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The meaning of the word "mandated" in this context is irrelevant. As this article explains, copying is not a constitutional right.

1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz Northwood chips are going to be available soon; these will likely be reaching some nice overclocks (maybe up to even 2.4) and these are the chips to get. They're also the only ones most of us will be able to afford, given the way Intel prices their chips (see here).

I'm using an Athlon 1 GHz now and getting nearly a 40% overclock out of it, on an Iwill KK266-R board (KT133A SDRAM), at 155*9; it's not worth it to me to upgrade to an Athlon XP or a DDR chipset.

Overclockers.com, probably my favorite site, has daily bits of news and a lot of information lately on Northwoods. Apparently Intel is working on a dual-channel DDR chipset which should be a treat.

1.6 GHz and 1.8 GHz Northwood chips are going to be available soon; these will likely be reaching some nice overclocks (maybe up to even 2.4) and these are the chips to get. They're also the only ones most of us will be able to afford, given the way Intel prices their chips (see here).

I'm using an Athlon 1 GHz now and getting nearly a 40% overclock out of it, on an Iwill KK266-R board (KT133A SDRAM), at 155*9; it's not worth it to me to upgrade to an Athlon XP or a DDR chipset.

Overclockers.com, probably my favorite site, has daily bits of news and a lot of information lately on Northwoods. Apparently Intel is working on a dual-channel DDR chipset which should be a treat.

The advantage is that you can throw in whatever hardware you need. The disadvantage is the monitor, which you still would have to transport seperately but if you buy a cheap LCD monitor this could be a good soultion because you'd have an easy-to-transport PC that is cheaper than a laptop and provides the power you need.

...They've tackled this problem before, and they have a number of requirements that kind of sync with yours....

• Portability
• Durability
• Increased ventilation(No, you're probably not overclocking, but do you want your system to hang mid-performance from a heat overload in some hot/sweaty dance club?)
• Specialty hardware requirements
• No need of a battery

Take a look here or here* for PCs built into a standard suitcase chassis.

* - If you like the base case used in this one, I think they're currently on sale at Menards (Hardware chain) for @$20. I'd go for something a LOT sturdier, personally. Take a look at Pelican's line of resin/plastic cases - They're even watertight, if you can resist knocking holes in it for your card outputs. A safe assumption would be 'Build it like it's going to be flung around by luggage handlers.'

I think one of the best water coolers I have ever seen was when these guys built a heat exchanger on the principle of heat loss through water evaporation. Very nice concept, and it approached the idea of cooling water down properly in the first place.

Check out this article to see why you are dead on and why the hardware makers hope it isn't so. The only other point I'd make is if you can make it smaller, that will be a plus, too.

Yeah, it's cute little machine. :) I just found out about the via c3 myself, it's a promising lower power, low noise chip, I wish more people would push chips in that direction, as I'm around computers enough that I'm starting to despise how noisy they are, especially if you want to play music where the dynamics actually matter. :) I recently put a zalman flower in my 1.33ghz Athlon box and now the worst thing is that the hard drives make too much noise now!

It's a definite improvement over the Aluminum tornado that I had in the box before, it even runs 6 deg C cooler now.

This may gradually become less of a problem. Some heatsink manufacturers (read - the ones making really huge blocks) are starting to abandon conventional ZIF socket clips in favor of bolting the damn thing directly to the mobo. The new Alpha PAL8045 is one such example.

Advantage - the thing is much more secure, and screwing the heatsink on and off can be a damn site easier than wrestling with those stupid clips. Disadvantage: not all mobos have holes drilled in the appropriate places, and taking a power tool to a motherboard right next to the CPU is not my idea of a relaxing pasttime.

... familiar. Anyways, here are some obligatory links:

Koolance
Overclockers.com
[H]ard|OCP

I don't know why people think that Tom's is a particularly good source anymore. These days they really seem to be slow off the mark...

I don't know why people think that Tom's is a particularly good source anymore. These days they really seem to be slow off the mark...

Look, I agree with this guy, and not with many, many other comments, did you people not notice the suggestion in the Toms Hardware Guide test that it was done with a cpu _NOT_ running at it's recommended speed?

I reguarly overclock my CPU's, and I know, that if something stupid like a cpu fan falling off blows up my cpu, IT WAS MY FAULT, not the manufacturer who has already stated the recomended maximum speed of their cpu.

And the suggestion that the motherboard makes a difference, LOOK PEOPLE, if you aren't going to read, don't comment, the thermal diode is ON the core! 2nd search result on google, in the very first sentence of the article!

A friend of mine had a pre palomino Athlon and he run it for 2 weeks without a fan, with NO permanent damage, and this computer is only used for watching DivX's and playing the latest games.

And, as a personal opinion, in the last 12 months, toms has been awful, and, I hate to say it, but completely wrong, when it doesn't suit the people with the big dollars, but we can't blame poor Tom, he get stuff before release, and has to keep the right people happy, or they probably wouldn't give the stuff too him. What a screwed up world...

