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There already is a TV tuner for it..

The Nokia 7700 will also support the Nokia Streamer SU-6 accessory, the first mobile IP Datacast receiver designed to demonstrate the mobile phone television experience using the DVB-H network. The Nokia Streamer can be attached to the Nokia 7700 like a battery pack, and will be used in pilot projects to showcase the future of digital broadcasting on mobile devices.

This is from the press release .

If you're concerned about phone size then the new generation of Symbian phones are a fair bit smaller than the Nokia 3650.

I wrote about smartphone sizes on Mobitopia the other day with a table of sizes here.

The P900 is slightly smaller than the "elderly" P800, the real surprise is the new Sendo X which is only marginally bigger than a Sony Ericsson T610 and packs far more capabilities.

Much better. Look here

Few FAQs for those BlueTooth newbies outthere...

BlueTooth Faq
Nokia BlueTooth Faq
Another BlueTooth Faq

I don't see what it so revolutionary about what Venu is doing, there have been small, cheap BTSs around for many years.

It could be that the center section has really fine pixels, but nah...

Yeah, I always found my palm very useful, but I never had it with me - too much trouble to carry everywhere!

So, I replaced my nokia 8210 and palmpilot with a nokia 7650 (specs here, you can't get them in north america.)

I'm a convert. The 7650 doesn't suffer too much from lack of a full keyboard or touch screen, and it not too big to carry everywhere. The OS is a dream, everything just works and is very intuitave. Its fun taking snaps or short videos with its built-in camera, and the quality is poor, but ok for fun shots. kinda webcam quality. 640x480.

The contacts/calendar function is just as good as the palm, and it seems to sync with outlook with less trouble. The games are very good, and there are lots of them on the web. Most java games are about 100kb and good fun. GPRS means I can use email, web and even FTP from anywhere. FTP is very handy as the phones internal memory is limited. Take a few pics and low on memory - no prob, just FTP them up to my machine at home!

The phone is actually nearly identical to the 3650, but without the fisher-price styling.

But your point about recent Nokia phones is true. 6110 was the last good looking and usable Nokia phone. And it works. I still have it.

I am the only one that find this mobile phone to be the ugliest ever developed?

That's not a review! That is quite literally a cut-and-paste from the Nokia press release!

Here's the original

Here's the copy.

Spot the difference.

If you look, they even include the asterisk from the Press Release, without copying the footnote it links to!

That's what's in the low-end of Nokia's line-up, like the Nokia 1100. It has friendly big buttons, weighs 86 g and the battery lasts a week with normal usage.

Well, I haven't seen much of a review on the site, but you can get the specs here: Nokia 7600 specs

Aside from the WCDMA support it does noto seem to offer much more than the 7650 or the 7250i (oh, 7250i doesn't have Bluetooth, and there's no radio in the 7600), so I don't get the bit about "Nokia's first attempt", it's just the next phone in Nokia's high-end line - nothing to get too excited about.

But does it run Linux ???

I think one of this babies running linux would be
a better pda.

Appearently Nokia doesn't understand that most sane people don't want to talk on giant crappy looking things. First a taco then this new atrocity, a laptop phone? (and no I don't mean a peripheral I mean holding a laptop up to your head and talking) Besides regular phones are getting more and more PDA like all the time, storing to do lists, memos, etc why don't they work on improving that?

Here's a link to Nokia's official product-page for it:

Nokia 7600

I like it: it's small, but they didn't try to shoehorn in a full keyboard for my sausage-like fingers to mash. The goofy key layout looks pretty optimal for texting with thumbs, actually.

Regarding "How do I use the PDA and talk at the same time?" -- use a $60 bluetooth headset.

What is it missing to make my perfect convergence unit?
a) Higher-res screen. According to the specs at Nokia, it's only 128x160, less than an older-generation Palm. Give me at least 320x240, and we're talking useful
b) Memory slot. I'm not terribly fussy. My camera is CF, my Palm is SD (but I don't own any devices for it, because it doesn't have good enough sound for me to want to download MP3s), my laptop supports SD and MS but not CF (which is solved with a PCMCIA card)
c) Maybe a stylus. I've gotten very used to touchscreen on my Palm -- it's sorely missed on my GPSr for selecting items and text entry.
d) Oh yeah, GPS receiver.

(a), (c) and (d) are mainly price issues. (b) means they want you to keep paying to download over the phone lines.

Review in The Register here.

Nokia page about the phone, with a better listing of fetures here.

I'm surprised nobody has pointed out the Nokia 6800. QWERTY keyboard, backlit, yadda yadda yadda...

I had a Nokia 5510 .That allowed me to use both my thumbs to type.I can type at an average speed on a keyboard, and on the 5510 I can find the keys easily enough(its QWERTY). Even then, my friends with an ordinary keypad (with T9en autocomplete) could atleast keep up with me most of the time (we timed it a couple of times). Now this new Intel keypad has all the keys, but you can only use one thumb to type ,moreover Im sure I'll have to look at the keypad to type since I wont know where the keys are (sure they are alphabetical but my thumb will not know that). So I think this will actually cut my typing speed even compared to the ordinary T9en enabled keypads
Not good for the Phone , but great for PDAs

Oh Jesus I can't wait to see some of the f00-f00's walking around when this cell phone comes out Purple & Pink?

