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Cell Phone with Camera = Scanner

An anonymous reader writes "TechJapan has posted a translation of an Impress Watch Article regarding a new technology developed by NEC and the Nara Institute of Science and Technology, that lets people use their cellular phones with cameras as scanners. It says all you have to do is move your phone over the surface of the piece of paper while recording a movie, and the technology (some sort of software I presume) will construct a high resolution image from the individual frames of the video. Here is the original (Japanese) NEC press release." I'd love to see before and afters to see how well this works.

237 comments

  1. that's great but... by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Funny

    does it make phone calls?

    1. Re:that's great but... by SoTuA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's funny, but it also is true. I would love to have a cell phone that is small, nice looking and JUST MAKES CALLS AND STORES ADRESSES! Why must we overpay for tons of features that we don't want or need.

    2. Re:that's great but... by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 3, Informative

      Check out the Samsung A-460. It's pretty small and does all the basics really well. Mine broke and was replaced with a N-400, this big bastard with a color screen. I'm looking for a downgrade.

      Lots of friends have camera phones. I have a camera for taking pictures. Unlike these phones, it captures more than 1 megapixel. When I need to take pictures, I carry it with me.

    3. Re:that's great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got a notebook for addresses. Why should we all overpay for your frivolous address feature?

    4. Re:that's great but... by Jackdaw+Rookery · · Score: 1

      I don't think this should be modded funny, aim for a +5 Insightful. I want my mobile phone to be a phone. Nothing more.

      I want it to make phone calls in a cheap and reliable way, and have some seriously long battery life.

      Is it me or are these phone add-ons just useless tat? The pointless technology you stick in these things the more that can go wrong and the more you can charge the herd that buys them.

    5. Re:that's great but... by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 0, Insightful
      There are plenty of cell phones out there with a minimal feature set as you desire. So if a company can add in another feature that very few people need and make a profit from people who want it, why do you care?

      Let the market dictate what sells - not some demand that phones remain phones and nothing more.

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    6. Re:that's great but... by mirko · · Score: 1

      I'd gladly overpay for this feature if I may also overpay for bluetooth connectivity : unless they make tiny phones with huge keyboards, I'd prefer typing my address on my powerbook and then syncing it to my phone :)

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    7. Re:that's great but... by (trb001) · · Score: 2, Informative

      If I may make a suggestion...I'm on Verizon and just picked up the LG VX3100. It's about as vanilla as they come, dirt cheap (I picked up mine off ebay for $70), stores addresses, has a scheduler and an alarm that you can use or ignore, has a great battery life, is tiny/sleek and looks great.

      --trb

    8. Re:that's great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insightful??? There are plenty of phones that just make calls and store addresses.

    9. Re:that's great but... by The+Salamander · · Score: 1

      I've been searching for a new phone for 2.5 years now. I am willing to switch providers.

      Unfortunately, nobody offers a phone that I want. Certainly nothing better than the phone I bought 5 years ago.

      It may be a niche market, but I'm a customer actively looking to spend money, but nobody wants to sell to me.

    10. Re:that's great but... by Jackdaw+Rookery · · Score: 1

      Well, perhaps there are by you. I know for certain there are not by me. Even the basic ones sold by the supermarkets here (Tesco for example) are WAP, polyphonic, MP3 and so on.

      The market hasn't provided for me just wanting a basic phone. The market isn't a magical entity that provides for all so it's worth me stating my case; I'd like an uncluttered, cheap, and reliable phone please. Stop with the pointless addons.

      But then looking at your sig I shouldn't be replying to you at all.

    11. Re:that's great but... by K3lvin · · Score: 1

      I would love to have a cell phone that is small, nice looking and JUST MAKES CALLS AND STORES ADRESSES!

      Hell I've never understood people complaining about this. Yes, there are ALOT of phones which are small, nice looking and just make calls and stores addresses. And they are incrediply cheap, you can get old cell phones virtually for free. Who the hell is stopping you buying one.

      Why must we overpay for tons of features that we don't want or need.

      No-one's forcing you. Get an old cell phone. And there's a lot of people who like these new features and are willing to pay for them (including me).

    12. Re:that's great but... by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 1

      Two things:
      - The link provided says it has short battery life, and
      - It says the price is as low as $59 depending on the plan?

      I know you US-folks are incapable of having a monogamous network for some reason or another, and that therefore phone-types can be bound to a provider, but in Holland, at least, cellphones are almost all available for free, depending on the plan. A vanilla device like this would be free even with a 1-yr el cheapo subscription.

      Mid-range subscriptions of about 20 euro's a month (including about 100-200 'free' minutes) even get Samsung E700's for free, or S300 (similar size to this one you posted, and with a LOT more features).

      When you're picking up a phone without any ties, I understand wanting a cheap and decent one, but why not get the camera and color screen(s) and radio's as well when you can?

    13. Re:that's great but... by Ian+Wolf · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know of all the things we export to other nations: McDonald's, David Hasselhoff, and obnoxious tourists, we should have sent you the Federal Communications Commission, The US Patent Office, and Carrot Top.

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    14. Re:that's great but... by sangdrax · · Score: 1

      Sigh. There are tons of simple and cheap phones and you know it. Even non-mobile phones are still produced and sold every day. Noone is forcing you to buy this product.

      If you don't like technological progress, don't read slashdot. Or does 'because we can' only apply to some useless hobby open source project?

      Technology creates uses which in turn inspires technology. If not, we'd be in the stone age still, clubbing bears/women and dragging them to our caves.

    15. Re:that's great but... by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 4, Insightful


      I seriously doubt that you are *overpaying* for features.

      Compare the situation to PC hard drives: You can get a 120GB HD for something like $80. That's like $0.67/GB. By that logic, if you only wanted a new 10GB HD, you should be able to get one for $7, right? But you can't. There's about a $30-35 minimum outlay for a harddrive. Once manufacturers have the basics in place, adding extra/bigger platters in almost *free.*

      Near about the same thing with phones. You can probably get a barebones, does nothing but make calls and store numbers cell phone for about $75. But since all the electronic components are already there, they can easily add in a gazillion sotware features for very little $$ and charge $100 for it, which they vast majority of people will pay for.

    16. Re:that's great but... by (trb001) · · Score: 1

      The link provided says it has short battery life

      I know, I don't know what they're talking about, though. I routinely go 2-3 days without charging and with moderate use; my phone hasn't run out of juice yet.

      cellphones are almost all available for free, depending on the plan

      So are ours, but we also typically get locked into a 1-2 year plan when we buy phones. In my case, I lost my phone 6 months into the plan and didn't have a warranty on it, so I had to replace it. All the prices you see on the Verizon Wireless site are with a plan...the price jumps by about $200 without a plan. I could get a considerably better phone than the one I have with a plan, but already having plan, that wasn't an option. Speaking of 'better' phones, that leads me to...

      but why not get the camera and color screen(s) and radio's as well when you can? ...another post I just wrote was about where I work. The firm I subcontract to won't let any phones with cameras into secure areas (which, in most cases, is the entire building). As a company policy, you must check your camera phone with the guard *every day* on non-secure contracts. This is a pain, I'd rather just have a good, dependable telephone, sans camera + frills, that I don't have to routinely check with the guard.

      --trb

    17. Re:that's great but... by clark625 · · Score: 1

      You know, I also hate all the "extra" features that mobile phones seem to have now. We, as cunsumers and /.ers feel that it's silly to have something that's just marginal at many things when it could just be super at one and only one thing.

      Okay--that's not how designers are thinking. The problem with phone design is that most people's hands are within a certian range of sizes. The same is (mostly) true with the size of people's heads. A phone just has to be comfortable for its use, and while there are lots of different styles, most are roughly the same width and length (when opened if it's a flip-phone). You can get away with thinner and lighter, though, but even that can be tricky.

      So, the designers look at all the space they have to do things with. You typically only select so much battery power to give a day or twos usage to keep the weight down. The processor is capable of handling lots of features. The circuit board itself isn't horribly populated because most things are handling inside each specific chip. Most companies look at these issues and say "why not?". The cost for adding these features for a phone isn't terrible, and if it gets more people to buy the phone, so much the better.

      Granted, I just want a mobile phone that has awesome reception. I can't say that I would want to use any camera in my phone--but if it's included anyway, it certainly isn't going to make me upset.

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    18. Re:that's great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude-- seriously. "A LOT" is two words. Would you say ALITTLE?

    19. Re:that's great but... by jmays · · Score: 1

      My A-460 went through a washing maching and dropped off of a two-story bridge ... it still works ... although, the screen is a little dull ;)

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    20. Re:that's great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's this "Noone" guy, and why is he forcing me to buy this product?

    21. Re:that's great but... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      software features added into alreay capable devices, such as this, don't necessarely 'cost' you anything.

      it has come to the point where you pay a bit less because you don't want extra features and the manufacturer intentionally limits the functionality already in the device(this has been partly the case in videos, tv's and other devices for _years_. the functionality is in there because of manufacturing reasons but you didn't pay to activate it. like the cruise speed controls in modern cars, the functionality is entirely in software, and is available in every model, and needs just few buttons, yet you can choose not to have it active and pay a bit less. this is a totally retarded situation in my opinion).

      you know, you can use older phones or buy models like nokia 1100, which are more or less intentionally limited in the sense that they could have added few bells and whistles without bringing up the manufacturing price.

      what i'm intrested is in is if this tech is available on as a program for current phones(for, let's say, symbian series60). I got no quarrel about extra functionality that is just pieces of software that I can use to ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THE DEVICE AFTER PURCHASE(sometimes even for _free_, or by yourself if you like to tinker around and code your own newsfeed grabber or whatever).

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    22. Re:that's great but... by Quay42 · · Score: 1

      Most carriers have their "free with activation" phone (or more than one). Why pay for a separate phone if you're happy with the standard one? Some people want all the bells and whistles and are willing to pay for them (not me, personally). More power to them.

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    23. Re:that's great but... by Yurian · · Score: 1

      Nokia 8850, small cute phone that is nothing but functional

    24. Re:that's great but... by jandrese · · Score: 1

      All I want is a builtin phonebook (like all phones have), and (most importantly) a very good radio path. So many phones these days seem to have really crummy radios that loose the signal far too soon as you leave the cell.

      Unfortunatly, it's very hard to test how good the radio is in the store, and no manufacturer seems to advertise the radio features at all. What good a 320x240 full color screen and web browsing capabilities if the signal strength goes to 0 when you walk inside?

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    25. Re:that's great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate conservative. If you are a conservative, fuck off and die.

