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I did like you said, and looked up on Google how to insert a link.

You start out like this:

<a href="

http://www.google.com/search?q=orrin+hatch+bills

">

Orrin Hatch Bills on Google

</A>

Orrin Hatch Bills on Google

I heard that there was even a tool for browsers to help with things like this.

In summary: u g0t pwned.

Very few of my Outlook-using clients stay wistful for long after being introduced to Thunderbird. If you use FireFox and Thunderbird in place of Mozilla, you can be a little more selective about who gets what.

Also, I recommend throwing OOo into the mix, set to default to MS file formats. That way when the Revolution comes, changing will be less painful. All of this, you can put on a CD (including Mac versions) and send home with students, admonishing them "Go forth, and install as many of these as you like!"

We test using the following on web apps:

• Target browsers for intranet apps (even though we use standards as much as practically possible)
• W3C validators for HTML, CSS, and Links
• Validators within WebSphere Studio (Java, JSP, HTML), HomeSite (HTML) and TopStyle (CSS)
• JavaScript Console and Debugger in Mozilla/Firefox
• JUnit
• Cactus
• People. The users. The project owners. Us. Other web developers on e-mail lists.

• We aren't currently using an automated tool to test the front-end flow, because we haven't found any good, easy-to-use, and cheap tools that support a modern version of DOM/JavaScript usage. If you know of something that you like and works, I'd love to know about it. I've tried httpUnit, but had trouble setting it up and it didn't support all the DOM methods we were using at the time.

We test using the following on web apps:

• Target browsers for intranet apps (even though we use standards as much as practically possible)
• W3C validators for HTML, CSS, and Links
• Validators within WebSphere Studio (Java, JSP, HTML), HomeSite (HTML) and TopStyle (CSS)
• JavaScript Console and Debugger in Mozilla/Firefox
• JUnit
• Cactus
• People. The users. The project owners. Us. Other web developers on e-mail lists.

• We aren't currently using an automated tool to test the front-end flow, because we haven't found any good, easy-to-use, and cheap tools that support a modern version of DOM/JavaScript usage. If you know of something that you like and works, I'd love to know about it. I've tried httpUnit, but had trouble setting it up and it didn't support all the DOM methods we were using at the time.

I'm not sure what you mean by "XML parsing (last time I checked SVG couldn't do that in its authoring tool)"--what is the SVG authoring tool? Sodipodi or such?

The authoring tool--if that means editor--what I use is a text editor--in jEdit, for example, with the dandy XML plug-ins installed (thank y'all who work on all that), the SVG gets parsed & validated against the DTD, keeps things clean--did you mean something else by "XML parsing"?

Your other two points are clear, & largely accurate.

For video--& if you're using Flash as the comparison, I guess you mean synchronized sound and animation--that isn't really part of the intention of SVG's design. For that, look critically to SMIL.

Browser support on the web--aiiee--you got that right, apart from Amaya. Surprised me, how excited I got when Brendan Eich declared native SVG support a priority. Come on, Cairo, come on, come on.

I agree. I don't see why my everything-including-the-kitchen-sink install of Fedora Core 2 doesn't have an SVG viewer installed by default for Mozilla, even though one seems to exist. Is this just a fedora thing, or do all distributions not include an SVG viewer? Is there some fundamental reason for this (existing viewers are unstable, patent issues), or is it just that not enough users are clammoring for it? It seems like a major distribution could give SVG adoption a much needed boost by including it.

-jim

Pop-ups and pop-unders can be easily cured by Mozilla or other popup blockers without having to give up javascript. Java can be turned on and off easily via a preference pane.

But what about Flash? For the users who hate 90% of Flash content (ads) but are very interested in 10% of it (for example, New York Times multimedia presentations), there is no easy solution. No preference pane that allows you to turn it on and off quickly. Luckily the Mozilla's flashblock can take care of this problem, but IE users are stuck with tons of undesired content.

