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Some light reading. https://community.netgear.com/...

Netgear published on 12/13/2016 a beta firmware which claims to address the issue (haven't tested). As of this moment, the router will not, by default, prompt installation of beta firmware. http://kb.netgear.com/00003645...

Netgear's ongoing response to this issue is at http://kb.netgear.com/00003638...

I encourage everyone to let Netgear management know what a great job they're doing: https://www.netgear.com/about/... AFIK, their email address format is typically Firstname.Lastname@netgear.com.

One application that could be rather useful, for this standard(or even ones that use spectrum with even worse distance issues) would be the possibility of reducing the number of delicate connectors for devices that are docked/undocked frequently.

It's hard to beat copper for transferring power(yes, the various wireless charging schemes do work; but efficiency isn't pretty); but, particularly for low voltage, modest current, DC applications where ensuring safety is less of a challenge; you can use simple, robust, cheap connectors.

Connectors for high speed data are less pleasant, requiring some balance between very careful construction to allow high speeds over a limited number of lines and densely packing a whole lot of signal lines into something that still has to survive hundreds to tens of thousands of mate/unmate cycles and hopefully doesn't attract grit, pocket fuzz, and so on.

If you have a very high speed wireless link, even one with lousy penetration and high attenuation in air; you can potentially replace a complex and delicate data connector with one radio-transparent spot on the device chassis and one on the dock: no hole in the chassis, no connector to get damaged or full of crud, no fiddly pins getting bent or corroded; and since the two radios are very close together(ideally in a known position) power levels can be fairly low; and interference and noise would be less troublesome.

Given the issues with atmospheric attenuation; never mind walls, these very-high-speed wifi systems get rather less interesting at greater distances(though yes, SFP ports are creeping into APs, and that's consumer trash, not even some enterprise thing); but if the price isn't too high I'd be delighted to never see another laptop docking station connector again.

Just ploy to keep 10G artificially higher. 10G switches are nearly 1/2 the price of similar 2.5G/5G switches , with nearly quadruple the performance.
*$1100 Netgear m4200 2.5/5G switch 8 RJ45 2 SFP+ 90Gbps Capacity , 66 Mpps . (no number on non blocking) http://www.downloads.netgear.c...
*$595 Ubiquiti ES-16-XG 4xRJ45 10G 12xSFP+ 320 Gbps Capacity, 160Gpbs Nonblocking, 238Mpps http://www.balticnetworks.com/...

Also if you import 300m(1000f) cat7 1200Mhz 23 AWG directly from germany for about 300 bucks.

So for less than cost of a 2.5/5G switch one could buy a 10G switch with quadruple the switching capacity and upgrade their cabling. Or just run 10g over your cat6/cat6e depending on the cable runs.

the actual model number is R8500 and "AC5300" is just marketing shitting on the desk. a side note: netgear actually seems to be open source friendly now as they are using version of dd-wrt and openwrt for their routers.

Netgear XS708E PDF datasheet

"The XS708E consists of eight 10G copper ports and one combo 10G Fiber SFP+ port"

"8 switching ports delivering Non-blocking 10Gigabit bandwidth per port "

If I was using 10GBase-T and not 10GBase-SR, I would probably buy one of these right now. The price of 10G equipment is coming down, but generally still a bit high right now...

That's cool, but the only hardware it officially supports is End of Life.
WNDR3800 http://support.netgear.com/pro...

There is a systemic complete and total regard for basic tenets of security in nearly the entire home router/cpe market.

Start with crypto - no hwrng and a known "less than ideal" version of /dev/random to feed your "secure" wpa and ssh sessions.

Worse:

There is no privilege separation in most routers, which was ok when they were single function devices - BUT: not ok, when vulnerability via services like samba can be used to root most of the top 10 current home routers:

http://securityevaluators.com/content/case-studies/routers/soho_service_hacks.jsp

Once an attacker p0wns your home gateway they can change your dns to malicious sites, as dnschanger did:

http://www.dcwg.org/

or have it participate in botnets, or inflict further attacks on unsuspecting devices both inside and outside your firewall, or sniff your traffic - there is no security when your front door is left wide open.