I disagree

http://www.overclockers.com/tips665/

read it... you are the one who needs to get your priorities straight. (besides it is not 20,000 more like 6,500 not that that makes it any less tragic, just less sensationalized)

www.overclockers.com also has the here. In it they talk about how this will effect "homegrown" computer websites. They also compare computer magazines to computer websites.

www.overclockers.com also has the here. In it they talk about how this will effect "homegrown" computer websites. They also compare computer magazines to computer websites.

http://www.overclockers.com/articles154/

about wood computer cases by TechStyle Computers

There was this Ask Slashdot story on the EMF questions as well.

And Tech Style was featured in a slash story here

Check out the Vinny the Vampire comic strip

http://www.overclockers.com/articles154/

about wood computer cases by TechStyle Computers

There was this Ask Slashdot story on the EMF questions as well.

And Tech Style was featured in a slash story here

Check out the Vinny the Vampire comic strip

Overclocker's dot com

they can, will, and in some states must help you

Overclockers.com

on a side note, I just ordered a waterblock from dangerden.com so I can watercool my pc. whee!
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The art of flying is throwing yourself at the ground...

Gee, a homemade air cooling device is pretty cool, but if you're going to do it yourself, why not spend your time making the most kick-ass cooling system you can? There are several places that sell kits, and lots of good information. If you're going to make your own cooler, at least do it in style!

-Ted

ever heard of underclocking? me neither. it's an effective way to waste most of your computing power, so only idiots or people with too much time do it. for more, see here: http://www.overclockers.com/tips05/

jon

Everytime there is a story about overclocking on Slashdot the naysayers flood the forums with comments about how terrible an idea it is to overclock. They say things like "You only save a little bit and spend more on cooling..." or "Your chip will be unstable and then have a shorter life."

I would like to clear some things up about overcloking for the uninformed people.

Firstly, the stability issue. Overclockers hate instability. Most of us go way out of our way to make sure that the system we are running is not going to be acting all flaky when we overclock. The whole point of overclocking is to get the most out of the system, and if your system is freezing all of the time you aren't getting much out of it are you? We accomplish this by running benchmarks and torture tests to make sure that the overclock isn't adversely affecting performance or stability, if it is then we step it off.

Second, with the exception of a few extreme instances, most overclockers save money for the same performance. We don't all go out and buy peltiers and liquid cooled heatsinks. Most of us spend more on cooling than the average person but not by much, and our cooling system usually lasts through several cpus. Compare the $50 hsf I'm using now with your $10, so I spent $40 more than average, big deal, I saved $300 on the cpu and I'll use this cooler with my next upgrade too.

Which brings me to the savings. We save a lot of money for the performance. When I purchased my Celeron300A I spent $109 for it and after I overclocked it, the performance I got out of the chip in games at the time was almost identicle to a P2-450 which was selling for well over $600.
Now thats about as good as overclocking gets, but there are many other examples of chips since then that have done almost as well.

That celeron300a I spoke of is still running at the same overclocked speed as the day I put it in, and it's rock solid. You want stability, there you go.

On top of all of this, overclocking is fun! No really. It's an enjoyable experience, you learn a lot about hardware, and at the end of the day you can be happy that you have a screaming fast system for a fraction of the price you could have spent.

If you want to think about overclocking try checking out some of the sites around the net:
www.overclockers.com
www.hardocp.com
www.anandtech.com
www.tomshardware.com

Try it, you might like it.

oak
pine (?)
more wood
legos
more crazy ones

I've seen more. There's that article about the gameboy in pine that was on /. not too long ago...
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> Incidentally, what did it take to o/c the 366 to 550?

2 Things: Cooling, and Power.

1. A heatsink. I mean a REAL heatsink: www.3dfxcool.com/alpha7ho.htm
Don't let the website name fool you, they sell cpu coolers (along with video card fans)

2. The 2nd cpu needed a little extra juice. Had to bump the voltage up to 2.10v. Also, in the BIOS, turn Error Speed Hold off (forgeting the exact name, but should be close enough), and also select Custom MHz: FrontSideBus speed: 100 Mhz.

I've been running the dual system since last Nov. I've had NT4 and NT5 crash about once every 2 months, due to a "IRQ not handled exception." Never did track this one down.

You might want to check the overclockers database to see if the week your cpu was made, can be overclocked: Overclockers Database
Main site is here:www.overclockers.com

Also, make sure you upgrade the Abit BP6 Bios.
www.bp6.com

I think my next upgrade will be dual 1 GHz P3's. I want my system to be 100% rock solid (allthough I am EXTREMELY HAPPY with the c366 @ 550 ;-)

Cheers

• This is Linux, why isn't this free?

  I was bemused by the couple Linux areas. No freebies there, best I could tell. Everything was for sale, at quite capitalist prices. Get a 10-inch penguin: $20. T-shirts, sweatshirts, $20-25. Guess you have to make your money somewhere.

