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Re:cookies?
Do not despair! There is an extension to fix this serious problem. Soon your cookies will be delicious once more.
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What else should be installed on a windows machine
http://clamwin.sourceforge.net/Clamwin
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/7 Zip, if their version of windows doesn't already have built-in ZIP support.
http://www.mozilla.org/Mozilla or FireFox, depending on their and/or my mood.
And yes, it's occasionally burnt to optical media, or thrown on USB thumb drive for my parents only have dial-up.
Even though they have a Mac, they have just as much trouble with it as most people have with windows.
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Re:Surely?
Slackware, you insensitive clod!
;-)
Actually on a serious note, I install (for my mother, family and friends)...
7-zip
gs / gsview
Firefox / Thunderbird
AVG
WinPT
Eraser
OpenOffice
Gimp (depending on the family member or friend)
Gaim
FileZilla
Amaya (only because bluefish is not available on win32 yet)
RealVNC
VIM
irFanview
Azureus (depending on the family member or friend)
Daemon Tools (depending on the family member or friend) -
Re:Surely?
Slackware, you insensitive clod!
;-)
Actually on a serious note, I install (for my mother, family and friends)...
7-zip
gs / gsview
Firefox / Thunderbird
AVG
WinPT
Eraser
OpenOffice
Gimp (depending on the family member or friend)
Gaim
FileZilla
Amaya (only because bluefish is not available on win32 yet)
RealVNC
VIM
irFanview
Azureus (depending on the family member or friend)
Daemon Tools (depending on the family member or friend) -
Dual boot with FreeBSD, works like a charm
A lot of my family members and friends use Microsoft Windows and over the years I must have spent months fixing their systems myself or telling them on the phone what to do. I am tired as hell of playing the pro bono Microsoft support tech and I no longer offer any kind of support for anything Microsoft related to anyone. Period. My immediate family members now all have a dual boot system with their favorite version of Microsoft Windows and FreeBSD 4 with the following free software:
Keep in mind that all of the software above also has versions that run on Windows, so there is no need to use one application under Windows and another under FreeBSD. Great integration, no confusion, easier transition.
The raw Windows partition is backed up in an image file created with dd, so if there's any Windows related trouble they can't fix on their own they just boot the special FreeBSD floppy which employs a simple shell script (using dialog) to let them backup or restore the primary partition image. If you need something more complex like Norton Ghost then I suggest you use the absolutely free and cool replacement called PartImage.
If they have any trouble while using FreeBSD they just click a special icon named "Call for help" which starts a shell script that sends a number of specially crafted packets to my computer's static IP, where such packets are logged in a special file which I see on my desktop (tail -f), so if I'm available I can log into their system via ssh within minutes of any sign of trouble and they do not even have to bother to email me, let alone use the phone to call me. It works like a charm.
I feel sorry for the people who buy Microsoft Windows and then call me to help them out when things go wrong, but I just can't afford to waste my life fixing what should not have been broken in the first place. Enough is enough.
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Thunderbird
Who wants to bet he is using thunderbird. I never get any SPAM now that i have it.
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[OT] Slashdot rendering fix for Firefox 1.0
There is an extension that has a workaround for Firefox's rendering issue (Bug 217527) with
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You're right. Netscape is dead.
Now that I think of it... wasn't it Netscape the one that crashed on massively nested tables? Had very slow rendering? Poor CSS support?
I still remember the dark times of hand-coding for NS4.x, and using javascript browser-sniffers *shudders*.
But that time's over. The king is dead.
Long live the King! -
Re:Questions
For those of you who want to know, the addblock and flashblock are extensions you need to install, they are not part of Firefox by default.
Flashblock
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
Addblock
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Re:Netscape backed by firefox??The Mozilla project has been saying for some time that they intend to replace the existing Mozilla suite with a bundle of stand-alone applications, including Firefox, Thunderbird, Sunbird, and I'm guessing a HTML editor and chat program (which I'm not aware of there currently being stand-alone Mozilla apps for these).
So now, the plan seems to be to keep on with the old suite while all the components of the new suite reach 1.0, then continue to maintain it for hold-back users, but to push the Firefox/Thunderbird/whatever combo as the real product of the Mozilla Foundation.
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Why bother?
Why not just get firefox itself??!? The AOL-ized Netscape is just going to be a advertisement festival that I'd really rather just skip altogether.
Is AOL that delusioned, that they believe they will be able to provide any real value on top of what Firefox already brings? I imagine that they will repackage it and put it on all their mass-mailed CDs, which is a good thing overall if it gets people to use it, but who knows what spyware and adware AOL will strap onto this.
