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Re:People, ACLU
This was yesterday's page, and at the bottom Tycho says the following:
Strawberry Shortcake Update: I have mails in to the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, and I'm supposed to talk with a person from the ACLU today. I don't think this is something we can do without a Sugar Daddy.
The fact that he doesn't mention the ACLU in today's main page somewhat confuses me...did he have the talk? Did they tell him it's shaky? Has the world, or in this case the USA, as usual *SIGH* gone completely bonkers? -
Re:Admirable pluck...Are you offering to foot their legal bills?
If you truly do want to help, go to the Club PA section of their site and contribute. It's real money like this that pays the bills folks. Plus you get cool stuff every month for being a member!
I am in no way affiliated with PA. I just love the site.
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Re:Would have more sympathy of it was actually fun
I can't believe you forgot the parody of Apple's Switch campaign.
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Re:Would have more sympathy of it was actually fun
This is the strip that always comes to mind when someone mentions PA. Granted, it's pretty old, but it hits pretty close to home.
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Re:Would have more sympathy of it was actually fun
Here are four of my favorites, but (as mentioned above) you may not find each one funny if you haven't played Tribes 2, Resident Evil, Warcraft 3, and Asheron's Call 2, respectively.
Tribes 2
Resident Evil
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Re:Would have more sympathy of it was actually fun
Here are four of my favorites, but (as mentioned above) you may not find each one funny if you haven't played Tribes 2, Resident Evil, Warcraft 3, and Asheron's Call 2, respectively.
Tribes 2
Resident Evil
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Re:Would have more sympathy of it was actually fun
Here are four of my favorites, but (as mentioned above) you may not find each one funny if you haven't played Tribes 2, Resident Evil, Warcraft 3, and Asheron's Call 2, respectively.
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Re:Would have more sympathy of it was actually fun
Here are four of my favorites, but (as mentioned above) you may not find each one funny if you haven't played Tribes 2, Resident Evil, Warcraft 3, and Asheron's Call 2, respectively.
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Resident Evil
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Re:Nazi reference highly inappropriate
It's a lazy shortcut that relies on a certain perception of what a Nazi is that ends up watering down the whole concept. I don't think the Holocaust should be watered down.
The characters depicted in the comic strip are clearly not the best role models in the world. Now let them make their lil' jokes in peace and stop being the thought police officer in charge of nazi-related humour and merriment.
They are not "watering down" anything, they are insulting a power greater than themselves by equating it to a former, well recognised, great power of evil. You, of course, have a right not to like it, and I have a right to think you're a wang-less loser for reading so much into this silly comic strip.
Watering down the holocaust...jeebus! -
How to support them
If you love their comics or just want to support their stand, Penny Arcade does take donations.
At the bottom of the ClubPA page (http://www.penny-arcade.com/clubpa.php3) there's a link to their paypay donation box.
And as an added bonus, no matter what size of donation you'll get access to the most excellent "Over Easy", one of the best comics online for both artistic merit and style, highly recommended!
C'mon, toss in a buck for the most excellent comic, you won't be dissapointed! -
Re:Would have more sympathy of it was actually fun
Unfortunately explaining a joke ruins it, but you didn't seem to get it in the first place.
American McGee's "Alice" was released a couple years ago. It was Alice in Wonderland (a sweet, charming, etc childhood story), but much MUCH darker. Like, the part of max payne where he goes crazy darker.
A couple weeks ago, American McGee's "Oz" was annonced. It's going to be the same dark style as Alice, but based on the Wizard of Oz (another sweet childhood story). So American McGee is a brand that makes dark covers of childrens' work, hence the strip.
Oh, and this is pure genious. (probably because it actually HAS happened to me) -
My vote..
This one is the worst. You will go blind and your IQ will drop to single digits.
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I was going to register sucks site..
But found out it was already sucks and there for there was no reason need to do so.
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NOT clearly a parody
Penny Arcade was poking fun at American McGee's treatment of other worlds (eg. Alice, Oz), not at the Strawberry Shortcake world. Strawberry Shortcake was a means to an end. It could have been replaced by Pooh or the Smurfs with the same effect. The joke, to me, was the darkening retale of percieved lighthearted, children's stories.
In his own comment on April 21, 2003 Tycho provides a link to other court cases and specifically mentions "Dr. Seuss Enterprises Vs. Penguin Books" on page three as possible precident that would work against Penny Arcade.
That is not to say what PA did was and should be illegal. It's simply not clearly parody. It's something that would require extensive (expensive) legal processes. -
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...is up for a (probably) very short time here.
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I wonder,
I wonder what people would think if my mp3 player looked like that. Came to think of a recent strip
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Re:"Development" is a bit strong...This reminds me of an old Penny Arcade: "There are absolutely no details at this time! I'm so excited!"
On another note, I'd love to see potential scripts for some of these flicks, particularly ones where the main character in the video game has no speaking part, or where little to no concrete plot exists. Actress: "What's my character's motivation?" Director: You're on this secret island, and you have to fight all of these guys in a mysterious tournament by using very sexy martial arts skills. And you're wearing nothing but this piece of dental floss." Or better yet, Actor: "What's my motivation?" Director: "You have this hunger, this insatiable hunger, for these dots, you see...."
I would also like to see an accounting of all of the drugs, illegal, prescription, and OTC, that will be used by the team planning on turning friggin' Pac-Man into a "live-action fantasy adventure."
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Tetris: See the new shape of fear, Summer 2004
Penny Arcade did a comic about a Tetris movie.
