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Options For a Laptop With a Broken Screen?

DefenseSupportParty writes "I recently traveled via an unnamed airline, and stupidly checked my laptop. Unfortunately, the screen broke in transit and they refuse to take responsibility for it, claiming that it could have been broken before the flight. I'm not really in the mood to replace the screen if I have to pay for it, as I have other laptops that I can use. At the same time, I don't want to waste computing power that could be put to good use. I've thought about the common stuff: file server, SETI@Home, but I'd like to do something a little more creative. Does anyone have good ideas for a relatively powerful laptop without a display?"

544 comments

  1. Braille Quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Braille Quake is available for Windows & Linux.

    1. Re:Braille Quake by Larryish · · Score: 5, Informative

      With an external monitor, a keyboard and a USB mouse, you have the makings of a very small footprint desktop machine. Close the lid and put it under the monitor.

    2. Re:Braille Quake by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My dad had an old laptop have the screen go out. It's now hooked to my TV to watch streaming Netflix / Hulu / etc.

      You could take the guts out and make some sort of robot brain out of it.

      Put it in an arcade cabinet and host MAME ROMs.

    3. Re:Braille Quake by CarlosM7 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Or, if his machine can't be turned on/off from the outside like mine (Dell Latitude C600), I would say loose the lid, get an external mouse and monitor, and use as a desktop.

    4. Re:Braille Quake by VagaStorm · · Score: 1

      Yes, a media center of sorts was my first thought to. A laptop is relativly silent and better looking than most desktops, which raises the faf(female acceptance factor) considerably.

    5. Re:Braille Quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that a little overpowered for a robot brain? I've heard that the 6502 does quite nicely for such purposes.

    6. Re:Braille Quake by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      You had me until you said "make some sort of robot brain out of it."

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    7. Re:Braille Quake by Follier · · Score: 1

      I did this exact same thing, plugged an old Dell lappy into my television as a DVD-player, Netflix client, ROM player. I just spent half the day yesterday playing Dark Wizard on a 42" LCD... looked like crap but I still love that music.

      Highly recommend wireless mouse & keyboard.

    8. Re:Braille Quake by Larryish · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The MAME cabinet idea rocks.

      Got something like that in the works for my daughter. We have a bunch of Windows-98-era driving games, a spare 900 mhz eMachine with Win98 CD and a V3 racing wheel. Marry that to 2 sheets of plywood cut in the shape of a car and a few sticks of 2x4 and you have the makings of an arcade-style racing cabinet.

      With no Internet connectivity, the fact that it is Win98 does not pose much of a security risk.

      As an added bonus, we can then convert her main desktop machine to Linux. Right now it is running XP because her Care Bears game won't run under WINE.

      Once the car cabinet is built we can move all Windows games to it and then every Internet-connected machine will be running Linux.

    9. Re:Braille Quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      closing the lid while the computer is running can cause overheating

    10. Re:Braille Quake by retchdog · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some laptops aren't designed to run with the lid closed. I burned out two (used) Thinkpad 600s this way (you can disable the auto-suspend but I later learned you really aren't supposed to :-/). It's probably different nowadays; the firmware will shut the machine down before damage occurs.

      Still, if you've given up hope on fixing the lcd anyway, think about just disconnecting/severing the display cabling and sawing off the lid. It'll make the machine even lighter and thinner, and more convenient to use as long as you don't stack anything on it (which is not a good idea anyway).

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    11. Re:Braille Quake by Myopic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, this is what I did. I had a 2002-vintage PowerBook, the model with those flimsy little hinges. I put that computer thru a lot of abuse, and eventually the hinges gave up the ghost.

      • I broke off the screen with brute force
      • Built the computer into a cabinet
      • Plugged it into a flatscreen TV
      • Got a BTC brand wireless media keyboard (built-in mouse)
      • Got an eyeTV
      • Got a RadioShark (don't use it much, but it's cool)
      • Installed Miro and Boxee, they both work great
      • Installed HandBrake and VLC for watching videos
      • Got inexpensive external hard drive for large storage
      • Used an old USB hub for plugging in other stuff

      After surrounding my broke-ass Mac with a bunch of new and nice components, the weak part of my media setup is the broke-ass Mac! I'm happy to have found a use for a computer which is otherwise useless, but if I were to do it again I'd get a free oldish x86 tower and use Mythbuntu or something.

    12. Re:Braille Quake by DanHess · · Score: 1

      Or if you're feeling truly adventurous you can take dismantle the old laptop, submerge it in mineral oil, and try to overclock the cr*p out of it http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=70943

    13. Re:Braille Quake by Brain+Damaged+Bogan · · Score: 1

      I turned a mates laptop with broken screen into a PC for my girlfriend. don't close the lid, rip it off. this way you don't need to bother plugging in a keyboard or mouse. if you have wireless then just run the antenna wires up the side of the monitor you will be using and sticky tape them on. the advantage here over a traditional PC is that you have a built in UPS :)

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    14. Re:Braille Quake by cadeon · · Score: 1

      Right now it is running XP because her Care Bears game won't run under WINE.

      Tied to Microsoft thanks to the Care Bears.

      I know how you feel.

    15. Re:Braille Quake by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      Some laptops aren't designed to run with the lid closed. I burned out two (used) Thinkpad 600s this way (you can disable the auto-suspend but I later learned you really aren't supposed to :-/).

      Not a prob for you. Either rip the whole screen off or drill a few times through it.

      Tablet computers have screens raised from the keyboard by little pegs.

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    16. Re:Braille Quake by retchdog · · Score: 1

      When I said I burned them out, I mean the motherboards failed from lack of venting. I was pretty stupid back then, and would 1) start a heavy number-crunching task on one and then 2) close it and put it out of the way on the corner of my desk. Also the thinkpad 600 wasn't a tablet.

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    17. Re:Braille Quake by tepples · · Score: 1

      My dad had an old laptop have the screen go out. It's now hooked to my TV to watch streaming Netflix / Hulu / etc.

      Is your TV an HDTV or an SDTV?

    18. Re:Braille Quake by bemymonkey · · Score: 1

      So you think that, because you fried two badly designed machines, some laptops aren't meant to be run with the lid closed?

      That's like saying cars aren't meant to be driven because you totalled your convertible when the wheels fell off...

    19. Re:Braille Quake by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      HD with VGA input......

    20. Re:Braille Quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually in this case, "loose" could work, as in he is setting the lid loose from the body of the laptop.

      Way to be an asshat, though; congrats ^^

    21. Re:Braille Quake by damien_kane · · Score: 1

      Which is why your parent said to rip off the screen or drill a few [vent] holes through it [the screen].

    22. Re:Braille Quake by tepples · · Score: 1

      HD with VGA input......

      What would you recommend for somebody with an SDTV? A VGA-to-composite scan converter, a new video card for the PC, or a new TV?

    23. Re:Braille Quake by retchdog · · Score: 1

      Um, yes. As you yourself said, "badly designed machines" are not meant to be run with the lid closed. Some laptops are badly designed. QED.

      This is what the frontally-lobed call a tautology.

      More seriously: many decent laptops were just not meant to run closed. This was more of a problem in the old days, but it was a problem even with iBooks, for one example. I don't think the iBook was a terrific design, but I think they were at least OK in general.

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    24. Re:Braille Quake by Meski · · Score: 1

      After working with some electronics that was designed to run in oil (high voltage laser stuff) I've got a hatred of the stuff. Replacing components that have been marinated in oil is a task I don't wish on anyone.

    25. Re:Braille Quake by plover · · Score: 1

      Depends on what you want and what your budget is like. The VGA-to-composite converters are kind of spendy (~$160+,) especially compared to a video card that has a composite output (~$30).

      But if you're looking to improve the quality of the picture in any meaningful way, a new, off-brand 24" TV with 1920x1080p resolution, an HDMI input, and an ATSC tuner can be had for ~$280 or less at Target or Newegg. It definitely beats fooling around with old gear, especially considering adding the external ATSC tuner which is not going to improve your picture quality (reconverting to RF will suck, not to mention dealing with yet another remote.)

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    26. Re:Braille Quake by tepples · · Score: 1

      The VGA-to-composite converters are kind of spendy (~$160+,)

      I saw one on SewellDirect.com for $50. Is that one any good?

      especially compared to a video card that has a composite output (~$30).

      The article is about laptop computers. Did you mean PCIe or ExpressCard? From ExpressCard.org: "we do not expect that a stand-alone ExpressCard graphics accerlerator [sic] will be developed in the near term.".

      a new, off-brand 24" TV with 1920x1080p resolution, an HDMI input, and an ATSC tuner can be had for ~$280 or less at Target or Newegg.

      Did you mean $280 per client, or $280 and carry it to each client's site? I already own a 32" Vizio; it's just a pain in the behind to arrange for transportation (can't use bus, can't use bike).

    27. Re:Braille Quake by plover · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I don't remember what brand converter I bought. I loaned it to my son to watch streaming videos on his TV. The quality was adequate, never great, but it's also hard to compare SDTV resolution with monitor resolution in any meaningful way. It's good enough for a TV show, but typical monitor text sizes are not readable.

      I didn't know you were looking to hook up to TV sets at multiple people's houses. I thought you were just looking to fix your personal SDTV situation at home. If you really need a traveling display solution (in-home sales videos, etc.) you're probably looking at a converter that incorporates an RF modulator as the lowest common denominator (which is about as bad as you can possibly make the picture look) because many older TVs won't have composite video jacks. Plus, I would imagine lots of people refusing you access to "mess around" with their TV connections, not to mention your liability if their TV doesn't work after you've reconnected it. (Moving around 30-year-old coax or twinlead is likely to destroy the insulation and give you problems.)

      That $30 price was for a PCIe card for a desktop. You'd have to google up solutions for your own laptop.

      If you really need large displays to show clients, you'd probably be better off bringing your own display solution. They make some very tiny portable projectors these days (cell phone sized.) Or you could consider a laptop with a 17" display. Very heavy and fairly expensive, but comfortably viewable by three people at a table (test the side angle viewability before purchasing!)

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    28. Re:Braille Quake by Strawser · · Score: 1

      You could take the guts out and make some sort of robot brain out of it.

      Better: http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/05/the-whiskey-pc/

      I've always wanted to do that, but I never have the parts. Maybe I should fly more . . .

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  2. Oblig. by Jamamala · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about you take a few more flights and then set up a beowulf cluster?

    1. Re:Oblig. by n0dna · · Score: 1, Funny

      I wish I had mod points, I literally laughed out loud.

      Well played. :)

    2. Re:Oblig. by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I wish I had mod points, I literally laughed out loud.

      I did too (and I do happen to have mod points, but it's already at 5 now).

    3. Re:Oblig. by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, but how will he be able to fly the airline again, considering it has no name?

    4. Re:Oblig. by suso · · Score: 0, Redundant

      You sir, might have just made one the funniest comment ever made on Slashdot.

    5. Re:Oblig. by zenetik · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Hahaha! That is one of the funniest things I've ever read on Slashdot!

    6. Re:Oblig. by DefenseSupportParty · · Score: 1

      That was the best thing I've ever read. Thanks for the pick me up.

    7. Re:Oblig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I don't get it.

    8. Re:Oblig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about you take a few more flights and then set up a beowulf cluster?

      Better yet, a beowulf cluster of Atomic Supermen.

    9. Re:Oblig. by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      I usually don't reply just to say something was funny, but OMFG! That was the best use of an abused /. joke.

      Can you be my facebook friend? Can I follow your twitter feed?

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    10. Re:Oblig. by nitroyogi · · Score: 1

      I recently traveled via an unnamed airline, and stupidly checked my laptop.

      Thats news man! An unnamed airline! Never seen or heard about one!

    11. Re:Oblig. by Chabo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can you be my facebook friend? Can I follow your twitter feed?

      You must be new here.

      The correct way to say it is: "Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter."

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    12. Re:Oblig. by Kwiik · · Score: 1

      planes don't need a name, I thought planes fly you?

      Sorry I'm coming back to North America shortly

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  3. How powerful exactly? by NervousNerd · · Score: 1

    As with almost anything computer related, it depends? How powerful is the laptop? Is it a last year model? Perhaps something a bit older?

    1. Re:How powerful exactly? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Who cares how fast it is? What kind of application requires real-time computing without a video output? The only thing I can think of is a server / router, which a 10 year old beige box could do.

    2. Re:How powerful exactly? by palegray.net · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't feel like waiting ten years for the results of my calculations, so your ten-year-old beige box won't really work for me.

    3. Re:How powerful exactly? by miknix · · Score: 1

      Who cares how fast it is? What kind of application requires real-time computing without a video output?

      Even Matlab could be ran without a screen. I do it all the time. I have a headless box at the university which I connect to using ssh. Matlab runs perfectly in a terminal.

    4. Re:How powerful exactly? by wellingj · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Robotics. Requires no video output, just input.

    5. Re:How powerful exactly? by cbreaker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "What kind of application requires real-time computing without a video output?"

      Last I checked, most notebooks have at least a VGA port and more commonly now a days is an HDMI port.

      So just hook it to any monitor and use it like a desktop. Problem solved.

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    6. Re:How powerful exactly? by iron-kurton · · Score: 1

      Why run Matlab when you can run Octave?

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    7. Re:How powerful exactly? by mitherin · · Score: 1

      Who cares how fast it is? What kind of application requires real-time computing without a video output? The only thing I can think of is a server / router, which a 10 year old beige box could do.

      Real-Time audio processing... it can be rather CPU intensive when you get up to 8 channels of audio running through many virtual processors... so much fun to play with. Doesnt need much graphical power though

    8. Re:How powerful exactly? by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      One of my first thougts was to set it up as an HTPC, actually. Relatively small form factor, you can hook up a TV tuner through USB, and it's got a built-in DVD player. Most laptops also have some form of TV out, either in the form of an S-Video or HDMI, or your TV might support VGA-in. Laptops are usually a fair amount quieter than desktops as well, making them a better choice for HTPC unless you're purpose-building a system for it.

      In that case, however, it's entirely reasonable to ask how powerful the laptop in question is, and what kind of accressories it has.

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    9. Re:How powerful exactly? by Ascoo · · Score: 1

      Why run Matlab when you can run Octave?

      Because Octave isn't 100% compatible (see http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/FAQ.html#MATLAB-compatibility), and regardless of whether it deserves it, Matlab is still the standard in a bunch of fields.

    10. Re:How powerful exactly? by mikerubin · · Score: 0

      number 5 ....alive
      need input

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    11. Re:How powerful exactly? by mongolian · · Score: 1

      Need iiiiiinput...
      Ahhhhhhh... Input...

    12. Re:How powerful exactly? by iamhassi · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why run Methlab when you can run Octomom?

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    13. Re:How powerful exactly? by colourmyeyes · · Score: 1

      OT, but I have a 16-year-old P1 doing firewall, dhcp, and tertiary DNS. The thing rocks.

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    14. Re:How powerful exactly? by diggitzz · · Score: 1

      What kind of application requires real-time computing without a video output?

      Shoutcast server (streaming audio) would rock, but streaming video would also be cool, web/net/file server...
      Node in a beowulf cluster, computing... anything! Game simulator, fractal renderings, the weather, physics simulations, neural network simulation, circuit simulation, gene sequencing, stock market analysis... some combination of those things...

      I'd like to remind anyone who's never been inside an actual compute center that usually only the head nodes, like 2-5 machines for every hundred or so compute nodes, have displays, and the sole purpose of the compute nodes is loads of real-time computing... else why do you think we'd (taxpayers) spend millions of dollars on these compute centers? Obviously, the need to compute (the application) came before the need to display (the video output). How strange that these needs have become so closely marketed as inseparable, that you, the slashdot commenter, can't think of a world where they aren't. ;)

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    15. Re:How powerful exactly? by diggitzz · · Score: 1

      I forgot to mention that using it as a sandbox to build/compile apps for other machines is always a good use of a fast extra!

      For that matter, you can use it to simulate the apps running on the other machines, and thereby optimize your compilations. If you script this, and run it in a neural network simulation that allows the script to modify itself, maybe it'll become conscious. Wouldn't that be exciting?!</naive jubilation>

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    16. Re:How powerful exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wonder what the power consumption is, and how much running that thing for a few years costs compared to a standard cheap router...

    17. Re:How powerful exactly? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Tertiary DNS? Why?!

    18. Re:How powerful exactly? by colourmyeyes · · Score: 1

      Primary and secondary are both on the same utility circuit, that unfortunately experiences frequent outages. So in function it is more like a secondary DNS, but strictly speaking is tertiary.

      Just wanted to get something on a completely different IP block and, most importantly, utility circuit.

      ...and also, why not?

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    19. Re:How powerful exactly? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      real-time computing... else why do you think we'd (taxpayers) spend millions of dollars on these compute centers

      Protein folding? Evolutionary algorithms? Anything you listed except audio/video streaming?

      maybe it'll become conscious

      How would experiencing human consciousness be good for a computer? Ooh, how terrifying, a lonely computer that's bad at chess and can multiply three-digit numbers if it closes its cameras and concentrates really hard. Also you have no idea what a neural network is.

  4. PQ by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Run 10,000 instances of progress quest.

    1. Re:PQ by Blazeheart · · Score: 1

      Finally! I found the perfect game for me! Thank you!

  5. Set-top-box by Swizec · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1) plug it into a television
    2) add IR
    3) add connection to file server with videos 4) ???
    5) entertainment

    1. Re:Set-top-box by Stile+65 · · Score: 1

      Good idea. Especially if the laptop already has IR - some of the nicer media laptops do.

