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Why the 1st model starts at -800?
Boeing did the same thing starting at 787-8.
Hopefully the A350 can make up for the anemic A380 sales.
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WTF UK?
It's like the damn island hasn't heard of the UN Declaration of Human Rights. "Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,"
Mario Balotelli, a black football player with a Jewish mother is suspended a game and fined 25k pounds for posting an anti-racist picture about a multicultural Super Mario.
Luis Suarez was essentially forced out of England for using the word negrito while speaking Spanish because it happened to sound like nigger. (While John Terry was given a sentence of half the time for using the word nigger in English.)
A man is threatened with life in jail for swearing too much.
And what the fuck is an Anti-Social Behavior Order?
How can the nation that brought us Locke also be bringing us this?
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Re:You want a family friendly internet?
WTF is wrong with the UK?
Mario Balotelli, a black football player with a Jewish mother is suspended a game and fined 25k pounds for posting an anti-racist picture about a multicultural Super Mario.
Luis Suarez was essentially forced out of England for using the word negrito while speaking Spanish because it happened to sound like nigger. (While John Terry was given a sentence of half the time for using the word nigger in English.)
A man is threatened with life in jail for swearing too much.
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Bad link in summary
Since the first anchored text in the summary isn't actually linked to anything, here's The Independent's article. I'm guessing this is the one timothy intended to link to.
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British Porn Filter
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Re:How about a list for Australia ...
I found the one for Britain
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Lazy journalism
The article is a bit misleading, Russia office is not the only one being closed. Google is closing offices in Norway, Sweden, Finland and several US locations as well, probably cost cutting measures. Lazy journalism, Russia just passed a new law, ergo this must be the reason for the Google closing the office, since another big company shuttering facilities and laying people off certainly doesn't draw the site traffic these days. Funny that the connection with cracking down on internet freedom did not extend to Nordic countries and the US, because what other reason could Google have. http://www.independent.co.uk/l...
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Re:No bigger than ...
Yeah, but birds can't carry explosives, so Congress needs another 7 trillion for the anti-drone drones.
Actually birds can carry explosives.
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Re:Hard to say
The report I read elsewhere suggested that it was, at least in part, a reaction to the new owner sacking the editor.
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Re:Selective media censoring
Well murders, manslaughters, and violence caused A&E admissions have been declining too which comes with the implication that the violence that is happening is less likely to result in death or hospital treatment which means that the violence in question is probably actually less violent too (unless people engaging in physical violence have all become well disciplined marshal artists who all know how to attack only to stun). What exactly is your point? that although less people are punching each other they might be punching a little bit harder because they've played GTA?
Get a grip and stop talking nonsense. You've turned into a Jack Thompson like nutjob on this issue, there's nothing more to it than that. Video games don't cause violence, we've got an entire generation brought up in an era of violent video games now and guess what? they're the least criminal generation of young folks possibly ever:
http://www.independent.co.uk/v...
So if video games are turning people into prostitute murderers as you're suggesting where is the evidence of this? where is this actually happening? Why has an entire generation brought up on ever more violent video games become more placid than ever?
Your narrative on video games, violence, and women bears no semblance to reality. You seem to have got yourself so tangled up in that childish gamergate thing which is from what I can tell fundamentally just a battle between two different groups of Twitter attention whores and has fuck all to do with the many other millions of people who actually play video games in practice and are actually normal decent human beings that you've lost all sense of perspective on this issue.
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Re:Yeesh
Short answer: you're wrong. Longer answer: there are physical and processing differences, "significant differences" in the connectivity of the brain in men and women. If you handed a forensic scientist a human brain, you would be told what sex it was.
Start here, here, here, here and finally here.
Yes, those aren't the technical articles, but they'll point you there.
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The Independent hacked too
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Re:I just don't understand
I'm not going to rant about how guilty Darren Wilson was. To tell the truth, I don't know if he was guilty. But I just don't understand how there wasn't enough evidence to at least take this to trial. There were multiple witnesses saying that Mike Brown had his hands up and was not attacking Darren Wilson when he was shot. This alone to me is enough to at least take it to trial and see all the evidence to try and figure out exactly what happened.