Mozilla Calendar Project (FAQ about Sunbird vs Mozilla Calendar)

I couldn't find out if it was going to eventually be rolled into the Mozilla application suite or not, but there is a download for those using Mozilla 1.7

(posted A/C to avoid karma whoring)

Mozilla Calendar Project (FAQ about Sunbird vs Mozilla Calendar)

I couldn't find out if it was going to eventually be rolled into the Mozilla application suite or not, but there is a download for those using Mozilla 1.7

(posted A/C to avoid karma whoring)

Mozilla Calendar Project (FAQ about Sunbird vs Mozilla Calendar)

I couldn't find out if it was going to eventually be rolled into the Mozilla application suite or not, but there is a download for those using Mozilla 1.7

(posted A/C to avoid karma whoring)

There is, in fact, a googlebar for Firefox but I don't think that it has pagerank.

You can give it a try, though: http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php? application=firefox&id=33&vid=34

Which was supposedly fixed four years ago.

There is actually an extension for Firefox and Mozilla to put it into a kiosk mode under any platform. XPI's are stupidly easy to install and manage. There is also Kiosk Project, which is working on a kiosk setup for linux that involves the browser and twm.

I get 3000 spams/day with my catchall address (krellan.com)!

I will soon be putting in a whitelist of allowed usernames, and bouncing everything else, in hopes of reducing this ridiculously high spamcount.

I get only 100 spams/day correctly addressed to my real addresses that I use on that domain.

This is still too high, but a combination of SpamAssassin on the server and Bayesian filtering on the client (Mozilla Thunderbird) help reduce the number of spams I actually see to almost none! (For safety and in case of false positives, all emails are still archived.)

There's Mozilla bugs with respect to CSS1/2 compliance as well.

There's Mozilla bugs with respect to CSS1/2 compliance as well.

I have to admit, I've been using Slackware since 7.1 as my desktop OS. I was a total n00b when it came to linux, and it took me a week or so to get my X display setup and lovable, but it was a head-first dive into linux anyway. Slackware had most of what I needed; Mozilla for mail and browsing, KDE for a desktop (even though Steven seems to lean towards GNOME), and Gimp for the pictures. I just had to add OpenOffice for the wordprocessing and rlpr to print to our OpenBSD print server. But the thing that saved me the most was the beloved documentation in /usr/doc. Almost every How-To was stuffed in there! I'd recommend it for any newbie that wants to go hard-core fast. I can't wait to try Slackware 10, but I'll probobly wipe out my boxen first (as I've been using the -current branch for so long).

There is a link on Mozilla.org. Check out the 8 July 2004 update that is on the main page on the left column under "Latest News" (now there are 2 more updates above this one). (Notice that the main mozilla page now points to an annoying (cute for some people) page with the birthday announcement.)

-LW

There is a link on Mozilla.org. Check out the 8 July 2004 update that is on the main page on the left column under "Latest News" (now there are 2 more updates above this one). (Notice that the main mozilla page now points to an annoying (cute for some people) page with the birthday announcement.)

-LW

However, there is software in Debian-main that's really only under MPL (Bugzilla comes to my mind) and derived licenses. This will need to be moved to non-free.

The only difference is:
Alert: Microsoft recommends that you install and use FireFox in place of your Internet Explorer web browser.

In case this hasn't been mentioned already, Mozilla 1.8 Alpha2 is now available for download.

• Linux installer (HTTP)
• Linux installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Windows installer (HTTP)
• Windows installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mozilla.org FTP directory

In case this hasn't been mentioned already, Mozilla 1.8 Alpha2 is now available for download.

• Linux installer (HTTP)
• Linux installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Windows installer (HTTP)
• Windows installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mozilla.org FTP directory

In case this hasn't been mentioned already, Mozilla 1.8 Alpha2 is now available for download.

• Linux installer (HTTP)
• Linux installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Windows installer (HTTP)
• Windows installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mozilla.org FTP directory

In case this hasn't been mentioned already, Mozilla 1.8 Alpha2 is now available for download.

• Linux installer (HTTP)
• Linux installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Windows installer (HTTP)
• Windows installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mozilla.org FTP directory

In case this hasn't been mentioned already, Mozilla 1.8 Alpha2 is now available for download.

• Linux installer (HTTP)
• Linux installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Windows installer (HTTP)
• Windows installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mozilla.org FTP directory

In case this hasn't been mentioned already, Mozilla 1.8 Alpha2 is now available for download.

