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I would recommend shooting back next time.

He's not interested in shooting back. He's interested in not having idiots next door who are armed to the teeth. Shooting back will not solve this problem, or the problem of the tyranny of the law that allows it.

it's there to be able to stop the government from imposing tyranny

LOL. How does that work? "Your" government has already imposed a tyranny on you. As some other liberatarian helpfully explained here, all your laws are "tyrannical", because you're not their concern and they are passed to enforce commercial interests that are not yours.

Princeton University study: Public opinion has "near-zero" impact on U.S. law. [represent.us]

Gilens & Page found that the number of Americans for or against any idea has no impact on the likelihood that congress will make it law. "The preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy."

One thing that does have an influence? Money. While the opinions of the bottom 90% of income earners in America have a "statistically non-significant impact," Economic elites, business interests, and people who can afford lobbyists still carry major influence. http://scholar.princeton.edu/s... [princeton.edu]

How have guns helped you to avoid this situation? They have not. "Gun rights" are a red herring, which only gives you an illusion of protection, but actually subject you to the tyranny of a militarized police force, which you have no hope of standing up against.

The 2nd amendment is the only reason you have the right to say shit about anything

Not really, that's in the first amendment :) And the organization which actually enforces it is the government. Without a strong government and the protection of the police force, attempts to preclude free speech like the murder in Charlottesville would quickly escalate into small wars where the right will be the might.

You're so clueless as to how your country works that it defies belief.

Aren't you a gem. I tell you I'm in favor of US to stop meddling, and you still shit on me.

Princeton University study: Public opinion has "near-zero" impact on U.S. law.

Gilens & Page found that the number of Americans for or against any idea has no impact on the likelihood that congress will make it law. "The preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy."

One thing that does have an influence? Money. While the opinions of the bottom 90% of income earners in America have a "statistically non-significant impact," Economic elites, business interests, and people who can afford lobbyists still carry major influence. http://scholar.princeton.edu/s...

Glad we agree its not addictive

I don't think word choice matters very much in the OPs point, be it addiction, habit forming, dependence, cravings, or psychological addiction, but there still is reasonable support for the involvement of a biological mechanism:

https://www.princeton.edu/news...

https://pr.princeton.edu/news/...

Overfeeding should be considered child abuse and corporations wanting you to keep buying their food is an incredibly poor excuse.

Possibly but still a lot of people, from parents to corporations, are encouraging people to over eat.

No, in this case, if people are well educated they understand exactly what happens. If you consume past your TDEE, the excess kcal is stored as fat. There is no argument here, that situation is fixed. You overeat it, you wear it.

I'm not sure what you mean by well educated or what the percentage of the population you think that represents, or if we can make such clear distinctions between those that are and those that aren't. But anyway, my point was that especially in social species when an individual's behavior seems to go against an individual's wishes and what appears to be the psychological mechanics or logic of the situation, then it's more than fair to consider things like culture, addiction, and genetics.

Glad we agree its not addictive

I don't think word choice matters very much in the OPs point, be it addiction, habit forming, dependence, cravings, or psychological addiction, but there still is reasonable support for the involvement of a biological mechanism:

https://www.princeton.edu/news...

https://pr.princeton.edu/news/...

Overfeeding should be considered child abuse and corporations wanting you to keep buying their food is an incredibly poor excuse.

Possibly but still a lot of people, from parents to corporations, are encouraging people to over eat.

No, in this case, if people are well educated they understand exactly what happens. If you consume past your TDEE, the excess kcal is stored as fat. There is no argument here, that situation is fixed. You overeat it, you wear it.

I'm not sure what you mean by well educated or what the percentage of the population you think that represents, or if we can make such clear distinctions between those that are and those that aren't. But anyway, my point was that especially in social species when an individual's behavior seems to go against an individual's wishes and what appears to be the psychological mechanics or logic of the situation, then it's more than fair to consider things like culture, addiction, and genetics.

This!

OpenSPARC cores have been used in the OpenPiton project from Princeton, building a scalable system (at least, more scalable than the crossbar-based T1) with their own memory subsystem.

And you know what? Last week they launched a new version of the project, replacing the OpenSPARC cores with the Ariane RISC-V core from PULP (ETH).

