Domain: migrationpolicy.org
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Re:Immigration peak [Re:Buy American or else!]
Really? What am I missing in this chart?
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Re:I don't get it...
...what has happened so fundamentally in our country (US) where people don't care about actual citizenship, and protecting our borders?
Better update the Statue of Liberty then "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" needs to be replaces with "Fuck You, I got mine, go home brownies".
... and replace the torch with a middle finger. Once aspect of immigration, largely ignored in the debate, is that while in 2013 Central/South America make up about 70% of the group, Asians 15% and Europe / Canada / Africa / etc. the rest. If people started screaming about the 30% as well the argument and dynamics would change.
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Re:The latest 5 year plan from the Cali politburo
Yup, California and the civilized states do export our garbage to the third world. China was our dump for outdated electronics, Texas is the dump for the those who are not fit to receive an education or thrive in intellectual/high-skilled workforce.
Oh that is why you are importing a population that 50% hasn't achieved a high school degree ?
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Re:Classic IBM.
I'm not racist and I don't see the problem with this. If someone robs a bank and is described as dark skinned should one then be forbidden to include that as a search criteria? Should people that are obviously not fitting the profile of the suspect still be harassed as you can't enter some type of information into the system?
Criticize racial biases all you want but don't go around bullshitting.
This can be a problem if it's generalized. Let's say that 77% of illegal immigrants in the US are from Latin America (71% from Mexico or Central America; 6% from South America). Does that mean that Latinos should face more scrutiny? NO because that is racial profiling, and most Latinos in the US are here legally. The difference between this scenario and what IBM is doing is paramount: IBM is helping to look for individual suspects whereas the other is just a drag net.
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Re:Sounds about right
Illegal immigrants — the overwhelmingly vast majority of them from South America...
This page lists all of South America at 6%. Mexico is 56%, which certainly isn't an "overwhelmingly vast majority", and Central America at 15%.
...have killed far more Americans over the years, than the 3000 killed on the day of 9/11.
Is this the part of the article you're talking about? If so, I've highlighted a couple key points regarding the number.
In the aggregate, Trump said, immigrants in the country illegally are responsible for tens of thousands of crimes. He pointed to a 2011 study by the Government Accountability Office which estimated undocumented immigrants had committed some 25,000 homicides, 42,000 robberies and nearly 70,000 sex offenses. That estimate was extrapolated from a survey of 1,000 undocumented immigrants held in state and federal prisons. It offered no time frame in which the crimes might have been committed and no basis for comparison with the native-born population.
The article also cites a study that says that illegal immigrants in Texas were less likely to be convicted of homicide, sexual assault, or larceny than native citizens.
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Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats
Plus, they're not eligible for welfare anyway.
That's false. As soon as people seeking asylum in the United States are accepted as refugees they are eligible for public assistance just like any other person, including cash welfare, food assistance, and health coverage. Source.
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Re:make your choice
Um... not only are immigrants a relatively small part of the population, but they are overwhelmingly working age, which means they contribute in taxes more than they take away in services. They make UBI more attainable, not less.
First off you use the phrase immigrants, which ignores the vast distinction between legal and illegal immigration. This is very disingenuous. It is well known that legal immigrants are more likely to be skilled labor while illegal immigrants are almost always unskilled labor. Skilled labor can be a win for the US while unskilled labor is always a loss. The loss on illegal immigration is to the tune of $116 billion annually. Every year. The crime rate is higher than average for illegal immigrants, especially for drunk driving deaths. For those who think that all illegal immigrants just want a better life, tell that to these US citizens who were killed by illegals: http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial...
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Re:make your choice
Um... not only are immigrants a relatively small part of the population, but they are overwhelmingly working age, which means they contribute in taxes more than they take away in services. They make UBI more attainable, not less.
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Re:Come to Europe...
Actually, it has exactly the immigration policy I think it has.
The article you linked to is not about immigration policy. It is a flame-bait piece railing against supposed rampant illegal immigration and decrying how some Canadian cities are declaring themselves "Sanctuary Cities", which in the author's opinion is apparently sending Canada down the toilet. But, even so, that article briefly mentions how "Our rules are tough but fair, they’re applied evenly and they focus on bringing the best people to Canada and benefiting all Canadians."
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Re:Visa != Immigrant [Re:It's About Pay: Outsourci
Most visa workers are not immigrants. Some may become immigrants, sure, but they are two different things.
In January 2010 there were 12.6 million permanent visa (green card) holders in the US. (source) In 2013 there were about 1.4 million temporary visa holders working in the US. (source)
While not all green card holders are working, it is clear that most visa workers are immigrants. Probably around 80-90%. All temporary visa holders are not immigrants, by definition, but that is clearly not what you meant since you used the word "most". Then again I don't think you knew what you meant, or understand the actual definitions of these terms.
