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Re:Right, and we've seen the results of that
"If they piss off the wrong people and the NSA or other security agencies start taking an interest in them they are as good as caught."
From this article:
"Over the past eight months, he’s been linked to attacks on some of the world’s biggest companies, including Sony, Nintendo, News Corp. and PBS, as well as a number of governmental organizations and the controversial Westboro Baptist Church."
So your claim that they haven't pissed off the wrong people means you either don't know who they have pissed off, or you have no idea how the Corporatocracy works. Hell, they didn't just piss off major corporations and governments, they pissed off GOD!
;-) Indeed, the FBI is involved at the very least. Yours is a classic case of sour grapes. You don't like what they are doing, so you want to believe that their "sk1l7z 2ux0r", even though you don't know who they are or how they operate, despite your claims to the contrary. Let's explore your claim further.
From Wikipedia: In a Carnegie Mellon report prepared for the U.S. Department of Defense in 2005, script kiddies are defined as "The more immature but unfortunately often just as dangerous exploiter of security lapses on the Internet. The typical script kiddy uses existing and frequently well known and easy-to-find techniques and programs or scripts to search for and exploit weaknesses in other computers on the Internet—often randomly and with little regard or perhaps even understanding of the potentially harmful consequences.[5]So as we can see, even if we accept your claim that they are clueless buffoons from a technical standpoint even though that flies in the face of direct evidence (or more accurately, lack thereof), the best term to describe them is still not script kiddies, merely because social consequences is their primary focus.
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Re:no checks whatsoever if you fly a private plane
But if you're a commercial pilot, you get to experience the security theater just like the rest of us.
And that's just one of his articles about actual security theater stupidity incidents.
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Chamber of Commerce Smear Campaign King and Irony
The US Chamber of Commerce is a lobbying organization -- it's not like they have Industrial Super Secrets. Besides, a high proportion of their clients are Chinese anyway and presumably have pretty good access to the organization already.
True, The Chamber Of commerce also hacks anyone who criticizes their illegal and immoral behaviour. HBGary Federal payback perhaps?
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Re:BrokeLook at Obama. He's honest, smart, and completely helpless. He wasted most of his first two years trying to negotiate with people who had no intention of ever working with him.
You are part of the brain-washed masses, my friend. While I will concede your second point, he does appear to negotiate with non-compromising Republicans who will not budge regardless of what is offered. Oh, and I will concede the "smart" part.
However, for every issue he cares about there is another issue where he is happy with the outcome, yet pretends to be helpless opposition. (i.e. not putting any, even minimal, effort into opposing it, while officially disagreeing). And for each such issue there is at least one more where he is gladly working with Republicans in a complete turn-around from most un-equivocal promises he had made during election campaign. The latest budget bill is an excellent example, where his only opposition/veto threat came from protecting his (Executive) prerogative to quietly send away "accused terrorists", rather than from defending people's constitutional rights. Please educate yourself on the "smart, honest and helpless" president - you can start by reading Glenn Greenwald at Salon. -
Re:In case anyone has not yet heard it..
That is actually the part that scares me the most. If things are this bad in areas that I actually have some knowledge about, how much badness am I not seeing because I am too ignorant? How many horrible ideas have we silently let be implemented, just because we didn't know?
Well, for one, the roosters of Dick Cheney's EPA exemption for fracking seem to finally be coming home to roost.
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Re:We Now Live the Future We Warned Ourselves Abou
...after being tasered in an earlier incident on their land for allegedly resisting arrest, they brandished weapons at the officers who came to seize the cows.
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Re:We Now Live the Future We Warned Ourselves Abou
This entire story is far more complex and subtle, than the "McNews" cattle-rustle story linked in the original posting.
Read Greenwald, who as usual, digs deeper into the context and background. It is indeed, a story of creeping fascist militarization of the US: http://www.salon.com/2011/12/12/the_growing_menace_of_domestic_drones/singleton/?mobile.html
The colonists overthrew George lll for lesser intrusion.
