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"Who gives a flying shit what the German idiots said about Opera?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @07:17PM (#31703500)

You evidently do, because you OPENED YOUR BIG MOUTH, in your trolling me... lol, and now? Now you can't back up your b.s. (especially when you stated the Germans said to "stay away from Opera" & you cannot produce proof of where they did so - however, I did, as regards Germans stating that about FireFox &/or Internet Explorer).

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"I quoted a LEGITIMATE SECURITY COMPANY. You fail, but that was really a nice try." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @07:17PM (#31703500)

Uhm, first of all: WHERE WAS THAT? I did so, using reports from SECUNIA.COM (a totally legit & respected site for security vulnerabilities on programs & OS', etc./et al) - I didn't see YOU using any such thing at any point here... show me where you did in THIS exchange/debate you & I are having... ok? Thanks.

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"Trolling all my posts is a nice touch, too. LOL, the last act of a desperate child!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @07:17PM (#31703500)

LOL, what are you talking about? You came into 2 of my posts, in this thread about GERMANY STATING TO ITS PEOPLES TO "STEER CLEAR OF FIREFOX", and YOU? YOU did that, albeit, to me... talk about the "pot calling the kettle black".

Your profane reaction & name tossing only serves to show you don't like having done to you, what YOU DO TO OTHERS (first on your part no less)... what's the matter? You go and "tick someone off" & they exposed you for some screwup your big mouth made happen?? Well, that's what you get when your big mouth writes checks your dull brain doesn't have the know-how to back up & ca$h!

APK

P.S.=> Back up your b.s. here then, which I will now requote (Quit AVOIDING my questions troll: Prove what YOU stated, which I quote you in below next):

"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal

B.S. - again, find where THE GERMAN GOV'T. SAID "Don't use Opera", as they did with IE & FF... see here below (and this very article of course also):

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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html [independent.ie]

and

German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181 [techradar.com]

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You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera", though you said they did, quoted above no less - & yet, the Germans have never done so, afaik @ least!

(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk

Quit AVOIDING my questions troll: Prove what YOU stated, which I quote you in below next:

"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal

B.S. - again, find where THE GERMAN GOV'T. SAID "Don't use Opera", as they did with IE & FF... see here below (and this very article of course also):

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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html

and

German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181

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(You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera" - they have never done so, afaik @ least!)

APK

P.S.=> You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!)... apk

"Show me an article from a legitimate and reputable website that states that about Firefox CURRENTLY." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @03:36PM (#31702336)

What? At the start date of this article I certainly could, & did!

Here they are, once more:

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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html

and

German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181

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BY WAY OF COMPARISON/By the same token, on YOUR part however? You NEVER could put up one that backs what you said (which I requote below), & that was that Germany said the same of Opera, as it did of FF & IE (which was, "stay away", in essence).

(Clue - check the date of those URL's I put up in my last post, that clearly state that Germany's gov't. said "steer clear" of FF + IE, & then? THEN, check the start date of this thread start date... "m'kay"?)

They were URL's noted above in my last post no less that match the date of THIS article on /. here...

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So, once more - prove what YOU stated, which I will once again post for you troll:

"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal

B.S. - again, find where THE GERMAN GOV'T. SAID "Don't use Opera", as they did with IE & FF...

(You'll never find it - they have never done so, afaik @ least!)

APK

P.S.=> You're either "think" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN"... thank you!)... apk

"Certainly: "They never came for Opera". They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378)

Show us an article from a legitimate and reputable website that states that currently please. There's no reason for them to currently anyhow, lol! Why? Well... that's simply because Opera has NO KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES IN IT PRESENTLY either, by the way (see here):

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Now - I do know that Germany said to stay away from both IE &/or FireFox, with proofs no less of that much rencently:

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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html

and

German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181

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However, I have yet to see that said of Opera by the German government.

So, that "all said & aside"? Well, per your quote above: Please produce your evidence of that quoted statement of yours above, and of any known security vulnerabilities in Opera.

(Thank you).

The reason I ask this, is simple: The German government even ADVISED THAT FOLKS SWITCH TO OPERA (doubtless because of its not having any known security vulnerabilities presently, per my SECUNIA.COM evidence thereof, above, no less)... see here:

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"The German government is thus advising its citizens to use alternative browsers such as Mozilla's Firefox, Google Chrome, Apple Safari or Opera."

http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181

FireFox had a bug in 3.6 though, & Chrome bore multiple KNOWN vulnerabilities recently (now patched though) & it's not nearly as fast as Opera is (none of them are, especially on the most used OS platform there is, in Windows), BUT, Apple's Safari currently does -> http://secunia.com/advisories/product/25519/ ...

Guess that leaves Opera then, eh? Lmao... Ah, man - "too, Too, TOO EASY!". Just too easy...

