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Re:CrazyYou are full of sh*t: you stole that line from this developer's post:
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2004-02/m sg04634.phpModerators, keep an eye open!
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Linux 2.6 on Mandrake 10
The next release of Mandrake Linux will feature the 2.6 kernel. They are at Beta 2 of Mandrake 10 right now. Fedora Core Test 2 is specifically for testing the 26 kernel, among other things.
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Re:Microsoft Killers : Premature?
Are you sure you are USING a ATI Rage 128 card? I have never had a problem with an ATI rag 128 card on it. Linux even supported 1920x1440 on my monitor! Which is really nice and big! Again, if you are having problems test and report bugs. Mandrake relies on its community for improving its software, so get helping rather than posting on Slashdot about your problems.
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Re:Microsoft Killers : Premature?
Report to Mandrake about the Camera, They cant possibly try every single camera about there. PLease visit The bug report page about it. You can also try the latest beta of Mandrake to see it if it works out of the box. If it dosent, then report a bug. Part of the Open Source movmenment is that EVERYBODY needs to take part. If you dont report bugs and problems, then dont complain about them!
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Do it the easy way : Get Manadrake 10-beta2
Mandrake 10 will be the first major distro use Kernel 2.6. Download the beta here.
Easy to install, just download the ISOs, burn to disk, reboot and the installer will appear.
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Re:for anyone who doesn't know, use these tools
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For those french speakers out there...
[Funny how
/. strips out all non-pure-ascii characters from posts... Can't use dead keys here?]
Remember, Mandrake is french, so you have the bonus of having the french press release too!
Pour ceux qui parlent francais dans la foule: n'oubliez pas! Mandrake est une entreprise francaise, alors vous avez enfin la chance de lire un communique en francais!
Le communique! -
Re:Where's the distros
Beta 1 of Mandrake 10.0 gives you the choice of kernel 2.6.1 or 2.4.25pre6.
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Re:Where's the distros
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Re:Athlon64 Coming Along Slowly
Yep. Start here
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Actually, there are a number of them already...
For example:
- SuSE 9.0 Pro for amd64.
- SuSE Enterprise Server 8 for amd64.
- Mandrake 9.2rc1 for amd64.
- Fedora Core1 test1 for amd64.
- Gentoo's amd64 info
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS & WS are available for amd64.
I've been using Gentoo's amd64 stuff for a little while on my new Shuttle Box. Things are generally good although there are still a lot of packages that are masked. KDE is also problematic which may be a turn-off for some people.
A colleague just got a new dual-opteron Workstation from Pogo and is running SuSE 9.0 pro for amd64 and is rather happy -- just about everything plays nicely.
Multimedia has significant problems on both systems. No flash player for 64-bit, mplayer and related multimedia requiring 32-bit codecs. Nvidia amd 64 drivers require some patching if they work at all, at least as of last wednesday.
Otherwise quite happy with all of these. Mandrake claims to have multimedia stuff working properly (see above link for info) but wants to eat my partition table so I haven't checked it out yet.
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"Now you'll see why they call me the Velour Fog" --Zapp Brannigan, 25-star General & Cpt. -
Bittorrent knoppix link
Before the knoppix server dies, here's the tracker for the bittorrent so everyone can download knoppix.
here for the bittorrent client.
Also, MandrakeMove torrent -
It's fixed
According to Mandrake's website, LG released firmware updates to their drives back in November. So you should be safe if you download those.
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Mandrake = Mindshare..
I agree that things are heating up. Novell is in a very interesting position. Mandrake still has a couple of advantages, mainly they have probably got one of the most active (for a commercial distro) communities surrounding them. Package resources like THAC and PLF keep a steady stream of great easy to install (newbie friendly) software available (like the whole MythTV package WITH all dependencies). Their entire approach to business will keep some users very dedicated (all MandrakeSoft created software is released under the GPL).
That said, as I mentioned in an earlier post, they are slightly falling behind in total integration, but maybe now that they are in the black they can afford to be a little more aggressive in the R&D department. -
Re:How much was operating revenue?
I am sure most people know this already but Mandrake 9.2 (The current version) most certainly includes a kernel higher than 2.2.
from http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/9.2/features/
Mandrake Linux 9.2 features the following software:
Kernel 2.4.22 (a Linux 2.6.0pre kernel is also provided in contribs)
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"280,000"... what? bananas?
... 280,000 Euro, which is around $358,000.
Additionally, there are two important facts in their financial results: 1) revenue has increased of +8.4% compared to the same quarter for year 2002/03 2) the gross margin increased of +28.9% during the same time. More importantly: their gross margin has reached 82% of revenue. This is excellent and shows that their business model has improved much and potentially makes MandrakeSoft a very profitable company.
