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All arabs? Who said anything about all arabs? Oh, but wait:

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion

You asked for only one, but there a literally hundreds by prominent Israelis.

You should probably start looking for a different quote, that one is fraudulent.

A Chameleon, Nevertheless

. . . But Morris doesn't stop here. Having stigmatized the Zionist founding fathers as quintessential European-type colonialists, he would not discard the other part of this Arab canard, which he has been peddling for decades, namely, that they were also unreconstructed ethnic cleansers "intent on politically, or even physically, dispossessing and supplanting the Arabs."

I have been battling this defamation of Zionism's very essence for quite some time, showing time and again the extraordinary lengths to which Morris would go by way of fabricating Israeli history (see here, here, here, here, and here). I will therefore confine myself to one telling example of his professional misconduct.

In an October 1937 letter to his son David Ben-Gurion said: "We do not wish and do not need to expel Arabs and take their place. All our aspiration is built on the assumption - proven throughout all our activity - that there is enough room in the country for ourselves and the Arabs." In The Birth Morris represents Ben-Gurion as saying precisely the opposite: "We must expel Arabs and take their places."

Tellingly, in his Hebrew language writings, Morris rendered Ben-Gurion's words accurately, perhaps because he knew his readers could check the original for themselves.)

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Now, for more relevant to the topic at hand, I suggest you google 'Israel threatens Iran'. You'll find plenty, with specific threats and timelines ("within months").

Here is an interesting question: Why are there hostilities at all between Iran and Israel? You do know that Iran and Israel had good relations between them into the 1970s, right? You do know that Iran didn't take part in the Arab-Israeli wars and so never fought against Israel in 1948, 1956, 1967, or 1973, right? It was only after Iran underwent the Islamic revolution of 1979 that it declared itself to be an enemy of Israel. Israel has no reason to be an enemy of Iran other than Iran's behavior. Iran's current behavior is to train and arm Hezbollah and other terrorists with tens of thousands of artillery rockets, antitank missiles, and other weapons, to use in attacking Israel, not to mention suicide bomb attacks and assassinations. Iran itself is engaged in a world-wide series of assassination attempts against Israeli diplomats. That is before we even get into the whole, wipe Israel from the pages of history thing, and Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Is there no aspect of Iran's behavior, including its support of terrorism, that troubles you?

Is questioning Israel's foreign policy 'jew hatred'?

There might be a point where it would be a reasonable suspicion when you ignore Iran's hatred of choice, aggression of choice, and terrorism of choice while painting Israel as the aggressor against Iran, in defiance of the facts, while using forged quotes.

Why do you hate Persians?

Why do you support them? Wouldn't their campaigns of terrorism and barely veiled threats of genocide be enough to make you reconsider?

You views tend to run contrary to what the facts and common sense suggest.

It would if their neighbour who they are currently at war with didn't already have nuclear weapons.

Whose fault is it that they are at war? Israel and Iran had good relations into the 70's, until the Islamic revolution. Iran didn't go to war along with the Arab countries in Arab-Israeli Wars of 1948. 1956, 1967, 1973, and so on. Iran declared themselves an enemy of Israel after the Islamic revolution of 1979 - it is a matter of religious hatred. Iran wouldn't be threatened if it didn't threaten Israel and train, fund, and equip terrorists attacking Israel with thousands of rockets and other weapons. Even now, Iran is sending assassination teams all over the world to try to kill Israeli diplomats.

Iran doesn't want nuclear weapons to defend itself from Israel, it wants them to throw its weight around in the nations along the Arabian Gulf, and to help provide either means or cover for destroying Israel.

Aren't you against "wars of choice"? Shouldn't you oppose genocides of choice? Why do you not oppose Iran's naked hatred?

Again and again Israel has shown its willingness to attack Iran and other neighbouring states with conventional weapons.

You have it backwards. What are all these attacks on Iran by Israel that you speak of - when did the Israeli army cross into Iran? Iran played no part in the Arab-Israeli wars. Iran and Israel were on friendly terms until Iran declared Israel its enemy after the Islamic revolution of 1979. In fact it is Iran that is the aggressor, training and arming terrorists and guerillas to attack israel with rockets and suicde bombers. Shouldn't you be opposing hatred and the wars and terrorism of choice of Iran?

Of course Israel has had to defend itself against Arab armies in this century - since the Arabs have tried to destroy Israel time after time. The Arab nations invaded Palestine within hours of Israel's existence. When Israel was the attacker it was only after the actions and intent of the Arab nations was made clear, such as in 1967:

The attack follows a build-up of Arab military forces along the Israeli border.

