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Somehow I got the last link wrong. This should be the correct one.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...

My understanding is that North Sea gas is fine for decades, which is about as much as anyone searches for today. Considering the need for alternative sources, Norway and Scotland will have plenty of resources for new wells even if they are uneconomical in the immediate pricing situation. EU grants will come very quickly should they be needed.

Norway is not in the EU and Scotland will soon not be in the EU either. The UK currently is dismantling most of its oil rigs. Also, one reason why Russia has been pulling ahead in the segment is because they have been willing to fund most of their projects on their own dime.

Also, with regards to the Netherlands.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog...

Natural gas production from the Groningen field has now roughly halved over the last three years, and will not return to previous levels. This latest decision, therefore, truly marks the end of an era for the Dutch and for Europe more broadly. (2016)

Netherlands natural gas production in Bcm.
https://ycharts.com/indicators...

Finally.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Production is set for 21.6 billion cubic meters (bcm) this year, already down from a peak of 53.8 bcm in 2013, following a series of cuts as decades of extraction have led to dozens of earthquakes each year, damaging thousands of homes and buildings.

“Our intention is (to cut production) to get towards 12 bcm in the coming four or five years, and to zero at the end of the coming decade,” Prime Minister Mark Rutte told a press conference. (2018)

Nord Stream 2 isn't needed in any meaningful way right now on merits of "today", as Nord Stream 1 is underutilized.

https://www.nord-stream.com/pr...

"In 2017, the Nord Stream Pipeline delivered 51 billion cubic metres (bcm) of natural gas to consumers in the European Union. This means the pipeline system operated at 93 per cent of its annual design capacity of 55 bcm."

That's 93 per cent capacity last year. Plus given the ramp up trends it should have reached full capacity this year.

As for US supplying gas, most of the shale producers have wells for "30 years of production". Why not more? Because they would have to disclose this if it was so, which automatically makes them target for hostile takeover. Natgas is the by-product of shale, that is getting increasingly captured instead of flared. So US has supplies for at least 30 years, and realistically for far longer period of time. The problem here is costs, because energy expenditures to compress the gas into liquid and transport it are just too high compared to piped gas. You're looking at about 50% price increase for someone like Germany.

Exactly. It would be a lot more expensive. It would also require large liquefaction and regasification facilities to be build. There are plenty of port facilities in Europe but there is a severe shortage of liquefaction facilities in the USA and regasification facilities in Europe. In fact Europe has been investing in ports, storage, and regasification facilities for natural gas over the past decade. However the USA can neither supply that demand nor do it cheaply. In fact the USA has been bickering already that Russia is starting to carve a chunk of the LNG sector themselves via their Yamal LNG liquefaction facilities.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...

My understanding is that North Sea gas is fine for decades, which is about as much as anyone searches for today. Considering the need for alternative sources, Norway and Scotland will have plenty of resources for new wells even if they are uneconomical in the immediate pricing situation. EU grants will come very quickly should they be needed.

Norway is not in the EU and Scotland will soon not be in the EU either. The UK currently is dismantling most of its oil rigs. Also, one reason why Russia has been pulling ahead in the segment is because they have been willing to fund most of their projects on their own dime.

Also, with regards to the Netherlands.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog...

Natural gas production from the Groningen field has now roughly halved over the last three years, and will not return to previous levels. This latest decision, therefore, truly marks the end of an era for the Dutch and for Europe more broadly. (2016)

Netherlands natural gas production in Bcm.
https://ycharts.com/indicators...

Finally.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Production is set for 21.6 billion cubic meters (bcm) this year, already down from a peak of 53.8 bcm in 2013, following a series of cuts as decades of extraction have led to dozens of earthquakes each year, damaging thousands of homes and buildings.

“Our intention is (to cut production) to get towards 12 bcm in the coming four or five years, and to zero at the end of the coming decade,” Prime Minister Mark Rutte told a press conference. (2018)

Nord Stream 2 isn't needed in any meaningful way right now on merits of "today", as Nord Stream 1 is underutilized.

https://www.nord-stream.com/pr...

"In 2017, the Nord Stream Pipeline delivered 51 billion cubic metres (bcm) of natural gas to consumers in the European Union. This means the pipeline system operated at 93 per cent of its annual design capacity of 55 bcm."

