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There are more potential renegades than Motorola in their the Sybian ranks.
Samsung are about to announce their first Mobile Windows device.
A week ago, InfoSync ran a piece on the upcoming Microsofts Mobile Windows features.
Interesting reading.

There are more potential renegades than Motorola in their the Sybian ranks.
Samsung are about to announce their first Mobile Windows device.
A week ago, InfoSync ran a piece on the upcoming Microsofts Mobile Windows features.
Interesting reading.

Everything in the parent's post has been copied verbatim from that discussion. To wit:

• infoSync's coverage (Score:5, Informative)
  by holygoat (564732) on Tuesday October 28, @06:11AM (#7327703) http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4237.html
  
  Pictures, and running a damn sight faster than Nokia's site for me!
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  Nice try, but it's no Sidekick (Score:5, Informative)
  by ChaoticChaos (603248) * <l3sr-v4cf@sp[ ]x.com ['ame' in gap]> on Tuesday October 28, @06:14AM (#7327726) I keep waiting for a device that has the functionality of my T-Mobile Sidekick (IM, email, web browsing, phone, scheduler, notes, etc.) that is as thoughtfully made (screen flips up to reveal a solid thumb-board and every bit of data I enter is automatically backed up on T-Mobile's servers) that is anywhere close to the price point ($300).
  
  I bet this Nokia device is plenty expensive and I could send out an email 10 times faster with my Sidekick thumb-board than you could peck one out with the stylus on this device (if you could find your stylus ;-) ).
  
  http://www.t-mobile.com/products/overview.asp?ph on eid=195184
  
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  640x320 is pretty good! (Score:5, Interesting)
  by jeroenb (125404) on Tuesday October 28, @06:25AM (#7327812)
  (http://slashdot.org/) First thing I checked was ofcourse the screen's resolution and it turns out it sports 640x320 [nokia.com]. That's very good! Especially since close competitors (like the P900) only have 320x208 [sonyericsson.com]. Even some of the big-screen PDA's currently out like the Palm Tungsten T3 and the clamshell Sony Clie's only have 480x320. Even Sony's latest UX50 has that resolution [clieplaza.com] and if I'm not mistaken so does the latest Zaurus.
  
  640x320 is finally something you can seriously browse the web on!
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http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4237.html [infosyncworld.com]

Pictures, and running a damn sight faster than Nokia's site for me!

First thing I checked was ofcourse the screen's resolution and it turns out it sports 640x320 [nokia.com]. That's very good! Especially since close competitors (like the P900) only have 320x208 [sonyericsson.com]. Even some of the big-screen PDA's currently out like the Palm Tungsten T3 and the clamshell Sony Clie's only have 480x320. Even Sony's latest UX50 has that resolution [clieplaza.com] and if I'm not mistaken so does the latest Zaurus.

640x320 is finally something you can seriously browse the web on!

Stop complaining. These ugly & expensive & too big devices with too many funktions are the ones witch are making technology to walk forward. You don't have to buy it, some tech freaks will, and thx to them next generation devices are actually better.

the opera guys might be making real money now and i've got to say i'm happy for them. this and the other nokia series 60/90 phones all use opera for their web browser. that and a design win with adobe, and the fact that it runs natively on windows, linux, freeBSD, AND solaris. well, i think it's worth applauding the fact that small innovative comapnise CAN actually succeed on merit! well done guys... :-)

I keep waiting for a device that has the functionality of my T-Mobile Sidekick (IM, email, web browsing, phone, scheduler, notes, etc.) that is as thoughtfully made (screen flips up to reveal a solid thumb-board and every bit of data I enter is automatically backed up on T-Mobile's servers) that is anywhere close to the price point ($300).

I bet this Nokia device is plenty expensive and I could send out an email 10 times faster with my Sidekick thumb-board than you could peck one out with the stylus on this device (if you could find your stylus ;-) ).

http://www.t-mobile.com/products/overview.asp?ph on eid=195184

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4237.html

Pictures, and running a damn sight faster than Nokia's site for me!

Unfortunately, infoSyncWorld is down for maintenance at the moment, so I can't check up. I'm sure they've just launched a new range - I thought that it was that low, but I may be wrong.

Brighthand have this interesting snippet about how the Axim X5 (one of the earlier models) affected the industry:
The Axim X5 Basic offered what had previously been considered high-end features but for an entry-level price, only $200 after a rebate. This put tremendous price pressure on the competition and we're still feeling the effects. I sincerely believe that if the X5 series had not been released, every handheld currently available would cost $100 more than it does now.