If MIPS launches their own open-source cores, no doubt somebody will implement them in their project. But they would need to be really good (in performance, MIPS/W or some other relevant metric) to beat the current momentum of RISC-V. I don't think it will happen.

Finally, MIPS and RISC-V ISAs are very similar to each other (except atomics and extensions), so if they open-source a really good core, maybe someone adapts the instruction decoder to understand RISC-V. Regards, I doubt 2019 will be the year of MIPS.

Sounds like, on practical terms, the people do indeed elect the president via a democratic republic. Calling it a democracy may be technically incorrect (and of course, everyone agree that's totally the best type of correct), but it aint so far off the mark that most would consider it wrong.

Depends. Even totalitarian dictatorships can have voting. What's the definition of a "representative democracy"? Does it mean the people elect representatives, or does it mean the politicians actually represent the people? If it's the latter, the US doesn't seem to be a representative democracy, as discussed in this 2014 paper by Martin Gilens (Princeton University) and Benjamin I. Page (Northwestern University).

Summary: "... economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence."

Could someone explain to me why wind and solar are better than *MODERN* nuclear plants, particularly fast breeder reactors, that output very little waste and are relatively safe? Nuclear plants don't vary with the sun and wind and so have no need for expensive/complex energy storage solutions to go along with them. Is the replacement of nuclear purely down to the green lobby not liking the word "nuclear" or is there any justification that has a scientific basis?

Because renewables are cheaper. From what I've seen there also seem to be reliability issues with these breeder reactors and 'reliability issues' and 'nuclear' in the same sentence tend to be a downer when trying to sell nuclear to the public. On top of that, and according to the International Panel on Fissile Materials: "After six decades and the expenditure of the equivalent of tens of billions of dollars, the promise of breeder reactors remains largely unfulfilled and efforts to commercialise them have been steadily cut back in most countries". Thus a number of countries have abandoned breeder reactor development programs, In Europe this is because renewables are simply cheaper and easier to develop, manage and operate. For those wanting to know more here is an article from the "Bulletin of the Nuclear Scientists":

https://www.princeton.edu/sgs/...

The bit at the end kind of sums sodium reactors up: "In 1956, U.S. Navy Admiral Hyman Rickover summarized his experience with a sodium cooled reactor that powered early U.S. nucear usbarines by saying that such reactors are "expensive to build, complex to operate, succeptible to prologned shutdown as a result of even minor malfunctions, and difficult and time conusming to repair." More than 50 years later , this summary remains apt.

We don't actually have a conservative party anymore. We have two crony capitalist parties with opposing views on a few social issues, to keep the masses from realizing they're really just fangirling over which set of rich people get richer.

Except there is no such thing as a non crony capitalist society, you guys are fed so much pro corproate propaganda you never check to see whether your society works as advertise. There has never been a time your government has worked for you, there was a brief moment after the great depression but after that, the rich got mad and went to claw back all working peoples gains and you all fell for it.

US distribution of wealth

https://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesa...

Princeton study

https://scholar.princeton.edu/...

Here are billions of dollars in energy subsidies, aka when politicians are saying social services need to be cut, they are speaking out both sides of their mouths because they know most people don't look at what companies are getting free handouts from subsidies.

https://www.imf.org/external/p...

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

https://vimeo.com/39566117

Other than envy, why should you care that someone is making more, a lot more, than you? If you are doing better than before, for the same effort, that's awesome! Absolute poverty is dropping like a stone, even without government help, because by specialization and trade, we're all incentivized to do what works best in our own individual circumstances. Relative poverty, which is what you're railing on about, will only seem to go away in communism, which of course it won't because everyone except the leaders will be poor (think USSR, GDR, Cuba, North Korea): putting in the effort to become much more productive than others without reward gets old fast.

Your whole post reads like an uneducated screed.... perhaps you should actually know how the world works before you open your mouth. The world you talk about has never existed. AKA the rich do not simply get rich by productivity, they buy politicians and get policies to favor themselves. They have power to reshape the political and economic environment in which everyone exists. I've watched for the last 20 years as big mega corporations (aka the rich) have stolen PC games out from under us because the internet undermines the publics ability to hold companies accountable. You're not going to hold a company accountable when they are 100 miles away from you.

Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/...

Billions in energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/p...

