system: their Social Credit System, to further subvert any possibility of human rights in China and the future is obvious and cannot be disputed! Supporters of China's government spew nothing more than red dragon droppings: giant piles of crap! Suggested reading:
https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/...
https://www.nchrd.org/2018/07/...
https://www.scmp.com/video/chi...
https://www.rfa.org/english/ne...
https://www.theguardian.com/wo...
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018...
https://www.hrichina.org/en/pr...
https://qz.com/1129837/human-r...
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Go read the charter yourself. Where the hell does it promote radical capitalism?

Why do I see the words "information minister" in there and shudder?

Here's a link to the actual statement back in June.

Born and raised in the PRC, baby. First ten years of my life, and two years back there more recently.

People tend to have rather nostalgic and idealized notions of the land of their birth/youth. It's usually irrational. Anyway, I'm guessing that you hail from a very modern and urbanized part of China, where the differences with the western world would not be as stark (The building in the west being smaller for example.)

Perhaps you could enlighten us on your own experiences with the country?

Perhaps you could enlighten us with your own experiences of life in the Chinese rural provinces?

People forget that China's industrial boom, colossal as it is, has not actually affected most of the country or the population. 800 million people have been left behind over the course of the boom. The wealth and indeed to some extent freedoms enjoyed by the urban populations have most certainly not been extended to the vast majority of Chinese citizens. These people are not even allowed to live and work where they want to, essentially needed a chit from local officials to so much as rent an apartment. If that's not oppression, I don't know what is.

So please remember that China is a colossal country, and while you may have experienced little or no oppression in your own small and modernized corner, that does not mean that your experience is universal. When people in the west complain about lack of human rights and freedoms, it is largely the rights of the poor majority which they are referring to.

Now, your experience shows that life is getting better in China, and to be fair, there has been much improvement in the quality of life for many. But there has been little or no improvement in the political and other freedoms in China. Freedoms that people should enjoy, regardless of any ethos of consent. It is true that the communist party of China is in a difficult position, but even still they have made inexcusably little effort to give Chinese people the rights they should enjoy. They might be afraid of another July 4th, but if they don't release pressure by granting rights, then they will end up with another whether they like it or not.

I configured Tor to use a Chinese exit node. Here are my results:

- Chinese Wikipedia: accessible (used to be blocked)
- BBC Chinese (via bbcchinese.com): blocked
- BBC Chinese (via direct URL): accessible
- Article on Tibet in English Wikipedia: accessible (used to be blocked)
- Human Rights in China: blocked

Domestic spying is about eliminating political opposition and the only way to save yourself from that is to run away.

Oh, yes, sure. Ever since the ruling-party's nominee approved of domestic spying, we've seen Hillary run away and Obama eliminated. Right...

If you understand these things and how computers work, you have no choice but to use and advocate free software

Do you, really? Have you ever looked at, say, OpenOffice.org code to be certain, there are no backdoors in it? Especially — in its recently lauded fork (RedOffice) made at that happy place of undisturbed freedoms?

Between Yahoo Executives http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/11 0443243/article.pl and lawyers, darn it, I'm on the side of the lawyers. Tear them a new one, my well-healed Mercedes-driving friends. Class Action. You know the drill. Do it for the Gipper, and Wang Xiaoning http://www.hrichina.org/public/contents/press?revi sion_id=27803&item_id=27801

What's wrong with China? Oh I don't know, maybe this? How about this? Or maybe you'd prefer more Economist?

Of course there are a few successful localized industries... but as with many other poor countries, there are a few developed areas, while the rest of the country is still in the stone age.

Consider this risk management!!!!!!

I guess we wait for another Tiananmen Square to happen again. It kind of makes one wonder what exactly was accomplished in 1989 when 100,000 protesters marched in Beijing. Appearantly not much.

While the U.S. is concerned with this, maybe we should instead be concerned with that?

Either way, if you're interested in what the U.S. is concerned about, maybe you should read documents made available by the Freedom of Information Act.

What are people supposed to do if they cannot free themselves from a suppressive government? It's not worth violence to be able to read wikipedia but it's clear that non-violent protests in the past did very little.

