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Nokia 3650 Released in US Market
A Swing Dancing Dork writes "Check out the new Nokia 3650! Video and still imaging, MMS support,Bluetooth,Triband, and polyphonic bliss all wraped up in a uber-modern package." I was looking phones all morning so I'm glad this showed up. Anyone have advice on cel phones? I'd like IMAP, HTTP, and IM, as well as PDA functionality that can sync via bluetooth to a Mac. I was looking at the Sony Ericsons, but this may work as well.
Two words - T-Mobile's Sidekick. Color units are coming in a month or two. Has SMS, full HTML web browsing (not WAP!), POP3 email, AIM messaging, scheduler, notes, games, hidden keyboard! GSM/GPRS device. Uber c00l!
All of your data is fully backed up to Danger's servers so there is never a chance of losing anything. Unbeatable deal for less than $100 with unlimited data for $39.95 a month.
No IMAP or syncing via Bluetooth though.
I was just about to buy one yesterday but they were just too big. I really wanted a phone with speakerphone and BT, and this seems to be the only one that I can get on T-Mobile or Cingular.
Went for a T68i instead. It'll have to do for now (atleast it has BT).
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IMAP...yeah, ok. HTTP...cool. IM...sure, why not. PDA functionality...interesting.
POLYPHONIC RING TONES!!!! All right, I'm there baby!
Chaos, panic, disorder...my work here is done.
Now the US is still playing catch up, and I'll bet US cell phone companies will charge you a arm and a leg, ensuring such features are relegated as a novelty for marketing or a small niche of people, like police or real estate work.
I only wish Japan was on the GSM standard, so that I could use my J-phone while overseas.
-- Samir Gupta, Ph. D. Head, New Technology Research Group, Nintendo Co. Ltd., Kyoto, Japan.
how irritatating it would be to try and dial that thing, with the buttons not layed out in the traditional, muscle memory configuration. Oh sure, you can use voice recognition, or look up numbers on a list, but even with all that enabled, I still end up *dialing* my phone about 50 - 60% of the time, and trying to deal with that keypad combination would suck, especially with numbers where you can only remember it by dialing it.
Dude, I think I can see my house from here.
I saw this device yesterday at the AT&T wireless store in the mall of america. Two word - it sucked. Sure it had a great camera, and big screen - but the buttons felt cheap, the device is huge, and feels realy lcheap in your hands. The 5 way navigator didn't click down very well, and.. you get my point. I think the size of this thing kills it. Sitting right next to it was some uber tiny color nokia that i really liked . It had a much nicer feel to it - nokia has good and bad designs.
As for a perfect cell phone i would wait for the Sony Ericsson T608 and T610 (CDMA/GPRS respectivly) They are compeltly new phones with the features of the t68i and more. I can't wait for them to be released.
What about something that can sync up with Linux using bluetooth.
Don't get one.
Just one more thing to lose.
Just one more way for others to annoy you.
Just one more way you can annoy your fellow man.
Anybody see the unauthorized realistic but bootleg commercial advertising this phone on the Net? I had a link to it but it has been since taken down by Nokia's Lawyars.
.mpg's I have seen in a while.
It depicted a couple of zany guys taking a picture of a cat swinging from a celieng fan with this phone. Had the realistic Nokia logo and everything.
Rumor had it that the commercial was put together by one of the ad firms in charge of (or denided) Nokia's account and leaked on to the Net from there.
Definatly one of the most halarious
I was looking phones all morning so I'm glad this showed up. Anyone have advice on cel phones? I'd like IMAP, HTTP, and IM, as well as PDA functionality that can sync via bluetooth to a Mac. I was looking at the Sony Ericsons, but this may work as well.
Maybe you should add spell check and grammar check to that list.
I dont know about you, but I still use the old Motorola "Brick" as it was/is known. It has been runover by my truck (other story) and it suffered a broken antenna... thats it. I dont know if newer is better.
I just got call tags sent so that I can return mine to ATT. The phone is good. It has good rf performance, better than my T68i. But... It claims to be bluetooth audio, but doesn't work with any bluetooth headset but Nokias. It only works with the bluetooth 'handsfree' profile, not the headset profile that most bluetooth headsets obviously support.
It does synch over bluetooth with outlook, but the alarm for calendar events is fixed. You can't shut it off without silencing the whole phone (or turning it off). I was awakened at midnight the other night by an alarm for my mom's birthday. I like my mom and all, but that sucks. I want to be able to have just visual alarms for calendar events.
For $150, it's a nice phone, it just has a few issues. I'll wait for the P800 to be available through ATT. For now, I really do like my old T68i better.
One trait I always look for when purchasing phones...can I dial it while driving, and not have to look at the phone? My Motorola T720 certainly meets this criteria... it has large buttons, including a concave "5" button in the center with a small point it its middle.
This phone on the other hand, with its circular dial pad, can't come close to meeting this criteria. Nokia seems to have been trying to make it more and more difficult to dial their phones using the keypad, and this particular model seems to be quite the shining example of their hard efforts.
I'd love to have bluetooth, a multi-megapixel camera, and video capability too. But personally, these features rank a little lower on the list than being able to effectively use the device as a telephone.
And please, no rants about driving and using a cell phone. I saw you talking on yours while holding up traffic in the fast lane yesterday.
What has *science* done?!? -- Dr. Weird (ATHF)
Disclaimer: I work in the CDMA industry. Not that I am biased or anything. :)
But my advice holds. Comparing CDMA to GSM is like comparing Linux and Windows. The only advantage of GSM is the installed base.
Magnus.
Bah! How about a phone? Just more useless crap to drive the price up and make people trade up for the newest model.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Am I the only one that doesn't care if I can play games and take pictures with a PHONE? These things bug the hell out of me. They REALLY need to come up with a better word than PHONE to use for something where the communicative abilities have obviously taken a back seat to solitaire.
ALSO, is there anything more COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID than TEXT MESSAGING someone from a PHONE, where you could type less and ACTUALLY CALL THEM? GRRRRRRR......
'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.
I had a T68i via ATT for a week, and returned it for a Motorola T720. the T68i was a great phone in pretty much every way except that its signal strength simply wasn't adequate in lots of places I need to be (Portland airport, San Jose). The T720 works great for me in places where the T68i would cut out constantly. I do miss the Bluetooth, though.
I looked at the new Nokias, but I just couldn't hack the weird number pad. Yeesh.
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Here is the latest story from an advertising trade rag. Here is the link to the commercial if you just can't wait.
That crazy raghead fraud is spouting more complete nonsense. If there was really a Samir Gupta at nintendo, I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate you stealing his identity, however, THERE IS NO SAMIR GUPTA listed as a VP in any nintendo division. Sad it is, that you have nothing better to do than prete nd to be someone who doesn't exist.
