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Re:Schedule seems ambitious
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Re:It will automatically beat Hyperloop
Well, it won't be cost effective. It's apparently maglev. So unless they have some maglev breakthrough to make it cheaper, their system won't be cheap.
The interesting thing about Hyperloop Alpha wasn't that it was in a tube, it's that it was based around compressors (so the pressure in the tube didn't have to be a hard vacuum, which is expensive) feeding air bearings (so they didn't need to use maglev, which is expensive). But now "Hyperloop" has transformed into a synonym for "any sort of craft moving in a tube", including from some of the companies that have adopted the Hyperloop moniker that use technologies not at all related to those in Hyperloop Alpha. Many of them are just good old fashioned maglev vactrains.
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Re:Key omission from American media
If you read the Chinese news report, the statement says it "seize the unknown object because it posed safety concern to the passing sea traffic". Of course, it is an excuse. But given we use the excuse of "freedom of navigation" to intrude within the 12 nm of their claimed island, it is a fair game.
Difference is that there isn't an island an no one recognizes their claim.
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Key omission from American media
If you read the Chinese news report, the statement says it "seize the unknown object because it posed safety concern to the passing sea traffic". Of course, it is an excuse. But given we use the excuse of "freedom of navigation" to intrude within the 12 nm of their claimed island, it is a fair game.
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Are you kidding?
I don't know what koolaid you guys have been drinking, but Chinese news says the rabbit has waked up.
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Re:What About the Ministry of Censorship?
Surely the Environmental Ministry cannot be as harmful as the Chinese Ministry preventing this quote from being carried in Xinhua, China Daily or any major news source in China? [...] Solve your censorship problem and you will solve a lot of your other problems. Just be prepared to see high turnover in your leadership -- something that has been needed for a very long time in China.
Let me guess which ministry you are referring to...
Ah, must be the U.S. Department of Education. Since it obvious doesn't teach you Chinese and consequently causing you unable to read this same news in Chinese news and make up false conclusion.
Apparently your reading comprehension is also a product of the same Department of Education like the OP asked for, Sina is not a major news source in China! Sina is not completely controlled by the Communist Party. Furthermore, that is the reposting of a BBC news article! The beginning of that article says so!
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Re:What About the Ministry of Censorship?
Surely the Environmental Ministry cannot be as harmful as the Chinese Ministry preventing this quote from being carried in Xinhua, China Daily or any major news source in China?
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Solve your censorship problem and you will solve a lot of your other problems. Just be prepared to see high turnover in your leadership -- something that has been needed for a very long time in China.Let me guess which ministry you are referring to...
Ah, must be the U.S. Department of Education. Since it obvious doesn't teach you Chinese and consequently causing you unable to
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Found the blog
Following what the LA Times claimed to have done to find his blog, I believe this is the first post in question since it matches their description:
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We demand the RIGHT to read something new!
Why is this news to our we-know-it-all readers?
Want something new, maybe somebody who actually know Chinese can read some of the top articles in today's Sina Blog and the thousands of comments on these articles and tell us what they have read.
Searching names of activists and returning no result. Is that news either? Maybe someone can try these other queries to see what results are.
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We demand the RIGHT to read something new!
Why is this news to our we-know-it-all readers?
Want something new, maybe somebody who actually know Chinese can read some of the top articles in today's Sina Blog and the thousands of comments on these articles and tell us what they have read.
Searching names of activists and returning no result. Is that news either? Maybe someone can try these other queries to see what results are.
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We demand the RIGHT to read something new!
Why is this news to our we-know-it-all readers?
Want something new, maybe somebody who actually know Chinese can read some of the top articles in today's Sina Blog and the thousands of comments on these articles and tell us what they have read.
Searching names of activists and returning no result. Is that news either? Maybe someone can try these other queries to see what results are.
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We demand the RIGHT to read something new!
Why is this news to our we-know-it-all readers?
Want something new, maybe somebody who actually know Chinese can read some of the top articles in today's Sina Blog and the thousands of comments on these articles and tell us what they have read.
Searching names of activists and returning no result. Is that news either? Maybe someone can try these other queries to see what results are.