    26. Re:that's great but... by Tetsujin28 · · Score: 1
      My A-460 went through a washing maching and dropped off of a two-story bridge ... it still works ... although, the screen is a little dull ;)

      Weird, man. Why were you doing your laundry on top of a bridge?

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    27. Re:that's great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but it's banned in every major business in the world just as camera phones are.
      Just walking into many corporations in the U.S. with any type of camera or a device like this would loose you any contract for security reasons.
      I've seen people quake in fear of loosing their jobs because they didn't understand these rules.
      If your one of those geeks that has to have the latest and greatest just walk in and loose your lucrative contract.
      Actually, many places won't even let you carry in any cellphone as it may disrupt running equipment.
      I guess you can justify taking down a million dollar per hour computerized production line because of your $100.00 cell phone. A production line that takes 4 to 5 hrs. to bring back up from scratch.

    28. Re:that's great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh! Mister Feature want to store addresses! Wooptydoo, it's a phone you know. next you'll want to use it to take pictures too! ...

      D'oh!

    29. Re:that's great but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a good point, but I think the problem is that while adding these new "features", it tends to leave the quality and ease of use of the PHONE part of the phone somewhat wanting.

    30. Re:that's great but... by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      The only problem with this is if you put your camera point-blank on the paper, there won't be sufficient light (I mean, under the camera would be pitch black as its sitting on the paper)

      That'd be a problem.. That is why scanners have that bright light that scrolls accross as it takes a picture.

  2. And I wonder when... by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can make phonecalls with my scanner?

    1. Re:And I wonder when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      its called a fax machine.

    2. Re:And I wonder when... by good(k)night · · Score: 3, Funny

      Cell Phone + Camera = Scanner.
      Scanner - Camera = Cell Phone?

      I can make calls from my scanner, unless I have a camera.

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  3. Ocr? by rotciv86 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why make a hi-res image, why not just OCR it? That could probably even be done on the phone. Then you could email or send it as a plain text document, much smaller file size then an image.

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    1. Re:Ocr? by kuiken · · Score: 1

      because ocr is useless if you want to scan a diagram, picture ...

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    2. Re:Ocr? by Mwongozi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because it might not be text?

    3. Re:Ocr? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      OCR is overrated still. It's not that accurate, and needs more processing power than your cell phone has on board. It's still not ready for primetime.

    4. Re:Ocr? by BJH · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because OCRing Japanese text is a lot more difficult than with English text?

      I'm not kidding - there are Japanese OCR apps, but the accuracy is way below English OCR unless you're using a really good page image.

    5. Re:Ocr? by swordboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well...

      This has other uses... I've thought about it before. Like shooting panoramas. Stick the camera in the air... push the button and rotate.

      Voila.. panorama!

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    6. Re:Ocr? by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wouldn't OCR be more difficult in Japanese than english? With english many letters are required to create a single word, thus if individual letters are not properly recognized they can still be determined by their context within both the word and the entire sentence.

      In Japanese there are fewer symbols per word, many more symbols to choose from, and symbols that contain much more detail.

      So I would think OCR in Japanese would be many times more difficult than OCR in english.

      Finally, you now have a phone that is only useful for scanning Japanese. If it acted like a real scanner then it would be useful for any language.

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    7. Re:Ocr? by Threni · · Score: 1

      How much would it cost to use magnetic ink, rather than normal ink, like on cheques?

    8. Re:Ocr? by Canuckanuck · · Score: 1

      Now wouldn't it be nice if the scanned image could be OCR'd, but with a twist - a scenic picture is converted to a paragraph describing its detail, then text-messaged to your friend of choice. This would work especially well for pr0n and new sack-mates...

    9. Re:Ocr? by ajs · · Score: 1

      Actually, that would be a viable second step, but in order to OCR you're going to have to start with some sense of where the characters are on the document, so assembling and scale/perspecitive correcting the document as an image is a valid first step.

    10. Re:Ocr? by jovlinger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The key idea here is that several lo-res pix (recall that a camera phone can barely take vga still, and the movie modes will be even less impressive) can be recombined to make one hi-res picture.

      You basically have to figure out where each lo-res picture goes and place it into the hi-res document. If you are careful, you can place several overlapping pictures with sub-(lo-res)-pixel accuracy, letting you increase the resolution even more. You use the fact that you have high accuracy in the time domain to help you out in the spatial domain.

      This will probably be done out-of-camera.

    11. Re:Ocr? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my phone, an SH-505i made by Sharp, does do limited OCR for English characters. It can do a single line of text, and you can specify whether you are scanning a URL (which you can then browse to after scanning), a phone number (which you can then dial or store after scanning), an email address (which you can store or send mail to), or just English text. This feature hasn't proven to be very useful other than the novelty value of it. I'm sure there are other models which do even more, since I bought this one last summer.

    12. Re:Ocr? by jafuser · · Score: 1

      Well if they can get the algorithm into hardware that can fit inside a pen, why not a phone? =)

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    13. Re:Ocr? by jafuser · · Score: 1

      It may not be all that much more difficult. Japanese grammar is much more formulaic and has fewer exceptions than English writing. It might be easier to write an algorithm to get a contextual hint at characters which are difficult to resolve.

      However, this probably balances out with what you described so that both languages are probably roughly equally difficult problems to solve for OCR.

      Now as for speech recognition, I'd have to assume that Japanese would be much easier to recognize since there are a clear set of syllables, and inherent timing dependencies in pronunciation. Add that to the more formulaic grammar, and I'd have to be fairly confident that Japanese is easier to write a speech recognition algorithm for.

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    14. Re:Ocr? by Destoo · · Score: 1

      Japanese kids these days are using their cell phones to scan articles in magazines and not pay for them.

      I'd doubt that the magazine publishers would move to magnetic ink just for them.

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    15. Re:Ocr? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read barcodes and count the cans on a shelf in a supermarket?

  4. Old tech by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember seeing news about Japanese scanner pens (smaller than any cell phone nowadays) that would let you write with it, OCR scan text, and it store the text. I don't have a link right now because I'm lazy. But those were a few hundred dollars back then - maybe eight years ago.

    This is probably just a combination of that technology (which never took off here) and the cell phone feature craze.

    1. Re:Old tech by indigeek · · Score: 1

      I wonder what they do about lighting?
      On a scanner there is a nice powerful backlight which runs around the bottom of the page to let the scanner read properly. On a pen I suppose there is not much ambient light blocked. But on a cellphone, you are going to obstruct almost all the light if you hold it close to the camera.
      Maybe you have to hold the paper against the sunlight and then put the phone on the otherside

      And also I hope none of those guys who go around photocopying their asses get hold of these thingies. The effects would be ...umm... messaging horrors

    2. Re:Old tech by emilng · · Score: 1

      Most cell phones that I've seen have pretty bright backlights on their LCD displays.

    3. Re:Old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, I remember seeing those goofy hi-lighter pens in Japan the last time I was there... in '88. I'm pretty sure it didn't have OCR capability though. You would scan text slooowly (printed text) by rolling the head of the pen over the text. Afterwards, you would slowly roll the pen over a blank sheet of paper and it would "print" the image/text onto your blank for you. I thought it was pretty cool when I was a kid but in all honesty it was an exercise in patience. I'm sure my uncle has one lying around somewhere if he hasn't tossed it already.

    4. Re:Old tech by pacc · · Score: 2, Informative

      C-pen works like this, the pen takes images of the book and reconstructs the line of text without any wheels needed. So any patents on this technology must be old by now.

      However, c-pen takes this one step further and does OCR on it internally resulting in text only output.
      I know they have tried to sell in their technology to mobile phone manufacturers, seeing great opportunities in the built-in cameras, though I suspect NEC could do it in software anyway and C-pen since has had better success with bluetooth connected pens that are more intutive to use together with your phone instead of trying to make the phone do something it was not meant to do.

  5. Here's the text of the article by laird · · Score: 3, Informative

    NEC and the Nara Institute of Science and Technology have cooperated to develop technology which allows for phones with cameras - even low resolution cameras - to act as scanners, by having users move their camera over the surface of the page.

    NEC and the Nara Institute of Science and Technology have devloped technology which uses movie recordings to produce high quality images, on par with those of a scanner. This technology will be aimed atcellular phones and video cameras.

    The technique involves recording a part of the subject to a movie, while moving the camera; the "Mosaicing Technology" analyzes the moving image and estimates the three-dimensional position of the subject, and under the supervision of the "Ultra Resolution Technology," the joining points of the image are deleted, thereby optimizing it so that even low resolution cameras can produce scanner like output. In other words, even cellular phones and video cameras can produce high quality images.

    Up until now, there were certain cameras that contained equipment to turn low quality images into high quality ones, but this technology marks the first time that this sort of technique can be accomplished with existing equipment. For example, a high quality image can be produced of an A4 size sheet of paper from video cameras currently on the market.

    Inspired by:
    http://k-tai.impress.co.jp/cda/article/news_t oppag e/17729.html

    News Release:
    http://www.nec.co.jp/press/ja/0402/2303. html

    1. Re:Here's the text of the article by laird · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I remember many, many years ago seeing people working on this sort of thing at the MIT Media Lab. The idea was that you could take a standard resolution video that panned across a scene, and by merging the frames over time create amazingly high resolution images. I remember motion being tricky to deal with (as in, things moving in the scene) because it would either confuse the algorithm that tried to figure out exactly where the camera was pointed for each frame, or cause things to blur. But if you panned across a landscape, the result was an amazingly high quality image.

    2. Re:Here's the text of the article by martingunnarsson · · Score: 1

      This sounds really cool. Do you have any idea if there are any applications like this today?

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    3. Re:Here's the text of the article by G-funk · · Score: 1

      Balls to using low-res movies though, I'd like to be able to take 5-6 shots of a scene with my 4.1Mp camera, and have similar software get more details just from the slight movements of the camera in my hands, even if it simply added detail at the same resolution, it'd be awesome technology... Of course the next step would be cameras that do this themselves, with a 32mbish high speed ram buffer to hold several full-res images taken in rapid succession...

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    4. Re:Here's the text of the article by squaretorus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This kind of thing would be excellent fun - and have some pretty neat practical uses too.

      Until it becomes part of one of the iApps on a Mac I doubt it will be at all intuitive to use - so it wont be!

      My dream application of this kind of thing? Pan around with a video camera semi randomly within a scene for an arbitrary period of time and have a bit of software capture this and 3D model the scene so you can walk about in there with very high resolutions. Any blind spots could later be refined with new video from a new location in the scene.

