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The next release of Mandrake Linux will feature the 2.6 kernel. They are at Beta 2 of Mandrake 10 right now. Fedora Core Test 2 is specifically for testing the 26 kernel, among other things.

Are you sure you are USING a ATI Rage 128 card? I have never had a problem with an ATI rag 128 card on it. Linux even supported 1920x1440 on my monitor! Which is really nice and big! Again, if you are having problems test and report bugs. Mandrake relies on its community for improving its software, so get helping rather than posting on Slashdot about your problems.

Report to Mandrake about the Camera, They cant possibly try every single camera about there. PLease visit The bug report page about it. You can also try the latest beta of Mandrake to see it if it works out of the box. If it dosent, then report a bug. Part of the Open Source movmenment is that EVERYBODY needs to take part. If you dont report bugs and problems, then dont complain about them!

Mandrake 10 will be the first major distro use Kernel 2.6. Download the beta here.

Easy to install, just download the ISOs, burn to disk, reboot and the installer will appear.

Make sure to REPORT ALL BUGS, unless you want to see the LG incident again.

fdisk
Slackware
Debian
Mandrake

Surely you can think of others ;)

[Funny how /. strips out all non-pure-ascii characters from posts... Can't use dead keys here?]

Remember, Mandrake is french, so you have the bonus of having the french press release too!

Pour ceux qui parlent francais dans la foule: n'oubliez pas! Mandrake est une entreprise francaise, alors vous avez enfin la chance de lire un communique en francais!

Le communique!

Beta 1 of Mandrake 10.0 gives you the choice of kernel 2.6.1 or 2.4.25pre6.

mass-distribution before we even hit 2.6.2 might be a BIG mistake

FC2 test1 should be out next week with a post-2.6.1 kernel as default. With SELinux to boot, though it's recommended to disable it at boot time for test1. Mandrake 10.0 beta1 has 2.6.1 too.

Yep. Start here

For example:

• SuSE 9.0 Pro for amd64.
• SuSE Enterprise Server 8 for amd64.
• Mandrake 9.2rc1 for amd64.
• Fedora Core1 test1 for amd64.
• Gentoo's amd64 info
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS & WS are available for amd64.

I've been using Gentoo's amd64 stuff for a little while on my new Shuttle Box. Things are generally good although there are still a lot of packages that are masked. KDE is also problematic which may be a turn-off for some people.

A colleague just got a new dual-opteron Workstation from Pogo and is running SuSE 9.0 pro for amd64 and is rather happy -- just about everything plays nicely.

Multimedia has significant problems on both systems. No flash player for 64-bit, mplayer and related multimedia requiring 32-bit codecs. Nvidia amd 64 drivers require some patching if they work at all, at least as of last wednesday.

Otherwise quite happy with all of these. Mandrake claims to have multimedia stuff working properly (see above link for info) but wants to eat my partition table so I haven't checked it out yet.

--
"Now you'll see why they call me the Velour Fog" --Zapp Brannigan, 25-star General & Cpt.

Before the knoppix server dies, here's the tracker for the bittorrent so everyone can download knoppix.
here for the bittorrent client.
Also, MandrakeMove torrent

According to Mandrake's website, LG released firmware updates to their drives back in November. So you should be safe if you download those.

I agree that things are heating up. Novell is in a very interesting position. Mandrake still has a couple of advantages, mainly they have probably got one of the most active (for a commercial distro) communities surrounding them. Package resources like THAC and PLF keep a steady stream of great easy to install (newbie friendly) software available (like the whole MythTV package WITH all dependencies). Their entire approach to business will keep some users very dedicated (all MandrakeSoft created software is released under the GPL).

That said, as I mentioned in an earlier post, they are slightly falling behind in total integration, but maybe now that they are in the black they can afford to be a little more aggressive in the R&D department.

I am sure most people know this already but Mandrake 9.2 (The current version) most certainly includes a kernel higher than 2.2.

from http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/9.2/features/

Mandrake Linux 9.2 features the following software:
Kernel 2.4.22 (a Linux 2.6.0pre kernel is also provided in contribs)
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... 280,000 Euro, which is around $358,000.

Additionally, there are two important facts in their financial results: 1) revenue has increased of +8.4% compared to the same quarter for year 2002/03 2) the gross margin increased of +28.9% during the same time. More importantly: their gross margin has reached 82% of revenue. This is excellent and shows that their business model has improved much and potentially makes MandrakeSoft a very profitable company.

Nice shot for a pure Open Source company.

Try the Mandrake Cooker. It has RPMs for the latest software to test them for future versions of Mandrake.

me: that is a 2.6-test kernel... not the same thing as the 2.6 kernel itself.

you: You are provably wrong. Where are you taking your information from?

parent and you: provides Linux 2.6 as kernel default since december

- content: 1 ISO image with Linux 2.6.0-test1, XFree 4.4pre, Gcc 3.3.2 and KDE 3.2pre.