Judging from the product's webpage they are marketing to gay cowboys.... I hope that everyone gets the same picture and nokia hasn't set up some rotating images because that guy is seriously funny looking with that hat...
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MMS support,Bluetooth,Triband, and polyphonic bliss
I'd like IMAP, HTTP, and IM, PDA functionality that can sync via bluetooth to a Mac
Funny, I have no desire for so many functions. I just want a phone & phone service that doesn't drop my calls, has long battery life, comes with cheap monthly service, and that lets me keep my current cell phone number even if I switch to a different company...
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
Say goodbye to dialing numbers in the dark with that fscking pad... then when you finally get used to it and go and try to use your housephone it will take you roughly 4 minutes to dial 10 digits.
Wtf was Nokia thinking? What happened to ease of use and ergonomics?
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*klik* *beep*
"Huh?"
*klik* *klik* *klik* *beep* *beep* *beep*
"Stupid thing..."
*klik*klik*klik*klik*klik*klik* *beep*beep*beep*beep*beep*beep*
"Martha! The TV remote's not working and it's making these weird beeping sounds!"
"That's your cell phone, dear."
Warning: Poster of this comment is a nerd. Just like everybody else here.
For what these things cost, you could buy a cell phone, digital camera, and PDA, all of which will have better specs than the phone. If you skimp a bit on the camera and PDA, you can add an mp3 player too.
Considering that, what is the point of this combo phone? It's huge, I want my cell phone to be tiny so I can have it at the bottom of a pocket and forget about it. Another point, what happens when you want to upgrade one of the parts, with the combo-phone you lose everything and have to re-buy it all.
To top things off, the 3650 is ugly, and why do they put the buttons in a ring around the bottom of the phone? Do they think it's a dial? It will make dialing numbers much harder and typing text on that thing will be a horrible experience.
Jason
ProfQuotes
The video that made the phone popular:
http://ih8ufkr.com/humor/nokia.avi
Origins at snopes.
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cel phone call YOU!!!
teh 1337 uber hax0r b307ch
I'll stick w/ my Samsung I330 thank you. It has all of these features already.
I'm out of my mind right now, but feel free to leave a message.....
http://www.marketingfix.com/archives/nokia_cat_swi nging_video_causes_storm.php
I already have a PDA. Why would I want one with a miniature screen and sub-standard functionality? Why should I pay for this duplication? I just want my phone to sync its phonebook with my PDA. End of story.
Any further info on when these are coming out? These really hit the sweet spot for me. Good design, nice phone.
T-Mobile is by far the friendliest provider I've dealt with, and after spending a few hours of my life over the year with other providers (Sprint PCS ehem) I'm willing to have that count for something.
They have some good plans and let you unlock your phone after a bit.
Even though the treo and some small-screen MS smartphones are out there - I think slashdotters wont be happy until they have a full blown VOICE cdma CF-type-II expansion card that they can use with American network. Sure these new phone can do pictures and all, but they just aren't very customizable. People want to add cellphone capability to their much adored bleeding-edge PDA's.
Audiovox just released the RTM-8000 for the European crowd - a Tri-Band GPRS/GSM CF card that can be used with existing pocket PCs. How long until the US gets one? Is there already something like this out there for the states? Mind you I want to do VOICE, not just have a wifi modem that I can get overcharged for.
While I'm as gadgetfixated as anyone, I need my phone for one thing; to make calls. And maybe the occosinal SMS. I don't need a PDA (thats what my Palm is about), and I don't need to spend a shitload of cash for WAPing (I'm not that rich, and I can survive without checking my e-mail a few hours). So, since this phone don't offer me any significant increce on the things I deam inportant (batterylife mostly), I'll stick to me 5110 a few more years.
Everything in the world is controlled by a small, evil group to which, unfortunately, no one you know belongs.
It's nice to see those full featured cell phone hitting the market...but the price are always too high for the use I would do.
What I need is a simple tri-band phone, small and efficient, with a chip, but without cam or other stuff that I don't need.
The Ericsson T39 is the kind of phone I'm looking, but still pricey on ebay.
I would love to see a small/cheap phone coming on the market this year.
Is there anyone else out there who uses their cell phone to place and recieve phone calls, or am I all alone now?
Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
"Sure these new phone can do pictures and all, but they just aren't very customizable."
Why not? You can install or write own Java applications for the new cell phones.
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Basically you are paying 2 to 3 times more and getting less quality solution then if you just bought things like a digital camera and pda, and cell phone seperatly. Just about all cell phones will have the ability to access the internet, and most decent pda's can connect to your cell phone as well as connect to your digital camera, thus being able to send "pictures" through your cell phone (at much higher quality at that).
Yeah yeah there is the "prestige" of owning the all in one device, but until that all in one device is as good in all its functions as the other devices are seperatly, I would rather own the devices seperatly (I'm just a power freak, I prefer quality over compactness almost every time).
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
This phone doesn't support SyncML, so the chances of you syncing with your Mac anytime soon are slim. Nokia does provide PC software to allow syncing with your Windows PC, though.
And as for Bluetooth, once again Nokia has failed to implement the headset profile, although it does support the newer handsfree profile. I can't seem to find any details on the differences between the two but what it does mean for sure is that of the current Bluetooth headsets available, only the SonyEricson HBH-60 and the soon-to-arrive Nokia HDW-2 support that profile. Nokia is known for their poor and buggy Bluetooth support (they must hate that their rival Ericsson invented it) and they do seem to try the "embrace and extend" scheme once in a while - they want you to buy their Bluetooth device and not someone else's. They've used the headset profile in the 6310i, but that's it for the US market.
It's hard not to support SonyEricsson (especially the Ericsson part) when they've made Bluetooth a licensed standard, and when they put things like SyncML, an open syncing standard, on their phones. And don't forget the SonyEricsson Clicker which is just plain cool.
A good review of the 3650 is here.
"Where quality is like a dead stinking rat - you just can't miss it."
Not me. It's a telephone. It's excessively expensive and no one ever really uses all those 'features'.
I'm very happy with the Kyocera,
the new smartphone from Verizon
IMHO it's worth time looking at individual apps
on wireless PDA sites like Handango.
The right apps that fit your needs can make
a huge difference in your satisfaction.
Cheers, Joel
I have a Handspring Treo that I really get a kick out of. It works as a regular (although larger) flip phone when I need a phone, and as a PDA when I need a PDA. Today I was waiting at the salon to get my hair done, and while I was waiting, I was surfing Google and trying to find a good software package for one of my clients.
The Treo has AIM/Yahoo/MSN support thanks to VeriChat, which I highly recommend. I also use Top Gun SSH to SSH into my servers from anywhere.
Treo Central is the hookup for new software, and is also a good site for ringtones (if you're into them -- I like the wide selection of ringtones that come by default.)
Also, PalmNet lets you connect your Treo to your laptop and get 10K/sec Internet access wherever you can find a Sprint PCS connection.
