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URL: http://www.shareaza.com/
CAT: PR2PR

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Interesting. I use Firefox and do not get any kind of warning when I visit the site in question.
So I reported it.

From now on, I shall refer to the site as thieving bastards.

Interesting. I use Firefox and do not get any kind of warning when I visit the site in question.
So I reported it.

From now on, I shall refer to the site as thieving bastards.

Here's some instructions for you: Click this repeatedly to start DDos.

firefox also pops up a warning that http://www.shareaza.com/ is a 'suspected web forgery' / phishing site. nice.

It would appear as if the DOS attack announced in the official sharezaa forum will happen after all. Slashdoters, visit and reload http://www.shareaza.com/ as many times as you can.

I should say, that the comments that the lawyers were objecting to was a thread regarding setting up the real shareaza program to query the www.shareaza.com site in order to perform a distributed denial of service attack on it and put it under.

Of course, suggesting any such thing must be illegal, and organising such an attack even in retaliation is not going to be good for your karma.

IMHO they should just have changed the name of the program and got a new domain name

"SMOKING

Smoking overall is bad for you. It gives you bad breath and may kill you sooner than you'd expect." - the licence agreement
All I can say is: WTF?

though I didn't find it very interesting..

We've seen what kinda of profits spam brings in. I wonder how profitable this is.

Heck, spyware/adware, or some shady P2P programs could have something like this. Reminds me of what happened to http://www.shareaza.com/. It's claimed by a group that be like this. That address used to be shareaza's main site, and it easy for many to not know to go to http://shareaza.sourceforge.net/ for the new updates.

http://www.youporn.com/
http://www.pornotube.com/
http://www.shareaza.com/

Um yeah, why are people still buying discs ???!? I agree with the above poster, there is no way porno is even going to effect this format war. The internet has taken over that industry and distribution completely.

If in case you didn't know, Shareaza is licensed under the GPL, so no DMCA violation.

http://www.shareaza.com/

Oops -- forgot to preview. Here's the link.

Shareaza peeps call that "tagless hashing": http://forums.shareaza.com/showthread.php?threadid =51258

Hard disk space that is required if you install Windows XP SP2 from the Windows XP SP2 CD
[...]
1560 MB peak usage during installation
[...]
You must also have 30 MB of free hard disk space on the first primary system partition.

So installing SP2 requires over 1.5GB of free disk space, according to MS's own information. Maybe they're wrong, but I've found it impossible to install it on my 1.9GB drive.

BTW, you say: "I slipstream SP2 into the XP install media". As far as I can tell, this process is illegal. There's nothing in the XP EULA that grants permission to make copies of the installation CD. The fact that various sources both inside & outside MS recommend it as a useful technique is besides the point: it is (at least technically) a copyright violation, and you could be sued for doing it.

As for 30 half-open TCP connections, what is the problem with that? P2P services don't rely solely on half-open connections and perform quite well under SP2 so what's the effective limit? You can't run a server on a desktop OS?

Servers don't typically need all that many half-open connections. Clients that connect to multiple servers for short-lived queries are the main problem. I run a variety of web spiders here, and find that they are substantially slower when run under SP2. As for P2P apps not having trouble with it, why do I see so many of their forums discussing patches that change the limit?

Perhaps why HP home doesn't come with IIS. Are you going to fault MS with that decision as well?

No. But if XP RTM came with IIS but SP2 deleted it, I think I'd have a right to be pissed off. And certainly I think I would have a right to not "upgrade" if I didn't think it was worth it.

Besides that it's incredibly difficult to find a machine which doesn't have enough free space for SP2 since 40gig drives were already well into the norm when XP was released.

Well, yeah... actually I'd slightly disagree, I reckon most entry level machines were being sold with either 10GB or 20GB drives at that time, but it doesn't matter: the minimum specs for XP were basically a 4 year old machine when XP was released: 64MB RAM, Pentium 233 or better, and 1.5GB hard disk. Plenty of people, I'm sure, run XP on machines that aren't a lot better than that. I can't be the only one. That's the reason those are the minimum specs, right, to tell you that if you have a machine that meets them, Windows XP is an operating system you can use on it. Except now it turns out it isn't.

How bout you try again and mention a networking application which isn't feasible which is an end-user application and not a server.

