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Ok, then lets count boats...

I doubt that Samsung has anything left to learn about building ships. Real ships.

Samsung wouldn't have gone very far unless the Middle Eastern oil companies provided them with petrochemicals for the Galaxy's plastic cover. However, there is nothing made by Samsung in any product supplied by the said companies. Now...who is the innovator?

Bet you a shiny dollar there is.

Samsung Heavy Industries.

http://slashdot .org/article.pl?sid=00/04/27/0858200&mode=thre ad
http://linuxtoday.com/stories/17660.html
http://www.geeknews.org/news/fe b00/newsitem090.html
http://www.palmstation.com/ view_article.py?article=1786
http://www.pdabuzz.com/Features/Yopy.html
http://slashdot .org/article.pl?sid=00/02/27/1027237&mode=thre ad
http://www.pcworld.com /pcwtoday/article/0,1510,15486,00.html
http://www.ch ip.de/PC2D/PC2DB/PC2DBA/pc2dba.htm?id=323&ress ort=20 (German)
http://www.twomobile.com/new_032200_y opy.html (obviously they didn't credit the source of the pictures and video footage!)
http://ore illy.linux.com/pub/a/network/2000/05/05/magazine/L inuxPDA.html
http://www.handheldmed.com/code/news /yopi1.htm
http://www.gnn.de/0005/7603.html (German)
http://www.p cwelt.de/content/news/newprodukte/2000/05/xn090500 003.html (German)

http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/ eng/product/digital/pda/
http://www.gmate.co.kr

http://www.palmtopmagazin.de/board/linux Discussion about Linux-PDAs (German)
http://www.palmtopmagazin.de/news/linux Linux-PDA news (German)
http://www.theyopy.de German Yopy fan site
http://www.handhelds.org Linux-Development for Compaq iPaq
http://www.yopy.org Another Yopy fan site

Agenda's Palm Clone

Sharp

PalmPalm's Phone PDA

VTech's Updated Version

Samsung's Yopy

Lernout & Hauspie's version with Speech Recognition
maybe more?

At this rate, I might as well develop one.

Well, Mobile Linux will only be useful if it is done right... so that it is actually stable, usable, and as "idiot-proof"/easy to use as WinCE and PalmOS... Palmtops are a user-driven market, and most of the users are not engineers... While Linux gives access to cheaper, more familiar development environments (Gnu compilers, etc.) for OpenSource engineers, there needs to be more than just that...

Some more Linux Handheld links, including the actual specs of Pengachu, which reveal that 900mhz is the RF band (in case you thought it was the clockspeed), etc...

The Project Pengachu home page (specs, etc.)

MobiliX has various Mobile linux links / resources.

Gmate, the Korean company producing a (somewhat expensive) Linux PDA that looks rather a lot like the one from Samsung

Compaq Itsy

I want THIS. And I want it now. If it's not out by Christmas, there will be many wedgies unleashed upon the world.
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why is it no one mentioned the YOPI? this handheld looks swell :)

sulli

http://slashdot .org/article.pl?sid=00/04/27/0858200&mode=thread
http://linuxtoday.com/stories/17660.html
http://www.geeknews.org/news/fe b00/newsitem090.html
http://www.palmstation.com/ view_article.py?article=1786
http://www.pdabuzz.com/Features/Yopy.html
http://slashdot .org/article.pl?sid=00/02/27/1027237&mode=thread
http://www.pcworld.com /pcwtoday/article/0,1510,15486,00.html
http://www.ch ip.de/PC2D/PC2DB/PC2DBA/pc2dba.htm?id=323&ressort= 20 (German)
http://www.twomobile.com/new_032200_y opy.html (obviously they didn't credit the source of the pictures and video footage!)
http://ore illy.linux.com/pub/a/network/2000/05/05/magazine/L inuxPDA.html
http://www.handheldmed.com/code/news /yopi1.htm
http://www.gnn.de/0005/7603.html (German)
http://www.p cwelt.de/content/news/newprodukte/2000/05/xn090500 003.html (German)

http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/ eng/product/digital/pda/
http://www.gmate.co.kr

http://www.palmtopmagazin.de/board/linux Discussion about Linux-PDAs (German)
http://www.palmtopmagazin.de/news/linux Linux-PDA news (German)
http://www.theyopy.de German Yopy fan site
http://www.handhelds.org Linux-Development for Compaq iPaq
http://www.yopy.org Another Yopy fan site

I just dumped my Palm VII and my handspring and got top dollar for them. I will NOT buy another PDA untill the YOPY -kris

If you're interested in putting Linux on PDAs, you might look at this stuff too:
handhelds.org: Putting Linux on iPAQ and Nino
linuxce.org: Developing a Linux Kernel for WinCE devices
linux-vr.org : running linux on your VR series device
uclinux.org: linux/microcontroller project
Yopy: Samsung's pre-installed Linux PDA with color/sound.

hope this helps the interested.

wish
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In that case we'll all be buying the Yopy instead of Webpads, since "third quarter of 2000" really means mid-2001 in the shops, earliest.