For your information, Cooker provides Linux 2.6 as kernel default since december. ISO snapshots are available here [mandrakelinux.com] for download, with also a preview of the new KDE.

that is a 2.6-test kernel... not the same thing as the 2.6 kernel itself.

>For now I will be working the stabilisation of
> kernel 2.6 and in a month or two I expect Fedora
> (the core of Red Hat Linux) to have a release with
> 2.6 so I expect to get more bug reports.

For your information, Cooker provides Linux 2.6 as kernel default since december. ISO snapshots are available here for download, with also a preview of the new KDE.

>For now I will be working the stabilisation of
> kernel 2.6 and in a month or two I expect Fedora
> (the core of Red Hat Linux) to have a release with
> 2.6 so I expect to get more bug reports.

For your information, Cooker provides Linux 2.6 as kernel default since december. ISO snapshots are available here for download, with also a preview of the new KDE.

not totaly true...
Although MandrakeMove uses the CD-ROM drive, you can eject the CD to read multimedia contents from another disc!

It's all right here

Or try this one: Torrent from Mandrakes site.

There seems to be no link to it from Mdks site, but the search finds it. Unfortunately, this means that only 54% is seeded ATM.

You need Bittorrent to download the above file.
And remember to keep the connection open as long as possible after you've finished downloading.

That new Mandrake 10 preview edition or cooker contains a 2.6 kernel by default, those might work with your SATA hardware.

"2) Product lifetimes are not hidden

A product lifetime table for all major MandrakeSoft products is publicly available on the Mandrake Linux website. For example, the Mandrake Linux 9.2 Download, Discovery, PowerPack and ProSuite editions will be supported with core updates until March 30, 2005. "

Why they didn't provide the link to the table I have no idea, but after several minutes (way to damn long) of searching here it is:

Product lifetimes

They sure did a good job of hiding it in my opinion. If this is something they are actively marketing, why don't they have a huge link on the front page?

Mandrake started their "Mandrake Club" in late 2001. You can read the press release here (December 10th 2001) and a related Slashdot story here. As you know, of course from reading, Mandrake filed for protection at the end of January 2003.

Your just another troll, not even good enough to do a quick search. I applaud Mandrake and their attempt to build a successful and progressive business model. I'm a member since 2001.

If you find yourself looking for Mandrake rpm's all the time, searching forums with the keyword Mandrake often enough, or want to join a productive and growing community, consider joining MandrakeClub.

You are supporting Mandrake (the developers, company, and distribution) through MandrakeClub. There are several benefits that are nice to have (select mirrors, a huge archive of Mandrake rpms, and bittorrents for ISO's) not to mention the fact that you are supporting an operating systems designed with you in mind. There are even forums for different languages. This is a volunteer community by-and-large. No one was forced to come because they found Mandrake preloaded on their computer.

You pay for one year, with 4 levels of subscription. A silver subscription gets you most everything you want for $120/year. Remember, you are not just supporting a corporation. You are supporting a free product (development, patching, documentation, and web hosting) which brings free software that much closer to everyone (including you).

I do not work for Mandrake. Look at the options yourself. And remember Linux and Mandrake are not free because they don't cost anything - they are free because they are supported by people who believe they should be free.

If you find yourself looking for Mandrake rpm's all the time, searching forums with the keyword Mandrake often enough, or want to join a productive and growing community, consider joining MandrakeClub.

You are supporting Mandrake (the developers, company, and distribution) through MandrakeClub. There are several benefits that are nice to have (select mirrors, a huge archive of Mandrake rpms, and bittorrents for ISO's) not to mention the fact that you are supporting an operating systems designed with you in mind. There are even forums for different languages. This is a volunteer community by-and-large. No one was forced to come because they found Mandrake preloaded on their computer.

You pay for one year, with 4 levels of subscription. A silver subscription gets you most everything you want for $120/year. Remember, you are not just supporting a corporation. You are supporting a free product (development, patching, documentation, and web hosting) which brings free software that much closer to everyone (including you).

I do not work for Mandrake. Look at the options yourself. And remember Linux and Mandrake are not free because they don't cost anything - they are free because they are supported by people who believe they should be free.

Have a look at this page;

In November 2001, MandrakeSoft introduced MandrakeClub -- a new concept of offering special services and benefits to Club members which also helps the distribution stay true to the Open Source spirit.
They filed for chapter 11 this year. That means they have been asking for donations through the club for two years before they started having real financial troubles.

I totally agree, and Mandrake is a great distro. I don't like SuSE's way of releasing their distro (ftp anyone?), and Redhat dropped the free version entirely, so for the desktop I usually recommend Mandrake for people just wanting to try Linux. I have great respect for their installer, which I find to be excellent!
IMHO this is great news, and as you say hopefully others will follow this model.

The latest version can be bought of Mandrake or downloaded from Linuxiso.org.
Feel like supporting ?