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Re:Hope the lawsuit gets thrown out, if there is o
but I say that the Strawberry Shortcake material was the primary subject of the material
Gabe Newell disagrees with you on that point (he says so in the text he wrote to accompany the image). I'd expect the same from a judge or juror- upon learning the comic was written for a professional videogames website, they will agree that the primary subject was the one most pertinent to videogames (that is, a famous game designer, rather than a 15-year old pink doll)
Did he wake up in the morning and decide "I think I'll write about a toy I saw once in elementary school?" Of course not- he read an annoucement of "American McGee's Oz" and pondered "What other innocent, girlish fantasy-land could he plunder next?"
More accurately, the comic is making a statement how American McGee would (unintentionally) make a parody of Strawberry Shortcake if he were allowed to convert it to a videogame.
Exactly. That's the gripping hand. "making a statement how American McGee" tells us that the critical commentary is directed towards McGee primarily, not Strawberry Shortcake. You say they allude to a parody of SShortcake, suggesting that McGee would make one, but even if that's so, they aren't themselves parodying SShortcake.
I like it, but then I've been following Penny Arcade for years.
It's a good joke- somewhat esoteric, so a reader will feel satisfied if he understood it without hints. (and people who needed hints from the text to remember who AMG or SS were probably wouldn't get the joke even with help)
I agree that the material you are infringing should be the subject (or one of the subjects) of the parody
I don't agree with that, actually. Yes, that is the law. But I don't believe it should be.
I like it, but then I've been following Penny Arcade for years.
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If you think /. is bad at this....
You haven't seen this.
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Supporting PA
I think that it would be a good idea if everyone who would like to show some support for PA regarding this issue shelled out some cash and donated or signed up for Club PA. Lawyers aren't usually cheap. Yeah, they use PayPal, but it's the lesser evil when compared to corporations bullying the little guy.
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Mirror of Image
Image is from Penny Arcade. It was removed from cache, modified to be smaller in the Gimp and placed in this folder. Please do not download it =).
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Legal Precedent is not with them....
The big hole in the "parody/satire" defense is the fact that Strawberry Shortcake (A children's book character if you didn't know) isn't their target. It more targets American McGee. Just take a look at their news for that day (Especially Gabe's post midway through). And the problem is that court precedent doesn't support them (link to
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It appears that the contact us section of american greetings has been slashdotted.
500 Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, help@corporate.americangreetings.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Here's what I was attempting to send, feel free to use mine at your convenience.
Regarding the spoof of strawberry shortcake at penny-arcade.com
I think that your company is over zealous with its requirement to remove the parody comic from it's web site. You should be aware however your action been posted at several online news forums about your meager attempt at censorship. A pardoy is just that and it in by no means hurts the trade marks, nor does it cause confusion with the original work. I have also written a letter to the creator of the parody urging him to stand up your legal department and challenge your stupidity in court. If he chooses to do so I will gladly donate to his legal efforts.
Furthermore, I will urge my family, friends and co-workers never to buy any product from american greetings ever again, unless this sillyness by your company comes to an end.
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Re:I'm pro funny too...You've missed the actual joke the comic was making. Read the news item for this quote that explains it:
'My take on McGee/McFarlane:
(Quoting Gabe)
'Making something gross or sexual or both is probably the easiest thing in the world to do. Just look at the margins of any 7th graders homework. You will find plenty of doodles on par with anything McGee has produced. American has said that his new game OZ will stay fairly true to the books but it will be "darker". It's sad that is the best he can come up with. American has the opportunity to take these well known and loved stories and re-imagine them for the world of video games, a medium with unlimited possibilities. When he made Alice I gave him credit for taking the story in a new direction even if it wasn't a terribly interesting one. Now with OZ he's doing the same thing and it shows that Alice was not some creative masterpiece. This guy is just a pervert and this is all he knows how to do. It's like he has some kind of huge fucking machine. Beloved stories and characters go in one side and junior high quality goth crap comes out the other.Yeah, Yeah McGee, we all know you are very angry. You should save yourself some fucking time and just wear a T-shirt that says "I am dark and brooding".' -
Re:I'm pro funny too...You've completely missed the point. The entire point of the strip was how 'easy' and immature that form of humour is!
Quoth Gabe here:
Making something gross or sexual or both is probably the easiest thing in the world to do. Just look at the margins of any 7th graders homework. You will find plenty of doodles on par with anything McGee has produced. American has said that his new game OZ will stay fairly true to the books but it will be "darker". It's sad that is the best he can come up with. American has the opportunity to take these well known and loved stories and re-imagine them for the world of video games, a medium with unlimited possibilities. When he made Alice I gave him credit for taking the story in a new direction even if it wasn't a terribly interesting one. Now with OZ he's doing the same thing and it shows that Alice was not some creative masterpiece. This guy is just a pervert and this is all he knows how to do. It's like he has some kind of huge fucking machine. Beloved stories and characters go in one side and junior high quality goth crap comes out the other.Yeah, Yeah McGee, we all know you are very angry. You should save yourself some fucking time and just wear a T-shirt that says "I am dark and brooding".
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Re:Obligatory DNF post
Or as Tycho said, EB will let you reserve a unicorn if you put $5 down.
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Intriguing
Nice to see the return of some old favorites, but Penny Arcade will still be my fave, even it is only based around gamers
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Link fixer to the rescue!
Link!
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Re:When
You won't get quality X rated games unless you ask for them!
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I think we should turn to the gaming gods..