Samsung is not the only one. Nokia has this model 6250 which is made to be shock proof and water proof.

You may drop it from 3 meters, and/or put it into water for 24 hours. (This according to the manual)

I own one of those, and I usually take it with me to the sauna / shower. And, I have dropped it numerous times, etc.

The only bad thing is that I can't use any regular cell phones anymore, I'd break them instantly.

Do you mean something like Nokia 6250? Anyways, at least Finnish hospitals don't allow GSM phones on their premises. Worry about mixing radio transmitters and heart monitors, I guess.

As this Register article and the phone tech specs (mentioned here) say, you must use non-conductive ink. What they don't say is where you find such an item -- though I don't know whether manufacturers specifically mention if their inks are conductive or not. Plus bear in mind that the cut-outs go between the inside of the phone and a transparent cover. I think custom prints will last fine; time will tell.

For those interested in such things, here is the full specs on Nokia's site.

What's up with Nokia keypad layouts, anyway?

Go here and look at some phones.

The 3650 are in a circle. I gave up rotary dial decades ago, I don't want to be reminded.

The 3510 is like a spider web or something.

The 8910i doesn't have any keys at all! (Just kidding... I know they're under a cover.)

This 3200 looks like it doesn't have enough keys.

The 2100 looks like a smiley face.

With all these funky keys, how does Nokia expect me to dial a freakin' phone while I'm driving my SUV at 90mph in the right lane eating two cheese burgers and a Coke?

I thought to myself: How on earth am I supposed to dial with those keys?

Am I the only one thinking about this ?

There's specs and some more PR stuff on the 3200 from the Nokia site.

Sounds like something that'll catch on with the younger crowd; I'm surprised that no one else has done it yet. On the other hand, faceplates are a big business with that same demographic, so maybe no one's tried it because they'd rather make you pay to customize.

Just in case anybody is interested how this thing actually looks:
http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,42298,00.html

If only you were right.

Nokia is responsible for this little UI abortion. Talk about utterly shitty design.

I guess it's neat to have so much functionality in one little device (the criticisms of the review notwithstanding) but I find that that the stupid B+W games on my standard Nokia are more than enough distraction if I'm bored and I have my phone with me. In fact, I'm really addicted to Bantumi even though I can beat it easily. Sometimes that's all you need to pass the time.

Correct me if im wrong, but doesnt Bluetooth ALWAYS ON, suck a lot of battery on mobiles?

Consider yourself corrected. :-) Bluetooth is designed to be a low power consumption technology. My phone lasts for about 5-7 days without a recharge with Bluetooth on constantly. (Less if I talk a lot, obviously) I think you might be confusing WiFi's power consumption with Bluetooth. They are designed for different purposes. WiFi has much higher power requirements and does suck batteries down much more quickly.

Yes, and they have ahd PVR like capabilities in Nokia Mediamaster 9902S. I personaly would like to see a terrestrial or cable version of 260S.

I was thinking the same thing. But check here for a list of countries where this PVR is currently available.

No Canada, or US for that matter. All European. I didn't see any specific reason why. Maybe it's a PAL/NTSC thing, or a patent thing, or simply an early stage of the product rollout thing. Too bad, it's a pretty nice looking box.

Seems as though Nokia has an entire line of Mediamaster products. Also notable is the inclusion of RS-232 ports on the products. That means you can control them off a computer or other devices. Anyone know if Nokia makes such control devices?

The company I work for ordered several Nokia firewall devices. They list for about $35,000 US.

Not one of them worked.

We ended up having their top tech staff in the country give us a visit, with everyone wondering why a six figure purchase should be quite so DOA. At first, there was a lot of head scratching, but it turned out that the machines had a variety of hardware and some software problems.

Allegedly these systems are well tested prior to shipping. At that price, you'd hope so! I hope they test these PVRs well, otherwise they're in for a world of support pain.

here. The flash intro linked in the article doesnt even provide any specifications.

While bluetooth is really cool, I'd be worried about being "bluejacked" ("bluespammed"?). With the current generation of bluetooth phones (US only?), you can supposedly scan for and send messages to any nearby bluetooth-enabled phone. There seems to be no way to prevent from getting spammed, aside from disabling bluetooth on your phone (which is a real bummer, as bluetooth headsets are really cool).


Not really a worry as far as I can tell. My phone allows you to specify whether Bluetooth broadcasts to everyone or whether it is "hidden" (much like hidding your SSID with WiFi). You also can specify which devices are allowed to pair with your phone, and request physical confirmation (you push a button) to authorize a connection. As long as you give your phone a unique name, I don't see spam as being a significant problem.

Interesting that these machines use Bluetooth. My Thinkpad has bluetooth built in and I've just picked up a Bluetooth phone (Nokia 6310i). Bluetooth is *really* slick. I love not having to get my phone out of my bag to check contacts or sync with my address book. I can send SMS messages from my computer via Mobile Master again without having to locate my phone or punch text into a keyboard not designed for it.