Some P2P apps (try running a gnutella client that was released before SP2 on a SP2 machine; the results will be painful). Anything that downloads web content from multiple servers in parallel and which you expect to finish quickly (e.g., applications that summarize search results). Apparently it can cause issue

• uTorrent (BitTorrent, Windows)
• Azureus (BitTorrent, Java)
• BitTornado (BitTorrent, Windows/Linux/BSD)
• KTorrent (BitTorrent, Linux/BSD/Mac)
• eMule (eDonkey, Windows)
• aMule (eDonkey, Linux/BSD/Mac/Windows)
• FrostWire (Gnutella, Java)
• Cabos (Gnutella, Java)
• Shareaza (Gnutella2/Gnutella1/eDonkey, Windows)
• Ares (Ares, Windows)
• DC++ (DirectConnect, Windows)
• RevConnect (DirectConnect, Windows)
• Valknut (DirectConnect, Linux/BSD/Mac)

I know Shareaza isn't the absolute greatest bittorrent client out there... but it seems to work fine for me, and the fact that it's also a Gnutella2 and eDonkey client makes it just too damn good for getting all those 'latest and greatest' BitTorrent things, as well as those hard to find things you only get via other P2P networks.

Plus... if your tracker goes down it looks for alternat Gnutella2 sources... sweet. :)

Oh... and it's open source... that's good... right? :P

I mean, I completely agree with this... I already may have a media centre pc, but it uses more power than an xbox would, is noisier than an xbox is, doesn't look as nice as an xbox...(hey, I did paint it black, but still) and, well, just isn't as cool as having a silent xbox sitting and being a media centre.

But can it be my Shareaza download box as well?

Oooh, Shareaza has a new version... must download. :)

What I don't get is why the post doesn't provide link to some information about eDonkey network and some clients to use. I know it can be found on the Net within seconds, but why not make the article more useful.

Wow. I am so glad that these fine folks researched and invented a rating system for P2P networking. Because then networks like Shareaza and EDonkey wouldn't have to take the credit for having such a system several years ago.

While these "researchers" are writing their self-congratulatory paper for re-implementing other people's work, can I please get a doctorate in working them over with a baseball bat for being such jackasses?

Apparently music playing in the background of crappy reality tv shows still counts to them... I watch the new MTV.

This is very un-shocking though... With the colony counting down to May 12th and Peter Moore (used to run Sega US...remember 9.9.99?) running the Xbox team, this just seems to make perfect sense.

Use Shareaza to handle your torrents:

Currently: 30KB/s down, 6KB/s up

Not necessarily the "best", but Shareaza is very good, for a number of reasons:

- Works well (IMHO)
- Open source and Free (beer)
- Connects to Gnutella, Gnutella2 and Emule networks
- Built-in bittorrent support.

What exactly was your experience? LimeWire, to me, appears to do exactly as he said. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't think he sold out there.

Shareaza is missing from the list, but is very similar to LimeWire - might be a good alternative (note: shareaza, not sharaza!)

http://www.shareaza.com/

Fantastic program as far as I'm concerned, have been using it for ages... first when it was just free but closed source, and now when it's become Open Source.

Have a try... it support 4 P2P networks: EDonkey2000, Gnutella, Gnutella2 and BitTorrent.

It can be grabbed at www.shareaza.com

I believe the author of Shareaza was an Australian. It is now open source.

Azureus is ok for Linux (though I still prefer the official btlaunchmanycurses.py) but for Windows I use Shareaza as an all-in-one p2p app since it also does gnutella and edonkey.

Why does anyone use WinMX, Kazaa or any other spy and mal-ware software when both eMule and Shareaza are available? with source?

I guess I spend so much money on my hobby, CGI and the software for that, I just can't handle the thought of buying something when a free application does as good or better.

Some free software that is better than alternative commercial software (or has no alternative):

FREENET

Steel Panthers: World at War

Irfanview

PAF 5 (genealogy software, go to download products, ignore Marie Osmond's attempts to seduce you to the dark side)

GMAX 3D Modelling software

You can also get tons of free software with the purchase of magazines (I know, not really free); you can get the previous version or a free version of just about any graphical app when you buy digit magazine, including software that cost kilobucks as recently as a year ago.

For binaries newsgroups (and binaries only), I've found GrabIt to be very nice and free. It _seems_ adware/spyware free too.

For P2P apps, maybe Shareaza should be part of the list. They have a very strict policy about ad/spy-wares (and it's GPL licensed).

Shareaza does it, kinda, but it's basically eDonkey and a couple other things mixed into one. It has a BT client built-in, and you can use eDonkey/Mule/Dingo/Fox to search for the torrent files (usually they were torrents from SuprNova), then run the torrents (don't think there's a way to automatically do it though).

Granted, this was 2.0. 2.1 may be different. I stopped using Shareaza because it felt pretty slow. I suppose a similar way to do this would be to use eMule to download the torrents and then run them in whatever torrent client you use.

