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Re:how much is it?
Well... I'd have to say maybe, but it's certainly not limited to T-Mobile.
Scroll down to 'Operating frequency'
* Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
* WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHz
My guess is it will be sold unlocked in the US, much like many of their high end phones.This is what history seems to have shown. For some reason the great Nokia phones don't get pushed by the major US carriers, unfortunately leaving consumers to face the price of a new computer.
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Re:Look again
From what I understand, Maemo 5 is a mix of GTK+ and Qt, as horrid as that sounds. It is a "transition" release, mostly more polished than previous versions but with the hooks necessary for multi-core, multi-processor, accelerated 3D graphics, accelerometers and Qt support.
If the N810 is your first, then you might be disappointed to not see a load for it. If you'd been around before, this would come as no shock. There was no official support for the N770 beyond the initial release, except in a community-supported "hacker edition". Mer came along nicely.
[searching...]
It seems the alpha of the Freemantle SDK worked on the N810 but the beta and later did not. Speculation is because of the closed-source 3D accelerated graphics drivers that were introduced in the beta. You might see a "hacker edition" but without all the extra hardware (new CPU, accelerometers, 3d graphics, etc.) it'll probably just disappoint.
Oh, and Qt is v4.5. http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/kate-alholas-forum-nokia-blog/2009/03/02/qt4.5-for-maemo-5-fremantle-sdk
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Re:how much is it?
Also I am looking forward to see what the SDK looks like, never worked with Maemo before.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide
Nokia also hosts VM images with the development environment already setup. http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php -
Re:how much is it?
Well... I'd have to say maybe, but it's certainly not limited to T-Mobile.
Scroll down to 'Operating frequency'
* Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
* WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHz
My guess is it will be sold unlocked in the US, much like many of their high end phones. -
N900 Video doesn't work on Linux desktop
So I go to the Nokia site to watch this video http://maemo.nokia.com/videos/introducing-maemo-5 and it doesn't work on my Linux desktop. Boooo Nokia. Boooo.
BTW, I'm a current N800 owner and LOVE IT!
Not certain I want my cell phone to be this large. Also, I like controlling how my N800 connects (via BT or WLAN) to keep the costs low, but the 32GB of memory would be nice. Now if the running OS gets more - perhaps 2GB, that would be nice too. The N800 has 128MB for the OS and I've added 2x8GB SDHC flash for storage.
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Re: Does is support SIP / VOIP?
I refuse to buy any phone unless SIP is supported in the OS, like the fine phones on this list: http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/resources/technologies/voice_over_IP/voip_support_in_nokia_devices.html
FWIW, I have an N95 connected to Asterisk all day/night long, and I get far better battery life than when I run a 3rd party application like Fring. )Note to iPhone folks, SIP via apps like Fring aren't even possible in your need-to-be-approved world.)
But since it is open Linux, I image someone will come up with something, better than Fring. Not that Fring is all that bad. But SIP in the OS on my N95 makes this a Telephone for me. What I really want is a nice clients to my servers. I remain optimistic on this device.
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Look again
Maemo 5 aka Freemantle: http://flors.wordpress.com/2009/08/27/software-freedom-lovers-here-comes-maemo-5/
Official Nokia Site: http://maemo.nokia.com/
Developer's Guide: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide
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CDMA
You missed a big difference for people in the USA... Quoting the specifications page
Operating frequency
* Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
* WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHzThat's right. This device will be available with CDMA support. Which means that people in the US who are customers of carriers who didn't adopt GSM like everybody else in the world ( eg: Sprint, Verizon ) will, in theory, be able to use the phone, too.
And before you say that we should all "get with the program" and switch carriers to one that uses GSM, for many of us, for various reasons, it really isn't an option.
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Re:T-Mobile's 3G
Another dumbass that doesn't bother reading the tech specs:
Operating frequency
* Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
* WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHzYes, it will work on T-Mobile or AT&T.
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Positioned as a high end device - not a phone.