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replica coach
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Re:Get over itWell... that's nothing. The actual name of the president Hu Jintao is blocked and the word Communist Party is also blocked. (of course, these names are not illegal but it would be a lot of trouble for the operators to filter them, so the site just block as many as possible thinking nobody would say anything good about them any way.)
On the other hand, I just opened up sina microblog and see the word Egypt in Chinese and news of protest
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Re:Get over itWell... that's nothing. The actual name of the president Hu Jintao is blocked and the word Communist Party is also blocked. (of course, these names are not illegal but it would be a lot of trouble for the operators to filter them, so the site just block as many as possible thinking nobody would say anything good about them any way.)
On the other hand, I just opened up sina microblog and see the word Egypt in Chinese and news of protest
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Re:Get over itWell... that's nothing. The actual name of the president Hu Jintao is blocked and the word Communist Party is also blocked. (of course, these names are not illegal but it would be a lot of trouble for the operators to filter them, so the site just block as many as possible thinking nobody would say anything good about them any way.)
On the other hand, I just opened up sina microblog and see the word Egypt in Chinese and news of protest
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Re:Original article???
The article can be found (in Chinese) here http://news.sina.com.cn/m/2010-10-08/092021231740.shtml, which directly attributes to People's Daily at the top, with the link to original, (but which need paid subscription to read) http://paper.people.com.cn/rmrb/html/2010-10/08/nw.D110000renmrb_20101008_2-23.htm?div=-1 This is the top result when searching for People's Daily (in Chinese) + "ipad" from Baidu.
Searching for the same thing in Google gives you Xinhuanet http://big5.xinhuanet.com/gate/big5/news.xinhuanet.com/internet/2010-10/08/c_12637650.htm in the 4th link. While the top 2 results are iTunes link to People's Daily app.
The 5th paragraph is the portion quoted in the article, running it through Google translate give you this:
On the price, "Apple" thing is not cheap, and some even more expensive, but also a lot of inconvenience. For example, can not install pirated software, download music, movies, to pay, and so on. However, when these new gadgets become fashionable to beyond the "useful or useless," and the limitations of cheap, consumers can not help but get your wallet out.
BUT, the article's is misrepresenting the piece. The subject of the FA is roughly "People use iPad just because of chasing fashion", which, surprise(!) is what most
/.ers here think. The disadvantages listed above actually made sense when you consider the alternatives available in China, where people routinely copies software, music and movies. Why would you buy a machine that restricts what you do most often, if not for chasing fashion?Please mod this article -1 Flamebait.
Now, please mod me +5 Informative. Thanks.
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Mods, +1 parent
After sifting through the anal discharge that people call comments to this story, here's one that is actually worthwhile. I really wish people wouldn't post these stories, because the typical
/.er--while knowing a good bit about technology--is ignorant in topics of Asian politics/culture and just spews trash they think is somehow relevant and/or funny. Because of this, I'm grateful for the refreshing comment that shows a deeper understanding. If only I had a few more mod points...In addition to what Tweenk said, when something the Chinese gov't dislikes becomes popular, China generates their own homegrown option very rapidly. Since they block social networking sites and blogs, they offer things like RenRen Wang ("People-People-Net"; formerly known as XiaoNei, or "Within Campus"), YouKu ("Exceptionally Cool", video posting site), QQ zones (Tencent QQ being the most popular instant messaging platform in China, and zones host blogs and pictures), and Sina Blogs.
To reiterate: these are all built inside the country specifically so that China can control them. Access to the popular global networking sites like Facebook and Twitter are blocked. (Which, by the way, Western media seems blind to that and continually cites Chinese twitterers as the voice of the common Chinese person. This clearly isn't true, as the common Chinese citizen either doesn't know or doesn't care about the Great Firewall. The ones we see on twitter are the ones who are willing to risk everything to bypass the Firewall and are somewhat radical)
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Re:Holy crap!
The picture used in the AP news are traffic jam from an unrelated area. I call this good journalism. Following are some news from the real traffic jam, so you can get the real picture.
A, B, C, D, E, F, GBlah, so it's mainly a truck jam?
We have comparable truck jams which last for weeks here almost every year lately.
Here being Finland, jams being trucks trying to get through Russian border.
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Re:Holy crap!