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Re:It's a SERVICE
Social Security is in no "crisis", it's actually solvent until around *2037* where the payroll tax base will be sufficient enough to cover only about 75% of promised benefits until *2085*. Since the 1980s when the Great Income Divide began between the super wealthy and the rest of us, Middle class incomes have also stagnated for the past thirty years. Considering the immense concentration of "trickle down" wealth over the same time period (62% of income gains earned from 2002-2007 went to the top 1% _alone_), the payroll tax capped at around 110k/year doesn't touch the immense gains that the richest in the country reaped, and along with the aforementioned stagnant Middle class gains, a future budget shortfall is created from the lost revenue. The bipartisan effort to "reform" Social Security with cuts is logically absurd: "we are facing shortfalls in the future, so to prevent them we must achieve the equivalent by making cuts *now*."
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No political censorship?
Child porn has been censored in the US for decades. Has it led to political censorship yet? Nope. Again, you're insane. Paranoid, specifically.
Ok, how about this one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Davis
Davis was named the head of the Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade Division of the Congressional Research Service in December 2008; and was fired from this job in late November or early December 2009.[20] This occurred because of an op-ed Davis wrote in the Wall Street Journal.[21] Davis criticized a preliminary report from the inter-agency review team President Obama authorized for proposing looser judicial standards when the suspects faced more serious charges.
Davis wrote: "The administration must choose. Either federal courts or military commissions, but not both, for the detainees that deserve to be prosecuted and punished for their past conduct."
More details here http://www.salon.com/2011/11/28/inside_the_attack_on_the_first_amendment/
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Re:Every commercial airliner already is a drone
No they don't. If it's not a puddle jumper, the damn thing lands itself.
How about we listen to an actual commercial pilot? http://www.salon.com/2011/08/04/can_jetliners_fly_themselves/
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Re:Yet Another Terrible Flamebait Slashdot Summary
Ranting against the DEA for any reason is well justified considering the damage it does to our country. Glenn Greenwald debated Bush's drug czar recently and really laid open the festering wound that is prohibition. The video is here:
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/15/debating_bushs_drug_czar_on_legalization/singleton/
(Glenn Greenwald should run for president)
Wrong. The DEA does damage to our country. Ranting against the DEA for doing bad things is justified and a fine thing to do. Ranting against the DEA for things like this is NOT justified and just makes the argument look worse. I'll never understand how people don't get that if your argument is good and your cause is justified, it is only HURT by misleading those you are arguing with/trying to convince. As soon as they find out they were mislead, they are likely to not believe anything you say. (oddly enough, look at the DARE program for an example of this)
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Re:Yet Another Terrible Flamebait Slashdot Summary
Ranting against the DEA for any reason is well justified considering the damage it does to our country. Glenn Greenwald debated Bush's drug czar recently and really laid open the festering wound that is prohibition. The video is here:
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/15/debating_bushs_drug_czar_on_legalization/singleton/
(Glenn Greenwald should run for president)
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Re:This guy ever been beaten up before?
One woman had a miscarriage as a direct result of being kicked in the stomach repeatedly by police. (And, yes, she told be police she was pregnant, and that she was trying to escape to protect her unborn child.)
Is that enough violence for you? Or would you like more before you regard this as despicable?
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Re:So both and get it done!
I wish America had a system that allowed viable third party candidates... but, as it stands now,Americans will have to choose between corrupt and corrupter in 2012. We are so screwed.
If the end result of voting for either party is that you get screwed, there is no risk in voting third party and some potential benefit. Realize that third parties don't have to win to be effective -- imagine a situation where 80% of the voters pick the GOP or Democratic candidate and one of those wins. It doesn't take a genious in the losing party to realize that there is a huge potential in the 20% who essentially voted "none of the above", and that by finding out what that 20% wants and adjusting the platform accordingly, they might win next time around. As for the winner, that candidate may also see the machinations of the opposition and court those third party voters as well. That is winning in defeat, and the ONLY thing preventing that from happening, is people's unwillingness to side with a "loser" because psychologically, it feels bad.
As for voting the lesser evil, realize that politicians have no soul and will do anything at all. So for example, Marty Lederman excoriated the Bush adminstration for using secret memos to justify due process free detention. Now that he is part of Obama's presidency, he is _writing_ secret memos to justify due process free execution. An example of a lesser evil being a greater evil.
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/09/the_awlaki_memo_and_marty_lederman/singleton/I voted for a third party candidate last election season and I still feel good about it. I was under no illusions that I'd be on a "winning" team, but I also do not feel like I was duped, used, or abused. Join me -- find a third party you like and write in the candidate's name. You'll feel better about voting once you realize it is about more than picking a "winner" amongst the losers the GOP and Dems select.