Look at the N900 feature list - "Phone" is fourth down.
Maemo may power Nokia's high-end devices, but this is no reason to sound the death knell for Symbian. With regard to Nokia, they make a lot of phones that are not the N900, and do not cost 500 euro. There are also dozens of other companies supporting the Symbian Foundation, including many other manufacturers like Samsung and Sony Ericsson.
Symbian^4 will use Qt as its UI layer, and Maemo is moving into a similar direction (that's why Nokia bought Trolltech!) - targeting both platforms should be quite simple.
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In other news...
Nokia n900 specs revealed: http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/
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Re:is it actually a phone?
See Nokias press releases: N95, N96, N97
Here's one for N80 aswell since you mentioned it.
See the pattern? All of them are called multimedia computers, not phones according to the press releases.
Phone is something you can use to make calls, and perhaps send text messages.
These things are much more than that, and Nokia doesn't market them as just-a-phone.
N-series are computers with builtin phone capabilities.
Who needs appstores when you can "apt-get install application" to your phone.
Honestly, does any multimedia computer/smartphone function well as just a phone? Hell no. They all suck at it.
But if you need a device you can just make calls with, you don't spend $500-1000 on it unless you're completely insane, or incapable of calculating what 24 month contract actually costs you. -
Re:is it actually a phone?
See Nokias press releases: N95, N96, N97
Here's one for N80 aswell since you mentioned it.
See the pattern? All of them are called multimedia computers, not phones according to the press releases.
Phone is something you can use to make calls, and perhaps send text messages.
These things are much more than that, and Nokia doesn't market them as just-a-phone.
N-series are computers with builtin phone capabilities.
Who needs appstores when you can "apt-get install application" to your phone.
Honestly, does any multimedia computer/smartphone function well as just a phone? Hell no. They all suck at it.
But if you need a device you can just make calls with, you don't spend $500-1000 on it unless you're completely insane, or incapable of calculating what 24 month contract actually costs you. -
Re:is it actually a phone?
See Nokias press releases: N95, N96, N97
Here's one for N80 aswell since you mentioned it.
See the pattern? All of them are called multimedia computers, not phones according to the press releases.
Phone is something you can use to make calls, and perhaps send text messages.
These things are much more than that, and Nokia doesn't market them as just-a-phone.
N-series are computers with builtin phone capabilities.
Who needs appstores when you can "apt-get install application" to your phone.
Honestly, does any multimedia computer/smartphone function well as just a phone? Hell no. They all suck at it.
But if you need a device you can just make calls with, you don't spend $500-1000 on it unless you're completely insane, or incapable of calculating what 24 month contract actually costs you. -
Re:is it actually a phone?
See Nokias press releases: N95, N96, N97
Here's one for N80 aswell since you mentioned it.
See the pattern? All of them are called multimedia computers, not phones according to the press releases.
Phone is something you can use to make calls, and perhaps send text messages.
These things are much more than that, and Nokia doesn't market them as just-a-phone.
N-series are computers with builtin phone capabilities.
Who needs appstores when you can "apt-get install application" to your phone.
Honestly, does any multimedia computer/smartphone function well as just a phone? Hell no. They all suck at it.
But if you need a device you can just make calls with, you don't spend $500-1000 on it unless you're completely insane, or incapable of calculating what 24 month contract actually costs you. -
Nokia "Morph" concept
Nokia's Morph concept phone provides some interesting insight into the future of phones.
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Re:Seriously?...
I wonder if this would work for you :
I've been impressed by the quality when using it to connect my Senn HD-25 headphones and my E90 (which has a stupid 2.5mm socket).
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Oh yeah?
It seems to me that some very successful companies are happily using GPL and LGPL in concert with commercial licensing. In fact, one company was so successful that they were bought by Nokia (I'm referring to Trolltech - developers of Qt):
http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing
http://qt.nokia.com/about/open-source-business-model/open-source-business-modelMe thinks someone is stirring the pot and flinging the FUD around. There are those whose interests are best served by the free- and open-source movements eating each other. Don't get sucked in. ALL licenses share the same fundamental freedom which is: DON'T LIKE IT? DON'T USE IT!