I'm glad China is making sure the outrageous practise of killing people in online computer games is being stopped. This sick practise leads people to perform disgusting acts like firing polygons at another polygon in order to cause them to die with a burst of red sprites! If people do too much of this they may feel the need to let people express their own spirituality, sexuality and have acceptable human rights. Thank goodness they have their priorities in order! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Here's a link to the Human Rights in China site. They aren't President Bush.

I suppose I should mention Human Rights Watch, another group not affiliated with President Bush or the U.S. Government. They aren't happy with China's approach to human rights, which is to propagandize about how wonderful things are in China.

Amnesty International, a group critical of the Bush Administration, thinks even less of PRChina.

I've never been to China. Have you?

...reality and math says that the Chinese will be better at it simply because they have more people and their people are willing to work for alot less money.

Just like with the car industry, and all the other industries.

Recent (now suppressed) *Chinese government* studies have shown that over 80 million people died in "The Great Leap Forward" and "The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution". To date, no real admissions have been made. The recent 'improvements' have been superficial. China still runs huge prison camps with millions of slave laborers, many incarcerated without trial, (and trials in China are often shams) and keeps millions of its citizens in a second-class citizenship internal-exile 'peasant' status, and these people are prohibited from moving or getting good jobs..and if they do try to move to cities, they have no legal rights..

Plus, China sends tens of thousands of starving North Korean refugees back to North Korea (often to be summarily executed for the 'treason' of trying to flee Kim Jong Il's 'paradise'.) in violation of international law..

Birds of a feather, flock together... (North Korea is, by far, the WORST human rights situation on Earth)

And they also execute thousands of people a year, more than any other country, (except for North Korea) and sell their organs.. Often, they do a tissue match first, and execute the prisoners with the best match.. Isn't that creepy?

Whoever says China is not a country with barbaric human rights practices.. man, that is some serious denial going on...

China is the new America.

Really?

http://iso.hrichina.org/iso/
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/hr_facts.html
http://www.derechos.org/human-rights/nasia/china/
http://www.hrw.org/asia/china.php

Or you could listen to the Chinese government propaganda...
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/zhuanti/Zhuanti_ 29.html

Anyway, I assume they lifted the ban just until they have had time to develop the system so that it is a bit harder to go around it. We might see the blockings again within a few weeks.

Many reporters have highlighted Wan's work in raising awareness about HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, - and also Gay & Lesbian rights in China. CPJ also highlight Wan's role as a webmaster - and as a leading critic of Beijing's neo-fascist Information enviroment, and cult-like Pledge of Self-Discipline Yahoo!

CPJ concerned about safety of Web publisher

Wan Yanhai is a courageous man - our thoughts are with him, Su Zhaosheng - his wife, and his family.

Read: The Great Firewall of China, by Xiao Qiang, Executive Director, HRIC - and CPJ's Asia Research Associate Sophie Beach, from the L.A. Times of August 25, 2002....

http://www.aizhi.org/ [aizhi.org]

Starting testing...

Stage one testing complete.
Stage two testing complete.

Testing complete for http://www.aizhi.org/.
Result:

Reported as accessible in China

Tested at request of Greg Walton,
China's Golden Shield, Corporate complicity in the development of surveillance technology in China Le bouclier d'or de la Chine

Open Source Intelligence

Http://go.openflows.org [openflows.org]

Related stories:

Where is Wan Yanhai?
China's most prominent AIDS activist has been "disappeared" - believed to have been detained by the police, relatives and human rights groups said yesterday.

China Net Spies

...there was recent evidence that state censors had removed the blocks on some banned Web sites to see who tried to access them. "The reverse-trace route monitoring we do on a regular basis shows a surprising number of interesting sites that were once blocked are now going through, but with anomalous traffic signatures, suggesting some systematic surveillance of sensitive sites. Perhaps the PSB [Public Security Bureau] is trying to learn more about surfing habits," he said.