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

https://vimeo.com/39566117

I'm sorry and I know that they aren't very popular here, but that's what patents are for.

That's OK. I don't have a problem with chemical (or pharmaceutical) patents, since those ones (and only those ones) actually work.

Bessen, James & Meurer, Michael J. (2008) Patent failure. Princeton University Press.

Your norms are only normal for you.

My norms are based on the English language — where the word "rape" has a particular definition. Declaring other things equivalent to it does not make them so — meatless meatballs aren't magically turned into meatballs by a declaration.

Breaking the partner's trust, as Assange is alleged to have done, is wrong. And it may be illegal. But it does not make him a rapist.

And that's all assuming, these things have rally happened too...

"If"? You brought that into the conversation with zero evidence. Just dropped it in like nobody was going to notice?

??? I said "if" several times in this thread. Of course, I have no proof, NSA (or DEA) has been involved. But there are too many hints at them being behind it — the biggest being, why him? (Or why only him?)

Make no mistake: It's rape.

It may be "rape" legally — because that's how Texas legislators chose to write the law. It is not rape by a normal human's definition — that is, it is not "having sex with someone against their will".

Are undocumented immigrants criminals?

Crossing a country's border without the country's permission is Malum in Se. Having sex with with a fully-developed 16 y/o woman is merely Malum Prohibitum.

Making up conspiracies out of thin air is no way to live.

There are too many similarities with the bizarre accusations against Assange's for this to pass the smell-test.

Antisocial behavior is just a fancy name for being an asshole.

So, your contention is, "antisocial" is "asshole" by definition? Could you cite any such definition? All I can find is this — part 2, where "asocial" and "antisocial" are synonyms and the examples are criminal acts. Though I agree, that crime does make the perpetrator an asshole, the much-maligned "tech bros" aren't accused of anything criminal...

More importantly, the OP did not blame the "bros" for doing anything antisocial. Simply being a(nti)social is enough — in his opinion — to make one an "asshole". And that's a false statement, just as I said...

You just call anyone you don't like "fascist".

No, professor, it is you who does that. I call Chinese "Fascist" because that is, what they are — by the very definition of the term. Unlike the Communist/Socialist China of the late 20th century, today's China is Fascist: capitalist markets exist — and move the economy — but they are tightly controlled by the government. The secondary indications — like rising nationalism and persecution of minorities (complete with ethnic cleansing) are there too. And — and this is the point most important to this discussion — neither a person nor a company can survive after displeasing the government in general and the Dear Leader in particular.

Up until Trump's election, the US was going in that same direction (and not fast enough for some people). One hopes, he'd be able to survive politically long enough to cripple the creep towards Fascism for a few generations — by nominating judges with a similar pessimism over the government's power.

But, whether he succeeds in that or not, his very attempts make him anti-Fascist. That Google's CEO dislikes Trump for his imaginary Fascism, while willingly cooperating with the actual Fascists of China is a sign of deep malaise of this country's elites — both real, like this very bright Mr. Brin, and the wannabes, like a certain much dimmer teacher who is so wanting in education.

https://www.princeton.edu/~pro... - How about Princeton? Not exactly a conservative bastion, eh? I love watching you libtards twist your panties up around this! Douchelord hypocrites!

> Precisely. That's why only a fool calls C a "HLL".

Fools like Dennis Ritchie and Brian Kernighan, you mean?

AFAIK, patents on chemical and pharmaceutical do bring a net benefit to society, but other patents don't.

Bessen, James & Meurer, Michael J. (2008) Patent Failure. Princeton University Press.

Two are all that are required to maintain the charade.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at with "The Party" jab.
Look at those terrible Commies, with their state run Party. We have two parties, that's so much better!
These guys at Princeton agree.

I believe by online, the poster means using a web interface rather then downloading mail like I do with pop

"Online" and "using web-interface" are very different things. Indeed, the concept of being "online" predates that of "web" by quite some years. For example, your Netflix client is, most certainly, operating "online" — but not inside a web-browser.

IMAP4 has largely replaced POP — but even the old POP-only mail programs usually allowed interactive manipulation of e-mail. If you wish to discuss the features and capabilities of Thunderbird further, please, state affirmatively, that you have used it yourself — in the last 5 years.

