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Re:What about IB-E and Haswell?
I'm in the exact same boat as you, i7 920 clocked to the Moon here on water. Make no mistake the Sandy CPUs are a good bit quicker, I have one of those too. But I've been waiting for Ivy for my main desktop. SB-E is too damned expensive for the 6 core I want and has no H.264 code in it apparently. I'd love the added cores though! I feel pretty good after reading this -> http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei7_3770k/4.htm
Note they compare against an overclocked 920 running about the same speed I am now - the new Ivy kicks it's ass. Works for me! Now I just need to figure out what Z77 mobo to go with and what video card to go with, I'm running a card as old as my CPU and nothing current generation sold doesn't kick it's ass!
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Re:Let me get this straight...
forgot this -> http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/intel_corei7_3770k/4.htm
Note that they overclock this CPU as well as the existing one I mentioned. The deltas are impressive IMO.
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Review Roundup
A roundup of reviews from the usual major sites as well as others not mentioned in the summary above: Overclockers Review, Anandtech Review, Anandtech Undervolting/Overclocking, HardwareSecrets, Bit-tech, PCPer, Tweaktown, Hard OCP, The Inquirer, Techspot, Computer Shopper, Tom's Hardware, ExtremeTech, PC Mag, Overclockers Club, and Guru 3d
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Re:Good write ups, good card
According to this graph the difference at idle is almost 90W, or a difference of $180 over 2 years if you leave your PC on 24x7. And I was talking about during the summer, where the added BTU's are paid for in power draw and then again in AC draw.
P.S. My furnace is 93%/16 SEER and my house is only 1200sq ft so in percentage terms it can be a large cost. -
Re:That's "frequency", not speed
for once, quite accurate by the anon. Reviews about these have been inconsistent, some citing bad overclocking potential and generally being not for enthusiasts.
Meanwhile, others seem to state it's a full sweep and/or basically great .
I'm wondering if this is another scenario of handpicked engineering samples or not.
I'm not at all convinced that this is great, or horrible. Anyone care to weigh in with better comments than kdawson?
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Re:No, not really
That's where you're wrong, according to this, the random reads at least on the smaller files are significantly faster than a normal HDD.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/seagate_momentus_xt_500gb/4.htm
I was going by Anandtech's results:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3734/seagates-momentus-xt-review-finally-a-good-hybrid-hdd/3
Of course, if you go in 1MB files, it's going to be faster (assuming the file isn't fragmented).
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Re:No, not really
Second, random read and write speeds are just as abysmal as traditional HD's.
That's where you're wrong, according to this, the random reads at least on the smaller files are significantly faster than a normal HDD.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/seagate_momentus_xt_500gb/4.htm
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Tests
Lots and lots of tests and bechmarks. Looking good.
Intel 'Lynnfield' Core i5 750 and Core i7 870 Performance Testing Introduction :: TweakTown
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Intel Core i5 And Core i7: Intel?s Mainstream Magnum Opus : Introduction - Review Tom's Hardware
Intel Lynnfield Core i5-750 & Core i7-870 Processor Review
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nVidia nForce 4, Silicon Image, and JMicron
I had a very bad experience with my old nVidia nForce4 Chipset motherboard RAID chip while using it and just recently found that none of the old or new drivers work correctly when the Intel X25-M 80GB SSD is plugged into the motherboard causing my Windows OS to freeze during boot-up when the driver is initialized or the RAID capability just doesn't work at all. I even wrote up an entire account of this problem in a few threads, one on nVidia's forum and another on HardOCP Forum to warn users about trying to use Intel SSDs with their older nForce4 hardware that I linked to below.
The Silicon Image 3114 PCI to SATA 1 controller chip has serious issues also that caused it to drop my RAID-5 and destroy the 2 TB array. It has issues with PCI bus contention and also is incompatible with the Creative Labs X-Fi PCI sound card on the same bus causing audio stuttering and pops. A few people mentioned that the issue might be IRQ sharing but I tried the sound card in all different PCI slots with different IRQs and the problem was still there. Jet another bad experience with off-brand storage chips.
My current Asus P6T motherboard for Intel Core i7 with the JMicron JMB363 PCIe to SATA chip and JMicron JMB322 SATA 1 to 2 Port Multiplier chip are also having issues with the internal SATA ports where one of them is port-multiplied and if a hard drive and an LG Blu-Ray optical drive is connected at the same time to the internal ports the optical drive will randomly disappear and re-appear in the operating system.
So Marvell is not the one and only manufacturer of storage interconnect chips to have these problems. My experience is that pretty much all of them have issues to varying degrees driving users mad when they realize after purchasing the motherboard and trying to use these chips.
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Re:Easy solution
Because of this I discarded NAS and similar solutions.