      THATS why I'll be buying my 20GHz PVIII with a TB of RAM.

    5. Re:Here's the text of the article by jovlinger · · Score: 1

      I've been playing with ideas on how to do this. It's slightly more difficult than the movie mode, as you don't have the exact frame rate to help you out. If you could get a camera with a known continuous mode, that would help.

      For the still case, look into the medical imaging litterature: under image registration.

    6. Re:Here's the text of the article by La+Gris · · Score: 4, Interesting

      AS a visually impaired person born with a loke low resolution retina. I can say that I used this ton compensate my disability to see details if not near enough.

      My brain compensated this by applying a continous eye movment (nystagmus). This allow my brain to get several low resolution moving pictures and be able to compute the missing sharpness and details.

      Many born visually impaired have this nystagmus as some compensation.

      I'am glad this become a mathematically and scientifically analyzed process. This is great it get some practical use. This remind me of the pictur analysis and filtering applyed to Hubble when it was known is main mirror could not focus correctly.

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    7. Re:Here's the text of the article by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      You might be able to eliminate blurring with a lens aparatus to increase light gather and a strobe (perhaps an IR strobe for working in normal conditions without driving people bananas -- not sure whether we have IR sources that can strobe yet).

      Another possibility -- if you *know* that you're going to be using the camera for video capture, and cost isn't an issue, you can put high-quality accelerometers and other angle and position-locating devices into the thing.

    8. Re:Here's the text of the article by imroy · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should check out ALE then.

    9. Re:Here's the text of the article by davek99999 · · Score: 0

      There are digital cameras that convert and stitch pictures into Quicktime VR -- it's not great, really, and the quality isn't terribly high, but there is a novelty factor to being able to make 3-D representations of familiar areas.

    10. Re:Here's the text of the article by jsebrech · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not quite that, but this guy seems to have taken the concept of stitching low-res high-zoom photo's together to get high-res to a new level.

    11. Re:Here's the text of the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You can do it now with a DV camcorder, a pc and a software package called SnapDV.

    12. Re:Here's the text of the article by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Actually the best way to do this probably involves having a camera with a laser rangefinder, and placing the camera in several known positions. One way to locate it in known positions is with surveyor's equipment. Another would be to install some sort of corrected gyroscope system in the camera, but you still need to get the X and Y axes dealt with (as a draftsman names them, not a computer artist.)

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    13. Re:Here's the text of the article by Hast · · Score: 1

      In my experience the hardest part is figuring out how the camera has moved between the images. With a video this is "easy" since the distance is typically short. With freely taken images is can vary between very hard and impossible.

      Making a system which makes it easy for the user to imput their knowledge is probably the best way to spend effort.

    14. Re:Here's the text of the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Iv'e seen this too.

      It was one of those wearable computer projects.

      He wore a small computer, a camera on his head, and a transparent LCD display over his eye, keyboard was one of those chord hand held type.

      The camera was situated so that it would take pictures from eyelevel, and all he had to do was move his head to capture a panorama type image.

      The data was taken back to school, where it was processed by some big computer (I'm thinking an SGI Origin(2)?), and you could easily end up with an image in the 4000^2 pixels range, though he only supplied very low resolution versions.

      And it worked pretty good, except the motion thing you mention.

    15. Re:Here's the text of the article by george515 · · Score: 1

      Try SnapDV from SnapDV.com. Converts AVIs into panoramas. Free demo too.

    16. Re:Here's the text of the article by G-funk · · Score: 1

      Sweet as, I'll try that out tonight when I get home from work, cheers!

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  6. In related news by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stay tuned for the explosive shockumentary, where we demonstrate how two tin cans and a piece of string make for a handy alternative to VoIP.

  7. Vinyl by eap · · Score: 1, Funny

    I wonder if you can use it to rip tracks from vinyl records, as described in this Slashdot article.

    1. Re:Vinyl by heikkih · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think you mean this Slashdot article instead.

    2. Re:Vinyl by nempo · · Score: 1

      If you cared to actually examine the article that you so hastly linked to you'd notice that it's not about scanning the lp but recording from the line-in.

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    3. Re:Vinyl by eap · · Score: 1
      I think you mean this Slashdot article instead.

      I'll fix it when the dupe comes around.

  8. One way or the other it's coming. by ahfoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whether some trick like this makes it happen sooner rather than later only time will tell, but eventually just in terms of raw resolution camera equipped cell phones will be functional full-color scanners.
    And this is where things get interesting because fair use permits compies of material in the library for research. But if enough students scan journals at high resolution and then organize and exchange them through the Net, there will be an enormous levelling of the academic playing field. That is a time I look forward to with eager anticipation.

    1. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by PollGuy · · Score: 1

      But if enough students scan journals at high resolution and then organize and exchange them through the Net, there will be an enormous levelling of the academic playing field.

      Uh, it's already level. The whole point of a library is that it offers public information and education, not reserved for the academics or "haves." You can go and find any journal or other material you want, and so can Jo Blo. The only limiting factor is that people don't realize it's there for the taking, and throw up their hands if something's not on Google.

    2. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by Ieshan · · Score: 1

      Live in or near Boston? Come to Tufts or Harvard, the libraries are completely open and free for anyone who wants to browse and photocopy material.

      You need no account to search or request help. Much of the material is online, and they'll already scan and send you articles.

      See Iliad at http://www.library.tufts.edu

    3. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      The playing field isn't level because some remote schools have badly-stocked libraries and insufficient donations to upgrade their libraries. This means that wealthier, more famous schools like Harvard or Oxford can remain on top for research, because their graduate students have proper libraries while Boring State University will forever be known as a do-nothing, no-research, no-breakthroughs school because their students don't have the necessary facilities. Free exchange of information would help to remedy that.

    4. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you live in Boston, the playing field is level. I grant you that.
      Now, let's say you live in Kunming, China. Is the playing field level there?
      How about in Chiapas, Mexico?
      How's the playing field looking in Burma these days? Things are just like Boston in Indonesia, right? And Peru is almost identical to Boston. In fact, most countries in Africa are very similar to Boston.
      Mmm hmm. Typical.

    5. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by ncr53c8xx · · Score: 1
      eventually just in terms of raw resolution camera equipped cell phones will be functional full-color scanners.

      This is very likely in view of the rapid advances in phone tech. However, cell phones are an incredibly restrictive environment and DRM efforts are well under way. People are already used to paying for stuff life cell phones. Remember the do not copy symbols in ads which prevent photoshopping? Expect the same kind of thing to show up everywhere. And there are no open source phones.

    6. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DRM efforts have been well under way throughout the latter half of the twentieth century. The myth is that the tech industry is a monolithic entity that's out to control the consumer. The fact is that the tech industry is only monolithic about making a profit by any means. This is the fatal problem with DRM. There will always be groups of players who will agree to DRM and there will always be others who try to make a profit by selling products that use open standards which sidestep the DRM. When Creative brought out their first MP3 player almost everyone on Slashdot assumed the company would be sued out of existence in no time. The fear of DRM is little more than superstition. People will always try it, and it will always work to a degree but it will never work as long as there is a profit to be made in circumventing it by making products with open standards. Look at Wind River's recent 180.

    7. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      However, cell phones are an incredibly restrictive environment

      Perhaps you can think of ways that cell phones are restrictive, but here's a headline from the front page of Today's EETimes.

      GSMA chiefs stress open standards as phone users top 1 billion

    8. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by ncr53c8xx · · Score: 1
      The fear of DRM is little more than superstition. People will always try it, and it will always work to a degree but it will never work as long as there is a profit to be made in circumventing it by making products with open standards.

      Well, the big question is, who will fight against DRM? In you take DVD players, you will need to choose some obscure player in order to skip ads and other annoying "features". The mainstream ones do not provide such backdoors, and cannot be flashed like, say, the Apex player.

      Who is making software to protect your fair use rights? Small companies which get shut down by courts, bought and paid for. The tech companies are willing to bend over backwards for the content cartels, because the cartels are the movers. The content cartels form public opinion, and unless the public is willing to take a stand, the default will be DRM everywhere.

    9. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by ncr53c8xx · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Perhaps you can think of ways that cell phones are restrictive, but here's a headline from the front page of Today's EETimes.

      The article talks about having a single OS ala MS. To see what the cell phone companies are actually doing, see this article. As you can see, they want to impose even more DRM on the consumers. And once the DRM has been implemented in the single chip phones, there is virtually nothing you can do about it. One factor is that due to the closed nature of these systems, the cell companies can get into the action (selling ring tones etc.). As it stands, they have even more of an incentive to lock down the systems.

    10. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by blincoln · · Score: 1

      And this is where things get interesting because fair use permits compies of material in the library for research. But if enough students scan journals at high resolution and then organize and exchange them through the Net, there will be an enormous levelling of the academic playing field. That is a time I look forward to with eager anticipation.

      I think you are misunderstanding the rights that fair use gives you. Just because someone is a student doesn't mean they can suddenly duplicate entire journals and share them with their friends.

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    11. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1
      And there are no open source phones.

      However, firmware patches are occassionally available for download. Many things have a workaround. Phones these days run on things like Arm controllers, with documented instruction sets; firmware can be disassembled and modified.

      The next step will be cryptographically signing the firmware, so the cellphone refuses to accept unofficial firmwares. The question is how difficult it will be to convince the phone to not do the check, or if/how it will be possible to desolder the Flash right from the phone board and reprogram it in a standalone programmer. Also, it's possible not all manufacturers will do the signed-firmware thing, as unsigned firmware may be a big market advantage under such conditions; especially smaller Asian manufacturers could benefit from this. And maybe one of them even opens the source of at least parts of the firmware...

    12. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1
      The public takes stand with every Apex player bought, with every player dezoned under the table in a shady shop, with every Xbox chipped. On a higher level, with every homemade device built.

      The content cartels aren't the single source of information for the public, however they would like to. A word of mouth can travel quickly in the cubicle space, especially when people tend to brag about special functions their chipped underground-market device can do.

      The bad thing is that DRM is bound to be everywhere. The good thing is that there will be workarounds. The ugly thing is that everybody will be a criminal - but at least there won't be so many people saying they don't have anything to hide from 'Bro.

    13. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by ncr53c8xx · · Score: 1
      The next step will be cryptographically signing the firmware, so the cellphone refuses to accept unofficial firmwares. The question is how difficult it will be to convince the phone to not do the check, or if/how it will be possible to desolder the Flash right from the phone board and reprogram it in a standalone programmer.