What nearly every home router and cpe manufacturer is shipping is **rotware**, running 4-7 year old kernels with known CVEs, and 10 year old versions of critical services like dnsmasq. You'd think that new 802.11ac devices available for this christmas might have some modern software on it, but just to pick out a recent example - the "new" netgear nighthawk router runs Linux 2.6.36.4 and dnsmasq 2.15, according to their R7000 gpl code drop -

http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2649

Brand new hardware - 4+ and 10 year old software respectively.

It's unfair of me to pick on Netgear, every router I've looked at this christmas season has some major issues.

Right now, the only current hope for decent security in home routers is in open, modern, and maintained firmware. And I wish the manufacturers (and ISPs, AND users, and governments) understood that, and there was (in particular) a sustainable model for continuous updates and upgrades as effective as android's in this market. I don't care if it came from taxation, isp fees, or built into the price of the device - would you willingly leave your networks' front door open if you understood the consequences?

Rotten routers with closed source code, and no maintenance, are a huge security risk, and they are holding back the ipv6 transition, (and nearly all current models have bufferbloat, besides)

How can the dysfunctional edge of the Internet be fixed?

You are aware that 10GE is not backward compatible with 10/100/1000 ethernet, correct?

Incorrect. 10GBase-T is backward compatible with Gigabit and 100Base-T, as it just so happens, I'm looking at the spec sheet of a Netgear switch at the moment. A USB dongle will suffice for those stuck on 10base-T networks.

I'd say they're underpowered.
When are devices like these getting power over ethernet, Gigabit, and 2GB or more RAM?

Imagine the density you could achieve in 1U with a 48-port switch. A cluster of those could achieve 48GB of redundant storage with 20Gbit sustained throughput for both reads and writes and only consume 110 watts of power (excluding the switch). It would be a *lot* cheaper than buying SSDs and work great for an object store like memcached.

Maybe I better take a closer look at those "smart" power strips the utility company sent me "for free". On second thought, nahhhhh.....I don't care that much. After all, I run some LAN subnets over NETGEAR® Powerline equipment; anybody who wants to nib can do it at their convenience right over the grid.

Now that's thoughtful of me; they wouldn't even have to burn the gas getting that van with the WiFi capture/decode equipment in it out here.

Sure, windfall now, but next month when IPv6 day comes and all the IPv6 sites stay lit, they'll be worth a rapidly diminishing amount.

ArsTechnica has a nice piece about IPv6 and why it's not going to be such a disaster thing after all, add to that the IPv6-capable home routers that are actually being made (at last!) and the ISPs who are rolling out IPv6 networking to their customers... and it's all looking rosy.

The good thing about World IPv6 day this time is that it won't be turned off after a day.

It's about time that IPv6 became widely available. This should start w/ ISPs, who can provide DS or DS-lite to customers still needing IPv4 access. Other than that, since they'll ultimately have to convert anyway, they should get the ball rolling.

Other customers should do it whenever they plan equipment upgrades, so that this conversion accompanies such changes.

Sure, windfall now, but next month when IPv6 day comes and all the IPv6 sites stay lit, they'll be worth a rapidly diminishing amount.

ArsTechnica has a nice piece about IPv6 and why it's not going to be such a disaster thing after all, add to that the IPv6-capable home routers that are actually being made (at last!) and the ISPs who are rolling out IPv6 networking to their customers... and it's all looking rosy.

It's an ostrich problem.

It's nice that a handful of ISPs like Comcast have a clue (they even "get" open source), but 99% of others are too stupid to understand IPv4 is a sinking ship. Mine still does installations using bottom-dollar trash where the firmware's crippled by design -- it'll be in a landfill before it ever supports IPv6. They just wasted a fortune shipping those boxes out a year ago to every single one of their existing users.