It's Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson's Just Did, as in it basically never happens. So how "lucky" is Darren Wilson?!
The National Bar association doesn't seem to impressed with the decision either!
Interesting reads here (How Darren Wilson avoided criminal charges for killing Michael Brown) and here (New photos of Darren Wilson released as 'secret' letter written by police officer is revealed). -
Re:Keys to the kingdom ...
The scary thing is these guys either don't understand, or don't care, about how much they're undermining the rest of the law and society.
Sure they care. They care a lot. They just don't care in the way that you care. They care about whether their efforts to maintain the status quo succeed. That's it. But undermining the law is very much part and parcel of that maintenance. The people running our countries are career criminals and if the law were to catch up with them, they would be in trouble. They must continually erode the law, or they will be labeled as what they are. Thieves, crooks, con artists, frauds.
This article tells you all you need you know about the establishment's reaction. From TFA:
"The report also reveals that the two killers had been investigated seven times by different agencies and that MI5 cancelled surveillance of one of the murderers, Michael Adebolajo, just a month before the attack."
But the report then concludes that MI5 (and the other security services) are blameless and it's all the fault of some Internet company. Simultaneously whitewashing the security services failure and justifying (in their minds) further cranking up of mass surveillance.
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Re:So close, so far
Interestingly the UK's official statistic authority (which is pretty good and impartial by the way - it's never been afraid to reprimand the government of the time or opposition for misusing it's stats) has just this last week released it's latest research into the gender paygap:
http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
It shows that not only is the gender paygap not an issue on average for women up to the age of 40, but it actually goes in their favour.
It is only past the point where many start to pull ahead because they are less likely to opt to stay at home and sacrifice their career for childcare duties that the paygap moves back in favour of men. Effectively the overall paygap only exists because when people tend to get the highest salaries (when they have the most experience) many women have opted not to pursue that path.
Of course, we should examine why women as disproportionately opting to be the parent that stays at home to perform childcare duties, there's merit in that. But it does seem to imply there's no real bias against women in the workplace, because all things being equal, when children are much less a part of the equation on average, women actually do better salarywise than men in the UK.
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Re: More detailed ratings are a good thing
The NHS might be far from the best healthcare system imaginable, but it's official - it's one of the best universal healthcare systems, in terms of both efficiency and outcomes.
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If only that were enough...
If only GPS were enough to stop the shootings-down of airliners by Russians...
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Some anti-CO2 efforts CAUSE starvation
A fair amount of starvation has actually been caused by the effort to FIGHT global warming. In particular, the US biofuels mandate was justified as a way to combat global warming - biofuels are alleged to be a carbon-neutral form of energy. But diverting cropland from growing food to growing fuel makes food more expensive. That creates starvation and causes riots and war and refugees. In short, the effort to fight global warming has itself CREATED some of the very problem it claims to be attempting to fight.
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Re:Wait, this wasn't common knowledge already?
If you asked random people on the street "Who is Tim Cook?" and even if you gave them hints like, "He's a business man" a lot of them wouldn't know he is CEO.
If you asked random people on the street "Who is Osama bin Laden?" and even if you gave them hints like, "He's a business man" a lot of them wouldn't know he is uhhh... a what? I can't remember the word...
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Re:How is this relevent?
even the Pope has got with it http://www.independent.co.uk/n... - sort of torpedoes the Creation museum as well
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Meanwhile, the Pope's opinion...
The Pope seems to be more on the side of Bill Nye in this debate. Huh.
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Some women are just too small for space suits
One issue that an all-women space crew could have is that some of them could be too small to fit into space suits. Women under 5’5" can’t wear NASA’s current model, the Extravehicular Mobility Unit (EMUs), because they are not made small enough.
http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
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Bono says....
Bono hails Ireland's controversial business tax laws: 'Tax competitiveness has brought the only prosperity we've known' Because of its generous tax allowances, he added, Ireland has reaped the benefits of “more hospitals and firemen and teachers because of [the tax] policies”.
He is arguing that Ireland's public sector workers will be in jeopardy due to this.