      This is not particularly difficult to implement. Already many computer controlled hardware devices employ a challenge response system. See the this car story for example.

      Also, it's possible not all manufacturers will do the signed-firmware thing, as unsigned firmware may be a big market advantage under such conditions; especially smaller Asian manufacturers could benefit from this.

      Small Asian manufacturers are easy to sue to oblivion (eg. Lik Sang). What use is the unsigned firmware if you are unable to sell them?

    14. Re:One way or the other it's coming. by ncr53c8xx · · Score: 1
      The public takes stand with every Apex player bought, with every player dezoned under the table in a shady shop, with every Xbox chipped.

      This is what the public should do. However, it remains to be seen if most people are willing to go through with this.

      The content cartels aren't the single source of information for the public, however they would like to.

      Never underestimate the power of the traditional media. Whenever I meet someone who claims I otherwise I like to point them here.

  9. Virtual Wide Angle Lenses? by jobbegea · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It only mentions paper as the object to take a picture of, but it might also work for objects further away. This could solve the problem of the often very narrow angle lenses those tiny cameras have.
    Stitching multiple images automatically is nothing new but is CPU intensive. So Moore's law will take care of that.

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    1. Re:Virtual Wide Angle Lenses? by enosys · · Score: 1
      Well, you can take a bunch of images and when you get home connect them with something like REALVIZ Stitcher. That seems to be the best application for this sort of thing though it is pricey. It can do a good job even without a tripod but if there are nearby things in the photos you do need to be quite careful to hold the camera in the same position. The software has tools to cover up errors from movement or parallax.

      Note that this is a different thing from the one mentioned in the article. To do this you keep the camera at one point and rotate it, prefferably around the nodal point of the lens. To do the thing described in the article you keep it pointed in the same direction and at the same distance from the page and move it around.

      REALVIZ Stitcher and some other panorama programs can also stitch togeather images of a flat object, like the article describes, but you must make sure that the camera remains at the same distance from the page and pointed in the same direction. I think some sort of stand is required. Hopefully with this new software you can get good results without a stand.

    2. Re:Virtual Wide Angle Lenses? by jobbegea · · Score: 1

      The difference between rotating around a point and moving along a line is just relevant for the kind of transformation you need to apply to the pictures to line them up.
      When moving over a piece of paper you also need to take into account scaling (to compensate for the distance to the object) and tilting (when the camera is not kept at the same angle).
      The more degrees of freedom you have with the camera to more computing power is needed to fix it.
      Scanning a single piece of paper into a single image is just one application. This is just a very CPU and Memory intensive task. More memory means pictures can overlap more, more CPU means more camera jitter can be compensated and the end result is a higher quality picture

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  10. Wouldn't it be fun to watch? by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 2, Funny

    All the people standing in front of some national icon (e.g. Liberty Bell, Eiffel Tower, Big Ben) waving their phones at each other... that could make tourists even *more* amusing!

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  11. presumptious by random_rabbit · · Score: 1
    So the image is scanned using "some sort of software I presume"

    Computers can do that?

    1. Re:presumptious by Robmonster · · Score: 1, Funny

      Never presume anything.

      It just makes a Pres out of U and Me.

      No, wait.....

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  12. This is nothing new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    People have been scanning photos for years, even with digital cameras. My digital camera has a USB connector in it, and using /dev/usb and gocr, I Have OCR'd over 2000 pages of work using Linux.

    I submitted a slashdot article about it 5 years ago, after a bit of AVing, a found the Link

    Read the story here

    1. Re:This is nothing new... by Bubblehead · · Score: 1

      The difference is that the phone will create an aggregate image from the multiple frames of the movie with a resulting higher resolution. Also, the camera will NOT use OCR. That's different from what you describe (using one frame at regular resolution, and running OCR software on it).

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    2. Re:This is nothing new... by arabagast · · Score: 0

      but hey, a movie is still just a serie of still images, and can easily be be stripped into single frames wich then can be used with excisting software that does the excact same thing as this "new and flashy technology".

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  13. Problem before? by neiffer · · Score: 2, Informative

    And magazine publishers (especially in Japan!) thought they had problems before with pirating articles...perhaps this is another forced movement towards changing the way we see and envision publishing content.

  14. Old news by EulerX07 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sure James Bond and MacGiver have been doing this very technique for quite some time now.

    1. Re:Old news by IncarnadineConor · · Score: 0

      MacGiver? is that a goatse.cx reference?

    2. Re:Old news by arabagast · · Score: 0

      Photoshop actually has a built-in tool to make these kind of photos, so actually this is rather old news (allthough it deals with still frames, but I can`t see a very big problem converting a movie clip into single frame pictures and then running it through photoshops "panorama maker"). So, it`s sort of been done.

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    3. Re:Old news by RedShoeRider · · Score: 1

      It's MacGyver, you insensitive clod!

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  15. optical tracking by sreid · · Score: 1

    they could also fit the phone with an optical scanner like the ones found in optical mice and log where the phone is on the sheet, this would probably make it easier to rebuild the entire page

  16. Security Alert! by erick99 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Remember when some folks couldn't take Furby toys to work because of their ability to record or whatever and that made them a security risk? I wonder if this phone that can scan documents might not prompt the same sort of thing in some places. Hey, it could happen....

    Take care!

    Erick

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    1. Re:Security Alert! by BReflection · · Score: 1

      This is already happening. Here in the military they are forming rules that will dissalow cell phone cameras.

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    2. Re:Security Alert! by (trb001) · · Score: 1

      Already, where I work we can't carry phones that have cameras on them without declaring them to the guards when we come in *every day*. I happen to work in a government facility, but it's not cleared...this policy is standard throughout the contracting firm that I'm sub'd to. In SCIF'd environments, no cell phones at all.

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    3. Re:Security Alert! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where I work, cell phone cameras aren't allowed, period. (This is not a government or military facility.)

    4. Re:Security Alert! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I don't remember that, and it's especially funny because furbys don't record. They have a counter which is incremented when certain events occur and that is used to cause them to "learn" by unlocking new behaviors.

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  17. Been done before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    A few years back a company had the same sort of software that used panning video from a DV camera to create wide-angle/fully panoramic images. It was extrememly smart and fast. I doubt anything truly new is being done here. Of course, I'd kill to have this on my 3650.

  18. How is "over the surface" defined? by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is one thing that is not clear yet: How far away is "over the surface"? I mean, looking at a piece of paper from 1 meter distance is "over the surface", but I doubt it will get a high-res picture on a cell-phone camera. If I get closer to the thing I want to scan, then the field of vision is getting smaller. At the end that means that a cell-phone camera laying on the piece of paper that it should scan will only "see" a very small part of the image. So if I have to move it along to get the whole image, I'll be busy for a while, the data stream will be quite big and if I'm unlucky the camera shadow will darken my scanned movie. If I scan from a distance of lets say 10 cm away then the question is how much influence a variation of this distance will have to the result. And how I know that I got all details of the picture. And when the camera memory is exceeded. :-)

    1. Re:How is "over the surface" defined? by rco3 · · Score: 1

      The whole point - the entire point - of this technique is that it DOES get a hi-res image from a lo-res camera. Not by making you put the lens real close and then stitching together all these medium-res images, but by sort of "averaging" a large number of images of the entire page. So yes, it gets a hi-res image from a lo-res image.

      You *did* RTFA, right?

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    2. Re:How is "over the surface" defined? by vrtsdaemon · · Score: 1

      I still can't imagine how the horrible cameras built into cell. 'phones are going to manage to capture good-quality images. They may be able to do high-resolution through some "Ultra Resolution Stitching Technology" (I know that's not the correct term they used, but it sounds like a buzzword to me, and they convey pretty much the same thing), but I doubt that they'll make quality images (correct lighting, contrast, colours, etc. are hard to pull off with such a shitty lense.

    3. Re:How is "over the surface" defined? by rco3 · · Score: 1

      Crap lens could be a problem.

      However, I think you're still thinking in terms of making a nice image from stitching together several images. That's not what's going on here.

      They're taking several views of the same thing and using them to synthesize a better image of the actual subject. Out of focus, poor resolution, poor contrast - these are factors which the software corrects for.

      See, the point is that the cell phone camera doesn't capture the image. The software essentially "creates" the image, based on information about the subject gleaned from the movie file.

      Moreover, the point of this project is not to make hi-res images. It's to make hi-res scans.

      I'm sure it's easier to make these sorts of super-resolution images from a camera which produces nice images to start with. The point is, though, that it can produce nice scans from poor cameras.

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    4. Re:How is "over the surface" defined? by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 1
      You *did* RTFA, right?

      Yes I did. And I'm still convinced that even taking a thousand images in low-res that all show the entire page can't be "averaged" to a hi-res image. If that statement would be true we wouldn't need to have expensive optical instruments, it would be enough to make a large number of low-res images and "average" them to get any resolution you want... Just imagine spy satellites, we equip them with a cheap cell phone camera and we make a lot of images and then.. voila we can read a newspaper from the sky. No my friend, that's nonsense.

    5. Re:How is "over the surface" defined? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your "logic" is invalid. True, you can't get arbitrarily high resolution just by taking enough low-res images. But you can get some improvement in resolution, which does partially compensate for limitations in optics, etc. Just read any of the numerous links in the comments here, showing actual examples of this being done. The problem is of diminishing returns: realistically, you aren't going to get more than a limited improvement from this procedure.

    6. Re:How is "over the surface" defined? by rco3 · · Score: 1

      Well, good. I suppose you'd like to inform the nice people over at NEC, now, so that they stop wasting their time demoing technology that can't be done. Oh, and don't forget to yell, "Bumblebees can't fly!" real loud so that they all fall down.

      Convincing yourself doesn't make it so.

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  19. VideoBrush Whiteboard by enosys · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Has anyone ever used VideoBrush Whiteboard? I think it already did something like this. You could film a whiteboard in a zig-zag pattern and it would stitch togeather the video frames into a high-res image of the whiteboard.

    This software is from the mid to late 90s and unfortunately not available anymore. iPIX purchased the company and discontinued all of its products. There are a few links to buy it but they say it's unavailable and I haven't ever been able to find it on file sharing.

    Another interesting program they had is VideoBrush Panorama. It is can only stich vertical and horizontal pans (don't even try zig-zag). It's pretty cool to be able to get panoramas from video pans, and the software is very easy to use. There is no need for a tripod. You can get an evaluation copy here. This and a resource editor might come in handy if you want to use it.