That's 93 per cent capacity last year. Plus given the ramp up trends it should have reached full capacity this year.

As for US supplying gas, most of the shale producers have wells for "30 years of production". Why not more? Because they would have to disclose this if it was so, which automatically makes them target for hostile takeover. Natgas is the by-product of shale, that is getting increasingly captured instead of flared. So US has supplies for at least 30 years, and realistically for far longer period of time. The problem here is costs, because energy expenditures to compress the gas into liquid and transport it are just too high compared to piped gas. You're looking at about 50% price increase for someone like Germany.

Exactly. It would be a lot more expensive. It would also require large liquefaction and regasification facilities to be build. There are plenty of port facilities in Europe but there is a severe shortage of liquefaction facilities in the USA and regasification facilities in Europe. In fact Europe has been investing in ports, storage, and regasification facilities for natural gas over the past decade. However the USA can neither supply that demand nor do it cheaply. In fact the USA has been bickering already that Russia is starting to carve a chunk of the LNG sector themselves via their Yamal LNG liquefaction facilities.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...

How would they even know if they got a bid?

https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Sears Holdings Corp Chairman Eddie Lampert has submitted a roughly $4.6 billion takeover bid for the bankrupt U.S. retailer

On the news. They're big enough to do it that way.

In the spirit of fact-checking myself, I found the annual hidden costs of coal to be $345 Billion, which is not just limited to health concerns

Glad I didn't let my earlier statement stand unchallenged

A few things you need to learn...

Citizens United v FEC was to keep "the government from restricting independent expenditures for communications by nonprofit corporations, for-profit corporations, labor unions, and other associations". Not just corporations. But your selective choice of words speaks volumes...

President Obama topped the list of Saudi arms offers, more than any other Administration. Yet you conveniently left him out of your list, skipping from Trump to Bush - why?

California is suing the Federal Government about the border - specifically about their right to control their border, rather than the Federal Government. This is contrary to what you state.

The IRS apologized for targeting conservative groups, because it did. Yes, there were some non-conservative groups targeted, but they were overwhelmingly conservative.

Shall we continue?

A few things you need to learn...

Citizens United v FEC was to keep "the government from restricting independent expenditures for communications by nonprofit corporations, for-profit corporations, labor unions, and other associations". Not just corporations. But your selective choice of words speaks volumes...

President Obama topped the list of Saudi arms offers, more than any other Administration. Yet you conveniently left him out of your list, skipping from Trump to Bush - why?

California is suing the Federal Government about the border - specifically about their right to control their border, rather than the Federal Government. This is contrary to what you state.

The IRS apologized for targeting conservative groups, because it did. Yes, there were some non-conservative groups targeted, but they were overwhelmingly conservative.

Shall we continue?

Story where IRS admitted wrongdoing IN COURT.

You used a lot of hand waving to make your points, including quoting the corrupt Comey. You know its all bullshit and I provided the easiest example of it. You know you lie and I just called you out for it.

Drinkypoo IS A LIAR. He thinks removing your rights, or even killing you to support a narrative to remove rights from people he doesn't like is acceptable. Do not listen to him, he is evil.

Probably much much smaller than a tsunami caused by the cascadia fault quake that we are due to experience any time now.

If it hasn't been updated in the summary yet, here's the correct link to the article.

Ray is right about the drive for impeachment (and wasn't it those very Democrats who were concerned that President Trump wouldn't abide by the election - the exact same thing they seek to do?). It will be a waste of effort (there is nothing illegal or a "high crime" or even misdemeanor suggested - it's just "Orange Man Bad"), and if they can get enough together to pass articles of impeachment - it will go NO WHERE in the Senate.

And your trolling must include the BBC and Reuters. I guess it's a world-wide conspiracyto build a lie that South Africa will expropriate land without compensation? Either that or the SJW snowflake of an AC is hurt that the facts don't support their delicate world-view...

Look at any large, established city's street parking to see the scope of the problem.

Which is what I was referring to when I called it a problem of scale.

Fortunately, someone could make a lot of money by installing chargers, so the problem of scale will solve itself over time. And "over time" is an acceptable pace for this transition.