All in all, if you need more than just a phone, the Treo is a winner. If you want just a phone, get just a phone... but even my boyfriend, who has one of those LG phones that you get for free with Verizon, gets jealous of me surfing around the Internet, playing games, and chatting when we're waiting in line for something.
The Treo is $149 right now. If you are a current Sprint PCS customer and you sign another 1-year Advantage agreement, you may be able to receive a service credit. I got a $200 credit [4 1/2 months free] just for signing up for another year, but I had to negotiate heavily.
Hope this helps...
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Huh? I guess I don't post enough as a troll to find out.
Is there a bluetooth capable phone that has over 3 hours realworld talktime? My dad uses his phone an insane amount and absolutly goes crazy if his phone's battery dies during the day. I would love to get him a bluetooth phone so I can put to gether a CE based invoicing program and have it fax the invoice through the cellphone.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
just carry around a laptop with PCMCIA cell phone?
Or why not just clip a 45" big screen TV on your belt?
Damn, are you so desperate for 24/7 entertainment that you HAVE to drag a theatre around with you??
So sad it is that you people can't just turn it off and walk away for a few hours.
I haven't watched a movie in a few years now.
I don't even listen to the radio when I drive. I just listen to the motor and my thoughts.
Have any of you ever tried that?? What do you do when the electricity goes out for a few hours?
Contemplate suicide because you can't get online and play a game or watch some new PPV movie??
Get a life...
So what's the current state of Slashdot feeling on Bluetooth these days? Anyone find it an essential part of their life?
Essential item, hot geek toy or useless boondoggle... any thoughts? (I ask because I remember the mass sceptism circa twelve months ago - or do you still prefer 802.11?)
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I wish this was a CDMA phone, from the web site it had it listed as GSM
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I am looking forward to the point when they have a bluetooth CDMA cell phone, I have the palm pilot tungsten t and a bluetooth adaptor for my laptop. I found that Jabra makes a bluetooth headset for non-bluetooth phones, but it only works for audio it does not do data. Here is the response I got from them when I asked about the headset.
The Bluetooth profile supports audio but not data. Sorry.
Thank you for contacting JABRA Customer Service.
Heather A. Fox
Customer Service Representative
800-327-2230
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael P. O'Connor [mailto:m.p.oconnor@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 4:10 PM
To: info@jabra.com
Subject: question about the FreeSpeak for non-bluetooth phone
I have the Qualcomm QCP-2760 phone and was wondering if this will also let other Bluetooth device to connect to the cell phone, so that I can use a Bluetooth pda to dial the phone, and to use both a laptop and the pda to connect to the internet via the cell phone thought the dial connection I have setup for the phone. Can I do data over the Bluetooth adaptor? Thanks for your time.
Michael P. O'Connor
m.p.oconnor@verizon.net
http://mikeoco
This has been talked about a lot on the Tungsten T mailing list on yahoo groups ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tungsten_T/
I used the 3650 for a day and loved it, but it's just too big. I picked up the 7210 instead and it's great. WAP, color screen, polyphonic ringtones, Java, speakerphone (works better than I thought), and an FM radio (which I don't think the 3650 has). Best of all it's only 2.9 ounces!
If your service provider is AT&T, you need to pick one up fast because they aren't going to be offering it any more. I had to call around to find a store that still had some.
Why is everyone whining on about "ohh, these phones have too much" and "ohh who needs a pda + phone" and "waah, I don't want a camera on my phone". Your solution is simple, buy a phone without it. If you go over to say at&t wireless, they have like a dozen GSM phones alone. All the way from relatively simple phones with bw displays up to the 3650 (and soon the P800).
Fine, great, you don't want that stuff. Just don't buy it then, don't whine about it. There are those that do want those features.
I've tried a 3650. Buttons sucked as they aren't in the normal layout. However other phones to try. If you want big screen + Symbian + PDA then go for either Nokia 7650 or Sony Ericcson P800. If you want something small with a camera Nokia 7250 is quite cool. If you want something small with bluetooth. T68i. Just my opinion but they are all good phones.
Rus
Cheap UK and US VPS
... are, without a doubt, the Nokia 6100 and the Nokia 7250.
w .nokiausa.com/phones/6100
The Nokia 6100 is a simple, elegant phone - packed with features (colour screen, polyphonic ringtones, etc) but also currently the smallest and lightest phone on the market. Missing features - no camera, no radio, but that means this phone is just 13mm thick!!
The Nokia 7250 is the updated version of the 7210 (better screen and better software), also with an integrated camera (but no video).
http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/7250i
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Phones to avoid: the 7210 and the 6610. These are essentially "older" versions of the phones above.
It's a smartphone, you made a mistake going with the T68i. The T68i is a toy in comparison, can't install new apps, can't write your own.
The 3650 can run all kinds of apps, it's basically a modern colour PSION scaled to fit in a phone.
Who cares if it's a little chunkier than a dumb basic phone, it has more functionality. You might as well say a laptop is too big compared to a PowerPC, this is the difference between a 3650 and a toy like the T68i, only the 3650 is only a little bigger.
Is a tiny phone--small enough to fit on my keychain would be nice. I don't want video, I don't want a camera, I don't want a PDA, I just want a phone that does what a phone is supposed to do--call people.
Eagles may soar, but weasles don't get sucked into jet engines...
Don't miss his complaints about the interface! The button arrangement on this phone is apparently a PITA.
I'm looking for a HEPA media filter for my TV. I'm alergic to reality shows.
This phone on the other hand, with its circular dial pad, can't come close to meeting this criteria. Nokia seems to have been trying to make it more and more difficult to dial their phones using the keypad, and this particular model seems to be quite the shining example of their hard efforts.
That was my primary concern when I was getting ready to buy the phone. Fortunately, a co-worker already had it and I had the chance to play with it and see how the dial pad felt.
First, for me it wasn't/isn't that bad and I can easily dial after some use. The phone also has voice activated dialing for up to 25 numbers, as well as, one-touch dialing (I also heard that it has the capability for up to 8 voice commands.
The combination of the above and the loudspeaker makes it easy enought for me to use it in the car.
...that I can call people on and they can call me. Do you think I can find one?
Jeebus Cripes, what's next, built in blowjobs?
Thats a deal breaker right there!
- Tempestdata
Is people who don't realize that not everyone has the same preferences as them. No matter how silly it may seem to you, some people like to send text messages and play video games from their phones.
This is like shouting "tastes great" at someone who thinks the beer is "less filling."
Or for geeks, shouting "vi" at an emacs user.
By your logic, we need a new name for "computers" because all anybody uses them for is Word Processing and Solitaire. I propose we call them "Soliputer WP."
this phone has been available with att wireless for about three weeks now. not exactly 'just released'.
if it wasn't for that horse, i wouldn't have spent that year in college.....