The Arab states had been preparing to go to war against Israel with Egypt, Jordan and Syria being aided by Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Algeria.

On 27 May the President of Egypt, Abdel Nasser, declared: "Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." - - 1967: Israel launches attack on Egypt

The Arab leaders made their intent known. Do you not oppose genocide, especially when it is open announced?

Apparently the fault you find with the Israelis is that they do not wait meekly for execution by those who have made their hatred and intent clear.

Since they are backed by the US the only realistic defence is mutually assured nuclear annihilation.

The US has never fought alongside Israeli troops, so that is nonsense. Furthermore, Iran could do what Egypt and Jordan did - sign a peace treaty with Israel. You would think that it would be easier for Iran that Egypt and Jordan since Iran wasn't part of the Arab-Israeli wars, and used to have good relations with Israel until the revolution and the self-declared war against Israel and, in fact, the Jews. Israel would have no interest in hostilities with Iran if Iran left Israel alone.

Why do you not urge Iran to seek peace instead of nuclear weapons?

North Korea is in the same boat. The US doesn't like them, . .

Pics:

http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/colourful-honey-france.jpg

http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/colourful-honey.jpg

http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/green-honey-france.jpg

From this article:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/05/french-beekeepers-blame-mms-candy-for-mysterious-blue-and-green-honey/

There's an easy answer. They could simply build some wind mills or slap in some solar panels and then have the utility pay them at 30-80c/Kwh via a FiT(feed in tariff) like we do here in Ontario for green energy. I'm sure that it would all balance out in time.

You are probably thinking of the Castle Doctrine which has never been in effect in Canada. Ian Thomson was not allowed to even point a gun at people fire-bombing his house in Ontario. Brian Knight was given community service for *injuring* a thief with bird shot. And just for some perspective on traps, even the Supreme Court of Iowa in the US ruled that Edward Briney be charged for setting a trap in his home that caught an actual thief.

You are probably thinking of the Castle Doctrine which has never been in effect in Canada. Ian Thomson was not allowed to even point a gun at people fire-bombing his house in Ontario. Brian Knight was given community service for *injuring* a thief with bird shot. And just for some perspective on traps, even the Supreme Court of Iowa in the US ruled that Edward Briney be charged for setting a trap in his home that caught an actual thief.

What the police did around here a few days, and in several cities across the country, was dress up in plain clothes at some of the most frequented stops in the city for panhandlers, take note of who was on their cell phone, and then identify themselves and pull over the culprits. My favorite was the hand-written cardboard signs they held up.

"Hello. My name is constable [whatever]. If you're on your cell phone right now, you are about to get a ticket."

Har. Around here, they netted hundreds per day.

I see no reason to boycott Canadian oil.

Really? Chiquita banana tried. Then they said it wasn't true and there was no boycott. That was after the Canadian public turned around and left their produce rotting on store shelves.

Not really. Toronto has a population in the greater metropolitan area of about 5.6 million, and a homicide rate of 1.59 per 100 000 (source: http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/30/by-the-numbers-torontos-murder-drops-sharply-in-2011/).

The homicide rate for the US is 4.7 per 100 000 (source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate). Also, from wikipedia, Canada's homicide rate as a whole is 1.7 per 100 000, so Toronto actually has less murders per capita than Canada on average. Events like the Vancouver riots are incredibly rare in Canada, and there just aren't that many murders here.

Also, Detroit has a population density of 5,142/sq mi, while Toronto's is 10,750/sq mi, and Detroit only has a population of about 700 000, but it has a homicide rate of 43 per 100 000 (source: http://www.lawofficer.com/article/news/detroit-murder-rate-likely-15).

So as you can see, it's not the population density that makes Canada so much safer.

The original paper describing the so-called God particle was supposed to be titled "The Goddamn Particle" because of how difficult it was to prove it existed, but the publisher said that Higgs could not use "Goddamn" in the title, and shortened it.

You are confusing Higgs with Lederman.

Lederman proposed the name "goddamn particle" and then agreed with his publisher to call it the "God particle". Lederman even made up some bullshit to justify the name "God particle": "because the particle is so central to the state of physics today, so crucial to our final understanding of the structure of matter, yet so elusive." (source)

“Lederman has a lot to answer for,” said Higgs. (source)

To be fair they are banning all sorts of stuff that kids might swallow.

