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Yup.. running them now on RH 6.1. All I can say is the XF4 is damn fast.. And KDE2 beta as well.. enjoy.. :)

Here is the main ftp site and a mirror that has it. - Red Hat's FTP Site With ISOs. - Metalabs 6.2 Mirror With ISOs.

Yes, this is real, I infact sent a submission to ./'s team of submission monkeys with aibo inplants that enable them to sort through the masses of articles... or not. :) Anyways, yes, its real, Here is the main ftp site and a mirror that has it. - Red Hat's FTP Site - Metalabs Mirror for the files, I ust burned a copy of it for mysel, and even installed it, the SPARC version, and it works great. Good Luck.

Here is the main ftp site and a mirror that has it. - Red Hat's FTP Site - Metalabs Mirror

The package list is at www.redhat.com/commerce/package_list.html .

XFree86 4.0 is not ready for prime time.
If you want RPMs nevertheless, get them
here.

We're not including XFree86 4.0 because it's not ready.
It doesn't compile at all on sparc (we're currently working on fixing this), doesn't compile out of the box on alpha (we've already fixed that), doesn't have all the drivers 3.3.x used to have (fixing that is a LOT of work), it doesn't have a working configuration tool yet (XFree86 -configure is a start, but it won't let you configure international keyboards and such), and there are a bit too many bugs for a stable release even in the drivers that are there.

In short, it's not even ready for Raw Hide.
I have put up RPMs at
http://people.redhat.com/bero/experimen tal though, for those who have x86es and don't like waiting.

Some of the posts here suggests that NT does not protect the apps from the kernel(which it does, kernel runs in ring0, while apps or userland programs runs in ring3)

rant_mode=on

When Explorer (and I'm not talking Internet Exploder, by the way) crashes (for whatever reason) can I get out of the GUI, kill it and restart it as a process, and then go humming along my merry way (and believe me, the 3-finger salute to get to Task Manger is a pretty lame way to try to kill apps, especially when your keyboard locks)? &nbsp Can I switch to another terminal or console and manage my processes independent of the GUI? &nbsp Is not the GUI pretty much tied up in the kernel? &nbsp Can I install any app without having to reboot the box? &nbsp Why can't the registry be reinitialized in NT?

When Microsoft produces a stable, cost-effective, highly manageable, highly customizable network operating system, with a guaranteed high % uptime, that I can telnet into to manage it rather than having to go out and buy some fscking 3rd party product to connect to it remotely, -ie.- a box that I can stick in the corner that stays up without having to babysit the damn thing, then *I* will be the first one to push it. &nbsp Otherwise, though I'm stuck managing it at work, it won't be my choice at home.

As a microsoft trainer, cisco trainer and linux trainer I can only say: get a life -

Did you take the Linux certification courses like that given by Red Hat or are you saying this to sound neutral? &nbsp Believe me, those who have had to work with Microsoft's networking products for years and who suddenly discover other OSes and how they handle networking, really do eventually see the light after awhile. &nbsp We're not making this stuff up. &nbsp Some consider it a challenge to manage whereas I consider it a waste of my time. &nbsp Why should I have to pull my hair out and see my staff waste so much of their precious time trying to figure out MS's so-called undocumented features?

And you yourself use the flame-baiting "M$" in your own Subject line!

Anyway, rant_mode=off

Point and click FTP?
What a concept.
Maybe someone could implement it in a web browser...

If we're so antagonistic about KDE, why are we providing daily builds of KDE 2.0 RPMs?

X-Google: more evil than satan himself

since no money is changing hands

Then WTF is Red Hat, which sells boxed GNU/Linux distributions that contain GCC? A charity?

Yes, money is changing hands (leaving Microsoft's for free competition). If there were no GNU/Linux, they'd be making more money on NT.

For more info on writing RPM spec files, see the RPM HOWTO.

