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I read your post and I must say that with all of your pretense of objectivity ("I'm not against Linux, heck I have no loyalties when it comes to software.") it is unquestionably partisan. It seems to me that you are one of the Windows users that can't stand it when software doesn't work like windows. I will address some of the more obvious problems with your post:

First, video playing. If you were to install mplayer and the "essential" codec package, the overwhelming majority of your Linux video problems would go away. In order to play anywhere near the same number of differing video types under Windows requires getting media player classic and the K-Lite codec pack, real alternative and quicktime alternative.

Next, file structure. Just what, exactly is so confusing about linux file systems? Is it easier to navigate to C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents than /home/username? (I don't have a windows machine handy, so I might be missing a level.) What exactly is so confusing? I really want to know what's stretching your brain.

You also say "Until there is a tight, pixel-perfect GUI that has hardware acceleration on Linux, it's going to be playing catch-up to Macs and Windows. People who want eye-candy are going to be going elsewhere." I don't know what desktops that you've been playing with, but the only response that this comment deserves is http://www.kde-look.org/.

As for the bloat issue, I've been working with a stripped down linux distro to run instrumentation that fits on a 20MB flash disk. And, I have installed full Linux distributions that take up less space than Windows XP. You just have to make a few sensible choices in the install routine. If you check the "everything" box, you're gonna get everything! And while we're on the subject of bloat, why can't I uninstall the Microsoft versions of applications that I already have replacements for? I don't want IE, I already have Firefox.

You also say "Breaking. In my experience, when linux breaks, it can take a lot of work getting it right again. With windows, you can just re-install the software that is affected, and you're sailing." Well, all I can say is that you don't seem to have much experience fixing either Linux or Windows. I can forgive your problem fixing Linux since it's obvious from your post that you don't have much experience with it. However, your assertions about fixing Windows show that you don't have experience with it either (despite your cheerleading.) On more than one occasion, Microsoft software has bolluxed up Windows so much that it couldn't be fixed. (I'm thinking of Outlook, Outlook express, and Internet Explorer specifically).

I guess the thing I find most disturbing about your post is your pretense of objectivity. It seems obvious that you have little experience with either of the operating systems that you compare and yet you spout Windows fanboy exaggerations throughout.

I make no such assertion of objectivity. I used windows of all flavors for many years. I got my start in the IT biz repairing, upgrading, and generally troubleshooting Windows. One day, I just got fed up with all of Windows problems and started dual-booting Linux on my home machine. After a while, I found myself never using the Windows partition and dumped it for good. I still have to do a great deal of Windows troubleshooting and repair and I'm so glad that I have a reliable system to use myself.

KDE is close with www.kde-look.org but I'd really like to see a DE pull it all together and create a dynamic user/developer environment.

Comments.
Ratings (good for both artist/developers *and* users)
Pictures! (eyecandish interface and background picutres! you want to attract artists and excite users!)
Oh, and no patronizing, but it sound like you got that part already!

Before you donate, you might want to check out a certain scandal on KDE-Look (hint: you might want to use the menu there to view comments older than July 8).

I, for one, will not support the Mozilla foundation after seeing this.

KDE is as sweet as osx once you tweak it a little. My XFce screenshots have been often acknowledged by hardcore mac users. You just need to spend some time on it. Like 3-4 hours. I personally dont prefer windowmaker, maybe you need to try something else.
Try visiting KDE-look and check out some of the screenshots there. The ones that are highest rated. Or the ones featured at GnomeDesktop One of the things linux has improved a lot, is eye candy. If you dont mind all the translucant, super karamba bloat, your desktop might even rival with the sweetest looking osx.

Features
* can install and remove themes
* can create themes based on user's settings
* theme format based on XML
* currently handles desktop settings (wallpaper, colors etc.), icon theme, cursor theme, sounds, WM decoration, Konqueror and Kicker background, screensaver

No, that's Karamba and SuperKaramba, not Konfabulator....

I don't care about the default look as long there is Plastik for Firefox available which also includes Crystal icons and Cancel<->OK button swap.

Actually, I believe KDE has something like this.. I just tried opening a konq window and switching, and it opened in another window. What I also like about KDE, is that if you use the KGestures thingy and make it open a new tab for a gesture, the command opens a tab on a window on the current virtual desktop (if any), otherwise, it just opens a new window. Funky stuff.