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Oh yeah?
It seems to me that some very successful companies are happily using GPL and LGPL in concert with commercial licensing. In fact, one company was so successful that they were bought by Nokia (I'm referring to Trolltech - developers of Qt):
http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing
http://qt.nokia.com/about/open-source-business-model/open-source-business-modelMe thinks someone is stirring the pot and flinging the FUD around. There are those whose interests are best served by the free- and open-source movements eating each other. Don't get sucked in. ALL licenses share the same fundamental freedom which is: DON'T LIKE IT? DON'T USE IT!
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Symbian and Handango
From the Handango website:: Androidâ, BlackBerry®, Palm®, Windows Mobileâ, Symbian OSâ - I don't see Windows CE in the list. In fact: theses are all the smart phone operating systems which are currently available (Apart from iPhone OS X that is).
I agree with you that future is bleak for Symbian. But still:
http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n97
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/satio
http://omniahd.samsungmobile.com/None of which are older then 6 month. The reason that I think Symbian is on a demise is not that there are no new devices - it is that the available new devices are missing the "wow - cool" factor.
And last not least: How do you define SmartPhone OS so that the N97 is not included? My definitions is Keyboard and/or Touchscreen and native user installable applications. The N97 qualifies for all three points.
Martin
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Ignored for a long time
Dear iPhone users and Developers: You have been ignored. Don't blog about it, don't whine. If you are an iPhone only developer and your app was rejected without any meaningful reason, bad for you...
Next time, have decency to ship same application for Symbian userbase, Windows Mobile and even J2ME. Yes, the "cool platform" choice of you have tendency to reject applications and even have capability to kill them remotely. Now, it is not that cool or trendy, head to http://www.forum.nokia.com/ . There you have access to 100M potential users. Or head to http://www.getjar.com/ and see what are you missing.
Right now, writing this message, I see this Google Ad at top
"Unlock i`Phone -
Millions of Satisfied Customers Unlock Your i`Phone Now!
www.Unlock-the-iPhone.com"Expect something good from that platform especially for development?
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Re:Good for both!
That has been an evolving thing which was sorted out before Nokia was involved.
Nokia bought TrollTech in 2008. Qt was released under the LGPL license in 2009.
it became clear that Mr Stallman and others refused flatly to read the qt licence changes when there was an attempt to make it more compatible with the GPL.
Straight from the horse's mouth:
Thanks in part to the discussions held here by the freshmeat community, Trolltech has decided to release the next version of Qt under the GNU General Public License. In today's editorial, Eirik Eng and Matthias Ettrich explain the reasoning behind their decision.
We have been in contact with Richard Stallman (President of the Free Software Foundation) on the issue, and he has been kind enough to offer his help and analysis. He has also sent us comments from Professor Eben Moglen, Professor of Law & Legal history and General Counsel for the Free Software Foundation.
That's from the article written about the decision to release Qt under the GPL, by the people who made that decision. If you use Google, you will also find plenty of mailing list threads where people are discussing the QPL's incompatibilities, and Stallman participated in some of those threads.
Yes, I understand that some people in the Free Software community considered a modified QPL to be compatible with the GPL, but disagreeing with them doesn't mean that you haven't read the license, and just because TrollTech attempted to make changes to make the QPL compatible, it doesn't mean that they were successful. Sometimes bugfixes don't fix the entire problem. Complaining about the bug after an incomplete fix doesn't mean you haven't run the software.
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Re:Ironic dichotomy of Apple's Family Values
This is rubbish, and those who modded that insightful will hopefully get slapped at metamoderation.
Mentioning moderation is a well known method of increasing your own moderation.
:-)There is no public API for iPods.
