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Re:I don't think this is really true.
1+ for easily and percisely tag almost all photos we were able to stuff in it. In microseconds.
This tech is old for the 2d face work. Its fast for local police Privacy concerns? UK police test 'faster-than-ever' facial recognition software http://rt.com/uk/173292-facial... (July 16, 2014)
Or just read the public info on records per second in the 10,000 records/sec http://www.nec.com/en/global/r... -
It's not Google
From the announcement in the quoted article:
"A consortium of six global companies announced that they have signed commercial agreements to build and operate a new Trans-Pacific cable system to be called “FASTER” (...) The six-company consortium is comprised of China Mobile International, China Telecom Global, Global Transit, Google, KDDI and SingTel."
The OP gives the wrong idea that Google backs up the project and the others are involved only in management, which seems incorrect from the original announcement in NEC's page. -
Re:Was there any ACARS data?
ADS/CPDLC runs over ACARS and definitely sends position data. Believe me, I used to code this stuff for a living.
What this guy says. I also use ACARS on a daily basis. We don't have ADS-B, and our ACARS still sends position info.
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Re:Was there any ACARS data?
ADS/CPDLC runs over ACARS and definitely sends position data. Believe me, I used to code this stuff for a living.
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Re:Oh
IBM don't make PCs any more
That's funny, because I see them selling workstations and tower servers. Those are PCs.
Dell started 8 years after Apple (and after the Mac)
Acer started 13 years after Apple (and after the Mac)
NEC don't make PCs any more
Sony made their first PC 7 years after Apple (and after the Mac)
Cray never made PCs
"Every company that made computers when we started the Mac, they're all gone"
Fujitsu only started making PCs 14 years after Apple (and after the Mac)
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Re:Businesses...
Been done already, way back in 2004 actually...
http://www.nec.com/global/features/index18/index.h tml
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Re:Who are they working for?
Probably all working for the Chinese
I think I can take a guess where each of these companies stand with respect to OSS:Alcatel: The parent company is based out of France, with close ties to the government. Probably pro-open source.
Ericsson: Sony owns them. This won't last. Sure, they've got a good track record, but...
Motorola: they're in it to make money, acquiring open source companies and selling linux-based phones.
NEC: They jumped on Itanium for their cluster platform, so they joined OSDL two years ago, probably to make sure their investment paid off.
Siemens: Just barely joined the OSDL. Siemens Communications is primarily a hardware company; from my POV they're just trying to push their profit margin.
Nokia: they seem pretty secure as a cell phone company; I think they're into OSS genuinely to benefit the community. Take a look at what they're Open Sourcing.
Their contributions to open source notwithstanding, it looks like they want to:
1. Form alliance, apply magic words "Open Source"
2. Post article on slashdot, improve public image
3. Wait for OSS community to write their software
4. Sell COTS hardware to upgrade cell networks
5. Profit!Of course, maybe they're working on Carrier Grade Linux just so they don't have to buy Micro$oft products any more.
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Also SocksCap
I too have followed the putty-as-socks-proxy route described by others.
For enabling stuff like iTunes, which doesn't know from SOCKS, try SocksCap.
Finally, I used to have a filter on my work machine's Outlook that would run a program when a message with a particular subject came in from me--the program would ssh-tunnel back to my home machine thus enabling me to log in to work from home, but also establishing the connection only when I wanted it.
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Re:Irresistable
"For those with a short memory, NEC is a "baby bell" (an AT&T spin-off)."
BZZT! NEC http://www.nec.com/ is Nippon Electric Corporation, an immense japanese conglomerate founded in 1899. You're probably thinking of NCR, which was swallowed, never digested, and subsequently regurgitated by AT&T.
Your third real option is probably Fujitsu or IBM. The issue isn't just the interconnects, as you can buy those from Myricom http://www.myri.com/ or Quadrics.http://www.quadrics.com/ PNNL did this for their monstrous Itanium-2 system. It's also memory bandwidth, disk throughput, and that some jobs really require vector processors.
What Microsoft brings to the table, beyond incompatibility, overhead, and confusion, is really beyond me at the moment. They have a possibility of making an impact on high-throughput systems, but I can't see what they offer high-performance users. -
Re:Juniper
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Scientific ArticlesSearching the net is great but it is much harder to find articles and then get access to those articles through your schools online system. Up until now I have been happy with PubMed for medical related articles and scirus or citeseer. Recently I have discovered the new Google Scholar which I have been very impressed with. Not only is it universal topic wise but has a very good system for searching papers that cite any particular article, similar to citeseer, and contains several different sources to retrieve the article.