Nice shot for a pure Open Source company. -
Re:Mandrake RPMs?
Try the Mandrake Cooker. It has RPMs for the latest software to test them for future versions of Mandrake.
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Re:Linuxworld server already melting...
me: that is a 2.6-test kernel... not the same thing as the 2.6 kernel itself.
you: You are provably wrong. Where are you taking your information from?
no.. really... 2.6 is not the same as 2.6-test. prove me wrong. please.
parent and you: provides Linux 2.6 as kernel default since december
That is the line I was talking about. Using the parent's citation at cooker snapshot, I can show that indeed, he was talking about 2.6 being there when his citation said 2.6-test.
From that page:
- content: 1 ISO image with Linux 2.6.0-test1, XFree 4.4pre, Gcc 3.3.2 and KDE 3.2pre.
Again, for the hard of hearing.... 2.6-test is not the same as the full 2.6 kernel.
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Re:Linuxworld server already melting...
You are provably wrong. Where are you taking your information from?For your information, Cooker provides Linux 2.6 as kernel default since december. ISO snapshots are available here [mandrakelinux.com] for download, with also a preview of the new KDE.
that is a 2.6-test kernel... not the same thing as the 2.6 kernel itself.
Cooker had the final 2.6.0 since Dec, 18th [1] and is currently available with 2.6.1 by contributers. Maybe you refer to the first snapshot ISOs, which were made mid-december and so couldn't possibly include anything than a 2.6-test kernel (2.6.0 was released after the snapshots were taken, and so the 2.6-test kernels were all that was available at that time).
But that snapshot is long outdated. The latest was released on the 1st and included a 2.6.0 kernel. The next Cooker snapshot is due any day now should even more recent kernel packages. Not sure, if 2.6.1 will make it (regardless, an up-to-date 2.6.1 kernel, heavily based on the -mm tree, is available in contribs already [2]).
Anyhow, the point of the original poster was that Mandrake Linux 10.0 will ship with a reasonably recent 2.6 kernel as option. AFAIK, the aim is to let it be the default option, with 2.4 as alternative, but that will be determined by how stable it is at the time of the freeze and if all the common hardware is supported good enough. (I am too lazy too dig up a link to the cooker mailing list archive... if you don't believe me after I showed references for all my other claims, go looking yourself ;).
[1] From the rpm changelog... You can get the rpm here (currently it's 2.6.0.1mdk-1-1mdk and view the log with
rpm -qip --changelog filename
* Thu Dec 18 2003 Nicolas Planel <xxx@mandrakesoft.com> 2.6.0-1mdk
- 2.6.0 final version ;)
- ndis wrapper 0.3.
- fix uss725.
[2] And before anyone screams about not wanting to run a kernel by contributers: Nobody says you must. But experience shows these contributers know what they do and that most patches get integrated in the official mdk-kernel later (note that the contributers mainly integrate existing patches by "official" kernel developers and don't write their own). It's kind of a testbed like the -mm tree is for the "official" Linus kernel, currently. -
Re:Linuxworld server already melting...
>For now I will be working the stabilisation of
> kernel 2.6 and in a month or two I expect Fedora
> (the core of Red Hat Linux) to have a release with
> 2.6 so I expect to get more bug reports.
For your information, Cooker provides Linux 2.6 as kernel default since december. ISO snapshots are available here for download, with also a preview of the new KDE. -
Re:Linuxworld server already melting...
>For now I will be working the stabilisation of
> kernel 2.6 and in a month or two I expect Fedora
> (the core of Red Hat Linux) to have a release with
> 2.6 so I expect to get more bug reports.
For your information, Cooker provides Linux 2.6 as kernel default since december. ISO snapshots are available here for download, with also a preview of the new KDE. -
Re:Boxed version vs. Download version
not totaly true...
Although MandrakeMove uses the CD-ROM drive, you can eject the CD to read multimedia contents from another disc!
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Re:The torrent...
Or try this one: Torrent from Mandrakes site.
There seems to be no link to it from Mdks site, but the search finds it. Unfortunately, this means that only 54% is seeded ATM. -
Re:The torrent...Some people might feel more comfartable by using the official Mandrake 9.2 3CD torrent.
You need Bittorrent to download the above file.
And remember to keep the connection open as long as possible after you've finished downloading. -
Re:STILL waiting for...
That new Mandrake 10 preview edition or cooker contains a 2.6 kernel by default, those might work with your SATA hardware.
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Links please?!
"2) Product lifetimes are not hidden
A product lifetime table for all major MandrakeSoft products is publicly available on the Mandrake Linux website. For example, the Mandrake Linux 9.2 Download, Discovery, PowerPack and ProSuite editions will be supported with core updates until March 30, 2005. "
Why they didn't provide the link to the table I have no idea, but after several minutes (way to damn long) of searching here it is:
Product lifetimes
They sure did a good job of hiding it in my opinion. If this is something they are actively marketing, why don't they have a huge link on the front page?