Yeah, rub it in.... meanie. At least we don't pay $85 for a melon ;-}
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When are major phone makers going to come out with sweet phones for CDMA? Sure the world uses GSM, but the US for the most part uses CDMA. The GSM service in the US sucks
Perhaps I missed it, but which mobile networks in the US offer/support this phone? (I'm on Voicestr^H^H^H^H^HT-Mobile, so I'm hoping that may be one of them)
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> I'd like IMAP, HTTP, and IM, as well as PDA functionality that can sync via bluetooth to a Mac. I was looking at the Sony Ericsons, but this may work as well.
/.ers, countrymen. Do we really need four different kinds of icing on our devilsfood? A little first-world modesty would become us.
U-S-A! U-S-A!
No blood for IMAP, please.
Friends,
That being said: will this thing sync with my Aibo's GP32?
I love my Sidekick.
You can download an updated version of the Videorecorder app from the Nokia site as well, instead of video only, you get video & audio.
I especially like the PC-Suite, you can drag 'n drop an mp3 to your mobile (if it's linked through cable, IR or BT) and it automatically is converted to aThe best weapon of a dictatorship is secrecy, but the best weapon of a democracy should be the weapon of openness.
One trait I always look for when purchasing phones...can I dial it while driving, and not have to look at the phone?
I could care a rats ass about trying to dial my phone while driving (unsafe no matter what the phone).....what I look for is whether I can answer it while driving.
I'm out of my mind right now, but feel free to leave a message.....
They give them away for a penny at Radio Shack! Video and imaging on cell phone? Definitely belongs in the more-money-than-brains department.
Now you can get annoying phone calls in inappropriate places with video accompaniment! Full color goatse.cx!
OK, as someone that has had one of these babies for about three months now, I must caution you. The camera is handy, the video is cool (but ultimately kinda useless), and it is kind of a PDA. HOWEVER: 1. The Bluetooth is a little strange. I can't seem to get anything to bind to the device other than a headset. Nokia's other devices up until now have only supported the Headset profile in Bluetooth, so it is possible this device only has that profile and no others (connect to computer, adhoc network, etc.). 2. MMS is still an evolving standard, and the way this device does MMS is in some cases out of spec. 3. I HATE the keyboard. Say goodbye to keying things into it without looking at the keypad, at least for some time until you get really used to it. Good luck entering lots of PDA stuff, like contact information, on this keyboard. 4. The plastics are chincey. 5. The device has crashed on me about once a week. The US carriers really vet their mobile phones hard, so possibly the 3650 sold in the US will have a better software load on it than the Hong Kong 3650 I have. BTW: I agree strongly with the posters below regarding the Sidekick (made by Danger). If you are looking for a good device, go with that one. I haven't seen the color one yet (not yet out, but sometimes I get these things early), but note that the attachable camera on the B&W version takes very low res pics.
The keypad looks like your dialing on a birth control pill dispenser. I should have gotten one of these for my girlfriend, oh the trouble it would have saved.
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I presonally prefer the Siemens series of phones,
just got my hands on the Siemens S55, it has all the features MMS, camera etc etc etc, plus java support, holds the signal very well (AT&T), and is nicely designed.
Does Nokia pay the OSDN to advertise for them?
You know what I want in a phone?
- The ability to make calls
- The ability to receive calls
That's it. My 2-year-old Sprint PCS phone recently got a crack in the LCD, so I've been looking to buy a new unit to replace it.
So far, I haven't found any models that cost less than $100, because they're all crammed full of features that I don't need, like color LCDs and voice recognition and built-in cameras and programmable polyphonic MIDI ringtone generators and speakerphone and integrated PDA features...
Why isn't anyone serving the low-end market?
My initial impression was that photo taking/sendinga sour ce=
was metered with a relatively high price, from
T-Mobile service and this Nokia 3650 phone.
This contrasts with SprintVision where Internet
access is flat rate. Is there a nice camera phone
that works with SprintVision, yet? Really, a
higher resolution camera would be desired, like
perhaps 2-megapixel resolution as in the Sony NZ90
described at
http://www.expansys.us/product.asp?code=NZ90&
Maybe an NZ90 with a PCMCIA phone card and
bluetooth phone telephone headset would work.
Unless Nokia finally got off their asses and wrote a descent Bluetooth stack, stay away from Nokia phones. Nokia has had a notoriously incomplete and horrific Bluetooth implementation from the get go.
SonyEricsson phones have the best Bluetooth implementation yet, and are the only ones supported by iSync works out of the box with only SonyEricsson and Ericsson phones.
"However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation."
The best thing about T-Mobile's data support: it's not a stupid CDMA "cell modem". It's an "always-on" packet protocol, GPRS. Instead of paying for connect time, your pay for the amount of bandwidth you use. If I weren't broke, I'd trash my obsolete, poorly-designed SCH-3500 and get one of these.
Or maybe not. I've been wondering why there hasn't been more buzz about the widespread availability of GPRS. Are there interface issues using it to run a web browser? Or are people just unenthused by the 56K bandwidth? Hey, it's fast enough to access slashdot! What more do you need?!
When cells first came out, a lot of people in the U.S. already had "mobile" telephones. These were basicaly point-to-point radios that tied into the phone network. Expensive, because they tied up a lot of radio spectrum. Obviously, you need a word other than "mobile" to describe the new service.
when you can get one of these?
In particular, note the pricetag.
-Afreet
At first I was mildly intrigued by the look of the 3650, and since T-Mobile (my carrier in AZ) actually offers the phone directly, I did some looking around... bottom line, pass on it (IMHO).
Others have pointed out the flaky Nokia bluetooth stuff, and the lack of syncml might actually be a bigger minus that I would have thought initially (I have an Ericsson R520 with all sorts of features, syncml among them, and I am just now starting to exercise the phone's feature set).
The keypad has to go.
I usually stop by here to get some phone scoopage (there are certainly many, many other sites as well). They have a review of the 3650 at the bottom-- or use the review search feature-- with the final thoughts (on page 3 of the review) rather humorous, but probably too true to be ignored.
Also on that site I found a review of the Siemens S55 which made me want to read more about the current and upcoming Siemens offerings. On the same site yet again is an article covering just that topic, about the upcoming SX1 and others from Siemens. The SX1 looks like it takes alternative keypad design in a slightly more functional direction.
Having tried out the Jabra FreeSpeak with my R520 (successfully and satisfactorily), and with a need to use some WAP and other wireless networking features lately, I am utterly convinced that getting a phone that does what you want it to do-- well-- is essential. Look past the buzz, get what will meet your needs, and pay attention to those details about keypad quality, low-light screen readability, and other such mundane details.
But that SX1 still looks cool...
IM
The Nokias are based on Psions OS, the people who maded Doom also make a ICQ client.
HTTP
Opera make a Symbain version of well, Opera.