Plus, the Slicker project (which seems to have been abandoned) is an interesting concept. Screenshot. Although the damn thing compiled and ran, I got nothing to show up. Clues?

I'd just like to remind you all (I do this periodically) to take a look at www.kde-look.org and check it regularly! For whatever reason this is the *one* Linux based site (well, kde anyway) that has managed to form a healthy alliance between the graphics world and the Linux community.

This is the kind of cross pollination we *really* need. And before anyone starts to say anything about other attempts, review the format they are using. Look at the little things like the clean organization and the *feedback* options. This site sets a standard I have yet to see anyone live up to and it does it while encouraging the artists! My hats off. Lets encourage more positive interaction with our users and those of us with an artistic bend!

If you want to use the KDE icons in gtk+ applications, you should check out this page which builds upon the GTK-QT theme engine. It works well, I'm using it right now to chat on Gaim.

This is the "Baghira" theme (replacement for Mosfet's Liquid) for KDE 3.2 at work. Go to kde-look.org and search for Baghira. There's a Gentoo ebuild for it and SuSE and Mandrake RPMs. It's a pretty good theme and the one I'm currently using on both my machines that have monitors. IMHO, Plastik is a better window decoration style than Baghira's though.

Why is it we are still having these totally disconnected conversations?

Its like the users of most OSS projects communicate entirely with themselves while the actual project plugs along continuously without ever hearing what the users think. This if fucking weird!

So I'll point to one of my favorite websites (not perfect, but a million times better then nothing at all) and ask why haven't we found a better way to interact?

Here on Slashdot we appreciate the benefits of feedback and moderation. Of open discussion. What gives?

I recently emailed Mozilla's licensing department about using derivative works of their icons. The response I received included this: "the image files are not under the same open source license as the rest of Mozilla. The reason for this is that it helps us preserve the clarity of our trademark."

Wouldn't that mean that Debian's issue with it is moot?

Fine with me; I can GIMP up the icons on the web site and use them myself as fair use. You should consider doing the same.

I thought about that, but then I could save time and just grab someone else's work - Actually I prefer the Firefox original icon, but the ones on that link are still way better than the ones distributed by Debian, to this date. BTW, this link was posted on Debian's maillist as a sugestion for the icon to replace the official one, and though the License is DFSG-Free (except maybe for the "firefox_old" icon, which is clearly derivative work), Debian is still sticking with that blue-globe crap icon. Go figure...

Michael Robertson here - CEO of Lindows.

Let me provide some facts. In a flash tutorial hosted at Linspire.com there is a chapter which talks about Linux in which we used 3 background images from the Kde-look site by the author Mark Klown. Lindows downloaded these images from Kde-look (coincidentally - a website which Lindows financially sponsors - that doesn't affect the licensing issue). There is no creative common license indicator on the web pages that host these images.

From the email trail someone named "Jim" alerted Mark to the free flash tutorial on April 20th. Mark changed the license on his own website for the images in question to a Creative Commons license on April 25th. Then someone created a website accusing Linspire of violating the Creative Commons license and "stealing" the images. After which Slashdot prints a headline saying that Lindows is accused of violating the Creative Commons license.

Mark never contacted us saying that he had changed his license. He never contacted us saying he did not like the way the images were used. I wished he would have because this whole soap opera would have been avoided. I did send Mark email once I read the Slashdot story to get his input which is when he told me that he just recently changed the license on his website. He said he was going to put notification on his website about our situation.

It's disappointing to me because Slashdot runs this controversial headline then thousands of people read it and believe it. I think you should run the correction in the same place that you ran the original story. How about another story saying how easy it is to head-fake slashdot editors with a webpage and an email?

-- MR

I have seen a few images on kde-look that were not public domain. Like for example this one, this one combining the famous win xp background and I think a tux that appeared on busness weekly, and this one.

For other example look through the themes sections.

I have seen a few images on kde-look that were not public domain. Like for example this one, this one combining the famous win xp background and I think a tux that appeared on busness weekly, and this one.

For other example look through the themes sections.

I have seen a few images on kde-look that were not public domain. Like for example this one, this one combining the famous win xp background and I think a tux that appeared on busness weekly, and this one.

For other example look through the themes sections.

So what. I made Icons that are all over the place, and I dont care. If he didn't have a CC license on it before, they were probably used then. Besides, Lindows sponsers the kde-look.org. He ought to be happy that they give him and others a place to display their work.