It's not like we had tens of thousands of gas stations the moment Ford started building cars.

new (arguably dangerous)

Arguably under what possible criteria? We're not talking about a "surprised face" outlet like in your house. We're talking about something like in the picture in this article: https://www.reuters.com/brandf...

The only "live" conductor in the plugs is the low-voltage one used to communicate between the car and the charger, and that (and all the other conductors) are covered by insulators. The conductors that actually supply power are inactive until the car and charger agree on what power to supply to the car. (And technically it's wrong to label the thing on the curb as the "charger". The charger is built into the car. The thing on the curb is supplying voltage to the charger)

Also, there's these things call "Ground Fault Circuit Interrupters" if you believe it's actually possible to get around every other safety feature. While you're probably only familiar with the ones embedded in your kitchen plugs, the technology works at higher voltages.

So what, specifically, is the dangerous thing?

First, the quote in the summary doesn't exist in the linked article, which is about Trump, China and car tariffs, but not about EVs. The actual Reuters article is here.

Second, it's expected that the current subsidies will pretty much all run out by 2020/2021, hence the quote about ending them then. The proposal seems to be to not create new subsidies, more than ending existing ones, but the article isn't exactly clear. Either way, given two years advance notice before they'd run out, I don't think you can call it a "broken promise", when no one in the current administration promised anything of the sort.

Perhaps they'll also kill the (up to) $12 Billion in subsidies to farmers getting hammered by the Administration's own tariffs. Oh, wait ...

Well, seeing that you need a nuclear power program for a modern nuclear weapons program....

So where's the bedwetting over Japan's nuclear power program? All Iran wants is the same nuclear power generation enjoyed by other countries that aren't threatened with total genocide for possessing.

if it's a nuclear program and not working on thorium reactors

You mean the vaporware that no one is building, including nuclear weapon possessing countries like the US, the UK, France and Russia?

LOL! Iran has hundreds of centrifuges deep underground. If they were "peaceful", they would be above ground.

Because they don't want to be bombed by the United Sates or the Israelis, dipshit. Who, again, have both admitted that Iran has no nuclear weapons program. Speaking of Iran, they were in compliance with the NPT before the "Iran deal" (as opposed to the US which has always ignored the disarmament provisions) and remained in compliance with the "Iran deal" after the US pulled out. Dipshit.

If this is a terrorif on iPhones alone there is a much greater need to place friendly justices in the courts.
In targeting Apple the doors to courts will push wide open to protect the $10billion that is at stake.
Other brands of phones and computers are obviously under control of AT&T, samstung, Microsoft, Verizon, U.S. Cellular,
Google as much as Apple does just differently. Samsung makes darn nice hardware but systematically obsoletes that hardware
vastly quicker than the hardware wears out. It is possible to buy a factory new devices and in the first 24 hours after
getting it home recieve the LAST update/upgrade planned for the device. Production can continue for two or three
years but the software clock can begin at introduction not even first customer ship.

Ten percent is a rather big tax... enough to be a disincentive to Apple re their pulling cash back into the US
when it can borrow from itself at 4% or less and not pay %15-38.91+% income repatriation tax.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Dumb, lazy fuck.

...has the EU emissions gone up in 2017: https://www.reuters.com/articl... and are going up even more in 2018? When are they planning on starting?

I didn't write rape, I wrote "sexual assault." There's a reason for that.

Pedantic distinction without a difference.

And authorities only allow you to travel when they've absolutely cleared you from charges. Oh, wait... they do that all the time when people are still under investigation too.

Not if you believe there's merit to the allegations and you're dealing with a foreign national that has made it clear he's about to leave the country. Then they release you from custody but keep your passport.

to Sweden refusing to promise they wont hand Assange over to the United States

Why should they? Have they done that before? Do they normally offer guarantees to such treatment to people that they question?

Do you comment on many subjects at length where you have a comical level of ignorance, or just this one? In 2001, Sweden arrested a couple of men and handed them over to the CIA to be tortured. That by itself makes Assange's fear of extradition a matter of common sense, not paranoia. Since then, Obama launched more prosecutions of whisteblowers than all previous presidents combined, had one tortured for eighteen months before finding her guilty in a kangaroo court. The current Secretary of State is a big fan of torture, and the current head of the CIA is a torturer.