And the US Border patrol is quite vigorously keeping the stuff out: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/18/tourists-detained-on-way-home-from-vancouver-after-discovering-kinder-surprise-eggs-are-illegal-in-u-s/

So you may end up with some (hopefully still legal in Canada eh!) Buckyballs and get tossed in the slammer if you try and bring them with you into the US!

Now where is that URL, time to buy some one while you still can.

For those with less money there are other ways: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/11/fatal-tiger-mauling-at-denmark-zoo-could-have-been-suicide-police-say/

It is simplistic and likely untrue, but the information did play a part, even if a larger part was likely played both by economics and Mohamed Bouazizi.

A little bit of good is still good.

Skippus, the current government we have up here was elected by fraudulent means.

They're actively blocking the investigation into voter oppression with the line "They should have filed the complaint before they found out about the fraud!" The head investigator into the biggest case of voter oppression had his budget cut by seven million dollars and was forced into early retirement last week. A recent court decision found that fraudulent votes for a CPC candidate were greater than the difference, forcing a by-election.

Several senior members of the government are under investigation for election fraud, including the head of the Ethics Committee.

The party has plead guilty to breaking election law in the last three elections, and responded by appointing those that did the fraud into Senate positions. (Our senate is appointed for life!)

That sounds to me like a coup happened. A silent coup. Like Quebec's Quiet Revolution, but malevolent.

The 80% of us that did NOT vote for the current bag of asshats are waiting patiently for the investigations to conclude.

Far too patiently, if you ask me. Far too patiently...

Stewie's lucky it's not the US or he'd be leaving Parliament Hill in a custom-fitted pine suit.

I am mad enough to riot and drag people bodily from the Hill.

I like that image: custom-fitted pine suit. And, as for dragging people from the Hill -- when are "the troops" going to do what they do in tin-pot dictatorships and throw the government out (or in prison) and force new elections? That would be the ultimate (and most delicious) irony: the troops imprisoning "support out troops" Harper.

And it's insightful - we're precariously close to the 4th box to use in defense of liberty (1: soap box, 2: ballot box, 3: jury box, 4: ammo box).

Posting anon to preserve mod points (Maow).

Skippus, the current government we have up here was elected by fraudulent means.

They're actively blocking the investigation into voter oppression with the line "They should have filed the complaint before they found out about the fraud!" The head investigator into the biggest case of voter oppression had his budget cut by seven million dollars and was forced into early retirement last week. A recent court decision found that fraudulent votes for a CPC candidate were greater than the difference, forcing a by-election.

Several senior members of the government are under investigation for election fraud, including the head of the Ethics Committee.

The party has plead guilty to breaking election law in the last three elections, and responded by appointing those that did the fraud into Senate positions. (Our senate is appointed for life!)

That sounds to me like a coup happened. A silent coup. Like Quebec's Quiet Revolution, but malevolent.

The 80% of us that did NOT vote for the current bag of asshats are waiting patiently for the investigations to conclude.

Far too patiently, if you ask me. Far too patiently...

Stewie's lucky it's not the US or he'd be leaving Parliament Hill in a custom-fitted pine suit.

I am mad enough to riot and drag people bodily from the Hill.

I like that image: custom-fitted pine suit. And, as for dragging people from the Hill -- when are "the troops" going to do what they do in tin-pot dictatorships and throw the government out (or in prison) and force new elections? That would be the ultimate (and most delicious) irony: the troops imprisoning "support out troops" Harper.

And it's insightful - we're precariously close to the 4th box to use in defense of liberty (1: soap box, 2: ballot box, 3: jury box, 4: ammo box).

Posting anon to preserve mod points (Maow).

Skippus, the current government we have up here was elected by fraudulent means.

They're actively blocking the investigation into voter oppression with the line "They should have filed the complaint before they found out about the fraud!" The head investigator into the biggest case of voter oppression had his budget cut by seven million dollars and was forced into early retirement last week. A recent court decision found that fraudulent votes for a CPC candidate were greater than the difference, forcing a by-election.

Several senior members of the government are under investigation for election fraud, including the head of the Ethics Committee.

The party has plead guilty to breaking election law in the last three elections, and responded by appointing those that did the fraud into Senate positions. (Our senate is appointed for life!)

The 80% of us that did NOT vote for the current bag of asshats are waiting patiently for the investigations to conclude. Stewie's lucky it's not the US or he'd be leaving Parliament Hill in a custom-fitted pine suit.

I am mad enough to riot and drag people bodily from the Hill.