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    2. Re:Set-top-box by hachi-control · · Score: 1

      You forgot mentioning GeeXbox as a media OS.

    3. Re:Set-top-box by BobPaul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most laptops already have IRDA built in. I'm not sure why exactly, but it seems almost ubiquitous. There are USB TV tuners that are supported by linux. These usually do MP4 encoding on device to keep the USB bandwidth down, so should be excellent for MythTV, even if the laptop isn't the most powerful.

    4. Re:Set-top-box by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Interesting, that's the exact opposite of my experience. The last laptop I saw with IRDA was one I bought in 1996.

      Care to mention any models that do include IR?

    5. Re:Set-top-box by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      4) <p>

      ...would by my guess for the missing link. d:

    6. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i did exactly that.
      I'd rather do it with a beagle board, but it gets the job done either way.

    7. Re:Set-top-box by kirbysuperstar · · Score: 1

      I'd suggest XBMC Live instead. Well, once they get TV going properly, anyhow.

    8. Re:Set-top-box by ElKry · · Score: 1

      All recent MacBooks, from what I saw last time I browsed their features to buy one for my wife.

    9. Re:Set-top-box by jcr · · Score: 2, Informative

      All recent MacBooks, from what I saw last time I browsed their features to buy one for my wife.

        Apple dropped the IrDA port from their laptops when they were still called PowerBooks. The IR sensor on the MacBooks isn't IrDA.

      -jcr

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    10. Re:Set-top-box by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 3, Informative

      They have an IR receiver, for use with a remote control, but not a two-way port.

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    11. Re:Set-top-box by drama · · Score: 1

      Was gonna suggest this as well. Depending on how feature packed and recent the laptop is, you likely have the makings for a sexy little media player.

      I have an AppleTV running Jaunty + XBMC... the AppleTV is a 1Ghz Pentium M class CPU, 256 meg ram, 40 gig 4200 RPM laptop drive... If I can run a well behaved media player on this that can handle up to 720p video... anyone can :-)

    12. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? 2001 is calling...Most laptops had IR then. but the sloooooooooow 120k throughput of an IR link was replaced with the *zippy* 455kbit throughput of Bluetooth.

    13. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IRDA port? Because it's a EXTREMELY cheap means of highspeed wireless communication. It would be stupid not to include one. And if you use your lappy as a media center at home, it's good for lazy nights as an IR port for your remote control. IR is ubiquitous, cheap, reliable, and highspeed. 'Nuff said.

    14. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agree with above idea. I recently put an HP 2510 with a shattered screen on my TV's VGA in line. Add a pinnacle TV tuner and you have a reasonably powerful DVR.

    15. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IRDA is mysteriously missing on newer laptops.

    16. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second the set top box. A laptop is perfect for that. Small, relatively quiet load up boxee or myth.

    17. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to the 90's. Good luck on getting that IRDA port to accept a universal remote.

    18. Re:Set-top-box by Khyber · · Score: 1

      HP Pavilion DV2000, DV6000, DV1000, DV9000 all have IR remote controls and IR ports.

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    19. Re:Set-top-box by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

      My T60p thinkpad does.

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    20. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost every Acer does, at least.

    21. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every Thinkpad ever made?

    22. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bluetooth killed IRDA

    23. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell Inspiron 600m, my last laptop. A few years after 1996.

    24. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My ThinkPad T43, now 3.5 years old, has IRDA. I've even used it with another ThinkPad to transfer data.

    25. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think a lot of the thinkpads still come with IR ports

    26. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every HP machine, for a start.

    27. Re:Set-top-box by lilo_booter · · Score: 1

      IRDA can't be used for this and is really not very common these days anyway. I recently bought an iguana USB IR transceiver from http://www.iguanaworks.net/ and that works great for both reception and transmission.

      I use it control my projector, hdmi switch box, digital receiver, dvd player and so on, as well as providing its own media playing capabilities through the switch/projector. Essentially, one remote control to replace the many.

    28. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean except every notebook in the Thinkpad series?

    29. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell XPS M1730

    30. Re:Set-top-box by tgrigsby · · Score: 1

      The HP laptop I picked up last weekend has one and came with a remote. Clearly they expect that it's likely that you'll use the laptop to control input from cable or TV tuner to a TV sized screen.

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    31. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HP Pavillion DV6647CL, Even has a remote bundled with it from HP...

    32. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ThinkPad T60 I bought in '07 had it and, as the GP, I always wondered why. As does the MBP I bought last month, granted it's fairly restricted to the Apple Remote as far as I can tell.

    33. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not mine (X60)

    34. Re:Set-top-box by kramulous · · Score: 1

      Oddly enough I spent about an hour today trying to set up a SW112-IRA with a logitech remote to my ubuntu/xbmc. Couldn't get the bloody thing going.

      TV, Proj, AMP, set-top box are all covered but I need to get the last step going.

      Anyhow, public holiday tomorrow. It just got booked solid.

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    35. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting, that's the exact opposite of my experience. The last laptop I saw with IRDA was one I bought in 1996.

      Care to mention any models that do include IR?

      hpdv2036 comes with a remote control

    36. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      acer 6292, see.

    37. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Dell C810, bought in 2003 had it.

    38. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mine doesn't have IRDA (tx1127, which is an about 3 years old model).

      It has an IR device though, but it is hardwired to just emulate keypresses, no IR devices are being exposed to the OS.

    39. Re:Set-top-box by Falconhell · · Score: 1

      Dell Precision m60 m70 latitude x300, d510 d600 definately do have IRDA, most seem to.

      Unfortunately a lot of them are on the rear of the laptop, facing the wrong way for home theatre setups.

      I have a HP NC8230 that has it on the front as a home theatre machine, doesn"t charge battery but works great otherwise.

      Very quiet operation of laptop is good for Home Theatre too.

      Many many others. These are 2005 models.

      New LCD are not as expensive as they once were, try shopping around a bit, starting with ebay.

    40. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Acer Aspire 5680

    41. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any DV series HP laptop for a start...

      (Most of which include a remote control too)...

    42. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IRDA is entirely incompatible with remote control IR. But the external USB tuners might have such an interface, or you can always build one http://www.lirc.org/receivers.html

    43. Re:Set-top-box by Erikderzweite · · Score: 2, Informative

      IRDA and remote controllers work differently. I wanted to use my laptop's IRDA for the remote controller only to find out that it is not possible. IRDA's that support remote controllers are rare IIRC.

    44. Re:Set-top-box by dloseke · · Score: 1

      Granted it's a few years old, the laptop I'm using now, a Dell Latitude D410 has IR. I think I've seen them more often on the Latitude series. That said, there's a ton of current laptop's I've seen with IR...certainly not restricted to machines 13 years old or older...in fact, what are those...486's?

    45. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      most ibm thinkpads.

    46. Re:Set-top-box by BobPaul · · Score: 1

      I didn't even own a laptop until 2004. I'd been using desktops and handhelds exclusively. So I don't know what 2001 would want with me. I don't own any laptops that old.

    47. Re:Set-top-box by BobPaul · · Score: 1

      Speaking of the 90s, I used to use the IRDA port on my Palm IIIxe as a universal remote. I have to say, I haven't tried on any of my laptops yet.

    48. Re:Set-top-box by BobPaul · · Score: 1

      Well what the hell did they have on the Palm III series devices? I used to use that to control my TV.

    49. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting, that's the exact opposite of my experience. The last laptop I saw with IRDA was one I bought in 1996.

      Care to mention any models that do include IR?

      The Dell Latitude D610 has an IR port (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd610/en/ug_en/specs.htm#wp1103840).

    50. Re:Set-top-box by ElKry · · Score: 1

      My bad. I read IRDA and somehow just thought of the IR.

    51. Re:Set-top-box by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Most laptops already have IRDA built in. I'm not sure why exactly...

      For syncing PDA data, of course. Recall that all Palm PDAs had IRDA, and I think most other PDA platforms used it too. Without bluetooth or USB, IRDA was the simplest way to sync. Cradles were a pain to set up, and PDA makers hadn't bothered to develop simple RS232 sync cables (though you could find them aftermarket if you looked).

      When I got my first cell phone, in 2000, I looked for one that had IRDA. None available for the U.S. market, though most European "mobiles" seeemed to have it. Interesting discrepancy — I've tended to blame the fact that American providers like to lock in their customers, though maybe it's just a result of the Europeans creating so many cell hardware standards. Anyway, I found it very frustrating that there was no way to sync my Palm PDA with my cell.

      I've since had cells that had IRDA (I suspect they were originally designed for the European market) but never used it, since by then I also had a laptop with bluetooth.

    52. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you Mac fags even know what IrDA is?

    53. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IBM ThinkPad T60 ?

    54. Re:Set-top-box by Deanalator · · Score: 2, Informative

      What's your point? Super duper grand parent is suggesting to use the IR for a remote control for mythtv. Seems to me that a receiver "for use with a remote control" would do the trick nicely.

    55. Re:Set-top-box by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      Point. I was focusing on the more recent IRDA references. :)

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    56. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a lot of laptops have remotes that plug into the usually vacant xpresscard slot.

    57. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how about any macbook or macbook pro?

    58. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IBM T40. I use the IR port to talk to my PDA.

    59. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compaq X1000 series. Mine has 1.4ghz Pentium M (Centrino... I think it is Banias) w/1GB RAM. Purchased in 2004. It comes with built in IRDA.

    60. Re:Set-top-box by LukeWebber · · Score: 1

      Add a USB HD tuner and you have a full-blown HTPC. Wh00t!

    61. Re:Set-top-box by tbhall77 · · Score: 1

      Typing this on a lenovo t60... IR is up in front of the keyboard right next to the WIFI on/off switch.

    62. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MacBook

    63. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell Inspiron 1525. Typing on one right now, and the remote controller is right by my side. Use it all the time when I plug the note in the tv via hdmi and just chill back to watch movies with the lid closed.

    64. Re:Set-top-box by asl_midget · · Score: 0

      Just from my own experience, current HP business laptops that my company has purchased (6910p is the one I'm looking at right now, I know we have more recent) have infrared built in.

    65. Re:Set-top-box by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IR existed because it's faster than actually using a janky RS-232 cable; it got murdered by USB, which is faster still and over which you can charge your phone. IR disappeared not because of any conspiracy, but because it was stupid.

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    66. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      each Thinkpad, Compaq, and HP laptop I've ever come across had one. Even really old models.

    67. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My work laptop, Dell Latitude D620, has IRDA

    68. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ThinkPad X41t for starters. purchased 10 years after yours...

    69. Re:Set-top-box by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Never said it was killed by a conspiracy. Said it was strange that in pre-USB, pre-Bluetooth days, it was more or less standard on European cell phones but not available at all on cells targeted at the U.S. market.

      And far from being dead, IRDA on cell phones is actually pretty easy to find, though obviously there's little or no application for it. Guess it's one of those legacy ports that's too much of a hassle to do without. Or maybe there's a European standard that requires it.

      Anyway, American cell providers do have a history of trying to prevent third-party interoperability. Recall that early Bluetooth cells had all their profiles except handsfree disabled.

    70. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a lot of thinkpads have them, my t60 does

    71. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting, that's the exact opposite of my experience. The last laptop I saw with IRDA was one I bought in 1996.

      Care to mention any models that do include IR?

      hp dv9000 does

    72. Re:Set-top-box by archerm · · Score: 1

      I use old laptops connected to my HD TVs instead of renting expensive Cable Compay DVRs for all the TVs in the house. I bought a $100 HAVA Platinum HD video streamer and connected it to my HD DVR cable box. I load the client software on old WIFI equipped laptops and hook them up to my other HD TVs. Add a wireless laptop and mouse (I like the LogiTech's doNovo mini although it's a bit expensive at abound $120) and you can lie in bed and watch the DVR or surf the web. My daughter loves it for YouTubing with her friends when they come over, and I love it because it sticks it to the cable company.

    73. Re:Set-top-box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Take broken laptop

      3) Profit...

  6. You can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Buy a cheap external monitor.

    1. Re:You can by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I used to use a hand-me-down HP laptop (that had a broken screen) as a desktop using an external monitor. It's just like having a desktop, really.

    2. Re:You can by fermion · · Score: 1
      This is what I generally do. I have one older laptop setup as a desktop machine. Plug in a monitor, keyboard mouse. Even can put a hard drive on it to work as an archive solution.

      OTOH, sometimes a replacement screen is not too expensive, and the instructions to repair almost any machine can be found online. If the machine cost more than $500, it might be worth the effort.

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    3. Re:You can by frieko · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Better than a desktop in many ways. Smaller, less power, built-in UPS.

      I have a beast of a Thinkpad. I lug it around occasionally but it's more or less my "desktop".

    4. Re:You can by lewko · · Score: 0, Redundant

      It's just like having a desktop, really.

      With a built-in UPS.

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    5. Re:You can by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Or sell it on ebay, someone will buy it.

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    6. Re:You can by nizo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Buy a cheap external monitor.

      Make it a small one and a few rolls of duct tape later you have your laptop back! At least as long as their is a plug nearby....

    7. Re:You can by sw155kn1f3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Can't agree more about built-in ups!
      I lived in rural area and the one really feasible option is just having a laptop, because power is so shitty. Well, you can buy real ups, but this is really bulky, not cheap and not well-integrated solution.

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    8. Re:You can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did the same with a Toshiba notebook. It's like having a slim desktop.

    9. Re:You can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's "there", fuckwit.

    10. Re:You can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it is. Perhaps he is a human being who occasionally makes grammar mistakes? Hopefully he is more tolerant of those who make mistakes than you are. Try posting as yourself next time instead of AC so the other pedantic trolls can go pick apart the grammatical errors in your posts.

    11. Re:You can by mi · · Score: 1

      It's just like having a desktop, really.

      With a built-in UPS.

      And a really slow hard-drive...

      And very difficult to extend...

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  7. Checked it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about setting it up a a monument to your carefree lifestyle? I mean, really, who on earth checks laptops?

    1. Re:Checked it? by carlzum · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Yeah, most airlines don't assume liability for electronic equipment, but that really irks me. Carry-on requirements are getting so restrictive I've started checking bags regularly (often paying for even one bag), something I thought I'd never do. With PSPs, iPods, etc. I don't need my laptop on the plane, and it takes up a significant amount of my shrinking carry-on space. And what if I need to bring a projector or camera lens? The airlines basically force you to check your bag, pay extra for it, and reserve the right to destroy the contents without compensation.

      Travel insurance has become a much greater value as airlines cut back. For 5%-10% of the cost of your trip you'll get protection for valuables, medical expenses, and cancellation/delay coverage. Shop around for a reputable company, but most travel experts strongly recommend insurance for any trip.

    2. Re:Checked it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C'mon' let's not pick on the poor guy: he's a flipping genius compared to a boss I once had who set his suitcase and laptop case down just outside the men's room at Kennedy while he just ran in to take a whiz. This numbnuts was astonished to find his luggage gone when he returned and he was even more astonished when he couldn't get the company to reimburse him for the loss!

    3. Re:Checked it? by wbean · · Score: 2, Informative

      I do. I don't want it on the plane and it weighs enough to be a nuisance. I pack it in the middle of the suitcase, protected by clothes and, so far, haven't had any trouble. Any data that I'd worry about is encrypted and the laptop is an old, slow, one that I use just for travel. Someday, I suppose it will be stolen or broken. Until then, I'm more than happy not to be lugging it around and putting it in a separate tray for security.

    4. Re:Checked it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always do.

    5. Re:Checked it? by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      Yeah, most airlines don't assume liability for electronic equipment, but that really irks me. Carry-on requirements are getting so restrictive I've started checking bags regularly (often paying for even one bag), something I thought I'd never do.

      Airlines don't assume liability for damaged electronics that were checked at all. I'm not aware of any airline that'll accept liability for your broken laptop, broken camera, etc. I'm also not aware of any airline that would count a laptop computer against your carry-on limit, either. Purses/handbags also don't count against your carry-on limit. And I do a fair amount of flying, too...

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    6. Re:Checked it? by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I do. I don't want it on the plane and it weighs enough to be a nuisance. I pack it in the middle of the suitcase, protected by clothes and, so far, haven't had any trouble. Any data that I'd worry about is encrypted and the laptop is an old, slow, one that I use just for travel. Someday, I suppose it will be stolen or broken. Until then, I'm more than happy not to be lugging it around and putting it in a separate tray for securit

      Taking a calculated risk and appropriate precautions is one thing. Checking your unprotected laptop bag is another. If you've ever sat on the side where they load luggage, you can see the sort of treatment your average bag gets. Not to mention, it's not well restrained in flight in the cargo hold, so it's probably bounding around pretty good.

      I don't like trucking my laptop through the airport, but I'm not checking the damn thing. Maybe if I had a crappy backup, sure.

    7. Re:Checked it? by carlzum · · Score: 1

      Purses, laptop bags, etc. usually count as your one "personal item." On Southwest for example, a laptop case and a bag of food, an extra coat, or a child's car seat would put you at your carry-on limit.

    8. Re:Checked it? by FrankieBaby1986 · · Score: 1

      I wonder if the shrinking carry-on size is related to the growing (girth) population?

      Eh, but i doubt they've changed the planes interiors much (how long does a plane stay in service?) Is it just post-911 bullshit?

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    9. Re:Checked it? by iocat · · Score: 1

      Southwest also dosn't charge anything for checking. They're also the online airline I've ever seen that actually has employees who use common sense -- that is, they aren't going to give two figs if you bring a McDonald's bag in addition to your rolling bag and laptop bag, even though it's technically 3 containers. Of course, the collary is they'll start checking stuf very quickly. SWA is all about turning around the planes as fast as possible -- that's their edge.