Yes

http://support.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/36/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMzE0MDE2NjM4L3NpZC9YaWl3ZWFDaw%3D%3D

Ah, ok - well then I stand by my point ;)

http://iomega.com/iomegatv-media-center/
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/WDTV/
http://usa.asus.com/Multimedia/Digital_Media_Player/OPlay_HD2/
http://delive.netgear.com/
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=318 ...and I could probably add about 10 more links to similar products. I suppose a few of these aren't shipping yet, but many of these feature premium streaming services on their own or through a partnership with Boxee, so Roku will be joining them in the commodity streaming player wars in a matter of months...

I was surprised that TFA stated that the Netgear WNR1000 supported IPv6 since I keep my firmware up to date and have not noticed support. Turns out that the version with IPv6 support, 1.1.2.28, does not appear in the router firmware update page but can be found in the knowledge base at: http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/18631/kw/ipv6%20wnr1000
It is a new update as of Feb 3, 2011 and its listed as being for the WNR1000v2 - no mention of the more recent v3. IPv6 compatibility is not mentioned on the product page or the spec sheet.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/10/10/us/10google3.html

1) http://www.applanix.com/products.html
2) http://www.velodyne.com/lidar/lidar.aspx
4) http://www.topconpositioning.com/
7) http://www.netgear.com/

http://www.netgear.com/products/home/hometheater/media-players/default.aspx

I have an EVA 9100 and it works pretty well, can read network shares etc.

I have to absolutely second this suggestion.

Over the past several years I've tried various things to solve my own needs for a large storage array at home.
I ran a Linux server with a lot of drives software raided for 2 or 3 years.
While it 'mostly' worked, it was a huge huge hassle to set up and maintain.
Also when a drive failed (and boy did they) it was a huge hassle to open up my case, determine which one was the failed drive, replace it, then *hope* that I could run the right commands in the right order to restore the drive.
God help me if more than one failed.

I eventually realized I need a more 'professional' and 'fool proof' device.

After a lot of research I bought a Drobo. Despite some good reviews, once you register a product key with them and gain access to the customer only forums, you will find a LARGE number of complaints. Valid complaints.
Basically their software leaves a LOT to be desired. At the time they didn't have any 'standalone NAS devices'. They all required you to install buggy software that didn't work with linux.
I tried several different Drobos and worked with their support departments, but eventually just had to give up entirely on them.

I did even more research and came across the Netgear ReadyNAS systems.
They had great reviews, the only problem is they were damned expensive.

I decided I'd give it a try and I ordered a ReadyNAS Pro

That was about 2 years ago or so. It was an absolute BREEZE to set up. Just accessed it's built in web server via any browser.
It has worked PERFECTLY since then. ZERO issues.

It's very fast and serves up files via NFS to my linux systems and to my windows systems as a mapped network drive (SMBFS/Samba).

I really could not be happier with the system. I HIGHLY recommend you invest in one.

Why even spend that much? Just a NAS that does AFP.
http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASDuo/RND2110.aspx

Or even a USB drive and an Airport Base station on the network.

Or even just a ethernet to USB converter to a USB drive.
http://www.simpletech.com/products/storage/simplenet/simplenet.php

"And that creating a "guest" open network was limited only to the most expensive and corporate models that had multiple SSID and radio support (secure or nothing configuration)? "

Multiple SSID

Really? You might try telling that to Netgear or D-Link or any of the other companies that make Coaxial Ethernet Bridges.

This whole story could have been avoided if the poster knew the right term to Google.

Nothing to worry about here at all Coax is very strong and won't break on you as pull on it to bring in some cat 6. Otherwise if you really wanted you could go back to the days of vampire taps and 10base2...

Having been there, I really must recommend wiring your own house. It's a great way to learn a lot and in the end you get what you wanted where you wanted. All that being said, if at all possible, run some small pvc piping through the walls and wire things that way. If your that adverse to getting your hands dirty and doing the hardwork of wiring you could also look at things like Ethernet over power.

How about Powerline Networking? See http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetAdapters/HDXB101.aspx Russ

MCAB1001 is a link that actually works.