Nvidia downgrades the independent press into a marketing tool.

Nvidia will be the envy of all other companies.

The press has always been an arm of big business, this is nothing new.

Education as ignorance

https://chomsky.info/warfare02...

Manufacturing consent (book)

http://www.amazon.com/Manufact...

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

https://vimeo.com/39566117

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/...

The problem is not lack of income. The problem is irresponsible behavior.

What you're missing is that lack of income causes irrisponsible behaviour. Someone who is preoccupied with money problems effectively looses 13 IQ points, according to this research, making them more likely to make bad decisions that perpetuate their problems.

Someone I know has a low income and used to have a drinking problem. What enabled her to stop drinking was a period during which she got some extra money. That was temporary, but because she quit drinking she could get by much easier afterwards. When I asked her what had prevented her from just quitting the habit before her answer was that it was the daily stress of not having enough money that made her drink to soften it. The extra money took away the stress for long enough to tackle the drinking habit.

When I hear law enforcement officials from a plurality of countries state this, instead of central bankers and economic pundits, I'll be more inclined to believe it's a significant factor.

Here is the actual reality: central bankers crave a cashless society so they can impose negative interest rates. That's literally it.

If you want a pretty good overview of the big topics in monetary policy (and everyone should be interested because monetary policy involves the redistribution of purchasing power - it's interested in you regardless of whether you're interested in it), here's a very good overview of the current state of the art, at an established Washington DC think tank, with the former head of the central bank, and several established high level policy makers and pundits.

So we have to compete with China in creepiness?

Of course since the average american and person in capitalist society is unaware how extreme wealth inequality is. So all the rulers are at full blown war against their publics. That's why the spying is there, to make sure you have the "correct" free market, corporation worshipping thoughts and not notice the end of the rule of law, endless copyright laws which equals total domination of government by the rich.

See it in this speach by former national security adivisor of the United states:

Elites fear political awakening of the globe

The Citibank memo

Citigroup memo

US distribution of wealth

https://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

These links will take a while to digest, but if you want to understand what's going on in the world, you owe it to yourself to become informed about the true state of the world. Realize that business and the wealthy is hostile to your interests.

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Aka the rich (big business) vs the rest of mankind.

The grand chessboard

The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives

Grand chessboard user review

Stratfor and social media like reddit to monitor / influence and control public opinion.

Reddit and intelligence agencies

  Wikileaks -- Reddit and intelligence agencies

"Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role."

Crisis of democracy

Crisis of democracy - PDF

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-D... ">Crisis of democracy - BOOK

Education as ignorance

Education as ignorance

  Overthrowing other peoples governments

Overthrowing other peoples governments, the master list

Interference in other states when the rich/corporations dont get their way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxp_wgFWQo&feature=youtu.be&list=PLKR2GeygdHomOZeVKx3P0fqH58T3VghOj&t=724

The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence

Original paper

The problem isn't the bail bondsmen. The problem are American courts that set excessive bail and keep people in jail for relatively minor crimes (often victimless crimes like drug possession) in the hope that they agree to a plea bargain.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The arraignment doesn't even start until after your bond hearing, so you don't plea anything at that point, let alone make a plea bargain. The purpose of the bond is an assurance that you'll show up to court when it is time for your arraignment, which is when you'll make your plea. If you don't show up to court, the court keeps all of your money, then they issue a warrant for your arrest, only now you're guilty of another offense as well. If you don't post bond, then you wait in detention until it is time for your arraignment.

You don't either, at least to the extent that your second paragraph directly undercuts your first. Without Release on Recognizance ("RoR," but thanks for being obtuse), a bond is required at every stage from prior to the bond hearing to arraignment, trial, sentencing, and report to jail.

Don't pretend that sustained pre-trial detention is not a thing. The original poster was exactly right that courts tend to set excessive bail and keep people in jail for relatively minor crimes, so that they are faced with having to scrape together a bail bond deposit (if they can) or plea (if they cannot) if they want to avoid an average of 200+ days of pre-trail detention (Table 1).

Release on Recognizance is down to 14 percent (page 1). Yet you will have have a hard time showing that the remaining 86% are all "irresponsible dickwads."

Used correctly, lead acid batteries have far longer lifetimes, and can do far more cycles than lithium ion.