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Re:spin.
Your definition of "not troubling" is pretty fucking evil:
That cable was released by WikiLeaks in May, 2011, and, as McClatchy put it at the time, "provides evidence that U.S. troops executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old infant, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence, during a controversial 2006 incident in the central Iraqi town of Ishaqi." The U.S. then lied and claimed the civilians were killed by the airstrike.
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/23/wikileaks_cables_and_the_iraq_war/singleton/
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Re:spin.
Here's a cite for you Mr. Head-in-the-Sand:
That cable was released by WikiLeaks in May, 2011, and, as McClatchy put it at the time, "provides evidence that U.S. troops executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old infant, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence, during a controversial 2006 incident in the central Iraqi town of Ishaqi." The U.S. then lied and claimed the civilians were killed by the airstrike.
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/23/wikileaks_cables_and_the_iraq_war/singleton/
Sounds leak worthy to me.
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Re:spin.
There were plenty of cover-ups in those documents that needed to be exposed.
Here's one: http://www.salon.com/2011/10/23/wikileaks_cables_and_the_iraq_war/singleton/
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Re:Cool!
Just to refresh YOUR memory
U.S. Invades (well about 2-3 countries a year but let's do 1 example).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_InvasionU.S. creates no fly zone, economic sanctions, practices attack maneuvers OVER your contry.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6030302/iran_fires_antiaircraft_missile_fails.html
Some examples of U.S. terrorist activities - http://www.salon.com/2011/03/11/us_arms_sales/. Rwanda, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq... what a catalog of success.Now in case you missed it there's this large country called the U.S. they have military bases in 100+ countries most of which have actively campaigned to get the U.S. OUT.
Also, in case YOU missed it. There is this same large country called the U.S.. They view the world as their military theatre... pieces of their imperialist empire. They have the CIA good for poisonings.... supporting drug cartels and rebels inyyour country, and which is also useful against reporters.You didn't bother to read anything you linked to did you ?
But lets sort out your farrago of misinformation.
The U.S. invades 2-3 countries/year since the bay of pigs ? well lets call that 2.5 countries/year * 60 years = 150 countries since 1960. Seeing as the U.S. recognizes 195 I am sure we will get the last 45 done in good speed.
"The U.S. creates no fly zones over your country". You are upset about the U.S. trying to depose Saddam Hussein ? BTW your link was about Iran which doesn't have a U.S. enforced no fly zone.
U.S. terrorism, you link to an article authorizing private arms sales to sovereign governments. I don't know what your point is maybe you feel the guy who mined the lead to make the bullet is a terrorist as well ?
Now when you say countries have active campaigned to get U.S. bases out just what constitutes the country ? Because whenever the U.S. even thinks about closing a base the areas around it have their town fathers turn white at the thought of their local economies going in the crapper. If you would like examples look at Clark Air Base and Subik Bay in the Philipines.
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Re:Cool!
Just to refresh YOUR memory U.S. Invades (well about 2-3 countries a year but let's do 1 example). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
U.S. creates no fly zone, economic sanctions, practices attack maneuvers OVER your contry.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6030302/iran_fires_antiaircraft_missile_fails.html
Some examples of U.S. terrorist activities - http://www.salon.com/2011/03/11/us_arms_sales/. Rwanda, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq... what a catalog of success.
Now in case you missed it there's this large country called the U.S. they have military bases in 100+ countries most of which have actively campaigned to get the U.S. OUT.
Also, in case YOU missed it. There is this same large country called the U.S.. They view the world as their military theatre... pieces of their imperialist empire. They have the CIA good for poisonings.... supporting drug cartels and rebels in your country, and which is also useful against reporters. -
Re:TOS, EULA
Another point to add is that almost all of them look like job contracts. They basically save every and all rights because you're the one interested in using the service and not the other way around.
Sometimes they do this just to be on the safe side (legally speaking) but that
still feels wrong and forces very easily breakable ToS on users.quote from Salon.com ToS.
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Re:corner ?
Regarding the "plot" to kill the ambassador, even the article you linked is titled "US Says". There's an alternate view of what went down there.