I just set a customer up with a USB 3G adapter from AT&T, and I don't remember the Connection Manager install being as bad as I expected, although it did take awhile. Since the connection was for a small office in a rural area (no cable or DSL, so 3G, satellite, and dialup were the only options), I set them up with a Netgear 3G router. No more AT&T software needed, and the owner can use his laptop on the wireless network, in addition to the desktop computer it was originally intended for.

So, you don't always need the dumb software.

Having already fell for this once, by buying netgear's KWG 614, I can honestly say that opensourcing it, is just a way for netgear to avoid having to support their product.

http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=13041

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNAS3200/RN12P0610.aspx It's a 2U, 12 SATA-disk server. You could load it with 1TB drives for 12TB. The software's pretty good (based on Linux) and constantly being updated.

Yes, "RAID is not backup", in that you shouldn't simply RAID your primary drive and consider the backup problem solved, but backing up to a RAID array can be advantageous -- you do disk-to-disk backup (via any of a variety of methods), and monitor the health of the RAID array closely -- if any disk in the array goes south, replace it promptly and your backup stays consistent. And, if you keep a spare drive or two around, you can swap a drive out occasionally to take off-site (and let the array rebuild onto one of your spares).

Personally, I like the ReadyNAS Duo a lot more than the Drobo (hard to explain, I just trust their tech better, and the ReadyNAS is natively networked, rather than needing an afterthought add-on). Last I checked, Amazon will sell you an empty ReadyNAS Duo and a couple WD Green 1TB drives for ballpark $500. That said I haven't got a ReadyNAS yet (because money has so many uses these days); I'm using my second most favorite backup setup, a 500GB laptop drive in an external bus-powered FireWire enclosure. I'm using a MacAlly PHR-S250CC enclosure (which I'm very happy with), using a drive I already had, but for a complete setup, I'd probably go with one of Other World Computing's packages for about $150. This loses RAID (which I ultimately want very much to have, for reliability), and isn't networked (which would be good for backing up multiple machines, and ease of use), but the bus-powered drive is so damned easy to use that I actually do it every day (set the drive next to my laptop and plug one cable between them, Time Machine notices the drive and starts a backup, 5-10 minutes later it's done, and I unmount the drive, unplug the cable, and put it back on the shelf).

My primary machine is a Mac; I use Time Machine for daily backups, and use SuperDuper to clone my MBP's drive onto the same backup disk every few weeks (minus a number of large directories that I know Time Machine is getting anyway); this gives me a backup drive I can boot from (via SuperDuper), and a lot of incremental history stored in a very usable manner (via Time Machine). And a backup system that I actually use because it's painless.

Add a ReadyNAS, and I could have my laptop automatically backing (hourly) up any time it's on the home network.

As far as on-line backup goes, I haven't been convinced yet. It eats a lot of bandwidth, and it means that someone else (that I don't know personally) has a copy of all my data, with only their promise of encryption keeping them honest. Sure, there isn't much there for anyone else to get worked up about (a variety of legally purchased music and software, a bunch of old email and vacation photos), but if it's not out of my hands, then that's one less thing I have to worry about. I do love DropBox for moving non-confidential files around, but I wouldn't use it for backup.

even better: http://netgear.com/Products/CommunicationsVoIP/Skype/SPH150D.aspx

Up to 200Mbps

How does somebody here miss something so obvious? Google helped me find this in less than 60 seconds. It's a combination DSL modem, router, hub, and wireless gateway. (?!)

I have one, the WRT 54G which has the same features as the first link sans the DSL Modem.

Try crawling out of your mother's basement and visit the local Best Buy / Circuit City / Fry's ?!?!

• "WPA2-only" mode. Combined with a good password, this should keep out nearly all undesirables.
• Transmit power adjustment (low/med/high). No need to broadcast at high power if all you need is low or medium. Lower power = lower chance of interference to others, lower chance of discovery by sniffers.