Also who is this guy that made the webpage? Is he speaking for the author? Where is the Authors response?

BTW: Did anyone contact Linspiredows a call before flipping out about it?

http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2 045
^ notice the post date.. mid-2002

Lindows wasn't a sponsor at the time I'm quite sure, if my memory serves me right. Also the submission system on kde-look allows you specify a license, and at the time the wallpapers were posted, they didn't have that feature.

The themes that were pulled didn't just copy the "Aqua" UI, they used the trademarked apple logo. There are quite a few aqua-style themes out there.

The themes that were pulled didn't just copy the "Aqua" UI, they used the trademarked apple logo. There are quite a few aqua-style themes out there.

If you're going to do a next generation toolkit system, then do it right: start by creating a network protocol for it.

*cough*Y-Windows*cough*

They seem to be working on a widget set to go with their protocol. I agree that this is the way to go. Someone will hack $WIDGET_LIBRARY to use the protocol, and we can unify the look and feel. This is a lot more elegant than hacks like GTK-QT because they must all interface to the one widget set to rule them all.

Abstraction. Because the widgets are implemented on top of a protocol, widget libraries simply have to all talk the same protocol. This means that it doesn't matter what the widget library itself looks like, what language it's implemented in, what object paradigm it uses, or anything else: the look and feel will still be the same. This is markedly different from the current situation with GTK, QT, and all other Unix widget sets, each of which implements its own look and feel. A client/server architecture can, and should, abstract out the look and feel of the widget set.

You're right, it is a significantly different approach, but as I said above, this is not completely incompatible with current widgets.

To be fair, that's not even the default look for 3.2 anyway. This is (although I changed the window decoration to a Be style).

I've no idea why he has AA turned off (ok, some people don't like it in the 9-14pt range, but you've gotta be insane not to use at the higher pts), and kde supports any fonts that X does, i.e. TTF for example. Personally, I use the microsoft fonts (verdana etc) off my doze games rig, but the free bitstream vera ones are also very nice.

Combine that with the ugly colours, scheme and windeco, it looks like something from mid 90's.

If you want a good example of some kde styles, you've got plastik (included by default in 3.2), style and windeco

baghira, a mac clone

knifty, new, my current favourite

and of course, luna if you just luuurve the windows look.

I've no idea why he has AA turned off (ok, some people don't like it in the 9-14pt range, but you've gotta be insane not to use at the higher pts), and kde supports any fonts that X does, i.e. TTF for example. Personally, I use the microsoft fonts (verdana etc) off my doze games rig, but the free bitstream vera ones are also very nice.

Combine that with the ugly colours, scheme and windeco, it looks like something from mid 90's.

If you want a good example of some kde styles, you've got plastik (included by default in 3.2), style and windeco

baghira, a mac clone

knifty, new, my current favourite

and of course, luna if you just luuurve the windows look.

I've no idea why he has AA turned off (ok, some people don't like it in the 9-14pt range, but you've gotta be insane not to use at the higher pts), and kde supports any fonts that X does, i.e. TTF for example. Personally, I use the microsoft fonts (verdana etc) off my doze games rig, but the free bitstream vera ones are also very nice.

Combine that with the ugly colours, scheme and windeco, it looks like something from mid 90's.

If you want a good example of some kde styles, you've got plastik (included by default in 3.2), style and windeco

baghira, a mac clone

knifty, new, my current favourite

and of course, luna if you just luuurve the windows look.

I've no idea why he has AA turned off (ok, some people don't like it in the 9-14pt range, but you've gotta be insane not to use at the higher pts), and kde supports any fonts that X does, i.e. TTF for example. Personally, I use the microsoft fonts (verdana etc) off my doze games rig, but the free bitstream vera ones are also very nice.

Combine that with the ugly colours, scheme and windeco, it looks like something from mid 90's.

If you want a good example of some kde styles, you've got plastik (included by default in 3.2), style and windeco

baghira, a mac clone

knifty, new, my current favourite

and of course, luna if you just luuurve the windows look.

Sounds like the advertisers have to be running out of slants on this web advertising thing soon.

I really CAN'T belive that ignorant moderators are modding this shit up! It is complete flamebait, troll and is nearly as bad as goatse.cx!

First of all, he implies that open source is ugly, it is not! KDE has had deep theming aballities since KDE 2.0, which was lauched a year before XP! Look at the screenshots! Do they look ugly to you?.