Skippus, the current government we have up here was elected by fraudulent means.

They're actively blocking the investigation into voter oppression with the line "They should have filed the complaint before they found out about the fraud!" The head investigator into the biggest case of voter oppression had his budget cut by seven million dollars and was forced into early retirement last week. A recent court decision found that fraudulent votes for a CPC candidate were greater than the difference, forcing a by-election.

Several senior members of the government are under investigation for election fraud, including the head of the Ethics Committee.

The party has plead guilty to breaking election law in the last three elections, and responded by appointing those that did the fraud into Senate positions. (Our senate is appointed for life!)

The 80% of us that did NOT vote for the current bag of asshats are waiting patiently for the investigations to conclude. Stewie's lucky it's not the US or he'd be leaving Parliament Hill in a custom-fitted pine suit.

I am mad enough to riot and drag people bodily from the Hill.

Why not make texting traps?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/02/police-dress-as-panhandlers-to-nab-texting-drivers-but-activists-frown-on-program/

cheers,

They are safe as houses.

Okaaay...

I think it's important to know that the cat died a natural death...

Actually, the cat was killed by a car. It's even in the URL of the story that TFA is citing. "Orvillecopter-takes-flight-cat-run-over-by-car-gets-extra-life-as-a-remote-controlled-helicopter." One cannot claim there's anything natural about the cat's death, unless it was a Prius that ran it over.

There might be some supernatural justice involved if the owner retaliates against the driver who hit the cat by flying it into his windshield while driving, scaring the living crap out of him. Actually, that would make for a great 21st-century sequel to The Birds: Dutch artist turns dead animals hit by motorists into helicopters and uses them to run those motorists off the road with an ever-growing swarm of dead, flying remote-control animals. Will he be stopped before he sets off an actual robotic-zombie apocalypse?

I've heard many arguments over the years from people who claim the rest of the world should follow the Dutch policy on drugs. From now on, I'm going to rebut those arguments by showing the video of this catcopter. "See what happens when you let everyone smoke whatever they want? They start turning dead animals into UAVs and flying them all over the place. Still think it's a good idea?"

If your idea of a weekend's recreation is to go to a bar, get drunk, and get into a frontier fight, yes, if you kill somebody with an unlucky punch and you can't establish self-defense, you might be convicted of homicide or murder, in Australia or the civilized parts of America. That's what homicide is.

You made the point that unarmed people had been shot and that you didn't consider it self defense if someone else used a gun. You consistently want to avoid the implications of your arguments. For many people a gun a reasonable tool to defend themselves from an attacker, even an unarmed one.

The reason stand your ground laws have so much support is because they are just. Self defense is an inalienable right.

You have hit the nail on the head

Many security breaches can be prevented if we just follow the guidelines that are in place. If you look at the case of Sub-Lieutenant Jeffrey Delisle there were some indicators such as his divorce and bankruptcy which are red flags.

In Delisle's case he was caught, but it is not clear how much info he sold.

Yet a third case of Security Officials dropping the ball is John Walker who I believe was turned in by his wife. This guy at one point didn't even try to keep his clearance updated!

So, in the end it falls to the procedures we have in place. If we don't consistently follow them, we pay the consequences.

I'm sure it would also explain the brutally cold winter that Europe experienced this year. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/03/cold-weather-kills-more-than-220-in-europe-danube-freezes-over-france-set-to-break-power-consumption-records/

What I remember from thermodynamics when I took it with Newton: pumping energy (heat) into system making it go all kaflooey. Hotter and colder and then even colder to outrageously hot.

Nope, obviously a conspiracy on the part on those people who wrote the laws of thermodynamics in order to eventually tax us and hand over our God given sovereignty to the UN!

Or a conspiracy in your head - aside from taking physics with someone called "Newton" - having no person of note by the name _alive_ before now in the span of the oldest living Human's life - and somehow taking an interpretation from him which lies on the assumption of a read maxwell's demon - I'd go with "it's in your head, hippy" in conjunction with "they compared March this year to April of previous years for a reason and your dumb ass ignored the month chosen entirely"

Who profited from this? So far it seems the Liberals have...

Sabotage your own candidates in close races so that, a year later, they might get to run again in a by-election? I've accused the Liberals of not really wanting to win, but that's ridiculous.

but the phone was registered to a pierre poutine of separist street Quebec - would the Conservatives do that?