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Oh, also: Not "too clever" of you trying to laughingly "get that last word on me" - I won't allow it, lol! You're going to have to wake up a LOT earlier in the a.m., to even THINK I would let the "likes of you" (lol) even TRY to "get the better of", me.

APK

P.S.=> By the way, Clone (or, shall I say Sprocket, lol (your "alter ego" here no doubt)): Do you like the band, Alice in Chains??

If so, please - DO go to a doctor, & ask him to "Check My Brain"...

(Your brain that is, lol, & for its actual existence inside your cranium, because I believe that your brain, like your inability to produce a statement of the German's explicitly stating that their peoples stay away from Opera (as they had for both IE &/or FF above), or that Opera has known security issues currently, doesn't exist (lmao))... apk

"Certainly: "They never came for Opera". They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378)

Show us an article from a legitimate and reputable website that states that currently please. There's no reason for them to currently anyhow, lol! Why? Well... that's simply because Opera has NO KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES IN IT PRESENTLY either, by the way (see here):

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Now - I do know that Germany said to stay away from both IE &/or FireFox, with proofs no less of that much rencently:

German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html

and

German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181

However, I have yet to see that said of Opera by the German government.

Please produce your evidence of that quoted statement of yours above, and of any known security vulnerabilities in Opera.

(Thank you).

Oh, also: Not "too clever" of you trying to laughingly "get that last word on me" - I won't allow it, lol!

APK

P.S.=> By the way, Clone (or, shall I say Sprocket, lol (your "alter ego" here no doubt)): Do you like the band, Alice in Chains??

If so, please - DO go to a doctor, & ask him to "Check My Brain"...

(Your brain that is, lol, & for its actual existence inside your cranium, because I believe that your brain, like your inability to produce a statement of the German's explicitly stating that their peoples stay away from Opera (as they had for both IE &/or FF above), or that Opera has known security issues currently, doesn't exist (lmao))... apk

...a Massachusetts teenager, she'd just moved over from Ireland. 2 of the charges were for statutory rape, another for threats with weapons. Not a lolol-facebook-online bullying situation as some seem to be suggesting. http://www.independent.ie/national-news/nine-students-charged-over-suicide-of-tragic-irish-teenager-2116877.html

You are closer to the truth than you think: the fertilizer they were spreading was actually urea!

Not to sound melodramatic, but this is probably the most terrifying sentiment I've heard on /., and it disturbs me that I'm hearing it more often.

If you're hearing it more often, it might be because more people are starting to realize it's true.

You clearly pulled that number out of your ass. People can go through all sorts of trauma and lead fairly normal lives after. Kids are especially known for being able to "rebound" from trauma. Being sexually abused doesn't make you somehow less-human and less capable of being "normal". This is a stereotype that's more damaging than you realize.

"trauma" like parents divorcing, maybe. Sexual abuse, no. See for example: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/victim-became-suicidal-over-sex-assaults-in-church-sacristy-1978724.html

They don't feel a need to obey speed limits

What percentage of motorised vehicle drivers don't feel a need to obey speed limits? Two thirds? 80%? 87%? As subgroups of vehicle operator go, cyclists are not the problem - the majority of cyclists would have difficulty breaking the limit in a 15mph zone, nevermind anything higher.

It's like watching V for Vendetta in real life. 0.o

it gets worse

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/all-email-text-and-phone-records-to-be-kept-for-2-years-1820026.html

The records of every email, text and phone call will soon be kept to facilitate criminal investigations.

New laws will be published today obliging internet service providers to store data of email and website activity for a year.

All phone and text traffic from everyone in the country will also be stored for a two-year period.

The GardaÃ, the army and the Revenue Commissioners can access the information as part of investigations into serious crime.

Justice Minister Dermot Ahern says it will be well monitored.

âoeItâ(TM)s very important that the police are able to insist that the data be retained by the Internet companies so that they can prove cases against these people who peddle child porn,â Mr Ahern told RTE radio today as he published the Communications (Retention of Data) Bill.

The Bill implements an EU directive which brings Ireland into line with other EU member states.

small bit offtopic

but theres no mention on slashdot of the new 1984 style big brother law coming in in Ireland :(

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/all-email-text-and-phone-records-to-be-kept-for-2-years-1820026.html

I didn't in fact think it had had much coverage, thought it was more an email-forward thing just in Ireland, but here is actually a news article from Irish Independent newspaper with the aforementioned image:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/iran-on-track-with-help-of-irish-rail-1767781.html

Apologies for earlier deprivation of visual depiction of Internet-aided and reported oddity from around the world.

Seeing as Google is being investigated for tying up with evil to reduce competition.

http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/apple-and-google-board-ties-examined-1729415.html

U2 moved their tax status there to avoid paying Irish taxes:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/u2s-tax-move-is-defended-by-bands-manager-79319.html

or just google u2+tax to see all the hits you get.