Summary: An improved FTP client.
Name: ncftp
Version: 3.0beta21
Release: 3
Prefix: %{_prefix}
Copyright: Distributable
Group: Applications/Internet
Source0: ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/3.0BETA/ncftp-%{version} -src.tar.gz
Patch0: ncftp-3.0beta21-y2k.patch
BuildRoot: /var/tmp/%{name}-root

%description
Ncftp is an improved FTP client. Ncftp's improvements include support for command line editing, command histories, recursive gets, automatic anonymous logins and more.

Install ncftp if you use FTP to transfer files and you'd like to try some of ncftp's additional features.

%prep
%setup -q
%patch0 -p1 -b .y2k

%build
%configure --enable-signals
make

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/{bin,man/man1}

make prefix=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr install

mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/X11/applnk/Internet
cat > $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc/X11/applnk/Internet/ncftp.desk top [Desktop Entry]
Name=NcFTP
Comment=NcFTP - a text mode FTP client
Icon=ftp.xpm
Exec=ncftp
Type=Application
Terminal=1
EOF

%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

%files
%defattr(-,root,root)
%doc *README WHATSNEW-3.0 LICENSE.txt doc
%config(missingok) /etc/X11/applnk/Internet/ncftp.desktop
/usr/bin/ncftp
/usr/bin/ncftpget
/usr/bin/ncftpput
/usr/bin/ncftpbatch
/usr/bin/ncftpls
/usr/bin/ncftpbookmarks
/usr/man/man1/ncftp.1*
/usr/man/man1/ncftpget.1*
/usr/man/man1/ncftpput.1*
/usr/man/man1/ncftpbatch.1*
/usr/man/man1/ncftpls.1*
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Microsoft spel chekar vor sail, worgs grate !!

Check http://www.redhat.com/apps/co mmunity/linux_assoc.html and you will see that Red Hat supports the LPI. Check http://www.lpi.org/a-advisory.html and you will see that Red Hat has a representative on the Advisory Council. Red Hat is not currently listed by LPI as a Sponsor on their web site, but that seems like nitpicking. Certainly Red Hat wouldn't waste time or money placing someone on the Advisory Council of a program they don't "support."

The RHCE was in planning long before the LPI got started. I know, because I was party to some of the very early talks about the RHCE and Red Hat's consulting partners program, back around 1997 or so. This is not a matter of Red Hat trying to "bully" the rest of the community, it is simply the continuation of a process that had been in the works for a long time.

Whether or not Red Hat chooses to continue offering the RHCE or merge it into the LPIC process is pretty much up to Red Hat. They have invested a significant amount of resources in developing their own program, and it makes very little sense - especially to a publically-traded company - to just completely drop what they were doing for the sake of adopting LPIC.

If Red Hat wants to continue offering their own program, it is certainly their prerogative to do so. But it seems pretty clear to me that Red Hat is also interested in what the rest of the community thinks about more general and less Red Hat-specific certification.

This is reminiscent of the bogus "Red Hat doesn't support the LSB" arguments that were flying here about a month ago. Whether or not you speak for one of Red Hat's competitors, it makes your point look a lot more solid if you do a bit of basic research first.

Call me silly, but I count six places to take the courses on RedHat's training locations page, three on the west coast, the NC headquarters, England, and Germany. Then going to their training core page, it seems that it's $2498 for a five-day course and certification. Then there's their exam-only page which alleges $749 for well-experienced people. But that one seems to only have NC and England with dates scheduled. Or are RedHat's pages somehow lieing? I haven't gone through their test, so I could be wrong...

Then there is the Linux International group's attempt at certification. That would be a more vendor-neutral way to go, when they settle on everything. I know the last place I worked sent people on $2500-5000 3-5 day courses in MSCE matters, and those were only for one or two of the tests, not the whole MSCE. Of course, being a corporation, they only sent the morons to those classes. ;)

Call me silly, but I count six places to take the courses on RedHat's training locations page, three on the west coast, the NC headquarters, England, and Germany. Then going to their training core page, it seems that it's $2498 for a five-day course and certification. Then there's their exam-only page which alleges $749 for well-experienced people. But that one seems to only have NC and England with dates scheduled. Or are RedHat's pages somehow lieing? I haven't gone through their test, so I could be wrong...

