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Did someone let them know that the company they hired to back up their data is garbage? (i365, a Seagate company: https://services.seagate.com/contact.aspx)
They must be using all that Maxtor ( http://www.maxtor.com/home-en-us.html ) junk to store the data.

I wish New Orleans could catch a break, just one time.

do you see any bootable CD images here? and the BIOS upgrade for my ancient Biostar motherboard (so ancient it runs an Athlon 3500+ in an AM2 socket) was also a floppy image.

I'd love to shitcan my floppy drive... they're cheap, but flaky... and everyone knows about the inherent problems with floppies, but until vendors stop distributing diagnostics and BIOS upgrades on floppy and distribute them on CD images instead, those of us who deal with real-world hardware still have to deal with floppies.

Friday morning I tried to put in an RMA for a Maxtor which is developing the Click-of-death. Their site claims to be down for "system maintenance"

Strange how the maintenance covers the entire last 2 days of the month - also the last 2 days of many people's warrantees. Funny, huh?

I noticed recently (as did many other Maxtor HDD owners) that the performance and behaviour of my Maxtor HDD was beginning to go. I don't really find it a big deal, but thought I'd check out what Maxtor was doing about it. They now have a page in their support section dedicated to this issue, but since it just tells you to contact the vendor, I did. I took mine in to the nearest Best But, and after attempting (and failing) to get an in-store replacement he told me they could order a new HDD and replace it ... all covered for free under the warranty.

That's the real catch. After years in a coma, UPnP is getting more popular in NAS that can advertise and stream multimedia content to Digital Multimedia Adapters directly connected to Home Theater gear, whithout the need of a controlling PC/media server.

I recently tested Maxtor's Shared Storage Plus with a 37" Acer LCD TVwith integrated media gateway. Just plug the two devices to the same network (or hook them to the same wireless router) and you get on the TV a list of photos, videos and music you have on the hard drive. You can choose the desired content using the remote control - in a Media Center/MythTV-like interface - and enjoy the show.

This kind of technology is likely to receive a big boost after the release of the next version of the Intel's Viiv platform, which will include some media server capabilities, based on Digital Living Network Alliance and Networked Media Product Requirements. Such features should be available without the need of booting Windows XP. That's what will really make Viiv stand out from normal multimedia PCs.

I'm an Apple fanboy, and love Bonjour, but I think that it needs a big push toward non-PC and consumer electronics devices to compete with UPnP and Viiv. Or maybe Apple should try to join the DLNA and steer it toward Bonjour (unlikely).

One of these babies, maxtor shared storage, the 500gb version, offcourse. It all runs Linux ;) OpenMSS and got nice, high transfeer speeds (in difference to an NSLU or ASUS wl500gx wich uses USB and dont reach more than 1-1.5mbytes/sec).
I would then plug in two decent USB disks, set up LVM and then have the device to store the most used data and all data currently being uploaded at the local drive, and all old and not to frequently accessed data would be stored on the slower USB drives.
Nice and convenient... And, considering the storage capacity, I dont think you get off cheaper if you where to buy a regular fileserver (ordinary computer whit a lot off disks), and it drains less power aswell.

On the other and, if you want to get away really cheap, I would go with an xbox and two ordinare IDE drives at about 250gb each, and a little chip...

This is a very timely topic, and a segment of the market that has repeatedly been identified as a 'hot' by storage manufacturers.

There is a new line of Maxtor RAID products called One-Touch III, which is just about to come out, and very much address the kind of needs you are having. If you look at the hassle of setting up a chassis, enclosure, configuring and installing your raid card and drives, the cooling and ventilation issues that may crop up as someone else already pointed out, as well as the associated electricity costs, these Maxtor devices are really a pretty fantastic value in a really small form factor.

Just to be clear, this is not Network-attached storage, so it would still need something like a Mac Mini or equivalent to get it onto the network, or until they come up with something that is Network Attached Storage as they did with their previous line (The One-Touch II line has some Attached Storage devices, but they are not RAID).