MD5 checksum: 111682eae2c454b4ca780119f63f8ad4 MandrakeMove-rc-i586.iso

It's not the best-designed web page, but it's mentioned on Mandrake's home page - it's in the news section towards the right (but has been pushed down a little due to more recent news).

It's also on Mandrake's errata page, this time a little more prominently.

It's not the best-designed web page, but it's mentioned on Mandrake's home page - it's in the news section towards the right (but has been pushed down a little due to more recent news).

It's also on Mandrake's errata page, this time a little more prominently.

Okay, I'm an idiot. I found the torrent link from the mirrors page.

"Do you have some improvements in mind which would obviate the zombie-army problem? I'd love to hear them."

Try this one

Link:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent

Text only (for easy copy/pasting):

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLi nu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent

Torrent for you, futhamucka!

No worries. torrent link to the rescue!

Major commercial distribution. Gentoo, Debian and Fedora are great, but for a commercial player Mandrake has been a surprisingly upstanding member of the OSS community. Not only in keeping Mandrake free (as in beer and freedom) but actively using alternative funding methods in an attempt to reasonably sustain that freedom (in a commercail marketplace).

I've got a lot of respect for that.

Considering that RMS seems to think even Debian isn't really a Free Software(tm) distro, I find it difficult to image that Mandrake qualifies.

On the 9.2 comparison chart you can clearly see that every version of Mandrake other than the Download edition includes plenty of proprietary software.

Take a look at the M's in Debian's non-free section and compare it to Mandrake's package list.

Don't get me wrong. Most of what I know about GNU/Linux I learned on Mandrake. Implying that it's the last of the free software distros is comical though.

Here's the torrent:

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent

Make with the downloading...I'm only getting 160k/sec so far :-)

It's really simple. That and I want my download to go faster :-P

BitTorrent link from Mandrake. It's located on the download page right before the FTP mirror list:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent

Link to torrent

-Kernel 2.4.22 (a Linux 2.6.0pre kernel is also provided in contribs)
-Net code 6.1 which halves ping times
-XFree86 4.3 (including long-delayed support for scroll mice!)
-Glibc 2.3.2 -GCC 3.3.1 (no more pointer errors, the Turing-complete code self-checker works great)

Despite financial problems earlier this year, Mandrake Linux has gained big popularity with their latest Linux distributions, and it seems to go quicker now (see distro ranking at distrowatch). They also have been pionneers of "what Red Hat should have done earlier" (release of ISO images, Cooker community...) and are inventing new interesting business models that seem work now (Mandrake Club).

Compared to Red Hat, MandrakeSoft has very small financial capabilities, very low press coverage, but is still growing and attracting a large user and contributor community. Additionally, they now have a full range of products, from the pure desktop product to the clustering solution. They generally have excellent new technologies (URPMI/RPMDrake/dynamic desktop...), excellent support policy (see http://www.mandrakesecure.net) and again with very low ressources. Why? Maybe MandrakeSoft understood something about the Linux community, a way to listen to it carefully (maybe too much sometimes).

Why wouldn't Red Hat trust Mandrake and let them deal with that? Red Hat could certainly buy MandrakeSoft easily, and the "Mandrake" brandname could become the community Red Hat brandname, by merging with Fedora. The "Mandrake" brandname is already very well known and this would be better for Red Hat than trying to impose the new "Fedora" brandname (this could take years).

Mandrake has always been a kind of little brother of Red Hat. They know how to do things Red Hat don't know how to deal with or don't want to do - and now they are profitable with this model. It could turn into a great thing for Red Hat and would help to catch a new big part of Linux users, in particular newcomers, individuals and small corporates, from the Windows world. At the same time this would avoid to frustrate millions of Red Hat users that are now considering a switch to another Linux distribution.

So why wouldn't Red Hat trust Mandrake for the community side of Linux?

I wish KDE and GNOME could have some sort of truce and just make the a collabritive effort to help the Desktop. None of the projects work together even though they all depend on each other.

Odd, they have had a truce, and Blucurve is part of Fedora Core 1.

Tryknoppix for KDE 3.1 and Debian Unstable and Slackware and Mandrake for both Gnome 2.4, and KDE 3.1. (they now share a desktop now mind you)

I thnk that most of the "fanboys", or people who acutaly took the time to learn and use Linux would agree with me that in the past year alone there has been exponential progres with KDE and GNOME to the point that they really are ready for the desktop, if not very very close.
A year ago the parent(s) might have been accurate a year ago but not they are just troll.

A new kernel (2.4.22-21mdk) has been released that fixes this problem in the kernel, although the CD-ROM devices are still not up to specification. New CDs and ISOs will be available shortly to correct these problems; they will come with the new kernel.

First concentrate on writing software that doesn't irreversibly
damage users' hardware. Then go play with fancy licensing stuff.