Then there is the Linux International group's attempt at certification. That would be a more vendor-neutral way to go, when they settle on everything. I know the last place I worked sent people on $2500-5000 3-5 day courses in MSCE matters, and those were only for one or two of the tests, not the whole MSCE. Of course, being a corporation, they only sent the morons to those classes. ;)

Call me silly, but I count six places to take the courses on RedHat's training locations page, three on the west coast, the NC headquarters, England, and Germany. Then going to their training core page, it seems that it's $2498 for a five-day course and certification. Then there's their exam-only page which alleges $749 for well-experienced people. But that one seems to only have NC and England with dates scheduled. Or are RedHat's pages somehow lieing? I haven't gone through their test, so I could be wrong...

Then there is the Linux International group's attempt at certification. That would be a more vendor-neutral way to go, when they settle on everything. I know the last place I worked sent people on $2500-5000 3-5 day courses in MSCE matters, and those were only for one or two of the tests, not the whole MSCE. Of course, being a corporation, they only sent the morons to those classes. ;)

As a guy who just signed up for the week long RHCE 300 training and exam...I must say someone misquoted that article big time.

The correct price I paid for the RHCE is $2498 as seen HERE

Or you can just take the exam part for $750

I'm sure the airfare adds to the cost buy this is directly from Red Hat Training info

Price:
The special introductory bundle price for this five-day course is $2,498 ($2099 for the training + $399 for the Certification Lab Exam, £1,599 in the UK).
Duration:
5 days
Training Start Time: 9:00 a.m.
Training End Time: 4:30-5:00PM (depending on class progress)

Training is also available through Global Knowledge.

The only thing that keeps me from getting this certification is the money, if I look at the list of what is thaught, I think 80% of Slashdotreaders can pass it without ever looking at a book.
Well, maybe learn how an rpm works, if you're used to ports or debs, for the rest is pretty standard Unix sysadmin stuff on a x86 arch, if you ask me.

If you're using Red Hat Linux or something similar, you don't even need to recompile. There are daily CVS snapshots available from
http://people.redhat.com/bero/experimen tal.

I don't quite see this "unanimous standardization" that you are referring to. Redhat and TurboLinux both offer Gnome as the default desktop. Mandrake, OpenLinux, and Corel Linux offer KDE as the default. Most distributions offer both as desktop choices.

Like it or not, while the Linux community is doing the parallel development thing, in the Linux industry, the race is pretty much over.

Far from it. I can name 3 companies devoting many manhours and cash to Gnome development: RHAD Labs, Eazel, and Helix Code. Companies such as MandrakeSoft and Corel are funding KDE development. The race, if anything, is just beginning to get interesting...

Yeah, I know about Eazel. Judging by the amount of hype they've generated, all I can say about them is: show me the code.

okay:

here is some of it.
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I don't quite see this "unanimous standardization" that you are referring to. Redhat and TurboLinux both offer Gnome as the default desktop. Mandrake, OpenLinux, and Corel Linux offer KDE as the default. Most distributions offer both as desktop choices.

Like it or not, while the Linux community is doing the parallel development thing, in the Linux industry, the race is pretty much over.

Far from it. I can name 3 companies devoting many manhours and cash to Gnome development: RHAD Labs, Eazel, and Helix Code. Companies such as MandrakeSoft and Corel are funding KDE development. The race, if anything, is just beginning to get interesting...