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Troll..
Mandrake started their "Mandrake Club" in late 2001. You can read the press release here (December 10th 2001) and a related Slashdot story here. As you know, of course from reading, Mandrake filed for protection at the end of January 2003.
Your just another troll, not even good enough to do a quick search. I applaud Mandrake and their attempt to build a successful and progressive business model. I'm a member since 2001. -
MandrakeClub Subscription
If you find yourself looking for Mandrake rpm's all the time, searching forums with the keyword Mandrake often enough, or want to join a productive and growing community, consider joining MandrakeClub.
You are supporting Mandrake (the developers, company, and distribution) through MandrakeClub. There are several benefits that are nice to have (select mirrors, a huge archive of Mandrake rpms, and bittorrents for ISO's) not to mention the fact that you are supporting an operating systems designed with you in mind. There are even forums for different languages. This is a volunteer community by-and-large. No one was forced to come because they found Mandrake preloaded on their computer.
You pay for one year, with 4 levels of subscription. A silver subscription gets you most everything you want for $120/year. Remember, you are not just supporting a corporation. You are supporting a free product (development, patching, documentation, and web hosting) which brings free software that much closer to everyone (including you).
I do not work for Mandrake. Look at the options yourself. And remember Linux and Mandrake are not free because they don't cost anything - they are free because they are supported by people who believe they should be free. -
MandrakeClub Subscription
If you find yourself looking for Mandrake rpm's all the time, searching forums with the keyword Mandrake often enough, or want to join a productive and growing community, consider joining MandrakeClub.
You are supporting Mandrake (the developers, company, and distribution) through MandrakeClub. There are several benefits that are nice to have (select mirrors, a huge archive of Mandrake rpms, and bittorrents for ISO's) not to mention the fact that you are supporting an operating systems designed with you in mind. There are even forums for different languages. This is a volunteer community by-and-large. No one was forced to come because they found Mandrake preloaded on their computer.
You pay for one year, with 4 levels of subscription. A silver subscription gets you most everything you want for $120/year. Remember, you are not just supporting a corporation. You are supporting a free product (development, patching, documentation, and web hosting) which brings free software that much closer to everyone (including you).
I do not work for Mandrake. Look at the options yourself. And remember Linux and Mandrake are not free because they don't cost anything - they are free because they are supported by people who believe they should be free. -
Re:Business model?
Have a look at this page;
In November 2001, MandrakeSoft introduced MandrakeClub -- a new concept of offering special services and benefits to Club members which also helps the distribution stay true to the Open Source spirit.
They filed for chapter 11 this year. That means they have been asking for donations through the club for two years before they started having real financial troubles. -
Re:good for them
I totally agree, and Mandrake is a great distro. I don't like SuSE's way of releasing their distro (ftp anyone?), and Redhat dropped the free version entirely, so for the desktop I usually recommend Mandrake for people just wanting to try Linux. I have great respect for their installer, which I find to be excellent!
IMHO this is great news, and as you say hopefully others will follow this model.
The latest version can be bought of Mandrake or downloaded from Linuxiso.org.
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Re:Membership and Mandrake?Actually, you want this torrent:
MD5 checksum: 111682eae2c454b4ca780119f63f8ad4 MandrakeMove-rc-i586.iso
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Re:Good idea using a USB Key....
It's not the best-designed web page, but it's mentioned on Mandrake's home page - it's in the news section towards the right (but has been pushed down a little due to more recent news).
It's also on Mandrake's errata page, this time a little more prominently. -
Re:Good idea using a USB Key....
It's not the best-designed web page, but it's mentioned on Mandrake's home page - it's in the news section towards the right (but has been pushed down a little due to more recent news).
It's also on Mandrake's errata page, this time a little more prominently. -
Re:Membership and Mandrake?
Okay, I'm an idiot. I found the torrent link from the mirrors page.
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Re:Not even improvements to SMTP will fix spam.
"Do you have some improvements in mind which would obviate the zombie-army problem? I'd love to hear them."
Try this one -
TORRENT
Link:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent
Text only (for easy copy/pasting):
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLi nu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent -
Click This! HTML, Do you speak it?
Torrent for you, futhamucka!
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Re:Now taking bets..
No worries. torrent link to the rescue!
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I think he meant..
Major commercial distribution. Gentoo, Debian and Fedora are great, but for a commercial player Mandrake has been a surprisingly upstanding member of the OSS community. Not only in keeping Mandrake free (as in beer and freedom) but actively using alternative funding methods in an attempt to reasonably sustain that freedom (in a commercail marketplace).