This is just another example that AOL/Netscape isn't actually going to innovate something; they just splash a new coat of paint and call it their own. That's why Netscape lost the browser wars. Thankfully its corpse was used to grow the seeds of Mozilla. -
Netscape Revived AOL Browser Available Soon...
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Re:Firefox needs the ability to block Flashplayer
Get Adblock
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Re:the bearer of bad news
*cough* SessionSaver and Undoclosetab provide those features you mention for Firefox.
However, I'd like to know if Opera provides features similar to Download Sort or FoxyTunes. -
Re:OT
This is a well documented bug and is apparantly fixed in the final version of Firefox. (Copy & Paste link - Bugzilla doesn't like Slashdot, either!) If you're still experiencing this problem, I suggest you look into optimized Moox builds, as he has implemented a fix that has been working great for me. Also, there is an extension that apparantly fixes the problem, as well.
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Re:Copy Bug?
Bug 220900 has been around for awhile. I have encountered it every install of firefox since 0.6 on various machines, both windows and linux.
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Re:Alias Sketchbook Pro
The page, for me, calls window.resizeTo(630,955). I don't know if any screen size detection is being done... either way that's pretty retarded.
I encourage you to move to a browser that doesn't permit this kind of crap. Your other option is to look for an option in your current browser that prevents resizing or disable scripting completely (probably impractical). Firefox provides the option to prevent scripts from resizing your browser in:
[Edit][Preferences][Web Features][Advanced...]"Move or resize existing windows"[] <- uncheck
HTH
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Re:Probably not...
Mouse gestures, automatic numerical forward/back and image zoom, popup blocking, skinning, tabbed browsing and UA spoofing.
Ok, so I liked Opera when I used it for a while. But firefox kicks its butt. I prefered FF myself because there were no ads (although you can add them if you want them)
But all of these features are available as FF extensions... even adding google ads to your browser.
I don't want to sound like a zelot, but FF is cheaper, ad free and does all that plus some. Email client? IRC client? That's what Thunderbird/Chatzilla/Mozilla suite are for.
It's your money, but I know where I'll be putting mine. Straight back in my wallet.
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Re:Inaccuracy in article?
Talking of asymmetric and symmetric key sizes, there have been many discussions on the theoretical cracking of (1024 bits) RSA.
See http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interes ting-people/200204/msg00109.html
(Also from this link)
NIST says: "For data that needs to be protected longer [than 2015], the key size should be at least 2048 bits." (Otherwise they recommend that the RSA keysize be at least 1024 bits)
RSA also says: "..high-value organization [RSA] keys should be at least 2048 bits"
So you would think anyone who knows about security would want to know the asymmetric key size as well as the symmetric key size of the secure web site they're visiting.
Not so. In Mozilla/Firefox you can see at a glance the symmetric key size sure, but to find out the asymmetric key size you have to find the actual key and calculate it yourself. In Mozilla you can reject ciphers based on symmetric encryption method and hash method but not whether they have low asymmetric (RSA) keys. It is theoretically possible for a "secure" website to use an obscenely low RSA key, let's say 72 bits but use a 256 bit AES symmetric cipher. Mozilla/Firefox will most likely proudly say that the site uses "high grade" security anyway!
You would think this would be a priority for Mozilla developers, right? Wrong.
This has been in Bugzilla for years, with numerous duplicates yet no-one is working on it.
See: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78837
Also see: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11293626~mo de=flat -
Re:does it still suck to install and configure?
I'm not sure, I've never installed Solaris 10 from CD media
Neither have I actually, I burned the images 3 times and couldn't get it installed successfully from them. I ended up copying the contents of all 3 software cd's to my Linux box, and installing over NFS from that.
What problems did you have? I regularly use libtool on Solaris, and have not had problems. Libtool, despite its complexity (as with all the auto* GNU build system tools) when things go wrong, does a good job 99% of the time.
Mostly problems with GNU binutils -vs- Sun's linker. Basically, any time shared libraries are involved I'd get something like this. Especially when using libtool. I recall this being the cause of much swearing, and fist shaking. -
Re:Broken sound
I have pretty much the same system as you.
- Dell 8200
- NVidia 5700 LE
- Santa Cruz Audio
- Yamaha DB-XG50 synthesizer
- Parallel zip drive
- Epson Stylus Color 880
Pretty much everything worked out of the box for me on going from Fedora Core 2 to Fedora Core 3. The only breakage were things I expected to break.