I have external hard drives and I plug them as I need using USB. Put them away from kids, sun and humidity and they will be fine.according to
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/dlink_dns323/13.htm
a DNS-323 NAS consumes 8w on idle with the disks powered down (goes up to 21-23 when writing to 2 drives) which is not much at all.
As much as I agree that using a full PC as a NAS is extremely energy inefficient, the current crop of embedded linux low power devices (say, including things like wifi routers etc.) are quite ok from an environmental standpoint in my book.
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Re:Braille Quake
Or if you're feeling truly adventurous you can take dismantle the old laptop, submerge it in mineral oil, and try to overclock the cr*p out of it http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=70943
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Re:No....
Not many people use a gamepad in FPSes on PCs. That's true.
There are special gamer keyboards. The Wolfclaw, the Pro Gamer Command Pad, the DX1, Themaltake Flare, and more offer a different setup of keys that some gamers really find advantageous. They can be really nice for a serious RTS player, too, despite being marketed mostly for FPS players.
There are special mice just for gamers. Take a look at Trust's Gamer Mouse, the Razer Copperhead, and even the Zalman pistol-grip mouse.
I have a flight stick with seven buttons, trigger, a top hat, and throttle. I use it for flight games, and I like it much more for Mechwarrior 4 or many other vehicle-combat games than a keyboard and mouse.
I have a racing wheel and pedal set for car games. I have a game pad for my PC for the PC versions of Madden-type games. There are even more ways to command a PC, though.
Some gamers use a voice command system for some functions, although that can interfere with speaking to your teammates through Teamspeak or Ventrilo.
Some use things like the Fragpedal from Good Work Systems. It lets you have four extra buttons (two per pedal and two pedals) you can use without moving your fingers. I've considered buying that one specifically for fall prone/get up, crouch, reload, and strafe. There are also the Kinesis foot switches, although each USB connection with those is only good for up to three buttons. Perhaps I'd leave reload on the mouse or keyboard with the Savant Elite Triple Action. You can hook up multiple Savant Elite pedals, but the Fragpedal is less expensive already. Maybe I'll just see if I can get used to my car game gas and brake pedal set for FPSes before making such an investment. There are even more expensive versions of this concept out there, mostly meant for people with disabilities or to cut down on wrist strain. They could certainly be useful in gaming, though.
In the PC world, you're expected to invest in the level of game play you are after. Some people are quite competitive with a decent stock keyboard and a two-button mouse. A scroll mouse is a very cheap and now standard device and is much better for most games. A little better keyboard can go a long way to help. Every little bit can help, though. If you lose to a guy who has bought a fancier controller, you either shrug it off as okay or you go an invest in a fancier one yourself.
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Re:Another prediction of doom
Wait, what?
You really configure your mouse so the cursor on the screen travels through *less* distance than the mouse on your desk? In addition to very precise mousing, that must have the added benefit of keeping other people from trying to use your computer.
Ah, I see someone has a case of mouse pad envy...
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Re:So, what to buy next?Every card they've made past that point has been utter shit. Horrible support, atrocious Windows drivers, awful audio quality, and so on. Many hardware review sites have continually stated that fact. I dunno, I've seen good reviews for their cards. One, two, three, four. Those are just a few of the top hits off of Google. Maybe not super-stellar, but more than good enough if you're looking for an alternative to Creative Labs. While poor Windows drivers may be a concern, the original poster did say he was using Linux. Onboard audio is pretty horrible too; hope you like bus noise! See, now it's just obvious that you're either trolling or your an "audiophile" who has more money than sense. There are cheapo onboard systems out there, and there are also perfectly decent quality onboard audio chipsets that sound just fine.
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OverclockersClub.com
It's rather amusing that this article came out not to long after members of said site questioned the number of "Recommended" and "Editor's Choice" awards that they had been giving out.
http://forums.overclockersclub.com/index.php?showt opic=71064
You'd think that'd be enough to make people stop reading the articles/reviews. Or at least question things more often. -
Re:New mobos?
I am not overly impressed
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Windows problem
The latest software hasn't been pushing the limits of hardware like it used to, so Microsoft decided to do that with Vista by requiring a minimum 512 MB of RAM, among other things. Vista arbitrarily caching pieces of your hard drive to ram, only makes things faster if you have expensive hardware. In general, default background processes in Vista actually decrease the performance of your user processes by allocating system resources for background processes (especially on older hardware).
But this is nothing new. When I first saw XP it would boot really fast in 20-30 seconds, but after a few years of installing updates (which add and modify background processes and services) the boot process now takes a minute or two even with a fast processor. This is due to XP's long list of unnecessary background processes it has to initialize. Some sites have come out on how to optimize XP and they generally point to disabling unnecessary background processes, like this site does. -
Approx. cost
According to http://www.overclockersclub.com/, the Heliodisplay will cost you a hefty $22,500, as right now all of the avaliable models are just prototypes.