  They had someone in a penguin suit meandering and falling down, which is what I thought Linux wasn't supposed to do.:)

On my home LAN I have no problems streaming MP3 files from one computer to another. I can listen to music on my webcam machine streamed over the LAN from downstairs at my primary machine. Sure, there's a lot of data being transferred, but it doesn't really interfere with other traffic on the home LAN - the MP3 streaming is all within a firewall, which manages Internet access for...it's now five client machines...off of a single cable modem connection.

I wonder how well this would underclock?

Laser Cooling basically works like this. You take a bunch of atoms, and cool them down to about 4K by pouring liquid helium over them. At this temperature they don't move around very much - temperature is a measure of the atoms' motion - and can be trapped into a small area by magnetic fields where they oscillate back and forth along a single axis.

While they're in this small area a laser can be shone at them along this axis. If it is at the right frequency, the atoms will only absorb a photon when they are moving towards the laser source. With the absorbtion of momentum the atoms motion is slowed down still further. (it will reradiate the photon, but in a random direction and the recoil will be absorbed by the magnetic field of the trap.) After absorbing a few photons the atoms' motion along the trap axis has been slowed down to a point where their temperature is getting close to 0K.

However this probably won't gain anyone infamy at overclockers.com, I doubt the old Celeron 300A likes being put in strong magnetic fields.

FriendTech Socket370 to FCPGA converter

This card allows you to put Coppermine processors on normal Socket 370 boards, which normally don't support FCPGA processors. For more info on overclocking and these cards (in the future), I suggest HardOCP and Overclockers.

Here's a HardwareCentral review of the Celeron 2 (today must be the day NDAs were lifted; look for other butt-kicking sites like Thresh's and Sharky's to maybe have something on it later today.

Here's BP6.com, an excellent reference for those of you with that funky Abit board. Check out the video preview of the Powerleap FC-PGA adapters - basically they plug into Coppermines and allow two of them (new stepping ONLY) to run in SMP mode. Of course, your BP6 would be running at 100MHz FSB by default - and overclocking well past 100MHz (which is what is required to unlock the true potential of Coppermines) is flaky on any BX board.

Coppermines seem, for me, an excellent buy. I have a 500E running at 733Mhz (147MHz FSB) on an MSI MS-6309 Apollo Pro 133A board. Excellent performance, and super stable.

The 66MHz FSB for these new Celerons is a double-edged sword. It's good that the 66MHz+ gap is open, which is really what made the original Celerons such good overclockers; but besides the performance hit (naturally), the lower FSB means a higher multiplier. The internal multiplier (locked by Intel) for the 600MHZ Celeron 2 is 9.0x. That's ass-high, people. I don't think many motherboards currently support that. At the very least I think a BIOS upgrade is in order, unless you're absoluely sure the board can handle that high a multiplier - but getting back to the performance hit, not only is your memory, etc. running at only 66MHz, but with the high multiplier your chip is running 9 times faster than your system. That's a low of waiting on its part.

My advice? Get a 500E or 550E (both can be had for around $200, if you know where to look) and overclock them beyond insanity. 150MHz FSB is not out of the question for these chips, especially the ones with the new core stepping. I'll be going for a 600E (FC-PGA) as soon as school lets out for me for the Summer.

For a truly bent journalistic look at the Coppermines, check out this piece I wrote for the fantastic Overclockers.com over Winter Break.

Here's a HardwareCentral review of the Celeron 2 (today must be the day NDAs were lifted; look for other butt-kicking sites like Thresh's and Sharky's to maybe have something on it later today.

Here's BP6.com, an excellent reference for those of you with that funky Abit board. Check out the video preview of the Powerleap FC-PGA adapters - basically they plug into Coppermines and allow two of them (new stepping ONLY) to run in SMP mode. Of course, your BP6 would be running at 100MHz FSB by default - and overclocking well past 100MHz (which is what is required to unlock the true potential of Coppermines) is flaky on any BX board.

Coppermines seem, for me, an excellent buy. I have a 500E running at 733Mhz (147MHz FSB) on an MSI MS-6309 Apollo Pro 133A board. Excellent performance, and super stable.

The 66MHz FSB for these new Celerons is a double-edged sword. It's good that the 66MHz+ gap is open, which is really what made the original Celerons such good overclockers; but besides the performance hit (naturally), the lower FSB means a higher multiplier. The internal multiplier (locked by Intel) for the 600MHZ Celeron 2 is 9.0x. That's ass-high, people. I don't think many motherboards currently support that. At the very least I think a BIOS upgrade is in order, unless you're absoluely sure the board can handle that high a multiplier - but getting back to the performance hit, not only is your memory, etc. running at only 66MHz, but with the high multiplier your chip is running 9 times faster than your system. That's a low of waiting on its part.

My advice? Get a 500E or 550E (both can be had for around $200, if you know where to look) and overclock them beyond insanity. 150MHz FSB is not out of the question for these chips, especially the ones with the new core stepping. I'll be going for a 600E (FC-PGA) as soon as school lets out for me for the Summer.

For a truly bent journalistic look at the Coppermines, check out this piece I wrote for the fantastic Overclockers.com over Winter Break.

Check here to find out

(hope I got the URL right)

- Rei