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Tenth suicide happened 1 day ago...
http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2010-05-22/043017547713s.shtml Chinese media called it the "Xth jumping", since all suicide were jumping and the x goes all the way from 2 to 10.. and counting
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This story is published in china already
See this (in Chinese). The article mentioned the full story include Google's decision to stop censoring and anticipating consequence, except the menting of the gmail accounts belong to human rights activitist.
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Re:Software Engineering is trying
.. to become a rigorous engineering discipline. It's not quite there yet. I am not convinced that it ever will be. Writing software is a creative process, arguably even an artistic one. Well understood rules can be followed, provably correct algorithms applied, formal design methods used, but it is still a human creative process, and as such, I suspect inherently non-rigorous.
Computer Science compared to Software Engineering?
Think aeronautics. The science of aeronautics ponders the laws of aerodynamics and the laws of flight.
Engineering aeronautics is all about building the damn aircraft.http://blog.soufun.com/blogweb/blog_manage/gratulate.aspx/userid=23799432
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Re:Skids greased?
Yes, the investigation itself has been become suspicious widely by Chinese netizens. (Links in Chinese.)
The report of the investigation does honestly say that the police still not allowing them to see any real evidence or witness.
On the plus side, the case has been widely discussed in China's internet.
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Re:Skids greased?
Yes, the investigation itself has been become suspicious widely by Chinese netizens. (Links in Chinese.)
The report of the investigation does honestly say that the police still not allowing them to see any real evidence or witness.
On the plus side, the case has been widely discussed in China's internet.
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Re:An IT analogy
Talking about problems will get you fired, beaten up, locked up or even killed.
I had lived in China for years and managed a group of software developers. While I agree that they are less inclined to point out problem. That's more like a cultural / educational thing. (Even if I put up awards for filing bugs, they rarely did.) But "Talking problem
... get you ... killed." I found that exaggerated too much. I've yet to read of anyone get killed speaking out problems in a *factory*. Did you actually know of an example? Or you just make it up?And outside of works, Chinese make a lot of complains from the cost of healthcare to the lack of
... democracy ... (though they don't really demand it desparately.) There are plenty of criticism against the government in the Internet too, just ask the 91589 people complaining about the lack of train tickets in one website.You are either not living in China or you have a wrong perception of what happen around you.
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Or maybe you have no real ability to question?
After 5 years of biased coverage over China, you have no real ability to question the media. (And definitely, no ability to read Chinese; otherwise, you can read these 1,873,610+ comments related to the stock tumbling of the last two days, even though government shouldn't really be blamed for it at all.)
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Re:Firewall tech
US is doing the same practice to block "sensitive" web pages hosted in China. It is very easy to do a test. Visit this page http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_51c217af01009kyi.html. You might be able to see the page for the first time. Try refresh this page you will get something like "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." But if you visit another blog hosted by the same server, for example http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4888bc2f0100ados.html, everything is fine. An other experience I had was like this. I listened a online radio which sort of criticizing the Bush administration. After two or three times, my internet was totally blocked. I could not visit any website until I changed my MAC address and got a new IP address. By the way I'm a IT professional, so I know what I'm talking about.
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Re:Firewall tech
US is doing the same practice to block "sensitive" web pages hosted in China. It is very easy to do a test. Visit this page http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_51c217af01009kyi.html. You might be able to see the page for the first time. Try refresh this page you will get something like "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." But if you visit another blog hosted by the same server, for example http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4888bc2f0100ados.html, everything is fine. An other experience I had was like this. I listened a online radio which sort of criticizing the Bush administration. After two or three times, my internet was totally blocked. I could not visit any website until I changed my MAC address and got a new IP address. By the way I'm a IT professional, so I know what I'm talking about.
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A better article
This link has more info: http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2008-03-25/21362099485.shtml
Google licensed PRC geographic data from Beijing United Map Technology Limited (just a guess translation) who has a electronic map service license from the National Survey Department (apparently the prime driver for the regulatory initiative). The reporter speculates that the regulatory initiave may be related to the competition between Beijing United Map Technology with its duopoly competitior, Beijing Map Advanced Technology.