I have had decent luck with their other One-Touch drives, must admit that after several years of pretty intensive use, never had a real failure yet. So although YMMV you may want to look into these newer drives, wish I could tell you more myself, but they are not out until the end of the month.

Z.

(Disclaimer: I do not own stock in Maxtor - now Seagate -, and definitely do not work for either of them; just honest personal experience.)

Bzzzzzt. Not entirely true. See my other post From Maxtor's own website:

Retail products:
ATA/SATA hard drives: 1 year
SCSI hard drives: 5 years
External hard drives: 1 year
Network Storage: 1 year

'Stand-Alone' drives:
Fireball/Diamondmax drives: 3 years
MaxLine drives: 5 years
Atlas SCSI drives: 5 years
MaxLine drives: 5 years
Maxtor Personal Storage 3000LS and PS3100 drives: 90 Days!!!

Maxtor only has a 1 year.

While this is true of some of their drives (primarily the retail boxed sets) many of their drives come with 3-5 year warranties. Your best bet is to check what the manufacturer rates the MTBF for their drive and what warranty accompanies that particular model. In Maxtor's case all you have to do is go to their site and put in the model number of the drive you're thinking of into their search and you should get something like this (original PDF here. All manufacturers will have a similar product sheet or comparison chart. Always check this since sometimes retailers may have incorrect waranty info! You may also want to go as far as to go to their site and see how easy it is to get an RMA from them.

Recently, I had a Quantum Atlas start to act strange. Since Quantum was bought out by Maxtor I went their website for help. The RMA process was mostly painless (involved answering a few questions and downloading and running their HDD checking utility) and inputing the error code back on their form. The only difficulty I had was that the utility that would create the floppy with their SCSIMax SMART diagnostic utility was a windows executable and there was no floppy image on their site. Ultimately I ended up booting to windows *just* to create a floppy. In less than a week I received my replacement Maxtor Atlas (which is a helluva quiter and cooler than my old drive) and I just sent them back the old drive in the same box. As always YMMV.

You appear to have bought their Standalone hard drives.

Of those:
Maxtor Fireball®, DiamondMax have a 3 year.
Maxtor MaXLine have a 5 year
Maxtor branded retail hard drive kits have a 1 year
Maxtor Network Storage products have a 1 yaer

Looks like by far most of their drives have a 1 year warrenty. There is a reason. They are crap drives. If you'll notice, the only lines by maxtor with decent warranties are the ones that they got from Quantom (I've got a number of old quantom fireballs that are still chugging along).

You appear to have bought their Standalone hard drives.

Of those:
Maxtor Fireball®, DiamondMax have a 3 year.
Maxtor MaXLine have a 5 year
Maxtor branded retail hard drive kits have a 1 year
Maxtor Network Storage products have a 1 yaer

Looks like by far most of their drives have a 1 year warrenty. There is a reason. They are crap drives. If you'll notice, the only lines by maxtor with decent warranties are the ones that they got from Quantom (I've got a number of old quantom fireballs that are still chugging along).

I've been looking at the Maxtor Shared Storage which can be had really cheap. 300GB version for $302.

It has 2 extra USB ports on it to hang extra drives or USB printers.

Google search?? So? My hamster can do a google search and come up with something better.
Because I consider Maxtor a major player, and they offer a one year warranty (which would make you, again, wrong).
Newegg also has Maxtor. The point in this thread and your above quote is "Does Maxtor offer a > 1 year warranty or not?"
Answer: YES, you're too caught with yourself to find it but Maxtor does offer it ! Maxtor also offers a one year warranty for retail-buying-non-geek-pedantic-pricks(or trolls?) like you.
HTH

UID's are irrelevant as long as they're available on eBay :)

I mean, really, any idiot can acquire a 5 digit ID.

*looks up*

But yes, SCSI is parallel, yellowstone is lost on the issue. Perhaps he's thinking of the next-gen of SCSI devices, SAS - Serial Attached SCSI?

Inside Akimbo one can find a 733 MHz Celeron, 64 MB of SDRAM, 80 GB hard drive and Windows CE.