While you are rather correct in your iPod analysis, the rest of us are debating Palm PRE's disabled syncing with iTunes. Feel free to join in at any time:
if you know a description of the public unencumbered API for managing the music database on an iPod, post it's URL, and I will apologize.
It's already been mentioned that Nokia phones sync their calendars (through iSync) and iTunes music (through the public and unencrypted xml files) from mobile phone to your PC/Mac.
20 seconds on google gives you:
http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-and-software/download-software/isync
http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-and-software/download-software/nokia-multimedia-transfer
http://cultofmac.com/sync-itunes-with-mobile-devices-from-sony-nokia-sony-ericsson/2682Feel free to apologize now.
Sorry to puncture your balloon so easily. Oh, you asked for "unencumbered API" - sorry, that's not how the world works. But maybe the HURD people will release a music player and desktop app once the kernel is out...
Both the big guys (Nokia) and the small fish (Salling et.al.) are allowed to play nice with iTunes. Palm chose to pretend to be something they weren't, through unpublished APIs, instead of putting their money towards getting a stable, supported solution for their customers. Is it that hard to pick up the phone and CALL Apple? Even I can find Steve Jobs' email address. He might be out, but I betcha someone is answering his phone and checking his inbox.
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Re:Ironic dichotomy of Apple's Family Values
This is rubbish, and those who modded that insightful will hopefully get slapped at metamoderation.
Mentioning moderation is a well known method of increasing your own moderation.
:-)There is no public API for iPods.
While you are rather correct in your iPod analysis, the rest of us are debating Palm PRE's disabled syncing with iTunes. Feel free to join in at any time:
if you know a description of the public unencumbered API for managing the music database on an iPod, post it's URL, and I will apologize.
It's already been mentioned that Nokia phones sync their calendars (through iSync) and iTunes music (through the public and unencrypted xml files) from mobile phone to your PC/Mac.
20 seconds on google gives you:
http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-and-software/download-software/isync
http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-and-software/download-software/nokia-multimedia-transfer
http://cultofmac.com/sync-itunes-with-mobile-devices-from-sony-nokia-sony-ericsson/2682Feel free to apologize now.
Sorry to puncture your balloon so easily. Oh, you asked for "unencumbered API" - sorry, that's not how the world works. But maybe the HURD people will release a music player and desktop app once the kernel is out...
Both the big guys (Nokia) and the small fish (Salling et.al.) are allowed to play nice with iTunes. Palm chose to pretend to be something they weren't, through unpublished APIs, instead of putting their money towards getting a stable, supported solution for their customers. Is it that hard to pick up the phone and CALL Apple? Even I can find Steve Jobs' email address. He might be out, but I betcha someone is answering his phone and checking his inbox.
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Actually, I expect TomTom and Garmin to vanish
Nokia (the biggest phone producer) for example, have their own mapping software (Nokia Maps, or Ovi Maps depending on whether you use the web site or the phone interfaces) and are including it free with all their phones, so, where does that leave tomtom and garmin?
Dead and buried is where. They just don't know it yet.
One of the things I find interesting is that this all started kicking off about 3 years ago, but nobody at Garmin or TomTom really noticed. Was the management asleep or what?
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You can download map sets directly
No need to download 5gb of maps over the cellular line... In fact, I'm sure the admins of these kinds of services would rather you didn't (there are a lot of phones out there).
e.g.
http://europe.nokia.com/explore-services/maps/downloadHowever, even having downloaded the maps to your phone, you can still get realtime services to them; like traffic data over the wireless line, should you choose to use it.
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Why do they call themselves "trolls"?
Nope. It's true, Nokia bought Trolltech. Quote: 'Eirik Chambe-Eng, Chief Troll and co-founder of Trolltech continues "We are thrilled to join forces with Nokia." '
I wonder if the people who work with Qt (cutie) will continue the tradition of calling themselves "trolls"? A troll is "an imaginary creature of human-like form, very ugly and evil-tempered".