Yeah, I know about Eazel. Judging by the amount of hype they've generated, all I can say about them is: show me the code.

okay:

here is some of it.
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Your prediction will most certainly fail. Watch and see. Perhaps what you are overlooking is that different users prefer different things. I will grant you that KDE is more advanced than Gnome in some areas, primarly in the number of applications they have available. However, many developers prefer hacking in the Gnome environment much better than that KDE environment. And Gnome is doing things now that KDE can't do or hasn't yet. Both environments have their strengths. I can also think of at least 3 companies that are putting extensive amounts of money and manhours into improving Gnome (RHAD Labs, Eazel, and Helix Code). These companies aren't going to just drop their work on Gnome once KDE 2 comes out. You also say that KDE "looks" better. Let me remind you that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally find KDE to be hideous compared to Gnome. This is not a bash-KDE comment. Honestly, I love what KDE is doing. I keep up with the KDE development news, love looking at new screenshots, reading about KOffice and other such projects, and wish them all the luck. And I think the competition between Gnome and KDE is healthy. Neither community is going away anytime soon. I can assure you of that.
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I really can't agree with this entirely. Yes, I think that RMS is a bit radical. However, I also think that there absolutely must be someone out there who takes the stances that RMS does on issues.

Free (as in speech) software is quietly coming under seige, in my opinion. For example, you have Red Hat. These guys have a firm commitment that all the software they work on be released in a completely free way. At the same time, they just started shipping their "enterprise" version of Linux, which is basically the OS with Oracle 8i bundled in and easy to install. So you have one of the most "free" Linux compaines out there shipping a product which is designed to appeal to companies because it includes a massive, proprietary app. This kind of gentle errosion is happening all over the place. Except with people like RMS.

So beyond all of his contributions in terms of coding, I think it's really important that people like RMS are willing to stand up and shout about their ideals, so that we don't all forget the mindset that brought us so far. We need to be careful not to loose site of these things as the business presence rushes in.

"Flipping over backwards" is not typical of overloaded airplanes. The most common thing is to simply not be able to climb out of ground effect. This is most common in hotter, more humid, and higher altitude environments than the pilots are used to, as each of these factors reduces the density of the air; reducing the density of the air then reduces thrust and lift capacity at the same time.

Taking off tail-heavy is very easy will make the aircraft difficult to control, and may cause a stall, particularly at low speed. However, it is more likely to cause a stall at approach to landing, as most aircraft store lots or all of their fuel in the wings, and as they use up fuel their center of gravity shifts slowly backwards. While the horizontal stabilizer ("tailwing") has sufficient effectiveness to prevent at stall at cruise speed, the airplane will be more likely to stall when it slows down for approach to landing, and will be hard to control in any case. Fortunately, certified aircraft generally have significant margin of error.

Finally, I strongly doubt that the fat man you saw put your plane in danger. The crew will feel no compunction about asking folks to move around whenever there is a weight and balance problem; I've been on quite a few flights when this has happened. In this case, he might have been undercounted, but not completely ignored for W&B calculations. There is an "FAA standard passenger" that can be used for these calculations so that they do not have to ask you to stand on a scale, and at a minimum it is likely that he had been accounted in this manner. If they were very close to the W&B envelope, they would have known it and would likely have re-run their calculations.

Folks interested in reading some of the best technical writing ever created and in learning more about the theory of flight should read Stick and Rudder by Wolfgang Langeweische. Only beware, as aviation is an addictive persuit, and you might get hooked. :-)

PPSEL (Private Pilot, Single-Engine Land); Experimental Pulsar N456LT

First, this is not a web-only service. We do like to provide web interfaces to as much as possible, but we do realize that for some things, program compliation and testing included, nothing can substitute for shell access.

A lot of people are asking about other hardware architectures and OS's. For now, the Compile Farm is i386 based, and contains several Linux distributions and FreeBSD. This does not mean that we have ruled out other possibilities. This is just another step in what we hope can be an expanding feature set for Open Source developers on SourceForge.

There is a lot of setup involved in something like this Compile Farm, not the least of which is having thousands of skilled Open Source developers with shell accounts on a set of boxes. We're attempting to keep things as secure as possible while also offering enough features to make this thing useful. One reason for the limited number of distributions/architectures/OS's now is the limitation of variables in a very complex system. Hopefully, we can work out the kinks in this system soon so that it can become a valuable resource to developers who might not otherwise have the capability of getting their hands on so many different machines.