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Re:And the culprit is
First of all, the Nature piece itself found Britannica to be superior – just not by as much as expected.
Secondly, it is a matter of record that Nature only examined science articles, many of them quite specialised. It is inexcusable to omit that qualification. There simply is no evidence at all that Wikipedia is superior to Britannica in other topic areas, and copious evidence within Wikipedia itself of how often articles are biased by special interest groups (just look at the history of Wikipedia arbitration cases).
Third, Nature chose to penalise Britannica for information that was omitted, but contained in Wikipedia: that was counted as an "error". As Britannica themselves pointed out, "Nature accused Britannica of 'omissions' on the basis of reviews of article excerpts, not the articles themselves. In a number of cases only parts of the applicable Britannica articles were reviewed." In other words, they butchered Britannica articles and then penalised Britannica for the fact that the remaining stump failed to contain some item of information that the full article would have contained.
Fourth, Nature noted, but chose not to penalise Wikipedia for, confusing presentation and bad style, essentially proposing that a haphazardly compiled jumble of facts should be considered equal to a well-structured, easy-to-understand introduction to a topic written by a world-renowned expert.
Lastly, there is by now a very long list of journalists and writers found to have copied spurious facts from Wikipedia. Where is a similar list of writers embarrassed for having gotten their information from Britannica? If Lord Leveson had looked up the founders of the Independent newspaper in Britannica, he would not have ended up ascribing that achievement to some unknown Californian student.
Beyond simple errors, there is very copious evidence of bias and covert paid editing in Wikipedia. The Croatian Wikipedia was taken over by right-wing extremists, to the point where the country's education minister warned students not to rely on it, as the country's history was thoroughly falsified by fringe groups. Those are all problems Britannica has never had.
I could go on. I have been a Wikipedian for nigh on ten years. I have seen the problems first-hand. -
Re:Thomas Eric DuncanSources
He went on to claim that Duncan had been sent home from the hospital, despite showing symptoms of the disease, "because he didn't have insurance".
Officials at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital now say Thomas Eric Duncan wasn't honest with them either. When asked if he had been around anyone who had been ill, Duncan told them he had not.
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Re:Homicides up by 50% in the UK
Gun deaths in Australia dropped sharply after the ban was enacted. Here's a Washington Post article about the effect as well. Your figures about the UK are also wrong, but that is more understandable because they changed the way they counted gun crime which made it look like it increased after the ban was enacted--including nonfatal accidents into the records that were previously not recorded.
"changed the way they counted gun crime"
"previously not recorded"
And we wonder why people could give a rats ass about asking anyone for statistics with excuses like this.
You want to know what any gun statistic actually says? Whatever the fuck the presenter wants it to.
Let's just stop asking for this shit as a tool to present facts on this particular topic, since I've yet to see one presented where ALL parties are in agreement with the numbers.
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Re:Homicides up by 50% in the UK
Gun deaths in Australia dropped sharply after the ban was enacted. Here's a Washington Post article about the effect as well. Your figures about the UK are also wrong, but that is more understandable because they changed the way they counted gun crime which made it look like it increased after the ban was enacted--including nonfatal accidents into the records that were previously not recorded.
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Re:Takes two to tango
So if deal between Apple and Ireland was illegal, shouldn't Ireland be fined as well?
Nobody can do that.
Sure they can and they should be. The UK faces being fined not dealing with it's traffic pollution.
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Re:Typical Government Hypocracy
No, this is all about some pretend thing in their heads that they're special enough to kill and yet smart enough to be hidden. The truth is most people are aware of how unimportant they are as a target and don't even attempt to hide themselves.
Do you think that journalists and aid workers are so unimportant as to not be targets? It seems that ISIS disagrees with you.
If they can be targets, why not CIA/NSA/FBI officers?
And it isn't just an overseas threat.
Oklahoma Beheading Suspect Shared Photos of Himself Giving ISIS Salute
The CIA/NSA/FBI all take advantage of this, have a certain level of loathing of the "sheep", and don't want to be placed into the same category because it fundamentally goes against their feelings of superiority of not being so "stupid".