That $230 unit still trashes my iPAQ, and competes with my Zaurus. Amazing indeed - and it's got a great screen and incredible battery life, especially compared to the Zaurus.

I think that actually, the Zaurus' features aren't enough to allow it to compete. I had to charge mine several times a day, and the screen was appalling. It doesn't matter how amazing it is having a portable Linux system - I'm still chained to a power supply. The newer PocketPCs get 8+ hours of usage, and the screens are astonishing.

I will be intrigued to see how this new model compares on those points.

Sony Ericsson P810/P900:
Club Sony Ericsson

XDA II:
infosync.nl

Digital Video Cameras:

Sony DCR-IP1 Micro MV
DCR-IP1

Samsung Digital Gadget ITCAM9 / ITCAM7
ITCAM9

since phonescoop.com seems to be down, here is another site with more info about the phone.

The key to this discussion isn't whether it is right or not to shut out independent clients or how much a sentence in a message is worth. This is a struggle from any big company to be able to keep customers in their own Private Garden with less choice where all money goes in one direction only.

There are analogies to electricity and telephones which started out as a free market but ended up in monopolies where you had only one choice. This was in the best interest of everyone at the time, but is still a major problem now when there are no real reason against several companies on the same physical network.

With the internet and mobile phones there are no such barriers stopping you from using, for example, your phone on another network. Instead there are a fenomenon called private gardens where you cannot use a "mobile phone" on the network, instead you get a crippled terminal usable only with one service provider.

This sounds OK when told by PR-people, new services can be introduced quickly and safely with less risk and you are free to choose the provider giving you the best complete package. In practice however this means that no services that are free or crosses the boundaries where you can no longer bill the customer can be allowed in your crippled phone (standard e-mail, independent answering machine, transferring of phone number to other device)

Microsoft might allow their service to be free, but only as long as they can dictate the means and make it an extension of their package - which you must buy to take advantage of all "new features".
Anyone interested in just getting a message through or in the telephone example, have a conversation, should look for less expensive alternatives.

Anyone with a better link analyzing private gardens?

I don't think I will upgrade to the T2, however, probably to the new Sony Clie UX50 instead.

You mean this?

Another article with more detailed information can be found at infoSync World.

Yes but the 100% statement is still wrong if that's the case. The SPV is also available in France (and possibly other countries in Europe where Orange operates). Don't know about the XDA. Also I forgot to mention the Neonode - a very nice looking Windows CE based phone from a Swedish start-up (apparently some of the guys behind the Sony Ericsson P800).

It's not really a PDA, it's a pocketable Linux computer.

First, the PDA side of things. People criticise it for having weak PDA features which, compared to Palms, and that's somewhat true; my previous Psion PDAs had a few extra features around the edges that I miss, but by and large the PIM features are fine for my moderately advanced use.

But there's so much more! SCUMMVM in the palm of your hand with mp3-encoded talkie versions of Fate of Atlantis or Day of the Tentacle is pretty nifty.Add a Wifi card, install Wellenwreiter or Kismet, and go low-profile warwalking. I have a Pocketop IR folding keyboard for long documentation on the go; the screen rotation software Just Works, unlike a lot of PocketPCs.

Unlike Palm owners, I can handle DOC and XLS files native on the device; this is particularly key because the Zaurus is a computer in its own right and not a PDA. The Hancom office apps shipped with it are usable enough for quick on-the-go editing and creation. I could do with one of these now for instant printing of invoices when I'm out at a client's site.

The big compelling piece of software is OpenZaurus, a completely open source and regularly updated distro to replace the Sharp ROM. It's a bit like trading Debian stable for unstable; kinda hacky at times, kinda buggy at others, but it's so exciting to get a massive batch of upgrades every few weeks full of improvements. It's never been buggy enough to lose my PDA data, and in any event with multisync, unison and rsync my data is backed up six ways to Sunday.

Other people like apps like opie-reader for ebooks, portable Ogg players (there are a few), portable DivX playback, email (this is noticeable ropy under OpenZaurus, but getting better), and many more... For more ideas, see this thread on zaurus.com.

Downsides? I find the QWERTY keyboard wearing after a few minutes, hence I have the Pocketop, and I've managed to scratch the screen under the handwriting recognition area so I can't really use it any more (I think that was my fault, to be fair). The battery life sucks too, but then it does on all these colour mobile devices. Apparently, the SL5600 is better.