Google Scholar - fast, link to articles that cite it, no reference links, multiple sources, instituitional access, reliable, good ordering
CiteSeer - slow, citations, references, multiple sources (including local), bibtex entry, not a reliable server
PubMed - monster of medical related, fast, no citations, no references, single source, fast, reliable, not best ordering
Scirus - fast, reliable, no citations, no references, single source
Best feature wise is Citeseer but for overall experience Google Scholar puts on a good show
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Re:Incredible desktop support?
FreeBSD can run on enterprise class hardware if you feel like buying enterprise class hardware.
No, actually it can't.
This, this, this, this, this, this, even this, and of course this is enterprise class hardware. FreeBSD runs none of them, so what enterprise class hardware *does* it run on?
FreeBSD doesn't even understand NUMA, which is basically indispensable for Opteron, POWER, or any serious Intel IA64 or x86 platforms. -
mechanical implementationsNot exactly the same thing, but it is possible to build computers of a sort out of very simple physical systems: sliding-block puzzles. You know, where you have a box of wooden rectangular pieces, and you have to slide them around so as to make one reach a certain position.
The resulting computers are nondeterministic. They are computers in the sense that, given a Turing machine and a given input, you can construct a corresponding sliding-block puzzle that is solvable if and only if the Turing machine would eventually print YES. The catch is that this only works when the Turing machine is allowed to use only an amount of tape polynomial in its input size (but then, the same is effectively true of real computers). Technically, this means that sliding-block puzzles are PSPACE-complete - that's the next complexity class up from NP-complete.
Anyway, the construction does involve building logic gates out of sliding-block components, so the things are rather like actual computers. The constructions are based on the earlier result that you can build computers out of Rush Hour puzzles.
More info here:
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Re:Scholar search!I feel that google scholar search will quickly steal the #1 from ACM (for those who subscribe) and citeseer (for the others). It's so cool!
Before, I had to write a meta-search engine for research papers (papersearch), but maybe now all we'll need is google.
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Is it really the fastest
Well if it is the fastest then what is this.. http://www.hpce.nec.com/445+M5043fbf9d60.0.html/ the NEC supercomputer does 65TFLOPS..
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Re:Runs Linux?Here is an example GFS configuration.
There is no mystery about "porting" GFS to SX, because it runs on a TX-7 Itanium Linux server, as a dedicated SX peripheral.
High-speed File Sharing Through GFS: GFS (Global File System) is a file system that enables sharing between several nodes within a SAN (Storage Area Network) environment built on Fibre Channel. By using the TX7 series GFS, NEC offers high-speed file sharing with the SX supercomputer series.
Imagine a 16-processor TX-7 Itanium GFS server dedicated to serving GFS for a 128-processor SX system.
Most people are overwhelmed just by the thought of a 16-processor TX-7 by itself. Now imagine the TX-7 being dedicated solely for use as a file server for a SX supercomputer. Separate machines, separate OSes.
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Re:Runs Linux?The GFS fileserver runs on an Itanium Linux server, the TX-7, while the number-crunching computation runs on the SX vector machine.
Some customers who buy such hybrid SX/TX-7 systems want to use their TX-7 nodes for computation and not just I/O, and so NEC sells software development tools for Itanium systems as well. But the competition in Itanium server space is fierce, with SGI, HP, et.al. having similar offerings.
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Doh
They couldn't call it the Nintendo Entertainment System, because that was taken (NES), and definitely wouldn't do the system justice. They thought they were safe with Nintendo Entertainment Console - but that's taken too (NEC).
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Re:Reviews and moderationHave you tried citeseer? Great way to trace down papers that matter (like what the grandparent was explaining), and often download them for free too.
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Re:Can it work? It does work!Actually somewhere I read about this search engine that specializes in searching thru electronic scientific papers and journals - many customers pay lot of money 'cause thats the real value - find everything you need in 10th of time you'd need to the same on Google.