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    10. Re:Checked it? by arkhan_jg · · Score: 1

      I take it you haven't flown in Europe lately. A number of airlines are starting to enforce the 1 bag only carry-on rule - i.e. you get your laptop bag, or your normal bag, but not both. The cabin size limits are pretty tight, too.

      I have a swissgear rucksack I use for both my laptop and other crap I use to keep myself amused for the 6-8 hours I'm going to be travelling to the airport, waiting at the airport, sitting on the plane, and waiting at the other end. Yet there was one time I needed to carry something particularly large in my carry-on, and there was simply no way I could fit the lappie in too.

      So in the hold it went, in my suitcase, packed in solid foam. Fortunately, it made it. If I only had a normal laptop bag, it would probably travel in the hold a lot more often, as it's simply not big enough for the amount of extra stuff I take that doesn't go in the hold - the 15kg hold weight limit is starting to be a real pain in the arse.

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    11. Re:Checked it? by speedtux · · Score: 1

      It's fine if you put it into an OtterBox or Pelican case. Encrypting the disk also becomes important because of thefts from checked luggage (I had computer equipment, and nothing else, stolen out of my checked luggage on a KLM flight).

    12. Re:Checked it? by Falkkin · · Score: 1

      "... putting it in a separate tray for security."

      No need to do that. I just leave the laptop in my bag. Usually the screeners don't notice/care; if they do notice, smile and apologetically say "whoops, sorry, I forgot." They'll then take it out and run it through separately. I've done this probably 10-15 times in the last year or two, and they've only taken it out for a separate scan once.

      Exception: if some TSA guy before the x-ray belt asks me directly if I have a laptop, I take it out of my bag. There's no penalty for acting dumb for something you forgot to take out (or every high-school girl with a 6-oz bottle of shampoo would be doing time in federal prison), but I presume there's a significant penalty for lying to a TSA agent.

    13. Re:Checked it? by neumayr · · Score: 1

      Planes' interiors are made to be customizable, and are customized all the time.
      Many airlines do this to account for a changing market - more people on a plane, less comfort, cheaper tickets.
      Also, there are airlines that rely on second hand planes, which usually carter to a different audience than the airline they bought the planes from.

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    14. Re:Checked it? by bcrowell · · Score: 1

      My mother recently tried to collect on travel insurance when she had to cancel a vacation because her boyfriend had a health problem that came up at the last minute. Note that word "tried." It's been a horror story. Phone call after phone call, letter after letter. No money. Based on her experience, I would never buy travel insurance.

      Insurance is for catastrophic expenses that would totally mess up your life: you get cancer, your house burns down. For minor stuff like missing a vacation, I'd say just take the risk, and if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. Over the years, there is no possible way that the payout from the insurance company will be greater than what you put in; if it were, the insurance company wouldn't be profitable.

    15. Re:Checked it? by diggitzz · · Score: 1

      most travel experts strongly recommend insurance for any trip

      And most "insurance salesmen" are liars masquerading as "experts" =P Insurance is a great thing to have in any situation, but you don't need travel-specific insurance in order to be covered when traveling, like many supposed "experts" will recommend. Check your homeowner's or renter's insurance, and it probably covers any of your property, whenever it's with you, regardless of who breaks it or how or why. If it doesn't cover that, call up the company and increase your coverage until it does, even if you have to decrease the total dollar amount of coverage (your house is much less likely to burn down than your laptop is to be broken by someone). It'll be way cheaper than buying a whole extra insurance policy, for sure. If the company you use doesn't offer that kind of coverage -- SWITCH, because they're useless, and will never pay you because they can almost always claim your situation was excluded.

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  8. External display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does the VGA/DVI port still work? If so, why not just use it as a regular computer with an external display? That's what we did at my work.

    1. Re:External display by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who even needs a display? Run X over SSH.

    2. Re:External display by miknix · · Score: 1

      Who even needs a display? Run X over SSH.

      Why troll?

    3. Re:External display by tmetzcc325 · · Score: 1

      I was wondering the same thing...wish I had some mod points...

    4. Re:External display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, you gave the same answer I was going to give.

    5. Re:External display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who even needs X? Just run SSH.

    6. Re:External display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who needs SSH? Get out your multimeter (you do have one, don't you?), hook a bunch of wires to the serial port (or USB port) and tap two of them together for input.

    7. Re:External display by domatic · · Score: 1

      I ran some java AWT based installers over ssh on machines that only boot to consoles. It is very possible to serve graphical apps from machines that cannot themselves display them. The parent isn't as trollistic as you seem to think. The technique is actually useful.

       

    8. Re:External display by miknix · · Score: 1

      Parent *WAS* modded -1 Troll.

      I did use my score to make him visible and let moderators do their job.

      I also posted a similar reasoning to yours in
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1220227&cid=27802107

      I'm glad to see we all agree that headless boxes are useful :)

  9. Donate it? by Z80xxc! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you don't need the laptop, and the screen is relatively easy and inexpensive to replace, and the laptop has decent specs, why not fix the screen and sell it to someone who needs a laptop for just the cost of the screen replacement? You don't need it, they do, it's a (presumably) decent laptop. Everybody wins, and they might bake you a pie or something someday in return.

    1. Re:Donate it? by DocKenG · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, replacing the screen is not expensive at all. All you have to do is locate a LCD for your model laptop on a site like ebay. I have found LCD's for as little as $50. Then in a search for "lcd replacement on your model number laptop" and you should find exact instructions on how to remove and replace the LCD. I have done this many times and it is really easy.

    2. Re:Donate it? by mgblst · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you have an IBM Laptop, replacing the screen is really easy. You find full hardware documents online telling you exactly what you need to do, and there are plenty of screens on ebay. I have done this about 50 times now, no problems at all.

    3. Re:Donate it? by youthoftoday · · Score: 5, Funny

      Regular flier?

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    4. Re:Donate it? by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2, Informative

      pchub.com is also a good source for notebook parts.

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    5. Re:Donate it? by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I bought a new screen for my Canon S80 digicam on ebay for $50, but then when I put it in I couldn't get it to work. What then? Maybe the screen was defective, maybe the camera was more damaged than I thought, maybe I put it in wrong. So, like any DIY tasks, you are assuming some risk if it doesn't work out.

    6. Re:Donate it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You must be really, really clumsy.

    7. Re:Donate it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree this is a really good idea.

    8. Re:Donate it? by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or airline unclaimed baggage dept.

      I hear the selection is good.

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    9. Re:Donate it? by dynamo52 · · Score: 1

      I think he should just learn to stop checking his laptops.

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    10. Re:Donate it? by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Or his (l)users are...

    11. Re:Donate it? by couchslug · · Score: 3, Funny

      "You must be really, really clumsy."

      No, they aren't sealed and I spend lots of time on Usenet.
      Perhaps an upside-down sneeze guard is in order.

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    12. Re:Donate it? by jdcope · · Score: 1

      I have found replacement parts on Craigslist. A couple years ago I got a free Thinkpad T22 from a neighbor that had a bad lcd (his kid punched it). I found the same model on Craigslist with a bad motherboard for dirt cheap. I just swapped the whole lid, took about an hour. I also have a backup hard drive, dvd drive, and memory in case something else goes. Still works today. We use it for surfing, email, kids use it for watching movies, etc.

    13. Re:Donate it? by zip_000 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, a screen replacement for my laptop is prohibitively expensive. If I could get one for $50, I probably would, but I haven't seen one for less than about 2-3 times that much. (dell inspiron 5150) Worst computer purchase on my part ever I think.

    14. Re:Donate it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't get it sent air freight.

    15. Re:Donate it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      247laptoplcd.com has LCDs for most laptops for $69

  10. Server by sheetzam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Built in UPS, plenty of computing power as you say.
    Best use I can think of is as a server - web, mail, mysql, whathaveyou. Wear and tear on the hard drive not an issue if you're using something set up correctly - the hard drive will be spun down most of the time.

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    1. Re:Server by 9Nails · · Score: 1

      Precisely what a Dell Latitude C800 had become when it was sat on and cracked. A vertical row of keys had also failed in the accidental landing of the cheeks. The previous owner was going to toss it since the cost to replace the display and keyboard was more justified in a new notebook. I hooked a KVM up to it in case I can't SSH into the thing. But it's been the perfect little server. It's hard to beat the benefits of a UPS, low energy consumption and good powered device.

    2. Re:Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. I use one as a mail server for my home. Works great.

      Or plug it into a T.V. or a KVM and use it as a second desktop.

      I remotely control mine using logmein free.

    3. Re:Server by chuckbag · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is great advice! A laptop as a server is also great because it uses up very little power!!! Stick one or two 1TB external drives (now $89 each) on top of it, and use it as a NAS. (see http://rsnapshot.org/ for some ideas.)

    4. Re:Server by indi0144 · · Score: 1

      If you have access to your LAN why not use VNC?

    5. Re:Server by dynamo52 · · Score: 1

      RDC performs much better, is built in to the OS, and is very simple to set up.

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    6. Re:Server by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      Wear and tear will be an issue, if you are using it as a database server with any real write load regardless of how its configured. Although you really shouldn't be using a laptop if it is going to see heavy load. Not really sure why you'd need a ups on a server that isn't going to be heavily used. Its an odd problem to have.

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    7. Re:Server by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      Laptops never have ECC memory. There's no way I'd leave a server running 24x7 for months on end without ECC.

    8. Re:Server by magloca · · Score: 1

      A laptop generally isn't designed to be left running 24/7 and can supposedly catch fire if, say, the fan stops working and the CPU doesn't. Even if the fire doesn't spread, the toxic fumes from all that plastic can really ruin your day.

      Still, it can be done, of course. But you may not want to put it near where somebody sleeps.

    9. Re:Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is wrong on so many levels.

      laptops are not designed for 24/7 operation, often have just one ethernet interface, and moreover disk wear will be an issue if you plan to use it as a database / mail server.

    10. Re:Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the hard drive will be spun down most of the time.

      Does your server ever log anything ? Then the hard drive will be spinning 24/7 (especially if using ext3 mode=ordered)

    11. Re:Server by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I'd love to do something like this myself, but unfortunately it seems to be nearly impossible to run a mail server on a dynamic IP home internet connection.

      Many mail servers don't seem to accept mail from ISP's dynamic IP ranges, and even the ones that do often make the sender try four or five times as a way of slowing down spam botnets (Google do that, for example).

      With the new mass surveilence of UK net connection coming in I'd like to find a solution, but short of getting a shell account somewhere (and how could you trust them not to log?) I can't see any easy way to do it at home.

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    12. Re:Server by kent_eh · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I did with an old one IBM from work with a broken screen

      FreeNAS

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    13. Re:Server by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I would think that most laptops would have thermal protection of some sort, though granted, as hot as some of them get it could very well not kick in until the case has started to buckle from the heat.

      I did this for a while on an P4-M laptop. Since the screen was toast, I just removed it entirely to help keep it cool, thus earning it the nickname of "the halftop". It ran for several years like that, and was very stable. Every few months I would blow the dust out of the fans when I noticed that they were running a bit more than they usually did. Though if you go this route, don't completely disable the power save options like I did, as it ran the battery completely flat one day when the power went out when I was not around and the battery never would charge again. After a while, it started to get a bit flaky and since I didn't feel like dealing with it and was getting tired of hearing the cooling fan constantly kick in I just retired it.

    14. Re:Server by GlL · · Score: 1

      Buy an old radio that has enough room to fit the mother board and some cooling fans. Remove the guts to the radio, mount the MB and hard drive and use it as a streaming audio server.

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  11. Ebay by mikesd81 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    See if you can find a cheap screen replacement on Ebay.

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    1. Re:Ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That's exactly what I was thinking. For some reason people think replacing a laptop screen is difficult or something.

      All I have to say is modern laptops are usually pretty easy to work on. I would look up the specifics on your particular model before considering it but replacing the screen usually means popping off a cover, 4 screws, unplug the connector, then reverse for the new screen. It takes like 15 minutes at most.

    2. Re:Ebay by compro01 · · Score: 1

      For others, it can be an utter nightmare. Like an IBM I worked on. Getting at the connector required removing 27 screws, of 6 different sizes (though at least all were standard philips heads). Though having the entire shop manual readily downloadable from IBM was useful.

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    3. Re:Ebay by adaviel · · Score: 1

      Troll Ebay for the same laptop with a different part broken. Then spend 5 hours with a lens and tiny screwdrivers putting the good bits together. Or, drive around the suburbs for 30 min and grab a free VDT off the sidewalk and plug that in the back.

    4. Re:Ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can buy a new replacement screen for under $100 for most laptops these days. I had a similar issue for a month old HP laptop. Bought a replacement screen for 70$ off ebay and replaced it myself, works like a charm.

  12. Re:First post by mikesd81 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And yet, still a fail.

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  13. Media Center? by dagestad · · Score: 1

    Just brainstorming here... How about using it as a media center alternative? Remote over WLan (iPhone or remotes with wifi support) and off you go. Or more interesting, perhaps... use the wifi remotes along with some kind of home automation software. Then all you have to do is hook up your house and that computer could control all of your house :)

    1. Re:Media Center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or more interesting, perhaps... use the wifi remotes along with some kind of home automation software. Then all you have to do is hook up your house and that computer could control all of your house :)

      Where does one find this mythical 'house-plug'? Is it USB? Serial? Some kind of ATA?

      Tard.

    2. Re:Media Center? by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      There's actually several devices that support computer control, either via wireless or powerline ethernet, and a great many examples out there on the Internet of automated houses.

      A quick Google search also reveals several outfits like these folks who make a living at selling stuff for so-called smart houses. While I can't remember the link off the top of my head, there was even a story here on Slashdot a few years ago about a guy who'd hooked up his Christmas lights to a compupter, and put that computer on the Internet along with a live webcam of the lights; he set up an interface allowing people to turn his lights on/off and was inviting the world to try it out.

      Yes, I know I shouldn't really be replying to an AC, but when said AC is calling somebody a 'tard and is clearly ignorant of what the OP was talking about... >.

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    3. Re:Media Center? by BollocksToThis · · Score: 1

      but when said AC is calling somebody a 'tard

      Cease your vile slander! The poor soul was just signing his request for information.

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    4. Re:Media Center? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      My suggestion too. I have an old laptop plugged into a projector. For things like iPlayer it's great. I have a separate DVD player with better sound, but the laptop can also play DVDs (and, with VLC, lets me skip all of the irritating pre-menu bits, so I often use it instead of the DVD player for things like TV shows that only have 2 channels). Because it's plugged into the speakers, it can also play Internet radio and all of my ripped CDs. It's tempting to connect a decent NAS and rip all of my DVDs at some point too. The screen on my laptop works, but it doesn't really need to for this use.

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  14. aim for the airline rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You could throw it at the airline rep who basically told you to fuck off and sue them (in so many words it sounds). I suggest you aim for the head.

  15. MythTV by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hook it up in your network as a MythTV. I don't think you need an attached display to use it; if you do, use an old external monitor.

    1. Re:MythTV by crazybilly · · Score: 1
      My old laptop is on its way out now, too (like the OP, I've got a bad screen). I was thinking about replacing my home server with it--at 1.8GHZ, it's twice the computer the server is (thank you old hardware rescued from the dumpster).

      The biggest problem I see is this: one of the server's primary functions is to play DVDs on our (again, old, but decent sized) TV. I'm not going to buy another $20 DVD player when I've got DVD drives aplenty in working machines I own. But I don't know how to turn a laptop's VGA out into the composite or coax in that my VCR/TV wants.

      Is there a cheap adapter or something out there for this?

    2. Re:MythTV by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Informative

      In brief, yes, but you should check first to see of you have other options: does your laptop support anything besides VGA? I had an old Compaq (well, a few years old), and I kept forgetting the unobtrusive RCA jack in the back that represented "composite video". If you have that, it is basically the same as TV out. Connect it to the video in RCA jack on the back of your TV, and get a 2.5mm-to-RCA cable for your headphone out to TV in.

      A great many laptops have S-video out. That is better quality than composite, if your TV (or other video component) has S-video in. Again, your headphone out is your audio.

      My Mac has HDMI out, and if your laptop has anything like that, you also basically have TV out; you just need an adapter cable.

    3. Re:MythTV by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      And my TV has a VGA in.

      There are some converter boxes, but the quality is low. There are also PCMCIA video cards (however, not super cheap). And another option are the USB TV dongles (reasonably priced, adds a TV-tuner, too....but not all have output -- just input).

  16. FAH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good God, at least do something useful with it. Folding at home or rosetta at home. At least with those you can benefit humanity instead of sifting through a useless project.

  17. Treat it like a desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use an external monitor, park it at home, and use it for non-gaming apps.

  18. Sue them? by HomerJ · · Score: 1

    Why not take it to small claims court? They broke your laptop, they should fix it.

    1. Re:Sue them? by Cramer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Read the fine print. The airline is not responsible for the damage. Do. Not. Check. Laptops. Carry it with you at all times. Common luggage offers little if any protection for a laptop. Have you ever watched how the baggage handlers "handle" luggage?

      What? He doesn't have any form of insurance of his own? The cost of a screen is substantially cheaper than the cost of a new laptop. (unless it's an old and/or crappy laptop.)

    2. Re:Sue them? by Captain+Spam · · Score: 1

      If I'm not mistaken, I think most airlines have signs all over the place informing you NOT to put laptops in your checked luggage (in addition to leaving them out of any x-rayed carry-ons). They could fairly easily deny responsibility at that point.