Please be patient as we test this new system. We're definately open to criticism, but please also be constructive with it so that we can continue to improve these services. Thanks to all of the SourceForge users who have contributed patches, criticism, and helpful suggestions. Every day my confidence in the Open Source model increases...

Linux lacks the industry standard word processor - Microsoft Word, and spreadsheet - Microsoft Excel
hmmm, again, these are propriety items, NOT industry standard.

We cannot produce a coherent marketing story for Linux.
Well, I'll give you a link here

The problem is the "Linux Zealots".....
and what about MS zealots that think propriety software is an industry standard?

Our software company has significant Market share in its chosen niche (some would say too much share).
This is a dead giveaway that you, obviously, work for M$.

Here at Queensland University of Technology (BNE - AUS), they use Linux (mainly Redhat 6.0) a hell of a lot in the IT Labs. For all the network admin, management, comparative network systems, etc.. subjects, RH6.0 is used. They sell it in the Computer Shop and there are numerous books (mainly rubbish Unleashed ones) in the bookstore.

For the Operating Systems subject, it is split between Unix (SysVR4 - redhat) and NT4. All this in 13 weeks (ouch, it used to just be the unix in all that time!). In that we cover csh, shell scripting in sh/bash, i/o, pipes, memory management, etc...
For projects / assignments, we have to write a C parser for unix, and for NT, a basic device driver. we haven't been given the specs for the VxD as of yet however.

In the previous subject - Computer Architecture - we had to write a mouse driver (for DOS of course) using Assembler, now wasn't that one fun boys and girls!


My $0.02
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I have also wanted to create my own distribution for some time now. every distribution i've seen is either lacking something i want/need or doesn't give me enough control over how and what it installs. Slackware comes the closest to providing the kind of control i am interested in; perhaps the best plan is to build on Slackware.

I think the best use for a custom distribution is in a situation where you envision a large scale rollout, for example when you are going to upgrade or install Linux machines for everyone in your office. In this case, the main advantage would be that you can do all the customizations in advance (non-standard file locations, standardize on applications, customize NFS and NIS, etc). RedHat provides this with their KickStart option, but it's still installing the RedHat distribution, for better or worse.

My ideal distribution: A custom kernel and a bunch of well-written and well-thought-out Makefiles. It would handle fresh installs as well as upgrades (of the system and of individual packages). It could also possibly allow you to install different kernels -- Hurd anyone? With severla binaries for GCC (Linux, Hurd, FreeBSD, etc) and the preferred kernel, and source for everything, the same install media could handle *BSD, Hurd, or Linux (if you choose Hurd, rather than Linux, for example, the install procedure would compile the packages from the included source using the correct GCC, otherwise it would install the precompiled Linux binaries).
My mind is a mind that I have come to know,

Although it smacks of corporate greediness, and it is apparent that Linux developers who work for free can't join the members list, why can't the corporate Linux companies, such as Red Hat, Caldera or VA Linux systems join, and make their copies of the specifications available to developers. There may be copyright issues, but if the USB developers work "for" one of these companies, then surely there is no problem. The end-result would still be GPLed, and available to all, it's just a nominal shift in who you are working for.

Linux has a number of high-profile companies now, and it's in their interests to ensure the best hardware compatibility for their distributions. $2500 is a small price to pay for that from their point of view, surely.

-anil-

http://www .redhat.com/support/docs/gotchas/6.1/gotchas-6.1-6 .html#ss6.24

This is what you guys are looking for...

Oh-my-gawd even the Germans have one.

For those who were misled by other posts here, yes, it is RealServer *and* RealPlayer 7.

Ahh, another example of why stoplists don't work, especially on something as nebulous as the Internet.

My new iMac came with a web blocking package, so I decided to see how it works. I don't recall the name of the package, but they do it the right way -- there is a list of "approved" sites, and the person in control (parent, teacher, etc.) can add sites.

The software blocked RedHat, for example, but it was trivial to go in and say, "Naw, it's ok for my kids to go there" and add it to the "ok" list.

Interestingly, Dav Pilkey is on the default "ok" list. So apparently being dangerously subversive isn't enough to prevent approval.....