So basically, if you want a PDA, get a Palm. If you want a pocketable Linux computer in a PDA form factor with respectable PIM features and a mountain of open source apps, get a Zaurus.

If you want a large keyboard but don't want to carry around bigger things than your PDA there are fabric keyboards that double as a wrapper case.

A Tungsten gets 320x320 resolution out of a screen which is only .3 inches wider. Having owned a Treo 270 for a year now, I can attest that trying to browse the internet on a 160x160 screen is a massive waste of time and a great way to get a detached retina. I think PalmSprings really screwed the pooch in that department. I'm so glad they put that awesome 680x480 camera on there instead. I'm starting to think maybe giving up a thumbpad to get a screen which can actually render a web site is my only option. I guess it's a Samsung SGH-i500 for me.

Yes, the keypad on the SPV is terrible. This was fixed, however, on the 2nd iteration of the device -- the Tanager (or SPVx or QTek 7070 depending on who's selling it.) One of many pictures of the new device: http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/3639.html

Here's the first hit off of Google that references the Maui. There doesn't seem to be a speaker and mic, the phone feature is probably done through a headset (blech).

If any of these cards worked the Zaurus would be the killer mobile voice and data platform. I for once can ssh into our servers from Barnes & Noble.

If any of these cards worked the Zaurus would be the killer mobile voice and data platform. I for once can ssh into our servers from Barnes & Noble.

InfoSync also has a news bit regarding an Ogg Vorbis(-only for now) player for the Sony Ericsson P800 cellphone. Now just think of you could have Ogg Vorbis ringtones ;)

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Infosync's full review of the Zire 71

Review on infosyncworld.

The main gripe they have is the lack of Bluetooth, and that the IR diode isn't any stronger.

But are there not Bluetooth cards for the SD port?

At first I was mildly intrigued by the look of the 3650, and since T-Mobile (my carrier in AZ) actually offers the phone directly, I did some looking around... bottom line, pass on it (IMHO).

Others have pointed out the flaky Nokia bluetooth stuff, and the lack of syncml might actually be a bigger minus that I would have thought initially (I have an Ericsson R520 with all sorts of features, syncml among them, and I am just now starting to exercise the phone's feature set).

The keypad has to go.

I usually stop by here to get some phone scoopage (there are certainly many, many other sites as well). They have a review of the 3650 at the bottom-- or use the review search feature-- with the final thoughts (on page 3 of the review) rather humorous, but probably too true to be ignored.

Also on that site I found a review of the Siemens S55 which made me want to read more about the current and upcoming Siemens offerings. On the same site yet again is an article covering just that topic, about the upcoming SX1 and others from Siemens. The SX1 looks like it takes alternative keypad design in a slightly more functional direction.

Having tried out the Jabra FreeSpeak with my R520 (successfully and satisfactorily), and with a need to use some WAP and other wireless networking features lately, I am utterly convinced that getting a phone that does what you want it to do-- well-- is essential. Look past the buzz, get what will meet your needs, and pay attention to those details about keypad quality, low-light screen readability, and other such mundane details.

But that SX1 still looks cool...

At first I was mildly intrigued by the look of the 3650, and since T-Mobile (my carrier in AZ) actually offers the phone directly, I did some looking around... bottom line, pass on it (IMHO).

Others have pointed out the flaky Nokia bluetooth stuff, and the lack of syncml might actually be a bigger minus that I would have thought initially (I have an Ericsson R520 with all sorts of features, syncml among them, and I am just now starting to exercise the phone's feature set).

The keypad has to go.

I usually stop by here to get some phone scoopage (there are certainly many, many other sites as well). They have a review of the 3650 at the bottom-- or use the review search feature-- with the final thoughts (on page 3 of the review) rather humorous, but probably too true to be ignored.

Also on that site I found a review of the Siemens S55 which made me want to read more about the current and upcoming Siemens offerings. On the same site yet again is an article covering just that topic, about the upcoming SX1 and others from Siemens. The SX1 looks like it takes alternative keypad design in a slightly more functional direction.

Having tried out the Jabra FreeSpeak with my R520 (successfully and satisfactorily), and with a need to use some WAP and other wireless networking features lately, I am utterly convinced that getting a phone that does what you want it to do-- well-- is essential. Look past the buzz, get what will meet your needs, and pay attention to those details about keypad quality, low-light screen readability, and other such mundane details.

But that SX1 still looks cool...

Here is another article about TI's WANDA.