      And if I'm wrong and they DON'T have such signs, it's a dead safe bet that after one person takes any airline to court over a busted laptop screen, air travelers would have yet another set of instructions assaulting them on signs as they check in to deny responsibility the NEXT time.

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    3. Re:Sue them? by x2A · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "The cost of a screen is substantially cheaper than the cost of a new laptop"

      Depends on the laptop model. I broke my laptop screen a couple years back. It's a 2003 dell model (D505) that's crucial for my work, but couldn't afford laptop replacement. New screen set me back around £50-60 (~US$80). I fit it myself (was rather simple to)... and now it's continuing to serve me well. But, that particular model did sell rather well, and many neighbouring models (such as D510 I believe) used the same screen, so it a very common, easy to find part. As for Unbranded Model(tm)... that might not be so cheap.

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    4. Re:Sue them? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The fine print is NOT the law. Them stating arbitrary things in some fine print does not make it somehow ok.

      What if they started to shred everything you check-in, and then pump the pulver in the plane. On check-out you would get a bag of that stuff with the same weight.
      Then the airline would state that it were a big accident.

      Do you really think that would bail them out?

      This is the same principle. They break it, they fix it. A fine print is only a rule, if all parties obey it.

      I know that here in Germany, there are many things you can state in the terms and conditions fine-print, but that have absolutely no meaning. You can even get sued for stating some especially evil things in there.

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    5. Re:Sue them? by wwahammy · · Score: 1

      But this is America, where you can say anything in a contract and get away with it :)

    6. Re:Sue them? by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Informative

      Read the fine print. The airline is not responsible for the damage.

      I agree about not checking in laptops. That was a stupid thing to do. However, do not ever assume that the airline is not liable. So do read those fine prints, but also do not rely on your memory. Here are the links to the "conditions of carriage" or "contract of carriage" for a number of airlines.

      http://www.independenttraveler.com/resources/article.cfm?AID=91&category=1&page=2

      And also know your rights, in the US you can try to recover up to $1,250 for lost/delayed/damaged luggage (unless you're on an international flight, which has its own limits governed by international treaties).

      http://www.kevincoffee.com/airlines/lost_baggage.htm

      Also if you travelled with British Airways, see if that class action lawsuit against British Airways is still going on. And on that topic of class action lawsuits, I agree that small claims court (depending on your State) is probably the most efficient way to recover your money after you've exhausted the airlines claims and claims appeals process, but it pays to use the word "class action lawsuit" in your legal threats. Most corporate lawyers know that threats of a class action lawsuit from a lay people are almost always empty threats, but no corporate lawyer wants to have a class action lawsuit come to him on his watch especially if it was so easily avoidable in the first place.

      What? He doesn't have any form of insurance of his own?

      Well he could also have purchased additional insurance for a premium, or insurance for excess valuation, at the ticket counter as well, but airlines are also notorious for trying not to pay out on those as well. And as to the other types of insurances, the ones with your credit card, travel insurance, etc, he should check out if he has any there as well, but hindsight being 20/20 -- I doubt he would be asking us this question if he did.

    7. Re:Sue them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely, positively untrue. Talk to any American lawyer who passed the Bar.

    8. Re:Sue them? by Tink2000 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't know a single lawyer who has ever managed to pass a bar.

    9. Re:Sue them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because it is company policy does not mean the law is not on his side...

    10. Re:Sue them? by Compholio · · Score: 1

      Well he could also have purchased additional insurance for a premium, or insurance for excess valuation, ... And as to the other types of insurances, the ones with your credit card, travel insurance, etc, ...

      It depends on the type of card he used, but he can probably challenge the charge and get the credit card company to force the airline to eat the cost of his flight until they've compensated him.

    11. Re:Sue them? by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      If I'm not mistaken, I think most airlines have signs all over the place informing you NOT to put laptops in your checked luggage (in addition to leaving them out of any x-rayed carry-ons). They could fairly easily deny responsibility at that point.

      You're not mistaken. I'm also not aware of any airline that would count your laptop against your carry-on limit, either.

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    12. Re:Sue them? by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      I fail to understand why a laptop would be not carried on-board.

    13. Re:Sue them? by Cramer · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes. Let's waste our time and money in court costs and lawyers fees to get $200 for a laptop screen out of the airline because you were too much of an idiot to either pack the laptop properly (assuming, as the airline states, it wasn't broken before hand) or carry it with you.

      And let's not forget, he doesn't want to spend any of his money on it as he "has other laptops" -- read: "I don't need this laptop."

      (disclaimer: He never said anything at all about what that laptop actually is. So the age, value, and repair costs are completely unknown.)

    14. Re:Sue them? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes. Let's waste our time and money in court costs and lawyers fees to get $200 for a laptop screen out of the airline because you were too much of an idiot to either pack the laptop properly (assuming, as the airline states, it wasn't broken before hand) or carry it with you.

      Without going as far as lawyers and courts, a few well aimed letters could do wonders.
      "It might have been broken before" basically means the airline can destroy whatever it likes and get away with it. "Yes, your luggage is covered in gasoline, and torn to shreds, but it might have been that way before". "Yes your children have large tyre tracks across their forehead but they could have been that way before".

      I don't see why people are supposed to accept just anything from clueless corporations. It's a matter of principle. They break it, they fix it.

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    15. Re:Sue them? by Cramer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Yes, your luggage is covered in gasoline, and torn to shreds, but it might have been that way before"

      If it was covered in gas (and shreded) at the time it was handed over to be CHECKED, it wouldn't have been accepted -- or are you too stupid to realize there are humans in the process. (and carrying a gas soaked anything into an airport in this country is a good way to not make your flight.) This isn't a matter of a gas covered anything, or children with tire tracks on them. It's a broken fucking laptop. It could have been broken by the airline. It could have been broken by him in transit. It could have been broken when he packed it. But yes, let's immediately assume the airline is at fault because of this guy's stupidity.

      Did the airline break it? Maybe (even probablly.) But there's a non-zero probability that he had a broken laptop in there to begin with. (yes, there ARE people who abuse the system.) His post here really makes me suspect that might be the case -- it's a "high performance" laptop that he doesn't need and doesn't care enough about to fix it out of his own pocket. There's no proof of who broke it, so taking the far more expensive route past a judge is an expensive gamble.

    16. Re:Sue them? by Katalyst23 · · Score: 1

      Depends on the laptop model.

      Ditto what you said. My roommate's old laptop was an Alienware - when the screen died, he looked into getting it fixed. The screen alone cost something like $200.

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    17. Re:Sue them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >The airline is not responsible for the damage
      http://www.airsafe.com/issues/baggage.htm

      You sure about that?

    18. Re:Sue them? by Trogre · · Score: 1

      ... but I thought that carry-on laptops were susceptible to invasive data-mining by the DHS, and instant confiscation if they don't like your desktop background?

      If I absolutely had to take a laptop on an aircraft I think I'd check it in, inside a padded metal case.

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    19. Re:Sue them? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      Well. Who would profit from no laptops on-board?

      Well, there is your answer. :)

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    20. Re:Sue them? by diggitzz · · Score: 1

      Only if people like you believe it to be so. The rest of us can sue.

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  19. Fix it yourself. by zymano · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Fix it yourself. by tbhall77 · · Score: 1

      Cost may play a roll. I have a Lenovo T60 with a busted screen. It would cost $1000 to buy just the screen. Granted, in my case I havent priced it anywhere else.

    2. Re:Fix it yourself. by ChinggisK · · Score: 4, Informative

      This. Do it yourself. Dell wanted to charge my girlfriend (ya ya ya peanut gallery) $350 to fix the screen for her laptop. I bought one online for $80 and fixed it myself with a set of screwdrivers and 20 minutes (and a little tiny bit of duct tape because they had a stupid little chip on the bottom whose screws didn't line up exactly right with the new screen). As for where to get the screen, I recommend Screen Country- they seemed to be the cheapest when I was looking, and so far the screen seems to work fine (2 months in now) - http://www.screencountry.com/?gclid=CNutnIL6npoCFQZeswodqHo49w

      They even have a warranty on them I think.

    3. Re:Fix it yourself. by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      What size and resolution is it?

      Better yet, look in this PDF for 4:3 models or this one for widescreens, for the part and FRU numbers. Google both. You may be able to even get an upgrade out of this, compare part numbers on the hinges, cables, and inverter.

    4. Re:Fix it yourself. by chris_eineke · · Score: 1

      Holy moly, if I had mod points I'd mod you up instead. That's a great resource. Thanks!

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    5. Re:Fix it yourself. by hey! · · Score: 1

      This is exactly what I would do. On the other hand, I'm insane.

      I'm not sure whether doing this sort of thing made me insane, or whether insanity makes me do this sort of thing. It's very much a chicken or egg question. I wouldn't recommend this course of action to somebody to whom it didn't immediately recommend itself. There's almost no way it's worth the time to do.

      Now some will say that no enterprise like this is wasted, on the grounds that the person trying will learn something. That's undeniable. The problem is this ignores opportunity cost. There are other things one can do with one's time that are more educational. In my opinion it is perfectly sane to convert the hulk into something novel, like a carputer or a home automation controller or the control unit for a robot, but anybody who puts that level of effort into to obtaining an old laptop is surely suffering from malignant compulsions.

        I'm allowed to say that, because fixing the stupid thing is just what I'd do.

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    6. Re:Fix it yourself. by ascendant · · Score: 1

      I don't recommend clicking on that link.
      It's rather broken and quite unhealthy for your browser.
      At least Firefox. NoScript will prevent it from maxing out a core, though. A remarkable number of errors...
      Posting anon because I modded the comment down.

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  20. Make it into a desktop by grege1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Buy a usb keyboard and mouse and a 19" external monitor. Set the power saving to just turn off the screen when you shut the lid, not go into standby. Instant energy efficient desktop computer. What you do with that is the same questin of what you do with any surplus computer.

    1. Re:Make it into a desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have been doing exactly this with my Dell 1705 for the last year or so and believe me, it works great. Wholeheartedly recommend this option.

    2. Re:Make it into a desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buy a usb keyboard and mouse and a 19" external monitor. Set the power saving to just turn off the screen when you shut the lid, not go into standby.Instant energy efficient desktop computer.

      Yup. My version of this is sitting under my TV, running SNES and N64 emulators. Knockoff USB Playstation controllers run you about $5 a pop. Super Bomberman, anyone?

    3. Re:Make it into a desktop by rantingkitten · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Laptops also make great little servers (for non corporate applications of course!), when you think about it -- low power, no extra cooling needed, and built-in UPS. I have a Dell 1.4ghz P4 laptop with a screen that was too flaky to use, so it just sits quietly on the corner of my desk with the lid closed, running Debian, and is my development/test webserver, mailserver, screened IRC session, nagios monitoring, file server, ftp drop for friends to send me stuff, ssh gateway to the rest of my home network, and a few other random little things as needed. Hardly creative, I admit, but it's always been useful. I only needed to plug in an external monitor once, for the initial installation.

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    4. Re:Make it into a desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty much. He basically asked the same question as:
        have two computers and one monitor, what do I do?
      Hmm, not sure...

    5. Re:Make it into a desktop by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 1

      unplug the cable going into the lid and then there is no power loss (i think the monitor accounts for almost 1/2 of a laptops power usage)

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    6. Re:Make it into a desktop by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Laptops make nice routers and firewalls too. Shove in a second LAN port and you have a router with built in wireless, admin via SSH/web/RS232. pfSense is ideal, or m0n0wall or iPCop or SmoothWall etc.

      The only area laptops fall down on is lack of good expansion options. For example, with NAS you could only really use 1 HDD (some laptops have two, and you can get PCMCIA SATA cards but they suck). Having said that, most laptops with SATA will run a full size 3.5" drive without problems, and the connectors are completely compatible.

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    7. Re:Make it into a desktop by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      As my MBP's display is slowly dying due to a broken display frame I'm considering the same thing - however I can't afford a second monitor. Back in the day when everyone used PS/2 and D-sub I could've just stuck a KVM switch between the MBP and my desktop computer but when I looked around a few weeks ago I couldn't find anything that works with USB and DVI.

      Did I just happen to overlook all modern KVM switches, do they have a different name nowadays or do I have to find some other way of sharing my peripherals?

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    8. Re:Make it into a desktop by grege1 · · Score: 1

      Synergy will allow you to share keyboard and mouse over an ethernet connection, but not a monitor.And it is free. http://sourceforge.net/projects/synergy2/

    9. Re:Make it into a desktop by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I'll look into it.

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  21. Use it as a media center by jonaskoelker · · Score: 4, Informative

    You may already be set up the way you like, but I'm not and others might also not be, so here goes:

    Use it as a media center. That is, connect it to your TV and sound system, and have it play video and music from wherever you got it (sshfs/NAS, w/e).

    For that, you want something which can start and stop (suspend/resume) quickly. You'll probably also want to connect a wiimote, so that bluetooth chip on your wifi NIC is going to come in handy. Saving yourself from running more cables (wifi) probably isn't going to hurt either.

    Why fix the screen when you can replace it with a bigger and better one? :)

    1. Re:Use it as a media center by tepples · · Score: 1

      Use it as a media center. That is, connect it to your TV

      How does one use a PC that has only VGA out with a CRT SDTV that has only composite in? I know about scan converters, but the electronics stores in my area don't carry them, and most people won't think to shop online.

    2. Re:Use it as a media center by MrKneebone · · Score: 1

      Check out a free opensource program called Media Portal - it's fantastic for setting up a home theatre PC and organising all your movies and tv shows. I rate it highly.

  22. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could always just export to a tv screen, create a free tivo by having the cable run into the laptop, just let it kill the battery

  23. weather station by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use mine as a weather station monitor for weatherunderground its mostly idle so you can still do other stuff.

  24. Hook up a display? by AlXtreme · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anyone have good ideas for a relatively powerful laptop without a display?

    Simply hook up a monitor and you have a energy-efficient and quiet desktop. For fun, strap the laptop to the back of the monitor.

    With older laptops you could fool around with those mini-LCD screens, use them for displaying the weather for instance. But as you mention it's a powerful laptop, so it would probably make a decent desktop.

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  25. Power reliable server... by nweaver · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Use self-powered USB drives, and have this be your server. Yes, its boring, but that way its a server with a built-in UPS!

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    1. Re:Power reliable server... by cmdr_tofu · · Score: 1

      How is this offtopic? Using self-powered USB drives is a great idea for a laptop battery protected server!

  26. Somebody Had to Ask It... by squidguy · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sorry this happened to you, but why the fsck did you check a laptop? You are lucky to have gotten it back at all, even with the broken screen.

    1. Re:Somebody Had to Ask It... by Rachel+Lucid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah... on the list of "Stupid Ways to Get Your Laptop Stolen", we have:

      #8: "Oh, it's okay, my friend's watching it"
      #7: Leave it in the car
      #6: Pass out at a frat house
      #5: Two words: Finals Week
      #4: Take a leak while "telecommuting" at Starbucks
      #3: Work for a government agency
      #2: Check your laptop with your airplane luggage
      #1: Put child porn on it. (for a legal alternative, your social security number will also do.)

      Seriously, to actually trust TSA to be doing their job 100% of the time and NOT screw with your valuables? You're nuts.

    2. Re:Somebody Had to Ask It... by maxume · · Score: 1

      It isn't just the TSA; the last time I flew, I was looking out the window and watched the baggage handler actually tossing suitcases up into the air so that the landed hard on a flat side.

      He could have been handling the bags more carefully and doing less work as a result, so it seemed pretty uncalled for.

      And really, if you are going to a Frat house, leave the toys at home (unless going for work).

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    3. Re:Somebody Had to Ask It... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got to chuckle.

      I thought of another good use:

      A stand for an EeePC. (I take mine with me when I fly, as it's small and simple to carry AND it doesn't have any moving parts. (well, the Linux one doesn't)

    4. Re:Somebody Had to Ask It... by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      He only got it back because it had a broken screen... If it was fully working it would have been stolen for sure.

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    5. Re:Somebody Had to Ask It... by dwpro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      True. I had an unopened bottle of Crown Royal in my bags for a trip to vegas, brought in anticipation of celebrating wins that did not happen. When I got home I opened my bag and the bottle was on top with about 1/5 gone.
       
      I can only hope it got the guy drunk enough to protect the possessions of someone else.

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  27. eBay by PhasmatisApparatus · · Score: 1

    The chances are good that someone out there has that same laptop with a bad motherboard and a good scree; check eBay.

  28. free mac-mini... by Grey+Haired+Luser · · Score: 1

    I muse my broken-screen ibook as a "mac mini" for the
    kids. Plug in a USB hub; keyboard/mouse and a screen.

    It works beautifully.

  29. HTPC by sustik · · Score: 1

    Use it as an HTPC in a streaming mythfrontend/mythbackend setup.

  30. eBay to get the parts by erroneus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite often, the parts you need are available on eBay especially if you use a Dell. (Availability of parts is the #1 reason I recommend Dell, not because they are "better." The #2 reason is because new Dell laptops almost always have accidental damage coverage available as a purchase option in the warranty... accidents happen, BUY IT! By the way, Apple computer does NOT sell accidental damage warranty coverage. If you buy an Apple, make sure you get it through a 3rd party vendor that does offer it or never buy Apple laptops...they are too expensive for accidents.)