Linux is not hard to install at all. Many of the latest versions now include graphic installers to walk you through it step by step. Some of the ones that come to mind are Redhat and Mandrake. It will most likely run fine on your Compaq. To be sure you can check out the hardware section on Linux.com. Linuxnewbie.org helped me quite a bit in getting it installed and configured correctly.

Consider also RedHat, which has been around for a much shorter period of time. Their Bug reporting system reports a total of about 1640 new, reopened, and assigned bugs with 140 bugs new this week. If Redhat had the same user base as windows, their bug system would likely report similar numbers.

Time and experience with the new OS will be the true test of its stability. Just think of how the bug counts will grow once it's been released to the rampaging mobs!

Consider also RedHat, which has been around for a much shorter period of time. Their Bug reporting system reports a total of about 1640 new, reopened, and assigned bugs with 140 bugs new this week. If Redhat had the same user base as windows, their bug system would likely report similar numbers.

Time and experience with the new OS will be the true test of its stability. Just think of how the bug counts will grow once it's been released to the rampaging mobs!

Have you checked out freshmeat to search for any graphing tools? Or even checked out http://www.redhat.com/appindex/MathScienc e/ for opensource or commercial applications? While they certainly aren't free, MatLab or Mathematica should be able to do anything that Excel can and much, much more.

Since nobody else seems to have the full thing posted yet, and it's funny:

Tired of collecting Beanie Babies and Pokemon cards?

Christopher Robin called last night complaining about the lack of collectibles pertaining to the famous "Pooh" show. Eeyore, of course, said,
"I dooon't knooow aboouuut this".... But what does Eeyore know anyway?

The result:

PIGLET

This is no ordinary pig! Stand back folks, he's large and live and ready to rumble. This pig is knocking back CPU loads of 99 whilst having tea and crumpets with Pooh Bear. This bad boy eats Lizards for breakfast and spits out kernel patches. Approach with caution, he could be dangerous!

PIGLET: Your once in a lifetime chance to have this rare collection!

This is a limited time offer, when we run out of bits, they'll be gone forever. Don't miss out folks, the Internet lines are lighting up, they're going like hotcakes, and we can't guarantee availability on this item for very long! Similar items we have provided in the past are now going for over a ONE MILLION percent gain on the original price tag of $0.

PIGLET includes the following new features:

- A new and improved Anaconda [tm] installer
- Partitionless installs
- Improved X Configuration
- Additional GUI Partitioning tool
- Software RAID Configuration in Kickstart Installations
- RAID upgrades
- ATAPI Zip and Jaz Drive Recognition
- Rescue Disk Improvements
- It works!
- Rescue via the installation CD
- Pico on rescue disk
- mtools on rescue disk
- Kernel 2.2.15
- Enhanced Software RAID
- P III Enhancements
- New web based High Availability Configuration Utility
- Kerberos Integration
- New Window Managers
- New desktop backgrounds and themes
- Docbook tools
- Standard Samba mounts in /etc/fstab
- Smaller minimal install
- Separate client/server packages for servers:

PIGLET, pick up this rare find at:

ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat-6.2beta/

Or at a mirror near you! A list of Red Hat ftp mirrors can be had via your web browser of choice at:

http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.ht ml

PIGLET is available now for Intel, Sparc and Alpha architectures. PIGLET is ONLY available through the Internet, and ONLY for a limited time!. This is a beta release of Red Hat Linux, and we don't encourage using this for mission critical applications. However, like most Red Hat beta collectibles, it is very usable for:

1) Testing those new holographic storage devices
2) Installing on all of the machines in your favorite lab
3) Seeing what that "Linux thing" is really all about
4) Preparing your thesis on "Works in progress"

We have created piglet-list for discussion of this beta release. To subscribe, merely send a message to piglet-list-request@redhat.com with the code word "subscribe" in the subject line, respond to the confirmation message request, and enjoy hours upon hours of entertaining and useful messages from hackers trying to make this thing fall down go *BOOM*...