J2ME HTML - http://www.reqwireless.com/
IMAP
J2ME
Mail++ ( plus many others )
Wow, I should not post when knackered.
All things
none done well
ass-a-9 keys
in the garbage
within the year
I've been working on a project with the 3650 over the past 2 1/2 months and, what can I say, it's a piece of shit. If other Nokias are going to be like this, then they will fall off their pedestal - Nokia is popular as hell, but they're not a monopoly. Their total disregard for quality has pushed a lot of users, including me, to Motorola, Samsung, SonyEricsson and Siemens. The 6210 was a fiasco, bluetooth in the 6310 was buggy as hell (fixed a bit into the 6310i).
Anyway, what sucks in the 3650?
* The keypad. This is definately the *worst* element, it flies in the face of convention and not in a cool and edgy way. I've been using this phone non-stop for the last 11 weeks and I haven't gotten used to it.
* Usability. Nokia took over by offering good usability. Phones used to have a different button for everything, Nokia took that, stripped it down (in the 3110, 51x0, etc) to a single nav key. It's been worse lately - the 6310 has like 13 or 14 main menu options so you can't even use shortcuts (like menu, 2, 2, 1 to write an SMS) to control all the functions.
While it's been slowly getting worse, the 3650 is just a leap ahead. The menus are organized so poorly that it took me 10 minutes to find the clock, took me a cab ride home (25km) to figure out how to turn the keypad tones off. It's just... complicated. Plus, the software is inconsistent - you can link some elements, you can't link others - even tough they seem identical to you.
Anyway, the phone is a total pain in the ass, I hope we start doing something for a newer model but - knowing my luck - it'll be this model all the way until autumn.
Ugh.
ha expansis where everything costs twice as much as it should!
The first time I saw this phone, i noticed the horrible button layout. What would possess a company to release a product that has a different button layout thant 99% of all phones. Also, this layout is not demonstrably faster or more convenient.
It's too bad, because I would seriously consider this phone, were not it for the poor layout. I. got a T68is instead.
But it's not available in Boston area :(
This is not the greatest sig in the world, this is just a tribute.
It's nice to see that the designers were brave enough to stray from the standard phone keypad layout but for what purpose? Style? If you're going to redesign something that everyone is familar with, make some improvements! How often do you actually enter numbers into your phone? What we need is an interface that dramatically improves on text entry.
Sounds good. I'll get one as soon as it
plays mp3s
has mw radio
plays flash 6 & java 2
I had a brief play with the Nokia 3650 this week; I was particularly interested to see how it compared with my shiny new P800. I had been a bit nervous about getting the P800 because (a) it was pretty expensive (b) my previous Ericssony (the T68i) had been a big disappointment and (c) I'd always been a Nokia fan, ever since the 6110.
I needn't have worried. Beside the P800, the 3650 is clunky, circumscribed, and weird. The screen is poky and not as clear as the Sony's, and the keyboard's striking aesthetics aren't backed up by anything so mundane as actually being easy to use. The camera on the 3650 is better than the P800s in low light, but this is more than made up for by the P800's superb user interface and PDA functions. The jog dial on the P800 is the closest return to the old Nokia "do what I want" button I've seen in years, and the clever choices of "open" and "closed" UI styles make the P800 the best phone/PDA compromise I've ever encountered - in fact, the only one yet which is both a usable phone and a great PDA.
I used to be a staunch Nokia partisan, but it seems that their only innovations these days are in weird keypad layouts. Check out the P800 instead of the 3650. Sell your dog if you have to - you won't regret this phone.
I've been using Nokias since 99, and I pretty much have a permanent headache. Not to say that the two facts are inter-related, mind you(although Nokias are generally on the list for most radiation output). But I think I'll switch over to the Sony Ericssons when my contract is over with suck-fest Cingular...
"Right now, somewhere in this world, Scott Baio is plowing a woman he doesn't love," - Peter Griffin, *Family Guy*
You don't need a midlet for IMAP -- you can set up IMAP and POP3/SMTP mailboxes natively in the messaging application.
There are also C++ based clients for IRC available at Handango, as well as another C++ based HTML browser (Emily or something). I am not even sure if Opera has released for the 3650.
Unfortunately, very few details about the features of the phone.
Actually, I have a 7210 and i rather like it... that picture on the website looks kinda funky but it is a pretty sleek phone. Nice color screen, GSM & GPRS... lotsa frills, but it works pretty well. The only thing i don't like is that the quality of the sound coming out of the speaker during regular calls isn't that great... that's a pretty freaking ironic problem for a phone to have, but oh well. The handsfree is great and the speakerphone is pretty good. Nice toy, all in all.
Well I've had a 3650 in Europe for ages now and it seems noone here is comparing it with its true rival the 7650.
7650
3.6Mb Ram = bad
joystick = good
keypad = okay but the on/off button sucks
3640
3.6Mb + 16Mb MMC = good
circular direction pad thing = bad
keypad = takes 20mins to type a 3 char SMS --> bad
Well thats my 2 'cents'
Cheers
I've used Motorola StarTac phones for years, and I don't think I would want to give up folding the phone closed to hang up. Also, when the phone is folded, the buttons and screen are protected. Maybe I'm missing something, but what happens to a phone like the Nokia 3650 when you stuff it in your pocket and it's banging around with your keys and stuff?
Make a difference: move to a swing state.
I bought one of these off of eBay a couple of months ago, and sold it shortly after I bought it despite having invested in a 128MB MMC card. A few key comments:
1. While I thought the keypad would be interesting and innovative, it's actually a disaster in consumer product design. The standard 3x4 keypad design is so commonly employed that people now input numbers/PINs/etc. as much for the pattern of the digits as the number the combined digits form. I found while using the device that even numbers I have known and dialed for years did not easily come to memory as the phone lacks the visual queues the familiar layout provides.
2. The device supports a limited set of Bluetooth profiles, so that Jabra headset you bought or the first few generations of SonyEricsson headsets (through the HBH-30) won't work with it.
3. IMAP over SSL/TLS? Forget it. Doesn't work.
4. The user interface feels childish and inelegant. This is just my opinion, but when you compare it to either UIQ on the SonyEricsson P800 or PocketPC 2002 it appears more to be the product of an early-stage, open source project than commercial UI design.
5. The video camera only captures ~12 seconds of video. This is NOT a storage limitation, as this restriction exists no matter how much storage you have available.
6. Also personal opinion, the construction of the device feels cheap and "plasticy".
Still, the device category has come a hell of a long way since the IBM/BellSouth Simon...
I can't believe all the fuss over this relatively uninteresting technologogy. Seriously, polyphonic ringtones? Ultra low-res camera? Why?
But my biggest issue with this product is this; is it really the right time for us to support a french phone maker (and even a french standard)?
I say, buy Motorola, a good wholesome US company.