Sounds an awful lot like my XBox.. but with a smaller HDD.. and no MS software!

A bit pricier, but you get what you pay for:
External harddrives
(sorry if the link is bogus)

300GB, 16MB cache, 7200RPM, USB 2.0+Firewire external hard drive

1GB is still bigger than 250mb.

Bah!!! 250 GB is bigger than 1GB.

Go! Maxtor MaXLine Plus II 250GB SATA 8MB Cache - (HD-021-MD) .........

(at least not for the next two years)

Stack 60-odd of the wonderful Maxtor OneTouch external 250gig Harddrives (Maxtor propaganda page) and you'll get around 15 TB of extra pr0n and mp3-space. Each has a sweet 8meg cache to boot. So stop whining.

I ran into this at a client I was consulting for. I solved it by using a Maxtor OneTouch USB external hardrive. Don't use this if the machine doesn't have a USB 2.0 port (its just too slow on a V1.1 USB port). I placed a copy of Linux on this drive. I configured the machine for dual-boot and left the NTFS partition as the default. This way, the machine can be given back without any reversal of customizations, other than the config.ini file. I even set up a batch file that would restore the original file.

If you are looking for something a bit more concealed or you don't have USB V2.0, take a look at the Kingston DataPak Portable PC Card Hard Drive

So you mean I can't really get 800 more gigabytes out of my Bigfoot?

Having worked on many bad HDs, I keep this list of links to all the manufacturers HD testing programs:

Maxtor/Quantum
http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/downloads/powerma x.htm

IBM/Hitachi
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm

Seagate
http://www.seagate.com/support/seatools/index.html

Western Digital
http://support.wdc.com/download/#dlgtools

Fujitsu
http://www.fcpa.fujitsu.com/download/hard-drives/

Forget IBM drives, Seagate or Maxtor produce the best quality hard drives

Depending on the make of disk, try running the manufacturer's diagnostic utilities - they may give a better idea of any problems.

IBM http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.ht m
Fujitsu http://www.fujitsu.com/au/support/hdd/warranty/
Maxtor http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/downloads/index.h tm
Seagate http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/index.html
Western Digital http://support.wdc.com/download/index.asp
Samsung http://www.samsung.com/Support/ProductSupport/inde x.htm

• MSI MATX I865PEM2-ILS
• Samsung black combo 52X24X52+16X CD-RW/DVD
• WAG311GE Netgear Wireless .11ABG+ PCI
• Intel P4 2,6GHz 800/512K
• Hauppauge WinTV PVR 350
• MSI GeForce FX5200 TD128 with DVI and TV-OUT
• 512MB PC400 DDRAM
• Maxtor Dmax Plus9 200Gb 7200RPM 8Mb SATA
• Coolermaster ATC 620C-BX1

The reasoning for the different items are as follows:

A similar model of the motherboard got good reviews by Toms Hardware Guide (yes, I know some people in /. hate Tom). The integrated sound on this board was recommended to me by an ALSA developer. It's also got SATA, LAN, USB and Firewire and, as a nice bonus, both coax and optical digital sound outputs.

Samsung...didn't matter much as long as it had DVD and CD-RW capabilities, black front was a nice touch though.

WAG311GE, one of few cards that support A, B and G wireless networking. Supported in Linux by the MadWifi drivers, unfortunately not truly open source, but neither are any other ABG card drivers.

Intel processor, I usually like Athlons but temperature (and thereby cooling requirements) is much more important in this box than speed.

Hauppage, well supported by MythTV and able to do MPEG2 recording and playback in hardware.

MSI GeForce, has VGA, DVI and TV-Out, also fanless and really cheap. Closed drivers but that's kinda hard to avoid.

Maxtor drive, I really wanted a more quiet Seagate but the SATA models were kind of impossible to find in any nearby store for decent prices. Also most stores seemed to have the ones with the least storage capacity.

Coolermaster, the case isn't "designed" to be a HTPC case (such as this one) which means it doesn't have the same silly price tag. It was also the exact same width as my stereo components (well, 3mm wider) and similar color.

Now all I have to do is wait...