The official reasons given by the Deputy Director of the National Survey Department are:
1. Inaccurate boundaries show parts of PRC as soil of other nations
2. Omission of south sea islands (disputed islands with Japan)
3. Omission of Taiwan or labeling of Taiwan as independent
4. Inaccurate boundaries between administrative regions and dissemination of important geographical data
5. Annotation of sensitive, nonpublic, or national security information on the map.
(Think of Dick Cheney's house...)
Part of Google's objection is that there are no clear laws pertaining to online maps in PRC. Thus the regulators are not acting on a solid foundation. There remains wide spread confuson on what exactly is required by these regulations.
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Re:Just more corporate pandering...
For God's sake! This trite is *not* insightful. To make such patently absurd arguments about the problems of the 2 party American political system and then compare them to a system like the Chinese is irresponsible and without merit. No one doubts that there are issues in American politics, but it's a hell of a lot better than any communist system.
It is ridiculous to claim that China is Communist; today's China is Communist only in the name of its ruling party. China is a capitalist country; you mustn't confuse Communist with Authoritarian, which China indeed is. And I did not say that the Chinese political system is better or as good at working for the public good as the American system, I said that there are different levels of democracy, with the Swiss style of direct democracy at one end, and absolute dictatorships at the other end. China is closer to the latter end than America is, but it is far better than old European monarchies.
Your arguments about emissions or environmental pollution are drivel too. The Chinese don't give a lick about people or the environment, they care about propaganda and misleading sorry saps like you into believing that their elitist leaders give a shit.
What do you have to back this up with? Nothing. You are pulling arguments out of thin air. It is true that it's fairly recent that it's become a big issue in China, and results are still a ways away, but what has the Bush administration done for the government? Article in Chinese
I'll throw out a couple of examples besides the Chinese government's assault on freedom of thought and academic discourse. How about the numerous kids' toys that were sold here in the US, made in China, that have had various toxins and drugs in them? How about the Pet food tainted with rat poison because of their protein doping process? My cat nearly died as a result of that.
When 80% of your country's toys are made in China, and there turns out to be something wrong with a toy, chances are it's made in China. In fact, only 72% of toy recalls seem to be of products from China, so Chinese-produced toys must be safer than those from other countries! The same thing goes for pet food and everything else; pretty much everything you own is made there, so when there's a problem with something you own it's going to be something made in China.
That government didn't give a rat's ass about hurting anyone because it might cut into their profits!
Like Bush refusing to sign the Kyoto protocol because it would hurt profits?
How about the fact that Chinese don't own cars as much because they can't afford them?
Where does this come from? This is a ridiculous statement. More and more Chinese are buying cars, and it's a big problem. 1000 to 1200 cars are added to the streets in Beijing every day, but at least each car pollutes less than an American car does.
I haven't talked to one Chinese immigrant that ever wants to go back there. I don't care if you're out there or not, you didn't grow up there, obviously. Do you honestly believe their technology is so superior to the US that the US can't hope to meet their emissions standards? Or the US is so evil and greedy that they just don't want to? I've got news for you. Any democracy is going to do a hell of a lot more for the environment then your communist friends because they are richer and have more resources to do so. Democracies, or Representative Republics like the US, while not perfect, are always going to be more collectively in line with the greater good. If you don't believe that, then I suggest you stay
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Re:Hackers or government?
That could be the case for the Chinese people, but conversely, after years of hearing anti-China media coverage, it is hard for you to make a distinctions between myths announced by the Tibetan movements and facts in Tibet, between past and present, between Tibetans in exile, Tibetans supported by political influences/CIA, and Tibetans in Tibet.
It is wording like the summary and your comment that angers Chinese people who take actions on themselves. In fact, from the events in the past few years, like the bombing of Chinese embassy in Kosvo in 2000, Chinese fighter jet's collision with the US spy plane in 2001, and the anti-Japanese protests in 2004, it was the Chinese government who was afraid of overrun patriotism. Just yesterday, the Chinese government mouth piece published a statement asking for calm and ration in patriotic actions, like what they did after the earlier mentioned events. You could say the Chinese government is freaking about destabilized society, whether that is caused by Tibet, Falun Gong or patriotism. Blaming every anti-West protest as government sponsored is exactly what humiliate those who are patriotic.