Windows installers are NOT just double click, click next! Oh no! Get out your instruction manuals and jewl cases and get ready to enter that 50 digit serial number. Ooops you have to reboot. Ooops its installed something in your boot sector. Ooops you have a purple monkey laughing at you! Linux on the other hand lets you SINGLE click (thats easier), your root password (and some distros don't even make you do that) and your installed. With no reboot nesscessary.

Linux has a GUI for everything, stop trolling, or are you using Debian, Slackware or other old distro? Tell me how hard Yast or Drakconf is! Oh wait you can't!

Unified themes have been the standard since Redhat 8.0! most distros come with a unified theme, with Keramik being the most dominant!

So, It is obvious that this person (sic) hasn't tried Linux for at least 2 years! If he did, he would of not posted all of this flamebait!

He is also a member of the anti-slash group!

I just took a look at that site you pointed out, and the top-rated theme, Crystal SVG, appears to have ripped its UI straight the fuck out of Mac OS X (the icons) and Windows XP (window frames). I mean, they're so perfectly copied it'd be stretching the lie to call them "derivative." Depressing.

Hopefully the KDE Quality folks will be able to inject some originality into the project.

I just took a look at that site you pointed out, and the top-rated theme, Crystal SVG, appears to have ripped its UI straight the fuck out of Mac OS X (the icons) and Windows XP (window frames). I mean, they're so perfectly copied it'd be stretching the lie to call them "derivative." Depressing.

Hopefully the KDE Quality folks will be able to inject some originality into the project.

I understand what your posting. But take a look at Kde-look. Its a very different thing, slightly OT, but its a working community site that *encourages* non-developer interaction, something I believe KDE has pioneered with some success here. Everyone has a bugzilla site (which can be pretty intimidating to newer users) but KDE has succeeded in fostering a peripherial community in kde-look and I think its an important and sometimes (often) over looked thing. We need to encourage more participation from the non-developer community and I think they have something of a good track record (Kde-look has a good design that encourages new ideas).

For fostering a community unlike any other. www.kde-look.org has been my first stop to see modern ideas on desktop design for years now. I am not nor have I ever been a KDE fanboy (I'm a Blackbox user) but they have managed to form a remarkable bond with the graphics design community (and the graphically inclined). They should be a model for more OSS projects and this is something we should look at as a community as a whole. There is more to good software then 1's and 0's.

You mean like this?
Can't wait for part 2...

All the better to do things like this [kde-look] :-) -3po

Having said that, there are some horrible hacks which will give you a one-window gimp session that sort-of works.

can be found here, for those who don't want to wait for this lens to return something pretty...

To quote the lead comment on Groklaw... "priceless!" ;)

can really change the look of a desktop. There are lots of unusual panel and taskbar replacements, clocks, etc.

Also check out KDE-Look's screenshots section which is filled with unusual desktops.

<plug>
Finally, there is kleardock a nice dock and kicker replacement for KDE.
</plug>

http://www.kde-look.org has tons of awesome (and bad) themes, window decorations, icons, and all sorts of weird stuff to make kde look different.

Me, I'm still waiting for a kde theme that puts my title bar on the right hand side of the window vertically.

Of the two, SuperKaramba has more plugins that will appear to the novice or non-geek. To see SuperKaramba applets, go here (though the KDE-Look.org site is currently having fits, so you might have to check back later).

These bits of mostly eyecandy might help make a Linux desktop more interesting to the uninitated.

Check out http://www.kde-look.org/.
Good even if you don't use KDE, they have lots of Linux related wallpapers for instance.

One app I have fallen in love with is
SuperKaramba, a clone of Windows XP Samurize. It enabels easy Python scripting of widgets on the desktop, enabling such things as weather forecasts, system information, Mac OS X style dockers on your desktop, or even some very beautiful themes complete with new toolbars, XMMS skins etc.

Check out http://www.kde-look.org/.
Good even if you don't use KDE, they have lots of Linux related wallpapers for instance.

One app I have fallen in love with is
SuperKaramba, a clone of Windows XP Samurize. It enabels easy Python scripting of widgets on the desktop, enabling such things as weather forecasts, system information, Mac OS X style dockers on your desktop, or even some very beautiful themes complete with new toolbars, XMMS skins etc.

Check out http://www.kde-look.org/.
Good even if you don't use KDE, they have lots of Linux related wallpapers for instance.