The "Great Firewall" is failing
Beyond the Great Firewall - from censorship to surveillance
Gartner: China's Internet Strategy: Struggling to Maintain the "Great Firewall"
China, Nortel, and the Net

or Ethan Gutmann's Who Lost China's Internet?

if you're still interested.....Chapter Two of the private RAND study published Tuesday, "You've got dissent"offers an authoritative analysis of the evolving, multi-layered counter-netwar strategies deployed in the PRC -> increasingly redistributing the focus of the so-called "Great Firewall" from the International Gateways, through the ISPs and out to the cybercafes [;-)cracked versions of these filters available], the possibility of .cn ISPs setting policy on individuals' firewalls in offices and homes

Endnotes: Zi Xiang Mao Dun

P2P geektivists could note a parallel decentralisation of resources in the Future Trends section, in Chapter One for more on innovation at the Edge of the network:

"Dissidents, Falungong practitioners, and other activists in the PRC and abroad may increasingly turn to emerging peer-to-peer technology to exchange information."

All this augurs a mighty struggle deep indside China's networks in the coming years, but with China sending dissidents to mental hospitals a culture of self-censorship is probably the gravest challenge to free experssion.

Note to CowBoyNeal,language barrier: this installation has problems with Chinese charcters - there'd probably be people out there who have modified SLASHcode to handle Chinese UNICODE, and perhaps publish automatically to USENET, Freenet etc.

they'd probably also find time to translate this thread.

i'd like to go on, but some government employed s'kripty in Yunan's is busy thinking he can backdoor my network - its not an ethical thing - its the aesthetics i've got a problem with...so crude, juvenile. I'll leave you with a final link

Many reporters have highlighted Wan's work in raising awareness about HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, - and also Gay & Lesbian rights in China. CPJ also highlight Wan's role as a webmaster - and as a leading critic of Beijing's neo-fascist Information enviroment, and cult-like Pledge of Self-Discipline Yahoo!

CPJ concerned about safety of Web publisher

Wan Yanhai is a courageous man - our thoughts are with him, Su Zhaosheng - his wife, and his family.

Read: The Great Firewall of China, by Xiao Qiang, Executive Director, HRIC - and CPJ's Asia Research Associate Sophie Beach, from the L.A. Times of August 25, 2002....

http://www.aizhi.org/ [aizhi.org]

Starting testing...

Stage one testing complete.
Stage two testing complete.

Testing complete for http://www.aizhi.org/.
Result:

Reported as accessible in China

Tested at request of Greg Walton,
China's Golden Shield, Corporate complicity in the development of surveillance technology in China Le bouclier d'or de la Chine

Open Source Intelligence

Http://go.openflows.org [openflows.org]

Related stories:

Where is Wan Yanhai?
China's most prominent AIDS activist has been "disappeared" - believed to have been detained by the police, relatives and human rights groups said yesterday.

China Net Spies

...there was recent evidence that state censors had removed the blocks on some banned Web sites to see who tried to access them. "The reverse-trace route monitoring we do on a regular basis shows a surprising number of interesting sites that were once blocked are now going through, but with anomalous traffic signatures, suggesting some systematic surveillance of sensitive sites. Perhaps the PSB [Public Security Bureau] is trying to learn more about surfing habits," he said.

The "Great Firewall" is failing
Beyond the Great Firewall - from censorship to surveillance
Gartner: China's Internet Strategy: Struggling to Maintain the "Great Firewall"
China, Nortel, and the Net

or Ethan Gutmann's Who Lost China's Internet?

if you're still interested.....Chapter Two of the private RAND study published Tuesday, "You've got dissent"offers an authoritative analysis of the evolving, multi-layered counter-netwar strategies deployed in the PRC -> increasingly redistributing the focus of the so-called "Great Firewall" from the International Gateways, through the ISPs and out to the cybercafes [;-)cracked versions of these filters available], the possibility of .cn ISPs setting policy on individuals' firewalls in offices and homes

Endnotes: Zi Xiang Mao Dun

P2P geektivists could note a parallel decentralisation of resources in the Future Trends section, in Chapter One for more on innovation at the Edge of the network:

"Dissidents, Falungong practitioners, and other activists in the PRC and abroad may increasingly turn to emerging peer-to-peer technology to exchange information."

All this augurs a mighty struggle deep indside China's networks in the coming years, but with China sending dissidents to mental hospitals a culture of self-censorship is probably the gravest challenge to free experssion.