Maybe what it actually goes against is their attachment to their head?
Honestly, "operational security", "ongoing investigation", and "national security" are the words of cowards more often than a real and meaningful thing used to actual protect the populace at large. And I should know as an Anonymous Coward, right?
Even though they can be and have been abused at times, what they are in fact are genuine issues that have to be dealt with by people in responsible positions in government. The fact that you don't deal with that demonstrate your post is disingenuous nonsense.
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Not just the ad - the entire story is BS
The summary says that 'others' have fallen for it. That makes you think there's got to be at least half a dozen idiots in the world that have tried this, right?
The article (at DICE) says "others have fallen".
Their source is The Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/l...What does that story say?
Pictures have followed the advert that (also fake) showing the outcome of attempting to charge your phone in the microwave:
So there's really only 1 person who said they tried it - and the article itself points out that this, too, is fake (as admitted - he was doing it for the exposure, RTs, etc.)
Maybe there's hope for people yet - though I wouldn't put it past some to actually try it, there's no reason to believe that it has already transpired.
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From the real article
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Re:lets pump the brakes here and analyze.
No person is "evil". Calling extremists evil is a lazy manipulation designed to stop you thinking about their motivations and grievances. I think we've had quite enough of that.
ISIS engages in rape, torture, beheadings, amputations, crucifixions, live burials, mass executions, and genocide.
Are they simply misguided? They desire to spread their civilization and form of government over all the earth. Is that wrong? Are you being "judgmental"?
ISIS Attacks: “Religious Cleansing and Attempted Genocide”
Horrors Of ISIS: Children Buried Alive, Crucified Corpses
Iraq crisis: Islamic militants 'buried alive Yazidi women and children in attack that killed 500' -
Re:This isn't scaremongering.
Not really, i think the movement is small at the moment but the Scotlands was in the beginning http://www.independent.co.uk/n... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new... http://www.shetnews.co.uk/feat...
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Re:This isn't scaremongering.
That's easy. Scotland is the last western country in existence that's arguably feudal in nature.
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horrible FUD
Who's going to reject Scotland, anyway? Scotland, like California, sends in more tax money than they get back, and they're sitting on huge oil reserves in the North Sea. Or are you afraid your family is going to lose it's feudal estate with it's captive population of serfs?
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Re:Take the long view
Charlie Stross recently posted a very good take on this: This is a permanent change.
East and West Germany might disagree.
Any voter should consider the probable situation twenty or fourty years from now, not whatever happens in a year or two.
They're probably looking off at finally getting free from feudalism. Half the land in the country is owned by less than 500 families, which they lease out to the serfs, I mean renters, for a profit.
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Re:It doesn't seem to make sense
For starters, to finally get out from under the yoke of feudalism. No, I'm not kidding. 432 families own half the land in Scotland, which they then rent out to the peasants, I mean proles, I mean for a profit. Any time the Scots try and do something about it, it goes nowhere fast in parliament.
The political side would make more sense if Scotland was greatly different than UK culturally and had a significant short-term history of English subjugation.
Aside from the above, why is Scotland's desire for independence any different than Canada's? Or Australia's? Being a part of the UK was never a choice of the Scottish people.
The economics make less sense -- Scotland has been economically integrated with the larger UK for a long time.
The economically questionable part is not ditching the British Pound at the same time they're ditching the British Crown. Having a sovereign government without a sovereign currency can be extremely risky - just ask Greece or Ireland. Scotland should fare better, though, because of drilling opportunities in the North Sea.
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Re:illogical captain
No. The second option is the most logical, because no evidence either way is just that: no evidence
Only if we have evidence that Bigfoot does not exist, will the first option be the most logical.
That is different from what is most likely. It is still most likely that Bigfoot does not exist. (Which is why not believing in Big Foot is still a fair call.)
For example: It is suggested that Yeti might be a type of bear. Had we accepted that Yeti don't exist due to lack of evidence, then we'd never make the effort to make such a discovery. In fact, often we even reject any supposed evidence. But by accepting option 2, then the case is not closed until we have some evidence, one way or another.