Hell, not only is Assange in the right to want extradition to the US blocked, Sweden is actually required to do so as a signatory to the UN Convention Against Torture, which forbids countries from extraditing to regimes that practice it. Regimes like the United States. But Sweden has ignored that treaty before - thus Assange's more than reasonable request that Sweden go on the record that this really is just about getting him to answer questions about an alleged rape.

Why is Sweden so much more convenient to pull Assange from than the United Kingdom -- where he was let out on bail from December 2011 to June 2012 -- which has a "special relationship" with the UK?

1) See above 2) see recent case where UK courts blocked the extradition of an accused hacker to the United States because of America's brutal prison system. The same prison system that saw Manning tortured and found guilty under unlawful command influence.

Can't even make up your own insult. Sad.

Obviously, it was throwing your BS back in your face. Obviously.

Oh, by the way, you skipped the whole "bail jumping" thing... probably because that act is indefensible.

You think UK police spend millions of pounds on every bail jumping case? Assange has offered to answer questions via video chat or in person if Swedish investigators come to the embassy in London. Sweden has done just that in dozens of other cases since Assange was granted asylum, so neither they nor you have any excuse here. And Assange has offered to give up his asylum and return to Sweden if they promise not to hand him over to the United States. Even if you think Assange is bluffing, Ecuador would no longer have a reason to grant him asylum.

So the allegations are so serious as to swear out an INTERPOL warrant and for the UK to spend millions of pounds keeping Assange under siege, yet Sweden has refused to make a simple promise that would have seen Assange back in their custody in a matter of days. Which tells anyone with two functioning brain cells that this isn't about an alleged rape and never was.

It's good that they mentioned military. Now that's the part of government that will quickly swtich from running on oil to running on sun, wind and water.

It's already in the works.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...

- tax reform, including finally fixing the highest business tax rate in the world

The US had the third highest business taxes worldwide ON PAPER, but anyone not a lying sack of shit (unlike you) knows that's not even remotely close to the actual rate businesses are taxed. I get it, stupid fucking idiots like you can't think passed the 5 second sound bite of your hyper-partisan political fuckery, but the EFFECTIVE TAX RATE is what they actually pay...and it's not the highest at all. https://www.forbes.com/sites/e...

"In any one of these years (2006-2012), at least two-thirds (between 67% and 72%) of all active corporations had zero tax liability after credits."

"The average effective tax rate among the profitable large corporations was 16.1%, under federal tax treatment."

The difference between "top marginal" and "effective" is well known, and only a complete fucking idiot or a pathological liar would keep bringing up this pathetic talking point. Which are you?

In addition to this, the cost of this "tax reform" will add 11.7 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years, after taking into account growth. https://www.reuters.com/articl...

"But those growth rates will not offset the deficits, which will “increase rapidly this year and over the next few years,” then stabilize, resulting in a projected cumulative deficit of $11.7 trillion for 2018-2027, CBO forecast."

Clearly there are no such things as fiscal conservative republicans.

Exactly. And why did the EU emissions RISE in 2017 and is projected to rise in 2018? Apparently the EU doesn't care. https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Did you actually read the article you linked?

https://uk.reuters.com/article/lehman/lehman-trustee-hopes-to-pay-customers-in-full-idUKN1E7780NX20110809

To quote the article:
Regardless of the outcome, however, the brokerage will not be able to make significant payouts on the $47.5 billion in general creditor claims, which face an "inevitable" shortfall, Kobak said.

You mean those organisations that have fully repaid the emergency loans, making the government a significant profit?

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/0...

and especially remember that Lehman Brothers has paid all its debts

https://uk.reuters.com/article...

The decision to fail to support Lehman Brothers was driven by ignorant politicians and caused major problems for no good reason.

Be a man. No, seriously. Anybody remember the secret AI project from Amazon that trained on tens of thousands of resumes? It incorporated how the hired candidates performed inside Amazon and started making recommendations. Except... whenever it saw a woman it immediately rejected the application wholesale. That was an 'oh shit' moment that caused the resume AI project to be cancelled. It proved that male tech candidates contribute more for Amazon. https://www.reuters.com/articl... Do you think that this bot will be any better? How can you trust it? I doubt it could even come close to Amazon's bot in effectiveness as it doesn't have tens of thousands of applications measured against actual hires and internal performance reviews and employee data. This bot is just the resume equivalent of automated SEO.