In general I feel that whenever 'weapons' (DoS attacks, censorship, physical force) are used to end a discussion, it means that party has run out of reasonable arguments (and in a way, admits moral defeat). Are you referring to the physical attacks to the Olympic torch relay by the pro-Tibetan? -
Chinese anti-CNN site
http://bbs.sina.com.cn/zt/w/08/attackcnn/index.shtml The banner at the top says: "Rise up! Resist the demonization of the Tibet incident! Chinese netizens, open fire on CNN and other western media!"
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Maybe you should go to China and learn Chinese
I will suggest you to do two things: (1) get a travel visa to China, go to a large city like Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and visit some English corners (if you don't know where to find one, try google; (2) start learning written Chinese and visit the discussion forums of Chinese news website like sina.com for sometimes, especially for discussions about corruption cases, housing prices, or even news when the stock market heads down.
(1) will show you who and how many people are fluent in English; (2) will show you if people there know about "democracy", "freedom" and "equality" and if people can criticize the government or not. don't take my words here. go try the above two things. Of course, you can also choose just to listen the mainstream opinions you have heard from CNN and Slashdot -- that's your right as well.
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Re:Maybe more to the story
http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2007-04-08/18351454194.
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There you go, and as other posters have noted on here, things appear to be rectified in the latest beta release (1.0.17.0). -
Re:evidences ARE clear
There ARE numerous evidences that showed the Google Pinyin IME input method (a.k.a. Google Pinyin) indeed copied the data libriary of Sogou Pinyin IME input method's (a.k.a Sogou Pinyin). Developers of the Sogou pinyin created some easter eggs in their products (e.g. all the names of the Sogou develpement team members, a few spelling typos), Programmers of Google China copied all these easter eggs and typos verbatium to their Google Pinyin product verbatim.
Sohu.com (NASDAQ: SOHU), the owner of the Sogou Pinyin, accused Google China's plagiarism behavior in their official announcement today (in Chinese), asking Google to stop the copyright infrigment, apologize in public media to SOHU.
http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2007-04-08/17041454175.s html
The PR officer of Google China (NASDAQ: GOOG) also released an official response a few hours later today (in Chinese).
http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2007-04-08/18351454194.s html
Google China's official response acknowledged that "the Google Pinyin IME Input method included some data not created by Google itself, and those data have been removed in the latest update". Google China's offical announcement still didn't acknowledge the original data creator, didn't appologize for their copyright infrigement either. Accodring to SOHU, there are still undisclosed "easter eggs" created by Sogou Pinyin programmers even in the latest update of Google Pinyin.
FYI: Here are the screen shots of a few easter eggs and typos in Sogou Pinyin, which are found in Google Pinyin verbatium.
http://www.donews.com/Content/200704/69ce12fbc8264 b76b78f44791dad8379.shtm
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Re:evidences ARE clear
There ARE numerous evidences that showed the Google Pinyin IME input method (a.k.a. Google Pinyin) indeed copied the data libriary of Sogou Pinyin IME input method's (a.k.a Sogou Pinyin). Developers of the Sogou pinyin created some easter eggs in their products (e.g. all the names of the Sogou develpement team members, a few spelling typos), Programmers of Google China copied all these easter eggs and typos verbatium to their Google Pinyin product verbatim.
Sohu.com (NASDAQ: SOHU), the owner of the Sogou Pinyin, accused Google China's plagiarism behavior in their official announcement today (in Chinese), asking Google to stop the copyright infrigment, apologize in public media to SOHU.
http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2007-04-08/17041454175.s html
The PR officer of Google China (NASDAQ: GOOG) also released an official response a few hours later today (in Chinese).
http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2007-04-08/18351454194.s html
Google China's official response acknowledged that "the Google Pinyin IME Input method included some data not created by Google itself, and those data have been removed in the latest update". Google China's offical announcement still didn't acknowledge the original data creator, didn't appologize for their copyright infrigement either. Accodring to SOHU, there are still undisclosed "easter eggs" created by Sogou Pinyin programmers even in the latest update of Google Pinyin.