- NTFS broke (and hung boot) until I upgraded the NTFS rpm
- Used the old NV driver until I built the NVidia driver
- Yamaha daughterboard doesn't work - a known ALSA issue
From an install point of view, some other software broke that in retrospect should have. I had to recompile my version of PHP since libcurl was upgraded. I had to recompile mod_perl-1.99.17 for my version of Apache. I had to move all of the GNU Java out of the way so that my Java applications would run. The GUI parts of mono broke since Gnome has been upgraded. And finally, mysql broke because Fedora Core 3 reinstalled the last version of mysql supplied by Redhat.
There are a lot of good things about the new release. Probably the most important from my viewpoint is that switching between KDE and Gnome no longer borks the menus. I think Gnome has fimally moved over to the free desktop specifications. While not perfect, I can now switch between desktops without too much menu breakage. I haven't tried editing the Gnome menu yet.
Most of the issues involved have to do with third party packages and not the Fedora Core 3 core. I build my own Apache. I install a lot of my own Perl packages. I install Java directly from Sun. The NVidia mess (not using udev) has been noted, and is pretty easy to fix.
Evolution 2.0.x is a mess. It's ugly, offers no summary view, no RSS, and no weather. In short, there's no reason to use it over any other mail client unless you have to go against an Exchange server. The lack of a summary view is particularly annoying in that I no longer can see at a glance what tasks I have, what the temperature is, how many mail messages I have not read, and of course what new stuff has been posted on Slashdot.
Fortuneately there are Firefox extentions that give me the RSS feeds and weather. Habari Xenu does the RSS feeds, and WeatherFox does the weather. Check out both from Firefox Extensions
One last nit. I've noticed that running Gnome applications under KDE carries my old Gnome wallpaper along with it. It's not visible in KDE, but when I log out the old wallpaper flashes on the screen. I wonder how much memory that costs me.
In short, a nice release, pretty painless upgrade, and a comfortable distribution of linux.
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Re:From an Opera user's perspective
I've been an Opera user since Netscape came out with the first release of Communicator. Communicator blew even worse than IE, and Opera was new, stable and beautiful.
When Mozilla started releasing non-Netscape browsers, with each new major release I tried it out. It never came close to the then current version of Opera I was using. I tried Firewhatever back at version 0.4 when I first heard of it, and again at 0.7 and it still couldn't compete, even with the extensions available at the time.
I am now using Firefox 1.0 on all of my machines as my main browser. Admittedly it is slower than Opera on rendering, but usually not noticably and never annoyingly so. It also takes about 30 minutes to an hour dredging through the extensions at Texturizer and Mozilla on initial installation, but in the end it nearly duplicates everything in Opera, while providing some customization features that Opera does not.
In the end I switched between Opera 7.54 and Firefox 1.0PR for about a week before finally deciding I liked Firefox as well/better and made the switch.
Firefox Pros:
Open Source - Support the community if you feel that is an important goal.
Extensions - these are a fantastic idea and lead to some much better and more customizable implementations than Opera's monolithic structure.
Some extensions that provide functionality not available (natively) in Opera:
Adblock - It just rocks! Usually, I don't mind ads on pages, I figure it helps the website pay the bills to bring the information to me for free, but flashing, animated, annoying ads really tick me off. With Opera I would just keep a mental list of websites not to go back to. With Firefox, I just block the ad server.
Linkification - For all those idiot web authors that can't figure out the "a" tag.
Context Highlight - Woot! Have you ever used Goolge cache, just to get the words you were looking for highlighted on a long page of text? This extension is everything you ever wanted.
DICT - highlight a word and get a pop-up window with the definition. DictionarySearch if you prefer a new Tab rather than a pop-up. Both highly configurable.
In Browser handling for BugMeNot, tinyurl, and RSS feeds.
Firefox Cons:
Extensions - just like sourceforge, freeware websites, etc., anybody and everybody can load their own homegrown POS and give it a glowing description. You can download what is most popular, but actually figuring out what you want and what the best extension to meet your goals will be is a real pain. In Opera mouse gestures just work. In Firefox there are at least five different extensions that provide mouse gesture functionality, all of them slightly different, some of them highly annyoing. God help you if you load two extensions both trying to do the same thing (i.e. some of the tab browsing extensions). Also new releases of FF may break your old extensions, causing minor havoc until the extension writer updates their portion of the code.
Opera Pros:
It just works - One of the most important factors generally to me. I'll spend a month tinkering with something I'm interested in, but if I don't want to tinker with something I want it to work out of the box.
Fast - Opera renders pages somewhat faster than Firefox. Opera default loads into memory slower than FF default, but FF takes longer once you add all the extensions to get similar functionality.