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Re:Other archives
Google beware? Too late! Google has already been sued (and lost the case, resp. they have agreed not to use AFPs contents any more).
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Re:Bittorrent givith bandwidth
Yes it has.
There was talk of a DOS attack on google and yahoo a few months ago.
Google did infact go down for a while, but most of it was:
u1: "you hear google's down?"
u2: "No? its still working here look..clickity..oh!"
u2: "Your right, clickity its not working, watch..clickity"
u1: "clickity its still not working here either"
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Re:Right handed reviewer bias
I did a lot of looking around for a gaming mouse as a leftie, and I can recommend the one I finally plumped for; the razer diamondback
It's a symetrical mouse, but it has two large buttons on top, plus the wheel button. There are also two double switches, one on each side in the thumb position. That gives 5 buttons easy to use, with another double switch which you can operate with your ring finger. I tend to set that one with both buttons the same action, as it is a little awkward, giving 6 buttons total.
It's got a very high dpi and response, laser 1600dpi, so I usually set the games down to minimum response, and the mouse up to 7 or 8 (10 scale), and adjust it down on the fly when I'm using a sniper rifle, or up higher if I'm using a slow move anti-tank gun.
It's not specifically designed for a leftie, but it's much nicer than your average neutral mouse. I especially like the large non-slip main buttons and long thin usb cord. -
Re:Good to have
Given how Opera is now integrated into Adobe Creative Suite 2, and now that Adobe bought Macromedia, Opera stands to work better on a lot of newly created webpages. Testing with Opera seems like a really good idea.
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Torvalds and Macs
Hey, if Linux Torvalds thinks that a mac is good enough for him, its definitely good enough for me.
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Re:rather see one of these attached
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Re:So In Other Words...Yeah, the consumers are busy switching away from MS right?
In this case, yes...
http://www.overclockersclub.com/?read=0970358
The Mozilla Firefox web browser has increased its total global usage to 8.5% according to Onestat.com, a leading web analytics company. While Microsoft's Internet Explorer still dominates the global market at 87%, it has lost 1.6% of it's users since November of last year.
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Stargate Atlantis & DMCA
MGM and BayTSP are handing out D.M.C.A. notices to people sharing episodes through BitTorrent. My service was terminated from this in December 2004. You can see an example of its letter here. Are foreign countries, like U.K. getting these copyright infringement letters too?
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Re:Canesta keyboard laser projection
already projects an image of a keyboard on any surface. This seems to be the same thing
Well, one is an image of a keyboard, the other acts as a monitor. Which makes the requirements and technical challenges quite different. Which is why the keyboard idea is alread a couple of years old. -
Re:AMD running at 50deg C.
I would suggest the Zalman CNSP7000A-ALCU as being a more resonable alternative to the Swiftech. Note I'm talking about the -ALCU version, not the -CU. The pure copper -CU is a bit TOO heavy and you risk damaging your core when you move your system. For a few degrees higher temperature it's worth getting the cheaper -ALCU.
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It's a DDOS attack -
"Akamai is confirming that network outages this morning were caused by a distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack that affected its DNS management system.
The performance problems affected Microsoft, Google, Yahoo and antivirus update services from Symantec and TrendMicro, which are among Akamai's 1,100 customers. Some of the largest affected sites were able to switch their DNS settings to their internal network, rather than akadns.net, which handles domain name service management for Akamai customers. The akadns.net system routs requests for high-volume customer web pages to content stored on its network of distributed servers, easing traffic to the client's main server and speeding delivery to the end user. Akamai performs similar function for downloads of audio and video files, software patches and antivirus definitions.
The outages mark the second disruption of Akamai's network in less than a month, following a similar incident May 24. "
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Netcraft
"Yahoo and Google have both been hit by a DoS attack. The attack has been hitting Google, Yahoo, and other sites that include Microsoft for the past couple of hours. The attacks started this morning and it was detected by Keynote Systems, a web tracking company that is able to track the load and bandwidth on the Internet. According to Keynote they saw an "Internet performance issue" this morning.
"The availability issues were limited to several large sites, all of whom outsource their domain name server (DNS) services to Akamai. These sites dropped to near-zero availability," a spokesman for Keynote said. They have tracked the attacker back to person that is at the Akamai Technologies ISP. No other information has been given to us at this time. We do not know if the FBI is working on this issue right now, but we expect them to do so. "
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Where exactly did this story come from?
Looks like it came from: here but yet it links to another site.. oh well
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In related news...