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Re:Due process has been afforded
The right to free speech is not infinite. Especially when your speech infringes on the rights of others (try right to life of soldiers and CIA),
1) The revalations stemming from decoding the wikileaks cache are directly responsible for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq: http://www.salon.com/2011/10/23/wikileaks_cables_and_the_iraq_war/singleton/
2) 4483 US Military Deaths in Iraq in the last 9 years (498/yr): http://icasualties.org/
3) Documented civilian deaths (probably very conservative): 100k+ (over 11k/year) http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Plainly, it SILENCE that would cause death and destruction. In such circumstances, it is immoral, inhumane, and evil to keep the information secret. If anything should be a capital crime, it should be the failure to reveal information where such failure results in 1000s of deaths.
When I google "killed because of leaked cables", I end up with this: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/02/cable-reveals-airstrike-killed-21-children-yemen/
But that's a story about our proud government killing 21 children in Yemen and how the information was contained in the cables. So instead of some theoretical bullshit about how the leak endangering soldiers, the truth is it will save 500 soldiers per year and we won't be responsible for 11,000 (min) civilian deaths per year in Iraq. Every person involved in leaking the cables deserves a Nobel Peace prize. -
New trend...
That I thought I read about 3 years ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/us/30grease.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2008/0506/p01s03-usgn.html
http://blog.oregonlive.com/nwheadlines/2008/05/restaurant_kitchen_grease_thef.html
http://www.biodieselmagazine.com/articles/2884/california-cop-is-arrested-for-grease-theft/
And last year
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-09-29-restaurant-grease-thieves_N.htm
But apparently has been around much longer, maybe even before the Simpsons episode (1998)
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Re:WowI started to read the list, but I stopped at number 4:
4. Announced a plan to responsibly end the war in Iraq: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/28/washington/28troops.html
Notice that this article is almost 3 years old. In the present day, we have two people to thank for getting out of Iraq: George Bush, ironically, and whoever released the key Julian Assange's cache of cables. Obama was lobbying Iraq to stay longer but Iraq refused to extend the timetable setup by GWB. In other words, we are getting out DESPITE Obama, not because of him and he is holding in solitary the one person in this whole mess that deserves a peace prize way more than warmonger-Obama, providing Manning is the hero who helped bring us an end to Iraq by shining a light on war crimes.
So --- I wonder how many of the items in this list are pure BS like #4, and how many obscure acts are nothing more than list fodder. -
Re:WowI started to read the list, but I stopped at number 4:
4. Announced a plan to responsibly end the war in Iraq: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/28/washington/28troops.html
Notice that this article is almost 3 years old. In the present day, we have two people to thank for getting out of Iraq: George Bush, ironically, and whoever released the key Julian Assange's cache of cables. Obama was lobbying Iraq to stay longer but Iraq refused to extend the timetable setup by GWB. In other words, we are getting out DESPITE Obama, not because of him and he is holding in solitary the one person in this whole mess that deserves a peace prize way more than warmonger-Obama, providing Manning is the hero who helped bring us an end to Iraq by shining a light on war crimes.
So --- I wonder how many of the items in this list are pure BS like #4, and how many obscure acts are nothing more than list fodder. -
Only "arrest and detain"? I wish...
Try *assassinate* underaged US citizens (born on US soil) because they could have been associated with (suspected) terrorists!
I am not talking about al-Awlaki the senior (I can see how people might be divided about him, though, I'd say, if proper Judiciary inquest into his doings were held in the open and conclude with "bring dead or alive", I would not mind much), but his 16 years old son!
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/20/the_killing_of_awlakis_16_year_old_son/
http://www.dailypaul.com/181607/obamas-assassination-order-and-the-secret-memoFed up yet?
Paul B.
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Re:ExceptI don't know, this sounds way wrong to me:
That cable was released by WikiLeaks in May, 2011, and, as McClatchy put it at the time, "provides evidence that U.S. troops executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old infant, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence, during a controversial 2006 incident in the central Iraqi town of Ishaqi." The U.S. then lied and claimed the civilians were killed by the airstrike. Although this incident had been previously documented by the U.N. special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, the high-profile release of the cable by WikiLeaks generated substantial attention (and disgust) in Iraq, which made it politically unpalatable for the Iraqi government to grant the legal immunity the Obama adminstration was seeking.