Unless they've got some strange units of memory (someone please correct me if this is the case), their memory cache sizes are measured in powers of two but their drive storage sizes are measured in powers of ten.

Here's an example - this is a Maxtor data sheet that shows the details for this drive - they cleverly point out in very small print (I had to go to +4 magnification in xpdf to even read it) that GB = 1 billion bytes, but they make no claim about what MB means. The
front page for the drive doesn't mention it at all. I'm sure Maxtor is representative of all drive manufacturers in this regard.
How could that be? Hmmm.....

Unless they've got some strange units of memory (someone please correct me if this is the case), their memory cache sizes are measured in powers of two but their drive storage sizes are measured in powers of ten.

Here's an example - this is a Maxtor data sheet that shows the details for this drive - they cleverly point out in very small print (I had to go to +4 magnification in xpdf to even read it) that GB = 1 billion bytes, but they make no claim about what MB means. The
front page for the drive doesn't mention it at all. I'm sure Maxtor is representative of all drive manufacturers in this regard.
How could that be? Hmmm.....

If you want a prebuilt unit, I can verify that the Maxtor Personal Storage 5000XT works well. I have used it on several different Macs running OS X. No problems whatsoever.

Using large drives in Firewire enclosures may have been a problem at some point but I can assure you this is no longer the case (no pun intended).

The newer Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 and Plus 9 are really quiet too, in the same league as the Barracudas but somehow having got much less press in the pc silencing community.

The newer Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 and Plus 9 are really quiet too, in the same league as the Barracudas but somehow having got much less press in the pc silencing community.

Maxtor's Powermax
Western Digital's Data Lifeguard Tools (You only need the Diagnostics module. There's also a Windows version farther down.)
Hitachi GS (Including IBM drives) Drive Fitness Test (Also check out SMART Defender, farther down, for a lightweight windows systray icon to monitor all your drive's SMART status.)
Seagate's SeaTools (Or try a direct link to the file to avoid registration.)

If you've got an off-brand drive, you can check the manufacturer website to see if they have one, or just try one of the above, I believe all of them can run at least basic dagnostics on any drive.

SuperMicro has some astonishing cases ( one takes, with their 5-drive backplane-type things, S-ATA, 15 drives .. Stock!! )...

a pair of 3ware S-ATA cards in a dual-Athlon 'board ( cheapest AthlonMP chips you can get, you'd want 'em for unstoppability, rather than for blitz-performance, eh? ... or go for a pair of the slowest, coolest-running, AthlonXP's and short the correct bridges to MP 'em, though the kernel will run as "License Tainted" then... )...

A batch of Maxtor DiamondMax 9 S-ATA drives Model Numbers Table ( plus spares, and check for the prices you want on PriceWatch ), and one could even bolt one onto the side of the chassis ( drill holes for mounting it on, to get the magic 16-drives )

then use RAID-55

3- or 4-drives == 1 RAID5 unit ( within the 3ware card )
2 of those RAID5 units within each 3ware card
4 such units visible to the kernel, which can therefore give you kernel-raid5 on top of the 3ware RAID, so it'd take multiple-drive failure to kill the redundancy of the array.

( yeah, so it'd be a nuisance to have to hot-plug replace the one screwed onto the side-panel, but just arrange that only the other drives fail, right? Simple!
+: )

Be wary of the Enermax P/S's, though, yes they've got an 800w ( or thereabouts ), but I've read that when fully loaded, they don't supply the proper voltages ( Danish review was it? actual tests, they did, but I don't know if they were de-rating for the 'combined' rails that each are rated to a certain current, but their combined rating isn't the sum... all P/S's are done that way... )

Enermax's, though, are as nearly silent as makes-no-difference when loaded to 50%, though, so that's where I want 'em.

Gigabitten Ethernets would make your place cozier, too, rather than all that burningwire stuff....
( though I gather that there are firewire-to-ethernet translation devices 'round... )

PS... that thing-on-my-head ( in me self-portrait ) was supposed to be a Klutz Propeller Beanie, but it seems they don't make one, now, so now it's only a simulation of one, see...