I doubt very much that the people who work with Qt are ugly and evil-tempered. What I think they meant is that, originally, they had a feeling of not belonging.
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Re: why skype and not SIP (voip)
Please don't promote skype in this space. It is too proprietary, and consumes too much battery power running as a 3rd party app.
Why not buy a true SIP phone? Then you can set it up like an extension at your office/PBX, or configure it directly to a service like www.voipcheap.com. Personally, I won't buy a phone unless it is supported on a list like this one:
http://www.forum.nokia.com/Technology_Topics/Mobile_Technologies/VoIP/Nokia_VoIP_Framework/VoIP_support_in_Nokia_devices.xhtmlIn the US, T-mobile sells uncapped (AFAIK) mobile internet for $40 a month. Another 'perk' under such a plan is A-GPS (combined cell-tower plus true GPS for speed).
This makes your mobile device much closer to being a standardized 'client' to web services. In fact I even turn my N95 into a 3g router, using www.joikuspot.com (so I don't have to swap the SIM with my USB modem).
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Re:Thanks EU regulation
- both Nokias have the "standard Nokia" thin connector that doesn't comply to ANY reasonable electric standard so you can't just connect it directly to USB or any power supply of any reasonable parameters. Specifications here: http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/3378ff2b-4016-42b9-9118-d59e4313a521/Nokia_2-mm_DC_Charging_Interface_Specification_v1_2_en.pdf.html
http://www.walrus.com/~raphael/html/usb_charge.html Still shitty, but not quite as bad as you make it sound. I really disliked the fact that my last Nokia (6300, otherwise a fine phone) had a standard mini-usb (good!) but wouldn't charge over it (bad!)
Anyway, Nokia h as been pretty good so far because they only have two standards, even if they aren't a standard outside of Nokia's phones. Every charger fitted every phone, up until recently. The newer small plugs have a different size but are still the same charger. I've always thought that makes perfect sense, both for the customer and for Nokia.
Anyway, glad to see Europe's pushing this standard. I do hear it's only for data phones though:
The chargers will be usable only for data-enabled phones, which have more capability than just standard calls and SMS texts. Data-enabled phones are expected to account for almost half of all new mobile handset purchases in 2010.
The Commission hopes that as people discard their old handsets, within three to four years all data-enabled phones in Europe will be using standardized chargers.
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Re:Thanks EU regulation
The market at least in the EU had already pretty much standardised on USB charging.. every non-nokia phone I've had used it. Nokia of course had to be different, but there's only 2 nokia charging standards and adapters are readily available (and since ~70% of the phones you see around are Nokias, it's a sort of standard).
What this does is codify what was already happening.
In what world is this already happening?! We bought at the office recently two Nokia, two Sony-Ericsson and one Samsung. They are beyond craziness with respect to connectors.
- both Nokias have the "standard Nokia" thin connector that doesn't comply to ANY reasonable electric standard so you can't just connect it directly to USB or any power supply of any reasonable parameters. Specifications here: http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/3378ff2b-4016-42b9-9118-d59e4313a521/Nokia_2-mm_DC_Charging_Interface_Specification_v1_2_en.pdf.html
- one Nokia HAS a standard mini (or micro?) USB connector but it won't charge over it
- the other Nokia has a USB connector that LOOKS like mini but it doesn't fit anything but a specific Nokia cable. It still doesn't charge over it
- both S-E are equally crazy. You need to connect the headphones to the bottom of the phone via a proprietary connector! This is where power and USB cable also go! Still they would charge over USB but you need the proprietary cable and you need to have the proper drivers in the OS (yes, to charge). Because everything connects there you have interesting combinations like you can't charge when listening to the headphones or you can't listen to the radio while charging (because radio needs the headphones plugged in for antenna)
- Samsung has some kind of crazy flat connector, did not take a close look but certainly not USB of any kind
- for S-E and Samsung the old chargers don't fit the new phones.I see this as a BIG MOVE for Europe.