Who knows what other "woo-woo" ideas might have some truth in them. I like to give the example of St Elmo's Fire. Of course angels don't dance on masts, but by at least looking into it, we found there was some truth behind the stories after all, and so we learnt something.
Disclaimer: I'm not a God believer, because there are so many easy logic traps that God simply doesn't make sense, at least not in any way I've ever heard of.
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Well that's nice
It may not seem like a big deal to anyone and it shouldn't be. this is stuff we already know but racists are still spitting this nonsense out. They're still sucking at the teat of Watson and Shockley as proof that some people are genetically more intelligent than others. Shockley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... Watson: http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
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Any evidence of when this started?
Re "Any evidence of when this started?"
Operation_Mockingbird https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"After 1953, the network was overseen by Allen W. Dulles, director of the CIA. By this time, Operation Mockingbird had a major influence over 25 newspapers and wire agencies."...
"The organization recruited leading American journalists into a network to help present the CIA's views, and funded some student and cultural organizations, and magazines as fronts. As it developed, it also worked to influence foreign media and political campaigns, in addition to activities by other operating units of the CIA."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"Modern art was CIA 'weapon'" (22 October 1995)
http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
"...The next key step came in 1950, when the International Organisations Division (IOD) was set up"
"... the CIA fostered and promoted American Abstract Expressionist painting around the world for more than 20 years."
I would suggest over decades with older press staff and now the next web 2.0 generations too.
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Re:Sub Reddits that still aren't banned...
From the link below...
Yishan Wong, the chief executive officer of Reddit, has tried to explain why the site has not banned certain subreddits (sections of the website where users share items connected to a specific topic) despite banning the subreddit which contained the stolen pictures of nude celebrities.
In a Reddit thread under the title “Every Man Is Responsible For His Own Soul” [sic], Mr Wong wrote: “I did not say ‘we won’t ban any subreddits ever’. I said that we don’t ban subreddits for being morally bad. We do ban subreddits for breaking our rules, and one of them is repeatedly and primarily being a place where people post copyrighted material for which valid DMCA requests are being received.”
Essentially, the company refuses to ban subreddits for being “morally bad” but will if they break any laws or any of the website’s own rules.
http://i100.independent.co.uk/...
This seems just a little disingenuous, considering the content of some subreddits that still exist. For instance:
Racism
There are hundreds of subreddits that are racist in tone and content. Many use the N-word in their titles or draw comparisons between black people and apes. One discusses the riots in Ferguson, which it describes as “ChimpOut 2014”. In another subreddit, users share video clips and images of black men who are either dead or about to die, usually in violent circumstances. Despite the subreddit combining violent images and racist terminology, it avoids being banned by not directly inciting or calling for violence.
Bestiality
Various subreddits discuss sex with animals. While the majority of these are fantasies, drawings or artwork, there are videos of people engaging in sex acts with animals or describing their personal experiences. Zoophilia is a felony in most of the US, but is only a misdemeanour in California where Reddit is based.
Animal abuse
On the opposite end of the spectrum, a subreddit exists where users shares images of injured or dead animals, not to raise awareness but as a joke and add their own pithy headline. The images range from innocent pictures of autopsies or hanging meat, to images of road kill (a dog missing its rear legs and abdomen), poaching victims (a rhino with its horn torn off) and even full-blown animal cruelty, including videos of men beating animals.
Creep shots
Reddit got into trouble in 2012 over
/r/creepshots, a subreddit where users shared sexualised pictures of women they had secretly taken. While the subreddit and similar ones were taken down, clones of it still exist, the names of which we will not share.Self-harm
One of the Reddit rules restated by Mr Wong is that “Actions which cause or are likely to cause imminent physical danger (e.g. suicides, instructions for self-harm, or specific threats)” are prohibited. Yet somehow a subreddit filled with nothing but pictures of self-harm persists.