This is from my link above: http://www.salon.com/2011/10/23/wikileaks_cables_and_the_iraq_war/singleton/
Anyone who exposes such attrocities, whether such exposure is against the law or not, is doing humankind a service and deserves laurels. If that is Manning, he deserves a peace prize, not solitary. -
Re:ExceptObama cannot win. He has raped his base beyond belief. In fact, we will probably have more freedom if a Republican wins, because then the Democrats will go back to PRETENDING to care about civil liberties. No amount of Democratic party spin however, will cover up the unmitigated disaster Obama has been for peace, the environment, civil liberties, openness, and transparency. As astounding as it is, Obama has taken the Bush II depths even lower. His record speaks for itself and what it says is: Hi There, My name is Obama and I'm a big fat neocon!
- Imperial presidency: judge jury and executioner.
- Unconstitutional detention.
- Unconstitutional wiretapping.
- Unconstitutionally waging war and not even bothering with the War Powers Act.
- Taking credit for Iraq ending when it was Iraq that kicked us out on Bush II's timetable and Obama was trying to stay longer. Assange has a much bigger claim for the removal of troops from Iraq.
- Cut deal with insurance industry while touting the public option. In the end, we get the No Insurance Company Left Behind Act. Lobbyists got their money's worth.
- Recent financial reform legislation so weak it would not have even slowed the meltdown had it already been in place. Lobbyists got their money's worth.
- Forgiving torturers Excusing them makes him complicit.
- Not even a show-attempt to prosecute fraud in the meltdown. Instead its bailouts and bonuses.
- Made deepwater horizon more likely.
- And the famous "hire the lobbyists for the industry you bow to" tactic. Good for what I don't know.
- Whistleblowers who expose wrongdoing should not be treated as Manning has been, and we don't even know if manning was responsible. He'll probably just get indefinite detention because the president says so. Welcome to Napoleonic America.
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Re:ExceptObama cannot win. He has raped his base beyond belief. In fact, we will probably have more freedom if a Republican wins, because then the Democrats will go back to PRETENDING to care about civil liberties. No amount of Democratic party spin however, will cover up the unmitigated disaster Obama has been for peace, the environment, civil liberties, openness, and transparency. As astounding as it is, Obama has taken the Bush II depths even lower. His record speaks for itself and what it says is: Hi There, My name is Obama and I'm a big fat neocon!
- Imperial presidency: judge jury and executioner.
- Unconstitutional detention.
- Unconstitutional wiretapping.
- Unconstitutionally waging war and not even bothering with the War Powers Act.
- Taking credit for Iraq ending when it was Iraq that kicked us out on Bush II's timetable and Obama was trying to stay longer. Assange has a much bigger claim for the removal of troops from Iraq.
- Cut deal with insurance industry while touting the public option. In the end, we get the No Insurance Company Left Behind Act. Lobbyists got their money's worth.
- Recent financial reform legislation so weak it would not have even slowed the meltdown had it already been in place. Lobbyists got their money's worth.
- Forgiving torturers Excusing them makes him complicit.
- Not even a show-attempt to prosecute fraud in the meltdown. Instead its bailouts and bonuses.
- Made deepwater horizon more likely.
- And the famous "hire the lobbyists for the industry you bow to" tactic. Good for what I don't know.
- Whistleblowers who expose wrongdoing should not be treated as Manning has been, and we don't even know if manning was responsible. He'll probably just get indefinite detention because the president says so. Welcome to Napoleonic America.
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Re:Focus
Well, the government in Iraq paid attention to the documents and as a result, rejected Obama's pleas to keep troops in Iraq longer. In other words, because of Wikileaks, the US is pulling out of Iraq (at least if you don't count mercenaries etc). Assange deserves a peace prize despite anything else about him.
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/23/wikileaks_cables_and_the_iraq_war/singleton/
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Re:I've got to hand it to the administration
Given the GOP's response vs. Obama's response, I'll take the Obama approach any day, thank you. Vs. the aristocratic, arrogant, self-centered ASSHOLE approach of the GOP, which is to repeatedly do the same thing that hasn't worked for over a decade, and then stand there with their insufferable smug prick-face smiles while the rest of us drown.
As if Obama is actually different from the GOP. The biggest trick the Republicans and Democrats have perpetrated, is the creation of an illusion that there is a difference between the parties. They comprise a monolithic mono-party where power is "traded" (like one would pass a ball from the left hand to the right hand - in either case you still have the ball) back and forth between them for the benefit of their benefactors.