One app I have fallen in love with is
SuperKaramba, a clone of Windows XP Samurize. It enabels easy Python scripting of widgets on the desktop, enabling such things as weather forecasts, system information, Mac OS X style dockers on your desktop, or even some very beautiful themes complete with new toolbars, XMMS skins etc.

Check out http://www.kde-look.org/.
Good even if you don't use KDE, they have lots of Linux related wallpapers for instance.

One app I have fallen in love with is
SuperKaramba, a clone of Windows XP Samurize. It enabels easy Python scripting of widgets on the desktop, enabling such things as weather forecasts, system information, Mac OS X style dockers on your desktop, or even some very beautiful themes complete with new toolbars, XMMS skins etc.

Check out http://www.kde-look.org/.
Good even if you don't use KDE, they have lots of Linux related wallpapers for instance.

One app I have fallen in love with is
SuperKaramba, a clone of Windows XP Samurize. It enabels easy Python scripting of widgets on the desktop, enabling such things as weather forecasts, system information, Mac OS X style dockers on your desktop, or even some very beautiful themes complete with new toolbars, XMMS skins etc.

KDE 3.2 by Krishnan Subramanian

Today I installed KDE 3.2, third major release of award winning KDE3 desktop platform, on my Fedora box. I have been using KDE 3.2 RC for the past few days and the final version from today. My first impression is "wow".

KDE 3.2 provides an integrated desktop along with various applications to carry out common desktop tasks such as web browsing, email, instant messaging, multimedia, graphics, etc. Some of the impressive features which you will notice include

• Increase in speed evident from faster application startup time
• Improvements in usability and performance
• Better appearance through interface refinement
• Browser performance boost evident through better webpage rendering

Upgrading to KDE 3.2 is a breeze. If you are a newbie and want to learn how to do it, you can refer to my HOWTO. I started my installation and within few minutes I am logged into my new KDE 3.2 desktop.

The desktop is very polished and you can configure it in any way you want by right clicking on the desktop. You can setup your desktop background as a slide show so that the background picture changes at predetermined intervals. The style and window decorations are very refined increasing the overall appearance. I love plastik for style and window decoration. A better icon set is also available. Now that you can find a wide array of themes and icon sets in www.kde-look.org, you can customize your KDE desktop in any way you want. In fact, you can even select the KDE splash screen (which appears when you login) from the available choices.

The K Menu is better organized now. It is grouped into "Most Used Application", "All Applications" and "Actions". Even the applications are grouped in a much better way compared to earlier version.

The new KHotkey feature is really hot. You can create keyboard shortcuts and mouse gestures for various tasks. This comes very handy. People used to such features in Microsoft Windows environment will love this feature. It is really cool to press the "Windows" key in your keyboard and see KMenu pop up in your screen.

The control center is well spruced up and better structured in KDE 3.2. Some of the tabs like background, window decoration, style etc. are redesigned.

Some of the welcome addtions to control center are

• Splash Screen - where you can select a KDE splash screen of your choice
• Wireless Network - where you can configure your wireless network. You can save upto four different configurations.
• Vim Component Configuration - where you can configure Vim to use inside KDE
• KHotkeys - where you can specify keyboard shortkeys and mouse gestures to lauch applications in KDE
• KDE Wallet - where you can configure KDE Wallet to store your internet and local passwords
• Sony Vaio Laptop - where you can configure the hardware for this laptop

KDE 3.2 has more countries under Country/Region. Also these countries are better organized. This is a very positive step in the internationalization efforts of KDE.

Another welcome feature in the control panel is the "Font installer". With this, installation of new fonts is a breeze. This is very useful for people who want to install their regional fonts and other extra fonts (many fonts are available in kde-look.org). The best aspect of the font installer is the instant preview available with it. I feel this is one of the greatest additions to KDE.

Many new applications are added and some of the existing applications have been upgraded. It is quite impossible to discuss all the applications available in KDE 3.2. I will just discuss some of the applications based on my preferences.

Konqueror: This is the central part of KDE e

Today I installed KDE 3.2, third major release of award winning KDE3 desktop platform, on my Fedora box. I have been using KDE 3.2 RC for the past few days and the final version from today. My first impression is "wow".