You might be refering to citeseer, which lists (and caches) papers from websites and allows you to see which papers cite it and which papers it cites and how similar it is to other papers in the collection
:-)Ian
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Re:Prior usage?'"As an aside Paul Graham's "A Plan for Spam" was published August 2002."
IANAL, but isn't that a proof of "prior usage" and makes the patent invalid?'
And even earlier, as freshmeat points out:
Paul Graham kicked off a flood of mail filters implementing Bayesian filtering with his "A Plan for Spam" article in August 2002, though it was far from a new concept. In fact, ifile has used a Naive Bayes classification algorithm since August 1996 to automatically file mail into folders. In academic circles, Bayesian methods have been used in text classification for many years, and for spam detection prior to Graham, as evidenced by the 1998 workshop paper A Bayesian Approach to Filtering Junk E-Mail by Sahami, et al.
I, myself, remember discussion of AI versus Bayesian versus fuzzy set etc. methods being compared for text classification and search in the 1980s. Here, for example, is the announcement of a presentation in 1990 by James Coombs to Brown Computing in the Humanities Users' Group which includes Bayesian classification. -
Re:Calculating the payoff
Don't be silly, Apple is a very small fish in a very big pond compared to real supercomputer companies like SGI.
What the big companies do is let you login to their machines free of charge, over the internet, and take their machines for a spin. See e.g. http://www.testdrive.compaq.com
On top of that, what the companies with a *serious interest* in high performance computing (like SGI and Cray) do is let you email your program to them: they will spend days or weeks (up to you) tuning it, telling you how it works on their hardware, and even telling you that you're better off with the competition, if that ends up being the case. What these companies understand very well, that Apple doesn't, is that people who spend $10M+ on computing equipment, typically with public money, need to show due diligence in their choice of hardware. This means THOROUGH evaluation: benchmarks, benchmarks, benchmarks - and not _standard_ benchmarks, but the benchmarks that matter: the user's own software.
Take a look here to see a real-life snapshot of this kind of process.
Any company that tried to "fudge the numbers" would be caught out, and that looks VERY bad. So the companies instead do all they can to help with the evaluation process, and hope that they get chosen. If not, there's always the next sale. A big supercomputer is sold somewhere every day or two, after all.
Virginia Tech's "X" doesn't come into this category: for example, no actual scientific work has been performed on the machine so far apart from benchmarks/system development, etc. Dr Varadarajan is probably going to get a pretty nasty grilling in a couple of years, when the University asks "so, what did we get for our money?" Some P.R., and not a whole lot more it would seem. I wish them luck...
Apple is not really a supercomputer company: and really, who cares? Apple has been, is, and will probably remain a great computer company for a good long while yet. But don't expect Apple to help you out a great deal if you pop them an email going "say, how does the G5 run on the ASCI Purple benchmarks?". That's just not what Apple are about. (example: they are happy to sell you a box with a 64-bit CPU, but they could care less that they don't have a 64-bit OS to go with it..) -
Re:Alternative search engines
You can often do better than Google's web search for specialized searches. Froogle or Yahoo! Shopping works better for finding products. Google News works better for finding news articles. IMDB is better for movie reviews and information. CiteSeer is better for finding CS research papers.
While someone may eventually beat Google for general web search, it's these niche searches that offer a lot of easy opportunity. Because Google is a general purpose search engine, it's not too hard to beat it in a specific topic areas. -
Re:He's at the Media Lab..The purpose of people at the Media lab is basically to act cool and make MIT look good and therefore get donations from companies and rich people -- they don't do research like proving P != NP or stuff like that there.
Your claim is testable, and it comes out false. Check out some lists of publications and citations; for example: agents publications, or CBA publications or Pattie Maes' CV, or Sandy Pentland's citations, or Neil Gershenfeld's citations. I'm skipping Marvin Minsky and Seymore Papert because they did their most significant work before coming to the media lab.
Now that I have your attention, I'll let you in on a little secret: to get tenure at MIT you have to have a ton of publications and citations. There ain't no other way, no matter now much money you raise. The esteemed Professor Hawley is a case in point: raised millions, but was denied tenure. On the other hand, some folks you might not have heard of, such as Pattie Maes, Justine Cassell, Ted, Adelson, Neil Gershenfeld, Steve Benton, Sandy Pentland, Roz Picard, and others I can't think of at the moment, have earned MIT tenure, published influential work, and graduated PhD students many of whom teach and train PhDs at well known schools.