How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
You can get some really cool games for J2ME enabled phones such as Dragon Island. A great palce to read about new games is Midlet Review and you can try midlets out from Midlet.org
I'm waiting for the Motorola V600. It's due out later this year.
Big screen (65K colors), Bluetooth, J2ME, polyphonic rings, GPRS, and best of all, A NORMAL, USABLE KEYBOARD LAYOUT!
You're a regular troll buster
How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
I just bought mine Tuesday night. So far I'm pretty happy with it. For those of you who don't like the keypad, it's not so bad. By the time I had punched in all of my contacts I was as used to it as my old nokia 6160. The camera is pretty cool, but so far my favorite feature is the ring tones - any midi songs you can find will work, and with bluetooth it's pretty easy to set them up (well, setting up bluetooth on your linux box is a pain). The phone is about the same size as my 6160, so that doesn't really bother me - but I could see it being an issue if you're used to something smaller. The apps it comes with are pretty lame (mostly demos), and I haven't tried downloading any. It is kind of difficult to play games on the rocker switch, but you can't expect too much from a cell phone I guess. Overall I'm pretty happy with it, and it's way cooler than my old basic phone.
Dudes, I have been a long time slashdot user. :) So.... umm.. what I'm trying to say, is that I'm drunk and beware of the bush. Life can be beautiful.... and it ain't in the USA. It's here, in europe. Chicks are nice and beautiful.... and this is a rule. or something. The USA is bloated and the people living there. It ain't here..... in europe..... peace & bear. have fun.... and btw... nuclear strike ain't the asnwer to your prairs. peace!
I hate to bring this to you, but you, the american guys, are so back in cell phones. And I know, that I am drunk and that I sound like a normal troll around here, but it's time for you to move to GSM or G3. 1900 MHz is just not going to make it. BTW, the only reason you have a different frequency for the cellphones, is that your military is already using 1800 MHz. And BTW, attacking Iraq was a mistake, although not all of you might agree with that. GSM has been very stable in here, europe. And..... we don't have DMCA in here
suff
Argh... you in the US sure are late regarding mobile phones.
No, I was the guy on the motorcycle you cut off because you didn't signal cause your hand was on your dick^W Cell Phone.
Hang up or get off the road. You're steering a 1ton plus metal vehicle, not sitting in your lazy boy
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I want the jammer button on my bike:
Hello? Hello? damn, I can't hear you. I'll call you later. Maybe I'll pay attention to driving my 12mpg, 3 ton, own-zipcode SUV that will never see a dirt road.
soon it will be a big deal if a cellphone has the CALL function built in :p
No, I was the guy on the motorcycle you cut off because you didn't signal cause your hand was on your dick^W Cell Phone.
No, you nearly hit me because you were splitting lanes in a bend at 70 when traffic was stopped.
What has *science* done?!? -- Dr. Weird (ATHF)
This is very very old news. It was released on T-Mobile's network in the US on 3/28......
Better link here
An A double T dude told me that the 7210 has been discontinued due to wierd software/slowdown problems. I guess when you get a few ring-tones and other stuff into it, the interface gets sluggish... The 7250 is supposed to fix this (I think), _and_ add a camera. :)
python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
Yeah, right, and you still believe in Santa Clause, too? More likely, this ad was paid for by Nokia, deliberately made a bit "controversial", and leaked onto the net. Welcome to the new world of marketing.
Is there anyone out there that this shit is getting way out of hand? I mean, aren't cell phones neat enough in that you can call people frm pretty much anywhere? Who needs video, internet access, or instant messenging? Really? Do you really? I don't even think it's that cool, and I'm definitely one for cutting edge technology. But this is to the point of ludicrosity. Does anyone agree with me? Or am I just weird?
P.S.
No, I'm not some old fogey who's not "hip" to the current technology trends, I'm 17. Hmmm I also listen to vinyl a lot. Maybe I'm an old fogey trapped inside a teenager's body.
I belong to the ______ generation.
damn it, I can't afford a P800 unless T-Mobile or AT&T subsidize the cost.
WTF? Why would I want to use this weird-ass non-standard key layout? Dude, that's pretty f*****d up right there.
CELL PHONES COOK YOU FOR DINNER (with microwave radiation)... oh wait, they do that here in the states too... ~:-\
What drives me crazy is "enqueue". Since "queue" isn't commonly used in the U.S., nobody knows that it's both a noun and a verb. Yeah yeah, I'm the one who rants against prescriptive grammar rules. Still grates on my nerves though.
I have one....
US is not such a big GSM market, which is why they get GSM phones after their official launch in europe and asia-pacific....
India is predominantly GSM, and now a few 3G CDMA2000x1 operators...so the market for GSM mobile phones is in the range of over 20Mill handsets a year, consistently, for the past two years. And it's only going to grow...
I find it interesting that nobody mentions or is aware of the great threat Microsoft poses to Nokia and the rest of the market.
.NET will (watch out for this one). Compete on phone applications where M$ has no back-end, no market dominance, establish your own.
Through their normal underhanded business methods (Sendo would know what I'm talking about), they have developed a version of their OS that runs on mobile phones, allow you to access exchange, schedule, browse, play movies, IM, etc. Asian phone suppliers manufacture these phones cheaply and in large numbers.
M$ smartly integrates the phone with their current application and user base. Idiots like operator CEO's would make stupid decisions like exclusively using these phones. After all, there is nothing wrong with M$ monopoly on desktop, so why not the phone too...
Luckily they will learn the painful truth as the loss of freedom of choice and, in their case, control will hit them hard one of these days.
I develop both phone and backend applications at one of the worlds largest operators. We have spoken to Nokia on numerous occasions. I have seen M$ move into the market with inferiour products under Nokia's noses. We have told Nokia this, asked them to give us the same flexibility as M$ always gives you before they strangle you, but no, either they are too stubborn, set in their ways or convinced of their own immortality.
So Nokia, listen carefully in order to survive you need to at least do the following:
1) Provide the same integration with M$ backends as M$ does.
2) Provide the same ability for any consumer to easily update the phone firmware/OS.
3) Do not try and build back end platforms that M$ already has. You will fail until Linux/BSD kills M$ on the server.
4) Focus on the application space. Office will not run on the phone soon, but
5) Build back-ends for applications M$ cannot even envision at the moment. After all you still know the most about your own environment.
6) Be willing to bend over to operator requests, they are your market. They are the ones M$ are buying. First the operator and then the consumer.
7) etc...
You are still in controll of the market, you have lots and lots of money. Start fighting the war while you still can...
NOKIA WAKE UP!
I must apologize for posting as Anonymous. Lapse in keeping my account updated has caused my now forgotten account password to be mailed to a non-existent email address...
Alwyn Schoeman
jabber id: alwyn@jabber.or.id
So, thanks for mentioning it.