(With a special thanks to home shopping channels everywhere!)

I can indeed confirm that there has been fixes to the installer.

The installer in 6.1 was flickering terribly because the installer used some video mode that was terribly unstable with my monitor (I am not talking regular 60hz flicker here, I am talking badly unstable)

Being the nice fellow I am. I posted a bugreport on bugzilla with the full details of my relevant hardware and not a long time ago I received a nice email saying the bug was fixed :-)

The reason I am mentioning this because some people can obviously only whine about things like these instead of taking their time to file a proper bug report.

Keep up the good work RedHat!

Actually it's been out for a while. It has XFree86 3.3.6, all the latest Apache, Window Maker and KDE stuff. I found it at:
Rawhide

Enjoy
JediLuke

I assure you, I wasn't trolling; I didn't make up a weekend of agony. If you can tell me how I could have gotten NT to boot again, I'd love to hear it. The lilo prompt never appears, I just get a screen of static on boot up.

I actually did manage to restore NT from my rescue disks, but it would keep blue screening at the logon prompt. If it doesn't work once, try again: I tried the rescue disk procedure again, and this time, it would blue screen even before the logon prompt appears. As I mentioned in another post, I'm actually using ez-drive as well, so it was probably a combination of ez-drive and windows NT that made things go bad, although somebody on a newsgroup had told me that it would work with such a combination.

I read the redhat faq (4.16), which says specifically to install lilo on the boot partition and not on the mbr if NT is present. I thought it would be reasonable to assume that the installer would detect the presence of NT and do the right thing (the right thing defined as what redhat specifies in its own FAQ). -I decided not to go with the custom installation the first time because I wasn't familiar with how the partitions had to be set up.

The point here being that the Redhat installer is too stupid to do something that Redhat instructs in its own FAQ, with very destructive results (at least for a Linux newbie like me).

P.S And yes, Outlook and IE are much better than Netscape - I think this is pretty apparent to anyone who actually makes an objective comparison.

Main Menu
/cvs/gnome/ gtkhtml/ AUTHORS

1 Based on the KHTMLW widget from KDE 1.x by:
2
3 Torben Weis
4 Josip A. Gracin
5 Martin Jones
[...]

actually this is the best place to start.


Why? The primary recommendation of that link is to go out and buy the book I linked.

Would you prefer a Fatbrain link instead?

1. Firstly, it wasn't an "extra $100."

   Dell was likely paying MSFT substantially less than $100 in return for buying a whole pile of copies of Win9x. Likely something more like $50. Or perhaps even less than that for Huge Quantity Discounts as well as Exclusively Installing Win9x So As To Block Out Alternatives.

2. Secondly, some of the amount that more likely resembles $50 is likely going to LinuxCare.

   I'd say the more the merrier.

3. As for the "3 months of tech support," I suggest that you take a look at Red Hat Linux Versions.

   The only thing you get support on is installation support.

   If you bought a system where Linux was preinstalled, then you don't need installation support.

Yahoo has a story about Red Hat's involvement with embedded Linux applications. This appears to be a rehash of the Cygnus acquisition a few months ago, but still interesting reading. Apparently what makes this news is that Red Hat is putting together some new tools for developers, aimed at x86 and PowerPC targets.

It is not just l10n that indian languages need. But good i10n too. Almost all the indian scripts fall under the category of complex scripts. That means, for example, if you want to display a unicode document for, say Hindi, a simple unicode font will not suffice. The unicode text needs to converted into a set of ligature glyphs based on a complex set of formating rules. As of date there is no API that can do this formating for Linux. Microsoft has the Uniscribe API for doing such tasks which will be available for Windows 2000.

While there are few efforts to bring similar tools into Linux world, one significant effort that needs support is the Pango library.
(
http://people.redhat.com/otaylor/pango).

Unless there is a good framework that supports these complex requirements in Indian scripts localisation would not be a possibility.

-Siva.

actually this is the best place to start.

I thought there was a quicktime-linux for quite a long time already. Look
here to download it. Has anybody tried it yet?