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Top Ten Ideas of '04: "Content Will be More Important than its Container" http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/01/tptn_cntr.html

Bloggers vs. Journalists is Over http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/15/berk_pprd.html

More Undercurrent: Action in Greensboro on Open Source Journalism http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/18/grns_nr.html

Greensboro Newspaper Goes Open Source: A Follow Up http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/21/grnsbr_flw.html

Top Ten Ideas of '04: "Content Will be More Important than its Container" http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/01/tptn_cntr.html

Bloggers vs. Journalists is Over http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/15/berk_pprd.html

Greensboro Newspaper Goes Open Source: A Follow Up http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/21/grnsbr_flw.html

More Undercurrent: Action in Greensboro on Open Source Journalism http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/18/grns_nr.html

Top Ten Ideas of '04: "Content Will be More Important than its Container" http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/01/tptn_cntr.html

Bloggers vs. Journalists is Over http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/15/berk_pprd.html

Greensboro Newspaper Goes Open Source: A Follow Up http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/21/grnsbr_flw.html

More Undercurrent: Action in Greensboro on Open Source Journalism http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/18/grns_nr.html

Top Ten Ideas of '04: "Content Will be More Important than its Container" http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/01/tptn_cntr.html

Bloggers vs. Journalists is Over http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/15/berk_pprd.html

Greensboro Newspaper Goes Open Source: A Follow Up http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/21/grnsbr_flw.html

More Undercurrent: Action in Greensboro on Open Source Journalism http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/18/grns_nr.html

Top Ten Ideas of '04: "Content Will be More Important than its Container" http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/01/tptn_cntr.html

Bloggers vs. Journalists is Over http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2005/01/15/berk_pprd.html

Greensboro Newspaper Goes Open Source: A Follow Up http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/21/grnsbr_flw.html

More Undercurrent: Action in Greensboro on Open Source Journalism http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthi nk/2004/12/18/grns_nr.html

> As I visit yet another site to find it slashdotted

Right now, Slashdot and the people who submit articles can just add .nyud.net:8090 to the URL and make use of the free distributed Coral Cache. This whole thing is paid for by the NSF, so you Americans might as well use your tax dollars.

I'd rather see people using that now, or mirrordot, than holding my breath for an http change that may never come or will require some third party software no one will use like the peercasting client.

• Some server room somewhere.
• Another server room somewhere else.
• Yet another server room.
• Still another server room, with lousy housekeeping.
• Elevator doors somewhere.
• Horse in a stall.

• Trophies and ribbons
• Heating, ventilating, and air conditioning equipment.
• Retail arcade.

But there are some pretty pictures available. Most of these look like vacation spots.

• Rooftop view of ocean with palm trees.
• The beach at Nice
• New England winter
• Beach on the Gulf of Mexico
• Climbing wall
• Snowboarding resort.

the best ideas really are the simple ones

1. The Legacy Media.

2. He said, she said, we said.

3. What the printing press did to the Catholic Church the blogging press does to the media church.

4. Open Source Journalism, or: "My readers know more than I do." (Dec. 28)

5. News turns from a lecture to a conversation. (Dec. 29)

6. "Content will be more important than its container." (Jan. 1)

7. "What once was good--or good enough--no longer is." (Jan.4)

8. "The victory of affinity over geography."

9. The Pajamahadeen.

10. The Reality-Based Community.

Yes, I was scratching my head a little after reading that, too.

But it does underscore one point: the best ideas are not really all that simple.

"The Internet reacts to censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore (frequently misattributed to Howard Rheingold)

BTW, how long do you think it will be before bittorrent-style downloads become standard in web browsers and web servers?

Try here to get a copy from the Coral network.

In order to reduce the slashdot effect on the author's server please consider downloading via coral links or via p2p networks like edonkey/gnutella.
Here are the coralized links
http://www.pjls16812.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk.nyud.net :8090/knowing-knoppix/pdf/knowing-knoppix.pdf/ Main Content
http://www.pjls16812.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk.nyud.net :8090/knowing-knoppix/pdf/cover.pdf/
http://www.pjls16812.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk.nyud.net :8090/knowing-knoppix/pdf/back.pdf/
The source of the book cannot be coralized as it is more then 4MB.

Basically the above URL's are coralized.That means that the content is cached to a nearby location.You can read more about coral's at http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/overview//

Here are the edonkey/magnet links to download via p2p networks

magnet:xturnsha1LNDDBUSI3H5ECNTIUP5RLSEX5GMLV44Edn knowing-knoppixpdf Main content via gnutella network.
ed2k:7Cfile7Cknowing-knoppixpdf7C40002537C349dd9c2 7aef6b60e65b231cecdb140c7C Main content via edonkey network.

Shouldn't these developers take a look at some of the research in this area?