--Whizzmo

Check this out http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASNVPlus.aspx - Asit

I got an infrant readynas NV+, now sold as the netgear readynas. It's pricy (I got mine for around $550 without any drives) but it's dead simple to use and maintain. I popped in 4 500GB drives from their approved list, let it grind away formatting, and instantly had about 1.5ish TB of storage ready.

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage.aspx

Features I like - the OS allows for plugins, however the included servers more than meet my needs. It came with various media servers and compatibility with every reasonably popular operating system. It's flexible and very configurable for both security and features. You can also upgrade the ram on the system mobo, which can add up to 10% or so of real-world performance for the cost of whatever it takes to pull that used sodimm from your spare parts bin.

Feature that is ok - I used "X-Raid", which is essentially raid 5 but with the ability to swap in drives of different sizes. The array automatically sizes itself to use 4x the capacity of the smallest drive, but if you upgrade one at a time with larger drives it will automatically resize to the larger capacity when all 4 drives are the new larger size. Downside - it's proprietary and not true raid5. On the gripping hand, I don't care. It works and automatically manages itself.

Feature I don't like - it's not very fast. Even over gigabit ethernet, it's no faster than a single USB drive. You can speed up writes by turning off journaling and trying different features, but it's still not very fast.

It's possible that netgear has increased the overall speed of the device since speculation in the user forum is that any changes to the unit's motherboard due to previous design obsolescence would invariably speed up the whole device in every way, but I have no direct knowledge about this. It seems that the unit is either cpu or drive controller limited, not limited by drive or network adaptor speed once you pop in a larger sodimm.

Bottom line - for me it was pricy peace of mind. It sits quietly in the corner of my office hooked up to my gigabit switch, and it's available 7/24 for backups. When I go on vacation, I can poke a hole in my router and get relatively secure web, ftp, nfs, etc. access to the unit. I can put my music or video library on it and stream to any computer on my LAN with the included media servers. Pricy, but useful and I haven't had to fiddle with it beyond the initial setup and minor tweaking of services the first week I owned it.

I believe the new NAS from Infrant/Netgear (the ReadyNAS people), will have RAID 6 support. It also supports 6 drives.

http://www.netgear.com/About/PressReleases/en-US/2008/20080428b.aspx

Again, it's Linux based. Open source. And you can tweak it to your hearts content. Plus, they are quiet and energy efficient (assuming you use drives that are as well).

I heard a lot of good from friends of mine about the Synology Cube Station CS407, and that's the one I have on order now. I like the fact it's expandable, I'm e.g. planning to run a Squeezebox server on it. It has good support, and a large user community.

Others I heard about: Intel SS4200-E (Helena Island). It exists in two versions, one with an embedded OS on a flash and one without any soft. The one with software included has not that much possibilities and is not expandable, it's in the category "it just works." For the other version, I heard installing Linux or Windows Home Server on it is a PITA...

The ReadyNAS by Infrant (recently bought by Netgear) also gets good comments.

oh come on... how hard would it be to add a gigabitE switch to this?

http://netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/RangeMaxNEXTWirelessRoutersandGateways/DG834NB.aspx

its not exactly fricking rocket science.

so ha ha fucking ha all you people saying "And no monitor included? No printer function either?" but the reality of it all is they just don't want to cannibalize their current switches.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5855/product_data_sheet0900aecd8016a8e8.html

yep... like I need one of those.

Truth is, I had a netgear gigabit switch.... and I managed to fry it AFTER a thunderstorm by plugging the power of the adsl router into the switch by accident
http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/DG834Gv1.asp

Its one of the older models that required a higher voltage than the poor switch :(

That was one or two years ago now... and I've been dying to replace it with gigabitE again but I cant help but feel Netgear (and the rest) will shortly replace the crappy 10/100 hub with gigabitE

http://netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/RangeMaxNEXTWirelessRoutersandGateways.aspx

Look at the above products... really? how hard would it be? I'd really rather not have to go back to two devices... and I'm sure if I did right now I'd get burned lol

oh come on... how hard would it be to add a gigabitE switch to this?

http://netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/RangeMaxNEXTWirelessRoutersandGateways/DG834NB.aspx

its not exactly fricking rocket science.

so ha ha fucking ha all you people saying "And no monitor included? No printer function either?" but the reality of it all is they just don't want to cannibalize their current switches.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5855/product_data_sheet0900aecd8016a8e8.html

yep... like I need one of those.