Note to CowBoyNeal,language barrier: this installation has problems with Chinese charcters - there'd probably be people out there who have modified SLASHcode to handle Chinese UNICODE, and perhaps publish automatically to USENET, Freenet etc.

they'd probably also find time to translate this thread.

i'd like to go on, but some government employed s'kripty in Yunan's is busy thinking he can backdoor my network - its not an ethical thing - its the aesthetics i've got a problem with...so crude, juvenile. I'll leave you with a final link

Many reporters have highlighted Wan's work in raising awareness about HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, - and also Gay & Lesbian rights in China. CPJ also highlight Wan's role as a webmaster - and as a leading critic of Beijing's neo-fascist Information enviroment, and cult-like Pledge of Self-Discipline Yahoo!

CPJ concerned about safety of Web publisher

Wan Yanhai is a courageous man - our thoughts are with him, Su Zhaosheng - his wife, and his family.

Read: The Great Firewall of China, by Xiao Qiang, Executive Director, HRIC - and CPJ's Asia Research Associate Sophie Beach, from the L.A. Times of August 25, 2002....

http://www.aizhi.org/ [aizhi.org]

Starting testing...

Stage one testing complete.
Stage two testing complete.

Testing complete for http://www.aizhi.org/.
Result:

Reported as accessible in China

Tested at request of Greg Walton,
China's Golden Shield, Corporate complicity in the development of surveillance technology in China Le bouclier d'or de la Chine

Open Source Intelligence

Http://go.openflows.org [openflows.org]

Related stories:

Where is Wan Yanhai?
China's most prominent AIDS activist has been "disappeared" - believed to have been detained by the police, relatives and human rights groups said yesterday.

China Net Spies

...there was recent evidence that state censors had removed the blocks on some banned Web sites to see who tried to access them. "The reverse-trace route monitoring we do on a regular basis shows a surprising number of interesting sites that were once blocked are now going through, but with anomalous traffic signatures, suggesting some systematic surveillance of sensitive sites. Perhaps the PSB [Public Security Bureau] is trying to learn more about surfing habits," he said.

The "Great Firewall" is failing
Beyond the Great Firewall - from censorship to surveillance
Gartner: China's Internet Strategy: Struggling to Maintain the "Great Firewall"
China, Nortel, and the Net

or Ethan Gutmann's Who Lost China's Internet?

if you're still interested.....Chapter Two of the private RAND study published Tuesday, "You've got dissent"offers an authoritative analysis of the evolving, multi-layered counter-netwar strategies deployed in the PRC -> increasingly redistributing the focus of the so-called "Great Firewall" from the International Gateways, through the ISPs and out to the cybercafes [;-)cracked versions of these filters available], the possibility of .cn ISPs setting policy on individuals' firewalls in offices and homes

Endnotes: Zi Xiang Mao Dun

P2P geektivists could note a parallel decentralisation of resources in the Future Trends section, in Chapter One for more on innovation at the Edge of the network:

"Dissidents, Falungong practitioners, and other activists in the PRC and abroad may increasingly turn to emerging peer-to-peer technology to exchange information."

All this augurs a mighty struggle deep indside China's networks in the coming years, but with China sending dissidents to mental hospitals a culture of self-censorship is probably the gravest challenge to free experssion.

Note to CowBoyNeal,language barrier: this installation has problems with Chinese charcters - there'd probably be people out there who have modified SLASHcode to handle Chinese UNICODE, and perhaps publish automatically to USENET, Freenet etc.

they'd probably also find time to translate this thread.

i'd like to go on, but some government employed s'kripty in Yunan's is busy thinking he can backdoor my network - its not an ethical thing - its the aesthetics i've got a problem with...so crude, juvenile. I'll leave you with a final link

wow, the GPL is being violated in China.. perhaps these are some bigger issues from China:

Outlaw group is mass killed
tibet situation, caused by China
see what a Chinese 'criminal' has done to deserve jail
Chinese government illegally harvests organs

obviously a lot of problems exist in China, anyone interested should visit human rights in china

wow, the GPL is being violated in China.. perhaps these are some bigger issues from China:

Outlaw group is mass killed
tibet situation, caused by China
see what a Chinese 'criminal' has done to deserve jail
Chinese government illegally harvests organs

obviously a lot of problems exist in China, anyone interested should visit human rights in china