Disclaimer: I got my PhD at the Media Lab, but I don't teach or train PhDs at any well-known school. -
Re:He's at the Media Lab..The purpose of people at the Media lab is basically to act cool and make MIT look good and therefore get donations from companies and rich people -- they don't do research like proving P != NP or stuff like that there.
Your claim is testable, and it comes out false. Check out some lists of publications and citations; for example: agents publications, or CBA publications or Pattie Maes' CV, or Sandy Pentland's citations, or Neil Gershenfeld's citations. I'm skipping Marvin Minsky and Seymore Papert because they did their most significant work before coming to the media lab.
Now that I have your attention, I'll let you in on a little secret: to get tenure at MIT you have to have a ton of publications and citations. There ain't no other way, no matter now much money you raise. The esteemed Professor Hawley is a case in point: raised millions, but was denied tenure. On the other hand, some folks you might not have heard of, such as Pattie Maes, Justine Cassell, Ted, Adelson, Neil Gershenfeld, Steve Benton, Sandy Pentland, Roz Picard, and others I can't think of at the moment, have earned MIT tenure, published influential work, and graduated PhD students many of whom teach and train PhDs at well known schools.
Disclaimer: I got my PhD at the Media Lab, but I don't teach or train PhDs at any well-known school. -
Re:Media attentionMy musician friends did say he played quite well, however.
Yep, for a computer scientist, he's an excellent musician, and vice versa.
However, to be an MIT prof, you have to not only publish, but be cited. Most MIT profs have well over 500 citations of their work. Heck, I got my PhD from the Media Lab in recently and I have over 150 cites. Most of the PhDs from my group had 10 or more refereed publications and more like 200 citations by the time they graduate, though our group may have done particularly well (in fact, two of them are junior faculty at the AI lab).
I tried two searches for Hawley's citations, a general one and a specific one. the specific one was way too narrow; it picked up 6 citations. The general one was way too broad; it picked up 314 citations of anyone named Hawley; about 27 of the first 150 cites were for M. or Michael Hawley (BTW, most tenure committees put significant weight on pubs and cites; MIT is no exception, and the Institute denied Professor Hawley's tenure application).
But my point is that there is a pretty objective way to measure the influence of someone's work in science, and by those measures, some groups at the Media Lab do quite well. Please don't overgeneralize: the media whoring of some folks doesn't mean the whole Media Lab is devoted to fluff. -
Re:Media attentionMy musician friends did say he played quite well, however.
Yep, for a computer scientist, he's an excellent musician, and vice versa.
However, to be an MIT prof, you have to not only publish, but be cited. Most MIT profs have well over 500 citations of their work. Heck, I got my PhD from the Media Lab in recently and I have over 150 cites. Most of the PhDs from my group had 10 or more refereed publications and more like 200 citations by the time they graduate, though our group may have done particularly well (in fact, two of them are junior faculty at the AI lab).
I tried two searches for Hawley's citations, a general one and a specific one. the specific one was way too narrow; it picked up 6 citations. The general one was way too broad; it picked up 314 citations of anyone named Hawley; about 27 of the first 150 cites were for M. or Michael Hawley (BTW, most tenure committees put significant weight on pubs and cites; MIT is no exception, and the Institute denied Professor Hawley's tenure application).
But my point is that there is a pretty objective way to measure the influence of someone's work in science, and by those measures, some groups at the Media Lab do quite well. Please don't overgeneralize: the media whoring of some folks doesn't mean the whole Media Lab is devoted to fluff. -
Re:Anyone figured out how to...
IIRC, the Newton has one truly custom chip (which does memory interfacing, DMA, interrupts, timers, A/D for the tablet and so forth).
The kernel makes extensive use of the ARM 610's MMU (especially its domain and sub-page-granularity protection features), so porting the OS to another platform would be quite exciting, but the application (Newtonscript) world is pretty isolated from the wacky stuff going on the OS. You could probably fake-out a fair amount of the OS and the apps would run.
Here's a reference to a paper on the Newton OS that we presented at CompCon in 1994. -
eText -to-speechText-to-speech has come a long way in the last 20 years, but the main thing we're still missing is an effective way of modeling voice inflection -- where the stress goes, basically, so that the entire thing doesn't come out in one dull monotone.