    1. Re:VideoBrush Whiteboard by george515 · · Score: 1

      SnapDV is a new alternative to Video Brush Panorama. Creates panoramas from AVIs. check out www.snapdv.com

  20. More tools for digital shoplifting? by hussar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last July there was an article here on /. about Japanese publishers' concerns that people were using their phones' digital cameras to photograph magazine pages. I'd bet they are really worried now.

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  21. Scan and Print by null+etc. · · Score: 1

    Combined with those handheld printers that work by "rubbing" the printer over paper, I can foresee some serious "wax on, wax off" action in the future.

  22. Old handheld scanners... by Stween · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sounds like something of a workaround to get behaviour similar to that of the old handheld scanners that used be around (I loved my monochrome 300dpi handheld, it was just something of a black art sometimes to try and keep the alignment good).

    I can see why people might want to do this (panoramic photos suddenly springs to mind...), and if I hadn't been surprised by the uptake in camera phones, I might be jumping on the Slashdot bandwagon of "Who'll use it? I want a phone that only makes phone calls! I hate cell phones!!", but camera phones have *seriously* caught on, certainly here in the UK.

    1. Re:Old handheld scanners... by Peyna · · Score: 1

      I think a more obvious use would be to avoid having to take a document over to the copier and try to get it look halfway decent when you could stay at your desk in the library and scan what you need and continue working. Definitely a time saver when you need copies of information you can't take out of the library, etc.

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    2. Re:Old handheld scanners... by Stween · · Score: 1

      Definately one use, if a little cumbersome at times (while also remembering a lot of phone cameras aren't that great just now, though they are getting better).

  23. Cannon by codefungus · · Score: 0, Redundant

    A friend of mine purchased a new cannon digital camera that let you take 3 pictures in a "line" and it did the work of putting them together in order to create a panoramic image. I don't see that this is really all that different.

    I didn't see her use the feature though, so how well it works, I dunno.

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    1. Re:Cannon by rco3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's different because it's not just making a bunch of small pics into one big one, it's making a bunch of lo-res pics into a hi-res one. It's also different because it doesn't require YOU to do any alignment or adjustment of your composition.

      In theory, you could take a 320x240 movie of the *whole page* at once, moving around, and when the movie got sufficiently long the software would reconstruct a high-res image of the whole page, as in 300 dpi or some such scanner-type resolution.

      I realize that this is Slashdot, but you might try RTFA. You won't lose karma for that, I promise.

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    2. Re:Cannon by superhoe · · Score: 0

      I just bought a Canon digital camera. It has the same feature. Works fine.

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    3. Re:Cannon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So,

      1. pan across a landscape with lo-res camera.
      2. Create hi-res image from pan.
      3. Create a higher-res panning shot using new hi-res image (in software, not with the camera).
      4. goto 2 or Stop when your happy with the resolution.

    4. Re:Cannon by jaspervic · · Score: 1
      I think you may have *mis*RTFA, since the article does say the 'technique involves recording a part of the subject', not the entire subject.

      Here, 'the joining points of the image are deleted', so any overlap is not analyzed further.

      In theory you could develop this algorithm further to account for the fact that the overlap looks at slightly different areas of the page, thereby deriving sub-pixel information (like fuji's octagonal CCD technology ) but I think the point is that this technology does not try to make too many assumptions about the quality of the source image.

      This would also significantly increase the complexity of the algorithm. Assuming this technology is also being targeted for phones with cameras, a simpler algorithm is also one that will not drain the battery (as much).

    5. Re:Cannon by JoshRoss · · Score: 1

      I wonder if I could turn my mouse into a scanner too. Should I post this into What (non-PC) Hardware Do You Hack??

    6. Re:Cannon by rco3 · · Score: 1

      Well, the article is a translation from the Japanese original, and there are some statements made in there which are contradictory or confusing... but I stand by my statements.

      Your "in theory" part describes exactly what I believe is being done - several images of the same subject, from slightly different vantages, are analyzed to produce a higher resolution image of the subject. Not a larger image, a higher-resolution image.

      If you got the sense from the article that the algorithm is concerned entirely with stitching together small images to make a large one, you may be right. But I think you're mistaken.

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  24. Hehe, reminds me of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    going to the local software store and reading out a valid cd-key of Halo to my phone 'cos I'm too cheap to buy it.

  25. DoD Security Problems? by gato_mato · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With the problems that the DoD has had in the past with Cell Phones with Cameras I wonder if this will get them even more scared of such technology.

    Imagine if they freaked out over 1Mega Pix cameras because they could take FUZZY pictures of classified docs - This kind of technology will send the DoD over the edge. As it is right now Cell Phones with cameras are prohibited in all classified environments (at least byt the NAVY that I know of).

    A Cell Phone with this kind ouf tech could be banned from the ENTIRE base/post/shipyard etc. One of the things that the drill into your brain in the service is that over time a bunch of little bits of unclassigied data can be made into a very informative report that borders on the classified.

    Just my 3MegaPix Worth

    1. Re:DoD Security Problems? by Sentosus · · Score: 1

      I understand that the NRC has already banned them at all Nuclear Power Plants in the protected areas. I happen to work at one, but have never had the money for a camera phone.

      It has been a question of mine for a long time what was going to happen when the staffing recognizes a person with a photographic memory. They can essentially reconstruct the same material the photocamera can with time.

      The problem is that GSM/CDMA signals should be blocked from all secure locations since they can be used for other non-pure purposes such as bomb triggers.

      SP --- Fully believes that cellphones should be blocked from all government facilities.

    2. Re:DoD Security Problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen similar restrictions regarding cell phones & classified areas in the AF. Of course, typically cameras are prohibitted anywhere within sensative installations (government and industry), so those rules would cover cellphones & cameras. I wouldn't be surprised if security guards at cellphone-allowed sites start asking to inspect phones and prohibitting those that are camera equipped as these things become more ubiquitous.

    3. Re:DoD Security Problems? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

      They could already do this.

      There is software to achieve much of this. You'd just need to stream video elsewhere.

      Frankly, I think it's reasonable to require all personnel in secure areas to leave their cell phones at a holding area, and provide them with special secure internal-use-only phone-type devices while they are within the facility. Cell phones have an increasing range of security issues.

    4. Re:DoD Security Problems? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well, 'spy cameras' aren't exactly new innovation.

      you'd suppose theyd have made up some rules on regarding them already.

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  26. To Paraphrase Chris Rock: by dkh2 · · Score: 0

    But, does it do OCR?

    Sure it's nice to use it as a scanner to capture an image of a page but, can I then OCR the text to reduce the storage demands of the data?

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  27. They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Dr.Knackerator · · Score: 1

    or it will look pants. The big limiting factor in phone pic quality is the shocking quality of the 'lens'. Almost all the phones I've seen have had awful sharpness, low contrast and the most horrible pincushion distortion.

    they are getting slightly better, but not much. In fact at the moment there is no point upping the resolution on camera phones because of poor lenses.

    I'd give you a link to my Nokia Art page except I fear it /.ed :)

    1. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by ag0ny · · Score: 1

      Almost all the phones I've seen have had awful sharpness, low contrast and the most horrible pincushion distortion.

      Current japanese phones give (IMHO) adequate image quality, considering what you paid for the phone. I'm sure the quality is going to be more than enough.


      A few pics of my DoCoMo F505i, and many photos taken with it

    2. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by tommck · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm too old for the street lingo, but what does "It will look pants" mean??

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    3. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Dr.Knackerator · · Score: 1

      sorry, UK slang. if something is 'pants' it's awful and don't forget over here 'pants' means underpants no trousers :)

    4. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Dr.Knackerator · · Score: 1

      Hey they are GREAT!

      beats my nokia 7650 into a cocked hat. I recently did a trawl for my photographer friend who wanted a cam phone and it was disappointing what we found over here. Many phones were only qcif resoultion. the rest were pretty awful, on par with the 7650.

      IIRC we chose the samsung v200 which was reasonable quality. Like the other samsungs it has poor sensitivity, but makes up for it by having a built in light.

      what's a rough price of that 505i?

    5. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by tommck · · Score: 1

      So, you guys in the UK consider underpants awful? :)

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    6. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by ag0ny · · Score: 1

      what's a rough price of that 505i?

      Depends. When I got this phone on July, the price was around 25.000 yen (the same week it was released). I got a 5.000 yen rebate (IIRC) because I was already a DoCoMo customer and blah blah blah.

      Since the 505iS models were released in December (the D505iS in October), the 505i series can be bought much cheaper. For example, my wife bought a D505i for just a bit more than 2.000 yen (final price after rebate for being DoCoMo customer, etc).

      If you're not already a DoCoMo customer, the 505iS models sell for around 32.000 yen, and two of them (the D505iS and the SH505iS) already

    7. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by ag0ny · · Score: 1

      ooops, I hit the submit button too fast. What I was going to say in the last sentence is that the D505iS and the SH505iS already have a 2 megapixel camera, so the picture quality is much better.

    8. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1
      In fact at the moment there is no point upping the resolution on camera phones because of poor lenses.

      You can do wonders with postprocessing. Human eyes have AWFUL optical parameters, but heavy-duty postprocessing.

    9. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Dr.Knackerator · · Score: 1

      hey I go commando all the time :) I think more explanation might be required... 'underpants' would be considered functional, not attractive. Greying 'Y' fronts for men or just awful plain but tatty underwear (perhaps with the day embroidered on) for women. anything more presentable would be properly named - boxers, lingere, etc. pants is just the lowest of the low :)

    10. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Dr.Knackerator · · Score: 1

      there is a limit to what you can get usefully out of postprocessing. I'm gonna regret this but look at this image from my 7650.

      It's sharpened to get the centre nice, but the corners are completely gone. ok you could correct the barrel distortion, but you are not going to retrieve any detail.

    11. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Dr.Knackerator · · Score: 1

      Is that on a contract? over here (UK) camera phones are still going 250+ to buy outright. (32,000 yen = 156) hey i'd buy it at that price, depending on its low light sensitityity. I tend to use mine mostly at night, so a low 'ISO' value would be be no good most of the time

    12. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1
      This is the reason why eyes move a little when you look at something. Somebody else mentioned nystagmus here, as a correction mechanism for people with damaged retina. Multiple sweeps of the camera over the field of vision, so the part of their vision that's sharp covers everything that seems interesting, can correct most of this.

      Eyes are specifically designed for this behavior; the center of vision is sharp and sensitive to color, while the peripheral areas are more specialized to sensing motion.