I bought one (and yes, i paid it fully. My old TDMA phone has just died, so i've thought i'd need a brand new phone. And i never lost a phone, except for the humidity in Amazon - who oxidates everything. Interesting, since Nokia's Brazilian Factory is in the Manaus Free Trade Zone - In Amazon too. They build in Amazon, but they're not meant for it. Figure it).
At first, it looks like a pricey, geek-minded phone for a few people who'd like to show financial power. So do i.
I bought the phone and then i spent more time than usual away from home, in other cities. Then, the beauty of 7650 started to show. Since it takes photos, you'd take it more personal. Reads my e-mail.
My coworkers have T68i. My 7650 can take photos and upload to them. You can e-mails photos, and there's now an open protocol for photo publishing from nokia (the german guys @ http://www.fotodock.com built an astounding service there).
Then i realized: Since from the very beginning, 7650 is aimed at persons who are individualists. People who spent many time roaming around, far from home, and who'd like to have a companion for their lifestyles.
Oh, it comes with C++ tools for Symbian OS. Borland has just starting to support it with C++ Builder. MobileSet for JBuilder already does that, by J2ME.
The nokia approach is to make a phone become a part of a person. They started that by building stylish phones not meant for all, but for a small segment. They have phones for kids, phones for workers, executives, and so forth. That's what made nokia become a superpower: By attaching cellphones to lifestyles. People no longer buy phones based on their tech specs, but in their looks and the impression it projects, mostly from marketing.
BTW: Yes, once i opened the camera in a whorehouse. I was invited to go home. That's a price you pay for being able to see - and record - too much for a moment.
I'm a cell phone luddite too. I hate the things. I owned one briefly back in 99, then got rid of it because I didn't want to carry it around, and I really didn't like the way people started to expect you to pick up the telephone all the time, just because you have a cell phone.
That said, I had to get another cell phone recently, and I decided on the Motorola V60c. I love the thing. It's cheap (I got it for $80), it's small, it's easy to dial (unlike those micro-tiny Nokia toys), easy to hear, and because it's a flip phone, it's actually comfortable to use. While the V60c doesn't have games or a color screen or polyphonic hoo-hahs, it does have an incredibly useful little calendar program (with alarm clock), and I find that it more than meets my PDA needs. Plus, with the sleek stainless case, it's damn stylish (who needs a color screen when you can look like you're James-freaking-Bond on the steel cellphone?)
My only complaints? The antenna is a bit flimsy (Radio shack replacements are $10 each), it would be nice to have downloadable ringtones, and I wish it had a calulator program. Otherwise, I highly recommend it (and I think the new version of the V60 line has a calculator, games and ringtones, for the same price). Go get yourself one of these.
Let's try not to let fact interfere with our speculation here, OK?
Hi there,
I've been a bit surprised by the amount of negative statements about this phone. I have it for about 2 weeks now, and here are my comments on it.
- I really like that it has Symbian on it, and that you can finally write some decent applications for it. With C++ you have access to just about anything, way way better than J2ME which mostly seems to be able to turn pixels on/off and beep (though in 3650 now it is able to send SMS/MMS and use the camera). I have a NFS app for it, so I can mount the drives from linux, the SDK sort of works on linux as well, so for me this really kicks ass!
-It for sure is big, but still not too big. When I don't want to carry something as big with me, I just switch my SIM card to something smaller.
- the keypad is strange, but I got used to it pretty quickly. i still type faster on a normal phone keyboard but not too much
- it for sure is neat to take photos wherever you are and just zip them to your email right away. Perfect for mobile blogging. Though the photos are not too great, but work for the purpose.
-connecting with PC via IRDA works well, and many friends have reported BlueTooth working quite well as well - maybe bluetooth problems are only in US sets (mine is European?). when connected to pc, symbian apps can use PC's internet connection for their net connection - nice for testing
- an excellent email client
- quite a few good web browsers out there for symbian
- gprs is kinda slow compared to let's say siemens (only class 6, compared to class 10), but still quite usable
so, if you want something you can really play with (ie, hack), this is quite neat.
oh, and I forgot - you can watch video streams from the net. Here in Slovenia you can get it via one of our operators, Simobil, and you can watch our national television and some cartoons. Surprisingly it works quite well, though you better have a good data option on your subscription (you can get unlimited GPRS here for about $32)
I'd definitely ask, if there will be a MIDP 2 firmware upgrade available any time soon. Gaming without real sprites is a PITA...
I owned 7650 for quite some time now. It is great, if a bit bulky, phone. My only gripe is, that it does not support Bluetooth audio (no wireless headset support). 3650 supports this, supports movie capture and has somewhat enhanced J2ME support. Also 7650 has tons of software available:
As a bit of shameless self promotion, here is a game our company developed.
You also get obligatory IR control software and some other stuff here
You can get really nice & open source bluetooth remote controler here. There is other cool stuff like miniGPS, which gives you option to customize some options, depending on which base station you are currently connected.
Rant: Also, for anybody developing for nokia using J2ME - this is probably the most buggy implementation I have seen. For example, if you called Sound.setGain(byte) it crashed, no matter what the input was (this is a confirmed bug), and this is not isolated case. I really can't understand how somebody can get through QA when one of the public functions in interface that has 10 or so items doesn't work at all. *sigh*
The following report on lower than expected adoption of the Internet in the US is interesting - shocking even.
At least 90%+ of the wacky British are functionally literate.
"Literacy could also be a factor, the report suggested, as nearly one-quarter of the U.S. population cannot read well enough to handle everyday tasks."
I've just got the 3650 this week; it does take a bit of getting used to but it does have some nice features such as personal configuration of the menu layout. So you can have all your most frequently used options near the top and the less-used ones out of the way at the bottom.
The one problem I have with it though is that the video recorder doesn't record sound, even though the sample clips it comes with have a full soundtrack - annoying seeing as they fail to mention this in the advert.
Aside from that, the keypad takes a bit of getting used to but its a nice phone, and not as chunky in my pocket as I expected it to be.
This looks like a pretty blatant Nokia advertisement to me.
Is that what Slashdot has come to now?
Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
...but Nokia's interpretation of BT is spotty. Not all BT headsets are supported since it doesn't support the headset profile, opting to support only Nokia's headset. Otherwise, I think it works fine.
Is it too big? Somewhat, if you compare it to the T68i. But it's not as heavy as it looks (it's way lighter than my old 7110). But it has a big enough screen for ebooks (mobipocket reader is available), plus there's a gnuboy port for it. An mp3 player isn't included, but 3rd party programs are available.
Oh plus, it has an MMC (but not SD) slot, so the 3rd party apps are really useful. It's looking like a viable replacement for my PDA.
I just have to get used to the funky key layout.
I'd just like something that sends and receives phone calls. Is that even possible anymore?
I have used both the 7650 and 3650, and absolutely love mye 3650(And after using the keypad for about a weak, you can dial blindfolded with no problems.). Therefore, I have this to say about you recomending the 7650 as an better PDA-alternative.