Yeah, you're REALLY gonna need to cite that.

Are you REALLY that lazy, or do you just feel the need to feign ignorance?

I heard about it on TV, months ago, so I don't have a URL handy, but you know, the first handful of search results are perfectly good:

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art43105.asp
http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/feature/2003/05/06/breeding/index.html
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/parenting/children-do-not-make-couples-any-happier-1245184.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1941195/Marriage-without-children-the-key-to-bliss.html
http://www.newsweek.com/id/143792

You may be happier for a few years, but if your last decades are spent wishing you had a family, are you really happier overall?

You're assuming you'll be wishing for a family if you don't have one. You're REALLY going to need to cite that!

How many people are on bad terms with their families? How many people raise children, only to have them turn out as selfish, sociopaths, criminals, etc.?

Raising children also happens to be an unimaginable amount of endless, thankless, work.

Ok, so impose as much taxes as you want, and depend on the generosity of the services and the customers to keep your governments running. I'm sure that will work out well.

Moving makes sense when it makes sense. There are a lot of factors in making a decision to close a store or not, especially when you are a large corporation looking to trim the fat. Why hire a whole new division to deal with collecting and distributing funds from this new tax (which costs $X) when your presence in that state only nets $Y (when Y
Also, there is no need for personal insults. We have a philosophical difference. There is no need to call me stupid of crazy.

"The criminals, who you really want to capture, are the very people who will take the trouble to know how to get around this, so although they will possibly leave digital footprints, it could be extremely difficult to find them"

Why do the government need to spy on us to protect us from the terr'ists? Clicking here may adversly affect your employment prospects, as well making any kind of public protest ..

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"Without privacy, there cannot be freedom, and without freedom, there cannot be personal or social growth, freedom of speech without freedom of response is meaningless"

The population of Ireland is somewhere around 6 million - what does every *else* do there?

The population is actually closer to 4 million, and what we mostly do is build and sell houses to each other with other peoples money. Or at least, that used to be the idea.

After clicking past the blog speedbump to the actual article I can see why the airline is doing this. The airline has their own website which handles the booking and also ties in other services like hotels, car rentals, insurance, and so on. These third party websites aren't going through an established booking system, instead they are screen scraping and acting as a front-end to the airline's website. This would be like a third party mirroring Slashdot's stories without Slashdot's advertisements, costing Slashdot revenue.

Using the airline's website in this manner is not only illegal but it also causes a lot of slowdowns and other problems for the people who actually go to the airline's website.

Now the airline is punishing the wrong people by canceling all the bookings done through the third parties. The right thing to do would be to allow the passengers to keep their bookings, but then sue the third party website. Yes, canceling the booking will cause more trouble for the third party sites but it will also mess up the customers and give them a bad impression of the airline, also hurting their business.

Maybe the easiest thing to do is to have some sort of partner network where they provide access to their booking system for the third parties for a fee while they mess up the screen scrapers with technology and lawsuits. This would make their booking system more accessible while providing a side revenue stream for people who don't use the airline's website and all the extra money makers on there.

this is inventing news

This is the Daily Mail. I would not put it past them.

The critical uncertainty is whether or not the other guy would've done the same with regards to charity. Think about -that- one for a while.

As if that would have made any difference.

The critical uncertainty is whether or not the other guy would've done the same with regards to charity. Think about -that- one for a while.

As if that would have made any difference.

The critical uncertainty is whether or not the other guy would've done the same with regards to charity. Think about -that- one for a while.

As if that would have made any difference.

The subminiature phones are good news for a certain category of users that have a special, warm place in their, err, body for their small cell phone.

It would have surprised Shakespeare to learn that his plays were not the property of his theatrical company. It would have surprised him even more to see them performed by a rival.

Ummmm...no. He might've been pissed off (perhaps gotten involved in sword fight or an act of petty revenge), but the playhouses & writers of those times copied & ripped each other off all the time - Shakespeare is well-known for the amount of stuff he ripped off from his contemporaries.

Here and here are links which mention the copyright context in Shakespeare's time. The first link is specifically about Shakespeare & describes how he had to fight to make money from his plays, and the 2nd mentions Shakespeare briefly in the context of an argument of why copyright is a good idea (which I don't necessarily agree with), but both of them are fairly straightforward that copyright as we know it did not exist in Shakespeare's time, and that he did not depend on copyright in order to make a living.

I can't find a citation at the moment, but a guy in the UK went into a church and killed a bunch of people with a SWORD.

Here you go.

About half way down the page of this article is the quote

''To be honest, I was just avoiding the issue because I didn't know anything about patenting, she giggles. But I do now. And I will be looking into that.''

Wooops - there is more on this story on the Irish Independent newspaper

Wooops - there is more on this story on the Irish Independent newspaper