Doesn't Shareaza already do this?

Shareaza

Why not just have your friend install shareaza and send him a magnet link?
http://shareaza.com/

That's what I do with even my n00bliest of online buddies.

... that does edonkey, gnutella 2, gnutella 1 AND bit torrent.

http://shareaza.com/

I can find anything on there, and it's open source! I wish there was a IM client that integrated it, but if you AND your IM friend both have shareaza, it's very easy to send a URI link to that person, and they can get the file that easy!

rhY

Yay! Something to speed up my p2p client! It was almost getting to the point where getting in my car and driving to whoever's computer I happened to be downloading from was faster than downloading it. Of course, with shareaza 2.0 http://www.shareaza.com/ out, it did get a lot faster anyway (with the support for SP2 and all).

I used UltraVNC for a while, and I agree, it was supurb.. vast, showed all the windows that appear when you mouse over things (most don't, and especially not translucent ones)... BUT... and it was a big but (oooh, so many jokes)... it had the annoying habit of rebooting the machine it was running on when I had Shareaza running for any amount of time with a number of bit-torrents downloading.

Now... I have since worked out that Shareaza (at least version 2, haven't retried bitorrents with 2.1) has/had some issues with Bittorrents... but rebooting the machine, that's a bit much.

No other VNC client rebooted the machine, they would just end up refusing to connect with Shareaza running with mulitple bittorrents. So, while it was limited to the interaction of UltraVNC AND Shareaza, and is therefore not entirely UltraVNCs fault, it made me wary of it.

I should give it another try though, it was fast.

I know the last time I tried it Shareaza's Bittorrent support was crap, but things may well be better since the release of Shareaza 2.1.0.0, which according to the release notes has numerous improvements to Bittorrent support.

What the best of all worlds?

Shareaza allows eDonkey, Gnutella, Gnutella2 (Their extension) and even Bittorrent.

It's now open source (GPL), and has a SourceForge project.

Gnutella still rocks, Gnutella2 (G2) allows for better search results and eDonkey is another option for those of you who want to expand your options.

Granted, it doesn't work *great* with eDonkey, but I've downloaded quite a few files from eDonkey users fine. And having one interface for Bittorrent and a normal P2P is nice.

• Gnutella support
• Gnutella2 support
• Edonkey2000 support
• BitTorrent support
• Free!
• No Spyware.
• Open Source. Really!

You could try Shareaza, though if 80MB of RAM is too much (And that's with a rather large library), then I suppose WinMX might be an alternative.

My all time favourite client for accessing eDonkey, Gnutella, Gnutella 2 and Bitorrents, all in one shiney app is Shareaza. This is one great client that I've had wonderful success with. I recommend it as easy to use and very powerful.

Resoundingly, people across the country told us there was a special need for software to enable neighbor-to-neighbor activity--and that, ideally, it should be freely distributed, easy to use, and free.

Shareaza has found some solutions and are discussing them.

Meh. Just use Shareaza instead...

Why not just say, "I use P2P to download Linux distros?" I mean, isn't bittorrent a P2P app? Before I broke my Windows installation, I used to always do bittorrent downloads with Shareaza. Heck, you don't even have to go through the trouble of making a recording, just write a short essay or put your /. posts in your share folder. I used to put political cartoons I made in there...though I don't think anybody downloaded them.

Until P2P offers feedback ratings on a combo hash and filename, there's little to be done with it to verify safety except to do one's own "best effort" and pray no one else is able to hide things better than you are able to find them.

There are plenty of web sites that provide this kind of information. Some P2P software supports it internally, also. So stop saying "until" -- that time is now.

"Hatch says such firms 'think that they can legally profit by inducing children to steal."

Thankfully I only use P2P programs that are GPL, and thus free as in beer, so little if any profit motivation there.

The best p2p applications are usually free / open source like eMule, Freenet, and how apparently even Shareza 2.0 is open sourced under the GPL.

"Hatch says such firms 'think that they can legally profit by inducing children to steal."

Thankfully I only use P2P programs that are GPL, and thus free as in beer, so little if any profit motivation there.

The best p2p applications are usually free / open source like eMule, Freenet, and how apparently even Shareza 2.0 is open sourced under the GPL.

Shareaza is my poison of choice.

Shareaza=Gnutella2 + Gnutella1 + BitTorrent + EDonkey2000.
Good Times.

No adware in LimeWire, either, if you know what you're doing with it.

I prefer shareaza though -- the user interface is much nicer and it has some useful features that limewire lacks.