I'm now very seriously considering getting a car speaker set for my vehicle and I'm certain my next PDA will have bluetooth. My next laptop will probably be a Powerbook and I hope they have bluetooth built in by then because I'm going to want it. It's one of those nifty technologies you wonder why you didn't bother with before.

Oh, if you do have a Nokia phone, their Nokia Connection Manager software is a bit hit/miss as to whether it will work with a given bluetooth device. Doesn't work with my T30 but I've been able to work around it. YMMV.

Try the Nokia 6310i. It may be black and white but it's got Bluetooth, GPRS, HSCSD, Triband, Java and has impressive battery life (both idle and talking). Not to mention the easy to use UI and support for syncing to and from Outlook (tasks, calendar and, most importantly, contacts).

How about good, clear calls?
How about not magically losing signal when I walk in to another room?

If you're in Europe, this sounds like a network provider problem rather than a handset issue. If you aren't, then this is probably better answered by someone else.

Someone does. Take a look here. They just aren't available in the US. But if it was, rest assured, I WOULD get one myself. Only problem I saw with this was requiring Windows, and the small on-board storage for sound files, but otherwise very functional and handy.

The N-Gage phone platform is a good example where they help and encourage small developers.

The N-Gage phone platform is a good example where they help and encourage small developers.

Having used both Microsoft SmartPhone and Nokia Series 60 phones (7650 and 3650) I can tell you that Microsoft offering is garbage compared to the Nokia ones... UI is more intuitive and usable. Also Bluetooth, MIDP 2.0 and Symbian OS provides (for me) a more attractive and usable environment. Plus the phone is actually a lot more stabler.

The Microsoft SDK is a more usable though than the current Nokia one, but I was able to create a GPS program for my 3650 in three days. It uses Socket's Bluetooth GPS module for location information and downloads a map from Mapblast using GPRS connection - a bit like GpsDrive and one program done for SonyEricsson P800. You cannot do that in SmartPhone (current phones for not have Bluetooth).

So for Series 60 SDK:
Forum Nokia and your Bluetooth examples and community help from:
Berlin Factor
Newlc And one more thing there are more than three million Series 60 phones out there compared to measly 80000 Microsoft SmartPhones :-).

I work in the cell phone industry. From what I've seen, Nokia offers the most accessibility for developers wanting to write Java applications for phones. For several months now they have released SDK's and Development Suites. Looks like these would be farily easy to learn.
I'm not sure if Java applications will have access to items like the phonebook, or if they would be able to dial calls. I seem to remember they won't, its a security measure to make sure applications don't dial calls which could be charged for your bill (I didn't make the call, my hone did). I do believe, however, they would have limited access to hardware features such as a keypresses and the screen.

I work in the cell phone industry. From what I've seen, Nokia offers the most accessibility for developers wanting to write Java applications for phones. For several months now they have released SDK's and Development Suites. Looks like these would be farily easy to learn.
I'm not sure if Java applications will have access to items like the phonebook, or if they would be able to dial calls. I seem to remember they won't, its a security measure to make sure applications don't dial calls which could be charged for your bill (I didn't make the call, my hone did). I do believe, however, they would have limited access to hardware features such as a keypresses and the screen.

What are you talking about? Nokia's power cable hasn't changed since before the 5110 (I can't remember the model name). I work with Nokia's on a daily basis and even the new 6600 has exactly the same power lead and data cable slot.

Most manufacturers have standardised on data and power cables over their range in the last couple of years. Samsung have a square block, Siemens use a thin block, SonyEricsson have what looks like two hoops and Nokia is a round small female socket.

What Nokia does change frequently is the car adapters. The 6310i and 6100 may share the same power cable, but you can't use the same car kit.

What are you talking about? Nokia's power cable hasn't changed since before the 5110 (I can't remember the model name). I work with Nokia's on a daily basis and even the new 6600 has exactly the same power lead and data cable slot.

Most manufacturers have standardised on data and power cables over their range in the last couple of years. Samsung have a square block, Siemens use a thin block, SonyEricsson have what looks like two hoops and Nokia is a round small female socket.

What Nokia does change frequently is the car adapters. The 6310i and 6100 may share the same power cable, but you can't use the same car kit.

9 years old Nokia Communicator 9000 features VNC for 4 years. SSH is available only for 2 years old Nokia 9210 but I am using telnet of Nokia 9000i to my own GSM gate and therefore I am trusting just my GSM operator while using CHAP-protected cleartext PPP.

Nothing new in the world of Communicator-aware people. :-)

9 years old Nokia Communicator 9000 features VNC for 4 years. SSH is available only for 2 years old Nokia 9210 but I am using telnet of Nokia 9000i to my own GSM gate and therefore I am trusting just my GSM operator while using CHAP-protected cleartext PPP.

Nothing new in the world of Communicator-aware people. :-)

9 years old Nokia Communicator 9000 features VNC for 4 years. SSH is available only for 2 years old Nokia 9210 but I am using telnet of Nokia 9000i to my own GSM gate and therefore I am trusting just my GSM operator while using CHAP-protected cleartext PPP.

Nothing new in the world of Communicator-aware people. :-)