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Re:A Nokia N810 with Maemo Mapper . . . ?
Wait, you got a GPS signal with a Nokia N810? Could you link to the details of the proper animal sacrifice ritual?
http://betalabs.nokia.com/betas/view/gps-beta-nokia-n810
"Assisted GPS (A-GPS) provides assistance data for GPS calculations within the device. This application enables A-GPS on your N810 Internet Tablet device and provides improved performance and GPS fix times."
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Re:Front Camera
...as do many Nokia phones...eg the N70...announced 27 April 2005, and the N95 too.
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Re:Front Camera
Most 3G phones have front facing camera's. When 3 (a UK Mobile phone company) first started all of their LG and Motorolla phones had front facing VGA cameras so you could make video calls, interestingly the first 3G Nokia they sold didn't support video calling. Some Nokia Offeringswith a front facing camer
Nokia N Series
Nokia 5800, two cameras on this baby
The Sept 2006 released Nokia N95 which has two cameras and a tilt sensor
The 2006 E63
Sony Ericsson
The 2006 P990
2006 Sony Ericsson with a full VGA Camera on the front
CyberShot phone!
Motorola
The Razor
Your right obiviously no one has put a video camera in the front of a phone along with one in the back so users can take decent phones with one and make video calls with the other. Thats crazyness! My nokia 5800 will let me choose which camera (back or front) to use to take video/photos and which camera to use for calling, its certainly a new innovative feature. -
Re:Front Camera
Most 3G phones have front facing camera's. When 3 (a UK Mobile phone company) first started all of their LG and Motorolla phones had front facing VGA cameras so you could make video calls, interestingly the first 3G Nokia they sold didn't support video calling. Some Nokia Offeringswith a front facing camer
Nokia N Series
Nokia 5800, two cameras on this baby
The Sept 2006 released Nokia N95 which has two cameras and a tilt sensor
The 2006 E63
Sony Ericsson
The 2006 P990
2006 Sony Ericsson with a full VGA Camera on the front
CyberShot phone!
Motorola
The Razor
Your right obiviously no one has put a video camera in the front of a phone along with one in the back so users can take decent phones with one and make video calls with the other. Thats crazyness! My nokia 5800 will let me choose which camera (back or front) to use to take video/photos and which camera to use for calling, its certainly a new innovative feature. -
Re:Front Camera
no phone in the history of the universe has had a front facing video camera
You are wrong: Nokia N82 has both a 5Mpixel camera at back and a 352x288 front cam specifically for video calls.
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more options
This is a no-phone, data-contract-only option I am aware for the US:
Then you could buy any phone you wanted to use or develop for. Having been in Europe for a long time now, I don't understand the US telco contract-phone market, but I am aware T-mobile has this 'unlimited' mobile internet for $40 a month, no phone included.
I wrote this out, because I couldn't figure out why Nokia wasn't on your Dev-list, but then I figured maybe Nokia isn't offered with contracts in the US, (or maybe Nokia isn't your personal pref.). At any rate, I really like Nokia, because I develop VOIP systems, and Nokia supports the open SIP VOIP-standard really well in the OS, which draws little power compared to running an application like Fring. So obviously I try to steer my corporate clients to consider Nokia phones, but really only the ones on the always-updated list of supported SIP phones:
The N79 has all the features the iPhone doesn't offer to this day, for 287 euros cash (like shooting DVD quality video, A2DP bluetooth meaning speaking-headset/music support), and even negates the need to carry a Polar heart meter when cycling with site/nav-GPS which is why I want one. Note that price includes a 19% value-added tax that businesses like me (sole-proprietership developer) do not pay.
http://gsmtrack.nl/index.php?page=merken&action=toestellos&id=708&id2=1135
And Nokia is attempting great things, like their Sports social-networking site, which I hope they make more dev-friendly: http://sportstracker.nokia.com/
And as far as I am concerned, no phone short-list is complete without the Neopwn, which runs Debian, Firefox, etc., and does *much* more!