3ware has 8500 series 4, 8 and 12 channel SATA RAID controllers. Maxtor has DiamondMax 9+ SATA drives at 60-200GB. Based on a quick look around the web, they appear to be available now.

The current version of maxblast, version 3 only works if a maxtor drive is installed in the machine.

1)ISO Buster to restore corrupted CD's. Isobuster

3)Restore lost data on hard disks Google and Download.com

If you want to know more about the Serial ATA technology:

Cnet

SATA and ISCSI

Intel Dev Paper

Maxtor White Paper

Serial ATA Working Group

No, ATA-100 can only address 137GB (if the controller lacks LBA)

ATA-133 controllers (maxtor.com) include the LBA (long-block addressing) needed to use the larger drives correctly.

Offtopic, but the latest extension isn't likely to expire anytime soon. When it was clear that 128 GB wasn't enough, Maxtor did the legwork on extending it again.

When you need more than 144 petabytes per drive then they'll change it again. But I suspect it'll be awhile.

...if you subject a standard pc HD to that while fully spinning for an extended period of time, you'll kill the drive pretty fast.

Wrong, for just one example see page 2 Maxtor DiamondMax Plus9
Operating Mechanical Shock: 60G

WARNING: Snide remarks follow.
(1) Doing something for an extended period of time means that you can't possibly be killing anything pretty fast.

(2) only a year of spinning while being moved around
One year of spinning is 8760 hours of recording.
Sounds like of a lot of birthdays & weddings to me.

With needing nearly 4 gigabytes per hour of TV recorded at that rate, a 160 gigabyte HD would only yield 40 hours of recording time, or 10 hours per tuner card.

Writing to a HD at 60 MB/sec means that you're probably not going to be reading from it at the same time to watch something that you have previously recorded. Therefore, you're going to want to break this out into multiple IDE channels, perhaps one drive per channel.

Something seriously has to be asked here -- if you're recording 4 hours of TV per hour, when are you going to watch all the stuff? Even assuming that you're skipping commercials (turning a 30 minute program into a 22 minute program), you're still going to be falling behind at a good clip.

If you're doing that with four machines, 16 hours per hour of realtime, what the hell are you going to do with all the data? I think the editor has been trolled with this article.

250 gigs my butt. Maxtor has a drive that holds 300 gigabytes, the MaXLine II. I haven't a clue what they charge, but I'll bet it aint't cheap. By the way, that property you're talking about also applies to CPUs. They have a certain point where the bang-for-buck ratio heads down the toilet as well.

It's only one year now :) For Maxtor. For Seagate. I'm not gonna list more. You can look for them yourself, but I think you get the point. :)

1. Buy several of these Maxtor Personal Storage 5000XT.
2. Install a firewire or USB 2.0 card in your machine.
3. Install the Retrospect Software.
4. Push the button to run the backup
5. ?????
6. Profit!

These drives are somewhat expensive(~$400), but are hot swappable and you can easily take them offsite.

I work in a school, and our main backups are done onto firewire drives that are rotated throughout the district. These drives are then replaced every ~1-2 years.

Maxtor Atlas 15k RPM SCSI drive

Maxtor DiamondMax 7200 RPM IDE drive

Maxtor Atlas 15k RPM SCSI drive

Maxtor DiamondMax 7200 RPM IDE drive

Not all IDE drives are shipping with a 1 year warranty.

Maxtor's Enterprise Class IDE Drives for example still cary a 3 year warranty.

Is IDE appropriate for the desktop? absolutely.

Will retards continue using IDE in applications where SCSI is far more appropriate? definitely.

Does your post make any fucking sense at all? nope.

Is IDE appropriate for the desktop? absolutely.

Will retards continue using IDE in applications where SCSI is far more appropriate? definitely.

Does your post make any fucking sense at all? nope.

Since the site is slashdotted, here are further links about Serial ATA:

Cnet

SATA and ISCSI

Intel Dev Paper

Maxtor White Paper

Seagate

Western Digital

Maxtor

Quantum