The person who registered the burner phone was a bit of an ass, apparently. I used to know a Tiny Tory who would have loved that joke — not that I'd want to help anyone pin this multi-riding scheme on poor old alleged ballot box toucher Michael Sona, who's terrible at looking innocent but incorrectly placed to have masterminded the scheme.

And there has never been a heart transplant recipient who has lived more than 10 years.

Bollocks. The current record is 31 years, set when 1978 transplant recipient Tony Huesman died in 2009. Dwight Kroening finished his first Ironman triathlon 22 years after his transplant. Five-year survival runs around 70%, and ten-year survival for heart transplants is about 50%.

A heart transplant certainly isn't a panacea; it's not a magical cure, and it carries serious and ongoing risks--but it's also not the unmitigated disaster that you seem to think it is.

Did you even read the article you linked to?

It describes a private prison established by the provincial government of Ontario, not the federal government, and even then, it was long before Harper was prime minister.

billcopc claimed, "one of the for-profit prisons he's established" which is fundamentally false. The federal government does not have any for-profit prisons established by Harper (or any other prime minister).

Yes Stephen Harper IS privatizing prisons.

There is no evidence to that effect. Are there any private federal prisons right now? Has Harper announced the privatization of any federal prisons? No.

NO it is NOT a good idea.

Hey, we can agree on something - I think privatizing prisons is a bad idea too.

Look, I'm not a fan of Stephen Harper, but you could criticize him for things that are actually true.

For example, Harper has announced a big expansion of the federal prison system, which will cost many, many billions: http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/09/24/the-largest-expansion-of-prison-building-since-the-1930s/

If you disagree with the expansion, then you can criticize Harper for that. Or any of the many other mistakes Harper has made in office.

But when you make things up that are false & easy to check, that makes you look like a raving loony idiot.

Allow me to interject some cruel reality to your political revenge fantasies:

There is no evidence that Harper’s campaign or any of the other candidates were involved in the calls. , , ,

Using telephone billing records and Racknine server logs, Elections Canada investigators identified the Racknine account holder who sent out the calls. . . .

Meier and his company are co-operating fully with the probe, he said. . . .

He said he knows whose account was used for the calls, but could not reveal the owner, because of client confidentiality and concerns about interfering with the investigation. He said it was someone “down East” — meaning Ontario or Quebec.

FTA: Firm with Tory links traced to election day ‘robocalls’ that tried to discourage voters

Feedbacks are a consequence of the forcing. Both should be counted. Also, keep in mind that 2C is the difference between a glacial and interglacial period - not insignificant. Human influence is both positive (greenhouse gasses) and negative (aerosols). Damn I hope you read through this post - it took way too long to compile :)

Granted, they are not a coherent movement so I can't say that all skeptics have predicted global cooling. The leaders of the movement who are willing to predict anything at all have predicted or promoted global cooling. They are right of course. If CO2 is not a major driver then global cooling has indeed been imminent for the last couple decades. Here is the solar output since 1985: http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/sidc-ssn/mean:138/from:1985

Here are examples from leaders of the skeptic movement predicting or promoting global cooling:

Joseph D'Aleo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_D'Aleo

John McLean: http://www.skepticalscience.com/mclean-exaggerating-natural-cycles.html

Christopher Monckton: http://icecap.us/images/uploads/monckton-global_warming_has_stopped.pdf

Anthony Watts: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22global+cooling%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwattsupwiththat.com

Piers Corbyn: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/global-warming-skeptic-predicts-brutal-winter-warns-you-aint-seen-nothing-yet/

James Dellingpole: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100055500/global-cooling-and-the-new-world-order/

Don Easterbrook: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/29/don-easterbrooks-agu-paper-on-potential-global-cooling/

Henrik Svensmark http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/10/svensmark-global-warming-stopped-and-a-cooling-is-beginning-enjoy-global-warming-while-it-lasts/

David Rose: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming--Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html

Alan Caruba, "An Icy End for Mankind?" Science and Environmental Policy Project, November 26, 2005; and Robert W. Felix, "Not by Fire, But by Ice: The Next Ice Age Now," Bellevue, WA: Sugarhouse Publishing.

Lawrence Solomon: http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2010/05/03/lawrence-solomon-arctic-ice-sets-records-in-april-could-auger-global-cooling.aspx

The only notable people missing are McIntyre, McKitrick, Spencer, and Lindzen. None of these people are willing or able to make predictions.

My prediction? We've just had the hottest La Nina on record - hotter even than all but one of the El Nino's of the previous century. La Nina's are cooler part of the ENSO. ENSO neutral 2010 was tied for hottest year on record. Even a small El Nino (warm part of ENSO) will push us into the hottest year on record. So the hottest year on record will come with the next El Nino. Probably within 2 years?