There have been a number of recent advances in concept-to-speech synthesis, which incorporates a sort of map (I'm being very general here) of the semantic concepts in a text and uses that to determine where emphasis should go to make speech sound more natural.
I think there's a lot of promise in fusing this approach with the discourse-representation work of people like Daniel Marcu -- automatically extract the discourse representation, then use that to assign prosody.
Sorry if this is a bit technical -- I do something very similar to it for a living, so it's easy to geek over.
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Re:This is not new
"Stacking" isn't as good as full Bayesian image super-resolution when systematic noise is present; see the theoretical discussion in section 7.5 of Bretthorst's book (he refers to stacking as "averaging"). For a Bayesian method, see this paper, and some of these references.
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Super-resolution
The idea was that you could take a standard resolution video that panned across a scene, and by merging the frames over time create amazingly high resolution images.
The technique is called "super-resolution". Some references:
motion super-resolution, super-resolution in forensic science, super-resolution in astrophotography, "Bayesian Image Super-resolution", "Example-Based Super-Resolution", "Limits on Super-Resolution and How to Break Them". -
Super-resolution
The idea was that you could take a standard resolution video that panned across a scene, and by merging the frames over time create amazingly high resolution images.
The technique is called "super-resolution". Some references:
motion super-resolution, super-resolution in forensic science, super-resolution in astrophotography, "Bayesian Image Super-resolution", "Example-Based Super-Resolution", "Limits on Super-Resolution and How to Break Them". -
Super-resolution
The idea was that you could take a standard resolution video that panned across a scene, and by merging the frames over time create amazingly high resolution images.
The technique is called "super-resolution". Some references:
motion super-resolution, super-resolution in forensic science, super-resolution in astrophotography, "Bayesian Image Super-resolution", "Example-Based Super-Resolution", "Limits on Super-Resolution and How to Break Them". -
Re:Enigma worked by looking like nonsense
The weakest link in any cryptography protocol is the key, reguardless of how big it is.
That's totally incorrect. In fact, the weakest link is almost never the key size. The failure point in protocols often has nothing to do with the security of the underlying cryptographic primative. PGP's file format lead to a break in the PGP system without attacking any of the cryptographic primatives. Similarly, SSL was broken on netscape because of a faulty choice of random number generator. Wep was broken in 802.11b devices due a series of flaws that didn't break the underlying algorithms. Cipher design is very difficult but it's only the easy part. Protocols are a nightmare.
During the cold war some soviet spy's would use an encryption scheme where a single bit of the key would decrypt a single bit of the message, after decryption the bits of the key that were used to decrypt were thrown away. The key had to be huge and it could only be used for a certain number of messages. That type of encryption is called a one time pad, it's nearly impossible to break. The common encryption schemes today like RSA or DES go for reusable keys but you still need to switch your key's every so often.
It is unbreakable but people often sing it's praises and neglect the fact you have to get this key to the other party you want to communicate with. Since the One time pad (OTP) is the *same* size as the plain-text you want to communicate then surely it's just as easy to communicate the actual message? In some cases it's useful, like where you can give someone they pad before they start their covert mission but in a modern internet setting the OTP is useless.
Generally the idea is to make the key as large as possible. There will always be a cap in how large one can go. Limitations in computing power can make the time needed to decrypt a message with a large key unacceptable. Maybe the key needs to fit onto some ealy concealable physical medium, or maybe it needs to be remembered. The idea is to acertain your upper limit and use keys that are that length
Again, another misconception. Bigger keys do not have a huge impact on performance if your using a block cipher. I could make DES use 768-bit keys if I dumped the key schedule and used independant subkeys. It wouldn't improve it's security either. Infact, differential cryptanalysis of DES and it's varient is generally done by assuming the subkeys are independant. Bigger keys do not always equal bigger security.
I stand by my original analysis. Smaller keys are better because they're easier to protect. The only need to be big enough to resist brute-force and there is no use in increasing the size further.
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The Research
If you are interested in the research behind all this, see Chenxi Wang's dissertation. Here's a paper on it. The approach recognizes the fact that security is about raising the bar high enough to make it too much work for hackers. By changing the code on the fly, the hackers have to start reverse engineering it all over again.