Tangler, FreeHaven, and Publius come to mind.

Shouldn't these developers take a look at some of the research in this area?

Tangler, FreeHaven, and Publius come to mind.

The strange "DNS nightmare" is actually utilizing the Coral caching system. Featured here . The Coral system is a large scale distributed research network of 400 servers and you can find out more information about it here. This is actually an attempt at preventing the "SlashDot effect" on the poor webmaster who runs this site.

I really don't think they mean to label visitors as being "abusers". It seems more like a poorly worded statement written in great haste (no doubt as their server was smoking and their ISP was freaking out). The site is cohosted hosted with theplanet.com and I'm pretty sure ipodlinix.org will either have to pay for the extra bandwidth use caused by this /. article or atleast shut down for a while. Money I'm sure they don't have. To add insult to injury their front index page is dynamically generated via php causing an extra, much unneeded load on the server.

Since /. is a commercial site and attempts to generate revenue from advertising IMO the responsible and moral thing to do would be to try to do something to minimize it's impact on smaller sites. Maybe offer to mirror the site for a few days. In short, is it fair for /. to make money for every page view while the FOSS project site in question loses what little money they have for every corresponding page view? IMO, no.

/. atleast needs to think about warning sites that they will be "featured" in an article and offer to use a site caching service like Coral. Or warn the site to "Coralize" themselves quickly to minimize damage.

Of course it's not my server, that would be suicide! Or fun... Nevermind, see this URL for more information:

http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/

Ahem, and to stay on-topic... maybe they are using SkyOS or whatever it is called.

Had you been browsing with Coral, the slashdotting wouldn't have been a problem. Someone should make a Coral bookmarklet.

or, you can "just" do what David Mazieres does, and have an email address that looks like a message ID:
<12297.830286027.1@cs.nyu.edu> (just an example, not his actual address)

More spammers have to filter those, or else they cull too many (?) bogus addresses.

More readable URL:

http://www.gripe2ed.com.nyud.net:8090/scoop/story/ 2004/12/20/8257/4850

See http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/ for information about the Coral peer-to-peer content distribution network.
Use it by just appending ".nyud.net:8090" to the host portion of any URL.

What you want is Coral.

There's some brilliant web coverage of this topic available. Just look at the animated GIF (via CORALIZED link) at

the site http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov.nyud.net:8090

to see how dramatic this is. For more, including the GIF, see:

http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov.nyud.net:8090

(For those who don't know: The above links to an automatically cached version of the pages, as described here. If for some reason the coralized links are don't work, you can try the orignal by changing the link from http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov.nyud.net:8090/something. .. to http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/something..., but this is so well presented they don't deserve a /.'ing, so try the cached version first.)

Why don't more people jump on the Coralize bandwagon? i.e. If they won't mirror, why not "Coralize" the links in the stories?

Just append .nyud.net:8090 to the domain you're after, and presto, automagic load balancing.

http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/overview/

for more info.

Use the Coralized link, or Mozilla will to ask for more donations to pay for the bandwidth ;-). BTW, the Firefox coral extension rules!

Just remove the 'nyud.net:8090' out of the link. You'll be able to connect to the site directly. And here is why the 'nyud.net:8090' has been added.

FYI--Those links that were provided were Coral Cache's of the original links. I imagine that the submitter used the Coral Cache in order to prevent the original web sites from being slashdotted into oblivion.

Most of the 3D user interfaces that people usually mention are designed for 3D file system visualization. As others have pointed out, it is not clear that 3D adds any value for navigating the hierarchical structure of current file systems.

It gets much more interesting when you combine 3D navigation with Zooming User Interfaces (ZUIs). For example, Zoom Quilt is a collaborative art project based on Macromedia Flash that illustrates what a 3D ZUI might look and feel like. ZUIs work by creating an intuitive information landscape. The user moves "further away" to get an overview, or "closer" for more detail, while keeping a sense of orientation and structure that traditional pop-up windows and dialogs can't match (see research papers and Java demo). Zoom Quilt was assembled from different frames of content contributed by various participants. For another Flash-based example of a 3D zooming experience, see also the older Christmas Zoom.

Most of the 3D user interfaces that people usually mention are designed for 3D file system visualization. As others have pointed out, it is not clear that 3D adds any value for navigating the hierarchical structure of current file systems.

It gets much more interesting when you combine 3D navigation with Zooming User Interfaces (ZUIs). For example, Zoom Quilt is a collaborative art project based on Macromedia Flash that illustrates what a 3D ZUI might look and feel like. ZUIs work by creating an intuitive information landscape. The user moves "further away" to get an overview, or "closer" for more detail, while keeping a sense of orientation and structure that traditional pop-up windows and dialogs can't match (see research papers and Java demo). Zoom Quilt was assembled from different frames of content contributed by various participants. For another Flash-based example of a 3D zooming experience, see also the older Christmas Zoom.