Boy people still go on with that shit huh? So tell me something. There's this murder trial going on up here in Canada, in Ontario, in a city called Kingston. Heard of it? Maybe. It was on CNN today. Did you know that the only media outlet that's printed that they're muslim in the US was fox? Every media outlet, including the CBC in Canada printed that. It's like the majority of the media you guys have, fears printing the truth. Or they're afraid that telling you the truth about people is a bad thing.

Hey did they tell you that there was a bomb threat there today? Well most of them didn't, they just told you that it was evacuated because of a 'security' concern. But the police briefing to the media stated a bomb threat.

I can cite example after example, I'd say it's more a specific problem of political correctness trumping freedom of the press, and very few people standing up to it. Hell, you even see that during the WH press briefings, well if you ever watch them unedited.

Yep, but the Liberals have finally seen the light on that. In the last convention they seem to finally be willing to accept preferential voting to block the Conservatives, at the risk of having to work within minority governments more often. I guess the fear of Conservative policies overcame their greed for power. I would want a new party leader to commit to it as part of an election platform before I jump for joy, but it's a start. If that pushes the NDP to do the same, then it would be a significant improvement towards having governments that more closely reflect the will of the electorate instead of tyranny of the vocal minority.

Te MegaUpload take down, not quite carefully timed to give Congress some balls regarding SOPA, is likely to become a circus act of the most grandiose proportions.

Not only did the Feds seize a foreign company, but they did so in the face of several SCOTUS decisions that held harmless the operators of sites that might contain user uploaded content which might violate copyright, in addition to billions of files that did no such thing.

With the government forced withdrawal of Megaupload's attorney Robert Bennett, citing rather insincere claims of conflict of interest, and the Justice department seizing a Foreign company this is far from the normal pattern for these cases. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chinese government step into the fray any day now.

When the dust clears on this battle there will be some major revelations about how much pressure the DOJ used all over the world to affect this arrest and take down. Eight countries, big and small like New Zealand were leaned on to act, for largely theatrical effect as SOPA goes down to public pressure. The timing couldn't be accidental. But the DOJ miss timed it by three days, and their case is far from certain.

I predict this will drag out for a long time.

Not sure if you meant anything by the reference to the 3rd world, but the 1st world isn't that much better.

The plan displayed at the bottom of this National Post article. (after the part where the captain gets in trouble)

"While I am sure, there are plenty of corporate shills on Slashdot, most randroids look like genuine idiots to me."

While some may be, slashdot used to be a bit more diverse in discussion it's become a lot more monolithic and droning as time has gone on. The more intelligent users usually upvote things they don't agree with if it adds value to discussion and I've found that quality declining as time has gone on and I'm not the only one who's noticed it. My trust in moderation systems have gone down as corporations and government have the resources to game these systems easily. Especially with bot driven systems. Not to mention corporations and government hiring "communications" divisions or "marketing" divisions doing the same shit.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/03/29/craigslist-ad-for-right-wing-commentators-draws-suspicion-and-elicits-a-few-giggles/

No, but it will take your children away for it.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/27/couple-who-named-son-adolf-hitler-lose-custody-battle-despite-being-cleared-of-abuse/

I call BS. Canada has by now succeeded in managing the Quebec situation well and subdued the "frenchman" quite effectively.
The idea of designating Quebec a "nation" within Canada was the final nail hammered by the federal government into the coffin of Quebec separatism (the coffin having been build primarily by pacifying provincial transfer payments), and led to the destruction of the Parti Quebecois in the last election.
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/bought+Quebec/5771308/story.html

But then I educated myself about the facts.
the consensus position of 97-99% of all climate scientists

lmfao! Sock puppet drops the consensus myth. How many scientist participated? Hundreds, Thousands, Millions?
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/06/13/the-ipcc-consensus-on-climate-change-was-phoney-says-ipcc-insider/

Aside from that, the entire premise is absurd and runs counter to any scientific methodology.

Now crawl back under your rock. Your self humiliation is embarrassing to watch.

You jest, but our pointy haired idiots running Edmonton actually considered banning knives because there were a few stabbings.

Actually, I don't know ANY young earth creationist that believes that the climate hasn't changed on earth. Most Creationists believe the Ice Age was a direct result of the Flood cooling the earth. The point is, the earth (and mankind) has survived the changing climate in many areas for a long time. The "Fertile Crescent" is now a desert. Siberia used to be a grassland, based on the contents of mammoth's stomachs.