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Re:What FREEDOM means
Apparently, the US has enough to offer that many wealthy leave China and open up "Chinese" restraunts all over, as well as the birth tourism of the welathy Chinese.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
But I guess you know more than all those Chinese looking for a better life in the US.
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Re:This works for me
What occurs in the media and from the quoted post is conflating illegal immigration with legal. The United States grants more people entry than any other country. Naturalization trends of the last 30 years. Permanent Immigrants last 10 years which shows anywhere from 2-5 times what the next country, Germany, permits. Despite what that the media portrays and your sympathies with respect to another post the US welcomes people coming in legally.
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College enrollment is artificially raised
by increases in foreign students. Many of these aren't actually students. They're here working full time jobs and with companies using student visas an paid internships as backdoors to get around visa limitations.
Moreover, college has a 60 % drop out rate (Citation). Kids can make it through the first year or two by working full time, borrowing money and hitting up mom or dad (that's an 'or' for most of them, bad economies break families up). But not a lot of them can keep up with that. Most college counselors will tell you to take a hike if they find out you're working even part time after year two. There's not enough spots in the 300+ level courses. They don't want to spend time on a kid they know isn't going to make it, and nobody wants to spend their tax dollars on those lazy little buggers anyway.
The education system isn't failing these kids. It's just taking a measure of how society as a whole abandoned them to their (very miserable) fate. It was always like this. There was no 'golden age' where this wasn't the reality. The difference is we're testing these kids now up through year 2 college and as a result we can not longer pretend that we as a society are not failing them... -
Re:Europe rocks over USA, China and Russia
More like 1mil+ legal immigrants per year:
http://www.migrationpolicy.org...
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Re:Not the real problem
Especially because 93% of illegal immigrants are adults.
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Re:Correlation is not causation
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Re:Correlation is not causation
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Re:We have a bigger problem...
Those numbers are how many immigrants are currently here, not how many are entering each year. That number only shrinks if lots of people decide to leave, not simply not enter.
A report from Homeland Security shows a different story:
http://www.migrationpolicy.org/pubs/FS13_immigrati on_US_2006.pdf -
The Patriot Act, Homeland Security, and th FOIA
Just like the original poo-poo'd reports on torture in Iraq, this story is just the tip of the iceberg.
The postings here interested me in looking around for more info.
Unfortunately, it led to this horrendous rant!
In similar news . . . Photographer arrested for taking pictures of vice president's hotel
The Patriot act, Secret Courts and Homeland Security
It only gets worse. The new Patriot Act extension recomendations by Ashcroft includes:From
CNN:
"A draft of the new domestic security bill Ashcroft is seeking, published by a nonprofit government watchdog group in February, indicates that among other things, it would prohibit disclosure of information regarding people detained as terrorist suspects and prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from distributing "worst-case scenario" information to the public about a nearby private company's use of chemicals.
In addition, the measure would create a DNA database of "suspected terrorists;" force suspects to prove why they should be released on bail, rather than have the prosecution prove why they should be held; and allow the deportation of U.S. citizens who become members of or help terrorist groups."The Patriot act, linked with the Homeland Security Act, has gutted the Freedom of Information Act.
From
Wired News Dec. 02, 2002
"One of the most egregious and potentially dangerous of these travesties is the Homeland Security Act's creation of new and very broad exemptions from the Freedom of Information Act. Businesses now have a new way to evade liability for safety violations, hazards to consumers and other abuses. They need merely report the information about their behavior -- even totally unclassified activities -- to the federal government, and claim it's related to homeland security. In the parlance of the Homeland Security Act, they declare the data to be "CII," or Critical Infrastructure Information."In other News from the press: everything is classified now, and won't be released anytime soon. (See "Amendment To Executive Order No. 12958")
How much is this being used now?Local News
"Federal agents sought 1,727 warrants from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for electronic eavesdropping and physical searches last year, according to a Justice Department filing with Congress. Just four applications were rejected, and two of those were later revised and approved. The number of so-called FISA warrants jumped by 500 from 2002 and has almost doubled since 2001, when 934 applications were approved."
"By comparison, there were 1,442 wiretap petitions in federal and state courts for crimes like drugs and racketeering, according to a separate report from the Administrative Office of U.S. Courts."How much abuse has been identified?
Inspector general's report on Patriot act abuses:
( They *only* found 34 *credible* cases in the 272 complaints. But please remember, it's all secret and there is no public oversight.)
The ACLU issued a report on how the Patriot Act is actually being used. Link Here.
The Migration Policy Institute says:
'Moreover, among those detained (and of the 1,200, the MPI could only identify a third) were "persistent violations of due p