FWIW, the phish-alike mirror, is a feature... http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/.

I posted the link pretty early, and was unsure of how much traffic it would generate. Coralizing links seems to be a farily good option for slashdot traffic, as much of it originates from US universities.

*shrug*

Thanks for pointing it out all the same.

"It doesn't seem to want to deal with text files (there is no import feature for the Palm Desktop notepad or memo pad, for example)."

You mean 'in Windows'. In the Linux and UNIX world, there are dozens of choices in how you want to talk to your Palm.

For "text files", nothing beats Plucker when carrying text, ebooks, manuals, HTML pages, HOWTO documents, and other items. The LDP even carries all of their HOWTO documents in Plucker format. Its the only format that is freely available, openly documented, and very extensible.

Just look at how beautiful Plucker is with the PHP documentation as one example...

"Also there seems to be no way to copy arbitrary files to the Palm - all files must be "owned" by an application. With a 256MB SD card I expected to use it to copy files between work and home."

You must mean '...in Windows' again. In the non-Windows side, including OSX, we have pilot-link which talks natively to your Palm and can do all kinds of things that the Windows tools cannot (including operating at 40% faster in some cases).

Commercial companies such as MarkSpace are using pilot-link (the core library of pilot-link anyway) in their commercial product, MissingSync which runs on OSX.

For desktop replacements, PIMs, and other tools, there are dozens of alternatives. Here are several, in no particular order (with Coralized links to protect the bandwidth of the various projects):

• Kpilot
• PilotManager
• J-Pilot
• Evolution (an Outlook clone)
• Multisync

There are many others, but these are the top contenders. They all also rely on the libraries and language bindings provided by pilot-link to communicate with your Palm device.

"Has anyone else noticed these or other shortcomings and have figured out ways around them?"

Yes, stop using Windows. Stop using the featureless proprietary tools provided by these vendors who only listen to their profit margins, not to their userbase.

Seriously

Like Coral?

Use a Coralized link

http://pair.offshore.ai.nyud.net:8090/pic/

It's coral-cached if needed. Seems to be holding up so far.
http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=479
be comes...
http://www.bluelemur.com.nyud.net:8090/index.php?p =479
likewise,
http://rawstory.com/images/pdfs/CC_Af fidavit_12060 4.pdf
becomes
http://rawstory.com.nyud.net:8090/images/pdfs/CC_A ffidavit_120604.pdf

(See http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/)

Hey all,

Here's a Coralized copy of the site:
http://linvdr.org.nyud.net:8090/projects/linvdr/in dex.en.php
http://linvdr.org.nyud.net:8090/projects/linvdr/mi rrors.php

It's strange that their site would return a 409 message, which doesn't seem appropriate for the type of error that the web page shows. A forbidden code (403) I could understand, but not a conflict code.

Although it doesn't appear this is what occurred here, I wanted to note that if Coral has an object cached (after receiving an HTTP OK - 200), then the site starts returning 404s or 503s (and some other error conditions) after the cached object expires, Coral will continue to serve the stale objects out of its cached for another day or so.

Unfortunately, some sites do not play well with HTTP response codes. For example, a few days ago, instead of issuing a 503 message saying "user exceeded bandwidth", one of the ISPs of a slashdotted page issued instead a redirct (302) to a well-formed page (200) happily reporting this error condition. Correctly, Coral happily replaced the cached object with this page.

As an aside, if people have comments, questions, suggestions, etc. about Coral, please feel free check out our various mailing lists here. Your input is appreciated.

Ya I wish people would learn to use http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/overview/ when they post links to sites.

Use it like this: like this

More about Coral: http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/coral/.

This looks like an interesting hybrid of Coral and BitTorrent. Coral is nice in that you don't need to install any client-side software to take advantage of it. This one it appears you do need to install a client-side proxy, which is a little scary.

This system seems to utilize a client that takes on roles of both the BitTorrent tracker and the Coral caching nodes. I wonder how the client caches cooordinate? Any centralized server involved here?

Another firewall-busting HTTP serving system is YouServ (coral link), though geared more at sharing personal content instead of content requiring "super distribution".

Yo. Link with this instead.

[CORAL-LINK]/serpents-wall/

Perfect time for CORAL

Just Coral Cache it.

Forgive us for having been propagandized into hearing how "missile defense" will protect us from ICBMS for the past 25 years. Hearing every year or two about "successful tests" that turn out to be abject failures, lies that keep the corporate welfare billions cranking out for defense contractors, even during years when the programs were actually halted by Congress. Despite your assurances, jazzed up with fanboy jargon, WMD experts project North Korea's nuclear ICBM program to be the real thing about now, or soon. Iran, too. And even happy talk about "only Mach 6" (3,500MPH) is just more bankrupting wishful thinking that fattens defense corporations while atrophying the diplomacy that actually keeps the world safe.