I wish these damn mobile computers didn't have to be made with colour displays for marketing reasons though, as the resulting poor battery life makes them almost unsuitable for their main target market. We need something between laptop power consumption and the Palm's three-months-on-two-AAAs frugality, say a week's use between charges. The Yopy's StrongArm is even more frugal than the Crusoe, but the colour LCD makes that irrelevant. Bleh.

And besides the "Palm-plus-expansion-board"-stuff from uclinux, there's the LART as a research project and the upcoming Yopy (see below).

It may only be the first PDA being shipped with Linux. So let's forgive the misleading emphasis:-) But they definitely have to do something about the "system requirements" for the Desktop Partner. vtech.com states: "Microsoft Windows® 95 or Windows® NT Workstation" :-( But netcraft says their webserver is running apache on BSD:-)

On the plus side: 8 MB of SDRAM, plus 2 MB flash for operating system and applications for about $179 against $157 for the Palm IIe with it's 2MB (using http://computers.cnet.com/ list prices, since I haven't seen the Helio being shipped in europe (anyone?)).

But, as stated in another comment, they have to go a long run with Palm being something like a de facto standard (besides the "Windows powered" stuff:-). And, don't forget the Samsungs studies for a "hi end" GNU/Linux-powered PDA: The Yopy. 32MB RAM, 32MB(64MB) Flash Memory and a 206MHz ARM RISC 32bit Microprocessor.

So, I'm not that convinced that "The Helio may make a break for the running of the PDA-of-choice-for-Linux-geeks yet".

If you can hold on a bit (?!) longer, the YOPY should be available very soon. I'm certain many people are waiting on it. It's linux based and aparently can do absolutely everything.

Here is a pocket ARM Linux machine. No HD, but Flash, and a CompactFlash slot.

Sorry for the formatting:

Display
240x320, Bright Back-light, True Color TFT Iiquid
crystal, 65,536 color
CPU
206MHz ARM RISC 32bit Microprocessor
OS
ARMLinux
Interface Serial
RS232C & USB Serial port
Memory
32MB RAM, 32MB(64MB) Flash Memory
Built-In
Internet Web Browser & E-mail S/W with Mobile phone
or Wireless Modem
MP3 Player Function
MPEG Moving Picture Function

I got an email from Gmate saying the software development kit for the Yopy will be out on April 30th. In case you don't know, the Yopy is a Linux based PDA that will be marketed by Samsung. It runs on the 206mhz StrongARM and has a 4" TFT color screen, stereo audio, 32 meg ROM, 32 meg flash RAM (both upgradeable), compact flash slot, RS-232 and USB, 4-way game type buttons, a LiOh battery and runs Linux with W Windows. Gamate is developing lots of fun gadgets to plug into the CF slot (digital camera, PCS phone, Bluetooth and other wireless stuff). The Yopy itself is due out around the first of June. Cpt_Kirks

Here.

4.0 inches True Color TFT LCD

= YOPY's display supports 65,536 colors (240×320 pixels)and its clarity will be attractive enough with its bright backlight.

High Performance 32-Bit Microprocessor

= 206MHz speed Microprocessor will enable you to run any exciting application on YOPY.

Embedded internet Web Browser

= YOPY is a multimedia powerhouse that enables users to view films or surf the internet in vivid color with rich stereo sound.

CompactFlashTM Slot

= YOPY provides you with CompactFlashTM Slot which is industry-standard for storage, memory and additional features.(TV, Digital Camera, GIS, etc.)

Graphic Game

= Enjoy the game of 65,536 colors with powerful stereo sound.

MP3 Player

= You can enjoy MP3 Stereo music and improve foreign language skills.

4Mbps-speed Infrared Transceiver(IrDA)

= You can exchange messages and informations with speed up to 4Mbps and range within 1 meter distance around you

Voice Recording

= It is easy for voice recording by just pressing quick start button and unidirectional microphone allows you to record ideas, reminders and voice memos.

Stereo Earphone with Remote keys

= YOPY provides you with stereo earphone with remote button.
With this, you can listen to MP3 music, radio broadcasts, various sound of games and also you can control and select all the functions of YOPY.

Docking Cradle

= YOPY's docking cradle includes RS232C & USB Serial Port for synchronize with PC and automatic recharge.

Handwriting Recognition with YOPY? Stylus Pen

= Put in information on touch screen with YOPY's stylus pen and it add the nobility of your style. Access E-mail and Internet with YOPY. Organize your schedule and customer information with YOPY's PIMS (Personal Information Management System).

LED Indicator while recharging, data exchanging and alarming.

= Vibration when you need quiet Alarming.
Quick stsrt buttons and scroll action button makes you easy to access applications you want.

it is submersible!

Wow, that looks fucking cool. Here it is with linkage: ttp://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pd a/index.htm .

Serious techno-lust!! Must mortgage home. Must buy talking color thing.

Here is the link I found on Samsungs Korean site.

...these. To bad it appears to be vapor(hard)ware (WTF is the term for vapor-type hardware?). Cpt_Kirks