I've got a lot of respect for that. -
Re:OSS distributions?
Considering that RMS seems to think even Debian isn't really a Free Software(tm) distro, I find it difficult to image that Mandrake qualifies.
On the 9.2 comparison chart you can clearly see that every version of Mandrake other than the Download edition includes plenty of proprietary software.
Take a look at the M's in Debian's non-free section and compare it to Mandrake's package list.
Don't get me wrong. Most of what I know about GNU/Linux I learned on Mandrake. Implying that it's the last of the free software distros is comical though. -
Get with the BitTorrent, folks...
Here's the torrent:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent
Make with the downloading...I'm only getting 160k/sec so far :-) -
Couldn't the poster link the Torrent?
It's really simple. That and I want my download to go faster
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BitTorrent
BitTorrent link from Mandrake. It's located on the download page right before the FTP mirror list:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent -
Re:How about a .torrent?
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Ob Features and mirrorsThe mirror list can be found here and the features include the following great new items:
-Kernel 2.4.22 (a Linux 2.6.0pre kernel is also provided in contribs)
-Net code 6.1 which halves ping times
-XFree86 4.3 (including long-delayed support for scroll mice!)
-Glibc 2.3.2 -GCC 3.3.1 (no more pointer errors, the Turing-complete code self-checker works great) -
Fedora vs. Mandrake: a merger?
Despite financial problems earlier this year, Mandrake Linux has gained big popularity with their latest Linux distributions, and it seems to go quicker now (see distro ranking at distrowatch). They also have been pionneers of "what Red Hat should have done earlier" (release of ISO images, Cooker community...) and are inventing new interesting business models that seem work now (Mandrake Club).
Compared to Red Hat, MandrakeSoft has very small financial capabilities, very low press coverage, but is still growing and attracting a large user and contributor community. Additionally, they now have a full range of products, from the pure desktop product to the clustering solution. They generally have excellent new technologies (URPMI/RPMDrake/dynamic desktop...), excellent support policy (see http://www.mandrakesecure.net) and again with very low ressources. Why? Maybe MandrakeSoft understood something about the Linux community, a way to listen to it carefully (maybe too much sometimes).
Why wouldn't Red Hat trust Mandrake and let them deal with that? Red Hat could certainly buy MandrakeSoft easily, and the "Mandrake" brandname could become the community Red Hat brandname, by merging with Fedora. The "Mandrake" brandname is already very well known and this would be better for Red Hat than trying to impose the new "Fedora" brandname (this could take years).
Mandrake has always been a kind of little brother of Red Hat. They know how to do things Red Hat don't know how to deal with or don't want to do - and now they are profitable with this model. It could turn into a great thing for Red Hat and would help to catch a new big part of Linux users, in particular newcomers, individuals and small corporates, from the Windows world. At the same time this would avoid to frustrate millions of Red Hat users that are now considering a switch to another Linux distribution.
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Re:Who's Desktop?
I wish KDE and GNOME could have some sort of truce and just make the a collabritive effort to help the Desktop. None of the projects work together even though they all depend on each other.
Odd, they have had a truce, and Blucurve is part of Fedora Core 1.
Tryknoppix for KDE 3.1 and Debian Unstable and Slackware and Mandrake for both Gnome 2.4, and KDE 3.1. (they now share a desktop now mind you)
I thnk that most of the "fanboys", or people who acutaly took the time to learn and use Linux would agree with me that in the past year alone there has been exponential progres with KDE and GNOME to the point that they really are ready for the desktop, if not very very close.
A year ago the parent(s) might have been accurate a year ago but not they are just troll. -
Re: New 9.2 ISOsThey might have just made a whole new release and bumped the version number. As it stands now, distributing diffs between 9.2 and a future 9.3 would be extremely difficult. At least bump the revision to 9.2.1 or something. You would think they would know how to do releases by now.
And one would think that you know not to blindly believe anything in a ./ story but to read the article, by now.
The only mention of a new 9.2. is in the ./ story. The article speaks only ofA new kernel (2.4.22-21mdk) has been released that fixes this problem in the kernel, although the CD-ROM devices are still not up to specification. New CDs and ISOs will be available shortly to correct these problems; they will come with the new kernel.
No mention whether they keep the label 9.2 or not. And news.osdir.com probably doesn't have any more insight, anyhow, because that paragraph is simply a direct letter by letter copy of the one in the official Mandrake errata.
AFAICS, there was no statement about the label in any official place (mandrakeclub, mandrake.com, the mailing lists, ...). I don't imply to say that they won't keep the 9.2 label. I just say that there is no way to know yet, what they will see as most practical way to handle the situation. -
oh, come fucking on
First concentrate on writing software that doesn't irreversibly
damage users' hardware. Then go play with fancy licensing stuff.