    13. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by ag0ny · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's on a contract. I don't think you can buy the phones without a contract, because they don't use SIM cards over here. Anyway, these prices are for the latest models. Older models (even the ones with camera) are very very cheap.

    14. Re:They'd better have a good lens on the phone... by tommck · · Score: 1

      I'm getting schooled on foreign vernacular... I had to look up "tatty" underwear. I guess it is like tattered.

      I assume by "Y fronts" you mean the "briefs" or "tighty whiteys" as we like to call them.

      But now I get it... thanks for the clarification about everyone's knickers (had to throw that in there somewhere).

      T

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  28. Super-resolution by Pemdas · · Score: 1
    I don't know firsthand about this product, but I do know something about the field.

    This is almost certainly using a technique usually called called super-resolution. The basic idea is:

    • Take multiple offset images with a low resolution sensor (usually a motion sweep)
    • Stitch the images together
    • In the overlapping areas, you can now generate the most probable underlying pixels at a higher resolution.
    You can read about some of the underlying ideas here and here. It's a pretty cool area of research.
    1. Re:Super-resolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Super-resolution by jovlinger · · Score: 1

      The mit people seem to be playing a machine vision field: *guess* the high resolution image given one low res one. It won't extract any information which isn't in the lo-res picture.

      The CMU work seems similar, but aimed only at facial reconstruction (I only skimmed it, so I don't know whether they use a NN -- would seem reasonable).

      The point of the camera sweep approach is that you combine several lores pix to algorithmically extract *higher* spatial resolution than either of the input pix. No guessing.

    3. Re:Super-resolution by jovlinger · · Score: 1

      I'd like to retract what I said about the CMU work. Seems quite applicable, on a closer read.

    4. Re:Super-resolution by laird · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points now, the parent post would have +1 informative. Thanks!

  29. Overrated by ANTRat · · Score: 1

    Cell phones are so overrated anyway.

  30. How it probably works by feelyoda · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i do a bit of computer vision and here could be a basic method this this to work:

    for each image
    fit an affine transform to the last
    [this should work easily because
    1) the paper is planar
    2) the paper and it's background are hopefully different - with nice edges in between
    3) the lighting conditions are the same (depending on how you hold the phone)
    4) the paper is not moving

    each of these tranforms can be applied cumulatively to the future images, though error is reduced by mapping everything to the center image.

    this takes care of the registration problem (other techniques like KLT might be useful...maybe [ http://vision.stanford.edu/~birch/klt/ ] )

    then you can apply techniques of super-resolution to get a higher resolution image [ http://www.ri.cmu.edu/projects/project_323.html ]

    try it .. not that hard :)
    having a rectangular, planar, still, evenly-lit piece of paper helps!

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  31. counterfeiting...? by caino59 · · Score: 1

    ok, with all the built in anti-counterfeiting tech in scanners now, is NEC being forced to push the anit-counterfeit measures?

  32. Hmm + partial transl of original by mattr · · Score: 1

    Hmm I think I'd like to do this, email a moviemail to a server, or send what is normally a lousy video stream from a FOMA phone to a server and do it there. Seen this sort of algorithm around in Siggraph once upon a time, wonder if there is anything linuxy that can be bent into shape to use the cycles on my new VPS..

    (To me this looks like what was documented in Graphica Obscura - projective warping of multiple photos - by SGI researcher Paul Haeberli. Actually his site has lots of info (I haven't seen code though) for doing wild things with color, depth of field, resolution, and so on using neat algorithms, style, and mucho fast computers. But now we can approach more closely the power he had 10 years ago. I love how slashdot forces me to look for sites I loved and lost. This seems to be a repetitive cycle for me with a period of a year. Help Mr. Gerlernter!

    Here is more info from the original article.
    It is a quickie so if someone wants to take a shot at translating the whole thing it might be good.

    This is jointly announced by NEC and Nara Advanced Science and Technology University Graduate Program, which were working together as an example of biz-academic collaborations the government has been trying to foster.

    It's based on two technologies, "mosaicing" and "ultra high resolution imaging". Mosaicing is defined as making an image of a flat surface or virtually flat distant scene with a wider angle than the camera is normally capable of capturing, by changing the position and angle of the camera, and later composing the resulting images into a single one. (So this is just a definition of a mosaic)

    Ultra-res imaging technology is defined as oversampling by turning the object through slightly different angles and composing the resulting images into a single one. (So this is like Magellan's oversampling).

    It says they were aiming at using consumer video cameras and camera-equipped phones to make a low-cost, low-annoyance way to do imaging, with a goal of say 15 megapixels, or like what you would get with an A4 page scanned at 400dpi.

    The development was done without any special sensors or whatnot, and claim they are able to get similar quality to what a scanner would get by just using a consumer video camera to scan an A4 sheet of paper with this technique.

    Then there's some marketing speak and it is presented as research results, no discussion of exactly what the system is or if it will be provided to the public.

    1. Re:Hmm + partial transl of original by Bushcat · · Score: 1

      One of the myriad NTT subsidiaries has a similar technology that "watches" a film and detects scenes, indexing them them either by both video scene changes (which is pretty standard) and also by changes in any captions or voice. Ultimately, I suppose the aim would be to have an index to a film library searchable by scene, what is being said or what a caption is likely to be saying. One byproduct is that a scene builds up into a large static image: in other words, if the camera is panned, tracked or zoomed, the final static image contains the entire video field covered. Pretty neat.

  33. This is not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Its called "super-resolution" and there are a bunch of papers on it, using very different techniques, and different sources of images.

    I also think this is used on Mars by the MOC team to produce 0.5m resolution images from 1.5m source data.

    You can do this with a normal digicam btw, download registax 2 for example. Just take consecutive images of the same static subject, and combine them.

    1. Re:This is not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Stacking" isn't as good as full Bayesian image super-resolution when systematic noise is present; see the theoretical discussion in section 7.5 of Bretthorst's book (he refers to stacking as "averaging"). For a Bayesian method, see this paper, and some of these references.

  34. Well, like I said on the latest poll... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1
    I don't own a cellular phone, you insensitive clods!!!

    (come to think of it, I don't own a scanner either =/)

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  35. Been there, done that by fbonnet · · Score: 1
  36. Look at Steve Mann's Video Orbits by CandyMan · · Score: 3, Informative
    This sounds suspiciously close to what Steve Mann et al. do with Video Orbits, automagically compositing different frames from a video, or still pictures of the same scene, into either a higher-resoulution picture or a wider-angle panorama. Sometimes the result is a mix of the two.

    You can even get the code from sourceforge, although now he seems more interested in his studies into what he calls "Comparametric Toolkit", which seems to mix Video Orbits with software based on the Wyckoff principle (how to get high dynamic range pictures from one underexposed pic and one overexposed pic, for those who don't RTFL).

    I suppose the amount of processing power in those phonecams must be insane, or maybe the algorithm they use is more generic, but it is good to know all this Moore's Law horsepower applied towards useful stuff, not just Laracroftish games (ducks).

    Finally, it is worth of note that, although Mann's software is now GPL (I don't recall it being Free, or even released, last time I checked three years ago), at least one of the algoritms is under US Patent5,706,416, which of course is not nice, unless he plans to license it free of charge for GPL software.

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    1. Re:Look at Steve Mann's Video Orbits by jovlinger · · Score: 1

      they probably upload it to a server for processing.

  37. Can go with the rolling printer thingy by chendo · · Score: 1

    ... that was on slashdot some time ago. Had the same concept, instead of printing the normal linear way, you roll it around and the printer somehow figures what to print (or something like that). I remember reading jokes about how easy it'll be to print "kick me" notes on people's backs ;)

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  38. personal privacy too. by whovian · · Score: 1

    I know some fitness centers have already banned cell phone usage in their locker rooms. Maybe other places such as lavatories and clothing store fitting rooms are or will be doing the same. Guess this could mean bans on cell phones at the football stadium as well (think: Janet Jackson).

    Although countries other than the US generally don't have the same hang-ups about nudity, it would be interesting to know what policies they have regarding cell phone usage and personal privacy.

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  39. Why a movie? by nuggz · · Score: 1

    I use my normal 2MPixel digital camera to take photos of articles all the time.
    Works well, and it is cheaper then photocopies.

    I think it would be cool to be able to combine images like this.

    But I'm not an imaging expert.

    I would also like to build 3d models from several photos, not that anyone cares, but I think it would be neat.

  40. HP Capshare handheld scanner did the same. by MDMurphy · · Score: 1

    The HP Capshare scannner did the same a few years back, I remember seeing the demo at COMDEX.

    Rubbed it on a document like you were erasing a whiteboard. It assemembled all the bits it saw into a single image.

    It listed for $1295 in 1999

    http://www.canada.hp.com/cpo/home.html

  41. In Other News... by turgid · · Score: 2, Funny
    Sheep + Kangaroo = Wooly Jumper.

    *ducks*

  42. Maybe it is just me? by beware1000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't see how this could *not* require a rediculously steady hand. I have enough trouble making my digital camera photos not blurred!

    1. Re:Maybe it is just me? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It specifically does not require a steady hand. A video clip is generated by moving the camera and the motion is analyzed from the video, generating a path which is then used with the frames of video in order to determine their placement. Once the images are "stacked" they can be processed and a single higher-resolution image produced.

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  43. You don't understand Japan by mekkab · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This Washingtonpost article(blah blah reg req'd) may shed some light for you.

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  44. photographic memory by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

    +1 funny
    I'd love to see the conversation where someone has to explain to the base general that mr. smith is a security risk because of his photographic memory.

    While it'd be nice to block cell/GSM/etc signals on/in gov't facilities, just think of the leakage from any large military installation. You'll have residents for miles screaming bloody murder.

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    1. Re:photographic memory by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1
      You can do the same with bunch of time and non-photographic memory as well. There are very good 3D scene modelling systems in the wild - map editors of first-person shooters are common and good. Distance measurement in steps isn't exactly accurate, but it's still better than nothing. In many cases, the larger distances that are difficult to assess but are dependent on the building dimensions can be measured from publicly available satellite or aerial pictures.

      Piece by piece, you can reconstruct a detailed 3D image of more or less any facility you attend often, with nothing than your eyes necessary on the scene itself. There is no way to prevent this.

  45. NIST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NIST isn't exactly a collection of rocket scientists. Rather, it's Token Gesture Campus where a mix of second-rate local researchers get to mix with second-rate overseas imports. NIST is vacuous "internationalization", not deep research.