No they do not. Quite the opposite actually. It's not even close.

I've heard the experiences are comparable.

What I'm doing is nothing new nor unique. When you listen to Terence McKenna, Allan Watts, Ram Dass, and other modern mystics and distill their teachings down to the raw essentials you find everyone teaches pretty much the same basic spiritual principles: Unconditional Love and Forgiveness for All. Based on my personal experiences I agree with that 100%.

What made my experience memorable for me is that a friend of my brother gave me one of Raymond's Moody's book Life after Life. That got me to curious to try meditation. One my very first try I met my Soul. That was proof enough: "OK, maybe there just is something to this whole meditation thing after all." Over the years, both solo meditation, and meditation with the wife, you quickly find out "We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto." We're mapping whole new territory.

These experiences are the reason I say "Mind, not space, is the final frontier -- because there is nothing, or no thing, but Mind." The _real_ interesting question becomes: Whose mind? :-) It dovetails with the quintessential questions: Who am I? Who was I? Who will I become?

It's great to see other people reach the same conclusions about Consciousness: The Primacy of Consciousness - Peter Russell

There are a couple of other important points I've learnt along the way:

* It never ceases to amaze me how an armchair critic is now magically "an expert" on an experience they have never even had.

* Religion is about taking one man's Spiritual experience and adding all sorts of bullshit dogma and tradition around the "correct way."

But I digress ...

What is really cool is that we have just barely scratched the surface with the entire "Mind over Matter" thing as a species.

Modern science is stuck in a myopic reductionist POV: "If it isn't physical then it does't exist." -- which is the epitome of ignorance because Time and Numbers themselves are non-physical. *facepalm*

Princeton for 28 years has evidence that (human) consciousness CAN effect a random number generator -- but important clues like this, sadly, are marginalized or ignored.
http://www.princeton.edu/~pear...

Thankfully First Contact ~2024 - 2034 will (help) put an end to our primitive thinking and widen our perspective to the next level of understanding.

Great ready for an interesting ride these next few decades. We're about to learn some really cool stuff about reality.

--
Atheist: A blind man arguing with those that can see that color doesn't exist.

If you really want to understand this topic, start by watching Andreas Antonopoulos, a computer scientist who specializes in Data Communications and Distributed Systems. If you care to go further, he has 2 books Mastering Bitcoin (very technical), and The Internet of Money (for the layman).

I would recommend starting with Blockchain vs. Bitcoin in front of Consultants. You can watch his videos on x2 speed because he enunciates well.

Don't believe anything in the Slashdot comments. On every article about Bitcoin / Crypto, so many comments are factually inaccurate, even when they sound intelligent, plausible, and are modded +5. In the words of Andreas, "(Bitcoin) isn't what it appears to be at first glance."

Finally, Princeton has a series of free lectures here: Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Technologies

Christianity provides, among other things, a valuable heuristic for maintaining a stable civilization.

You're delusional if you believe this, in this point in time. The oligarchy is at war with the bottom 90% of society and the public still believes in capitalism, capitalists have literally had the US in a state of lawlessness and endless wars for the last 200 years, there is nothing stable about "christian civilization".

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/

  Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU56Rv0OXM

https://vimeo.com/39566117

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Democracy Inc

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed- Inverted-Totalitarianism/dp/069114589X

From war is a racket:

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."[p. 10]

"War is a racket. ...It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [p. 23] "The general public shoulders the bill [for war]. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations." [p. 24]

General Butler is especially trenchant when he looks at post-war casualties. He writes with great emotion about the thousands of traumatised soldiers, many of who lose their minds and are penned like animals until they die, and he notes that in his time, returning veterans are three times more likely to die prematurely than those who stayed home.

http://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated/dp/0922915865/

There are is a very active field of "voting theory" research about how voting systems can be improved, but little of it has to do with computers per se, though they can make implementation of the post-vote processing more convenient. That is to say, it is not the "computer" that is improving anything. Various forms of preferential voting have a lot to recommend them, along with variations like "instant run-off".

In general it is a good idea to identify actual problems (e.g. widely unpopular candidates winning due multiple candidates splitting the vote; spoilers being run to siphon of votes from specific candidates, etc.) and propose actual fixes that are subjected to formal analyses, large scale simulations and such to validate that they are improvements.