When you see those kinds of drastic changes on earth when there were few (or no) men on earth, why is everyone freaking out about half a degree over the last century (http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=94b7d021-c5da-4e82-b37f-53d338709fb1, which could be easily explained by deforestation or other natural causes?

I read the headline as:
"US Defends UNESCO After Palestine Vote"

Anyway... today's news is reporting Benjamin Netanyahu calling for accelerated construction in the West Bank and Israel effectively punishing Palestinians for the Unesco move .

Can someone with a clear understanding of the situation please explain how this these actions by Israel are Just? Is Israel encroaching on Palestinian land?

Have a few numbers:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/25/christian-brothers-abuse-payout [guardian.co.uk]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23521616/ns/us_news-faith/t/catholic-sex-abuse-payouts-top-million/ [msn.com]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1557479/Roman-Catholic-Church-agrees-sexual-abuse-payout.html [telegraph.co.uk]

http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/08/18/clergy-abuse-payouts-pushing-dublin-archdiocese-toward-bankruptcy/ [nationalpost.com]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Catholic+Church+seeks+limit+abuse+payouts+Germany/3605154/story.html [montrealgazette.com]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jun/24/usa.danglaister [guardian.co.uk]

http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2011/03/catholic-jesuits-in-166-million-abuse.html [blogspot.com]

http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2011/01/catholic-abuse-victims-offered-firm.html [vaticancrimes.us]

The response has been documented to have AGGRAVATED the problem, and continued over decades.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/25/christian-brothers-abuse-payout [guardian.co.uk]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23521616/ns/us_news-faith/t/catholic-sex-abuse-payouts-top-million/ [msn.com]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1557479/Roman-Catholic-Church-agrees-sexual-abuse-payout.html [telegraph.co.uk]

http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/08/18/clergy-abuse-payouts-pushing-dublin-archdiocese-toward-bankruptcy/ [nationalpost.com]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Catholic+Church+seeks+limit+abuse+payouts+Germany/3605154/story.html [montrealgazette.com]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jun/24/usa.danglaister [guardian.co.uk]

http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2011/03/catholic-jesuits-in-166-million-abuse.html [blogspot.com]

http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2011/01/catholic-abuse-victims-offered-firm.html [vaticancrimes.us]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/25/christian-brothers-abuse-payout

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23521616/ns/us_news-faith/t/catholic-sex-abuse-payouts-top-million/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1557479/Roman-Catholic-Church-agrees-sexual-abuse-payout.html

http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/08/18/clergy-abuse-payouts-pushing-dublin-archdiocese-toward-bankruptcy/

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Catholic+Church+seeks+limit+abuse+payouts+Germany/3605154/story.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jun/24/usa.danglaister

http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2011/03/catholic-jesuits-in-166-million-abuse.html

http://www.vaticancrimes.us/2011/01/catholic-abuse-victims-offered-firm.html

Here's another one for you, in case you missed it: Triceratops didn't exist.

Seems to be the same gaffe that they made with the Apatosaurus.

Yes and no. From the article:

Triceratops fans shouldn’t despair at the finding, though. Scientists will now reclassify all torosaurus as triceratops.

So, Triceratops is still with us (actually, according to the wikipedia entry for Torosaurus, Triceratops was found first, so that is the correct name).

Here's another one for you, in case you missed it: Triceratops didn't exist.

Seems to be the same gaffe that they made with the Apatosaurus.

At least Obama does not have an international warrant out for his arrest like Bush Jr does: http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/12/amnesty-canada-required-to-arrest-george-w-bush/

I'm an engineer.

Me too

The issue is how to deal with global warming - just ask the people in Texas experiencing extreme drought with a record number of days with temperatures over 100 degrees if they care about scientific theories on why it's happening. Just ask the polar bears who are losing their habitats. Just ask the people of Africa who are seeing their lakes dry up. Just ask the people of Pakistan experiencing record floods. Just ask the people of the southern USA who have seen record numbers and severity of tornadoes and storms in the last few years. There are many more examples from all over the world. Contrary to your apparent belief, politicians didn't cause any of these disasters.

Drought in Texas, look no further than ENSO and what effect La Nina has on that region.

This is a newspaper article, so take it with a grain of salt, but polar bears: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1ea8233f-14da-4a44-b839-b71a9e5df868
"The latest government survey of polar bears roaming the vast Arctic expanses of northern Quebec, Labrador and southern Baffin Island show the population of polar bears has jumped to 2,100 animals from around 800 in the mid-1980s."