  46. Thanks for the good post and question by 0x0d0a · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the good post.

    I notice that Mann's work appears to deal with flat scenes-mobile camera, or stationary camera-arbitrary scene.

    Do you know what state-of-the-art in 3d model building is? Is there effective work on arbitrary camera, arbitrary scene?

    I know that CMU has a bunch of work that can pull off some of this, but I think that it may be special-cased (i.e. determining the location of the camera using other methods) and may have sensors other than vision (like laser range finders and the like) involved.

  47. Can it really simulate a virtual copy stand? by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    When I first got my digital camera (2 megapixels) I experimented with this sort of thing and gave up. The camera resolution was more than sufficient to capture an entire book page well enough OCR it... IF I put the page under glass to flatten it and lit it very carefully, with two lights at 45 degrees each as with a copy stand.

    If I just handheld the camera over the page and pushed the button, the page curl prevented the page from being evenly in focus. The lighting was so uneven--even on pages that looked flat and readable to the naked eye--that the images were very unpleasant to read and completely impossible to OCR. If you set the threshold properly for the center of the page, the area within a couple of inches of the gutter went completely black. Using available light and using the camera's built-in flash produced very different, but equally unusable results.

    The ability to wave a phone over a reference book in a library and capture a page would be genuinely useful, but I am rather skeptical that the software is really clever enough to synthesize a flat, evenly lit, in-focus image from the resulting set of images.

    Yes, I've considered bringing a sheet of Plexiglass, a table-top tripod, and a couple of battery-powered fluorescent lamps into the library with me. And thought better of it.

    1. Re:Can it really simulate a virtual copy stand? by iamhassi · · Score: 1
      "When I first got my digital camera (2 megapixels) I experimented with this sort of thing and gave up."

      Sorry to hear that, I've done the same with great success using a 2mp Canon S10. I've used it with everything from magazine articles to car titles to entire textbooks (I wasn't spending $100!!). Even useful at night if I used the flash, zoomed in on the text and turned the macro feature on. Needed to turn the "fast shutter" on for books and articles otherwise they'd turn out fuzzy (shaky hand). Never used OCR, just lightened the images, increased contrast and printed them full page using a HP laser printer. Looked just like I photocopied them.

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  48. Is this technology employed by space telescopes? by pomakis · · Score: 1

    I suspect that certain space telescopes do something like this. I wonder if, for example, the images we have of Pluto are constructed by taking multiple photos that are slightly offset and mining higher-resolution data from them.

  49. Re:Maximum 6 months by spiff42 · · Score: 1

    In Denmark the subscription plans are not allowed to last more than 6 months. After this period the phone company is required by law to remove any SIM-lock, allowing you to use the phone with any other phone company. Of course you can also get the phone without getting locked into the subscription plans, but you have to pay a lot more to get it. /Spiff

  50. Dumbass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    the technology (some sort of software I presume) will construct a high resolution image from the individual frames of the video ...

    No, you sprinkle pixie dust over the phone, tiny fairies read the data and create an ascii file. Of course it's software. Idiot.

    I'm amazed you have the brains to even use a web browser never mind find /.

  51. HP Capshare by vasqzr · · Score: 2, Informative


    I can't believe nobody's mentioned the HP CapShare.

    Link
    Picture

    I was doing some consulting for a lawyer in 1999, and he showed me some 'new' HP scanner he just got for some outrageous price. He told me they didn't even have it in the stores/catalogs. It was a very 'James Bond' device, you could swipe it over a large page, and the image was automatically stitched together. You could store/view pages on the scanner, or send them to an HP printer or a laptop via IR. Very cool.

    eBay has a couple of them for sale.

    1. Re:HP Capshare by ischemic · · Score: 1
      I have one of these sitting on my desk. It is useful for copying old articles from the library (the ones that are not available on-line). I've decided to keep all my research material digital (over a thousand documents go with me everywhere on my laptop). Being able to scan directly saves me the step of photocopying then scanning back home (and the whole point was to avoid killing more trees and lugging their carcasses back to my office).

      The CapShare works quite well. It can easily scan and store three or four papers on one charge of the AA batteries. I find the quality is good if you can get the paper flat enough. For bound journals, it does about as well as a photocopier. You really need to cut the binding to get a great image, which is obviously not an option at the library. I have been using the scanner less and less these days as the University library has access to older and older articles available (thanks to the good efforts of ACM student volunteers and some publishers).

      I see a future in which all academic papers are available digitally, so the need for the CapShare or portable scanner will wane in that regard. But, I do also use it for scanning handwritten notes, signed documents, and so on. Often, I want to scan these while I am far away from my desk. I'm no fan of over-featured cell-phones, but it is a pretty neat hack. I probably paid too much for the CapShare for the value I get(heady dot com days), but I would still be willing to pay extra for a cell phone that could scan documents. It's worth it to me even if it is moderately inconvenient and moderate quality.

  52. So now we know how the tricorder will involve by johannesg · · Score: 4, Funny
    Years ago as I watched Star Trek, I was always left wondering just how Kirk and Spock managed to control all those alien devices they found. Eventually Bluetooth came around, and I realized it was because soon every device in the universe will have a Bluetooth interface (if you are in the US this may be hard to believe, but bear with me). Clearly the tricorder has a Bluetooth interface as well, which is why it can talk to and even control doomsday weapons, planetary defences, ancient medical equipment, etc.

    That still left the question how the tricorder came into being. Did someone sit down one day and say to himself, "I am going to build myself a tricorder?" That just doesn't seem very likely to me.

    But now I finally figured that out too. The tricorder will evolve from the mobile phone! Every year you can see how more and more sensor functionality is added, while the physical size of the phone is getting smaller and smaller. First they could just acquire audio signals. Then came video signals. Soon it will be able to monitor your heartrate, body temperature, and various other vital signs, and maybe even automatically call 911 if you get into trouble. Sensors for electricity, magnetism, seismic waves, spectral analysis, alien energy, and other things will invariably follow, driven as they are by our lust for gadgets, useless functionality, and the latest and greatest. Meanwhile rest assured that ever-increasing software capabilities will provide the ability to make rudimentary medical diagnosis, do chemical analysis, and contain drivers for every alien Bluetooth-enabled device in a thousand lightyears.

    While we are at it, you can rest assured that the very moment someone develops a universal translator, it will be embedded in a mobile phone.

    So there we have it: the tricorder in a small, handy package. There are only two downsides that I can see: if we are to believe Star Trek, it will at some point lose its communication functionality (Kirk was always using a separate communicator), and based on current trends the battery life may not exceed 2-3 minutes...

  53. Only one thing missing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All we need now is a magnetic strip reader.

  54. Re:So now we know how the tricorder will *evolve* by johannesg · · Score: 1

    Evolve! Evolve, damnit!

  55. No examples? by pomakis · · Score: 1
    In all of the discussion of this technology and similar technologies, I have yet to see an actual example of an image that was constructed in this way. Does anybody know of any examples? I'd really like to see how well hi-res information can be mined from low-resolution pans (or slightly-offset low-resolution images).

    1. Re:No examples? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  56. ALE does this and is GPL by adamdeprince · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ALE is an open source tool that does this nicely. It is normally intended for turning a large number of images of the same thing into one higher quality image, but when you use the --follow and --extend flags. it can turn a sequence of images from a video into a single larger image.

    To quote from their site: ALE is a free software program that renders high-fidelity images of real scenes by aligning and combining many similar images from a camera or scanner. The correct similarity between images is roughly that achieved by a somewhat unsteady hand holding a camera.

  57. The significant word is AND by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    You want a phone that just makes calls AND stores addresses. But that is already an adition to the basic functionality of a phone. I am even presuming here that you meant phone numbers, not street addresses.

    So you want it to remember phone numbers. How about some function so that you can add a small note to each entry? Like who that person is? How about an alternative number if they can't be reached on that one?

    Soon you have a complete agenda. All its function perfectly reasonable to the people that use them.

    Sure a phone company could make a phone that just makes calls. I tell you a little secret, they all did. Then they introduced phones with extra feautures and the old simple models stopped selling.

    But there still are simple phones being sold. It is just that 99% of the buyers want the gadgets so that is were all the developments are taking place. Why should they release a new model that doesn't do anything new? The old phones from 4 years ago do what you want. Why design a new one.

    Shop around, they are still out there.

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    1. Re:The significant word is AND by Kent+Recal · · Score: 1

      The old phones from 4 years ago do what you want. Why design a new one.

      Because nowadays they could probably make a small, light phone with excellent BASIC functions and incredbile standby-time. But instead of working towards that goal they add useless cameras that don't even work in the dark, expensive (by all means) color displays (yea, gimme two please!) and all that other useless bloat.

    2. Re:The significant word is AND by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a small, light phone with excellent BASIC functions

      I agree. What we need is a phone that you can program to PRINT, GOTO, and INPUT, excellently.

  58. Something similar exists for Apple's iSight by zerosignal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.chiltonwebb.com/iStill/

    iStill uses a proprietary image enhancement engine, which analyzes multiple images and creates one single, high resolution final image by performing a pixel-by-pixel calculation. The result is an image guaranteed to be at least as good as a normal iSight camera screen grab, but which can be considerably better (for the math gurus out there, this is essentially a realtime convolution along the z axis). This is the first software product for the Macintosh to utilize this technique for still image enhancement, and is only the tip of the iceberg
  59. This is your chance! by Walkiry · · Score: 1

    Now you can have both!

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  60. Super-resolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The idea was that you could take a standard resolution video that panned across a scene, and by merging the frames over time create amazingly high resolution images.


    The technique is called "super-resolution". Some references:

    motion super-resolution, super-resolution in forensic science, super-resolution in astrophotography, "Bayesian Image Super-resolution", "Example-Based Super-Resolution", "Limits on Super-Resolution and How to Break Them".
  61. Japanese Cell Phones with OCR by kyoko21 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A lot of my friends who are in the Navy stationed out of Japan already have cell phones that can do OCR on them. Not exactly a scanner per se, but they can scan in text from a from, and considering that these cell phones also can interface with the new Memory Stick Pro (1GB), you can just go to the library/book store, and stand there and scan your brains away without buying the book. (Which is why a lot of book stores in Japan now have their books in shrink wrap to keep people from leeching/OCRing for free.)

    The phones can also read barcodes, too.

  62. Iron Eagle by LoudMusic · · Score: 1

    I have vague recollections of the kids in Iron Eagle using a portable handheld scanner. I assume these phones will do similar things. It was neat, but how necessary is it? More toys I guess.