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Deobfuscation is in NP
Deobfuscation is in NP. That is, for any type of obfuscation, there is a method to reduce it to a deobfuscated copy. It may take polynomial time, but it can be done.
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Hmm...
I wonder if they've seen the proof of the impossibility of obfuscating programs?
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Re:Wonder if it's Linux boxen?
Also, what is the basis of a search engine?
Well, the paper from 98 that describes the PageRank algorithm (as used by Google) can be found here
Theres a simple explanation of various indexing/ranking schemes here, but if you really want to get up to speed on research into searching the web, try looking at some of the papers from the TREC Web Track
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Re:Linux in cache?
> Caching is controlled completely by the CPU, transparent of the programmer.
That's not true.
> In other words, just trust the CPU. It knows what it's doing :).
Where do you get this from?
Let's say I'm a programmer, and I want to multiply two matrices. If I use the straightforward iterative approach, then this algorithm incurs many cache misses. (I'll leave this as an exercise to the reader, but here's a hint: Choose a cache size n and then pick a matrix dimension x, x > n. Then, try and figure out how many times we'll need to evict data from the cache in order to perform the multiplication and addition operations.)
However, if I use divide each matrix into four pieces, and multiply the pieces recursively, then I can minimize the number of cache misses. Plus, I don't even have to have any algorithm parameters that depend on the cache. The recursive algorithm for multiplying matrices is a cache-oblivious algorithm:
"An algorithm is cache oblivious if no program variables dependent on hardware configuration parameters, such as cache size and cache-line length need to be tuned to minimize the number of cache misses."
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I can finally access the datasphere..... anywhere
Combine this device (with a few upgrades) with Wearable displays + This Jacket (maybe an upgrade or two + a computer that speaks sign language + Pervasive wireless broadband and I am starting to get to my "comfort level" for internet access. No longer will I have to wait during my whole commute of 5 minutes to check for the next Slashdot story. No more shaking internet withdrawl on the bus!!
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Re:I'm impressed.
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Re:Prior ArtIts not the inability of the patent examiners to look for prior art. Just using Google and NEC CitetSeer would help them. It's that they aren't even enouraged to look. It's in the Patent Office interest to grant patents - the more patents they grant the more revenue they get.
There are many more problems too. A good article on the problems with patents, the unworkable solutions and possible solutions can be found in Jeffrey D. Ullman's article Ordinary Skill in the Art
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Re:Best idea behind sleep I've heardI've read about this in neural networks...
The "wake-sleep" algorithm for unsupervised neural networks.
Hinton GE, Dayan P, Frey BJ, Neal RM.
Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
An unsupervised learning algorithm for a multilayer network of stochastic neurons is described. Bottom-up "recognition" connections convert the input into representations in successive hidden layers, and top-down "generative" connections reconstruct the representation in one layer from the representation in the layer above. In the "wake" phase, neurons are driven by recognition connections, and generative connections are adapted to increase the probability that they would reconstruct the correct activity vector in the layer below. In the "sleep" phase, neurons are driven by generative connections, and recognition connections are adapted to increase the probability that they would produce the correct activity vector in the layer above.
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Not to be confused with...
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Re:AI?you mean with genetic programming or with neural networks ?
Nothing a quick search engine couldn't solve...
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Re:Um
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Re:The story behind OSX
If we are talking about device driver comparsion, here is an interesting paper Linux Device Driver Emulation in Mach describing how Mach can use Linux's device driver without changing the device driver code. Mach which powers the Mac OS X is a very flexible micro-kernel OS. A lot of neat trick can be done with it. I wonder if there is an effort in Darwin to bring this enmulation to Darwin.
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Re:Are there any known MD5 collisions today?
I agree with you without a doubt. Although I read the other day that, in 2003, it was estimated that we generated 2 exabytes of data in digital form. That's 2 x 10^18 bytes. 2^64 = 1.844 x 10^19, and with 16 bytes per hash, that's 2.95 x 10^20 bytes required for 2^64 different MD5 hashes. So I guess the storage for this project may exist in the future.
But I'm just being pedantic. In all honesty, who the hell cares? Brute force isn't that exciting, but some mathematical analysis may produce results, see here.
Real men use SHA anyways
;)Cheers,
shadowmatter
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Re:Interesting for now, but when do we get a d.l.?
Something like CiteSeer?
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Re:Page rank in books?