As an astounding example, Marty Lederman excoriated the Bush Administration for using secret legal memos to justify immoral and unconstitutional behavior. Now that he is part of the Obama administration, he is writing the exact same type of secret legal memos supporting policies even more immoral and unconstitutional.
Citation.
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Re:Criminals
You, sir, need to utilize Google before you comment.
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Re:ChoiceThere are few things Obama could do to restore some faith that he isn't the worst sitting president since Bush II.
- Stop unconstitutional execution of the American citizenry.
- Stop unconstitutional detention.
- Stop unconstitutional wiretapping and prosectue AT&T's complicity (and that of any other carrier).
- Stop unconstitutionally waging war. From Korea onward, all our wars have been illegal, but Obama doesn't even feel constrained by the weak tea requirements of the war powers act. Our founding fathers never intended for the president to be a Napoleon.
- End the wars we are in. And please don't cite Iraq. The ONLY reason we are pulling out troops is because Iraq would not succumb to Obama's lobbying for a longer stay with immunity from war crimes. Thanks to wikipedia for that.
- Quit sucking insurance industry cock, i.e., real nice move touting the public option while secretly cutting a deal for the No Insurance Company Left Behind Act. I guess they got their money's worth.
- Quit sucking Wall Street cock, and don't pretend that the financial reform legislation would have even been a mild hindrance to the meltdown had it already been in place.
- Prosecute torturers rather than let them off the hook. Excusing them makes him complicit.
- At least make a show of investigating fraud on Street. The S&L crisis was 1/40th the size and 1000 bankers went to jail. This meltdown isn't even being investigated, instead, their handing out bonuses. A big "Fuck You Very Much Mr. Obama" for that.
- Thanks for helping to enable Deepwater horizon, it was exactly the gift I wanted!
- Quit hiring Keystone Pipeline lobbyists for your campaign.
- Bradley Manning. We know you have a hardon for anyone that might stand in the way of relentless war, but Christ, grow a soul and a sense of morality.
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Re:ChoiceThere are few things Obama could do to restore some faith that he isn't the worst sitting president since Bush II.
- Stop unconstitutional execution of the American citizenry.
- Stop unconstitutional detention.
- Stop unconstitutional wiretapping and prosectue AT&T's complicity (and that of any other carrier).
- Stop unconstitutionally waging war. From Korea onward, all our wars have been illegal, but Obama doesn't even feel constrained by the weak tea requirements of the war powers act. Our founding fathers never intended for the president to be a Napoleon.
- End the wars we are in. And please don't cite Iraq. The ONLY reason we are pulling out troops is because Iraq would not succumb to Obama's lobbying for a longer stay with immunity from war crimes. Thanks to wikipedia for that.
- Quit sucking insurance industry cock, i.e., real nice move touting the public option while secretly cutting a deal for the No Insurance Company Left Behind Act. I guess they got their money's worth.
- Quit sucking Wall Street cock, and don't pretend that the financial reform legislation would have even been a mild hindrance to the meltdown had it already been in place.
- Prosecute torturers rather than let them off the hook. Excusing them makes him complicit.
- At least make a show of investigating fraud on Street. The S&L crisis was 1/40th the size and 1000 bankers went to jail. This meltdown isn't even being investigated, instead, their handing out bonuses. A big "Fuck You Very Much Mr. Obama" for that.
- Thanks for helping to enable Deepwater horizon, it was exactly the gift I wanted!
- Quit hiring Keystone Pipeline lobbyists for your campaign.
- Bradley Manning. We know you have a hardon for anyone that might stand in the way of relentless war, but Christ, grow a soul and a sense of morality.
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Makes sense
If it's one thing America's taught me it's that doing useful work is the worst way to earn money around these parts.
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Peak Population crisis?
As I suggest here, the solar system does not have enough people:
:-)
http://p2pfoundation.net/backups/p2p_research-archives/2009-August/004174.htmlAs Julian Simon suggests, the more people, the more creative ideas:
http://www.juliansimon.com/writings/Ultimate_Resource/How else would we get the idea to grind up rock to fertilize soil?
http://www.remineralize.org/Or to make solar power cheaper than coal?
http://cleantechnica.com/2011/05/29/ge-solar-power-cheaper-than-fossil-fuels-in-5-years/Or to invent the computer mouse?
http://www.dougengelbart.org/about/vision-highlights.htmlOr to create terrific participatory democracies?