Support - Opera has professional, intelligent support that can help you deal with any problems. Firefox support is OK for the default, although you are still likely to get an RTFM or flame on some of the support boards, and support for extensions ranges from very good support by caring authors that really want to make their extension better/ to STFU you $*&! luzer if you don't like how I programmed it write one yourself/ to non-existant.
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Re:Firefox is the suxx0rz
Perhaps you should try http://update.mozilla.org/. That's a start if you want customization. Extensions allow for unlimited functionality when you want it or for a very fast and slim browser when you don't. Via editing and commenting a few lines of text, I built a kiosk enviroment for Firefox for the lan center I work at. Can this be done with Opera?
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Re:Whats Opera?
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Re:Misleading
Not for long if Minimo has anything to say about it.
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Increasing Firefox page rendering
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Increasing Firefox page rendering
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Some Adblock info...
If anyone is interested, Adblock can be downloaded from the Adblock homepage or from update.mozilla.org
The -IMHO- best filter to use:
Get it here. Scroll down the page to get the latest version. You can save the textfile and import it from the Adblock dialog (Menu: Tools / Adblock / Preferences ).Way better than IE or Opera or a HOSTS file! Believe me!
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Minimo
Minimo is Mozilla's answer to the PDA & embedded device market. Now that Firefox 1.0 is out, I hope the developers allot more time and effort to it.
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Re:Best CSS support?
The problem isn't
:before/after in that case, it's counter-* support. There's a bugzilla bug if you're curious about the progress. -
Re:Still an Opera user...
What you need is the ColorZilla extension -- it's primary an eyedropper tool, but also has full-page zooming from 20% to 1000%.
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Yeah, but then you block the obnoxious adsYahoo ads aren't in my face because I block all of their ads. It's very easy to do it. AdBlock for Firefox works really well. There are many ad blockers for IE as well.
Gmail ads can't be blocked as easily because they're part of the page. That's okay though because they're relevant and not annoying.
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Yeah, but then you block the obnoxious adsYahoo ads aren't in my face because I block all of their ads. It's very easy to do it. AdBlock for Firefox works really well. There are many ad blockers for IE as well.
Gmail ads can't be blocked as easily because they're part of the page. That's okay though because they're relevant and not annoying.
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If you must run unpatched and connected...
...then carefully remove as much Microsoft software from your machine as possible.
Start with MSIE and MS Outlook, then MS-Office (replace them with FireFox, ThunderBird and OpenOffice, respectively). Really dig in and make sure every trace of them has been removed, don't stop at believing what the MS uninstaller tells you about MS Outlook.
Don't offer any shares, even to the LAN (get people to dump stuff elsewhere on the LAN and you pick it up from there), connect to the minimum number of shares (zero if possible) and for the shortest reasonable time.
Run a good firewall.
Pray a lot.
One more option: if you have a modern Linux box around, throw LogicWave at WINE on that and see how far it gets. If it doesn't work outright, maybe you can hack up an interface to the actual analyser in WINE. That'd be a lot of effort for one workstation, but if you have 20 or so it might be worthwhile. -
If you must run unpatched and connected...
...then carefully remove as much Microsoft software from your machine as possible.
Start with MSIE and MS Outlook, then MS-Office (replace them with FireFox, ThunderBird and OpenOffice, respectively). Really dig in and make sure every trace of them has been removed, don't stop at believing what the MS uninstaller tells you about MS Outlook.
Don't offer any shares, even to the LAN (get people to dump stuff elsewhere on the LAN and you pick it up from there), connect to the minimum number of shares (zero if possible) and for the shortest reasonable time.
Run a good firewall.
Pray a lot.
One more option: if you have a modern Linux box around, throw LogicWave at WINE on that and see how far it gets. If it doesn't work outright, maybe you can hack up an interface to the actual analyser in WINE. That'd be a lot of effort for one workstation, but if you have 20 or so it might be worthwhile. -
And then Steve Jobs steps up to the microphone
Maybe Sony execs got wind of one of Steve's planned versions of the iPod
Use Firefox or die! :] -
Internet Explorer Again?
from the article:
"By exploiting all vulnerabilities discovered in SP2 by Finjan, attackers can silently and remotely take over an SP2 machine when the user simply browses a Web page,"
gee... why am i not surprised that Internet Explorer once again introduces huge security problems?
in the meantime, a patch can be downloaded here
allthough i must admit... SP2 has had a good run... most of the recent security problems in XP/IE were non-issues in SP2. Too bad it couldn't last longer. -
Install firefox... then install this:
Bookmark Syncronizer
Works with ftp and http(s) WebDAV. Toodles. -
Changing cache path
* Changing the temporary cache path?