• Linux installer (HTTP)
• Linux installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Windows installer (HTTP)
• Windows installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mozilla.org FTP directory

In case this hasn't been mentioned already, Mozilla 1.8 Alpha2 is now available for download.

• Linux installer (HTTP)
• Linux installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Windows installer (HTTP)
• Windows installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mozilla.org FTP directory

In case this hasn't been mentioned already, Mozilla 1.8 Alpha2 is now available for download.

• Linux installer (HTTP)
• Linux installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Windows installer (HTTP)
• Windows installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP)
• Mac OS X installer (HTTP) (Europe)
• Mozilla.org FTP directory

the most difficult part in changing the client is to convice all my friends to change the IM with me and not just them but also the friends of my friends, the friends of the friends of my friends, and so on...

Too bad (since ICQ is very popular in Brazil).
But everytime Microsoft steps on something seems to wreck it. ( or turn it evil if you will =D )
What surprises me is AOL (who has sued Microsoft in the past and apparently Netscape's owner. The same Netscape who, in the past, has helped the open source community with Mozilla , ) joining Microsoft on this project, relaying the network on MS and having the guts to say that this will the best for the users!

Think for a minute here, if they decide to change or to create a new protocol for their so-called Middleware, the open-source users will be locked out of this IM(at least for a while). Since Microsoft means "I-dont-want-you-to-see-my-crappy-code - source".

This might be a small step for IM users, but is a HUGE step back for the Open-source community.

Could some big corporation just come along and buy Mozilla out?

IANAL, so I can't comment on the legal feasability of this, however, should it prove to be a possiblity, the code that has been released under the MPL would still be available under that license.

Suppose the incumbent owner could find a way to close the devlopment tree and start to create proprietary software from that point. The last publically available version of the code would still be covered by the license agreement under which it was released so it would very quickly become the starting point for a new open-source project and development would continue unabated.

Hence, commitment to the Mozilla platform (or it's open source competition), may be significantly safer than commiting to a browser with closed source, where development can stagnate or even stall completely. Should critical vulnerabilities emerge in such products you are entirely reliant on the investment of the owning company, and if their focus is elsewhere, patches may not be forthcoming.

I think the mistake is understandable, given Firesomething

And naturally anyone who wanted any credibility at all would bother to do the smallest amount of research and would know it was originally called Phoenix....

Seriously I don't get whats so hard.. phoenix -> firebird -> firefox..

all of which are still downloadable including phoenix

And naturally anyone who wanted any credibility at all would bother to do the smallest amount of research and would know it was originally called Phoenix....

Seriously I don't get whats so hard.. phoenix -> firebird -> firefox..

all of which are still downloadable including phoenix

Use Mozilla Firefox and use its auto refresh extension.

Use Mozilla Firefox and use its auto refresh extension.

• Will MS join the bandwagon and jazz up Hotmail (or provide a premium service) that does all the javascript funkiness (drag-n-drop, context menus etc)? They've already done this for exchange web access. If so, is that not kinda shooting desktop Outlook in the foot? Will they fall behind again on this New Thing due to their dekstop blinkers?
• Why do the funky interface thing anyway? A website is a website, and a lot more people are comfortable with the webforms approach to email, because it is a fairly engrained standard (e.g. their online banking is webforms based). Perhaps everyone is being led by the nose by GMail? Never! Fastmail is just one example of thousands of slick webforms-based webmails
• Besides, why not just use IMAP into your rich client of choice.

My sentiment excactly

As Henry Spencer put it "Those who do not understand Unix are condemed to reinvent it, poorly".

Then we have just to be greatfull that microsoft never invents anything. They just "got their inspiration" (and dev. team) from VMS.

Also if microsoft wants original unix donor code to replace the open-source parts of SFU I hope for their sake they dont choose xenix. They sold it to the old SCO, it became openserver. I still wake up in tears after nightmares about this blob of ancient wortless crap... I once had to try and use it... People who buy openserver must have never seen the monty python petstore sketch. That has to be the most dead operating system ever.

If microsoft were to clean the NT kernel up again, put a nice lightweigth shell on it. Give it a real browser/mail client and get the .NET runtime more restrictive/sandboxed(capabilities?) then the java runtime then they would have a modern, secure, stable OS... Then alpha would live on as AMD`s hammers, VMS as NT and unix/next as OS-X... Maybe its not to late to go back to the time when software was designed rather then inherited,repainted,repackaged and shipped.