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2010/08/25/german_usa_working_life_ext2010Or to move beyond war by thinking better?
http://www.beyondintractability.org/audio/morton_deutsch/?nid=2430
http://www.anwot.org/Or maybe even to have cold fusion?
http://pesn.com/2011/09/14/9501913_Rossis_One_Megawatt_Reactor_Gets_A_New_E-Cat_Model/The human imagination (empowered by education and health and access to basic resources) is indeed the ultimate resource.
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Re:Wikileaks done in by its own leak
Out of curiosity, what is your signature referring to?
5th Amendment provides in part, "no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."
Obama ordered the execution of an American citizen based solely on allegations by the Executive branch that he was a bad guy. That is not due process. That is summary execution by the President. That should terrify anyone who values American principals. It will be comforting to those who wish we had an authoritarian dictatorship.
What's worse, is that like the Bush Administration's reliance on secret laws, i.e., secret legal memos justifying its own brand of 5th amendment violation, the deprivation of liberty, Obama is following the same practice. So we have secret laws now that allow the president to kill anyone he thinks is a bad guy, without having to justify himself. That's jaw dropping.
And of course, to show the duplicity of the "two" party system, Obama's secret memo author lambasted the Bush administration for its secret laws:
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/09/the_awlaki_memo_and_marty_lederman/singleton/ -
Re:Wikileaks done in by its own leakThe other take on that is that it will probably save thousands upon thousands of lives. Thanks to Wikileaks, Obama's request for immunity from crimes for US troops was rejected and his desire to prolong the Iraq war thwarted, aided in part by release of a cable showing US war crimes.
That cable was released by WikiLeaks in May, 2011, and, as McClatchy put it at the time, "provides evidence that U.S. troops executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old infant, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence, during a controversial 2006 incident in the central Iraqi town of Ishaqi." The U.S. then lied and claimed the civilians were killed by the airstrike. Although this incident had been previously documented by the U.N. special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, the high-profile release of the cable by WikiLeaks generated substantial attention (and disgust) in Iraq, which made it politically unpalatable for the Iraqi government to grant the legal immunity the Obama adminstration was seeking. Indeed, it was widely reported at the time the cable was released that it made it much more difficult for Iraq to allow U.S. troops to remain beyond the deadline under any conditions.
In other words, whoever leaked that cable cast light on a heinous American war crime and, by doing so, likely played some significant role in thwarting an agreement between the Obama and Maliki governments to keep U.S. troops in Iraq and thus helped end this stage of the Iraq war (h/t Trevor Timm).http://www.salon.com/2011/10/23/wikileaks_cables_and_the_iraq_war/singleton/
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Re:Disproving a case
The researchers found a single inconsistency in the FBI's case
Single inconsistency? Not so much:
Authorities assume that he drove to Princeton immediately after that, dropping the letters in a mailbox on a well-traveled street across from the university campus. Ivins would have had to have left quickly to return for an appointment in the early evening, about 4 or 5 p.m.
The fastest one can drive from Frederick, Maryland to Princeton, New Jersey is 3 hours, which would mean that Ivins would have had to have dropped the anthrax letters in the New Jersey mailbox on September 17 by 1 p.m. or - at the latest - 2 p.m. in order to be able to attend a 4:00 or 5:00 p.m. meeting back at Ft. Detrick. But had he dropped the letters in the mailbox before 5:00 p.m. on September 17, the letters would have borne a September 17 postmark, rather than the September 18 postmark they bore (letters picked up from that Princeton mailbox before 5 p.m. bear the postmark from that day; letters picked up after 5 p.m. bear the postmark of the next day).
If the Post's reporting about Ivins September 17 activities is accurate - that he "return[ed to Fort Detrick] for an appointment in the early evening, about 4 or 5 p.m." - then that would constitute an alibi, not, as the Post breathlessly described it, "a key clue into how he could have pulled off an elaborate crime," since any letter he mailed that way would have a September 17 - not a September 18 - postmark. Just compare the FBI's own definition of "window of opportunity" to its September 17 timeline for Ivins to see how glaring that contradiction is.