    The position of the airlines is 100% correct. There should be a certain level of abuse that passengers should absolutely expect. If you don't expect it, then you are an idiot and need to learn the hard way. CARRY ON anything you believe to be valuable and/or breakable.

    1. Re:eBay to get the parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you happen to have the right model of Macbook, and some cash on hand, you could have it made into a slate tablet. Axiotron will only charge about $1300 for a slew of mods.

      Posting as Anonymous due to "Slashvertising."

  31. Its called a half-lap-top by 3seas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used one to teach myself AutoCAD on.

    Was a bench carpenter for 27 years and decided I was getting to old for the sawdust.
    A co-worker had given me a busted lap top and and so I got a monitor I'd leave at the shop with my toolbox but would take the half-lap-top home with me.
    I'd study Autocad during lunch...

    Now I work in the cad deparment programming CNC routers and doing construction drawings for some stuff some may thing is cool.

    Infinite Dimensions

    So there is certainly a place for half-lap-tops... especially with the low cost flat screen today.

    1. Re:Its called a half-lap-top by gaderael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are the mods bored or something?

      The man had a busted screen, got a monitor and taught himself AutoCAD. Pretty cool thing to do with a busted laptop.

      Not offtopic.

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    2. Re:Its called a half-lap-top by edittard · · Score: 1

      Offtpic used to mean "I don't agree with this post, but I'm too lazy, dumb or inarticulate to refute it". Since flamebait took over that role, it now scrapes a living as "I'm not interested in this".

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  32. DefenseSupportParty? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    DefenseSupportParty...checks in laptop on the plane....have you guys been using the Qantas lounge computers again?

  33. Do you have a VGA connector in the back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have a VGA connector (or whatever that newer type of connector is called) on the back of your laptop computer? If so then perhaps you could hook up an external monitor. Perhaps you had already thought of that and that is why you are asking what you should do with that computer. You could probably find a used 17-inch CRT monitor for under $50.

    I don't know what to suggest using the computer for, although there are various possibilities.

    1. Re:Do you have a VGA connector in the back by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Do you have a VGA connector (or whatever that newer type of connector is called)

      I don't know if it's funny or sad that most laptops still come with VGA, ten years after the introduction of DVI, and with most displays being digital.

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  34. transparent proxy cache for porn! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has the added advantage if the power goes out - you still have porn!

    1. Re:transparent proxy cache for porn! by Logic+Worshipper · · Score: 1

      Over dial up, with no monitor. Great!

  35. ...and what if the video card is fried, too? by DoctorNathaniel · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I've got a case like this: an Apple powerbook with a blown video chip. I can't afford to repair it, but it might be useful (as I can always boot it up with remote desktop software).

    So: no hooking it to a TV or a monitor, unless you can do that through USB or firewire.

    Suggestions?

  36. no screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Insurance?

    wifi captive gateway?

  37. Make a circuit board clock ;) by itzfritz · · Score: 1
  38. Name the airline. by Lendrick · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Seems like they deserve the bad publicity.

  39. Been there... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been in a similar situation before. Although it was my own fault xD.
    It's running as small web/backup mail server now.
    I've considered hooking it to a TV and making it a media centre, but then I realized I'd have to get a TV first so sod it.

  40. Carputer by f1vlad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about you setup this laptop in a trunk of your car and run some wires to the dash. Instead of radio deck, you could put touch screen and have a thing called "carputer". You can find more info here: mp3car.com.

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    1. Re:Carputer by mrphoton · · Score: 1

      Sorry to disappoint you but as Tom Tom found out earlier this year computers in cars are already patented:
      Vehicle computer system with open platform architecture http://www.google.com/patents?id=_wIGAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,175,789
      Vehicle computer system with wireless internet connectivity http://www.google.com/patents?id=crt7AAAAEBAJ&dq=6,202,008

    2. Re:Carputer by f1vlad · · Score: 1

      hm, interesting, I did not know about that. However, it doesn't stop me you or anyone from creating own carputer in the car. I used to have carputer in my previous car: http://f1vlad.com/wrxtear/carputer/index.html and some pics here: http://f1vlad.com/wrxtear/foto/index.html

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    3. Re:Carputer by j_sp_r · · Score: 1

      The idea is that you read those patents to DIY it. As long as you don't sell it you're fine.

    4. Re:Carputer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called an iPod.

  41. Use as a robotics framework! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could build an autonomous mobile robot with stereo computer vision embedded...

  42. Play area... by robateastridge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I did the same thing with a laptop several years ago. I ended up putting Ubuntu on it and used it as a server for a few websites (Plone/Zope, MRTG, NTP, DNS/DHCP) and some other things at home. Works well, is quiet and tucks away nicely.

    Alternately, I hear that vSphere will have better hardware compability/support, so you might be able to fit v4 on it and run several VMs of your choice.

  43. Had the same time by Onyma · · Score: 1

    I had a laptop here, fairly new unit with a dead screen. I ended up putting it in my media center and hooking it up to my LCD TV with a Logitech wireless keyboard. Makes a really nice little surfing machine / Video player / DVD burner / etc. while sitting on my couch and it takes up almost no room in my media cabinet.

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  44. Yeah, Screen replacement works wonders. by Rachel+Lucid · · Score: 1

    Most screens will run $100, and while laptops aren't made to be "easy" to repair, You'd be replacing the entire screen, which is just popping the case open and unscrewing a few things.

    I've replaced the backlight on my laptop's screen (a much harder task!), so this ought to be gravy for you, and cheaper than repairing it otherwise.

    1. Re:Yeah, Screen replacement works wonders. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      replacing the backlight isn't that difficult - at least for hp omnibook 510. i had to carefully open the plastic thingy around the old ccfl, cut the connectors, solder them to the new one and put it again into that plastic thingy.

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    2. Re:Yeah, Screen replacement works wonders. by Rachel+Lucid · · Score: 1

      Depends if your laptop uses a model that allows you to remove the backlight from the rest of the screen with relative ease versus having to dissect the screen down to the "I can see the different layers of the LCD" level.

      I had to go the dissection route. There's a few dust marks left behind from it, but they're not $100+ worth of annoyance to me.

    3. Re:Yeah, Screen replacement works wonders. by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      Your "isn't that difficult" was contradicted as soon as you used the term "solder". ;)

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    4. Re:Yeah, Screen replacement works wonders. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Aw come on, it's not SMD soldering. I also feared soldering anything before I had to do it at my current working place. An engineer colleague saw what I was doing, said that it was all wrong and took 10 minutes to teach me.
      It is actually pretty easy, as long as you've got a decent soldering iron.

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  45. get creative by spywhere · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Build a floor stand with an arm for a VESA-mount flat-panel monitor. (I've seen great articulating mounts for $50 at BJ's and Costco). Clamp the laptop to the stand near the bottom as part of the counterweights, and add a wireless keyboard & mouse combo.

    The result: a computer that sits next to a recliner.

    If you don't want it when you're done, take it to the nearest senior center or retirement home and plug it in there...

  46. Got firewire and HD cable? by Chris+Snook · · Score: 1

    In the US, HD cable providers are required by the FCC to give you a receiver with firewire output if you ask. You may have all the hardware you need for mythTV, without even buying a tuner card.

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  47. So you must be THIS GUY... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWqHPjB_32M

  48. Why unnamed? by shentino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you let the world know the name of the airline that ripped you off, could we not boycott them?

    I'm sure damaging a customer's gear and then refusing to pay for the damage will look REAL good for PR...

    So why not complain?

    Are you a sheep?

    1. Re:Why unnamed? by shentino · · Score: 2, Informative

      To whoever modded me flamebait:

      This sort of behavior is inexcusable for an airline and in my opinion it should not be tolerated.

    2. Re:Why unnamed? by Vadim+Makarov · · Score: 1

      Depends on how the laptop was packed. Look someday how they have to load the bags into the cargo compartment. Several bags sit atop each other. Some bags have hard edges sticking into other bags. In addition, when the bags are loaded and unloaded, they have to be handled roughly to speed up the process.

      To ship safely, all fragile things have to be packed with ample padding on all sides. If you don't pack like this, please accept a high risk of damage.

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    3. Re:Why unnamed? by drsquare · · Score: 1

      How do you know it was damaged by the airline rather than the airport?

  49. That's what you get... by Jawbreaker4Fs · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's what you get for traveling on an unnamed airline.

    1. Re:That's what you get... by falken0905 · · Score: 1

      It's not exactly unnamed. It's all white with no markings of any kind except the tail number. And it flies out to a 'special' little place in the Nevada desert every day carrying unnamed people to 'special' unnammed jobs. Ask Art Bell, he'll explain it all.

    2. Re:That's what you get... by pavera · · Score: 2, Funny

      its not all white, its got a red stripe too...

    3. Re:That's what you get... by ignavus · · Score: 1

      That's what you get for traveling on an unnamed airline.

      Well there must be a big market out there for an unnamed airline. Think of all the anonymous cowards on Slashdot that would use it.

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  50. The Grid! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Donate it to 'The Grid' for the good of science.

    http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/

    "World Community Grid's mission is to create the largest public computing grid benefiting humanity. Our work is built on the belief that technological innovation combined with visionary scientific research and large-scale volunteerism can change our world for the better. Our success depends on individuals - like you - collectively contributing their unused computer time to this not-for-profit endeavor."

  51. That's what you get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for flying an unnamed airline. I always choose brand-name travel at 30,000 feet.

  52. Tell you what by Legion303 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you don't have the imagination to figure this one out, send it to me and I'll do the thinking.

  53. OpenBSD CARP Cluster... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    OpenBSD CARP Cluster, with built-in UPS... Clustered Firewall, DHCPd, Samba, NFS, httpd, ftpd, sftpd/sshd, etc.

  54. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  55. Carputer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One made up word Carputer =0)

    That is a computer in your car... get a nice liliput display, a receiver with aux inputs, and a usb based gps. Beyond that theres a few os options to look at. If you have the iPhone like I do or a comparable product look at Adhoc setups to allow internet connection on the road.

    Good luck

  56. Upgrade! by LtBombb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Take advantage of the situation. Install a touchscreen.

  57. Unnamed, indeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why not name the airline, you anonymous coward ?

    1. Re:Unnamed, indeed by rob1980 · · Score: 1

      Because this is Slashdot, not Consumerist. The question was what to do with the broken laptop, not how to make the situation right between the OP and the airline.

  58. Answer a centuries old question . . . by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will it blend?

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    1. Re:Answer a centuries old question . . . by SYSS+Mouse · · Score: 1

      Will it blend?

      I don't think you can put a laptop into a blender, bro.

    2. Re:Answer a centuries old question . . . by hezekiah957 · · Score: 1

      "Will it go through a circular saw a few times, then blend?" doesn't have the same ring to it...

  59. Get a screen reader, or become a novelist ... by MacTO · · Score: 0

    Install a screen reader and get the experience of a blind person using a computer. If you're the type of person who writes software or designs websites, you may gain a few insights into your job.

    Or try writing something that requires a lot of focus. Some writers suggest turning off the screen to help maintain focus on the writing process (avoid premature editing, formatting, layout, etc.).

    Yeah, I know these are just "interesting" experiments. But at least you have a bit of motivation to try them.

  60. Blind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Give it to a blind person in need of a laptop - perhaps to a charity that works with the blind.

  61. Carputer... by Glove+d'OJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why not install a touchscreen 7" monitor in your dash, and have a carputer? Mount the reasonably powerful laptop w/broken screen in the trunk, wire it in to a power supply, attach a USB GPS antenna, and go from the audio out to the amp / speakers?

    All the MP3s you can store, instant access to the OBD-II information, "free" GPS, and (with Backtrack III or the like), war-driving capability. Have it get email from your wireless access point and read it to you on the way to work. Keep a copy of the local yellow pages on the drive, and look up the nearest Cuban restaurant.

    There are a lot of great "front ends" out there, and most all of them are skinnable to your heart's content.

    Hope that this helps / is something in which you might have interest.

    http://www.mp3car.com/

  62. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slow news day? How does shit like this make the front page? Who cares what you do with a broken laptop. You've already proven you're a moron - how much more ridicule do you actually want?

  63. how about a mythbox? by mark-t · · Score: 1

    [NT]

  64. There is no such thing as a broken screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you just have a display resolution of zero-by-zero. bwaahahahahaha.

  65. replace the screen by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    Buy a new screen. Laptop screens are pretty modular since the computer manufacturers don't make the screens themselves. If you are too unskilled to replace it yourself, you can always pay a repairperson.

    1. Re:replace the screen by Archon-X · · Score: 1

      They cost a fortune.
      My sony laptop screen just cracked when I opened it- 3 months out of warranty.

      Sony's response: It will cost us 160 pounds ( ~ $240USD) to pick it up, and only then can we quote you.
      After much badgering, they said screen repairs normally cost 600 pounds ( ~900USD ) on top of that.

      It's not exactly economical.

  66. Single Braincell Storm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmmm....

    Why don't you try to find someone who checked their CPU on the same unnamed airline but left there monitor at home?

    Either that or use it as a webserver and start a social networking site for people with orphaned components.

    I bet you could get Sally Struthers to act as a celebrity spokesperson; she's been far too quiet for way too long.

    B-)

  67. How about a CarPC? by cg88 · · Score: 1

    I've been asking myself the same question recently as I'm in the same boat. I'm using mine right now as a low-power file server, but the thought of a Car PC has crossed my mind many times. Especially with smaller touchscreen LCDs getting cheaper and cheaper, it's may be more viable than you think.

  68. Just replace it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you just buy a replacement screen. Unscrew the screws that hold the current one in and replace it. :|

  69. Weighty Issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That sucks about your laptop dude. The airport "should" have taken some responsibility. If that happened to me I would have flipped out on them, too.

    When you check luggage onto the plane, be it in the over carriage or undercarriage they are "responsible" to make sure nothing to weighty is on top of said luggage.

    Again I am sorry this happend to you.

  70. Unmanned Robotic Aircraft Are The Only Way To Go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With all that computing power it would be great for a UAV project.

    Sparkfun has all sorts of USB items for actually controlling servos without having to worry about shorting out a port.

    While you might want to remount a few things so you don't have a laptop base shaped craft, it would be an awesome project!

  71. RECYCLE by nso · · Score: 0

    Honestly, if you can't think of a suitable way to use it you probably don't need it. Nevermind Seti@home, experimental webrserver or whatever silly usage you might think of... do your bid to save the planet. Recycle it. Flame at will.

  72. Homemade Cruise Missile! by kawabago · · Score: 1

    Get the last word with your own homemade cruise missile!

    1. Re:Homemade Cruise Missile! by dex22 · · Score: 1

      Have you learned NOTHING from the lesson of H. Keith Henson?

  73. remote desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TightVNC. That's exactly what I am doing right now.

  74. Portable Projector by rogueleadzer0 · · Score: 1

    Build a box that will house the laptop, keyboard on the outside, a projector, either consumer or home-made, and speakers and you will have a portable drive-in movie theater, big screen gaming system, or, the least fun option, door-to-door powerpoint sales tool. Extra points if the box looks spectacular.

  75. Re:Oblig. ^2 by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    *Whoosh*

    For more information, read the last 10 years of Slashdot comments.

  76. Web server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use it as a web server, and host a site describing just how crappy the offending airline is.

  77. Flexview? by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    That sounds like you've got a T60p, not a regular run-of-the-mill T60.

    Before Lenovo messed with IBM designs, they had very good displays. Now the best you can get is two TN screens in their W700ds.

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  78. Connect an external monitor! by tomhudson · · Score: 1

    Most newer laptops have a connection for both an external monitor and an s-video out. For less than the cost of a new laptop display, you can get a much bigger desktop screen.

    1. Re:Connect an external monitor! by adnd74 · · Score: 1

      I agree. Laptop w/ broken screen == portable desktop (just add screen)

    2. Re:Connect an external monitor! by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Eve better is that it's more energy efficient, has its' own built-in UPS, is quiet, and you can plug in an external keyboard and mouse (either into the laptop or the monitor) and hide the laptop (or duct-tape it to the back of the lcd screen - sort of like a poor man's iMac.

  79. Broken Screen? by Aristophrenia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Remove the screen, install an ABS plastic cover for the keyboard (Using the hinges from the previously removed screen), and hook up a pair of MyVu glasses to it. Voila! Extra privacy as well.



    I'm not sure I spelled "Voila" right...Grammar Nazis?

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    1. Re:Broken Screen? by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      there you have it!

  80. OH WHY DONT YOU JUST ADD AN EXTERNAL MONITOR? by greentshirt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh what's that? This has already been suggested six hundred and seventy four times, basically at a frequency of every 5th post?

    Oh.

    Well I don't care I'm posting it anyways, what good is the internet if I can't chime in about something?

    1. Re:OH WHY DONT YOU JUST ADD AN EXTERNAL MONITOR? by greentshirt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      zomg people have already said use an external monitor, learn to read noob.

    2. Re:OH WHY DONT YOU JUST ADD AN EXTERNAL MONITOR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ME TOO!

    3. Re:OH WHY DONT YOU JUST ADD AN EXTERNAL MONITOR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy Crap! You use the internets too?

      I'm gonna try using an external monitor today!

  81. Dash-top-box by cgenman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Attach an LED readout screen, and create an MP3 server for your car.

    1. Re:Dash-top-box by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

      Or better, buy a old color PDA that has wifi from ebay. Install a VNC client on it and a VNC server on the laptop. Mount the PDA on the dash, and the laptop in the boot.

      You now have a color, touchscreen client hooked up wirelessly to an invisible server.