FYI: Here are the screen shots of a few easter eggs and typos in Sogou Pinyin, which are found in Google Pinyin verbatium.
http://www.donews.com/Content/200704/69ce12fbc8264 b76b78f44791dad8379.shtm
http://www.donews.com/Content/200704/69ce12fbc8264 b76b78f44791dad8379.shtm -
This is big news in China
Unfortunately, since the IME is only used by Chinese speakers, most reports and discussions about this are in Chinese as well. For example, Sina has published an announcement (in Chinese) from Google admitting that they indeed "used data from non-Google sources" during the testing stage.
There were actually much more evidence than the PC World article mentioned, the most convincing being that Google IME included many names of the developers of Sogou IME.
Although according to the other users (I don't use Google Pinyin myself now, or Windows for that matter), the error has been fixed - and those developer names has been removed - in the most recent version of Google IME (1.0.17.0).
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The true cause of this hypeI cannot find any corresponding English version of this sina news item:
http://news.sina.com.cn/o/2007-03-22/163311472689
If you find an English version of this news, suggest post it to slashdot.org. Here is my brief summary:s .shtmlNotice on the further regulation of Internet cafe and online games
Announced by the People's Bank of China, Ministry of Public Security, Ministry of Education, Administration of Industry and commerce,
... (totally 14 ministries)- Strictly limiting the amount of released virtual currency within each service/publisher
- Strictly limiting the amount of virtual currency a user can buy
- Virtual currency cannot be used to purchase real-world products
- When converting back to real-world currency, cannot exceed the original purchase price (in the real currency
- Cannot speculate on virtual currency
(Other items in the notice including no new permits for Internet cafe.)
Then as usually happen in China, people will do the opposite of what the government intends to do. There will be black market arise immediately.
also this hype may also be related to recent franzy in the Chinese stock market which are hitting new high every other day (after dropping 9% earlier in March.)
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Useless and unnecessaryWell.... first don't assume that only American companies know how to create Web sites. If Americans don't take that market, fine, there are thousands of similar web sites from e-mail to blogs in China. In fact, many US sites like Yahoo are not popular in China because their front pages do not contain tons of "sexually implicit" materials as you can find in a true Chinese website.
I have been living in China for a few years. While it is absolutely true that the government has restrictions on the cyberspace. The Internet is still the most open place for public opinions. In fact, except a few very sensitive issues like Taiwan or Fa Lun Gong, you can see many criticism of the government or the party; I have read posts that simply refers the party as dictators and the posts were appearing in major sites like Sina.com. Other examples I just read (sorry you need to be able to read Chinese):
http://comment4.news.sina.com.cn/comment/skin/defa ult.html?channel=cj&newsid=31-1-3297449 [sina.com.cn]
http://comment4.news.sina.com.cn/comment/skin/defa ult.html?channel=gn&newsid=1-1-12182898&style=0 [sina.com.cn]
So restricting American companies' conducts in China is both useless and unnecessary. This is advocated by politicians who know not much about China and just try to appeal to the equally mis-informed public.
Aside what do most Chinese people worry about? Politic? Democracy? Freedom? No. They worry about sky-rocketing housing price, education and medical costs, and they worry about jobs. The same things we worry about in America. Things like democracy and freedom of speech do not solve all those problems. Look at Philippine, Mexico, India, ... Are people better off in those countries with elected officials?
As people in China get richer and richer, they will ask for more and more political rights and freedom. That has been the case for last 20 years. Those things will not need to come overnight. What works is a middle-class-driven economy.
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Useless and unnecessaryWell.... first don't assume that only American companies know how to create Web sites. If Americans don't take that market, fine, there are thousands of similar web sites from e-mail to blogs in China. In fact, many US sites like Yahoo are not popular in China because their front pages do not contain tons of "sexually implicit" materials as you can find in a true Chinese website.
I have been living in China for a few years. While it is absolutely true that the government has restrictions on the cyberspace. The Internet is still the most open place for public opinions. In fact, except a few very sensitive issues like Taiwan or Fa Lun Gong, you can see many criticism of the government or the party; I have read posts that simply refers the party as dictators and the posts were appearing in major sites like Sina.com. Other examples I just read (sorry you need to be able to read Chinese):
http://comment4.news.sina.com.cn/comment/skin/defa ult.html?channel=cj&newsid=31-1-3297449 [sina.com.cn]
http://comment4.news.sina.com.cn/comment/skin/defa ult.html?channel=gn&newsid=1-1-12182898&style=0 [sina.com.cn]
So restricting American companies' conducts in China is both useless and unnecessary. This is advocated by politicians who know not much about China and just try to appeal to the equally mis-informed public.