Of course, you're an Anonymous Coward strutting your unquestioning faith in fascist corporate welfare terminology on Slashdot. No reason to think the bar is still too high, because the Pentagon marketers have "made progress" in white papers, which of course equals "success". In fact, it's quite likely that, despite their worthlessness for any purpose but enriching defense contractors, bankrupting superpowers and spreading fear, you're a fan of Star Wars systems as much for their connection to the movie, as for your possible employment by the industry. Let me clue you: Vader's lightsaber didn't work just because it lit up and looked scary. Even though it did open the floodgates on big budgets, it was just a fantasy. In real life, the complexity of these systems vastly overwhelms any calculus for their use that requires protecting billions of people. We're better off reapplying the hundreds of billions of dollars, millions of hours of smart people, and endless propaganda towards building peace among competing nations than in pretending we've gotten rich defending from them, until the final test proves us all apocalyptically wrong.

I would argue that most physical scientists will disagree with much of what is claimed by "philosphers of science". Violently, or at least vehemently, in the case of the "French folks" you mentioned - see the Sokal affair.

"This phenomenon could generate a dramatic revolution in technology, which would result from a dramatic paradigm shift in science. Anomalies are the key to all paradigm shifts"

This illustrates a classic logic problem: though perhaps all advances come from "anomalies", not all anomalies imply advances. Or put another way, Einstein may have been thought a cook, but that does not imply that all cooks are Einsteins. (Of course, not even Einstein was thought to be a cook - his theory very quickly was accepted).

Different techniques for generating computer game animation are always appreciated - animation can contribute hugely towards the realism of the game, making even basic character models appear 'alive', but (like audio) you can't exactly distill good animation into a few tech-spec bullet points.

For instance, System Shock 2's 3D character modelling was terrible, but its monsters became eerily lifelike (and far more scary) thanks to the motion-captured animation. Capturing 'real' movements as in motion capture and the video stuff as in the article is one thing, automatically generated parametric animation is another, something which may (or may not) revolutionise the gaming world.

Okay, it's not going to completely replace old-fashioned animation, but it can still be an intriguing way of gluing those 'phrases' together. I'm reminded of some of Ken Perlin's work in this - where simple stick-figures move in a much more 'real' manner than the near-photorealistic characters in many modern games. Apparently his faces were the inspiration for the facial animation system in Half-Life 2.

Oh, and incidentally, if anyone happens to be a game animator with a bit of free time, click on my signature's link. Greatly appreciated. :-)

Different techniques for generating computer game animation are always appreciated - animation can contribute hugely towards the realism of the game, making even basic character models appear 'alive', but (like audio) you can't exactly distill good animation into a few tech-spec bullet points.

For instance, System Shock 2's 3D character modelling was terrible, but its monsters became eerily lifelike (and far more scary) thanks to the motion-captured animation. Capturing 'real' movements as in motion capture and the video stuff as in the article is one thing, automatically generated parametric animation is another, something which may (or may not) revolutionise the gaming world.

Okay, it's not going to completely replace old-fashioned animation, but it can still be an intriguing way of gluing those 'phrases' together. I'm reminded of some of Ken Perlin's work in this - where simple stick-figures move in a much more 'real' manner than the near-photorealistic characters in many modern games. Apparently his faces were the inspiration for the facial animation system in Half-Life 2.

Oh, and incidentally, if anyone happens to be a game animator with a bit of free time, click on my signature's link. Greatly appreciated. :-)

If you found in a survey that 90% of all serial killers chew gum, you may have found a correlation.

Evidence of a correlation is valuable, and shouldn't be dismissed simply because it doesn't imply causation. it is a clue that can be used to search for hidden variables that may actually be causal factors (though nothing is ever so clean as strictly causal or non-causal in the real world).

Don't hide your head in the sand arguing about "correlation vs. causation" simply because you like video games and want to keep them legal. Actual demonstration of causality is extremely difficult to do, and most inferences we make on a daily basis as humans are done on the basis of correlation, because it's actually a pretty good heuristic.

However, if you can show that there isn't even a correlation, that is a much more powerful argument to use in shaping public policy than just claiming that no one has proved that video games cause violence.

...of cosmic ray air-showers.

http://www.meyerweb.com.nyud.net:8090/eric/tools/s 5/
You guys should stop using the google cache and use Coral caches instead.

Of http://authortravis.tripod.com available here, for those that don't know Coral yet.

The Coral page
Coral plugins for browsers

You're just not in on it yet. Start using it.

The Coral page
Coral plugins for browsers

You're just not in on it yet. Start using it.