The suggestions of the OP mostly sound like "let's just try something different" rather than carefully considered improvement proposals.

Maryland Democrats shouldn't have done it, but don't use them to justify Republicans doing it; if anything, Maryland could be seen as a reaction to abuses by the Republicans. Back in 2012, the top 9 states for partisan discrepancy had only a single state where the maps were drawn by Democrats and favored Democrats (Illinois), and the partisan discrepancy there was 1.7 seats out of 18. By contrast, that top 9 set of states included six states controlled by Republicans, with a partisan discrepancy of 13.2 extra Republican seats (out of 79 seats in those six states). Overall, the country voted 50.4% for Democratic candidates, and 49.6% for Republican, but the House ended up 46.2% Democratic to 53.8% R; a 0.8% margin of victory in vote became a 7.6% margin of defeat in results. A small part of that is structural (Democrats living in tightly packed, highly Democratic areas without gerrymandering being needed), but the majority is only explainable through intentional gerrymandering.

The point is, all the gerrymandering is wrong, and it would be best to eliminate it wholesale (e.g. sweeping Supreme Court decision to at least limit the degree of gerrymandering), not in piecemeal court decisions. But that doesn't change the fact that Republicans have abused it far more; Republican-controlled redistricting after the 2010 census led to at least a 26 seat swing in the House margins, while the effect of Democratic party controlled redistricting was low single digits at most. Pretending it's okay for the Republicans to steal a whole cake because a couple Democrats stole a slice later on is sophistry.

Linus created an operating system, while Trump got caught committing treason colluding with a foreign hostile adversary's attack on our democracy.

I don't see the comparison.

Trump is going to prison.

Linus is a good person.

Nearly right!

Linus created an operating system

Linus wrote a kernel. Most of the rest of Linux distributions comes from elsewhere, hence the preferred title GNU/Linux.

while Trump got caught committing treason

No he didn't. If you think otherwise, please give details of what exactly he did and why it is legally treasonous.

treason
n noun
1 (also high treason) the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.
2 (petty treason) historical the crime of murdering a master or husband.

colluding with a foreign hostile adversary's attack on our democracy.

collude
n verb come to a secret agreement in order to deceive others; conspire.

Governments (like corporations) always collude; in terms of foreign policy, they do little else. But what is this "foreign hostile adversary"? (a multiply redundant expression, by the way). Russia is in no way hostile to the USA, and the only way in which it is an adversary is that it competes in trade - which is what capitalism enjoins - and sometimes declines to do what the US government orders it to do.

Needless to say, there was no "attack on our democracy". First because there was obviously no "attack", and second because there is obviously no "democracy".

https://www.thenation.com/arti...
https://consortiumnews.com/201...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
https://www.strategic-culture....
https://scholar.princeton.edu/...
yournewswire.com/jimmy-carter-the-u-s-is-completely-subverted-by-oligarchs/

Trump is going to prison.

No, he isn't.

...please invest $ 22.95 for this book.
It is well worth the cost, and - if you understand the logic behind financial bubbles - you will spare plenty of your money in the future.

he right to purchase a good, and thereby own it, is a fundamental aspect of a fair, open and free market.

It's too bad most right wingers are ignorant that the free market doesn't exist and is a myth preached to the stupid masses. The rich have never subscribed to the ideology they preach, your society has never worked how you believe it does.

Testing theories of representative government - shows the rich get whatever policies they want, the rest have no impact. AKA no rule of law for the average person.

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought.

Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

Energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW070215A.htm

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

US distribution of wealth

https://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

How about a list please, a useful list, name of company, data stolen, scripts and cookies to be killed upon a slow smouldering flame. How can you say 400 without having a list of the 400. That 400 players to add to noscript and cookiemonster.

They provide a zipped csv right on their site. Good to see I have even more reason to hate wordpress.

Or the CSV file here

  https://webtransparency.cs.pri...

Here is the list, linked to from the actual article. List of 400

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"Ribbit" - Unknown frog

The page at the first link was updated with a link to their data, complete with a list of all the offending sites that are ranked in the top 10,000 by Alexa.

You are trying to state that the etymology of the word fascism is it's definition, which is inaccurate.