And for what's worth, on the deskphone side, I just bought a Polycom IP650, for its speaker-phone quality, and It Rocks(!!), and with a great GUI too.
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more options
This is a no-phone, data-contract-only option I am aware for the US:
Then you could buy any phone you wanted to use or develop for. Having been in Europe for a long time now, I don't understand the US telco contract-phone market, but I am aware T-mobile has this 'unlimited' mobile internet for $40 a month, no phone included.
I wrote this out, because I couldn't figure out why Nokia wasn't on your Dev-list, but then I figured maybe Nokia isn't offered with contracts in the US, (or maybe Nokia isn't your personal pref.). At any rate, I really like Nokia, because I develop VOIP systems, and Nokia supports the open SIP VOIP-standard really well in the OS, which draws little power compared to running an application like Fring. So obviously I try to steer my corporate clients to consider Nokia phones, but really only the ones on the always-updated list of supported SIP phones:
The N79 has all the features the iPhone doesn't offer to this day, for 287 euros cash (like shooting DVD quality video, A2DP bluetooth meaning speaking-headset/music support), and even negates the need to carry a Polar heart meter when cycling with site/nav-GPS which is why I want one. Note that price includes a 19% value-added tax that businesses like me (sole-proprietership developer) do not pay.
http://gsmtrack.nl/index.php?page=merken&action=toestellos&id=708&id2=1135
And Nokia is attempting great things, like their Sports social-networking site, which I hope they make more dev-friendly: http://sportstracker.nokia.com/
And as far as I am concerned, no phone short-list is complete without the Neopwn, which runs Debian, Firefox, etc., and does *much* more!
And for what's worth, on the deskphone side, I just bought a Polycom IP650, for its speaker-phone quality, and It Rocks(!!), and with a great GUI too.
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try Nokia VOIP OS options
Consider then buying a SIP compatible phone, and registering it as an extension on your asterisk-type system. Personally, I wouldn't buy or recommend a cell-phone unless it appeared on a list like this, meaning the SIP registration stack is part of the OS (which also means less power consumption than a 3rd party app like say, Fring):
If you are home, and your phone is within 802.11 range, it will register to your LAN and Asterisk server.
A ring-group configuration will ring all extensions in the group, including your Nokia SIP cell-phone. So if someone calls your home, your cell-phone will ring too.
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Re:Who cares?
Unfortunately that's not a phone. The only open phone (openmoko) has 2 buttons : power and aux. Not quite enough for a good game experience.
I keep wondering why this is so hard. Nokia's 5500 and 6820 have such useful and quick keyboards. Nokia Ngage is a freaking game console (didn't sell all that well though), and has lots of phones supporting it.
Nothing open source though. An ngage-style-controls phone with a few emulators, and a large screen ebook reader (perhaps simply by combining a pico projector and a screen flipping up or something*). Something that can run nes, snes, sega megadrive, and n64 would certainly cover all I want (psp games and the necessary controls for those would be a great bonus). And, of course, a pdf reader and some storage slot that isn't limited to 2 gigabyte.
* yes it wouldn't work well in direct sunlight. You don't get much of that up here though, besides you won't find me outside all that much either.
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Re:Nokia Symbian, not Symbian on other devices?
Looking at mobile9.com for the Samsung G810 it links to the Symbian S60 3rd Edition Software category. Assuming they are correct, then it's possible they will work for your phone e.g. the nokia n76 is an S60 3rd Edition 240x320 device: http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/N76 so therefore the apps they have down for that phone could work on the Samsung G810. No promises though.
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Re:/. Genius Bar
Is this really difficult?
For some, yes it is.the stateful tracking makes it work automatically
That's great that it works for you, but Nokia's 25 page troubleshooting guide suggests there are many problem users.Very nice guide for generalized VOIP problems!