Aside what do most Chinese people worry about? Politic? Democracy? Freedom? No. They worry about sky-rocketing housing price, education and medical costs, and they worry about jobs. The same things we worry about in America. Things like democracy and freedom of speech do not solve all those problems. Look at Philippine, Mexico, India, ... Are people better off in those countries with elected officials?
As people in China get richer and richer, they will ask for more and more political rights and freedom. That has been the case for last 20 years. Those things will not need to come overnight. What works is a middle-class-driven economy.
There is life out side of politics in those countries. -
Have you actually seen many Chinese websites?Well.... first don't assume that only American companies know how to create Web sites. If Americans don't take that market, fine, there are thousands of similar web sites from e-mail to blogs in China. In fact, many US sites like Yahoo are not popular in China because their front pages do not contain tons of "sexually implicit" materials as you can find in a true Chinese website.
I have been living in China for a few years. While it is absolutely true that the government has restrictions on the cyberspace. The Internet is still the most open place for public opinions. In fact, except a few very sensitive issues like Taiwan or Fa Lun Gong, you can see many criticism of the government or the party; I have read posts that simply refers the party as dictators and the posts were appearing in major sites like Sina.com. Other examples I just read (sorry you need to be able to read Chinese):
http://comment4.news.sina.com.cn/comment/skin/def
a ult.html?channel=cj&newsid=31-1-3297449http://comment4.news.sina.com.cn/comment/skin/def
a ult.html?channel=gn&newsid=1-1-12182898&style=0So restricting American companies' conducts in China is both useless and unnecessary. This is advocated by politicians who know not much about China and just try to appeal to the equally mis-informed public.
Aside what do most Chinese people worry about? Politic? Democracy? Freedom? No. They worry about sky-rocketing housing price, education and medical costs, and they worry about jobs. The same things we worry about in America. Things like democracy and freedom of speech do not solve all those problems. Look at Philippine, Mexico, India,
... Are people better off in those countries with elected officials?I think as people in China get richer and richer, they will ask for more and more political rights and freedom. That has been the case for last 20 years. Those things will not need to come overnight. What works is a middle-class-driven economy.
There is life out side of politics in those countries.
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Have you actually seen many Chinese websites?Well.... first don't assume that only American companies know how to create Web sites. If Americans don't take that market, fine, there are thousands of similar web sites from e-mail to blogs in China. In fact, many US sites like Yahoo are not popular in China because their front pages do not contain tons of "sexually implicit" materials as you can find in a true Chinese website.
I have been living in China for a few years. While it is absolutely true that the government has restrictions on the cyberspace. The Internet is still the most open place for public opinions. In fact, except a few very sensitive issues like Taiwan or Fa Lun Gong, you can see many criticism of the government or the party; I have read posts that simply refers the party as dictators and the posts were appearing in major sites like Sina.com. Other examples I just read (sorry you need to be able to read Chinese):
http://comment4.news.sina.com.cn/comment/skin/def
a ult.html?channel=cj&newsid=31-1-3297449http://comment4.news.sina.com.cn/comment/skin/def
a ult.html?channel=gn&newsid=1-1-12182898&style=0So restricting American companies' conducts in China is both useless and unnecessary. This is advocated by politicians who know not much about China and just try to appeal to the equally mis-informed public.
Aside what do most Chinese people worry about? Politic? Democracy? Freedom? No. They worry about sky-rocketing housing price, education and medical costs, and they worry about jobs. The same things we worry about in America. Things like democracy and freedom of speech do not solve all those problems. Look at Philippine, Mexico, India,
... Are people better off in those countries with elected officials?I think as people in China get richer and richer, they will ask for more and more political rights and freedom. That has been the case for last 20 years. Those things will not need to come overnight. What works is a middle-class-driven economy.
There is life out side of politics in those countries.
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