  82. Worlds most ridiculous door bell. by upuv · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rip the key board out mount the key board in some sort tin contraption. Now mount the keyboard and laptop in the tin contraption on the wall outside of the house/unit/apt/country lane.

    Then put up a sign.
    "Please enter the 64char apt code then hit enter. To gain entry or ring tenant".

    Now load the laptop up with every annoying you got the answer wrong game show sound. Just randomly play one of the files, when ever someone hits a key other than say "+". Where "+" actually rings you and lets you know someone is at the door. :)

    1. Re:Worlds most ridiculous door bell. by Voyager529 · · Score: 3, Funny

      The only people who will successfully ring the bell with the + sign will be the RIAA. They will discover that it is the + sign key by pressing every button on the apparatus and make a note of each sound used, suing him for $150,000 in damages per sound used.

  83. Re:Oblig. ^2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? I thought that was at least as funny as the original comment.....

  84. unnamed airlines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a rule, I never fly on unnamed airlines. It just seems like a bad idea.

  85. WorldCommunityGrid by gencha · · Score: 1

    Seti@Home is a pointless waste of energy. If you want to contribute to a project of that sort at least choose something like WorldCommunityGrid where the goal is something more beneficial.

    1. Re:WorldCommunityGrid by kd5zex · · Score: 1

      It all depends on your perspective. Who knows, perhaps the signal SETI captures and deciphers will have the cure to AIDS as well as every other disease known to man encoded in it.

  86. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I don't know a single lawyer who has ever managed to pass a bar.

    I've met a few clever ones who thought to pass it lengthwise.

  87. Suggested option by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Post on slashdot, but next time mention the name of the airline instead of "unnamed airline". And don't be self-deriding, as if you should expect checked luggage to be damaged.

    If you hire FedEx to ship a package, do you expect them take to be abusing it so that it gets broken? Sure there's a chance, but it's still their actions..

    Consider it a warning to /.ers against utilizing that airline.

    The airline PR people may be so embarrased that they buy you a new laptop.

    It's actually fairly cheap compared to placate in that one situation compared to the good will they stand to lose with a stupid policy of not accepting responsibility for damage they do to passenger luggage.

  88. all in one home server by wintermute000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Discarded laptops are perfect for all in one home server. Most real servers are overpowered for home use including silly electricity bill, heck most recent spec desktops are overpowered. Laptop esp. no screen = low power, quiet, small.

    I have a full LAMP stack running ampache (streaming mp3s from my home archive to any web browser), torrentflux-b4rt (headless torrents and usenet), DLNA media server (like itunes) and steam left4dead game server running 24/7 no issues on an IBM T41 (Pentium M 1.6, 512M RAM) so your recent spec laptop should blaze.

    Heck stick an external USB drive onto it and you also have a NAS solution. I have NAS so thats redundant (and incidentally the linux solution works well with the NAS, point everything at the mounted share, esp. if the NAS supports NFS though samba works fine for the above applications).

    I have colleagues who go down the windows home server route and they swear by it as well.

  89. Install BarracudaDrive and use the WebDAV server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can install BarracudaDrive and use the laptop as a WebDAV server for your home network i.e. a file server.
    http://barracudaserver.com/products/BarracudaDrive/

  90. Team Up and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    find all the other people who have had their laptops broken by the airline and DDOS their website?

  91. "Unnamed Airline" ? by brunes69 · · Score: 1

    Why do people post stores like this and for some reason purposefully leave out the airline? If it is a factual occurrence you are perfectly within your rights to tell us about it, and we would all be better informed by doing so.

    1. Re:"Unnamed Airline" ? by Passman · · Score: 1

      If it is a factual occurrence you are perfectly within your rights to tell us about it, and we would all be better informed by doing so.

      And therein lies the big if. Of course it may be completely truthful, but if that were the case why not state all the facts.

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  92. Post the airline name! by vix86 · · Score: 1

    Why was the airline not mentioned?

    If the airline wronged you, you should be spreading the word. If they won't accept the cost for poor service then word of mouth for their crap service should be the consequence.

    Don't defend bad businesses.

    1. Re:Post the airline name! by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      It's not the airlines fault some moron decided to have their laptop thrown in the hold. Of the aircraft defying all common sense.

      Only take breakable equipment as carry on. I always have and haven't had any problems as a result.

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  93. Router and more by sega01 · · Score: 1

    I have my screenless (screen was *working*, but the hinges were broken and it was a pain), keyboardless, laptop as a router, webserver, SMTP, POP3, DNS primary and slave. P3 650Mhz Coppermine running at 500Mhz with 128MB RAM is very adequate for most basic server usage, just don't throw too much PHP/SQL at it. Assuming the battery still works, you get a built in UPS. You'll need to find another NIC assuming it doesn't have two already if you want it to be your router. Good luck!

  94. good advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whenever you travel by air or train you should get your baggage insured, they put a sticker on it that tells everyone to treat it nice, but the best thing is that they don't see the difference between insured for $5 or for $5,000, so just pay the minimum

  95. 2 ideas... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    1. Hook it up to your TV, wireless keyboard/mouse, should make a decent Hulu box. Maybe a USB tuner could work with MythTV?

    2. Bend up a bracket, buy a monitor, bolt it to the back and you have a small footprint desktop.

    Of course, software includes just playing pictures as a phenomenally overpowered picture frame, but it could serve up your CDs, etc, and be a backup file server.

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  96. Re:Oblig. ^2 by lewko · · Score: 4, Funny

    Had you read the last 10 years of Slashdot comments, you would realise that the correct expression is: "You must be new here".

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  97. Some other options you might try by mikael · · Score: 1

    There are several options you can do:

    1. Purchase a brand new laptop screen from an online supplier - replacing this usually involves
          just removing the bezel and about a dozen screws holding the screen onto the lid chassis, and
          swapping connectors.

    2. If the screen has just lost illumination from a failed fluorescent tube, you might be able to
          repair it yourself. There are guides on how to replace the fluorescent tube.

    3. You could try sending your PC to a PC repair shop - but they will charge you $100 for
          inspection, component price as #1, and another few hundred $$$ for work time.

    4. Keep looking around for online retailers and E-bay, and see if anyone has a reconditioned
          screen - it might have a slight scratch or defect, but otherwise usable.

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  98. DIY by flyingfsck · · Score: 1
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  99. You could always use it as a nas by Hamoohead · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are many open source nas implementations available: FreeNAS OpenFiler and NASLite to name a few. I have personnaly set up 3 different NASLite boxes, and is the one I recommend for stability and simplicity (It is not free, but reasonable--around $35US). You will, however need to connect the laptop to a monitor for initial installation and setup.

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  100. Reuse it as light server in your datacenter by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

    Laptops make great lightweight backup machines with a stack of USB external drives on them, as print servers, or especially as modest capacity monitoring systems to report on and provide alerts for upstream switches, datacenter power, etc. With their built-in wireless and modem ports, they have another two ways to reach out and send alerts without buying new components. And they're certainly suitable as migration servers for what's been running on someone's server since 1993 and needs to be transferred to contemporary hardware, especially with virtualization capabilities to simply image and run the old OS in a virtual environment.

  101. cheap in Asia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i recently replaced my broken laptop screen (dell) in thailand... it was 75euro. All searches on internet gave me 200euro and up... and 75 euro was including the installation. Things go cheap in Asia.

  102. Hook a screen up to it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simple really.. get an old computer monitor (im sure you have one..) and hook it up to it.. then let the kids, family, friends, etc use it.. or if you have none of the above, hook the damn thing to the network and hire it out for $5 / hour or something ..

    Got something similar for a laptop with the same problem going here.. its a really poor HP lappy.. but it runs firefox and my friends use it to check thier mail, watch youtube etc etc.

  103. P2P server by The+Famous+Druid · · Score: 1

    Set it up as a P2P server, wirelessly networked to your internet connection, and put it somewhere unobvious eg garden shed, under the floor, etc.

    Then, when the Copyright Police raid your home looking for all that illicit stuff you're sharing, they'll confiscate your desktop PC, find nothing on it, and have to return it with a note of apology.

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    1. Re:P2P server by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Set it up as a P2P server, wirelessly networked to your internet connection, and put it somewhere unobvious eg garden shed, under the floor, etc. Then, when the Copyright Police raid your home looking for all that illicit stuff you're sharing, they'll confiscate your desktop PC, find nothing on it, and have to return it with a note of apology.

      You misspelled plant evidence and issue you a warrant.

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  104. yo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Boot it up
    2. ???
    3. profit

  105. Serves you right by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    Servers you right for flying on an unnamed airline. I've flown a lot and have flown on some really bad airlines, but at least they all had names. The fact that this airline was unnamed should have been your first clue to avoid it.

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  106. Fun Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blank the laptop, then paint it a nice nuclear magenta and yellow color complete with a very large and noticeable Radiation Symbol.

    Put that in your checked luggage the next time you have a lot of time to kill :D

  107. Airlines do not cover damage to check electronics by rhook · · Score: 1

    Just read what it says on the back of your ticket, in fact they tell you to not check things such as laptops because they do not insure them.

  108. Swap Displays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you have an older (but similar) model with a compatible screen? What I did in a similar situation is I swapped the screen with a system that was essentially the same model (only 3 years older).

    I still have a laptop with no screen, but I have the better system up and functioning.

    BTW Airlines will rarely take responsibility for careless/malicious baggage handlers. They count on the cost of a lawsuit being higher than the replacement cost of the item. My nephew had a similar incident with an expensive (but not excessively so) guitar. The baggage boys managed to damage it and the airline claimed that it was "inadequately packaged" even though it was in one of those rigid aluminum-sided mill-spec cases with a custom fitted foam interior. It looked like they dropped it off the plane and ran over it with a truck, and considering it looked like a gun case they probably did.

    1. Re:Swap Displays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God damned gun grabbing liberal bag handlers...

  109. checked the laptop your lucky it was it stolen by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    checked the laptop your lucky it was it stolen

  110. Three words by Moxon · · Score: 1

    Laptop throwing contest.

  111. dont waste it by luigi517 · · Score: 1

    Or just dont waste a perfectly good laptop when you could do any of those thing w/ a much less expensive and more configurable desktop, just spend 60 bucks on ebay for a new screen

  112. MAME machine by Trenchbroom · · Score: 1

    Laptop with a dead display would be great for a MAME machine. Get an old arcade cabinet (or build your own), hook a monitor to the VGA out, and throw the laptop in the back--clean and easy with no heat problems.

  113. Insurance a good value? by btempleton · · Score: 5, Informative

    It should be impossible, in theory, and usually in practice, for insurance to be a good value for anybody who flies with any frequency. Insurance companies make profits, after all. They probably pay out half of what they take in, if that.

    Insurance is only for risks where you can't handle the cost of the risk. For example, financially you could not handle replacing your house, so fire insurance makes sense. Life insurance can make sense to look after a family. Health insurance to cover a $300,000 operation can make sense, while dental or optical plans make little sense. Extended warranties (which are just insurance) make no sense and are very high margin because of that. Which is why they push them on you.

    For anything small, it is far better to self-insure. That's a mathematical certainty.

    Now there are two exceptions. One, if you know you are taking a risk that is far above average, and the insurance company hasn't figured out to charge you more or block you, insurance can be a value. Secondly, with medical insurance, you may find you don't want to have to consider cost when making medical decisions, you just want it covered. (Of course now an insurance company will be weighing cost as it decides if you are covered.)

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    1. Re:Insurance a good value? by Kvan · · Score: 1

      You're forgetting one scenario where it also makes sense, and which applies especially to travel insurance: insurance can be subsidized by e.g. credit card companies.

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    2. Re:Insurance a good value? by bezza · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most insurance companies pay out nearly all the premiums that they take in. They make money through their investment portfolios by taking advantage of the timing difference between premium payment and claim time.

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    3. Re:Insurance a good value? by jrumney · · Score: 1

      The bulk of the value in travel insurance is in the medical cover and repatriation in case of emergency. Luggage loss is mostly covered by the airlines on international flights anyway. If it's domestic flights you're talking about, then yeah, travel insurance is pointless.

    4. Re:Insurance a good value? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      That's true for "big" insurance items like auto, health, life, homeowners, and stuff like that (ignoring overhead costs, of course). "Little" things like vacation insurance, extended warranties, protection plans, and crap like that are hugely profitable though as they are practically free money for the companies that sell them.

    5. Re:Insurance a good value? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this were true, we would've seen the collapse of every insurance provider out there. Maybe we will. Virtually every investment has lost (except gov bonds).
      My guess is that they all got too aggressive with their "can't lose" investments though...

    6. Re:Insurance a good value? by btempleton · · Score: 1

      Right. Insurance is for that catastrophic thing you can't afford to handle yourself (or which you expose yourself to so rarely that you can't self insure.) So a medical repatriation might qualify, but a damaged bag does not.

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    7. Re:Insurance a good value? by Renraku · · Score: 1

      1. Little to no accountability.
      2. Little or corrupt supervision.
      3. No incentive to protect your goods.
      4. Low pay, shitty hours, and bad working environment.

      Its actually a miracle that electronics actually make it through the whole process of being in a checked bag. Insurance is a very good idea if you have to put anything expensive into your checked bag. Just make sure to document what you have and know how much it will cost to replace when it gets stolen or broken. The whole problem could be fixed pretty easily, but flights would get more expensive as a result.

      1. All bags are locked. If a bag needs to be searched, the bag is unlocked by a supervisor, a note is placed in the bag, then the bag is locked again. Then the search is logged. If too many things turn up missing by the same supervisor, its obvious who's in on it.

      2. Stop charging more for everything while laying people off and cutting the pay of the remaining workers. It absolutely kills morale.

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    8. Re:Insurance a good value? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forgot money from the government

    9. Re:Insurance a good value? by kfoster · · Score: 1

      Insurance companies do have another benefit for the insured however; they frequently negotiate with providers for lower costs, which you would be hard pressed to do as an individual. That makes the decision to self-insure no longer a clear win.

    10. Re:Insurance a good value? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most insurance companies pay out nearly all the premiums that they take in. They make money through their investment portfolios by taking advantage of the timing difference between premium payment and claim time.

      How's that strategy worked out since the market crash? Just peachy, I presume, since AIG is still breathing.

      Rewarding failure is the new American way!

  114. Check on eBay for broken one with good screen by btempleton · · Score: 1

    Replacing screens can be a pain, actually, and people overcharge for them.

    When I wrecked a screen on an older laptop, I saw somebody selling the exact same laptop (down to the sub-model) on eBay with no hard drive. I picked that up cheap, and took out my hard drive from the old laptop and slotted it in the new one -- bingo, easy fix full working laptop. plus I had the driveless, screenless laptop as well to do things with. These can be useful, for example you can put a flash card in them or an older drive, and make them drive a digital picture frame, or mythtv station etc.

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  115. Make a wireless router/filesharing machine. by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 1

    Since the laptop already has built in wireless, put it in your living room, ditch your router and plug this straight into your modem. The advantage is that you can run your torrents and ed2k with no interruption and minimal energy use, and also play all the video/audio on your network on your living room entertainment system. If the machine is powerful enough, it can easily do all these things.

    Or, give it to me, and I'll do this!

  116. Record talk radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a laptop with a flaky mousepad which is dedicated to recording talk radio shows for later listening. I use Replay AV to capture the shows from internet radio streams and I later transfer them to iTunes. I never open the screen, instead logging in via Remote Desktop from my main computer when I need to do something on the laptop.

  117. Fun Solution by thedbp · · Score: 1

    Install MythBuntu and hook it up to your TV.

  118. Use VNC to access it, install a network firewall. by Peet42 · · Score: 2, Informative
  119. Wasting "computer power" vs wasting electricity. by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
    If you don't have something really useful to do with it, I think you should either leave it broken, or fix it and give away to someone who can make good use of it.

    Consider: if you fix the laptop, plug it into the power and use it for something marginally useful (running Seti@home, using it as TV box, a server, etc) it will sit there consuming power 24x7, doing nothing useful ... most of the time. That is like fitting a 100W light bulb in a broom cupboard and leaving it on all the time.

    You are paying for the wasted electricity ... maybe double if you have an air conditioner ... and filling the atmosphere with CO2 for your children / grand-children to deal with.

  120. Dimitri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hook it up to your television/projector in your main room at home. Seriously, seriously, worth it. Never need cable again.

    Also invest in a wireless keyboard/mouse. A lot harder to lose than a remote control.

    I have a broken laptop screen hooked up to my 46 inch tv at home. I use it as my media server, and can game on it. (Great excuse to play old goldsrc games. If your laptop is worth it's salt it should at least run Half Life with no hangups.) Download a few emulators/roms, and get a wirelesss controller. Boom. Profit. I boot up ZSNES at least once a day now.

  121. Media server with Coherence by caller9 · · Score: 1

    Stick on an external drive if needed. With Handbrake you can trascode those movie backups and stream them via Coherence to a UDMA/UPnP device (XBOX 360, PS3) etc. You have to do a custom setup with Handbrake to get the AC3 audio, basically select XBox360 as the target to get the defaults, change audio to AC3 direct stream copy or whatever, use AVI container, use Xvid(or FFMPEG not tested though) and viola.

    Still requires some tweaking, I still get some weird artifacts with Xvid.

    Use the easy_install Coherence method because the package in Ubuntu Intrepid sucked hard.

    Also need 100Mbps ethernet to your XBOX360 to get acceptable AC3 audio. Not sure why but it streams at 30Mbps, your wiFi will probably fail at this. I troubleshot codecs forever until I read a post about bandwidth, copper made it awesome. Tip: if it works ok from a USB memory stick but sucks over wifi, you need a bigger pipe.