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  63. old technology by ajagci · · Score: 1

    Geekier-than-thou Steve Mann already demonstrated this as video orbits, and there has been plenty of other work on the same subject. Most of the research actually looks at general mosaicing, not just documents. Use with cell phones so far has simply been limited by the limited availability of cell phones with video capability, not by any conceptual problems.

  64. Primax Datapen by enosys · · Score: 1
    I remembered seeing reviews and ads for something like this a while ago. One such device is the Primax Datapen. It's one bit grayscale and it can scan characters up to 1 cm high.

    The ads were in Snglish speaking publications and of course it implied it works with this alphabet but perhaps there was also a Japanese version.

  65. So now the White House by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    will ban cell phones in all government offices )or confiscate them and you under the "Patriot Act").

  66. How about the quality? by Marxist-Leninist · · Score: 1

    I assume that they haven't seen actual camera-phones. If they did, they would know that the quality SUCKS. It would be much better to use regular digital-cameras for this.

  67. More scifi come to life by antarctican · · Score: 1

    Oh... you mean like the idea seen in Earth: Final Conflict with the Global?

    They used to scan those over an object all the time. Ever since that show first came out I've wanted one. :)

  68. WHAT I REALLY WANT! by atheken · · Score: 1

    I want my bluetooth cell phone with camera to function as a mouse... and I can think of thousands of others that would also like that.

  69. Leave it to the Japanese... by El · · Score: 1

    to raise to a fine art form the act of prank faxing people a picture of certain portions of your anatomy!

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  70. SnapDV seems to suck by enosys · · Score: 2, Informative
    Thanks for pointing this out. I just downloaded it and tried it. Unfortunately it sucks. The end result was full of misalignments and other mess. I tried it using both edges and regions and both results were terrible. VideoBrush Panorama creates a perfect panorama from the very same pan.

    It also seems that it doesn't do a lot of the things that VideoBrush Panorama does. It doesn't blend images but just sticks them there. It can't make 360 degree panoramas, it can't output QuickTime VR, it can't capture video itself, you can't fix it's misalignments and you can't do any basic image processing on the panorama before saving. It looks more like an alpha or the result of some research in progress than a software product that's actually being sold!

  71. In related news... by dekashizl · · Score: 2, Funny
    In related news...
    WASHINGTON (DP Wire) - The BLAA (Book and Literature Association of America) filed a movement yesterday in 9th circuit federal court to ban the use of cellphones in and within one mile of all libraries in the U.S.

    "This technology has no use other than the blatant piracy of books," said Samuel Ezzle, President of BLAA. "The numbers show," he declared, "that widespread use of these phone scanners has already lead to a sharp increase in illiteracy among children. Further, these devices violate the DMCA, and we are working with libraries across the country to review surveillance tapes in order to find and prosecute anybody who brings these anywhere near a library."
  72. Already been done! by josath · · Score: 3, Informative

    I remember reading about this, like forever ago.

    It's called "Video Orbits," I guess. Originally, it was made to make panoramic stills from video. But it can also do the same thing mentioned in the article, sort of scanner like.

    Here's the writeup and
    you can download it over here.

    I played with it a bit using the movie function of my digital camera, transfering to computer, then using

    mplayer -vo png movie.mov && mogrify -format pnm *png && estcement.pl *pnm

    (make sure the binaries and scripts are in your path)
    You can play with the $steps= line in estpairwise.pl to change the settings. also, i like to take out the -display in estpairwise.pl, in order to speed things up, otherwise it draws each image on screen as it tries to match them up.

    will produce cemented.pnm.

    This works both as the article talks about, like a scanner, but it also makes kickass hires panoramic shots from crappy 320x240 video.
    Note: turn off automatic brightness/ auto white balance when taking your video, or it make look a little funny.

    no idea if any of this stuff works under windows. but it works like a charm under linux.

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  73. OCR software by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    Build in =good= OCR software, and such a thing would actually be useful. Phones have pathetic storage.

    I'd say the ultimate phone, at the time being, would be the following:

    - a phone. obviously.
    - built-in LED flashlight
    - USB interface for uploading stuff to
    - reasonable storage (32M? 128M?)
    - voice recorder (c'mon, this makes complete sense!)
    - (given this development) scanner + OCR
    - (I'm dreaming here) run on linux so that I can ssh to it over WiFi :P

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    1. Re:OCR software by timeOday · · Score: 1
      Build in =good= OCR software, and such a thing would actually be useful. Phones have pathetic storage.
      Maybe they have pathetic storage because they never needed to store scanned documents before :) In this era of multi-gigabyte CF cards, there is no real reason not to do the digital camera thing... it comes with a cheap little 32 meg memory, and you upgrade it to whatever you want.

      I think this is fantastic, I've long desired this functionality in my Palm. A doctor I know kind of likes how I have everything in my Palm, but he's stuck with his Franklin for now because he gets so many pieces of paper, which he punches holes in and puts in his planner. If this thing is workable you could pop paper documents right into your handheld organizer... fantastic.

  74. Umm... by dot_borg · · Score: 1

    ...so?

  75. They're way ahead of you by Atario · · Score: 1

    In December, when my wife and I went to the local INS (sorry, BCIS) office to get her green card, in addition to the other mounds and mounds of ridiculous security procedures that cost everyone a half-hour of their lives, the security guards were inspecting cell phones for lenses and asking "can this phone take pictures?". I wonder what sort of incredible state secret you're going to uncover by taking snapshots inside a waiting room for an hour.

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  76. "Translation" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The input system of the extensive view and highly minute picture by pocket apparatus with a camera is developed.
    - About the same high-definition picture as a scanner is photoed with a small handicap camera. -
    Months [ 02 ] 23, 2004

    NEC Corp.
    Nara Institute of Science and Technology

    NEC and Nara Institute of Science and Technology succeeded in the development of picture high-definition-ized technology which enables the extensive view and the high definition picture generation which exceed the photography performance of digital camera original by easy operation lately.

    This development is the MOZAI king technology based on motion presumption of a camera. Notes 1 Super-resolving technology Notes 2 It is what was realized with two core technology, and the main features are as follows.

    (1) Some photographic subjects are photoed moving a camera, the motion in the video is analyzed, and a motion of cameras, such as a 3-dimensional position of the camera at the time of each frame photography and the photography direction, is presumed on real time. in order to perform MOZAI king processing based on the presumed result, while a special camera scanner style and a position sensor become unnecessary and a camera is freely moved with a stock -- a mosaic picture -- photography -- possible .
    (2) Presumed accuracy is improved by optimizing a camera motion presumption result over all the frames of not only the frame of order but the photoed image, and the joint of a mosaic picture is eliminated.
    (3) The super-resolving processing based on highly precise camera motion presumption realizes about the same high definition-ization as a scanner input.

    The high definition picture of a scanner or the high-class digital camera average can be photoed now always anywhere using a prevalent type video camera or a cellular phone with a camera as a result of this development.

    In recent years, the use and photographic subject are also diversified with the spread of a digital camera or cellular phones with a camera, and the example which uses a camera for the scene where the scanner was used is also increasing conventionally. The viewpoint of practicality is asked for minuteness (resolution) also with an output picture of the same grade as a scanner, or picture size (view) on such a use scene. However, in order to photo a part for the page 1 of a document of A4 size by equivalent for about the same resolution as a scanner, for example, 400dpi, the number of ZB'oe pixels called about 15 million is needed, and the numbers of pixels run short sharply in a prevalent type digital camera.
    From the former, the technique of compounding a high resolution (or extensive view) picture from two or more low resolution pictures was used for compensating shortage of the number of photography pixels. However, this apparatus needed time and effort for installation and setup, such as mechanical scanner styles (camera _'a etc.), a position sensor, etc. which for that control the photography range precisely, the whole equipment was large, since cost also became high, this technique is restricted to the special use and the difficulty of application to noncommercial camera apparatus (cellular phone with a handicap video camera and a camera etc.) had become a subject.
    The picture high-definition-ized technology developed lately does not conquer such a subject, without using special mechanical scanning equipment and a position sensor, is a camera attached to a prevalent type video camera or a cellular phone, and can photo now the extensive view and the high definition picture beyond the photography performance of camera original. For example, picture generation of the resolution of the video image which photoed the documents of A4 size with the commercial video camera to the scanner input average is attained.

    The use which utilizes this technology and uses a picture and an image more highly is reclaimed, and NEC will aim at realization of more comfortable communication environment o

  77. Applications.. by sam1am · · Score: 1
    Another application is Fingerprint Mosaicking.
    It has been observed that the reduced contact area offered by solid-state fingerprint sensors do not provide sufficient information (e.g., number of minutiae) for high accuracy user verification. Further, multiple impressions of the same finger acquired by these sensors, may have only a small region of overlap thereby affecting the matching performance of the verification system.
    See this paper for some details: A. K. Jain and A. Ross, " Fingerprint Mosaicking", Proc. of IEEE International Conference on Acoustics, Speech, and Signal Processing (ICASSP) , Orlando, Florida, May 13 - 17, 2002.
  78. Why is this new? by iamhassi · · Score: 1
    "new technology... that lets people use their cellular phones with cameras as scanners... move your phone over the surface of the piece of paper while recording a movie, and the technology will construct a high resolution image from the individual frames of the video. I'd love to see before and afters to see how well this works."

    Besides the software, why is this new? Ok so I don't have a cell with a video camera on it, but I do have a cell with a regular camera and I've taken tons of pictures of text for later reference, from test scores to notes. Ok sure the quality isn't good enough for a 8x10, but I can snap a half-page and it be readable. Are you telling me I'm the only person on here that has ever taken a picture of text?

    Besides, how many cellphones in the US can even take full-motion video? Last I checked the newest US phones only took individual pictures.

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  79. I love what they're calling a new technology by stephanruby · · Score: 1

    new technology = cell phone + old technology

  80. Printer by JoshRoss · · Score: 1

    There is a printer that works in a very similar fashion. I am looking for the link right now.

    1. Re:Printer by JoshRoss · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://www.printdreams.com/ Was featured on com.com in June.

  81. Used in Carlie Brucia case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A similar technology was already used to sharpen the images of the man abducting Carlie Brucia captured on a car wash security camera (a few weeks ago). The program was developed by a professor, and he's worked with law enforcement agencies several times now. It takes a number of frames (there were very few in this case) and averages out the information in each frame.

  82. Bar Code Reader in Cell Phone by BranchingLichen · · Score: 1

    In this blog post I demonstrated how my Japanese cell phone scans URLs from a 2D bar code. With pictures.