Yes, it would be really smart to buy an 7650 instead of the 3650, especially since with a 7650, you'll be stuck with only 4mb memory, and NO way to expand it. And belive me, the 4 megs take no time to fill up. Just install DOOM, or GoBoy(Gameboy emulator) with two GBC roms, and internal memory is full. The 3650 does at least have an MMC-slot. Oh, and the camera of the 3650 is better than both the 7650 and the 7250.
The P800 on the other hand is in every way an supperior phone/PDA-solution(exept for the camera, witch is about the same as 7650/3650) to any Series 60-phone, because of the bigger(thouch) screen, and the use of a stylus, as well as more internal memory, and newer version of the Symbian OS. And you can get Opera for free for it. But offcourse, it's in a totally differen price group, and quite expensive.
You know you are old when you look at it and say "dude, that is the way the numbers used to be laid out - on rotary phones". Now *THAT* would be cool, to have a rotary dial mobile phone. :-)
My parents still have some rotary phones. One time, and this was back around '85, my brother brought home a date who was a "city girl". She went to use the phone, and she didn't know how to use a rotary phone. She was just pushing the numbers, not actually "dialing" them. It was so funny. Do people even wonder today how we got the term "dialing" a number?
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
I got the 7650 the day it was released to my local market. Couldn't resist. Did the same with the 3650. The difference between the two? Other than the style... Not a lot. Audio Bluetooth on the 3650 allows for a bluetooth headset, and the MMC capabilities mean a lot more apps can be installed... Also a huge bonus.
;-) Maybe if Verisign and T-Mobile sort their problems out, I'll be able to send MMS msg's to friends there.... Or maybe I'll just stick to sending them to my friends in every other country ;-) (well, almost)
I have to admit, the American cellular market makes me laugh. CDMA? What an expensive joke. GPRS is so much cheaper because you're only paying for what you use, not how long you spend connected (which includes idle time).
I personally will never go near a CDMA network as long as GSM/GPRS/UMTS are available. For a supposedly 3G service, its an extremely backward network.
BTW, OS X 10.2.5 supports the 7650 and the 3650 via bluetooth without a problem. Including transfering files between the two, syncing the calendars, addressbooks and so on... I have no problems with it on my Powerbook or my Powermac.
Oh well... What can I say? USA, congrats on gradually catching up to the rest of us.
blah blah blah
It's a phone.
You rule the tool, not the other way around.
You don't answer it when it rings and you
turn the damn ringer off so you don't hear it.
You call them back if they leave a message that
has anything worth hearing.
You rule the tool.
Get over it.
It's a phone.
I usually don't go for gimmicks, which this is, but I like the looks of it. You are right though, weak on specs and details.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
... then I guess I won't be getting N-GAGE then :(
I'm picking up my car today, having just had the HK TrafficPro and Ericsson HCB-30 bluetooth handsfree installed. This Nokia doesn't sync with SyncML, have a headset profile for my motorola headset, and would probably have problems with my new car handsfree. What a pile of shite. And isn't that keypad just the dumbest thing you've ever seen (I mean, besides the Pontiac Aztek)? I could even RESPECT a retro moving 'rotary' dial knob ala an iPod with return, but this thing's just retarded.
Bad Nokia! No cookie for you!!
what's with the stupid numeric layout?
Round kepad is absolute crap, can't be used with one hand, and has this annoying dark blue backlit that makes it illegible both in daylight and night.
Some people complained about 6310/6310i Bluetooth compatibility. 3650 takes one step further as it is compatible with other nokias 3650 and nokia BT headset only! No #$%^# way to sync it with PC with BT dongle/IPAQ 3970. MMS mesaging to Siemens s55 dosen't work either. You can't use this HBH-30 Ericsson headset that works with everything on the earth (even 6310i) as this is not orginal Nokia accesory :)) Anyone there in finland heard of open standards????
Menu is weird, you can make links/shortcuts to only few items and not to the other, it doesn't let you wiew the files and you have to get third party software to actualy see the file system. Essential app as ex. you can recieve a *.mid file via infrared and you will not be able to use it as a music file unless you move it to the right folder, a simle task you can't do without file manager. Idiots.
Messaging lacks one crucial function to delete all SMS mesages, so when my network went down and I got 50 mesages form my monitoring software. I had to manualy perform open/options/scroll_down/delete/yes_i'm_sure on every single one of them.
phone is big, and bulky, and has plenty of empty air space under it back cover. What for?
you have to take out battery to acces MMC cards slot !?!?!?!
To sum it up this one of the worst designed phones I have ever had in my hands
Get the P800 instead - bluetooth, tri-band so it will work in the states (u guys just have to be different), massive screen for a phone, bluetooth, built in camera & speakerphone & you can d/l more apps for it (java support included). It takes the new memory stick duo mini memory stick & runs the same o/s as Nokia's 9210 communicator (Symbian v7). It's got gprs for fast net access, polyphonic ringtones, touch screen, handwriting recognition, web & wap browser, mms support, mp3 & video player & even comes with 3 styli. About the only thing I haven't been able to do is work out how to switch it from portrait to landscape mode & it doesn't do faxes (but who does anymore). This baby is the bomb.
check out http://www.sonyericsson.com/ (no i am not an employee)
when it plays ogg :)
Take a look at the Sierra Wireless AC750 from T-Mobile, it's a GSM/GPRS + Voice pcmcia card, and the manufacturer even has directions on how to get it working in Linux!
You're trying to bust a troll, but your techniques seem ineffective. Let me point out a few things you can work on:
I thought you worked at Sega
Notice that the Sega post is from February 1994, around the time the Sega Saturn console first 2came out stateside. It's April 2003 now. Nine years is more than long enough to switch companies in one profession, even in the Far East
How's your Smell-o-vision [slashdot.org] project going?
The manual for the USA version of Earthbound (the sequel to Mother, which Nintendo never published in the USA) had scratch-and-sniff panels.
Have you finished the HIGHLY ADVANCED SPEECH RECOGNITION DEVICE
Ever heard of Hey You, Pikachu!?
Possibly the most damning evidence is this post, which calls Nintendo's handheld the "Gameboy Advance". Nintendo house style spells "Game Boy" as two words.
Will I retire or break 10K?
I had the chance to try out this phone this weekend, using T-Mobile service. It got much better reception in my part of town than my Sprint phone does. I was impressed with its camera features (found myself wanting a zoom feature) and played with the video recording feature a bit too. Found that I adapted to the circular key pad without much trouble. It had more than I expected from a phone, and was actually lighter and smaller than I expected. The camera was much less cumbersome than most of the other camera phone I have seen. This is the phone I will be upgrading to. I also saw that Nokia is giving away 10 of the 3650 camera phones in a sweepstakes running through April 29th. The contest URL is: http://www.nokiausa.com/registration?sweepstakes=1