Record numbers and severity of tornadoes and storms: have a look at the actual accumulated global cyclone energy graph. http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/global_running_ace.jpg It paints a very different picture than the one of killer storms due to CAGW.

There are many examples of predictions from the CAGW hypothesis that have been falsified, and yet the hypothesis has never been revised.

If the predictions of CAGW are falsified, we as engineers, maybe potentially far over-designing things, or worse, designing to a factor of safety for one threat, which isn't a threat at all, while ignoring a real threat. Fact is, without the solid empirical evidence that that we require, we can't know what results to expect, and that is the situation we are currently in. There is a great deal of empirical evidence which does not support the theories which are predicting the expected results.

Canadian Green Party MP Elizabeth May warns us about the dangers of wifi, from her Blackberry.

This is nothing but propaganda. Let us not forget "climategate". The /. audience is perfectly capable of getting those files and reading the source code - pay attention to the comments. Climate scientists make a mockery of the scientific process and it is spectacularly well funded by the most powerful people on the planet. It is well worth reading The Club of Rome's "The First Global Revolution" especially the part entitled "The Common Enemy of Humanity is Man" (page 85). It should be a warning sign when the media presents the science as settled - I think we all know that is never true and is a statement aimed at naive people.

The endgame for this nonsense are carbon taxes that will be used to radically change the way we live. If you would like to know what these people are after read Agenda 21. You can read a synopsis of that here.

We need to stop this now.

You might try actually reading some of the climategate emails or the comments in the MBH code or some of the published email excerpts from conversations that have been revealed from outside of climategate. There is an interesting little article here: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/19/lawrence-solomon-wikipedia-s-climate-doctor.aspx


If solar activity drops back off the the present Grand Maximum and temperatures cool then obviously that information will have to be incorporated into the science but if as climate scientists contend the temperatures continue to rise despite dropping solar activity that kind of supports their theory. We'll find out, won't we?

Agreed. In about five to fifteen years we should have an indication, in about twenty (well into the "missing" cycle) we should have a much more solid understanding. We might have figured out a bit more about solar dynamics, too. Personally I think we are missing a major factor associated with the Sun's magnetic field. I'm not convinced by the GCR-cloud model (although there is evidence supporting it) but there may well be other modes of energy transfer or alteration of energy trapping mechanisms we haven't figured out yet.

As for Milankovitch cycles -- yeah, but no. Yeah they appear to be a contributing factor, but there are a bunch of other factors all with different periods that apparently constructively and destructively interfere, and once again even models built with all of those factors don't quantitatively agree with the data. You won't like it, but some of the work associated with the series of GCR articles by Svensmark and others find an interesting correlation between temperature and the solar system's bobbing up and down through the galactic plane. As of last time I looked nobody had a convincing model that was able to retroactively explain the geological temperature record in terms of only Milankovitch cycles or predict things like the end of the current interglacial. Using the simplest of models -- the past is like the present -- we are probably living in borrowed interglacial time already; the current interglacial is one of the longest and hottest of the last five or six, at least, stretching over the last half million years plus. Given the general precipitousness of the plunge and the fluctuations preceding it, there is almost certainly at least bistability in the climate feedback cycle. If one simply does a fourier analysis of the temperature curve and looks at the periods of the major factors, one can easily see significant components with timescales of centuries and millennia. Climate transitions look very much like very slow second order critical phenomena, with a lot of chaotic fluctuation near the change. On this scale, the MWP, the LIA, the current warm period could all be part of an approaching critical instability in the climate. Personally, I think all of this is extremely interesting in a completely objective sort of way. Remove the hysteria, the doom and gloom, and what the Earth and Sun are doing is quite fascinating. What could possibly cause century-scale periods of low to no solar magnetic activity? What makes it extremely active at other times? Are there correlations between improbables such as solar state and volcanic activity (that is, is there sufficient coupling between the relatively rapidly varying solar flux and the Earth's conducting core to enable a direct transfer of energy such as the one that melted the asteroids during the early history of the solar system)? How chaotic are the major oscillations? How important is the "oceanic conveyor belt" in establishing -- or flipping between -- bistable or multistable climate states?

I tend to think that we are largely clueless about much of this, because the problem is so very complex that simple models fail, leaving us with tantalizing but incomplete correlations. Correlations, of course, are not causality, but in many cases they are all we have.

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