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Re:Nokia has it for ages
You are correct, and that's a Nokia hosted site you linked to. Nokia has also released the source code for the site you linked to, here:
http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Mobile_Web_Server
From what I understand, the nicer setup made-possible would essentially make the nokia Phone a 1st replicating server, and what the public visits/sees is a conventional www-mirrored replica of the 1st (phone) server. (And the PAMP is something else, more like a regular Apace server)
The hidden beauty of this, is this is probably the fastest way to conventionally publish (or make available to editors) any photos/videos shot from the phone itself.
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No, it's called Mobile Web Server
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Ovi will cost devs $100's per app to upload!
"(no fees for each app or update uploaded)" - not so as far as I know.
Ovi is requiring each app be "Java Verified" ( http://www.javaverified.com/ ), which requires third party testing on each 'class' of phone at a cost to the developer of around $150. So if you wanted to cover all Nokia's models it will cost you more than $1000 per app to get it certified as 'uploadable' (I cannot figure out exactly how many 'classes' / 'lead devices' there are). Any change or update to the app requires re certification.
You can check out how happy everyone is here: http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=161596
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Re:Full of hot air
If I remember correctly, Nokia have been looking into the concept for even longer.
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Re:Non-issue?
I know very well how Nokia Messaging works because I use it. This is their new email client that is now being shipped on recent higher-end phone(s), or that can be downloaded/installed on older models. It is made to compete with Blackberry services which work the same way.
You can complete its setup over the web - you go to http://email.nokia.com/ enter IMAP/POP server name/username/password and add up to 10 accounts to your main Nokia account.
Alternatively, you can do these steps on the phone itself, which is what the OP described.
You then run Nokia Messaging on your phone, enter your master credentials and have access to all of your accounts.
This is how this service is designed. You may think it's not prudent to give Nokia your credentials, but this is how this service is designed and there are reasons for doing it this way.
Claiming there is some conspiracy is silly.
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Re:Getting closer...
Try this one:
I've played with one that a friend bought, not bad, if web browsing in a small-medium size is what you want.
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Why bound to a single carrier?
I was so enthusiastic when I read about android, being open source, free as is speech etc.. But then, the more I read and saw about the actual products the more I was whipped back into line, the coup de grace obviously being the very non-free-as-in-speech decision to sell it only through T-Mobile (and whatever that entails), just like previously the iPhone, (which Android phones where supposed to show how we do things in the "free" world).
So after all this I decided for Nokia's 5800XM (cheaper now), which seems to do it just right. I am not bound to a specific carrier and added to that there was the recent announcement that they'll make the Symbian OS open source. I've installed Python on it (which has a very alive developer community) and now have easy direct access to the Bluetooth functions, phonebook, camera, music player, GPS etc.
Add to that an easily replaceable 1320 mAh battery (very useful especially when excessively using the internal GPS :p), Wifi and a slot for 16GB microSDs... - open source/Python and kick-ass hardware, what more could one want from a phone? -
Why bound to a single carrier?
I was so enthusiastic when I read about android, being open source, free as is speech etc.. But then, the more I read and saw about the actual products the more I was whipped back into line, the coup de grace obviously being the very non-free-as-in-speech decision to sell it only through T-Mobile (and whatever that entails), just like previously the iPhone, (which Android phones where supposed to show how we do things in the "free" world).
So after all this I decided for Nokia's 5800XM (cheaper now), which seems to do it just right. I am not bound to a specific carrier and added to that there was the recent announcement that they'll make the Symbian OS open source. I've installed Python on it (which has a very alive developer community) and now have easy direct access to the Bluetooth functions, phonebook, camera, music player, GPS etc.
Add to that an easily replaceable 1320 mAh battery (very useful especially when excessively using the internal GPS :p), Wifi and a slot for 16GB microSDs... - open source/Python and kick-ass hardware, what more could one want from a phone? -
Re:quick to savage the company...
You're modded as funny, but I'm not sure if that was your intent or not.
Companies evolve and survive. Nokia has been around since the 1800's, long before anyone ever heard of a cell phone.