  122. Obvious for a reason by mcrbids · · Score: 1

    Cars are obviously built for transporting people, is in 'uncreative' if you have a car and decide to drive it to work?

    Similarly, laptops with broken screens that are otherwise stable are useful as either desktop replacements or as lightweight servers. They are compatible with both of these uses, and in the latter case, are actually quite well suited, if sufficient for your needs.

    I'm using a 25 dollar used Pentium IV to serve around 5 million hits a month for a website I host, Apache/Linux, etc with good uptime and a load average around 0.01 most of the time. Pretty much just a vanilla install of CentOS with patches installed, etc.

    It's amazing what you can do with junk and a decent O/S nowadays!

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    1. Re:Obvious for a reason by value_added · · Score: 1

      I'm using a 25 dollar used Pentium IV ...

      If by that you mean you're referring to a 25 dollar Pentium IV notebook, I'd love to know where you buy your used equipment. Seriously. Me, I'd be impressed if I can get a single used part for that amount of money.

    2. Re:Obvious for a reason by F34nor · · Score: 1

      What Intel giveth Microsoft taketh away.

  123. Let's Get This Straight by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Obviously you can convert it into a desktop by plugging in an external monitor...

    ...but...

    ...Let's get this straight. The airline contends that you bought a ticket on them in order to check a broken laptop through normal baggage handling (you wouldn't be taking it to use on your trip if you knew it was broken ahead of time) just so that you could get your laptop repaired for the cost of a plane ticket and your time. And you're letting them get away with this garbage? You must be new to life overall.

    Here's the rub. TSA opens and checks most bags. They check for bombs that might look like...oh...say...laptop computers. So they make you show that your computer actually operates like a computer.

    They open your bag and your laptop either operates perfectly, or they don't let it on the plane and probably question, if not arrest, you. Really good chance that your laptop operated just fine when they inspected it. So what happened?

    Option 1: TSA broke it while "inspecting" it. Real good chance there since they had it out and were handling it. But because they broke it themselves they put it back in and shipped it along so as not to have it be their problem.

    Option 2: It was broken after the TSA inspection and before you picked it up again.

    Option 3: There is no option three. It was broken during the baggage handling, the airline didn't tell you not to put laptops in your luggage because they get broken all the time, and now they don't want to pay for it.

    You've already shown yourself to be stupid twice now. Once when you checked your laptop, and the second time when you let the airline bluff you out of what you're due for their damage of your equipment. Do you really want to go for three?

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    1. Re:Let's Get This Straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, the bag, with the laptop in it, was already checked in at the CHECK-IN COUNTER, and would not have been inspected by TSA screenders.

  124. Get really geeky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grab a pair of those USB 3d glasses and have a Shadowrun-esk laptop? It would be the ultimate in privacy whilst using the laptop during a flight

  125. Learn To Fix Laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could just tear apart the entire laptop, and not only replace the screen, but also learn how you would go about fixing other things, like replacing the keyboard, etc..

  126. think insided the box... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hook up a display to the vid extension port, turn it into a desktop...

  127. Maximum Effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Build a rockin robot around it.

  128. Accesibility by chord.wav · · Score: 1

    Use it to test applications for blind people

  129. Mesh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Start a dedicated open mesh network in your neighborhood.

  130. Fax server by jivv · · Score: 1

    In my experience, laptop computers still have phone line sockets, whereas recent desktops don't. You could use the laptop as a fax server, among other things...

  131. OSGrid Sim server? by rajid · · Score: 1

    Sim server for osgrid? Just install Ubuntu and access it via ssh.

  132. Go to school..... by rts008 · · Score: 0, Troll

    1.Go back to school, take an English class to learn the concept of 'paragraphs'.
    2.RTFM!!,,,n00b!!!
    3. headless server.
    4. You have got to be kidding to post this to 'Ask Slashdot'!!...Really. (yes, you missed #3...??? and #4...Profit!)

    Stay With Windows!! until you are 'experienced'.**

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  133. small claims court by pyster · · Score: 0

    If they wont do the right thing take them to small claims court. It will be cheaper for them to settle than to invest in a lawayer.

  134. RE: by ChurchTheDead · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I had an HP DV6707US that I'd had for around year when I dropped it and shattered the LCD. HP wanted $400 for the screen, so I got a 22" Dell Ultrasharp and made it into a desktop for my office. My considerations for when I use it for something else are currently: Carputer Media controller box for my home theatre Server You could do pretty much anything you want with it really, aside from the mobile computing work it was designed for. Hook it to an external display for initial setup, then remote into it when you need to alter anything.

  135. Most obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sell it it's still worth something even with the broken screen

  136. Lawsuit by MrMista_B · · Score: 1

    Lawsuit. They broke your property, and lied about breaking it.

    And you think that's okay?

    It's not, and they know it, and they know you won't likely do anything - which is why they get away with it.

    They owe you a new laptop.

  137. I'm worried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, I think there is a danger that a whole generation of people will eventually be unable to make a decision without Slashdot.
    "Should I scratch my ass or not, and if so what is the best method" will likely be the next question.

    Sheesh

  138. It's a sign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it's time for you to have a life now...

  139. Media Center by neurosine · · Score: 1

    As long as it's not a noisy desktop replacement, you can hook it up to your HDTV, throw on XBMC and have a nice quiet little media server client. That's what I did. Works well. Much more quiet than the XBOX 360, and considerably more versatile.

  140. Amahi by MoreDruid · · Score: 1

    if you want to repurpose it as a headless server I can heartily recommend Amahi server.
    It's basically a file/dns/dhcp/vpn/calendar server and you can easily extend it with some other apps (torrents/newsgroup/wiki/recipes).

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  141. Am I The only Practical one here? by j-stroy · · Score: 1

    Hammer

    Doorstop

    2" lift monitor stand

  142. take guts out and make some sort of Robot Brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just this morning I parted out an old machine, and gave 2 dimms and a couple of heatsinks to my kids.
    It immediately became "alien tech" in their Ben 10 reenactment game.

  143. Get them to pay for it! by Nabeel_co · · Score: 1

    Man, take it to the head office! Make them look like crap! Bitch and moan until they take responsibility for their actions.

    It's plain and simple, If you break something of someone's, you pay to get it replaced or repaired. That is not negotiable.
    It's not honorable to do otherwise.

    [rant]
    Why does everyone have this attitude that everything is not their responsibility nowadays? "Oh I hit your kid with my car, but he wouldn't have died if the car companies designed the car right." (Did you ever notice how car hoods are becoming more rounded in the last few years? That's why.) "Oh I spilled hot coffee on myself, and you didn't warn me that my hot coffee was hot, pay for my medical bills"

    What the crap, seriously? It's like we're going backwards as a society...
    [/rant]

    1. Re:Get them to pay for it! by mjwx · · Score: 1

      It's plain and simple, If you break something of someone's, you pay to get it replaced or repaired. That is not negotiable. It's not honorable to do otherwise.

      The problem with honour in the US is that U seem to be missing from it.

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  144. Repaired a Dell XPS laptop screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Dell XPS M1330 and the fragile white LED-backlit screen was buckled while transiting through LA airport security check from the UK and then onto a new flight (I carried the laptop as hand luggage and it was OK prior to going through the checks).

    I did have travel insurance and managed to claim the cost of screen repair from minus some excess. I was compelled to repair the screen myself as I was given ridiculously high quotes from repair shops (I did pay for a diagnosis at my flight destination as I didn't have a multimeter or such to narrow down the cause).

    I was fortunate to source the exact Dell LCD screen part from Ebay cheaply and swotted up on information from laptop DIY blogs and actual Dell service manual. All I needed were Stanley Phillips screwdrivers, a print out of the manual and an ice-cube tray to track the order of removed screws. It was fairly straight forward even for a compact laptop like the Dell XPS 1330 - I imagine it would be easier for larger models.

    To conclude I would attempt the repair!

  145. Re:Oblig. ^2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't get it either. Are you on drugs ?

  146. carputer by clintonmonk · · Score: 1

    carputer. just hook up a 7" touch screen, gps, etc. and have fun cruising down the highway.

  147. Remove the Built In Monitor Too by wintermute1974 · · Score: 1

    Not only can you buy a cheap external monitor, but depending on how the built-in monitor is connected, then you can also remove that too.

    If you do this, you are left with a very small form factor computer with integrated keyboard. This is something like a modern-day Commodore 64.

    I speak from experience. Circa 2001 my Compaq Armada 1700's monitor broke at work. The "temporary" solution was to hook me up to an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Since I preferred the internal touchpad and keyboard, a helpful coworker found a screwdriver and together we removed the monitor.

    At first, I doubted that it would boot without the integrated monitor, but it did. The same could be true for you.

  148. if it's an OEM.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    use your warranty, or use a friend's warranty to get a new screen. just tell them you dont need a technician, and yes that you know your warranty will be voided if you fuck up.

  149. Re:Oblig. ^3 by Redlazer · · Score: 1
    A lot of people don't know that one.

    Sorry, you must be new here.

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  150. Polyfurcate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Polyfurcate it and use the pieces for wall decoration.

  151. My cheap Dell Studio 1535 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My cheap Dell Studio 1535 has iR. I wasn't really interested until ordering a Haupauge 950Q HDTV ClearQAM tuner.

    I figure the last 5 years laptops are hotel entertainment systems for some.

  152. Remove the cover by aspoon · · Score: 1
    My last laptop had the screen fried (literally... sparks and more sparks before display was gone)

    If you don't mind opening it up a little, remove the whole cover -- screen et al. Hook up an external monitor and you have a Commodore-64-looking PC. (OK, not quite the same looks, but you get the drift)

  153. Techrestore.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was in a similar situation when the screen cracked on my Macbook. I went to the Apple store, where I had had good experience with a previous logic board repair. The price was astronomical. I watched a number of YouTube videos about how to do the repair myself using parts from eBay. I am pretty comfortable doing this stuff, but it looked a little risky and time consuming on the Mac (some PC models may be easier, but I've seen a technician repair an IBM Thinkpad screen, and it was not easy.

    I finally found Techrestore, and although this sounds like some sort of ad, they were awesome, and the price was a fraction of what Apple was going to charge. I got the Mac back via Fedex in a very short time (like a day or two). They have different options for shipping convenience in conjunction with Fedex stores (they will box it, or you can box it, etc).

    The customer service was amazing, and these guys deserve the publicity. They do Macs, PCs, iPods, etc.

            - John

  154. Turn it into a desktop by Dancindan84 · · Score: 1

    I know you said you didn't want to replace the screen, but this isn't exactly in that line of thought...

    Cheap monitor, keyboard and mouse = great kids machine.

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  155. Thank them in person. by bazorg · · Score: 1
    1) Attach brick to damaged laptop.

    3) Profit!

  156. Pong by david+in+brasil · · Score: 1

    It's more fun anyway when you can't see the playing field.

  157. Alternatively ... medicines help .. by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    Get Valium .. it does wonders .. calms you down a bit too ;)

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  158. External LCD? by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Rather obvious, I would think. Has to be stationary for this though.

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  159. Search the airline by using the asterix ? by freaker_TuC · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm flying with *, and you?

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  160. Welcome to our new ... by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    .. Do we have to welcome such slow robot brain? They are too slow to become our overlords anyways!

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  161. MOnitor Replacement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Seriously? You can't replace the monitor? They're like $80 on ebay.

  162. Server of whatever bane you choose! by indrora · · Score: 1

    I've had a few headless laptops. I pull out the screen from the case and run it headless for a while, even sometimes if that means buying a TV-Tuner card and running from TVs. Honestly, Its somewhat useful. Another option is a Razor-Thin server. Load X, CDE/Twm and a VNC Server that asks for login from X (Or just accept remote X logins), or tunnel X over SSH and use Hamachi to do out-of-network-tunneling. Simple, no?

  163. Two Words by Travoltus · · Score: 1

    Paris Hilton.

    Remember what she did to airline passengers' luggage? That's normal. Rly.

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  164. Pick a server, any server... by st2000 · · Score: 1

    NFS Server. Samba Server. SqueezeCenter Music Server. SwissCenter Media Server. Wizd Media Server UPNP Server. BTW, run a VNC server on it and pop up the screen on another computer running the VNC client should you have the need during configuration or when running your server apps.

  165. IR ports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi. I am not familiar with most newer laptops. The IR port on older laptops was there as a means to transfer data to other computers (mainly laptops, but there were a few desktops that had IR ports built in, and external IR port devices were available that connected to a serial port). This was handy to transfer things without a cable, but as these IR ports were serial devices, it was not practical to transfer large amounts of data unless you had large amounts of time. As there are better and faster ways to transfer data today, I can believe that IR ports might not be included in modern laptops.

    Years ago a friend and I had set up our (ancient now) laptops so that we could play Doom2, and 3D Descent via a null modem cable (that was a special serial cable fo you younger folks out there). Later on we were able to use special software to play via the IR ports. Range was limited, but it worked pretty well.

    TTYL

  166. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to connect my laptop(keyboard broken) to my tv and dlp projector.

  167. NAS? PVR? by Uzik2 · · Score: 1

    Either would be nice. I love the pvr I built using mythtv. I had the best luck on my older hardware with the mythdora distro.

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  168. External monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Get an external monitor
    2. Plug it in
    3. ???
    4. Profit !!!

  169. Car Computer by DustoneGT · · Score: 1

    Laptops are pretty easy to stow in trunks and other small spaces. Small touchscreens are available to mount within reach.

  170. Re:Wasting "computer power" vs wasting electricity by raodin · · Score: 1

    Lets be honest here, a screenless laptop is likely pulling a lot less than 100W even at full load, and a TV box or home server is a lot more useful than a light bulb you can't see.

  171. Did this before! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have two notebooks with broken screens. I took one and built it into my desk at home. I then added an external screen and now I have a desk with a built-in computer! Spoecially mounted all the ports (audio, video, USB, network...) for easy access under my screen! Vertical mounted the DVD-RW drive.

    The other notebook I used for (as a few previous users mentioned) an entertainment system linked up to my TV and home theater system.

  172. Well... You could Get a LP70+ InFocus and... by zurkeyon · · Score: 1

    And turn it into the multimedia center for your home if its got the power... A linux or higher end windows load... pack it with ram... get the biggest drive you can either internal or external and LOAD IT UP... Emulators, Games, Big Screen Apps, DJ Software, Karaoke Software, DVD Movies(Whole Dumps, menu'd out), Music(1000's of hours), and ANYTHING that looks good on a big screen... and LP70+ made by InFocus can be found online for as little as 300$-400$ and a screen is EASY to MAKE... Get x10 8 foot long 1" x 1" and make a frame for the screen... putting 45's / in at the corners and bracing in to keep it straight and firm... Get 2 packages of thumb tacks(White) and a few people... 3 heavy count cotton bed sheets, one black 2 white... Wash and dry the sheets and lay them out as flat as you can... Stretch them over the frame (Black first, whites on top) as TIGHT as you humanly can, thumb tacking it all the way... Then get x4 small 2" L brackets... Bend the top to about mid way to hold the screen in place at the top. The bottom 2 get a SLIGHT bend upwards, you then insert the top of the screen into the brackets you just made, and set the bottom of the screen brackets on the wall so that the screen fits snugly and does not come out of the top brackets... Hang a black curtain about 2' wide across the top, and black drapes down the sides to hide the screen edges... and BAM!!! A Theater Multimedia Setup in your house for under 500$ !!! Enjoy!

  173. Get a replacement LCD from eBay or Kajiji by nohear_t · · Score: 1, Informative

    My sister dropped her laptop in the winter and cracked the LCD quite nicely. I found a "broken" laptop on eBay (similar model) for about $50. Once I received it, I simple disconnected the LCD assembly from the dead unit and connected it to hers. Problem solved!

  174. Re:Oblig. ^2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Says the person who responded to someone with 'noidentity'

  175. House. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1.Hook every single appliance and switch in your house to it.
    2.import soul
    3.give it control of the house locks and add attributes anger/revenge
    4.Kill it when it tries to murder you for cheating on it.
    5.Reprogram it to not have control over locks/anger
    6.???
    7.2 tons of dog food
    8.???
    9.Steal two cars, buy a garden hose, and get 32 florescent light bulbs
    10???
    11.???
    12. World domination
    13.???
    14. PROFIT!!!

  176. Happens to the best of us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had a fairly powerful emachine laptop a couple years back, i destroyed the screen by dropping my slide onto the screen while cleaning. It works well as an ubuntu desktop, using an external monitor and vga out, i even went through the trouble of removing the screen leaving me with a fairly thin keyboard, system unit combo.

  177. Kiosk... by lordsid · · Score: 1

    This came up at work because the display inverter went out in my macbook pro. We considered turning it into a touch screen kiosk before we got it fixed.

    We would have used this for distributing information to employees, but it could be useful in the home as well, like a calendar for the family or grocery list tracking or what have you. Could even build in an Asterisk box if you wanted.

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  178. NO. Sue them. by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nobody's given the correct answer:

    - Small Claims Court.

    "It was probably broke before you checked it," is not a valid excuse for an airline to refuse baggage insurance (or any other company for that matter). It is THEIR responsibility to check the luggage/item and verify it is not broken prior to accepting it under their liability insurance, and since they failed to do that, the legal presumption is that the laptop was 100% okay when received and damaged during transit. In fact in many cases the mere threat of court action is enough to make the airline cough up the cash.