All sorts of misogyny
If it’s misogynistic, it will eventually find itself on Reddit. For instance, there are separate subreddits dedicated to killing, beating and raping women. While the subreddit
/r/beatingwomen is banned, a clone page is still active. In some cases these are either fantasies or simply users sharing porn videos of consenting adult performers, but some of the content goes beyond the pale, or links to subreddits aboutDead women
A subreddit exists where users shares pictures of dead bodies (almost all of them women) described in sexualised terms (“Morgue babes”, “fit young thing”, “gorgeous Brazilian girl with bullet wounds.”).
The images on the subreddit are either from crime scenes or accidents such as car crashes, or of bodies in
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Sub Reddits that still aren't banned...From the link below...
Yishan Wong, the chief executive officer of Reddit, has tried to explain why the site has not banned certain subreddits (sections of the website where users share items connected to a specific topic) despite banning the subreddit which contained the stolen pictures of nude celebrities.
In a Reddit thread under the title “Every Man Is Responsible For His Own Soul” [sic], Mr Wong wrote: “I did not say ‘we won’t ban any subreddits ever’. I said that we don’t ban subreddits for being morally bad. We do ban subreddits for breaking our rules, and one of them is repeatedly and primarily being a place where people post copyrighted material for which valid DMCA requests are being received.”
Essentially, the company refuses to ban subreddits for being “morally bad” but will if they break any laws or any of the website’s own rules.
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Re:The biggest risk to the pyramids is Islam
Egyptian Muslims have already called for the destruction of the pyramids and the sphinx, juts like the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
A few radicals =/= an entire country/culture. But don't let that get in the way of a good old generalization.
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Here come the Samsung fanboys...
Here comes the parade of Samsung fanboys to make up memes that downplay the significance of the patents in question, because clearly Samsung has never violated laws in order to take over a market...
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Re:The biggest risk to the pyramids is Islam
Egyptian Muslims have already called for the destruction of the pyramids and the sphinx, juts like the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
A couple of nut jobs does not equal "Egyptian Muslims"
I could use the same logic to say "American Christians lynch blacks!" or "American leftists bomb universities!"
The Muslim religion is the largest in the world, and the vast majority of Muslims don't murder, rape, terrorize, etc... I suspect that in 50yrs time people will look back on this time in Muslim history in the same way we now look back on the civil rights movement. The only difference will be, American Christians killed a lot more people in a lot more barbaric ways.
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The biggest risk to the pyramids is Islam
Egyptian Muslims have already called for the destruction of the pyramids and the sphinx, juts like the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
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Re:News for nerds ...
You might wanna read this list [List of Nobel Laureates]
This is funny... Nobel was a last name of the man, who set up the annual prize. Becoming a laureate does not automatically make one noble (Yassir Arafat and Barack Obama are two most obvious examples.)
Of course, if "lately" doesn't mean "last 6 months" or something like that.
Yes, it does mean something like that. Support for Putin in Russia shot up , when he invaded the "brotherly nation". Thus, the vast majority of Russians today are rather ignoble... Even the "liberals" among them (referred to as "liberasts" by the pro-Kremlin majority), who acknowledge, that seizing Crimea was illegal, still feel, that it was nonetheless just somehow.
That Mr. Monakhov is not only opposing Putin, but is not afraid to make it known, makes him an outstanding Russian indeed. That he also happens to be an open-source developer, makes the story new
/.-worthy.When many other people get flat-out killed in too-many-to-count conflicts all around the world, you'd think this is a big story?
Neither this story, nor the earlier one I referred to, are about people killed in conflicts around the world.
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Re:Now "Neanderthal man" is a compliment
Those having no Neanderthal genes are so stupid compared to those having Neanderthal genes.
As it happens this is completely true.
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Re:Articles on the elementary education imbalance?
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Re:Told ya...
You seem to cling to the illusion, don't you? Mother Theresa's charity got _billions_ in donations over its lifetime. More than enough to spend more than $50 million dollars on Mother Theresa's air travels alone. Which could have been enough to buy strong analgesics for those who really needed them (hint: not EVERYBODY in her Homes). And her organization also spent at least tens of millions on anti-abortion and anti-contraception propaganda.
Basically every study that tries to look into the matters in details comes to the same conclusion - she was a fraud and a fanatic. The most recent one: http://www.independent.co.uk/v...