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Re:Damn you George Bush!!!!
Man, the Demoplican party must have a huge cache of mod points because anything that points out the truth about Obama gets modded down.
Glen Greenwald had a great piece yesterday on how people who once vehemently attacked Bush for secret legal memos (*) and civil liberties violations, are doing the same things they decried with secret memos and worse civil liberties violations now that they are part of Obama's presidency. Civil liberties would have been safer with a Republocrat in office because then the Demoplicans could have gone on pretending to care about liberty.
http://politics.salon.com/2011/10/09/the_awlaki_memo_and_marty_lederman/singleton/(*) the law is designed to open source, readable by all so that it can be followed. Just how the fuck do you follow secret laws?
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Re:Iran Payback ?
Doubt it, Israel is more likely. Even if they are one of our allies, I don't believe they are an ally we should trust completely, much like how we view China.
Yeah, it's not like they have spied on us before.
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Re:Society and unrestrained power
Now that's just stupid. You don't believe the truck bombing in Time Square and along the MLK day parade route out West was enough?
"Was enough" for what - unrestrained power? No, sorry your fearmongering has lost it's effect - it is not enough. Plus you must mean the FBI's own terrorist plots (that they repeatedly and miraculously thwart successfully). To clarify - (because I admit it does defy belief for normal rational thinking people):
"The FBI has received substantial criticism over the past decade — much of it valid — but nobody can deny its record of excellence in thwarting its own Terrorist plots. Time and again, the FBI concocts a Terrorist attack, infiltrates Muslim communities in order to find recruits, persuades them to perpetrate the attack, supplies them with the money, weapons and know-how they need to carry it out — only to heroically jump in at the last moment, arrest the would-be perpetrators whom the FBI converted, and save a grateful nation from the plot manufactured by the FBI. "
Stupid is as stupid does.
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Re:Society and unrestrained power
Now that's just stupid. You don't believe the truck bombing in Time Square and along the MLK day parade route out West was enough?
"Was enough" for what - unrestrained power? No, sorry your fearmongering has lost it's effect - it is not enough. Plus you must mean the FBI's own terrorist plots (that they repeatedly and miraculously thwart successfully). To clarify - (because I admit it does defy belief for normal rational thinking people):
"The FBI has received substantial criticism over the past decade — much of it valid — but nobody can deny its record of excellence in thwarting its own Terrorist plots. Time and again, the FBI concocts a Terrorist attack, infiltrates Muslim communities in order to find recruits, persuades them to perpetrate the attack, supplies them with the money, weapons and know-how they need to carry it out — only to heroically jump in at the last moment, arrest the would-be perpetrators whom the FBI converted, and save a grateful nation from the plot manufactured by the FBI. "
Stupid is as stupid does.
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Society and unrestrained power
Like how our society has turned into a culture of unrestrained power? Yeah, me either.
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Re:I forseek thee
Oh and one more thing Oh Great Pasta:
Make the TSA double pat down and strip search these clowns at every airport they go through. And please route them on packed Regional Jets for every flight.
Thank you and to honor your tastiness, I shall double my Parmesan Cheese tithe for one month!
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ReLink...
Hm... I meant to put a link in there, but forgot...
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Re:Worse, maybe it's FBI entrapment
1 - You misunderstand the term "Security Theater".
2 - I claimed exaggeration, rather than entrapment. Entrapment is ultimately a call for the courts, but it is a possibility. Like it or not, there is a good chance this guy was just a wind-bag (as opposed to a Terrorist) until the FBI got involved. There is growing body evidence to back up my position
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Re:Drone Attack!
"direction we're heading" Already there, no!? All that is needed is a slightly more trigger happy president sitting on the now live "Kill anyone without due process button" (see linked article re:Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann)
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Licensing changes
It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality', which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to paedophilia.
What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:
- Linus Torvalds is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
- Richard M. Stallman, spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
- Alan Cox is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.
I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.
Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail, which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'
As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.
And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo slut!
Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children. To quote from the article linked:
'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'
Is this why you were touching your penis in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?
We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and co
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Re:Cap Gains vs. Income
Here's what the goverment 50% spending is getting us
http://orangepunch.ocregister.com/2011/05/10/lifeguarding-in-oc-is-totally-lucrative-some-make-over-200k/44783/
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2008/01/02/military_spending