KDE 3.2 provides an integrated desktop along with various applications to carry out common desktop tasks such as web browsing, email, instant messaging, multimedia, graphics, etc. Some of the impressive features which you will notice include

• Increase in speed evident from faster application startup time
• Improvements in usability and performance
• Better appearance through interface refinement
• Browser performance boost evident through better webpage rendering

Upgrading to KDE 3.2 is a breeze. If you are a newbie and want to learn how to do it, you can refer to my HOWTO. I started my installation and within few minutes I am logged into my new KDE 3.2 desktop.

snip

The desktop is very polished and you can configure it in any way you want by right clicking on the desktop. You can setup your desktop background as a slide show so that the background picture changes at predetermined intervals. The style and window decorations are very refined increasing the overall appearance. I love plastik for style and window decoration. A better icon set is also available. Now that you can find a wide array of themes and icon sets in www.kde-look.org, you can customize your KDE desktop in any way you want. In fact, you can even select the KDE splash screen (which appears when you login) from the available choices.

The K Menu is better organized now. It is grouped into "Most Used Application", "All Applications" and "Actions". Even the applications are grouped in a much better way compared to earlier version.

The new KHotkey feature is really hot. You can create keyboard shortcuts and mouse gestures for various tasks. This comes very handy. People used to such features in Microsoft Windows environment will love this feature. It is really cool to press the "Windows" key in your keyboard and see KMenu pop up in your screen. snip

The control center is well spruced up and better structured in KDE 3.2. Some of the tabs like background, window decoration, style etc. are redesigned. snip Some of the welcome addtions to control center are

• Splash Screen - where you can select a KDE splash screen of your choice
• Wireless Network - where you can configure your wireless network. You can save upto four different configurations.
• Vim Component Configuration - where you can configure Vim to use inside KDE
• KHotkeys - where you can specify keyboard shortkeys and mouse gestures to lauch applications in KDE
• KDE Wallet - where you can configure KDE Wallet to store your internet and local passwords
• Sony Vaio Laptop - where you can configure the hardware for this laptop

KDE 3.2 has more countries under Country/Region. Also these countries are better organized. This is a very positive step in the internationalization efforts of KDE.

Another welcome feature in the control panel is the "Font installer". With this, installation of new fonts is a breeze. This is very useful for people who want to install their regional fonts and other extra fonts (many fonts are available in kde-look.org). The best aspect of the font installer is the instant preview available with it. I feel this is one of the greatest additions to KDE.

Many new applications are added and some of the existing applications have been upgraded. It is quite impossible to discuss all the applications available in KDE 3.2. I will just discuss some of the applications based on my preferences.

Konqueror: This is the central part of KDE environment. it is a web browser, file man

What you see on the screenshots is the KDE Alloy Theme, not the Java Alloy Look&Feel.

1. More consistentcy between apps due to the Human Interface Guidelines
And this has been a big problem in KDE?

2. Nicer interface layout. Better spacing, and I like the OS 9 style menu up the top, feels less like a windows clone, taking the best from both worlds. Also less flashly, more standard than KDE.
Well, I like the KDE one is better, and ofcourse you can customize them as you like. Not big problem.. Btw, what do you mean with more standard?

3. Options. Apart from Gconf, GNOME comes with far less options. KDE is nice, but trying to locate an option in the KDE Control Center is hell. GConf is a far better way to go.
Have you tried the search of kcontrol? Anyways yes, it's too complicated imho too. But it's far more userfriendly than gconf.. But if you like gconf is better, maybe you should try kconfedit when it comes out (don't ask me when :)

4. Apps. GNOME/GTK2+ has all the apps I want. Gems like Rhythmbox and the GIMP when there is nothing that compares on KDE. Also the old standbys like Abiword, Bluefish and Gnumeric.
Oh, since when GIMP has been a gnome app? Yes I've heard something work on this is going on, but it isn't yet here.. And there is JuK in KDE which is pretty similiar Rhythmbox, I think.. And how about koffice stuff? Bluefish is HTML editor right? Quanta+ then..

5. Lastly, the GNOME community! Sites like planet.gnome.org and gnomedesktop.org help GNOME rock just that much more.
Yes, I love KDE community a lot too! :) Sites like Dot aka news.kde.org, KDE-Look and KDE-Apps are pretty actives and you can see from those what's happening there in community. For developer stuff there's KDEDevelopers site with developer blogs on it. And at last there's a good wiki (KDE Community Wiki Site) maintained by developers and users of KDE.