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List of Links to reviews / news
We've posted a list of links to reviews and news regarding the AMD64 939-pin processors. It's available here for anyone that wants to look at more information on the new CPUs. Currently 18 reviews, and the list is updated as they come in.
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Complete list of articles
A complete list of articles related to this can be found @ OverclockersClub.com.
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Re:Google's Logo! = GIF
Already did in the US. Last year. Linkage
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You didn't say how many units
but it's less than 24. Evev if it's only 12 units, that's still a lot for 1 DSL line. Get your own line and call it a day.
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google?
reviews found at:
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Re:OCZ has announced a recall.
Quite frankly, sir, you are ill-informed, since these thermal pastes do far more than your standard stuff you get from AMD or Intel (I'm not sure if Intel provides a thermal pad, I'm sure they do, but I've never bought an Intel processor), or buy on the internet that doesn't contain silver.
Here are some links for you to check out to see just how much of a difference these tubes make:
Mikhailtech review, EXHardware review/comparison of pastes, Overclockers Club review/comparison, ClubOC review/comparison.
There are many more reviews and comparisons. I chose to do a Google search for 'review "arctic silver 3"' and those were pretty much the first hits I got. In an overclocked system where stability and cooling is important, these pastes could make all the difference. In a standard system, these help prolong the life of the computer's parts.
Oh, and before I forget, the links I just posted more or less compare Arctic Silver stuff with either other Arctic Silver products, or competing products. If you want to see just how much of a difference these compounds can make from the regular thermal pads or thermal compound that uses silicone, Check this out. That's a whopping 10 degrees celsius difference the Arctic Silver has on full load compared to a standard thermal pad, and 5 degrees difference from standard thermal compound w/silicone.
I personally use AS3, and so does my father. With this paste I can safely overclock my Athlon 2000+ to an Athlon 2600+. Not that I do, mind you, because even though I can, I'd rather know that my system is well cooled, rather than adequately.
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Re:OverclockersClub Graphs
I think here it's just a case of plain poor thinking.
Right you are. :/
Bryan (aka d3bruts1d)
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Re:OverclockersClub Graphs
I blame the editor.
:) I had nice little tables, and he went and changed them to charts.
Actually, after reading this, you've got a point. I hadn't ever thought about it, because I don't do charts, and I guess the boss-guy just never thought about it as well. I've pointed your comment out to him, and you can expect to see better charts next time around.
Bryan (aka d3bruts1d)
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OverclockersClub Graphs
Does anyone else find it horribly bad journalism/science to report with a graph where one bar is a third as long as another bar, yet the large value is less than 1% larger than the other because they start the graph at a random number instead of zero, and then just using a graph break in the scale?
If you make a bar graph and the values are 1% different, the sizes of the bars should be 1% different. Why do they not understand this?
I've seen this at other websites, too. Does it irk anyone else?
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OverclockersClub Graphs
Does anyone else find it horribly bad journalism/science to report with a graph where one bar is a third as long as another bar, yet the large value is less than 1% larger than the other because they start the graph at a random number instead of zero, and then just using a graph break in the scale?
If you make a bar graph and the values are 1% different, the sizes of the bars should be 1% different. Why do they not understand this?
I've seen this at other websites, too. Does it irk anyone else?
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OverclockersClub Graphs
Does anyone else find it horribly bad journalism/science to report with a graph where one bar is a third as long as another bar, yet the large value is less than 1% larger than the other because they start the graph at a random number instead of zero, and then just using a graph break in the scale?
If you make a bar graph and the values are 1% different, the sizes of the bars should be 1% different. Why do they not understand this?
I've seen this at other websites, too. Does it irk anyone else?
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OverclockersClub Graphs
Does anyone else find it horribly bad journalism/science to report with a graph where one bar is a third as long as another bar, yet the large value is less than 1% larger than the other because they start the graph at a random number instead of zero, and then just using a graph break in the scale?
If you make a bar graph and the values are 1% different, the sizes of the bars should be 1% different. Why do they not understand this?
I've seen this at other websites, too. Does it irk anyone else?
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Re:Trends
"Heat's another factor; modern drives run damn hot - you really want a fair bit of airflow around them, either from your normal case intake fans and convection, or dedicated active cooling. Just because it runs fine doesn't mean you're not cutting it's lifetime in half, or worse."
My thoughts exactly. At 7200 or more RPM modern IDE drives get way too hot. SCSI drives have spun faster than that for a long time, but they're more often used in high-end servers where they're more likely to be properly cooled. It doesn't help that manufactures are trying to cram them into tight spaces with very little airflow. If you care for your drive at all, install active cooling on it and give it room to breathe! It's a lot cheaper than replacing your drive. I use one of these on each of my drives. They're pretty quiet and cheap.