Of course, it is inaccurate to define terms by the mere etymology. And yet, that's exactly what you did, when you define "Antifa" as simply "anti-Fascist" — a statement I ridiculed so successfully.

Maybe, in time, there will be a separation of nonviolent anti-fascists

It is not just their violence (the forcible suppression of opposition), that makes them pro-Fascism. They are all, to a man, collectivist and see nothing wrong in expansion of government and its ever wider control of industry and commerce. They may not be nationalistic, but this part of the definition you offered is not, actually, present in the dictionary one.

And that is, what various people in this thread have been telling you and others. "Antifa", contrary to the word's etymology, means "Fascists".

If you do it once they'll use that trick to get what they want every time.

They've been doing that since forever you and americans don't seem very informed on this issue. You guys are up to your ass in free market fairy tales down there.

Elites respond to Crisis of democracy - aka double down and propaganda and misinformation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYFxtNgOeiI

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

The Citibank memo

Citigroup memo

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU56Rv0OXM

https://vimeo.com/39566117

US distribution of wealth

https://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

So, basically, reducing regulations only matter when it affects large Republican donors?

Yes. More generally, one's legislative agenda serves only those who have contributed to one's election and future re-elections.

This also works in the reverse order, those who do not donate receive lots of regulatory attention. Remember pre-1996 Microsoft saying they didn't see a need to lobby? Well, after Janet Reno finished with them, they do not do that anymore.

Why do so many people (other than the 1% expecting their tax cuts) continually vote against their own best interests?

Because that's the way the elites have set it up, education is ignorance and science on human reasoning shows human reasoning is much poorer than thought. These links will take a while to digest.

Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

Education as ignorance

Education as ignorance

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU56Rv0OXM

https://vimeo.com/39566117

Rd wolf on economics

http://www.rdwolff.com/

"Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role."

Crisis of democracy

Crisis of democracy - PDF

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-D... ">Crisis of democracy - BOOK

Education as ignorance

Education as ignorance

Overthrowing other peoples governments

Overthrowing other peoples governments, the master list

Wikileaks on TTIP/TPP/ETC

Wikileaks

Energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW070215A.htm

Interference in other states when the rich/corporations dont get their way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxp_wgFWQo&feature=youtu.be&list=PLKR2GeygdHomOZeVKx3P0fqH58T3VghOj&t=724

Education as ignorance

Manufacturing consent (book)

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499/

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Democracy Inc

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed- Inverted-Totalitarianism/dp/069114589X

From war is a racket:

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."[p. 10]

"War is a racket. ...It is

I bet both sides have paid almost as much to their Attorneys, staff, legal fees, investigations, etc. as either stand to get from the lawsuit.

I wouldn't be surprised if the legal costs for both sides were four times higher than the potential damages for infringement. If we exclude patents on chemicals and pharmaceuticals, the overall cost of patent litigation to the defendant was around four times the overall profit from patent licensing in 1999, and rising (see p. 15 of the reference below). (I know design patents are different, but this is the most relevant study I know of.)

Bessen, James & Meurer, Michael J. (2008) Patent failure

we would learn that the water is slightly above the freezing point.

The freezing point of seawater is around minus2degC (not sure what that is in the US measure - there are conversion programs somewhere if you want to make a conversion to that system).

I bet if we dropped some sensors in the water,

... which, utterly astonishingly, is exactly how this polynya was discovered. "SOCCOM float surfaces inside rare Antarctic sea ice opening"

This is a recurrent feature of the Antarctic sea ice. It's tied to undersea features that well explain it's existence and location.

Polynyas are regions of open water that occur in the Arctic and Southern Oceans where youâ(TM)d expect to see ice, typically around coastlines that experience fierce wintertime winds. The Weddell polynya is unusual in that it occurs far offshore, in a shallow water region known as the Maud Rise. It was first spotted in the winter of 1974, when a hole roughly the size of Oregon emerged in the Antarctic sea ice in the dead of winter. The polynia cropped up again for the next two winters, before going dormant for decadesâ"although low sea ice concentrations persisted in the region.

Like all polynyas, it has considerable effects on both air temperatures and sea water temperatures in its area and wherever the cooled sea water goes to.

"This comes across as preemptively shouting down dissent, rather than engaging"

There's not much to engage, the business class preaches free market for the masses but secretly loves state subsidy.

Energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW070215A.htm

Science on reasoning, your brain does not see the world as it is, see the science:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

Testing theories of representative government

Testing theories of representative government

US distribution of wealth

https://imgur.com/a/FShfb

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

"This desire for binary thinking, us or them, is something I believe holds us back as sentient beings."

I make a case that "binary thinking" is an aspect of population response to stress. In the stone age, stress was almost always the result of lower productivity of the local ecosystem. I.e., they ran out of food. The solution that always worked was to kill (or try to kill) neighbors. Typically these episodes happened once or twice a generation. Human psychology was strongly selected for these traits.

The default state of human groups is not engaged in wars with neighbors. Wars are a way to get killed. Unless the alternative (such as starvation) is worse, groups of people don't engage in wars, such psychological traits were not select. What happens is a behavioral switch is flipped by hard times or the prospect of hard times. When flipped, xenophobic memes spread in the group, eventually synching up the warriors of the tribe for a do or die attack on neighbors.

If an economically stressed population is an explanation for the spread of the anti vaccination memes, then, in the long run, reducing the stress on the population would reduce the opposition to vacinations. It's also understandable why such memes would be persistant. In this state, people are being irrational, driven by genes that are (in effect) rational--at least they were in the stone age.

Even understanding what is going on doesn't help me propose a solution.

"Far more than measles does."

It turned out that measles is worse than people thought.

https://www.princeton.edu/news...

What about Senate seats?

Impacted by turnout reduction due to gerrymandering, and voter restrictions.

Governorships?

Add above, plus off-year elections for more manipulation.

State legislatures?

You mean the groups doing the gerrymandering in all but a handful of states?

Even if you leave out the fact that Democrat-controlled states gerrymander Congressional districts just as much as Republican-controlled ones (as you have conveniently done),

That's actually not true.

I get it, you want to believe it is true, despite the facts not supporting it. However, even the most strident defenders have to admit that Republicans have obviously done it in more states. But so what if it were true? That means nothing, it is still immoral and a betrayal of principles.

Why don't you just get past your partisan biases? All they're doing is causing you to lie.

that doesn't explain why the Ds have been getting their asses kicked over and over in all the races I mention above.

Your premise is also flawed. Check out the elections.

But yes, voter discrimination and the effects of gerrymandering to depress turnout do have an impact.

Just because you disagree with something, it is not fascist.

Very, very true...

I suggest to google, what Fascist means.

Good idea!

In a fascist health care system only the super rich had healthcare

Please, cite the source(s) you found, that support this statement.

You can't. Because you are wrong — fantastically, spectacularly wrong. "Fascism" means just this:

a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government

See? Not a mention of "health care". But if we search the more elaborate Wikipedia article, we'll find, that it was the Fascists, who were worrying about "health of the nation". Hitler — the most famous among Fascists — even put that on his Programme

21. The State must ensure that the nation's health standards are raised [...]

And, upon coming to power, followed up on that by expanding Bismark's "Reich Insurance Act" to cover all Germans at the government's expense (single-payer much?). It sucked — because folks (volks) started going to a doctor for the slightest of reasons, greatly increasing their workloads and lines. (And, of course, there were "Death Panels".)

Whether "Universal" — a dog-whistle for government-provided — health care is a good thing or not, it is not Fascist to be against it. Quite the opposite, indeed.

" back before crony-capitalism passed the tipping-point and jumped the shark"

Ahh yes "That's not really real free market capitalism" argument. Sorry to tell you there crony capitalism doesn't exist because that's the way capitalism has always worked, the historical evidence is overwhelming. That rule of law can not exist within capitalism. Everytime copyright came up for review to protect the publics right it was expanded over 200 years long before you were even born.

Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. See the manufacturing consent videos when you get the time.

Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Education as ignorance

Energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW070215A.htm

Interference in other states when the rich/corporations dont get their way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxp_wgFWQo&feature=youtu.be&list=PLKR2GeygdHomOZeVKx3P0fqH58T3VghOj&t=724

Markets are often delusional. Tesla has yet to turn a profit, claiming growth - yet every other firm manages to grow while it is profitable. Tesla has significant governance issues, so it isn't being managed well at all.