Truth is, I had a netgear gigabit switch.... and I managed to fry it AFTER a thunderstorm by plugging the power of the adsl router into the switch by accident
http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/DG834Gv1.asp

Its one of the older models that required a higher voltage than the poor switch :(

That was one or two years ago now... and I've been dying to replace it with gigabitE again but I cant help but feel Netgear (and the rest) will shortly replace the crappy 10/100 hub with gigabitE

http://netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/RangeMaxNEXTWirelessRoutersandGateways.aspx

Look at the above products... really? how hard would it be? I'd really rather not have to go back to two devices... and I'm sure if I did right now I'd get burned lol

oh come on... how hard would it be to add a gigabitE switch to this?

http://netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/RangeMaxNEXTWirelessRoutersandGateways/DG834NB.aspx

its not exactly fricking rocket science.

so ha ha fucking ha all you people saying "And no monitor included? No printer function either?" but the reality of it all is they just don't want to cannibalize their current switches.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5855/product_data_sheet0900aecd8016a8e8.html

yep... like I need one of those.

Truth is, I had a netgear gigabit switch.... and I managed to fry it AFTER a thunderstorm by plugging the power of the adsl router into the switch by accident
http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/DG834Gv1.asp

Its one of the older models that required a higher voltage than the poor switch :(

That was one or two years ago now... and I've been dying to replace it with gigabitE again but I cant help but feel Netgear (and the rest) will shortly replace the crappy 10/100 hub with gigabitE

http://netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/RangeMaxNEXTWirelessRoutersandGateways.aspx

Look at the above products... really? how hard would it be? I'd really rather not have to go back to two devices... and I'm sure if I did right now I'd get burned lol

(Taken from Netgear's Site)

Internet Explorer 5.0 or Netscape 7.0 or higher

So to use the open-source router, you must have a closed source (or discontinued) browser. Nice. I know they probably copy/pasted the requirements from all their other routers, but still. They went and made a special website for the it, you'd think they could at least add "Firefox" on their page...

Source code for other of Netgear's routers are also available:

http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101238.asp

I myself am tempted to download the source for the WPN824EXT, because my parents bought the WPN824EXT and had issues installing it. They were wanting to use it as a range extender. Trying to work it for them, I found this was not something was easy to configure, when compared to other routers. One thing I found is that as sold this does not really extend the range, unless one end is cabled to the base station. I was expecting a smarter range extender that would be able to simply extend the range wirelessly.

The KWGR614 was the single worst router I have ever used.

It's a shame with the catchy name and all.

Those things have even worse naming schemes than CPUs.

The KWGR614 was the single worst router I have ever used. VPN, chat, P2P, and any other application that required other than port 80 never worked, it liked to drop connections for no reason, and has received not a single firmware update to date. At least Newegg was nice enough to give me my money back so I could buy a Linksys. The only success it achieved was setting the bar extremely low for this new open source offering.

> Doesn't matter, work machine can't reliably connect to the
> wireless router 25' away (although through two walls).

Have you tried HomePlug adapters that signal over your home's
mains electricity? They are now widely available from Netgear
and others:

http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking.aspx?for=Home+Networking

Perfect for houses with thick internal walls.

Yep... here's the code....

ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/GPL/readynas_gpl.zip

Like everyone else said, if you want it cheap, DIY. If you want a packaged solution though, I'm liking Netgear (formerly Infrant)'s ReadyNAS NV+. http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASNVPlus.aspx

It even comes with a pre-installed version of slimserver inside the NAS (for serving up your music library from your NAS to Squeezebox players).