Where's the opposition? Disasters everywhere and everyone's in a daze. The best we get is gridlock. Actual improvement is *off the table*. Pelosi will guarantee that. Round and round we go! WEEE!

being self employed (30+ years) I am not to concerned with that. But then I can be a real hard nosed boss lol
But for employees yes, I can see that happening. More likely it will be the government/political parties that will be making those kinds of demands.
See the what the lefts socialist utopia of Venezuela is currently doing. How ZTE helps Venezuela create China-style social control Not at the implant level but getting there. Note: Google employees have no problems helping China but the US Nope not in their little puritanical world.

Just my 2 cents ;)

We just want free college and single payer health care. But damn it, no socialism! https://www.reuters.com/invest.... (Scroll to end)

Which is why biting a dog isn't a crime.

A New Hampshire man was arrested for biting a police dog while officers were investigating reports of a shooting in the town of Boscawen, police officials said on Tuesday.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Certainly this is not unique to China or a new practice to recruit from schools for armies around the world. What then is the purpose of this pair of stories, one overrun by trolls, and this one vaguely repeating some of the usual xenophobic fears? One was an accidental honey trap that will allows tracking influence networks on Slashdot, and this one fits into the old tapestry of fear-based propaganda.

I understand the nuances of the world and the diversity of systems. I'm more interested in figuring out the EU courts position on things.

For example, I found this article.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Basically the EU court ruled that France can keep it's horse betting monopoly because it claims it is to prevent gambling problems.

So my question is why can't that apply to mobile payments for Hungary?
Could Hungary not keep it's mobile payment monopoly to prevent financial problems (fraud, theft. terrorism...whatever else it can claim as the general economic interest)

Because surely France could also legislate and regulate an open market of horse gambling in the same way as Hungary can legislate and regulate an open market for mobile payments.

Of course it could just be that France is bigger power and the EU is more timid towards them. Yet, assuming the EU court is trying to be fair, I'm trying to figure out the rule and the difference.

There's also no immigration reform, which Obama ran on in 2008 and talked up for a good chunk of 2009, when democrats had control of the house AND senate.

And, amusingly, so did George Bush, when he had control of both the house and the senate.

(Interestingly, Bush's immigration reform plan was nearly the same as Obama's.)

It's in full swing:

https://www.reuters.com/articl...

https://www.vox.com/policy-and...

https://www.americanbar.org/pu...

Hell, even wikipedia has it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Thank you.

People always want to find a problem with the EU, even though it is actually doing quite well. GP trevc is implying that there is some overlordish Germanic rule of the EU, when quite the opposite is the case. If there is any problem with the EU, then it is that individual member states can slow down or prevent decision making for the entire bloc to a large extent. Especially when member states start "having each other's back" and abuse this power in twos does it become problematic: https://www.reuters.com/articl...

For a country that has a gross domestic product that falls just behind the US state of Texas
You should have realized meanwhile that GDP is not really a meaningful number.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... population: 325 million.
https://www.reuters.com/articl... population: 145 million

A meaningful number is how much goods and services are produced by worker/citizen. I live in Thailand, if I'm not working, and work in Germany. The GPD is very different ... the quality of life and even some prices are higher in Thailand ... don't even know how big the difference on GDP is ...

In other words: if a country like Greece doubles its prices for everything (which they stupidly did after joining the Euro zone), they double their GDP ... without doubeling anything.

An earlier story: Qualcomm accuses Apple of stealing its secrets to help Intel. (Sept. 25, 2018)

Quote: "Apple has cast doubt on Qualcomm's claims. Last month, it alleged that Qualcomm refused to answer its questions about which specific confidential information it had improperly shared with Intel. Apple has also alleged that it gave Qualcomm the chance to verify that Qualcomm's software had been used properly."

Thousands of Middle Easterners and Africans have entered the U.S. via the southern border. What's up for debate is how many of them have ties to terroristic organizations. But the existence of Arabs and other non-Hispanics among the migrants is hardly up for debate.