    This is somewhat similar to how the law presumes a mail-order package is 100% the seller's responsibility, even if said package was lost by the post office, or stolen by the neighborhood teenager. It's the seller's fault and requirement to issue a refund. The law is designed to protect the *customer* not the airline or seller.

    One other option:

    - Call your credit card company. Many of them provide protection, such that if an airline damages your luggage, you can get a refund of all your ticket money and/or replacement of the damaged good.

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  179. laptop converts to desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Depending on the laptop, the lid and hinge assembly can be easily removed, the LCD to motherboard connector is a simple cable connector, also removed. With an external monitor and video cable you now have a whole desktop machine that will sit on your desk's keyboard tray. You have just made the ATX case obsolete.

  180. External monitor limitations on laptop VGA by billstewart · · Score: 1

    You can always use X Windows for video output (unless you're a gamer), and almost all laptops have VGA or DVI connectors that will let you drive a monitor that's at least as good as the screen in the laptop.

    I've occasionally run into limitations with external monitors that have much better resolution than my laptop, because at least with VGA they don't seem to be able to do the right thing about resolution. For instance, my 1680x1050 monitor decides to stretch 1280x1024 wider instead of displaying it in native resolution with black space - not only does it make images and video look wrong, but what it does to fonts is really appalling. (That laptop has a 1024x768 screen and supports external displays up to 1280x1024; the other laptop that does 1440x900 mode also gets stretched, but at least it's not as ugly.) The monitor documentation looks like it would probably be able to make better choices if I were using DVI, but the laptop doesn't support it.

    On a desktop, you can fix this problem by adding a newer graphics card (so if I buy a cheap high-res display for my older desktop, I need to buy a medium-priced graphics card to get better than the 1280x1024 motherboard graphics or else buy a new motherboard), but that option's typically not there for laptops.

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  181. Not the T41 either, which killed PalmPilot support by billstewart · · Score: 1

    A few years ago we updated laptops at work, and my T41 not only doesn't have IR, it also doesn't have a serial port. I wasn't using my old serial-port-based Palm VII much by then, and it didn't seem worth buying a USB-to-serial adapter for it. (I could still use the Palm on my home desktop, but the point was to sync it with my work laptop, and the older software didn't seem to work right on XP. Eventually I got a Nokia phone with Bluetooth, which doesn't seem to work reliably either...)

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  182. Not the T41, though newer ones seem to have it by billstewart · · Score: 1

    No serial port, no IRDA, just USB and parallel.

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  183. VLC Remote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, if you have an iphone or an ipod touch, I highly recommend using the vlc remote ($0.99 from the App Store). It connects via wifi to your computer running vlc. You don't need a 10 foot interface because the playlist and controls are shown on the touch surface. It's like a remote control from the future.

  184. Lots of uses by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    We have a broken screen iBook G4. The screen still works, just large black splotches cover about 20% of the viewing area. My daughter uses it to watch videos and play some kids software, we use it for playing iTunes and for listening to streaming radio. Still works as a machine.

  185. Re:NO. Sue them. by nbauman · · Score: 3, Funny

    "It was probably broke before you checked it," is not a valid excuse for an airline to refuse baggage insurance (or any other company for that matter).

    A man sues his neighbor because, he says, he loaned the neighbor a pot, and the neighbor returned the pot with a hole in it.

    The neighbor says:

    First, I never borrowed the pot.

    Second, it had a hole in it when I got it.

    Third, I returned it in perfect condition.

  186. Wireless hijacker... by pengipengi · · Score: 1

    Does it have working wireless?

    Then it's possible to create a system that scans for every open wireless network and try to connect to it's router, and hope it's a simple off-the-shelf router, and activate the security. That would be a lession for all users with open networks, and in the same time be annoying...

  187. Cribbed From Cryptonomicon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Load up your 'nix distro of choice, run xleds, and learn morse code.

  188. Instant web server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Vaio in exactly that condition. It runs my website and a laptop makes a great server of this type b/c it has a built-in UPS.

    Jeff

  189. Get your money! by ogl_codemonkey · · Score: 1

    Get a Justice of the Peace to witness and sign a statutory declaration that the laptop was in good working order when you checked it into luggage. Fax a copy to the airline, with a written letter of demand that they accept the cost of the replacement of the screen. If they still won't replace it, take them to (small claims) court.

    If they busted $400 worth of my stuff, I'd be pissed even if I had a replacement. Is it okay to slash all the tires on my neighbors SUV because he's also got a sedan? I think not.

  190. Re: Read the carrier's contract of carriage by colinnwn · · Score: 1, Informative

    Almost every airline specifically disclaims liability for damage AND LOSS for checked electronic equipment, valuable wearables like fur, jewelry, bearer instruments such as cash and stocks, and most things other than clothes.

    You might have a case if the overhead bins were full and the airline required you to check it. But really the burden to remove valuable items is on you even in that situation. Case law in this respect is fairly well established.

    Beyond that though, the time and environmental constraints of operating an airline require somewhat rough handling of bags, stacked one on top of others in the bin of the aircraft, and the potential to get rained on when loading/unloading/waiting. One should think very carefully before checking anything valuable.

    The credit card suggestion is a good one though.

  191. get a new screen by TheDreadedGMan · · Score: 1

    I always thought replacing a laptop LCD would be costly and difficult, but having done it the other weekend for a friends laptop it was (relatively) cheap, and very easy, only took part of a morning

    (In New Zealand,) a replacement 15" 1280x800 screen cost NZ $350.

    Without any instructions (Asus laptop... hard to find service manual)... I was able to take out the old screen and insert the new one within about 1.5 hours, using simple tools like a small screwdriver.

    Get over the "it's too hard" problem, and just replace the screen... or just use it as a controller for your robotic toaster.

  192. Media Center by mikechey · · Score: 1

    I would use it as a media center for your living room if you have a large LCD or Plasma with a VGA input. You could use it to play all your music and also play downloaded/streamed movies. I find it comes in handy when friends are over and you want to pull up a funny youtube video and of course I always use it for music at parties.

  193. Re:Wasting "computer power" vs wasting electricity by kd5zex · · Score: 1

    Oh the horrors... CO2 for my children and their children and so on and so on...

    Give it a rest.

    On the other hand, maybe the OP should plant a tree to offset the CO2 which will be spewed into the atmosphere due to his/her selfish and negligent use of a spare laptop. Or better yet, pay Al Gore a few bucks.

  194. dental plans are a good value. by vaporland · · Score: 1

    My employer offers a dental plan which covers 2 exams a year for me and my wife fully paid, and almost 90% paid coverage for everything else. It costs me nothing extra. I would call that a very good value.

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    1. Re:dental plans are a good value. by btempleton · · Score: 1

      There is no free lunch. Of course it costs you. There is a subsidy in that it is untaxed income, but leaving that aside, the plan costs the employer money. It is part of their cost of hiring you, and if they didn't pay it you could negotiate more pay.

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  195. a couple of suggestions by Munsonc · · Score: 1

    Here's a suggestion: Grid Computing. If it is a powerful computer, temporarily hook a monitor up to it so you can navigate to a grid computing website and let them use your whole computer. Another suggestion: Use it as a "desktop", as long as there is a VGA input, you can hook a monitor up to it and kind of "dock" everything to it, such as your mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc. It works well, I do it.

  196. Turn it into a robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give it some wheels/legs and a web cam.

  197. has anyone mentioned wearable computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    stick the remains of your laptop in a backpack. for video you can get goggles with tiny monitors in them. rig up a mouse-like contraption to wear on your sleeve.

  198. Broken Screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try asking at Instructables. They have lots of tech mechanics there for free advice.

  199. Wireless Winprint Server by Alan426 · · Score: 1

    My old Toshiba A215 developed a funky screen, but it found new life as a network interface for a couple of cheapo winprint-only printers. Load XP-Pro so you can access via RDP. Use ghostscript and Redmon to serve Linux or Mac workstations, and plain old SMB print sharing for Window users. Best part is, it works fine over wireless so I can put it and the printers on a cart and move them anywhere. And, built in battery backup!

  200. Reminder by bruceslog · · Score: 1

    Tape your now half laptop to the windshield of your car.

    Now, when-ever you drive to the airport, your half laptop will be there to remind you to NEVER Check Your Laptop Again

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  201. Re:Oblig. ^2 by Phoghat · · Score: 1

    " You must be new here" "Beowulf cluster" My god it's Marty McFly and the Doc and his Delorean, or Mr Peabody and Sherman in the Wayback machine.

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    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
  202. Auto insurance? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Insurance is only for risks where you can't handle the cost of the risk.

    Is driving a car one of them? At least the State of Indiana requires all drivers to either carry insurance from a licensed insurer or deposit $40,000 with the Bureau of Motor Vehicles.

    1. Re:Auto insurance? by btempleton · · Score: 1

      Correct. In particular, there you are showing that if you run somebody else over, that you can pay for what you did. The government only requires insurance to cover you hurting other people on the road, as it can't be sure you will have the means to pay when something happens.

      You are not required to buy collision or theft, though if you have a car loan the bank will probably demand it, as they don't want to worry that you won't pay back the loan on your stolen car with them having no repo ability.

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  203. ACID durability? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Best use I can think of is as a server - web, mail, mysql, whathaveyou. Wear and tear on the hard drive not an issue if you're using something set up correctly - the hard drive will be spun down most of the time.

    If a hard drive is "spun down most of the time", how can the MySQL server achieve durability? Or are you talking about storing a transaction log on a flash drive?

  204. Flight buddy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should take it with you on every flight you take with that airline ever again... pack it in a humongous bag filled with temperfoam & other fake-sounding packing materials and when the airline asks why you're going through all of the trouble - explain to them how they broke your laptop the last time you checked it. Make sure the bag is just small enough to fit in the back of an SUV but absolutely big enough to cause the airline major inconvenience in carrying it. Take out travelers insurance on it... so that when the airline "looses" it (read conveniently leaves it on the tarmac), you can collect enough from the insurance to buy yourself a bran-new laptop!

    Convoluted plan - yes... but those are the best kind!

  205. What subnotebook PC? by tepples · · Score: 1

    I had an old Compaq (well, a few years old), and I kept forgetting the unobtrusive RCA jack in the back that represented "composite video".

    What subnotebook PC would you recommend that has a composite or S-Video output? My Eee PC 900 has neither.

    A great many laptops have S-video out. That is better quality than composite, if your TV (or other video component) has S-video in.

    There are also S-Video to composite cables that just mix the Y and C channels. But that doesn't really help for owners of a PC that can only do VGA, or only do VGA and DVI.

    My Mac has HDMI out, and if your laptop has anything like that, you also basically have TV out; you just need an adapter cable.

    Only for an HDTV, not for an SDTV, unless your Mac's mini-DVI connector has both composite and HDMI signals on it.

    1. Re:What subnotebook PC? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      "But that doesn't really help for owners of a PC that can only do VGA, or only do VGA and DVI."

      Perhaps, but I was writing about finding alternatives to a VGA-to-composite or VGA-to-rf converter. If that's all you have, the point is moot.

  206. How old is your TV? by tepples · · Score: 1

    And my TV has a VGA in.

    When was it purchased? I want to be able to carry my laptop to clients' homes, and most of them have 480i CRT SDTVs because 480i CRT SDTVs were the only affordable TVs a decade ago. Heck, one client last year was still a (still working, paid-for) TV from the pre-DVD era. I could tell because it only had RF in, no composite.

    1. Re:How old is your TV? by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      I have a Dell 37" LCD TV (only part that sucks is the VGA port will only run up to 1024x768). I think they came out around 2005-ish? I'm considering one of the Dell Studio Hybrids (refurbs are around $350)....they have HDMI ports and have "wife-appeal).....

  207. Yeah, Fix the thing by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Someone must have said this someplace, but what about actually fixing the laptop? "How do I use a computer without a built in monitor" is a fucking terrible Ask Slashdot and those who modded it up on the firehose are part of what is wrong with this place today. You're not nerds, you're just fucking lazy wannabes. You can get a display for many laptops for $100, complete — you don't even have to break it out of the shell. As far as I can tell the only reason not to do this with a powerful and thus valuable laptop is if you're afraid of turning a screwdriver. Did you even check eBay for replacement panels?

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  208. Re: Read the carrier's contract of carriage by CTalkobt · · Score: 1

    The specific disclaimers of liability are typically there to dissuade claims - it would be akin to me putting a disclaimer on my shirt that states, "Caution :You will be sucker-punched" and then me going around punching people.

    Just because they say it - doesn't make it (legally) true.

    Notice : I am not a laywer, lawyer or layer or any combination.

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  209. Install The Gorilla on it by Benbrizzi · · Score: 1

    If you're into gaming just buy an adapter to connect your laptop to a TV and a couple game controllers and install The Gorilla on your PC. That way you can turn your broken laptop into a ghetto retro gaming system with an interface you can navigate using only a gaming controller.

    (Unfortunately the guy who created The Gorilla apparently died about 2 years ago so don't expect any updates soon...)

  210. Re: Sucker Punch Me by colinnwn · · Score: 1

    They are definitely there partially to dissuade claims, they are also there from operational discoveries that certain services can not be economically and reliably performed.

    But your analogy isn't complete. It would be like me going up to you, you have a shirt on that says "Caution: You will be sucker-punched" and me saying, "OK, sucker punch me." If we both agree about the facts of the case, I think you would have a hard time finding a judge to convict me of assault.

    As you point out, certain rights are inalienable if it is a right that can not be legally waived, or the contract is ruled to be too one sided. That is why if the bins were full, the GP might have a better case. He reasonably wanted to take the flight he paid for, the airline asked him to check the bag, and he didn't have other options immediately available. But the fact the GP sought the bag to be checked, he consented to the terms of the contract, and had other options available to him.

    I am neither a lawyer, but I have had exposure to aviation law.

  211. replace the screen by jameskojiro · · Score: 1

    I bough a new screen for my Nephew's computer on E-bay for around 60 bucks and was able to replace it myself. it is not that hard to do.

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  212. Sell it for parts. by Jonah+Bomber · · Score: 1

    The parts are often worth more than the whole, and you'll be helping someone out who needs a new [fill in the blank].

  213. If you must... by EkriirkE · · Score: 1

    If you must check your sensitive tidbits, why not have someone at the check in counter verify and sign off on working condition of the contents before relinquishing your bag(s)?

    Or take photo evidence at the counter of such.

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  214. Note to self by serutan · · Score: 1

    Never travel on an unnamed airline.

  215. I had problems once with a Gateway screen... by kvandivo · · Score: 1

    I had a broken screen that caused me all kinds of grief with Gateway. I finally (kinda) got what I had coming to me, though. You can read about it at:

    omnux.com/kvandivo/laptop

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  216. Re:NO. Sue them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    You cannot sue them. In the "Contract of Carriage" you agreed you will hold them harmless if you are unwise enough to check any electronics, camera equipment, musical instruments, art, legal documents, and many, many other things. The airlines are basically responsible for your clothes, shoes, sundries, and the actual bag, within limits; the stuff you HAVE to take with you.

    Go onto any domestic airline's web site and search for "Contract of Carriage" or "Terms of Transportation."

    If you go to the US Airways web site, look for "Terms of Transportation" and look for Section 11.2.

    I have refused to let them take my camera equipment from me to check it. They tell me there won't be enough room in the overhead, I explain there is over $20k in cameral equipment in the backpack, and it goes where I go. I tell the gate attendant to force me and my carry ons, plus my checked luggage, onto a later flight on several occasions, but have yet been forced to do so.

    Anonymous Coward, Esq.

  217. Re:Wasting "computer power" vs wasting electricity by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1

    If it is a home server, it is probably sitting idle 95% of the time. If it is a TV box, probably 80% ... unless you are a hopeless TV addict. For that 80-95% of the time it is no more useful than a light bulb in a cupboard. (OK, the TV box might be recording something that you might watch later. But unless you actually do watch it, that's just wasted electricity ... and factored into my 80% guesstimate.)

  218. Re:Wasting "computer power" vs wasting electricity by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1

    I think it is time you discussed this with your children.

  219. Re:Wasting "computer power" vs wasting electricity by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1

    And don't forget to talk about that gas-guzzling SUV you drive around in, etc, etc.

  220. Re:NO. Sue them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This/\/\. You will most likely win in small claims court as the company will most likely just pay out. (As they most often do.) Or talk to you CC company.

    Either way you are getting a check so I would use it as a server(file/torrent/whatever). You can remote desktop in from your home machine. Plus laptops have a built in UPS :)

  221. Re:Wasting "computer power" vs wasting electricity by raodin · · Score: 1

    I'm curious, do you unplug all your network hardware when you're not actively using it? By your logic, a cable/dsl modem and router are as useful as a light bulb in a cupboard a good deal of the time as well.

    By their nature laptops are fairly power efficient, especially when idle, and a good chunk of their power draw is from the display, which is non-functional in this case anyway. I'd wager that a headless laptop would draw less power as a DVR than a set-top DVR from your cable or satellite company, and a laptop as a home server would certainly draw a lot less power than a desktop in the same role.

  222. Re:Wasting "computer power" vs wasting electricity by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1

    I power it off. Don't you?

  223. Re: Sucker Punch Me by dolo724 · · Score: 1

    But your analogy isn't complete. It would be like me going up to you, you have a shirt on that says "Caution: You will be sucker-punched" and me saying, "OK, sucker punch me."

    My shirt has a clause stating "you may opt-out of the sucker-punch by hitting me first".

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  224. opposite of smart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Space heater.

  225. donate it to the OLPC-OYAFYK program: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one laptop per child- oh yeah and fuck you, kid.