As it happens, I was just looking for this option yesterday with someone who wanted his cache in
/tmp instead of in ~, which seems like a perfectly valid thing to want to do. Google knew what to do... -
Re:Clients w/ Label support?
Does anyone know of webmail/local clients that can do labels like gmail does? To me, that's the slickest thing about gmail, and i'd kill a man for that feature in thunderbird
Have you tried the latest Thunderbird? 0.9 was released about a week ago and claims to have something like that.
(If that is what you want, please don't feel the need to kill anybody -- just donate to the Mozilla Foundation.
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Re:Open Source cough expert cough for hire.
Well, anything's got to be better than Mork.
At least with a bad XML file I've got the option of using xsl tools to transform it., if i want to access Mozilla history i have to spend a week of reverse engenering, head scratching, fising bugs in my parser before putting some more foul language taegeted at the author in my comments.
take a look at xmlstarlet, using it and xml configuration files you can get your config scripts down by 50%, you can write an XSD and do xml val xsdfile xml and it will tell you what errors you've got in the configuration file etc..
Even Microsoft got shot of the [ini] style config files.
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Re:The real reason it's not a threat
The best idea is to fool the users. Keep the E icon for Internet Explorer, but have it point to the Firefox executable. That's idiot-proofing.
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One major weakness of Firefox
One major weakness I've found for Firefox (and one that ticks me off to no end) is that there is no way for Firefox to load a local image.
I've actually offered a US $1000 bounty for anybody who can fix this and incorporate it into the main code base. See Link Here.
One thing that kills me about this is I spent 6-9 months developing software to work on MSIE and Mozilla. Mozilla would be a very small portion of my client base but I wanted to help promote open source. But since they made this change that disallows you from loading local images, all this work is gone to waste.
Anyways, I guess there are two things:
1. The fact that I developed on a 1.2 browser and the newer versions were NOT backward compatible. This sucks big ass. Imagine investing the time, money and effort on this and have it wasted. I know you could tell me I should have upgraded the browser but the point was that you always need to support the older browsers. I never even suspected that the newer browsers would purposely break something that worked in the older ones.
2. It's not a security issue. What damage can be done by loading an image that is on your computer. The most I could steal (info wise) is the width/height of that image and the fact that that image exists.
3. I wonder how my commercial incentive (the reward) plays out in an open source world. People are either going to be happy or hate it I presume. Either way, if you solve it and get it introduced into the release version, you get $1000.
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look here
no idea running on windows, but on linux with the mozilla suite browser they have those sort of options. You can pick your cache folder, manage images, manage cookies, etc. If you hit a link that starts to download something (an e-vile
.exe for example), it pops up a dialog and asks you want to do with it. There are a ton of other options available that aren't apparent on the menu either. An easy one is up in the address bar, type
about:config --then hit enter
lotsa stuff there
's'more for ya
command line arguments
mozilla tips web site
--like I said, I'm neither a windows nor a FF guy, I use linux and the moz suite, but perhaps there's something there you can use
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Re:Google needs your cookie badlyYou can still save those settings but google refuses to use them when you block their cookie. In my case I get 10 search results although I like to receive 100.
Create a keyword bookmark with the URL
http://www.google.com/search?q=%s&num=100
Give it the keyword 100, then type 100 search_term in the address bar to use it.
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Re:Aren't all lefties terrorists?
What colour alert level is the US on this week?
If you were using Firefox and this extention: https://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?application=firefox&id=352&vid=1084, you wouldn't need to ask that question. -
Re:FIX THE F***ING SLASHDOT BUG!
Bug ID 217527 (copy the URL and paste it into a new window to visit), explains the bug. I also have experienced it very often in both their Windows and Linux builds.
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Re:Java/Javascript On A Per Site Blocking
Mozilla / Firefox already has that ability. It's called Configurable Security Policies (CAPS) http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/componen
t s/ConfigPolicy.html
The main reason many people don't know about it is that designing the GUI to manage CAPS is a pain, so you have to dig around in js prefs to do it.
Regards,
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Re:CNN Story
1. Download Mozilla.
2. Find the mozctl.dll file.
3. Register as ActiveX control.
4. Profit!!!
More Info:
http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm
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Re:Two reasons I don't use Firefox.
Right click (on toolbar)>Customize>From the sheet, drag the "New Tab" button to an empty space on the toolbar. Viola!
Note, that this only allows you to have a New Tab button on the TOOLbar (not the TABbar), if you *must* have the New Tab button on the TABbar, the extension you want is called "Basics" and is available HERE.