It's likely and possible that a handful of the current caravan are of Middle Eastern origin. How can one say for certainty that there aren't, when there is a history of such migrant behavior?

Regarding the funding and leadership of this group, it is also highly likely that someone with an interest in undermining the Trump Administration would at least be supportive of the caravan if not actively funding and guiding it. The obvious benefit is to create some nasty optics right before the November 6 elections: evil fascist ICE thugs gunning down helpless migrants, separating children from parents, etc.

The Mexicans have little interest in stopping them, even though actually Mexico has very strong trespassing laws of their own and normally will arrest and hold interlopers in prison, sometimes for years. In this case, they hardly even tried. Clearly, they would like to see the U.S. embarrassed.

It would appear that the scenario has somewhat backfired; the Republicans have seized on it as an example of Latin America's corruption and Democrat inability to formulate and support effective immigration law.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Which country is that? There are a lot of countries in the EU and their emissions have been going up: https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Are you suggesting they sue the EU?

Too bad the EU emissions are going up: https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Not sure what you are talking about. The UK has been decreasing emissions since 2012, while the EU has been increasing theirs: https://www.reuters.com/articl...

I'm not sure. Why don't we ask the EU why their emissions went up in 2017 and will again in 2018? https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Are they part of the "industry" and "ignoring science"?

The EU increased their emissions in 2017, and is set to increase them further in 2018: https://www.reuters.com/articl...

How realistic is it there are going to be emission reductions by 2020? Totally unrealistic.

How can you be the "victim party" that faces everyone's bias and be the party in power?

Gerrymandering.

How the GOP Rigs Elections
Republican Ruthlessness and Democratic Ineptitude Got Us Here
Five myths about gerrymandering
How Michigan is an extreme example of gerrymandering
Supreme Court favors Republicans in gerrymandering cases
N.C. has the worst gerrymander in US history. What else is new?
The Atlas Of Redistricting

it would make sense to simply export it to China, India, Pakistan and ACEAN countries who are in dire need of it

Maybe, but there are way better ways that are more than likely to happen long before we get into a friendly market for coal with China. Which before I move on I should say, China is starting to become hostile to US coal, and they've got Australian coal to offset US, but I think we're just at the starting point for this situation. I think we've pissed them off a bit, but that's getting into a whole another topic, I digress.

This administration has become super friendly to the idea of more LNG ports and we're getting them. I'm thinking that LNG exports are going to skyrocket over the next few years, drawing domestic supply of LNG down and increasing the price of LNG to a point where coal becomes somewhat more competitive. "Don't make something cheap to stimulate a market, when you can make something else expensive to stimulate a market."

it would make sense to simply export it to China, India, Pakistan and ACEAN countries who are in dire need of it

Maybe, but there are way better ways that are more than likely to happen long before we get into a friendly market for coal with China. Which before I move on I should say, China is starting to become hostile to US coal, and they've got Australian coal to offset US, but I think we're just at the starting point for this situation. I think we've pissed them off a bit, but that's getting into a whole another topic, I digress.

This administration has become super friendly to the idea of more LNG ports and we're getting them. I'm thinking that LNG exports are going to skyrocket over the next few years, drawing domestic supply of LNG down and increasing the price of LNG to a point where coal becomes somewhat more competitive. "Don't make something cheap to stimulate a market, when you can make something else expensive to stimulate a market."

Because clearly YouTube is a statistically relevant sample that should be used to draw conclusions of any kind.

Nobody posts every car fire from ICE powered vehicles, because they are amazingly common. In 2015 alone, there were 174,000 highway vehicle fires.

Reuters reports a single Tesla car fire in 2015.

You are a god damn idiot.

teslas are not the highest selling car by volume or by any other statistic. Here is another link for you. showing actual sales BY VOLUME in the USA: https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Nope. I am saying you are WORSE because you are a hypocrite. Europeans don't get to lecture anyone EVER on being a good global citizen. The EU is increasing their carbon emissions: https://www.reuters.com/articl...

Soon to be two years data. Why is the EU increasing their carbon output?

https://www.reuters.com/articl...

You signed a treaty! Apparently you guys aren't taking this too seriously.

And the EU keeps increasing their carbon output, so I agree: https://www.reuters.com/articl...