Who the heck is this "Mozilla team" you are insulting?

I dunno, but they seem to be mentioned a lot on mozilla.org. In fact, it seems that this fictitious "Mozilla team" was responsible for releasing the fix to the shell: protocol handler exploit. I'm with you, though, there is no central team that is responsible for Mozilla, no matter what that silly mozilla.org site would want me to believe.

If you click a link in your e-mail, IT MAY ERASE YOUR ENTIRE COMPUTER!

Just by opening up a webpage, without your knowledge, IE could install several harmful programs that read your e-mail and send your credit card number, name, and all other personal information to hackers across the internet!
Because of these possibilites, Antel has issued several warnings to stay away from Internet Explorer, and instead use Mozilla, Firefox, or Opera.

Now go spread the word to all of your friends!!one1!

Prove the power of e-mail! Forward this to everyone in your address book asap!

IF YOU DO, ANTEL WILL REWARD YOU WITH A $20 ANTEL GIFT CERTIFICATE!
</email>

If you click a link in your e-mail, IT MAY ERASE YOUR ENTIRE COMPUTER!

Just by opening up a webpage, without your knowledge, IE could install several harmful programs that read your e-mail and send your credit card number, name, and all other personal information to hackers across the internet!
Because of these possibilites, Antel has issued several warnings to stay away from Internet Explorer, and instead use Mozilla, Firefox, or Opera.

Now go spread the word to all of your friends!!one1!

Prove the power of e-mail! Forward this to everyone in your address book asap!

IF YOU DO, ANTEL WILL REWARD YOU WITH A $20 ANTEL GIFT CERTIFICATE!
</email>

Doh, hit submit instead of preview, so I'll just finish this up...

Because of these possibilites, Antel has issued several warnings to stay away from Internet Explorer, and instead use Mozilla, Firefox, or Opera.

Now go spread the word to all of your friends!!one1!

Prove the power of e-mail! Forward this to everyone in your address book asap!

IF YOU DO, ANTEL WILL REWARD YOU WITH A $20 ANTEL GIFT CERTIFICATE!


</email>

k I'm done now.

...give thunderfox a try, it is far better than outlook (or outlook express).

...give thunderfox a try, it is far better than outlook (or outlook express).

How many more years of baseless stupidity of open security holes must we endear?

How much longer is security through obsurity going to carry a clueless monopoly to its demise.

Patience has its virtue. But for the end-user, only fools would get lucky. Not this time, Bill.

I'm sticking with Firefox/Mozilla. Mozilla

Thank you open-source for opening my eyes to a better software through open-colloberation and open-cooperation. You've shatter my belief that corporation can fix after themselves.

Instead, we see tons of industries built upon MS insecurities.

Time to experience another industry bubble-burst, this time in the security sector, not I&T.

Firefox. The Browser reloaded.

Seriously, it is even more of a security risk to use IE now. Please try Firefox, and encourage your friends and family to do so too. You will be pleasantly surprised.

Not meaning to sound too ruff on Windows users (I know their IE browser is psuedo-integrated) but I find it hard to see why you'd want to continue using IE when there are so many other lovely browsers available that don't suffer as many vulnerabilities/ get patched so much faster.

Just one example: Firefox. Admittedly I don't use Firefox myself but a number of my Windows using friends have switched to this in recent months and they absolutely love it; even to the point of raving about it to me :)

So what is the real reason that so many Windows users don't find an alternative? Are they bone-idle or are they ignorant to the range of alternatives?

As soon as the IE apologists had a reason - a fleeting one, but a reason still - to act like IE wasn't so bad... the floodgates open.

Link fix. Those go to a specific mirror. These should be redirected as needed:

FireFox:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel eases/0.9.2/shellblock.xpi

Mozilla:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/rel eases/mozilla1.7.1/shellblock.xpi

Link fix. Those go to a specific mirror. These should be redirected as needed:

FireFox:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel eases/0.9.2/shellblock.xpi

Mozilla:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/rel eases/mozilla1.7.1/shellblock.xpi